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Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Do you a Elizabeth? Why? How are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm good, I'm good. How are you?

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Speaker 2: How is your heart?

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Speaker 3: My heart is full. How's your heart?

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Speaker 2: It's still kicking. So that's all I ask?

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Speaker 3: Is running in a pumpin?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So I got a question for you other than

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Speaker 2: about our cardiovascular health. Yes, sir, do you know it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I was counting.

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Speaker 3: Well, Actually it's not me. It's McKinley at the Bend

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Speaker 3: Beer Vault.

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Speaker 2: Okay, is this a friend of yours?

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Speaker 3: She's a friend of the show, she emailed us.

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Speaker 2: Oh rude dude.

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Speaker 3: Nice, Yeah, total rude dude. Seems like a really cool person,

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Speaker 3: she said. Love the show. My boyfriend and I have

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Speaker 3: been listening for three years and it's definitely our favorite.

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Speaker 3: We love having you two join along on our road trips.

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Speaker 3: Y'all always bring a smile to our faces. Take care

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Speaker 3: and stay ridiculous. It's McKinley. So McKenley sent us something, huh,

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Speaker 3: and I'm going to tell you it's not a mashup.

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Speaker 2: Yes, McKinley, you rock you and your boy She.

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Speaker 3: Referred to it as a mashup. But it's not a mashup.

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Speaker 3: It's m Kenley is still rock, She's still rockbous.

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Speaker 2: I'm just suspicious of you.

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Speaker 3: You should always be, all right, So this You like milkshakes? Yes,

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Speaker 3: I mean your milkshake brings all the boys to the art.

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Speaker 2: I mean you've tasted it.

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Speaker 3: No, the milkshakes you like them?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: What's your favorite flavor of.

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Speaker 2: Milkshake these days? Yeah, don't laugh, but I'm really into

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Speaker 2: a vanilla.

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Speaker 3: Oh really, I know.

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Speaker 2: It's the flavor nobody nobody respects. Everyone acts like, oh,

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Speaker 2: that's so vanilla. But it's actually a really nice flavor.

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Speaker 2: So I've been really into, like it's not.

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Speaker 3: Just like milk, like plain nothing flavor.

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Speaker 2: Favorite My third favorite, thank you for asking, It would

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Speaker 2: probably be peach. What about you? I like what's your

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Speaker 2: third favorite? What's your second favorite?

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Speaker 3: Chocolate?

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Speaker 2: What's your first favorite?

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Speaker 3: Milcha?

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Speaker 2: Are? Okay?

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Speaker 3: Well when as coffee one doesn't?

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Speaker 2: Right? Right of course? Naturally?

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's what I like. I like what I like.

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Speaker 3: I don't like certain kinds of milkshakes.

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Speaker 2: What kind is that, Elizabeth?

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Speaker 3: That would be the ultimate cheese at milkshake? Cheese it.

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Speaker 3: You didn't partner with anyone. This is cheese It did

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Speaker 3: this to them, damnselves. It's on the recipes on their website.

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Speaker 3: And they have other, like, you know, questionable recipes.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they do.

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Speaker 3: But the ultimate cheese At Milkshake saren. Prepare your taste

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Speaker 3: buds to sip it with this absurdly indulgent milkshake made

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Speaker 3: with your favorite cheesy salty snack vanilla shake. Look you

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Speaker 3: like that? Blended with cheese it crackers and the crushed

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Speaker 3: We'll have them put that on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: I literally shuddered, like my whole body.

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Speaker 3: Jesus in a vanilla of shake is just that I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't like that one bit.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's a Cheddar shake.

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Speaker 3: They have they it's a Cheddar shake, and they have

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Speaker 3: other recipes like the non alcoholic cheese a rita.

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Speaker 2: Wait, why would I want that? Pour in some brandy?

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Speaker 3: I a Seltzer cheese it hot and spicy cracker infused

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Speaker 3: your dance moves. That's what it says. That's not me

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Speaker 3: saying that. That's the cheese It. That's you know, the

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Speaker 3: cheese talking Captain cheese It himself, the founder of cheese

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Speaker 3: It's I'm just scrolling through here, and it's there's a

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Speaker 3: put online. Cheese it's s'mores brownies. Those go with a milkshake.

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Speaker 2: So Rome had bread and circuses. We have cheese hikes.

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Speaker 3: We have cheese it's and milkshakes extra big. Cheese It's

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Speaker 3: moores cookies. Make them extra big because you know you

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Speaker 2: Zaren the test kitchen a cheese It must be a

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Speaker 3: Saron cheese at Lemon Bars. I'll stop, Actually no, I won't.

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Speaker 3: You'll never stop anyway. That's that's cheese at apple Pie.

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Speaker 3: That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: For your restraint, No.

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Speaker 3: I have no you know me, I have zero restraint.

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Speaker 2: I should have been yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So anyway, it's ridiculous, ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Well do you know what else is ridiculous? A lot

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Speaker 2: of things go well, okay, I got a question, another

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Speaker 2: question for you to start it off. Okay, do you

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Speaker 2: remember the Monopoly game from McDonald's. I do, Yeah, did

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Speaker 2: you play it?

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Speaker 2: Well, like the semi regular return of the Nick Rib, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: I got good news for you. McDonald's Monopoly game is back.

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Speaker 3: Baby. It was like in the eighties, right, yeah, eighties, nineties.

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Speaker 3: I remember that as a kid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild because, yeah, as you point out, you

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Speaker 2: remember when you're a kid, if you know what happened

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Speaker 2: back when it was first a popular game to play

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Speaker 2: at the Golden Arches. Huh, it's wild that it's coming back. Really,

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Speaker 2: And if you don't know, well you're in for a treat,

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Speaker 2: because that's what I want to tell you about.

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Speaker 4: I'm about to know today.

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Speaker 5: This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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Speaker 5: hece and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free

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Speaker 5: and one hundred percent ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Ridiculous, Elizabeth, ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Yes, what do you know about the story of lotteries? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Lottery, I don't know. They're old. They're old as heck.

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Speaker 2: They did them in the caves pretty close.

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Speaker 3: But that was to kill a community member.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's like who survives the winter?

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Speaker 3: Well, and that's what is it? The short story of

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Speaker 3: the lottery. Oh, Shirley Jackson, Sure, there you go. There's that.

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Speaker 3: That's a dim, dark lottery.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was gonna say that's not really a fun one,

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Speaker 2: but well, har I'll inform you about the history lottery.

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Speaker 2: Still briefly, one of the first lotteries in history took

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Speaker 2: place in the Han dynasty in ancient China. Okay, so

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Speaker 3: They're like, you know, it's for a good cause, guys,

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Speaker 3: it's for the wall. Like how people are like, it's

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Speaker 3: for the schools, and that's not why you're buying a

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Speaker 2: The next time someone says gambling is a degenerate form

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Speaker 2: like the Great Wall at China, right, because gambling built

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Speaker 2: gambling has been around for a very long time, right,

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Speaker 2: construction of grand endeavors. Of course, this is not always

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Speaker 2: the case. Sometimes lotteries were designed to curry favor, like

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Speaker 2: for instance, in ancient Rome in the time of the Empire,

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Speaker 2: gambling was permitted only during special occasions like the celebrations

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Speaker 2: of Saturnalia, which was not sure if you're familiar, I

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Speaker 2: when the Roman Empire adopted Christianity, they're like, well, it's

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Speaker 2: just slot that right into Saturnalia and keep it balking.

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Speaker 3: Big coincidence, Yeah, birthday.

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Speaker 2: Well that and also the soul and Victis. But I'll

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Speaker 2: Appearance not in this episode? Surprisingly, Yeah, okay, So in

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Speaker 2: O Dominus, Yes, Pope Julius, the first issue a decree

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Speaker 2: It was also intended to combine celebrations. There was the

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Speaker 2: Saturnalia and then also, as they said, the birthday celebration

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyway back to Saturnalia as it plays out,

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Speaker 2: The earliest European lotteries date back to Saturnalia the Roman Empire.

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Speaker 2: So wealthy families they would hold these extravagant dinner parties

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Speaker 2: So Rome was also built on lottery win not in

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Speaker 2: King James of England, King James the First he allowed

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Speaker 2: post James Stower Jamestown's founding, They're like, this is not

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Speaker 2: going well. These rich kids are not doing what we

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Speaker 2: So they do. And so from that very first English

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Speaker 2: settlement aka Jamestown gambling has been part of America's story. Now,

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Speaker 2: this holds true all the way through colonial times. Lotteries

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Speaker 2: were used to raise money to build roads, canals, bridges.

