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Speaker 1: straight fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight fire for Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: October twelve, And what a doozy of a night. We

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Speaker 1: had not only high drama in baseball all day Monday,

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Speaker 1: lose to Lamar Jackson in overtime. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: this officially ends any and all talk that Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: was a hell of a comeback. I know the Colt

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Speaker 1: end of the game, Marcus Brown, all those props hit. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: Raiders minus seven did not. But um, you know, everything

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Speaker 1: York Times, and it's like, you know, kind of like

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Speaker 1: understand full context because this is one of those weird

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Speaker 1: moments where cancel culture, which is running a muck, is

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Speaker 1: on this John Gruden Raiders email disaster. So I need

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Speaker 1: to make several things clear. I don't want to get

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Speaker 1: all that I need to say upfront. That being said,

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Speaker 1: the New York Times dropped this bomb. The NFL coach

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Speaker 1: John Gruden used misogynistic and homophobic language for years. A

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Speaker 1: review of his email shows he denounced the emergence of

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Speaker 1: tentance of protest during the national anthem hard stop. Okay, yes,

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Speaker 1: all that is factual, but we need to provide context

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Speaker 1: at the top. Why is anybody digging through Jon Gruden's trash? Well,

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Speaker 1: Jon Gruden was buddies with a guy named Bruce Allen.

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Speaker 1: they send emails to one another. John Gruden from his

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Speaker 1: star around personal Jon Gruden around his personal email account,

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Speaker 1: was sending a bunch of stuff to Bruce Allen, who

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Speaker 1: my gosh, how can I do that? Who would do? What?

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Speaker 1: his idiotic twenty year old musings over email. Okay, but

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Speaker 1: it was his personal email account. I feel like that's important.

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Speaker 1: He was employed by ESPN, but it still his personally account.

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Speaker 1: to the surface. Rob again, there a lot here. I am,

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Speaker 1: in no way, shape or form exonerating John Gruden. Do

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Speaker 1: of the Aide Raiders. I love the Raiders and do

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Speaker 1: not want to be a distraction. Thank you to all

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Speaker 1: I never meant to hurt anyone, And I don't know.

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Speaker 1: John Gruden has been a leader of men for many years.

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Speaker 1: He coached in the NFL for a while. I want

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk summed up the Gruden thing this way.

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Speaker 1: on it and you're like, okay, what about this? And

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Speaker 1: it's a tough one. This is Are the emails bad? Yes?

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Speaker 1: They were his personal emails? Well, Jason, if there is

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00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: personal or work, they're still bad. Yes, this is true.

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Speaker 1: Should we now apply that to everyone? And that's kind

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Speaker 1: of where the slippery slope agins. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: think Gruden resigning um is probably best for everyone involved um,

431
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,959
Speaker 1: although you would probably say maybe except the Raiders, right

432
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: because they now have to go to the Denver Broncos

433
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: this week. The line was three and a half when

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Speaker 1: the news popped, it's still three and a half. I

435
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: thought that was light. Imagine it's like at Raiders practice

436
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: this week. You guys have been on teams before the

437
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: head coach gone. Anybody who faces the media this week,

438
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be about the Broncos. It's not gonna

439
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: be about the Bears let down. It's not gonna be

440
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: how two weeks ago you guys were three and oh

441
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Hey, Um, was John Gruden racist? Was

442
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: John Grunen homophobic? What was it like with John Gruden?

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Speaker 1: What do you think that he's got That's all anybody's

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Speaker 1: going to talk about. Kind of difficult to game plan,

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00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: even for a divisional opponent, when that's the storyline for

446
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: the Raiders this entire week. And I will confess I

447
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: went and bet the Broncos three and a half. I

448
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 1: would assume it'll be Bridgewater. Um. I you know, the

449
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: Broncos were had a couple of times on deep passes

450
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: by the Steelers, which scares me because that's how the

451
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: Raiders offense could get on track with rugs deep UH.

