Speaker 1: Are all people equal? Think about it. Think about it
Speaker 1: before you answer are all people equal? Because here's the thing,
Speaker 1: here's a mistake we all make. I make it too.
Speaker 1: We're Americans. Americans do have a unique culture. No matter
Speaker 1: what you've been taught, we have a unique culture. Part
Speaker 1: of that culture is rooted in Judeo Christian values. Do
Speaker 1: you believe what you want? I'm not your pastor or
Speaker 1: your dad, but part of Judeo Christian values is when
Speaker 1: you know God loves everybody the same, right, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean eyes of God and all that, of course,
Speaker 1: But are people equal? Am I equal to you? Are
Speaker 1: you equal to me? No, that's the stupidest thing I've
Speaker 1: ever heard. Everybody's different in societies. Different people have different
Speaker 1: levels of influence on that society. That's just the fact.
Speaker 1: The truth is, I'm not as in charge of policy
Speaker 1: as Joe Biden is. I'm not equal to Joe Biden
Speaker 1: is president of the United States. I do TV and
Speaker 1: radio for a living. Yeah, I have some influence, not
Speaker 1: as much as Joe Biden. You see what I mean.
Speaker 1: People in this society aren't equal, and to think like
Speaker 1: that is stupidity, and it handicaps our side. Are you
Speaker 1: equal to the local police chief as far as what
Speaker 1: laws will be enforced and which ones aren't. Of course
Speaker 1: you're not. No, of course you're not. What am I saying? Well,
Speaker 1: let's pause on that for just one moment. Keep that
Speaker 1: thought in your head while I take a bit of
Speaker 1: a sidetrack and ask you something. Let's say I have kids.
Speaker 1: I do, got two of them, two sons, rotten to
Speaker 1: the core. But I have two sons. Let's say I
Speaker 1: spend eighteen years trying to raise them and be a
Speaker 1: good dad, which I'm not, of course, but trying to
Speaker 1: raise them. Yes, sir, no, ma'am. Here's how you manage
Speaker 1: your money. Here's how you treat women. Here, hold doors
Speaker 1: open for old people. Here's how you drive, Here's how
Speaker 1: you shoot. Here's what if I spent eighteen years raising
Speaker 1: my sons, and I raised them with the values I want.
Speaker 1: And then right across the way there's a village. And
Speaker 1: in this village I know the people there. They hate me,
Speaker 1: They hate my values, they hate everything I stand for.
Speaker 1: They're completely opposite of me in every way, and in fact,
Speaker 1: they want me destroyed. And there's something unique about this village.
Speaker 1: Though I can send them fifty thousand, one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: They're asking for it. They're saying, Jesse, send me one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars and I'll teach your son for four
Speaker 1: or five years. Just send me your son. Should I
Speaker 1: do that? I know you're laughing, rolling your eyes. Now,
Speaker 1: that's the stupidest thing in the world. Then why are
Speaker 1: you sending your kids to you ill? Why are you
Speaker 1: sending your kids to Harvard? Why are you sending your
Speaker 1: kids to school? And I want to ask you this
Speaker 1: because I want you to think about it. You don't
Speaker 1: have to answer, you don't have to email me. You're
Speaker 1: welcome to, but I want you to think about this
Speaker 1: long and hard. If you're still raising your kids little
Speaker 1: Billy gotta go to college, Sarah, make sure you go
Speaker 1: to college. If you're raising your kids with that mentality
Speaker 1: that you have to go to college, I want you
Speaker 1: to stop and ask yourself, why why do you have
Speaker 1: to go to college? Who decided that was a guarantee?
Speaker 1: I know plenty of rich people, plenty of poor people.
Speaker 1: Most of the richest people I know don't have a
Speaker 1: college degree. I know plenty of college people who are idiots. Okay,
Speaker 1: So why, well, that's that's what you have to do. Okay.
Speaker 1: Why this is what we must break in America. We
Speaker 1: must break this tradition. You and I were raised to
Speaker 1: go to college. I was raised the same way. Right,
Speaker 1: gotta go to college. Why have you seen these universities.
Speaker 1: It's like sending your child off to that village to
Speaker 1: be raised and nurtured by people who hate you and
Speaker 1: hate your values and everything you stand for. So again,
Speaker 1: let me ask, why are you sending your kid there? Now,
Speaker 1: back to what I said at the very beginning about
Speaker 1: people being equal. Let's circle back to that real quick
Speaker 1: before I go into all this here. People aren't equal.
Speaker 1: The people who run our cultural institutions. And remember, every culture,
Speaker 1: every nation, whether it be a huge nation, small tribe,
Speaker 1: it rests on institutions. Think about them like foundation pillars.
Speaker 1: That's what they are. It's the foundation of any society,
Speaker 1: and ours has those two. Most cultures share pillars. You
Speaker 1: have media of some kind. I know you hate them.
Speaker 1: I know you're probably vomiting at the mention of their name.
Speaker 1: They're important. That's a cultural pillar. Education system, which we'll
Speaker 1: get to in a moment. That's a cultural pillar entertainment.