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Speaker 2: You want to build a church, let's hold a lottery.

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Speaker 2: You want a library, Let's hold a lottery. And then

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Speaker 2: the first universities in America, so like the earliest ones,

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Speaker 2: not Harvard, but Princeton and Columbia, were both paid for

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Speaker 2: with money generated from lotteriesday same for the University of Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: So nearly half of the Ivy League was paid for

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Speaker 2: off of gambling profits. That's what I mean by say

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Speaker 2: America has always been cozy with gambling, so you know,

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Speaker 2: enjoy that crypto anyway, When you have so much money

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Speaker 2: generated by a lottery, some folks obviously will do what cheat? Yes,

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Speaker 2: and then fraud follows, which is why in eighteen ninety

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Speaker 2: in the United States, lotteries were officially pretty much banned

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Speaker 2: Other times it's a big cash prize aka gambling. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Do you still have it?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know who else loves sweepstakes? No fast food companies?

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Speaker 2: that's what I want to tell you about. The Great

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Now do you remember the Monopoly game for McDonald's.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever play it? I mean, like we know

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Speaker 3: Because you would get and I feel like you had

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Speaker 3: they was like the monopoly board.

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Speaker 2: Yes. So there was the early forms, yes, and then

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Speaker 3: So you had to have the board so you knew

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Speaker 2: Did you need to win, like say like like three, say,

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Speaker 2: that's all you need, just those two, you would win

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Speaker 3: Right, But like the lesser ones you would collect and

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Speaker 2: Fries, yeah, well exactly you've been like yeah, free happy

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Speaker 2: So this new Monopoly game for McDonald's was announced in

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Speaker 2: Now for the new rebooted version, there are still the

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Speaker 3: Oh to scan the yes, exactly.

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Speaker 2: It kind of ruins some of the fun for me

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Speaker 3: But I saw a Reddit post where someone ordered McDonald's

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Speaker 2: That's amazing.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to collect those little, tiny little things.

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Speaker 2: I loved collecting those. I mean back when cars had ashtrays,

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Speaker 3: It was like we would use it as like, come on,

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Speaker 3: we got Grandma. We're so close, yeah, so close to

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Speaker 2: So back to the new app. You still get the

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Speaker 2: but then you also have to get the McDonald's app, right,

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Speaker 2: I'm never gonna do, so I guess I'm just not

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Speaker 2: Just like with Monopoly, if you collect the properties of

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Speaker 2: do you know, do you remember the first McDonald's Monopoly game?

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Speaker 3: To see? Eighty five?

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Speaker 2: Close? Really good? Eighty seven? Eighty seven April of nineteen

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right?

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Speaker 2: In October, right, you have the Black Monday or Black Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: I totally thought it was earlier than that. That's funny.

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Speaker 3: Nineties? Right?

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Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen?

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Speaker 3: Twenty fourteen? Yeah, I don't really keep up with McDonald

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Speaker 3: I haven't kept up with McDonald since I was a child.

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Speaker 2: I know you haven't. Now you may be thinking that,

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Speaker 2: Great question, Elizabeth, because I'm about to tell you about

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Great question, Elizabeth, And after this break, I will tell

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 2: So McDonald's Monopoly you were telling me about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was telling you all there was Okay, so

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Speaker 3: here's what you need to know. So there was fraud,

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Speaker 3: and it started in two thousand and.

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Speaker 2: One, and I got revealed in two thousand and one,

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Speaker 3: Spoke, it was revealed. You know, I don't know words.

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Speaker 2: So nineteen eighty seven, it starts right now. You want

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Speaker 2: years later. It took two years. Nineteen eighty nine is

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Speaker 3: Only two It only went two beautiful years.

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Speaker 2: Totally before someone's like, I can rig there.

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Speaker 3: I got an idea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so a first little bit about how you could

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Speaker 2: you could win a million dollars. So park Place and

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Speaker 2: Now do you remember how wild it would be when

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Speaker 3: I was firm believer that boardwalk was never printed, you

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Speaker 2: Oh, we printed technically did well. Obviously, the easier path

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Speaker 2: it was to your benefit to go back to McDonald's

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and that's especially with kids.

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Speaker 2: They're the oh yeah, or teenagers who think they can win.

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Speaker 2: This is how monopoly became easily, by far, the most

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Speaker 2: Those are like the two high points, right. It was

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine. Oh no, you may be thinking, well

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Speaker 2: why not, Zaren, great question, Elizabeth. The reason why was

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Speaker 2: eventually the man responsible for defrauding the McDonald's monopoly game,

440
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 2: was wait for it, a former cop.

441
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 3: Okay.

442
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 2: He was born at the end of the Silent Generation,

443
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,919
Speaker 2: nineteen forty three. He was raised in Youngstown, Ohio. Like

444
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,679
Speaker 2: you know that, he enjoyed this all American upbringing. When

445
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 2: he's a teen, his family moves to Miami, Florida. And

446
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 2: then when he's of age, he's ready to leave home

447
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 2: and he goes to join the US Marines. But he

448
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 2: gets kicked out of the core and basic training due

449
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 2: to having high arches.

450
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,360
Speaker 3: All right, crazy, I know.

451
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 2: Right, So my friend got kicked out for having flat feet.

452
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 2: His feet were two flactually they were like convex. They

453
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 2: were like bowed out.

454
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 3: He had like a little rocker. He was like a

455
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 3: rocking horse when he walked down the street, completely he

456
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,160
Speaker 3: stood still, he'd rock.

457
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 2: You followed his footprints down the beach. It looked like

458
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 2: what creature am I following your kid? Yeah? That's wow.

459
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 2: There was no like normal footprint. It was the exact opposite.

460
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 2: It was like the only the art fascinating. Yeah. So

461
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 2: so at this point, right, this guy gets kicked out.

462
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 2: He bounces around for a bit, and then Uncle Jerry

463
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy six, he's he has his dream of

464
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 2: becoming a cop, and that comes to pass. He joins

465
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 2: the Hollywood, Florida Police Department. With Florida is the less

466
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 2: famous Hollywood. Yeah, obviously located between Miami and Fort Lauderdale

467
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 2: right there on like the eastern coast of Florida. Right, Okay, Now,

468
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 2: much like his dream to be a marine, his time

469
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 2: in the Hollywood Police Department didn't last long. Yeah, this

470
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: time it was his wrist. He got into some altercation.

471
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 2: I couldn't find out what it was. He injures his wrist.

472
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 2: He goes out on medical leave. Right, this lasts for

473
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: a long time because in nineteen eighty, still on medical leave,

474
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 2: he collapses from paralysis and he loses feeling in his eyes,

475
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 2: his arms, his legs, and his lungs. He has a

476
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 2: hard time breathing.

477
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 3: Oh, you're kidding me.

478
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 2: He has this rare neurological condition. Right, So, in order

479
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: to take care of her husband, his wife, Marcia, also

480
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 2: a cop, she leaves the force and then, you know,

481
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: since he'll never be a cop again, the department lets

482
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 2: him go. So now they're both former cops.

483
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

484
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: In order to start their new life together, in nineteen

485
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 2: eighty one, Jerry and Marcia moved to Atlanta, Georgia. That's

486
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 2: where Jerry gets this new job as a mechanic. Right.

487
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 3: Wait, but he was like he can't breathe.

488
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 2: Well, he eventually was able to walk again and the

489
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 2: pass rehability. Yeah, it took him a while, but they've

490
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 2: actually he got back on his speech now. Marsha, she

491
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 2: gets the job as a security auditor for this accounting firm, right,

492
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 2: and after she establishes herself at the firm, she finagles

493
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: a job for her husband, Jerry, and she's like, you know,

494
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: he's also a former cup really great guy. Fortunately, working

495
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 2: and living together led to stress in their marriage. Two

496
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 2: years later, they divorce. So Jerry those days at the firm, Yeah,

497
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 2: so he's working private security for a client of this firm,

498
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 2: this place called Dittler Brothers, right, and for them, he's

499
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: working security for their big client, a company called Simon Marketing.

500
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: That's the company that would later have a five hundred

501
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: million dollar client called McDonald's. Yeah, Simon Marketing that they're

502
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 2: responsible for making the Monopoly game pieces for McDonald's new

503
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: promotion Sweake. Jerry gets put in charge of overseeing the

504
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 2: security for the winning game pieces, and he was real diligent.