452
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: Denver has the linebackers to defend Waller, but they have

453
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Speaker 1: a lot of injuries. They also have this safety too.

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00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: It is at Denver, but they you know, they haven't

455
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: been able to stop the run against their UH ravens

456
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: and then against the Steelers, which is a little troubling.

457
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: I would expect a max effort from Denver this week.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. There's no way I can pick against

459
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: Denver or I can't beat on the Raiders here unless

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00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: even if it's like a Circle the Wagons type game

461
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: where they just get it all to you, let's win

462
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: one for Groo or you one of Like it's gonna

463
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: be awkward you had players defending him all weekend about

464
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: the story that popped, and then Monday night he resigns.

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00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, rob any thoughts quickly on the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: I have one last layer of this. You guys are

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00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: gonna love on the Raiders on the field and how

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Speaker 1: this is going to affect um. I mean, you played

469
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: a lot of high school football. Your coach ever get

470
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: fired mid season or resigned? No, no, no, it never happened.

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Speaker 1: You know it's not gonna help, that's for sure. The problem, though,

472
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: is is whether he's there or not. Their issues were

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00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 1: going to be the same. Like their offensive line sucks.

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Speaker 1: They are recording a Pro Football Focus. They have the

475
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: worst run blocking offensive line in NFL history. They have

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Speaker 1: a bottom five pass blocking offensive line, which I don't

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Speaker 1: even know how that's possible. You would think that a

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Speaker 1: team that was three and oh scoring the way that

479
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: they were scoring, at minimum would be good or average

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00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: and at least one of those two categories. And they

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00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: seem like they were winning in spite of them. So

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00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: if it's it's not good, you know, obviously you don't.

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Speaker 1: You don't want this to happen, But I don't really

484
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: think it's going to affect them this week. You know,

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Speaker 1: on the field. As much as people might think they

486
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: were gonna lose, they're gonna lose either way. I keep

487
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: finding out more interesting and information as I look into

488
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: the the Gruden story. This one just came across. Um.

489
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: I would say my desk, but my phone. So other

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Speaker 1: people on these email exchanges with Gruden and Bruce Allen

491
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Speaker 1: are the Outback Bowl executives, some white dude, a Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay restaurant to and Hooters co founder Ed de Rosti. Um,

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00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I think I've eating a Hooters

494
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: once or twice. The guy who founded Hooters? What kind

495
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: of guy do you think that is? Rob put me

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00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: on the spot? See now that How does it feel

497
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: to be on the spot? This is the tough questions

498
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: you gotta answer. It's one of those. He's a guy

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00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: who stands the news to his friends. I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna get after it and that means over text, and

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00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: that means over email. Um, I don't can you imagine

502
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: what the John Gruden email chains were? Like? I cannot

503
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: imagine opening an email one morning and like John Gruden

504
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: is sending me photos of toplesslier like it's kind of funny, Like,

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00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I would laugh at that. That is funny.

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00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: That's what guys do. They said, dumb pictures. Have you

507
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: seen I Think I Love my wife? Yes, Chris Rock

508
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: amazingly hilarious movie. So his wife suspects that something's go amiss.

509
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: He he he she makes chicken for dinner, and he's trying

510
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: to get out and like hang out with this super

511
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: hot chick and he he says, can a can a

512
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: brother get a taco and storms out of the house

513
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: to go into New York City to hang out. So

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00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: she starts going through his email and obviously there's like

515
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: one picture of like naked Asian woman or something, and

516
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: the mom is so this was She's like or maybe

517
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: it was like topless, but she's like just a topless girl,

518
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: Like this is this is not what. This is not

519
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: what somebody who's cheating on the wife does. This is

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00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 1: like one picture that guys send to one another, you know, Like, again,

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00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: this is not excusing gruten Okay, this is not saying

522
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm a savage who's on the receiving end of asinine

523
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: emails from friends. Well, listen, I have kids now, I'm older.