Speaker 1: That's a cultural pillar. Politicians are a cultural pillar. Justice
Speaker 1: system a cultural pillar. Are you seeing what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: You have pillars society rests on, and the people who
Speaker 1: usually sit at the top of those pillars, who decide
Speaker 1: the direction, who decide what that pillar's going to look like. Sadly,
Speaker 1: they come from America's elite universities. And this is the
Speaker 1: same in any nation. Germany's elite universities will produce the
Speaker 1: leaders of their cultural institutions. America's the same way, Britain's
Speaker 1: the same way, China's even the same way. That's generally
Speaker 1: how that works. What have I said to you a
Speaker 1: thousand times over it? And I will say it to
Speaker 1: you again right now, and you're probably gonna believe me
Speaker 1: by the time we get done with this great show tonight.
Speaker 1: The greatest thing we could possibly do for the future
Speaker 1: of America would be to take the top ten elite
Speaker 1: American universities, fire everybody on the staff, empty out the buildings,
Speaker 1: raise the buildings to the ground, urinate on the ashes,
Speaker 1: and then build a statue to Karl Marx there so
Speaker 1: everybody knows how evil these institutions are. The truth is
Speaker 1: part of the reason America is in such bad shape.
Speaker 1: As our cultural leaders, our senators, our CEOs, our athletes,
Speaker 1: our actors, our media people. These people mostly come from
Speaker 1: those universities. And what are they learning at these universities?
Speaker 1: What are you spending fifty one hundred thousand dollars a
Speaker 1: year to have little Billy learned once you spend all
Speaker 1: that time raising him. Well, don't don't take it from me,
Speaker 1: Take it from this professor at Yale. Where my blood
Speaker 1: and again of unloading a revolver in from the head
Speaker 1: of any white people that have dined in my way,
Speaker 1: gearing their body and working my blood hand and the
Speaker 1: walk away. Relatively the white people are out of your mind.
Speaker 1: They had been for a long time. That's you. Oh,
Speaker 1: don't think that was a one off, Jesse. You found
Speaker 1: one nut job. There's another one. We're talking about in
Speaker 1: terms of reparations for Ados. We're not talking about a
Speaker 1: one time cash out and move on, because that's the
Speaker 1: way that white supremacy and white supremacy will say, well, hey,
Speaker 1: we gave him some money, it's finished. We're talking about
Speaker 1: a multi generational project to fix a group that America
Speaker 1: as a country decided that it was going to be
Speaker 1: on the bottom, was going to build a country, and
Speaker 1: was going to be the garbage disposal for this country.
Speaker 1: Yale Yale Lecturer. And before I get to this next thing,
Speaker 1: I want you to understand something. I actually had an
Speaker 1: email yesterday. I read it. I read it on my
Speaker 1: radio show, The Jesse Kelly Show, you can hear nationwide.
Speaker 1: But I got an email yesterday from somebody who had
Speaker 1: escaped from Cuba. And one of the best parts about
Speaker 1: doing this TV and radio for a living is the
Speaker 1: people I do get to hear from, the people I
Speaker 1: get to meet out there. This guy just simply said
Speaker 1: to me, he just poured his soul out to me
Speaker 1: in this email, and he said, it's happening here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I escaped here. I'm so happy to be here. It's
Speaker 1: the greatest country in the world, and it's happening here.
Speaker 1: And I'm screaming at them at the top of my lungs,
Speaker 1: trying to get people to realize it's happening here, and
Speaker 1: they're not listening. I'm telling you right now, I have
Speaker 1: had people from China who escaped China, people who've escaped Cuba.
Speaker 1: I've had older folks who've escaped the Soviet Union. I've
Speaker 1: had multiple people reach out to me who've lived under communism,
Speaker 1: lived under Marxism, and they screamed saying, you're teaching your
Speaker 1: kids the stuff we escaped. What are you doing? What
Speaker 1: are you doing? How can you not see it? Listen, Look,
Speaker 1: here's someone who escaped from North Korea. So when I
Speaker 1: was at school, though, you know, I was excited about
Speaker 1: like learning about history, and you know how the people
Speaker 1: thought at them. And one of the orient she was
Speaker 1: asking who loves Jane Austen and who reached this classical books?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I love those books. I just
Speaker 1: thought it was a good thing, right, And then she
Speaker 1: was like, did you know that those writers who had
Speaker 1: like clon in your mindset were racist and biggest throughout
Speaker 1: the books, So they are subconsciously brainwashing you. And that's
Speaker 1: like when I realized, Wow, this is insane, And like
Speaker 1: I literally thought, I thought America was that different, And
Speaker 1: I just saw so much similarity that I saw in
Speaker 1: North Korea, and I started worrying about this country same
Speaker 1: thing I saw in North Korea. So look, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get to a bunch of stuff. We're gonna have the
Speaker 1: most outrageous stories from twenty twenty one. We have great guests,
Speaker 1: we have all these things coming up. But I need
Speaker 1: you to hear me now because this is hard. Because
Speaker 1: what we're talking about, what you and I are talking about,
Speaker 1: tonight's breaking tradition again. I was raised go to college.
Speaker 1: That's what you do after high school. You got to
Speaker 1: go to college. Why are you telling your child then?
Speaker 1: Is it for your child? Is it because of tradition?