505
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: He was like super, I'm a marine, I'm a cop, right.

506
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

507
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 2: The former coworker of his recalled that Jerry was suspicious

508
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 2: of anybody who would get near the game piece and

509
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: anybody who's on the floor. He thought anybody could be

510
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: a possible cheater. For instance, according to one former co worker,

511
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 2: Jerry quote inspected worker's shoes to check that they weren't

512
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 2: stealing McDonald's game pieces.

513
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

514
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was officious and real delta.

515
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: He should have been like the cartels and made everyone

516
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 3: work naked.

517
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: There you go, that would have done it. McDonald's loves that.

518
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 2: I bet they.

519
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 3: I think that's you know, it's definitely part of their.

520
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 2: Hr sweatshop rules. Baby bye lo. So the diligence of

521
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: the Jerry impresses Simon Marketing. So in nineteen eighty eight

522
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 2: they hire him away from Dittler Brothers and put him

523
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 2: in charge of the security for all the Monopoly game pieces.

524
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 2: Because now McDonald's like, this is a huge hit. We're

525
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: going to keep doing this. Yeah, Fast Food Giant decides

526
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: they'll run two limited Monopoly games each year. Oh wow, Yeah,

527
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that they're just it.

528
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

529
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 2: So to create the random winning game pieces, Dittler Brothers

530
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: relies on this supercomputer, the Omega three. Right from there,

531
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: the game piece suits, they talk to it, they get

532
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 2: printed by a traditional printing press that runs twenty four

533
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: hours a day. How many Monopoly game pieces were they

534
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: cranking out, great question.

535
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 3: Elizabeth, only in the United States, also Canada.

536
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, five hundred million game pieces, which was enough game

537
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 2: pieces that that's basically two game pieces for every American

538
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: in the US at the time. So Jerry, he's in

539
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: charge of overseeing the creation of everything, including the ultra

540
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 2: rare instant winner game pieces.

541
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

542
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 2: Once created these instant winner game pieces, they would be

543
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: locked away in a vault. Like they took the security

544
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: very seriously. They're talking like they had multiple security apparatus. Namely,

545
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: they had two combination locks, a coded keypad. It was

546
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: like a nuclear sub where you had to turn two

547
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: keys at the same time.

548
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

549
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 2: So when it's time for him to deliver the instant

550
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 2: winner game pieces, Jerry would take like a pair of

551
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 2: scissors and he would cut them out from the printing

552
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: press paper. Then he'd placed the instant winners in an envelope.

553
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: Then he'd seal that envelope with a tamper proof sticker.

554
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: Right then, that's not all then, since he's the one

555
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: who's going to carry this to the places to be

556
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 2: like to the companies that make the cups and the

557
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 2: fries and be a fit. He carries the sealed envelope

558
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: over to the McDonald's factories and then says, okay, you know,

559
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 2: bring me a palette of fries and then he picks one,

560
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 2: puts it on, mixes it all up, and goes, okay,

561
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 2: distribute these no way totally. So to get to these factories,

562
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: he would fly on commercial airlines, first class all the way. Baby.

563
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 2: But he didn't fly alone. He was escorted by a

564
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: second security official and an accountant. Like I said, like

565
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 2: a nuclear submarine. They always got the two keys.

566
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 3: Do you like the suit case, the briefcase with the.

567
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: Handcuffs, Yeah, totally.

568
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 3: I mean I would have requested that just because it

569
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 3: looks so cool.

570
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god, and people know you're important. Yeah. So

571
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 2: the security team Jerry and the other security official goes unnamed,

572
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: would travel to a McDonald's factory where they would then

573
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: have like us, he's had a whole forkload of like

574
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: drink cups or French fried cadamos brought over, and then

575
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: they would select a random cup and then add the

576
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 2: instant winter game piece, both of them watching right. Everything

577
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 2: has to be done in doubles, and then this is

578
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: ensuring that the winner is actually a random customer. So

579
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 2: he does this legitimately a few times in nineteen eighty eight.

580
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: Then in nineteen eighty nine he decides why should he

581
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: send out the instant winners to be randomly found by

582
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: some chinook when he could just as easily pretend to

583
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: affix it to a French fry container and keep it

584
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: for himself. Yeah, and then he could select the winner

585
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 2: of say like a big cash.

586
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: Prize, which would be him.

587
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

588
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: Well no, no, he could.

589
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: That would be too obvious. Yeah, so that's one. I

590
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: keep that in.

591
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 3: Mind a lot of times with all these kind of

592
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 3: sweepstakes and stuff like if you are if you work

593
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 3: in a certain industry or you have Yeah, so he'd

594
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: have to be like outside of the family exactly.

595
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: I thought, you're usually it's the imediate family, but really

596
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: McDonald's is going to be your family. Yeah, and your neighbors,

597
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: your block, you know.

598
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 3: And you've ever made iicon this period in time.

599
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 2: His salary was seventy thousand dollars, which was good.

600
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 3: It's a lot.

601
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: That was good pay. In nineteen eighty eighty eight. That

602
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: would be equivalent to one hundred and ninety one twenty

603
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: five a lot, like, that's good pass that is a lot.

604
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 2: But that's seventy grand. Wasn't much compared to a million dollars.

605
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 3: God, what was a million? What's a million dollars in

606
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: eighty eight worth?

607
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 2: Now, I do not know. I didn't look that up.

608
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 3: Look it up.

609
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry here to live for that. Let me

610
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: look that up for you, Elizabeth, because I know you do.

611
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 3: Look you look helps me get oriented, It helps me

612
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: understand the world, because you know, I'm like, I don't

613
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 3: know what does that mean to me? What's time to

614
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 3: a pick?

615
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 2: That would be two point seven million dollars, Elizabeth.

616
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: That's the only inflation from eighty eight to.

617
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 2: Two point seven four? Is that better? No?

618
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 3: That's it should be like, that's be one hundred and

619
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 3: eighty billion dollars.

620
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 2: Two and seventy percent increase.

621
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 3: That's not enough for me.

622
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: Okay? Well, Jerry at this point, right, he realizes the

623
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 2: only cost to him would be his integrity. So I

624
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 2: got so and I've already you know what, what's that

625
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: to a pig? So he starts out small. He doesn't

626
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: hand out a million dollar Instant Winter right off the bat.

627
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: He doesn't. He's like, that would be too obvious. So

628
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: at first, he starts out with a twenty five thousand

629
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: dollars Instant Winner game piece. He takes one, swipes it,

630
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 2: takes it home. But Jerry, you know, he's like, oh,

631
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: do I give this too? So he's at a family

632
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: function in nineteen eighty nine and he slyly hands over

633
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: to his stepbrother the winning game piece. He's like, he's

634
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: got a different last name. Oh yes, Jerry later said, quote,

635
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if I just wanted to show him

636
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: I could do something, or was bragging or has he

637
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: also put it He may have just wanted to quote

638
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: to see if I could do it.

639
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, just take a test run.

640
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: So then fate with a capital F stepped in. It

641
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: arrived in the form of his butcher. His trusted meat

642
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 2: supplier heard that Jerry was the man who ran security

643
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: for the McDonald's monopoly game, and being an ambitious and

644
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: unscrupulous man, his butcher tells Jerry he sure would like

645
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: to win that McDonald's monopoly game. And Jerry tells him,

646
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: you know, he happened to have the power to make

647
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: that happen, and so he's like, really is solid. But

648
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: he's like, but you know, I couldn't do that because

649
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 2: we're friends and they you know, not only that, were neighbors,

650
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: and so they'll figure it out if you're my friend

651
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: and name the butcher listens to him, he goes, you

652
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: know what, I got an idea. What if it wasn't

653
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: me who won, but instead a trusted friend of mine

654
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: who lives far away. No one would suspect that he

655
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be the million dollar prize. I'm not greedy.

656
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: I like to imagine that He's like an old style

657
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: like cartoon butcher. He's like holding like a string of sausages.

658
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: He's talking a string of sausage. So he's like, well,

659
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: what if it was like a lesser instant winter game piece,

660
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: they probably wouldn't even do investigations into that, Like maybe

661
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: like one of the ten grand game pieces. Yeah, if

662
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: you could arrange that. The butcher tells them, I'd split

663
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: the winnings with you, Jair. He says, I'll give you

664
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: two grand of the winnings.

665
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, because someone's got to pay taxes on it.

666
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: There's that. I don't think they were thinking about the text.