524
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: When I was younger, was that stuff flying around? Of course,

525
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: the Internet was like new. Like do you when when

526
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: John Ruten's sending those emails do you think he had

527
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Speaker 1: any idea that any of them would ever see the today?

528
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: Of course not. He's like sending it from his hotmail

529
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Speaker 1: account whatever. Just think about what kind of crew you're

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Speaker 1: in when John Gruden sending you know, from his hotmail

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Speaker 1: or whatever it is he's using, and Bruce Allen is

532
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: sending stuff from the at Washington Football team dot com.

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00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: Probably wasn't robbed because there's been nothing on Bruce Allen yet.

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00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure that he just didn't reply, right, He's the

535
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: guy who's like quickly texting, hey, man, keep that off

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Speaker 1: my person. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk

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Speaker 1: about thirty minutes in, and I know I'm trying to

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00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: summarize your whole point just right when who's listening? Are

542
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: you saying that it's possible for someone to say that

543
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 1: John Gruden and the things that he said were terrible

544
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: and repulsive and should not be said in especially in

545
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: while at the same time saying he should not was

546
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: his job over things that he said in a private conversation.

547
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: Is that basically what you're saying. Um, it's it's like mostly,

548
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: But what would it look like in the Raiders facility

549
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: this morning if John Gruden walked in. Remember urban Meyer

550
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: had had trouble relating to the players when he walked

551
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: in after a video surface of him sitting on a

552
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: bar stool and some chick grinding on his leg. In

553
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: my opinion that, by the way, that was in his

554
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: own restaurant, which is kind of freaking laughable. Um. But like,

555
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: I didn't think the urban Meyer video was much, although

556
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: I did. I think I told you guys. I showed

557
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: my wife. I was like, what I get in trouble

558
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: if this for me? She's like, well, I would be

559
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: piss okay, got it? Um, Like, it's just I don't.

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00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: How do you, if you're Gruden, approach an organization when

561
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: you're the face of it and all that ships out there,

562
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: you can't. That's why, Yeah, I think that that probably

563
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: was the move, and that's what and that's what separates

564
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: guys like Gruden and urban Meyer from Robert Kraft getting

565
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: rubb and tugs ye on the day of the c

566
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: in a strip mall massage parlor that may have also

567
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: been a prostitution locale. And Jerry Jones, who has viral

568
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: photographs of him getting oral sex in the bathroom. Really yes?

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00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: Is that? How have I not seen? I have friends

570
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: who have a group chat somewhere, but that's that. That

571
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: shows you that there's levels to this game that you know.

572
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: As powerful as these NFL head coaches and gms, maybe

573
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: they're not the owners. They're not the ones who are

574
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: really calling the shots. If they if they do something stupid,

575
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: they're easily replaceable. But there's only thirty two owners, and

576
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: these guys are a boys club and they're not like

577
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: anything in reality. Everybody thinks that they're so invaluable. Win

578
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: every every MF is replaceable. That's basically the deal. That's

579
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: just how it works. So we'll wrap up with this. Rob.

580
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm of the belief I did the Gambling Show with

581
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: Calherd yesterday. I said, listen, I have this feeling that

582
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: the Giants could could end up mailing it in if

583
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: they get torched by the RAM Sunday and they're double

584
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: digit Dogs. It'll be a shocker of Danny Dimes plays.

585
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: S K one is definitely out. Goladays hurt, could Darius

586
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: Tony's hurt. They could be on the on the losing

587
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: end of a forty to ten game and then it's like, oh,

588
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: we have one win. The coach is probably on his

589
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: way out. The GM is likely toast all right, like

590
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: somebody's getting his job. Like I don't want to be

591
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: mean to Danny Dimes, but the reality is he had

592
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: his chance, he had his coach, and once you're the

593
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: guy who drafted you and the coach who was with you,

594
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: they're all gone. The new guy is gonna want his

595
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: own dude. So you're looking at a massive house cleaning

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00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: in New York. I am of the relief. I think

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00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: Rob probably agrees. The scrudent thing means that there could

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00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: be a new GM unless they let Maya hire the guy. Uh.