Speaker 1: Is it because that's what you did and what your
Speaker 1: parents did or what they told you? Is it? And
Speaker 1: be honest with yourself, not me. You don't have to
Speaker 1: tell me. Is this about them? Or is this about you?
Speaker 1: You see, I don't live work in worship, in political circles.
Speaker 1: I'm in Texas. I'm not in DC in New York.
Speaker 1: I hang around normal people. I prefer to hang around
Speaker 1: normal people. I do same things you do on the weekends.
Speaker 1: I go drink beer, throw horseshoes, grillburger, swim in the pool.
Speaker 1: You know what. I hear a lot from my neighbor friends,
Speaker 1: A lot did did did Did Tim get into Yale? Oh?
Speaker 1: I hope Mark got into Stanford. Well, I don't like
Speaker 1: to brag. But my kid got into Howard. I hear
Speaker 1: a lot of bragging from parents, and you know what
Speaker 1: it tells me, Maybe y'all just got to go to college. Son.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's about you and not about them. That village
Speaker 1: from the very beginning, where they're going to teach your
Speaker 1: child to hate you because they hate you, that's real,
Speaker 1: and the greatest scam American communists have ever pulled off
Speaker 1: is charging upper middle class Republican parents tens of thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars to destroy everything they've spent eight years, eighteen
Speaker 1: years building. I'm not telling you don't go to college.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you better be very very very careful
Speaker 1: if you do. And if you go there, you better
Speaker 1: be going there with a purpose. The days of I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go find myself on college, you might as well
Speaker 1: send your kid to the gorilla enclosure at the zoo.
Speaker 1: All that may have made you uncomfortable, but I'm right.
Speaker 1: We have a great show, great guests tonight, We're going
Speaker 1: to have a blast. We'll be bad every now and
Speaker 1: then you come across an article that horrifies you while
Speaker 1: also entertaining you, and I certainly did joining me. Now's
Speaker 1: Jennifer Cabani. She's the editor with the College Fix, and Jennifer,
Speaker 1: I just have to applaud you on the most outrageous
Speaker 1: stories from the past school year. A couple of these
Speaker 1: stood out to me. I want people to go read
Speaker 1: the article themselves. Probably my favorite is the UCSB teaching
Speaker 1: assistant saying he would assassinate Jesus. That didn't work out
Speaker 1: well last time people try to do that one and
Speaker 1: two the feminist geography professor arguing tall buildings are sexist.
Speaker 1: We'll get back to our Lord and Savior in a moment.
Speaker 1: Why are tall buildings sexists? Well, I guess they're just
Speaker 1: so big and intimidating, you know. Okay, But now, can
Speaker 1: you understand the mind of these feminists anyway? Try to
Speaker 1: psychologize it for me, I've tried to unpack this forever,
Speaker 1: and I know this is a weird question, but I
Speaker 1: can't figure out whether this is a chicken or the
Speaker 1: egg thing. I've never met a feminist in my life
Speaker 1: who was happy. They're all just miserable all the time.
Speaker 1: Did the misery come first and that's what made them feminists?
Speaker 1: Or are they feminists and that's what made them miserable.
Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to say. I think they embrace
Speaker 1: their misery. It's kind of like a little pet that
Speaker 1: they can have fun with and feed and just being
Speaker 1: angry at the world. Maybe they didn't have enough fun
Speaker 1: in high school or college or something. I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: but let me just say, as a conservative woman, I
Speaker 1: like tall buildings. I like big buildings, and I think
Speaker 1: she really missed the mark with that one. All right,
Speaker 1: we also have something from Cornell here exploring whether the
Speaker 1: vast blackness of the cosmos is racist. Would you please
Speaker 1: explain what I just read. Yeah, that's not satire. That
Speaker 1: is a legitimate class at one of our Ivy League
Speaker 1: institutions that is trying to determine if black holes are racist.
Speaker 1: I mean, they are black, and they're sucking up all
Speaker 1: the lights, so I don't think so. But leave it
Speaker 1: to the brilliant minds at Cornell to try to just
Speaker 1: figure that one out. Jennifer, how prevalent is this kind
Speaker 1: of insanity? Because honestly, obviously it's fun to read the
Speaker 1: college bas and think about how crazy these people are.
Speaker 1: But these are our elite universities. And that's really my
Speaker 1: point about tonight's show. I mean the people talking about
Speaker 1: this insanity. There are CEOs in the future, there are
Speaker 1: senators in the future. How prevalent is this thinking on
Speaker 1: these campuses? You know, they take it very seriously on
Speaker 1: college campuses. I mean, we published story after story, day
Speaker 1: after day, week after week, month after month, year after year.
Speaker 1: It never ends. There's never a dull moment. I mean,
Speaker 1: the insanity keeps us in business. So there totally serious.
Speaker 1: They see everything through the lens of race, gender, and sexuality,
Speaker 1: and that's why big buildings are sexist and black holes
Speaker 1: are racist. Do you think they're learning this on the
Speaker 1: college campus or is this just the finishing school. Are
Speaker 1: they walking into college campus already with kind of America's
Speaker 1: sucks attitude? You know, I think they are learning this
Speaker 1: on college campuses because the professors have an agenda, right,
Speaker 1: They don't want to educate and give the kids both sides.
Speaker 1: They give them one set of reading lists, one set
Speaker 1: of instructions. The way they frame their questions, frame their
Speaker 1: tests all indicate that they want the students to come
Speaker 1: out with a leftist mindset. So it's a kind of
Speaker 1: like a training ground for future democratic voters. Okay, help
Speaker 1: me understand the mentality of the modern college student, because
Speaker 1: aren't young people supposed to be rebellious. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're professors are pushing this, but I never agreed with
Speaker 1: anything my professors had to say. I thought they were
Speaker 1: all idiots, and that's fairly normal. At least I thought
Speaker 1: it was for young people, you know, the cool kids.
Speaker 1: The counter revolutionaries are the conservatives now. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: the ones that are fighting the power and speaking the
Speaker 1: truth and standing up to the bullies. So it's actually
Speaker 1: kind of fun and edgy to be a conservative on
Speaker 1: campus nowadays, because if you're part of the left narrative mentality,
Speaker 1: then you are the majority on campus and nobody is
Speaker 1: trying to shut you down, bully you, you know, cyber bully,
Speaker 1: you call you all sorts of names. So the conservative
Speaker 1: kids are the ones, you know, fighting the good fight
Speaker 1: out there and being the edgy, you know, sort of
Speaker 1: radicals that aren't going to take it anymore. Jennifer Cabani,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Absolutely, We've got Charles Love coming up,
Speaker 1: who has the ideal skin like most of you would
Speaker 1: want to have, a like I don't know skin you'd
Speaker 1: want to have or you want to bring home. You know,
Speaker 1: like if you were were pick we were dating someone
Speaker 1: and you brought them home to your parents, and like
Speaker 1: you'd have different conversations about each one of their skin.
Speaker 1: Imagine they were the exact same person, they looked the same,
Speaker 1: but you'd have different conversations about their skin. Who would
Speaker 1: have the ideal skin? And this is not for me,
Speaker 1: not for you, Okay, I mean because I would probably
Speaker 1: give a different ence of than no, no, no, give
Speaker 1: me the average yeah, go ahead, okay. Um. Even there's
Speaker 1: a lot of white racist people. No, no, it's not
Speaker 1: about racism. Even just who has the ideal skin? I
Speaker 1: guess that they would want to have. I would say,
Speaker 1: you this guy, Yeah, why on him? Because I don't
Speaker 1: know generally a lot of like, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: white people, at least in the United States who prefer
Speaker 1: not to be like I guess as pale. These people
Speaker 1: are so weird. That's Penn State University joining me. Now.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite people to talk to about this
Speaker 1: stuff is Charles Love. He is the executive director of
Speaker 1: Seeking Educational Excellence. Charles, on top of all the cultural
Speaker 1: Marxist garbage, which I'm sure we're going to go into
Speaker 1: does that professor not realize how creepy and weird that is?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I haven't seen that video. That is, um,
Speaker 1: that was fun, that was fun to watch, and look,
Speaker 1: I think I speak for most guys anywhere where the
Speaker 1: ideal skin color is whicheveryone is the hottest. But that's
Speaker 1: just me, all right, Charles, your universities out there, they're
Speaker 1: a disaster. I have a up in the show telling
Speaker 1: parents be very careful if you're going to send your
Speaker 1: kids to these places. And in fact, I wouldn't send
Speaker 1: them unless they had something specific they wanted to do,
Speaker 1: like a specific reason to be there. What's the Charles
Speaker 1: love philosophy. I think that's right. I mean, I gotta
Speaker 1: be honest to think about that video. That struck me
Speaker 1: as bad as it was to teach that, and the
Speaker 1: professor we focus on that. I love the response. I
Speaker 1: love how hard it was for her to answer that
Speaker 1: question because you can see the duality, right. You can
Speaker 1: see her saying, well, I know what I preferred. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play like I don't, but I know what I preferred.
Speaker 1: But I can't really say that right because then I'm
Speaker 1: the racist. I hate, so is it the person if
Speaker 1: I'm somebody else or if it's me. You know that
Speaker 1: was even funny. It's just how it proves that it's
Speaker 1: a waste of time. But you're right, it's like a
Speaker 1: cult and you can't really fix it unless the people
Speaker 1: in the could get out of the cold, because the
Speaker 1: could leaders are benefiting from it, right, so they're not
Speaker 1: going to go away. So the child's lover pros will
Speaker 1: be similar to what you said. I think that you
Speaker 1: don't go unless you're studying in the hard sciences. You
Speaker 1: need to transfer if you have to when you get
Speaker 1: that in your classes, and when you leave these universities,
Speaker 1: you need to tell them why you say I'm leaving
Speaker 1: because X. Two other things. You need to push the
Speaker 1: people who shouldn't be going because that's not what they
Speaker 1: want to do, and make it okay and comfortable for
Speaker 1: people not to go if that's not what they want
Speaker 1: to do. And lastly, if you went to these colleges
Speaker 1: five to fifteen years ago and somehow you're successful now,
Speaker 1: don't give them money. You're feeding the beast. Stop giving
Speaker 1: your alumnic money. Charles. Something that I find very odd
Speaker 1: is I think I mean, obviously there's always gonna be
Speaker 1: scumbags like Al Sharpton out there, But so much of
Speaker 1: this garbage is coming from people like that professor. White dudes.
Speaker 1: What does the white dude get out of promoting this weirdness,
Speaker 1: this nonsense. Lots of these people, most of these people,
Speaker 1: I would venture to say, are white. Why what am
Speaker 1: I missing? All Right, there's a formula there. They get something.
Speaker 1: They get the only thing they need. In the age
Speaker 1: of white fredigity and white privilege and whites have everything
Speaker 1: and we poor minorities have nothing. What else could they need? Right?
Speaker 1: It's like the wealthy person, Right, you got the money,
Speaker 1: you get the mansion, you get the cute girl, you
Speaker 1: got the car. What else do I need? Right? So
Speaker 1: the only thing they need is that, you know, superiority,
Speaker 1: feel feeling that they're helping the others and that they're
Speaker 1: doing good and they're special. So what they get from
Speaker 1: it is they get to say, look how good I am.
Speaker 1: I saved the puppy. Look how good I am. I
Speaker 1: won't idea this, which is why it's so hard that
Speaker 1: they don't actually believe it. There're some okay, they're people
Speaker 1: like you mentioned Al Sharper, I always say this, there
Speaker 1: are people out there who are grifters, they're on the grift,
Speaker 1: But I don't think that's the majorities people. And there's
Speaker 1: people out there who are who truly believe it. That's
Speaker 1: the segment. But the vast majority of these so called
Speaker 1: WoT people in the middle, they don't believe it, and
Speaker 1: they're not grifters. They're doing it because of what they
Speaker 1: can get from other people. Do things. You steal because
Speaker 1: you want to get money. They do this because there's
Speaker 1: gonna be something, some pot of gold at the end
Speaker 1: of the rainbow. They do it because people will look
Speaker 1: at them and give them little soft claps like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're a good white person. You're good. What's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It's gonna backfire on them because there will be no
Speaker 1: good white people. You know. You know what it sounds
Speaker 1: like to me, Charles, do you know what this sounds like?
Speaker 1: To me? This sounds like the actor or athlete or whatever.
Speaker 1: And I realize there are a lot of great foundations
Speaker 1: out there, but they start the Jesse Kelly is Awesome
Speaker 1: foundation so they can be pictured giving back just to
Speaker 1: check that final box and be you know, the scene
Speaker 1: is a good person on top of wealthy. That's what
Speaker 1: it sounds like to me, one of those fake charities
Speaker 1: that makes the person who starts it look really good, right.
Speaker 1: It's that it's you know, you use actors as an
Speaker 1: example as a great example. We've been told many, many times,
Speaker 1: you know, from a psychological standpoint that people who come
Speaker 1: in money, lottery winners, athletes, actors, they feel, you know, like, hey,
Speaker 1: I didn't really deserve this. All I did I'm a
Speaker 1: pretty face, or because I can run faster than anybody else,
Speaker 1: I was able to leave other poor people behind and
Speaker 1: become rich. So they kind of feel bad about it,
Speaker 1: and this is their way to make themselves feel better,
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm the rapper, I still you know,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, making it rain in the club and
Speaker 1: I'm buying the most expensive car in the world because
Speaker 1: I can do it. So yeah, I can give a
Speaker 1: little money back and I can, you know, go through
Speaker 1: the motions like I'm doing good. Doesn't matter if it
Speaker 1: actually work, doesn't matter. If it helps. I'm going through themotions,
Speaker 1: I feel better and that's what it matters. Charles. The
Speaker 1: hot topic right now is critical race theory, and obviously
Speaker 1: I know you're not a fan. You know, I'm not
Speaker 1: a fan, but I've been arguing with people or at
Speaker 1: least trying to put the information out there. Yeah, it's good,
Speaker 1: we should oppose it. That's fine. But this is this
Speaker 1: is just a branch of this whole cultural Marxist machine,
Speaker 1: and critical race theory isn't the root. It's just the
Speaker 1: branch of it. All the feminist stuff and the climate
Speaker 1: change stuff and the LGBT, it's all from the same tree.
Speaker 1: It's all the same disgusting, destroy America cultural Marxist tree.
Speaker 1: You can swat away critical race theory, and you should,
Speaker 1: but don't think that's the root. Oh one. And the
Speaker 1: other problem is you know, I'm a solutions guy, so
Speaker 1: I say, it's simple as this. Forget about what name
Speaker 1: they put on it, forget about what now we know
Speaker 1: it's immoral, it's unfair and as racist. That's true. We
Speaker 1: can get into that debate, but the bottom line is
Speaker 1: two things. We need to focus on two things. Why
Speaker 1: do we think they're trying to tear down the country
Speaker 1: and try to be fair as hard as it is? Okay,
Speaker 1: America's bad, that's why they want to destroy it. Fine,
Speaker 1: you're still gonna have people. You're still gonna have people
Speaker 1: with my skin color and your skin color. So we
Speaker 1: teat out American We're gonna build up. You go to them,
Speaker 1: this is what we should do. Go to what are
Speaker 1: your wokest and say America's gone, you have the keys,
Speaker 1: build your own country, make it perfect. Then what will
Speaker 1: they do. They're gonna realize what they're doing won't work.
Speaker 1: So when I have people on on the left and
Speaker 1: people like this, I don't debate about the past of
Speaker 1: American A. I just said, Okay, what do you want
Speaker 1: in your perfect utopia? Are there still black people? Because
Speaker 1: the human nature is still to treat people differently. You
Speaker 1: didn't solve that problem, so you just tore down the
Speaker 1: greatest country in the history of the world to solve
Speaker 1: a problem you haven't solved. So from that standpoint, it
Speaker 1: makes absolutely no sense. Like go back to the colleges.
Speaker 1: The colleges are going through these motions, then we need diversity,
Speaker 1: but whatever. They never say, what's going to happen when
Speaker 1: we raise the percentage of blacks in the school and
Speaker 1: then you talk about who it hurts. I was just
Speaker 1: talking about this on another interview. It hurts the very
Speaker 1: people they claim they want to help because either you know,
Speaker 1: you get a kid from a smart kid. So let's
Speaker 1: not get into the sense where we act like these
Speaker 1: kids are dumb. Above average student. You know, eleven hundred
Speaker 1: fifty on the SAT, a good student. But instead of
Speaker 1: going to Michigan or North Carolina because he's black once
Speaker 1: that's what the white kid would do. Because he's black,
Speaker 1: you send him to Harvard. So now he's not competing
Speaker 1: with the other people who got eleven hundred. He's competing
Speaker 1: with the sixteen hundreds in all the Valley Victorians. So
Speaker 1: when he struggles, he's not going to say, man, I
Speaker 1: came to the wrong school. Let me transfer to North Carolina.
Speaker 1: He's not going to do that. He's going to drop
Speaker 1: out and say I'm dumb. So you didn't help him.
Speaker 1: You made what could have been a college graduate and
Speaker 1: a successful person bitter and drop out, and you created
Speaker 1: You brought blacks in and all you did was create
Speaker 1: a radical. So now he's at all the BLM marches
Speaker 1: because he said, nothing's wrong with me. You know, Harvard
Speaker 1: was racist and they graded in a racist way, and
Speaker 1: that's why I feel, well, you didn't help anybody Charles,
Speaker 1: setting aside the dollards you know, or everybody, every movement
Speaker 1: has dollards who just blind me follow along, setting them aside,
Speaker 1: psychologize for me. The greatest difference between these woke leftists
Speaker 1: and you know, somebody like you, what is the real
Speaker 1: mental makeup difference? Are we talking parenting? Is this a
Speaker 1: belief in God? Is it a view of yourself versus
Speaker 1: the what isn't I wish you with those things as
Speaker 1: complicated as they are, they'd be better. I don't think
Speaker 1: it is. I think is you know, decades of indoctrination,
Speaker 1: so they believe what they what they hear rather than
Speaker 1: what they feel. I mean, think about it. I know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know I know more than you, but
Speaker 1: you probably know some people like this, upper middle class
Speaker 1: blacks who's successful and went to the great schools. They'd
Speaker 1: have great jobs, and they still going around saying the
Speaker 1: countries against them. You asked them, when was the last
Speaker 1: time something happened to them? They can't think of anything
Speaker 1: because they don't realize if they have two houses down
Speaker 1: for me right, they can't hear it, they can't pare
Speaker 1: it back to you. Why because they don't think that deeply.
Speaker 1: But if it comes down to it, it's because the
Speaker 1: movies in the media and TV told them that's what happened.
Speaker 1: If I hear every black man is being shot every day,
Speaker 1: I'm going to believe it. But but if you talk
Speaker 1: about the things that you thought might be the problem,
Speaker 1: they were raised in two parent homes. They have a
Speaker 1: belief in God that you So there are Christians out
Speaker 1: there who say they're following the Bible and they're black
Speaker 1: and they're successful, or they're white and they're Christians and
Speaker 1: they still do this. So it's not the upbringing that's what.
Speaker 1: If it was the kind of things we can train
Speaker 1: that out of them, it's because they're bye. When Lena
Speaker 1: Dunham are Julian More, are these Hollywey elites? Are Lebron James?
Speaker 1: Tell them that When Lebron James says all black people
Speaker 1: being hunted, the black man who believes him, who has
Speaker 1: never felt hunted before, starts to believe it. That's why
Speaker 1: it's so hard to break an We got a mountain
Speaker 1: to climb. Charles, thank you so much for what you do.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Man. Great to be back. Thank you. Look,
Speaker 1: we got a mountain to climb, got a climate. One
Speaker 1: step at a time, we'll be back. We need more lawyers,
Speaker 1: and boy, did I never ever ever think I would
Speaker 1: say those words in my life. But the truth is,
Speaker 1: and all seriousness, the right needs more lawyers. We need
Speaker 1: more legal foundations because so many of these fights are
Speaker 1: taking place in the courts, and we or that part
Speaker 1: of we roll our eyes and we talk about it.
Speaker 1: These guys they need our support. Joining me now is
Speaker 1: Kimberly Herman. She's with the Southeastern Legal Foundation and they're
Speaker 1: out there taking on cases you really really want them
Speaker 1: to win. First of all, Kimberly, describe what you do
Speaker 1: before we get into some of these cases. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: Southeastern Legal Foundation is actually one of the country's oldest
Speaker 1: conservative public interest law firms, and quite frankly, when the
Speaker 1: government infringes on your constitutional rights, we step in pro
Speaker 1: bono and we sue them, and we take cases to
Speaker 1: the r Supreme Court and we win them. Kimberly just
Speaker 1: just want to touch on this one more time here.
Speaker 1: You don't make money because it's pro bono, so you
Speaker 1: rely on the donations of others. I'm assuming how are
Speaker 1: those donations coming in and I'm asking this question for
Speaker 1: a reason because I consistently hear from these groups like
Speaker 1: yours on the right, who do good work, that our
Speaker 1: donors are not like the communists owners pour money into
Speaker 1: theirs and we don't. Yeah, people can donate to us
Speaker 1: on our website, SLF Liberty dot org. We're a five
Speaker 1: O one C three and we appreciate that. All right, Kimberly,
Speaker 1: Now let me ask you what's going on with the
Speaker 1: University of Oklahoma and going after conservative students. I think
Speaker 1: people will be shocked by this because you know, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: You're thinking America's heartland, but apparently not what happened in Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: It actually kind of shocked us too, to be perfectly honest,
Speaker 1: because we thought the same thing. But no college and
Speaker 1: no university right now is immune to the wokeism culture
Speaker 1: that is happening. So several years ago, conservative students at
Speaker 1: Oklahoma started to get harassed. They were spat on as
Speaker 1: they were walking to campus, I mean with airs, they
Speaker 1: were walking to class on their college campus. They were
Speaker 1: trying to be silenced by the other students, and when
Speaker 1: that didn't work, student government went into action, and the
Speaker 1: Student Government Association tried to stop Turning Point USA from
Speaker 1: being able to bring ann Culture onto campus. They went
Speaker 1: to such great lengths as to bring in Antifa and
Speaker 1: to have Antifa ready to come in protests stop the event.
Speaker 1: They were threatening to throw things at Anne Culture. They
Speaker 1: were threatening violence, and fortunately Turning Point is smart and
Speaker 1: they made sure that they had a student on the
Speaker 1: Student Government Association. She saw all of this firsthand. They
Speaker 1: called us, we were able to get involved, called this
Speaker 1: to cool. Administration sent them letters, and the school administration,
Speaker 1: to their credit, came out and said your right. Turning
Speaker 1: Point has every right to be on our campus. We
Speaker 1: are going to protect their free speech. We're going to
Speaker 1: protect the event. And the event ended up going off flawlessly.
Speaker 1: They had a huge turnout for it, and the Student
Speaker 1: Government Association was put in their place as they should be. Okay,
Speaker 1: why do universities think they can get away with these
Speaker 1: kinds of things? Or are they getting away with these
Speaker 1: kinds of things? I guess that's what floors me. You're
Speaker 1: bringing in Antifa, You're bringing in a communist street thug
Speaker 1: group to try to be your armed enforcement arm. You're
Speaker 1: spitting on people. Are they getting away with this? Across
Speaker 1: the country. They have been getting away with it for honestly,
Speaker 1: for ten to fifteen years. We started our one A
Speaker 1: project here at Southeastern Legal Foundation about seven years ago
Speaker 1: specifically to address this problem because we were hearing from
Speaker 1: time and time again from students that they needed legal representation.
Speaker 1: Going to their school administration wasn't enough, and there were
Speaker 1: no students helping them. Conservative students on campus are being
Speaker 1: shut down from their administrators, their faculty, their peers. What
Speaker 1: happened at Oklahoma is actually quite unusual in the fact
Speaker 1: that the administration came to their rescue, if you will,
Speaker 1: and they came out so strongly to say Turning Point
Speaker 1: will not be kicked off of this campus. We have
Speaker 1: other places where we represent students, like East Carolina University
Speaker 1: this past year, and they actually use the COVID restrictions
Speaker 1: to silence conservative students. So what we had there was
Speaker 1: we have a Turning Point chapter that wants to have
Speaker 1: a meeting. They simply want to have six to ten
Speaker 1: students to meet together in a circle outside. They are
Speaker 1: shut down. When down the street we have the vice
Speaker 1: chancellor of the university protesting, there's no other word for it, protesting,
Speaker 1: marching with black Lives Matter unmasked and really promoting students
Speaker 1: to violate COVID restrictions yet using it to silence conservative students. Kimberly,
Speaker 1: on a macro level, are you seeing this is getting
Speaker 1: worse or are we just seeing more of it because
Speaker 1: this is the information age everyone has Twitter and Facebook,
Speaker 1: that we have more information. Is it markedly worse now
Speaker 1: than it was even ten years ago? Oh, we just
Speaker 1: know more. I don't think it's getting any better, right,
Speaker 1: It's definitely not where it was back you know, twenty
Speaker 1: plus years ago when I was on a college campus.
Speaker 1: It's an entirely different world. We train students, we work
Speaker 1: with them, and we get we really get hands on
Speaker 1: with these students in roundtable discussions to work through their policies,
Speaker 1: and each year we expect it to get better. It
Speaker 1: just morphs. So one year it's the administrator silencing them,
Speaker 1: the next year it's the boards of trustee, the next
Speaker 1: year it's the students, and they have all these new
Speaker 1: ways that they can use to silence each other, Like
Speaker 1: you said, Twitter, Facebook. When they're back on campus this fall,
Speaker 1: we are ready to really, I mean step in. We've
Speaker 1: got several lawsuits tied up that will be filing this
Speaker 1: fall because these schools just won't back down. They just
Speaker 1: don't want conservative students talking are Do you notice it's
Speaker 1: worse at elite level universities that I asked for this reason,
Speaker 1: I consider it to be more damaging than Harvard and
Speaker 1: Yale and Cornell and these kind of schools are nutballs.
Speaker 1: I think that's more damaging than you know, your favorite
Speaker 1: SEC football school. I just do because they're the ones,
Speaker 1: they're the ones producing the CEOs and the senators and
Speaker 1: things like that. Is it worse on these elite campuses?
Speaker 1: It's worse in some ways. A lot of them are
Speaker 1: private schools, and so when we're talking about the elite
Speaker 1: private schools, it's worse because they can get away with
Speaker 1: it in a way that our public universities can't. Right,
Speaker 1: our public universities are public colleges K through twelve. They're
Speaker 1: arms of the government, so the constitution unequivocally applies to them,
Speaker 1: and they cannot infringe on students' rights. With private schools,
Speaker 1: we have to look at the student handbooks, we have
Speaker 1: to look at private contracts and go into a whole
Speaker 1: different area of law. And so they know that they
Speaker 1: can get away with a little bit more, unfortunately, but
Speaker 1: this is just as prevalent on our SEC college campuses.
Speaker 1: We've had to step in right down the street here,
Speaker 1: even at Uga, as it is at your elite Harvards
Speaker 1: and Yales and Princeton's good grief. Okay, what's the parents
Speaker 1: supposed to do these days? Kimberly w Let's say their
Speaker 1: kid wants to go to school, gets into a school,
Speaker 1: has something they want to do. How does a parent
Speaker 1: protect their child? We have to start educating them at
Speaker 1: a young age, and it's really challenging right now with
Speaker 1: where we are with our public school system, and I
Speaker 1: think that's why we've seen the flight and the support
Speaker 1: for school choice right now. But it is really parents
Speaker 1: have to be involved. You have to see what your
Speaker 1: kids are being taught at a K through twelveth level,
Speaker 1: and then give them the tools that they can have
Speaker 1: to find groups like quite frankly like Southeastern Legal Foundation
Speaker 1: where we can help train these students on what their
Speaker 1: First Amendment rights are and how they can fight for them.
Speaker 1: That's really our goal. Right We're a litigation shop, so
Speaker 1: we're here to sue when we need to sue, but
Speaker 1: with the First Amendment. We want to give these students
Speaker 1: the tools that when they're out in the workplace and
Speaker 1: they graduate and they leave these college campuses, they can
Speaker 1: continue to be champions for the constitution. Kimberly, what are
Speaker 1: you doing about critical race theory? I'm assuming something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we actually filed a huge lawsuit last week on behalf
Speaker 1: of a drama teacher in Evanston, Illinois. She filed her
Speaker 1: lawsuit because the district there is discriminating against all of
Speaker 1: its students and all of its teachers through actions like segregation.
Speaker 1: They actually have mandatory segregation and teacher trainings that they
Speaker 1: also do in the school classrooms. They have privilege walks
Speaker 1: which have become quite popular and when you look at them,
Speaker 1: they've gone viral out there. They have taken us back
Speaker 1: seventy years into the past where we have now a
Speaker 1: race the civil rights movement according to them, and we
Speaker 1: need to look only at the color of skin. So
Speaker 1: we filed that federal lawsuit and we are in for
Speaker 1: the fight, but we're ready for it. Kimberly Herman, give
Speaker 1: out your website again in case people want to support
Speaker 1: this great effort. Yeah, it's s LF Liberty dot org.
Speaker 1: SLF liberty dot org, Kimberly, thank you so much. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Coming up next my final thoughts and I have a
Speaker 1: few I go. I know you love your kids. I'm
Speaker 1: a terrible person and I love my kids. Be careful
Speaker 1: with them, Be careful where you send them when they're eighteen.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be a slave to tradition just
Speaker 1: because your parents told you and their parents told them
Speaker 1: that go into college is what you have to do
Speaker 1: to earn a living and get a good job. That
Speaker 1: is a lie. That is a flat out lie. No,
Speaker 1: you don't. Maybe you have to go to college because
Speaker 1: you have to get a degree in a certain field
Speaker 1: where you want to enter. But these places are dangerous.
Speaker 1: Your child now is as in danger on a college
Speaker 1: campus as they are in the bad part of a
Speaker 1: big city after midnight. That is the truth. I know
Speaker 1: you love them. Set aside tradition and be careful. Don't
Speaker 1: send your child off to that village who hate you,
Speaker 1: to be educated by people who hate you. We have
Speaker 1: to stop doing this. We have to break the college
Speaker 1: stranglehold on our young people and the parents who tell
Speaker 1: them you have to go. All right, it's been a
Speaker 1: great show tonight, we are not going to stop. I'll
Speaker 1: see you again.