667
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: So at this point they're thinking it's a surefire plan

668
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: and makes some quick cash. Right, So Jerry does it

669
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: and their fraud works perfectly, But then with the capital

670
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: left stepped back in this time, it had nothing to

671
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: do with Jerry directly, but it affected his power to

672
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: pick winners. You can see, Elizabeth. Other folks had the

673
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: same idea. They're like, what have I kept these game pieces?

674
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: So there was this guy who worked for McDonald's who

675
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: was a seventeen year old. Yeah, and he stole about

676
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: three thousand game pieces from like a restaurant. He gets caught,

677
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: he gets arrested, so McDonald's like, oh, we got to

678
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: have to come up with new security protocols. So it

679
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: would take years later for Jerry to have another chance.

680
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety five, he's finally back in a position

681
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: to get his hands on them instant Winter.

682
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 3: Game pill doing the same job.

683
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, still doing the same job. They see Elizabeth.

684
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: The technology McDonald's used had changed. Now the winning game

685
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: pieces were fixed through a new process, and Jerry was

686
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: responsible for delivering the instant Winner game pieces to the

687
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: people who did the affixing. And he decides this is

688
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: his big chance to get paid. Yeah, so if you

689
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: can believe it, Fate with the capital left steps back

690
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: into his life. The maker of the tamper proof stickers

691
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: was located overseas in Hon Kong. By a mistake, one day,

692
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: the company sent a bunch of the tamper proof stickers

693
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: to Jerry directly. So now he's got a way to

694
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: seal the envelope after he opens the envelope, and nobody

695
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: would be the wiser. So he's in this enviable position

696
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: to being the one guy who can decide who could

697
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: win the big cash prizes. Forget you supercomputer. It's all

698
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: about jer Bear. So at this point, remember how he

699
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: traveled with a second security official an accountant, So there's

700
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: this double fail safe, right, so that'd be no cheating.

701
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: Jerry would just have to think of a way to

702
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,719
Speaker 2: get around this one person. That's all he to do.

703
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: And then, you know, or he could cut them in

704
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: on the deal. That would be an ancientous But you

705
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: know what they say about the one fool proof way

706
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: for two people to keep a secret, right is to

707
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: kill one of the other people or kill the other person.

708
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: And since we have a ninety nine percent murder free guarantee,

709
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: I can promise you this Jerry didn't murk anyone good.

710
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: So how does Jerry get around this second security official?

711
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: Really great question, Elizabeth. To answer that, I'd like you

712
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: to close your eyes and I'd like you to picture it.

713
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 2: It's mid morning, and at the moment you are waiting

714
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: for some action, you hear the familiar sound of water

715
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: splashing against a sink basin. This is soon followed by

716
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: the bang of a hand against an oversized metal button,

717
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: which is followed by the hum and below of a

718
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: hand dryer, then the sound of a man's shoes across

719
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: a tiled floor, punctuated by a door opening and then closing,

720
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: and finally silence, and you you go back to waiting.

721
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: A moment later, though, you hear the door open again,

722
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: you eagerly perk up your attention. You hear a man's footsteps,

723
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: the rhythm of dress shoes as they crossed the tile floor,

724
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: and then the squeak of hinges as a partition door

725
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: swings open to a bathroom stall. It's your stall, and

726
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: then you see him, a middle aged man a little heavy, said,

727
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: he looks like a regular business traveler. He closes the

728
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: stall behind him, and you wait, eager to be of

729
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: assistance because you, Elizabeth, are a roll of toilet paper

730
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 2: in an airport men's room. The man takes off his

731
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: blazer hangs it on the hook of the stall door.

732
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: But then he doesn't unzip and drop his slacks and

733
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 2: take a seat on the toilet. No, Instead, you watch

734
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: as he puts on a pair of disposable latex gloves.

735
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: Then he reaches into his vest and he retrieves an envelope.

736
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: That's odd, you think, But it's not drugs or even

737
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: money that he pulls out. Instead, he carefully opens the

738
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: envelope and pulls out what looks to be a small

739
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: printed sticker. You're unsure what you're looking at. He rifles

740
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 2: through the printed squares until he's satisfied. A wide smile

741
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: spreads across his face. One of his latex hands reaches

742
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: into his slacks pocket pulls out a ziplock sandwich bag.

743
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 2: He carefully places the small printed square into the ziplock

744
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: sandwich bag. He seals that and shoves it into a

745
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: pocket of his slacks. Then he reaches into the other

746
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: pocket and pulls out a similar looking printed square and

747
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: places that one in the envelope, taking the place of

748
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: the one he's just taken out. And then you watch it.

749
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: He pulls out from his pants pocket an iridescent metal sticker.

750
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: He holds it in his teeth. That's curious. Then you

751
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 2: watches he reseals the envelope. He uses the metal sticker

752
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: to secure it closed. Ah, it's a security sticker. You

753
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 2: think you're a smart roll at toilet paper. The man

754
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: chuckles to himself proudly, and he says, too easy. Then

755
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: he returns the envelope to his vest pocket. He reaches back,

756
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: grabs his blazer, pulls an arm for a sleeve, and

757
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: then another. He chuckles again to himself, and he says,

758
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 2: a perfect crime. He flushes the toilet as cover, but

759
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: he never touches a square of your soft white toilet paper. Instead,

760
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: he opens a stall door. You just hear him walk off.

761
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 2: The door opens, he doesn't wash his hands, and then

762
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: it closes. You don't know it, but you just watched

763
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: a man steal a million dollars.

764
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

765
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: So there you go, Elizabeth. That's how Jerry worked his scam.

766
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: He used the men's room at the airport. Why because

767
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 2: the second security expert, the accountant, was a woman.

768
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 3: Oh well, even so he could go into the stall

769
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 3: totally total privacy.

770
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: But then he like you would hear maybe the envelope

771
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: when any other guy came in, like, oh bathroom, What

772
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: a good.

773
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 3: Idea, right right, that's amazing.

774
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 2: So now that he has his method all worked out,

775
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: the only other thing he needs to do was to

776
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: salve his soul from what he plans to do with

777
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: these big cash prize winners. Yeah, and also he wanted

778
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: to do some sort of like you know, grand gesture,

779
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: something that might help him out down the line, like

780
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: say that with a judge should he ever get caught

781
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: in the future. Sure, So what did Uncle Jerry do

782
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: to both salve his soul and to look out for

783
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: his future legal defense?

784
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: That's a great question, SARAE.

785
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: Well. On November twelfth, nineteen ninety five, working at these

786
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: Saint Judes Children's Research Hospital in Tennessee, a donation's clerk

787
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: opened an envelope that had a greeting card in it.

788
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: The donation clerk spotted secreted away inside of the greeting

789
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: card a McDonald's Monopoly game piece. It was an instant winner.

790
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: And not just any instant winner, Elizabeth, it was the

791
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: big one, a one million dollar instant winner, that's right.

792
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: And he sent it to Saint Jude's.

793
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

794
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 2: The donation clerk, she can't believe her eyes. Right, she's

795
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: like losing it. And if you can believe it, she

796
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: didn't keep it for herself. She's like recognized this is

797
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: gonna be so much for the kids she works at

798
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 2: Saint Jus, so she hands it over to her boss.

799
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: They're equally flabbergasting. Who on earth would get the million

800
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: dollar instant Winder game piece and then give it away?

801
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 2: They can't believe Saint Jude's incredible luck, the warm hearted

802
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: generosity of this anonymous donor, because there was no note,

803
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: no signature, nothing, just a postmark that later revealed that

804
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: it was sent from Dallas on the day after Thanksgiving.

805
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 2: Inside of the unmarked envelope was just the instant winter ticket.

806
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: That was it. Because The New York Times would later

807
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: report officials from McDonald's flew out to Saint Jude's to

808
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: authenticate the winning game piece, it was confirmed to be legit.

809
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: After that they hold a press conference.

810
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's a great story.

811
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: Right, they loved it. Saint Jude's children to hospital a bunch

812
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 2: officials that you've got Ronald McDonald with his red fright

813
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: wig out there doing like they a pr although.

814
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 3: They're like duking it out the Ronald McDonald house and

815
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: saintscho good point they were handed him.

816
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: They probably do now some they were like happy to

817
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: now some kind heart had donated one of the three

818
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: one million dollar prizes from this semi annual monopoly game.

819
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: Now Saint Jude's would receive annual installments of fifty thousand

820
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: dollars to be paid over twenty years. So while both

821
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: the Saint Jud's McDonald's opted to honor the wishes of

822
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: the anonymous donor. The New York Times is like, no, no, no,

823
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: let's see if we can figure out where this is.

824
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 3: Well, you know, because like they've got to be just

825
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 3: so relieved that it's not some dirt bag who like

826
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 3: smacks his kids on TV and from like hitting it

827
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 3: like just some horrible person.

828
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 2: Keep that thought in mind.

829
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: Oh boy, try try the.

830
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: New York Times might They couldn't figure out who'd given

831
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: away a million dollars. They do a full on investigation.

832
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: They can't find Jerry. Uncle Jerry's secret is safe yea.

833
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: So now he's feeling confident he can get away with

834
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 2: it again. The New York Times couldn't find him. Oh Butler,

835
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: He makes plans to select a new big winner. This

836
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: time it would be someone he knew, and just like

837
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: as Butcher had pitched it to him way back in

838
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 2: the day, he would get a cut of the winnings.

839
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

840
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: So, Elizabeth, let's say you had the power to hand

841
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 2: out big cash prizes, like in the neighborhood of one

842
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of dollars or even a million dollars,

843
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: how would you go about arranging it. Who would you trust? Like,

844
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: who would you even want to help out like that?

845
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: If I'm going to be criminal about it, I don't know.

846
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 3: I don't know. Why would I announce that on this platform?

847
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: You're not going to trap me?

848
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this much. Uncle Jerry goes back

849
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: to his butcher Nicess, So take a little break, and

850
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: after these messages, I'll tell you how it plays out

851
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: for Uncle Jair and his meat supplier. Elizabeth. You're ready

852
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 2: to hear more about Uncle Jair and how it all

853
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: goes down.

854
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 3: I am. He has a very close relationship with his Brodcher.

855
00:39:58,800 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: He does, they were tight.

856
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: No, I don't know my butcher like that. I don't

857
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: have a butcher. But if I did, I wouldn't know him.

858
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 2: Like, oh, you gotta have a guy guy. So Uncle Jerry,

859
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: since it worked so well the first time, right, he

860
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: pitches his butcher on the idea of rigging the game again.

861
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: His butcher, though, he's like, you know you can't win

862
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: it for the same reason as before. You're my friend,

863
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: you're my neighbor, you live down the street from me,

864
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: Like it'll be too obvious, Yeah, but if you can

865
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: find someone you trust, I can make it happen. So

866
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: his butcher's like, yeah, totally, my sister I can trust her.

867
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: She lives in Maryland, that states away. Yeah, So their

868
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 2: plan is simple. The butcher would go visit his sister

869
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: and she would be the one to buy some food

870
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: from McDonald's and then she would say, oh, my goodness.

871
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 3: I won the instant winner game guyes.

872
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: And unlike with Saint Jude's, he didn't, you know, go

873
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,720
Speaker 2: with a million dollar prize. He started small. He offered

874
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: his butcher and the sister a two hundred thousand winning

875
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: game piece. Okay right, and in his for his cut,

876
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: he wanted forty five grand. Not bad, right. The only

877
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: trouble was his butcher went up to Maryland and instead

878
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: of his sister, he claimed he won the two hundred

879
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 2: dollars tramps. Jerry has no idea he's doing this. He

880
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,959
Speaker 2: finds out when he sees his butcher on tight TV

881
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 2: celebrating his big win. Oh no, but worse than that,

882
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: the butcher stiffed Jerry for his cut. He only gave

883
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 2: him four grand instead of forty five. He has, what's

884
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: Jerry gonna do? Yeah, he gotta called cops exactly. So

885
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 2: Jerry learned a hard lesson about crime that day. He

886
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: also learned that he needed someone he could trust if

887
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: he wanted to keep rigging the Big Tunnel's Monopoly game.

888
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: But when you know it, yet again, Fate with a

889
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: capital F steps in. He's in the Atlanta airport and

890
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 2: he meets a man named Gennaro Colombo, who was described

891
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: as looking a lot like my man al Capone and

892
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: had the morality to match. So the two men they

893
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: get to talking. Jerry asked Colombo, Hey, where are you

894
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: flying to? And Gennaro Columbu's like, hey, yeah. He pulls

895
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: out this huge wad of one hundred dollars bills and

896
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: he says, I'm headed to Atlantic City and this gets

897
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: the men talking, like this is my kind of guy.

898
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: So Colombo tells the former cop that he is a

899
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: member of the Colombo crime Family aka one of the

900
00:41:59,200 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: Five Families of.

901
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 3: These things.

902
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm a made man, a real life mobster. Right,

903
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: but he lives in South Carolina.

904
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 3: Okay, so no so, because that's where he ran.

905
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: An underground casino and sports book. He also had a

906
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: strip club like the Bottom Bang Run Sopranos, Right, But

907
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: in the South, things were a little weird, like they

908
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: especially about strip clubs. So when he wanted to expand

909
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: his business into Georgia, Colombo had to find a way

910
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: to get around the laws like the like the zoning.

911
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: So when he opened his strip club in Georgia, he

912
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: called it a church. Yes, he named his new strip

913
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 2: club the Church of the Fuzzy Bunnies.

914
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 3: Stop.

915
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: He told Jerry, you know what I got to He

916
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: came to me. I had this dream and God came

917
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: to me and told me to start a church.

918
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 3: It's called the Church of the Fuzzy Bunny Bunnies.

919
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: So this impresses Jerry. He's like, man, you're a real criminal.

920
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: Oh wait, So Jerry, do you not have any close friends.

921
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: Like You're going up to people in the airport that

922
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 3: you meet who claimed to be mobsters, look like al Capone,

923
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 3: look like a Capone and tell you, hey, nice to

924
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 3: meet you. I'm a mobster.

925
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 2: Well they took a little bit, but they got there. Yeah.

926
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: So he's like, well, this guy, he's like me. He

927
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: likes to get around the rules. He knows how to

928
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: do it. So at some point Jerry tells Colombo but

929
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: he does for a living and naturally a made man

930
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: like Colombo. He sees dollars signed, right, So the two

931
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 2: get to talking more, and then later that year they

932
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: reconnect and Jerry gives Colombo an instant Winter Game piece.

933
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: Not like recently we got the grand Jeep, Grand Cherokee

934
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: Dodge Viper. Yeah. So but once he's confirmed as the

935
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: winner instead of the car, Colombo takes the cash. He's like,

936
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: what's the cash value? So it's Colombo. He becomes Jerry's

937
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: new trusted confidant, right, he's on the inside that he

938
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: becomes such fast friends. He gives Jerry a new nickname, Uncle.

939
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: Jerry becomes totally together. The two then get into work, right,

940
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: they distribute instant Winter game pieces and not more cars.

941
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 2: Now they start going for real money. And so Jerry

942
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: trusts this mobster Colombo to help.

943
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 3: Him find legitimate mobster.

944
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah he is. He is a legitimate member of the

945
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: columb Both. No, but you know he's a South Carolina

946
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 2: He tacked the family, kicked him out in New Jersey.

947
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: Totally kicked him out and sent him to South.

948
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: Carolina totally not too far south because we can't get

949
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 2: into the traffic conti way, you know, exactly you can't

950
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: go all the way to Florida Miami. It's gonna be

951
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: a problem.

952
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: Where you're going to stick out like a sore thumb.

953
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: So South Carolina.

954
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: Exactly, you would think. So one of the winners that

955
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: Colombo picks because he's the one now in charge of

956
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: finding new winners that they can trust, and they both

957
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: now get to take a big cut from him, he's like, oh,

958
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 2: I got the perfect one. My wife's father. So he

959
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: becomes the million dollar winner, right.

960
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 3: So wait, he wins a car in his name, and

961
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 3: then his father in law is going to.

962
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: Be and then it gets better because the next million

963
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 2: dollar winter he picks out is his brother in law.

964
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 3: These are just a brain trusts.

965
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 2: And this time, unlike his butcher, they pay Jerry his cut. Right,

966
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: So this is starts a run of million dollar winners.

967
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 3: So wait, so his brother, his father in law.

968
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 2: All these winners are hand selected by Colombo and his wife, right,

969
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: his wife Robin. Now, in nineteen ninety seven, Jerry meets

970
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: a new potential big winner in an Applebee's in Jacksonville, Florida.

971
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 3: What is wrong with this man? Is he just also?

972
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 3: Is he just chatty?

973
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: Like?

974
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: When's the last time you made a friend in an airport.

975
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 2: Oh, don't ask me these questions. You know, I make

976
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: friends with places.

977
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 3: Nobody.

978
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 2: I told her this, I will talk to an airport.

979
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: I talked to more people in public than I do

980
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 2: like in my private life.

981
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: I I'll chat with people, but I'm not going to

982
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 3: like share my information with them.

983
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: Oh no, people I trustworthy. I don't tell HI much

984
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: about me.

985
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 3: No what I'm saying, I'm not going to make a

986
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 3: friend in an airport. Get out of here. I got

987
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 3: enough friends. I don't need you people. I'm not gonna

988
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: go Well, first of all, I wouldn't go on an

989
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 3: Applebee's if I were in there. I'm not going to

990
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: make friends. To get out of there as fast as

991
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 3: I can.

992
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 2: So Columbo's wife, Robin, introduces Jerry to her friend, a

993
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: woman named Gloria. Now, Jerry asked her, like, how much

994
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: would you pay for an instant winter game piece? She

995
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: says she could get him forty grand in cash. Jerry's

996
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: like deal. So a few weeks later he meets her

997
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: alongside Interstate ninety five. That's the one that runs up

998
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: and down the Eastern seaboard, the Big Dog ninety five. Yes,

999
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: so Gloria hands him forty grand in cash. He hands

1000
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 2: her a tiny bottle I imagine like a liquor bottle,

1001
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: like one of those air like airplane liquor bottles, with

1002
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: a with a winning piece inside. And you have to

1003
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: assume he used gloves to make sure he left a

1004
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: fingerprints on the game piece.

1005
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: Make sure it's fully dry inside, right.

1006
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 2: One of the thing. Now, Gloria drives back to South

1007
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: Carolina to buy a McDonald's meal deal and discover her

1008
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: winning game. Pole on.

1009
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 3: So this is just a rando from Applebee's.

1010
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: No, No, robin is is the Columbo's wife. The new

1011
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: rando is Gloria her friend. He doesn't know.

1012
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,959
Speaker 3: Her, Okay, I get it, okay, right, So.

1013
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: She goes back to South Carolina, buys a McDonald's meal

1014
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: deal and then goes, oh my goodness, look I won.

1015
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: And then she goes to Colombo with He takes her

1016
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: to the fast food spot and then he coaches her

1017
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 2: on how to fake find the instant winners. Okay, look,

1018
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: here's what you want to do, right, And then he

1019
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 2: waits in the car well. She goes in and buys

1020
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 2: her big Mac or whatever. And because she's a terrible liar.

1021
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: Nervous about getting caught, Gloria does what all liars do.

1022
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: She tells this rambling story about how she found the

1023
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 2: winning game piece while she was cleaning out her car.

1024
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: And it was a kind of like a child would tell, right,

1025
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: but it works perfectly, So far, so good.

1026
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 3: All these are collected in South Carolina.

1027
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: For the most part, so or even.

1028
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 3: If McDonald's were so stupid that they just thought, oh,

1029
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: then it makes it makes Jerry look bad like you're

1030
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 3: not mixing these up enough. They're all going for the

1031
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 3: same truck, yeah, to these various restaurants.

1032
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 2: So how long can your luck hold out when your

1033
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 2: partner is a made man from Sicily who's a member

1034
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: of the club with crime family and you're working he's

1035
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 2: working a strip club, underground casinos in his South.

1036
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 3: Carolina everything, his whole existence.

1037
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, not to mention he's the proprietor of the Church

1038
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: of the Fuzzy Bunny, right exactly. Anyway, if you want

1039
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 2: to keep a secret between two people, only way to

1040
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: do that is to kill the other person. Right, But

1041
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: now Uncle Jerry has this growing circle looking huge who

1042
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 2: know about a secret? And the butcher Yeah, and one

1043
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 2: of them is a legitimate made man from the five family.

1044
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, exactly. So at this point the late nineties,

1045
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: Uncle Jerry is minting new millionaires with his stolen game pieces,

1046
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 2: but still no one's the wiser. So what does he do?

1047
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: Of course, he gets sloppy with it. He didn't only

1048
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 2: work with Colombo because he liked to be like the

1049
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 2: fairy godmother of stolen monopoly money. So he decides he'd

1050
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 2: give a step brother another instant.

1051
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 3: Winner game piece out of here, so he didn't win twice.

1052
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 2: Yes, when that works, he gave you the first time,

1053
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: he gives him another, and get this, Jerry goes here broke.

1054
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 2: He gives his brother in law a million dollar instant winner. What, yes,

1055
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: but his brother in law claims he never cashed it in.

1056
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 2: He says he put it in the toilet and flushed it.

1057
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: He's like, he's an idiot. I don't want to get caught.

1058
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah right, that's smart.

1059
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: So Jerry moves on to other family members. He's at

1060
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: a family wedding and he gives his nephew a two

1061
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 2: hundred grand instant winner in exchange for forty five grand

1062
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 2: and so yeah, and then while they're talking about it,

1063
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: a cousin. Hears them talking and he's like, you know,

1064
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 2: I could use an instant win. Your uncle jer Jerry

1065
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 2: hooked him up too.

1066
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 3: So now he's he's.

1067
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: Really pressing his luck. It's nineteen ninety eight. It's only

1068
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 2: a matter of time before Jerry's secret philanthropy for his

1069
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 2: family gets discovered. Plus he's now handing out nearly all

1070
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: of the big cash prize winners. At this point, there

1071
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 2: are no legitimate winners anymore, so to make.

1072
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 3: Everyone else is just looking for fries pretty.

1073
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: Much, Jerry legit. There was no million.

1074
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 3: Dollars large soda.

1075
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all you're getting. Maybe a Dodge Viper.

1076
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 3: If you're lucky, big mac.

1077
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: So Jerry, at this point he does the thing you're

1078
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,240
Speaker 2: not supposed to do. He buys himself a new house

1079
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: for he and his new wife, who, by the way,

1080
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: claims she knew nothing about any of her husband's monopoly fraud.

1081
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: And you know, because you know, I guess she just

1082
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: believed Jerry's family was really lucky at Monopoliesonald's. By this point,

1083
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: Uncle Jerry's tight with the Columbo crime family, right, so

1084
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: tight that they give him a new nickname. They start

1085
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 2: calling him Heraldo Constantino.

1086
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 3: Wait the stop why Italian?

1087
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: He goes from being Jerome Jacobson the Heraldo Constantino. Meanwhile,

1088
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: Jerry's investing his cut from all the fake winners into

1089
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: Lake front Land. He joins this like really hoity toity

1090
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: club for classic car lovers, because you know that's the

1091
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: big deal in the South. There he meets a member

1092
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: of this club. He likes the guys are He's okay,

1093
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 2: you want an instant winter Ka peson.

1094
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 3: He is so desperate for people to like it totally.

1095
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: The guy is like totally, and he uses it to

1096
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: buy an ultimate Beile. I Remember Colombo. The mobster has

1097
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 2: his wife Robin right Yeah, After she found out that

1098
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: Colombo was banging his personal trainer, things grow a little

1099
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: weird between them, but just before she could leave him,

1100
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: they get into a really bad car accident. After weeks

1101
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: in a hospital, the mobster Colombo dies from his injuries.

1102
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 2: After that, Uncle Jerry he now needs a new agent

1103
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 2: to help him find fake winners, so he tries partnering

1104
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 2: with a few other morally compromised men in the southern

1105
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 2: eastern United States. None of them really have it like

1106
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,760
Speaker 2: that mobster. A Lumba right until he meets Andrew Glom.

1107
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 2: G l Omb Glam. He was a professional gambler and

1108
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 2: a former cocaine smuggler.

1109
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 3: Perfect, absolutely perfect? Did he is that? How he met?

1110
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 3: They met like a bus stop and he was like, Hi,

1111
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 3: I'm Andy. I used to smuggle coke? What's your name?

1112
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 2: In eighty three and while he was out on bail,

1113
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: he fled to Europe, stayed there for sixteen months, and

1114
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: then eventually gets caught, sent back to America, does prison,

1115
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 2: does his twelve year stretch inside, and once he gets free,

1116
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: that's when he meets Uncle Jerry at a dinner party

1117
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: in Atlanta.

1118
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 3: Oh my god, who's dinner party?

1119
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: What's that that?

1120
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 3: So that's a good question.

1121
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 2: So Uncle Jerry and Glam they go into business now

1122
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 2: finding new fake winners. Instead of picking trusted confidants the

1123
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: way Colombo had, or picking family members the way Jerry did,

1124
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: Glom picked his former associates in the drug smuggling.

1125
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 3: Business because they want they want to be have the

1126
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 3: spotlight on it.

1127
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 2: You probably imagine how that played out Nald's commercials.

1128
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 3: Oh my god, they're just like rubbing their noses, like

1129
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 3: all of them.

1130
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: We put the next year, in nineteen ninety nine, one

1131
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 2: of McDonald's monopoly million dollars winners was a junior gangster

1132
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 2: who ran a numbers recket out of an Italian restaurant

1133
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. So he was smuggling four hundred pounds of cocaine.

1134
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: So now this is his big comeback. So there he is,

1135
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 2: like the leather jacket, their slick back hair, just total

1136
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: dirt bag in it. So over time, Uncle Jerry gave

1137
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 2: glom eight different million dollar winning game pieces to hand

1138
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 2: out to his dirtbag associates. Eight of them.

1139
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 3: Well, you know, he gets the big thing, and McDonald's

1140
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 3: is like, we're not gonna do when's the press conference.

1141
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 2: He's like, they run national ads and they're like in

1142
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 2: People magazine. It's crazy. So McDonald's has all these goombog

1143
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: gangster it just happened to be really big McDonald's eaters. Meanwhile,

1144
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: Jerry is still handing out lesser prizes to the people

1145
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: in his own life. For instance, his psychic who was

1146
00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 2: also his kind.

1147
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 3: Of wait wait wait wait.

1148
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: No, it's better than that. His psychic was also his chiropractor.

1149
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 3: Stop it, no, you stop this. Are you just pulling

1150
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 3: these out of a bag. Do you have like a

1151
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 3: crown royal bag full of crazy paper with crazy like

1152
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 3: magnetic tiles, refrigerator, psychic chiro.

1153
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 2: He gave a second chiropractor a fifty thousand dollars instant

1154
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 2: winter in exchange for some psychic readings and body alignments. No,

1155
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 2: and get this, Elizabeth. His psychic chiropractor couldn't see that

1156
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: Uncle Jerry's good fortune was about to change.

1157
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 3: Right.

1158
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: I remember how Colombo died from that really bad car accident. Right,

1159
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: that family wasn't convinced that his wife, Robin didn't have

1160
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: something to do with it, because she survived. She's in

1161
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: the car.

1162
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 3: Was it like a Tony and Christopher?

1163
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 2: That's what she was. That's what the family's thinking. So

1164
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: they cut her off. After Colombo passes then, which means

1165
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: she gets, you know, to keep living a good life,

1166
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 2: she has to turn to pulling forgery jobs, credit card fraud,

1167
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: insurance fraud. She's not good at it. She gets caught,

1168
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 2: she goes to prison. Oh well, she's inside. The Columbo

1169
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 2: family takes care of her son, Frankie, who is their grandson. Yeah,

1170
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 2: but when she gets out of prison, she wants her

1171
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 2: son back. And as she put it, Frankie was their

1172
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: first grandson. And you know how Sicilians are, sure we

1173
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: all do. So it's no surprise to me that after

1174
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: Robin tries to cut off contact with the Colombos and

1175
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 2: then they have to take her son, and then she

1176
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 2: gets out of prison and she wants her son back

1177
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: and she tries to cut off contact again. I don't know,

1178
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: they tried to take the grandson away from her, and

1179
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: then she's like trying to fight this. And then suddenly

1180
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 2: somebody anonymously reports to the FBI that Robin's father, her

1181
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: best friend, her cousin had all won the McDonald's monopoly game.

1182
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 2: Sure was a lucky.

1183
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 3: Family af rely very lucky.

1184
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 2: So in March to two thousand, the FBI launches an investigation.

1185
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 2: By this point, there was a new game show on

1186
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 2: TV that also gave that million dollar priz It's called

1187
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? So the FBI named

1188
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 2: their investigation Final.

1189
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 3: Answer Stop itah so good.

1190
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 2: Especially Agent Richard Dent was on the case right working

1191
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 2: with the nationwide team FBI agent's helping him chase down

1192
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 2: every lead and investigating all these million dollar winners dating

1193
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: back all the way through the nineties. Meanwhile, Uncle Jerry

1194
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: still busy minting new millionaires as fast as he can.

1195
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 2: So after a year, flash forward to July of two

1196
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 2: thousand and one, McDonald's informs the FBI that they're about

1197
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 2: to launch the second of their bi annual McDonald's Monopoly games.

1198
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 2: Because they know about the FBI's investigation, they're working with them.

1199
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 2: The folks a corporate They want to cancel the game

1200
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 2: since they know it's rigged, and it's only a matter

1201
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 2: of time before the news comes out and McDonald's gonna

1202
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: have a pr nightmare. But the FBI is like, hey,

1203
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 2: do one more game and we'll bust whoever's behind it soon.

1204
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 2: We prompt it'll all be over. CEO McDonald's has to

1205
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: make up their mind. He's like, let me think it over.

1206
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 2: Eventually he's like, okay, sure, let's let's do it. So

1207
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: the fast food Giant runs the new Monopoly game right

1208
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: before single winner is announced. Uncle Jerry managed it to

1209
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 2: steal both of the million dollar instant Winter games. He

1210
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: hands over one to his partner, the former cocaine smuggler Glom,

1211
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 2: and he gave the other instant winner to a friend

1212
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 2: of who had had some hard times and could really

1213
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: use the money, right, And he's like, so his friend's

1214
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 2: able to get like seventy grand together, and he buys.

1215
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 3: The winning game in the Southeast.

1216
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: Yes. Total. Meanwhile, the FBI is on the case, right,

1217
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 2: So thanks to wiretaps, they're now following Glom, the cocaine smuggler,

1218
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 2: and Uncle Jerry. So the FBI follows Uncle Jerry to

1219
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: a small town called Corbin, Kentucky, where the agents watch

1220
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: him meet up with the new fake winner, this guy

1221
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 2: Dwight Baker. His sister in law had already had a

1222
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 2: five hundred thousand dollars instant winner. So now the FBI

1223
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 2: is watching Baker and Uncle Jerry get this a McDonald's bag,

1224
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 2: nice cute touch inside is the seventy grand. In return,

1225
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 2: Jerry hands him the million dollar winner. So the FBI

1226
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 2: watches it. They're like, okay, good to rights. Yeah, the

1227
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: Baker passes a ticket off to a trusted confidant who

1228
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 2: lives in Texas, right who then you know, they contact

1229
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: McDonald's to inform them of their good luck. Folks from

1230
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 2: McDonald's corporate call the FBI. They're like, and the FBI

1231
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: is like, is the new winner? On Davis from Granbury, Texas.

1232
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 2: They're like, whoa, you guys are good. The McDonald's court

1233
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 2: people are totally impressed. The g men had been clocking

1234
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 2: it all with their wire taps. They'd figured it all out.

1235
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 2: So now they set their trap right. Not only do

1236
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 2: they plan to celebrate the latest million dollar winter, but

1237
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 2: they tell them that we're gonna invite all the previous

1238
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 2: winners to Las Vegas for a winners reunion.

1239
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:22,959
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is so good.

1240
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 2: But the FBI is like, no, no, man, that'll probably

1241
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: tip our hands. They're gonna talk, they're gonna think that

1242
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 2: they know each other too obvious. So instead they focus

1243
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 2: on the new winner that came forward, the one that

1244
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: glom the former cocaine smuggler head selection. So they set

1245
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: up a commercial shoot featuring this latest lucky winner. The

1246
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 2: man's name is Michael Hoover. He's from producer D's home

1247
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 2: state of Rhode Island. So August third, two thousand and one,

1248
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 2: film crew shows up in Westerly, Rhode Island. Right they

1249
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: arrived with one of those giant checks to be featured

1250
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 2: in the commercial. Cameras are rolling. They knock on the

1251
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: door of a town ass the home of the new winner,

1252
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: this fifty six year old bachelor who also happens to

1253
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 2: be a recently bankrupt casino pit boss. The big Lucky

1254
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 2: writer Michael Hoop. The cameras rolling the folks from McDonald's

1255
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: corporate hand Michael the giant check, and they asked him

1256
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 2: to tell us about yours, you know, the stroke of

1257
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 2: luck for you winning the monopoly millions. Right, Hoover tell

1258
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: us some cock of amy story. Once again, another child's

1259
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 2: lie about how he was. You know I was. I

1260
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 2: was sleeping on the beach. Stop No, but I woke up.

1261
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 2: I went down to the water's edge to like, you know,

1262
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 2: wipe the sand from me, and he stooped over and

1263
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 2: my copy of People magazine dropped into the water right

1264
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: there in the Atlantic. Me being an avid read of

1265
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: People Magazine, I went to a grocery store and I

1266
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 2: got myself a fresh copy. So would you know inside

1267
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: of that it's the second copy of People. I find

1268
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 2: the instant win a game piece. What luck? That's his story? What? Yes,

1269
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: it was in.

1270
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 3: A copy of People magazine.

1271
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 2: Because remember it's a sweepstake. So in this case, they

1272
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 2: had put him out because they.

1273
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 3: Had game pieces in the.

1274
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 2: Most recent People.

1275
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 3: Why do we have to hear?

1276
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 2: So the folks from McDonald's corporate, they're trying to keep

1277
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: straight faces as he tells his obvious lie. So is

1278
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: the film crew. It turns out the film crew is

1279
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 2: also undercover FBI agents. It's incredible a week and a

1280
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 2: half later, satisfied that they have great courtroom evidence now,

1281
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: especially because they have this fake commercial filmed and you

1282
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 2: know Jerry's love that that kind of stuff. The sting operation,

1283
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 2: this is great. With the pig check and the People

1284
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: magazine form in the Atlantic to the FBI. They make

1285
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 2: their move. And you know how the FBI they love

1286
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: to show up at your front door for a pre

1287
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 2: dawn raid and catch you sleeping. Well, that's how they

1288
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 2: grabbed Uncle Jerry.

1289
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 3: Knock knock knock.

1290
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: They let him out of his house in his handcuffs

1291
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 2: to embarrass him in front of all his neighbors, right

1292
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 2: and instead, then they go and they arrest the five

1293
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: most recent fraudulent winners. And then also they arrest Jerry's partner,

1294
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 2: the former cocaine smuggler glom All. In all, fifty defendants

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Speaker 2: were arrested as part of this FBI's case fifty. When

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Speaker 2: the news breaks on this Elizabeth, it's huge national news.

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Speaker 2: The Attorney General at the time, John Ashcar and now

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Speaker 2: the news of the FBI bus. He informs the press

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Speaker 2: that those involved in this type of corruption will find

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Speaker 2: out that breaking the law is no game. How long

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Speaker 2: do you think he worked on that line up?

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Speaker 3: A workshop that at home for a very long time.

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Speaker 2: Now, while we're talking about John Ashcroft's abundant creativity, do

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Speaker 2: you remember John Ashcroft's song Let the Eagle Soar?

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Speaker 3: I do? I also remember how the statues of Justice

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01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 3: he didn't like that they were bare breasted in the

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Speaker 3: severed and fabric.

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Speaker 2: Do you know he also had a music group when

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Speaker 2: he was a US senator. I'm no surprise, barbershop quartet.

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Speaker 2: They were called Good Lord the Singing Senators. You want

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Speaker 2: to guess who was in the Singing Senators? It was

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Speaker 2: John Ashcroft. He sang baritone, Larry Craig he sang lead,

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01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 2: Jim Jefferts was the tenor, and Trent Lott sang bass.

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Speaker 3: Wow Wow.

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Speaker 2: They're known for their barbershop quartet redition of the Oakridge

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01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 2: Boys hit song Elvi. They sang it at the Kennedy Center.

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Speaker 2: They also sang it on the Today Shows sickening. The

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Speaker 2: group broke up in two thousand and seven after Senator

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Speaker 2: Larry Craig include contact and solicitation of sex in a

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Speaker 2: Minneapolis airport men's room tapping. Yeah exactly. He was busted

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Speaker 2: by an undercover cop and due to the scandal, he

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Speaker 2: had resigned office.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, remember how Uncle Jerry gave that million dollar ticket

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01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 2: to Saint Jude's Children's Possible and he thought, if I

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01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 2: ever get busted, that will help me out. Yeah, it

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01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 2: did not, Elizabeth. He was looking at forty five years

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Speaker 2: behind bars. If he ever got out of prison, he'd

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Speaker 2: be one hundred and four years old. Right, So in staid,

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01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: he cuts a deal, right, He agrees to plead guilty

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01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,959
Speaker 2: and receives a sentence of fifteen years behind bars. Of course,

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Speaker 2: he loses everything. He loses his home, his like front property,

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01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 2: his classic car collection, he loses it all wall in court,

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Speaker 2: Uncle Jerry confessed it. Over the course of his career

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01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 2: as a Monopoly game fixer, he handed out sixty winning

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01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 2: game pieces worth twenty four million dollars. And that's how

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01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 2: Uncle Jerry aka Heraldo Constantino gets busted for rigging the

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01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: McDonald's monopoly game. And get this. Of the reason why

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01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 2: this story got memory hold and a lot of people

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01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: have never heard of it is that the FBI's court

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01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: case began on September tenth, two thousand and one, you're kidding,

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01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 2: one day before nine to eleven. So the story gets

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01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 2: lost in the news. It pales in comparison to the

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01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: birth of the new post nine world.

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Speaker 3: Keep happening, you keep hearing these things. That's wild.

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01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: I should point out the McDonald's did agree to honor

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Speaker 2: the winning ticket that Uncle Jerry gave to Saint Jude's

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Speaker 2: Children Hospital, so that's good and good and the actually

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Speaker 2: they didn't even really play it up for pr but

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Speaker 2: some people did find out that McDonald it was just

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01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 2: to say it was like a good karma, right yeah.

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01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 2: But still people found out that McDonald's have been running

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01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 2: a rig game, but none of their customers had a

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01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 2: chance of winning for twice a year for at least

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01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 2: six years. That is what's a ridiculous takeaway here.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, if you're gonna crime like I don't know,

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01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 3: you can't. You can't spread it out that wide. And

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01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 3: if you are gonna if you have to spread it,

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01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 3: you can't like you cannot, and don't go to a

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01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 3: psychic Kira, don't go to a chiropractor, but especially his

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01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 3: psychic carap ridiculous tackling.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I think that he should have stayed with

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Speaker 2: the mob and not gone to the B level like

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Speaker 2: cocaine smugglers. I think they're just messy glom Definitely. I

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01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 2: think if you would have stayed with the Colombo crime family,

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01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 2: they either they would have whacked him when it was like, oh,

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01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna run into trouble, this is gonna be bad news,

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01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden Fi is like, oh

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01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 2: her main suspect is gone or you know, I think

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Speaker 2: that you know, that would be where I think he

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01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 2: made his mistake. And also the other one is try

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Speaker 2: to limit who you talk to in airports because you

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01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 2: end up in a scenario. Absolutely, so you in the

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Speaker 2: moved for a talkback. We can watch this all down

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Speaker 2: like a nice tall soda.

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Speaker 3: Um.

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Speaker 2: Yes, PRIs, can you favor us with one? Oh my god,

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01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 2: did you just see the.

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Speaker 3: Helled?

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Speaker 6: Hello Sarn Elizabeth and producer Dee. This is Hannah. I

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Speaker 6: am a new listener, really enjoying the show, and I

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01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 6: just listened to the college Football Pranks episode and that

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01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 6: reminded me. You know what's ridiculous. My grandmother once stole

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01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 6: the Washington State University's mascot, which is a live cougar.

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01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 6: She and her friends drove down from Gonzaga University, picked

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Speaker 6: up the cougar, brought it back with them to Gonzaga,

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01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 6: and once they sobered up, thought better of it and

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Speaker 6: took it back. This is allegedly all true, or so

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01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:34,919
Speaker 6: it says, Grandma.

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Speaker 2: Your grandma Mountain Lion.

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Speaker 3: Aha. That's incredible, amazing, amazing, so good.

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Speaker 2: Props to grandma.

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Speaker 3: Right, that was excellent, Oh my god, thank you for that.

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Speaker 3: Come from a long line of amazing women.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like, well, thank you for listening. Always. You

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Speaker 2: can find us online at Ridiculous Crime on social media,

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Speaker 2: and now we have our Ridiculous Crime Pod on YouTube,

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01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 2: so go check that out. It's they're awesome. It's fun

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Speaker 2: to watch or listen. And also we have our website,

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Speaker 2: Ridiculous Crime dot com. And of course you know we

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Speaker 2: story suggestions and there you go. That's all I got

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Speaker 2: for you. Thanks for listening, and we will catch you

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