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00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: The new coach is probably gonna say, hey, Derek Carr,

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00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: you've had a nice run, and I'm gonna want my

601
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: own guy. What is a better job right now? The

602
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: New York Giants they got some dudes on offense defense,

603
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 1: or the Vegas Raiders who also have some dudes on offense,

604
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: less so than the Giants on defense. But it is

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00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: in Vegas, where it's a lot cheaper to live than

606
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: New York, the media capital of America, and once things

607
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: goes out in New York, they're coming for your scalp

608
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 1: rob which is the better job. Raiders are Giants without

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00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: looking too deeply at their cap situation, which is a

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00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: huge consideration here, I would say to the Raiders, for

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00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: the reasons that you mentioned, you're gonna get a longer leash.

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00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: I feel like in Vegas be because you're gonna be

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00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: having to move on from the stench of the John

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00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: Gruden firing, and the New York media is tough. Man.

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Speaker 1: If you don't do well in New York, you could

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00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: be out in two seasons. Adam Gays did not last

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00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: very long. I would say Vegas. Um. The only reason

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Speaker 1: I'd say New York is on field product. You in

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Speaker 1: the a f C West have to battle Justin Herbert

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00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes for the next decade, and I think

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Speaker 1: the Broncos probably have a better roster than the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: They also do not have a quarterback, and they probably

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Speaker 1: get Aaron Rodgers. M M. That's a bit of a reach,

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00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: but if they do, you don't want that. But justin

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00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: Herbert and Patrick Wilhelms, there's zero chance you're gonna have

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00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the division for the next decade.

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00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: Like none in the NFC East. Dak very very good,

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00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: had an injury, also a little older, I think, and

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Speaker 1: don't know about the Eagles, although right now in one

630
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: of the craziest um situations in the NFC East, Rob

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Speaker 1: if the season ended tomorrow, shocker, it's not the Eagles

632
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: would have three top ten picks. Okay, that's a massive

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Speaker 1: if you need a quarterback Washington, which we're still waiting

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00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: on those emails about the Washington culture. Um, no quarterback

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Speaker 1: in Washington either, And um, who's the other team Washington Giants, Eagles, Cowboys. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 1: I think you've got a better chance on the field thriving.

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Speaker 1: Remember the Dak Prescott money kicks in. I think they

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Speaker 1: have like a one and a half year, what two year?

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Speaker 1: One or two year window to do some damage. You

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Speaker 1: got a chance to be better quicker in the NFC East,

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Speaker 1: But you gotta do with the New York media. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if New York winters or your thing. Um, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's I don't think it's a slam dunk, but there

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Speaker 1: are that it's it's not It's not an easy choice,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure. Yeah, it's Uh, it's like choosing between

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Speaker 1: two bad things, the lesser of two evils, if you

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Speaker 1: really got to break it down. All right, all right,

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Speaker 1: So that does it for Sorry, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: dive deep into the ravens comeback. Well done, lamar awesome. Um.

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Speaker 1: I guess my big picture thing here is if I

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Speaker 1: get fired for stuff I said on today's pod, and

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Speaker 1: hopefully that's not the case. Um, I will definitely not

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Speaker 1: apologize for anything. I will dig my heels in, uh,

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Speaker 1: and I will call in crisis management and ask what

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Speaker 1: do I do so I don't have to resign like

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Speaker 1: John Gruden. Um. But again, it is a fascinating topic.

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Speaker 1: It's super interesting. It's it's weird that like Gruden, resigning

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Speaker 1: is no longer, in my opinion, the most interesting thing here.

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Speaker 1: You've got six d fifty thousand emails investigated over Washington,

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Speaker 1: and there's zero that's turned up on Washington. It just

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Speaker 1: happens that everything centered around personal emails from John Gruden,

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Speaker 1: and now he's been forced to resign. That to me

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Speaker 1: is just unbelievable. Anyways, everybody, have a great, phenomenal Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow