1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now, and 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: we're going to dive into an update here on the 5 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: Israel Tamas war. And as you know, this is reaching 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: a phase where there are surrenders of some considerable numbers 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: of moss terrorist militants in Gaza and it has not 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: taken long at all. And I think this was anticipated 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: taken long for the Biden administration to start speaking out 10 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: of both sides of its mouth, if you will, trying 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: to play kate both sides politically. I mean here was 12 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: that the CNN story from just about a day ago 13 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: was riffs between Biden and net and Yahoo spill into 14 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: public view. Also have front page of the Washington Post 15 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: right now images of stripped and humiliated Palestinians draw condemnation. 16 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: And to this, I just want to say, I've seen 17 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: the photos draw condemnation from whom who is going to 18 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: be criticizing Israel on this issue that knows what they're 19 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: talking about and understands the tactical realities on the ground 20 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: and understands what it means to be fighting a war 21 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: against a terrorist enemy. That gives no quarter, plays by 22 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: no rules, cares not at all about humanity or innocence 23 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,919 Speaker 2: or anything else. In fact, specifically tries to be as 24 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: violent and murderers towards the civilian population as it can. 25 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: I think it is worth noting for everyone that not 26 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: only did the people of Gaza vote for Hamas when 27 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: Hamas came in, they effectively all their political rivals. 28 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: And a hat. 29 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: Tip to Douglas Murray for once again bringing that to 30 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: the forefront that part of this conversation. But Koy, just 31 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: let's talk about this for a minute, because I mean, 32 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: I'm staring at the photo right now, and I saw 33 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: a lot of this on social media, and certainly Biden 34 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: has fair weather friend at best to Israel. We can 35 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: get into that some more. It's not a surprise they're 36 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 2: worried about Michigan. They're worried about the far left of 37 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: their party, which views this, as we've said, in simplistic 38 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: racial terms, even though that's it's both morally wrong and 39 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: factually inaccurate at the same time. Right, it's wrong on 40 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: all counts. But I look at this photo and I 41 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 2: see what's going on here, and the first two things 42 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: that come to mind are one Hamas really is best 43 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: known well now it's best known for the October seventh 44 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: attack and will be for decades to come, or for 45 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: as long as Summas lasts, maybe only a few months 46 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: to come, but is best known for being a terrorist 47 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: entity that deployed these suicide bombers and deployee suicide bombers. 48 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: That was a legit. 49 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: My first thought when I saw this was they're making 50 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: sure that these guys are not loaded. 51 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 2: With explosives, right, absolutely, I mean it's if somebody has 52 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 2: clothing on, they can and everybody who served in a 53 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: rock and Afghanistan knows s vest right and as what 54 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: we used to call them suicide vest they could have 55 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: a little bit of C four, some ball bearings or 56 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 2: some just scrap metal and just bam, and you know 57 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: the people get killed. They you know, they'll lose their 58 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: sight because of getting blinded by the shrapnel, and it's horrible, right, 59 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: why should Israeli soldiers. 60 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 3: Take that chance? 61 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: So Part one, which play you also you also see 62 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: immediately the tactical reality is you've got to have them 63 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: not clothed because these people will be suicide bombers and 64 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: we all know that that's how they will do things, because 65 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: they've shown it in the past, and they still celebrate 66 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: suicide bombers as martyrs or shaheed to this day. 67 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: The other part of this I have. 68 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: Is Israel takes prisoners. Yeah, Israel takes prisoners. If Israeli 69 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: soldiers were surrounded by members of Hamas, there is an 70 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: overwhelmingly high probability that they would be tortured, mutilated and 71 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: murdered and perhaps raped as well. And the only reason 72 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: they would keep them alive, as they have in the past, 73 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: is so that they could trade them for other people 74 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: trade them. And Israel always will give, you know, one 75 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: hundred to one huge differential in how many they will 76 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 2: trade to save lives versus what the Palestinians will do. 77 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: To me. 78 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: This actually just shows that the Israelis fight a very 79 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: different kind of war from Hamas, and it just makes 80 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: once again people are condemning this, the Biden Biden administrations 81 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: condemning the clay But I see this as more moral 82 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: clarity because they actually take prisoners. They're going to feed them, 83 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: they're going to give them medical care, they're not going 84 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: to torture them, they're not going to execute them. 85 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: I agree and I say more power to Israel for 86 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: doing this, and we should mention. Unfortunately, as we sit 87 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: here eleven days from Christmas, did you see this story 88 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: that just has come out this morning Hamas was planning 89 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: to carry out terror attacks on Jewish groups in Europe 90 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: and they just German police. I'm reading from a Daily 91 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: Mail UK version. German police today arrested three suspected members 92 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: of Hamas in Berlin, accused of preparing an attack against 93 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: Jewish targets in Europe. Three men, along with another subject 94 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: suspect arrested in the Netherlands, were said to have begun 95 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: preparing a weapons cash in the German capital in Berlin, 96 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: where arms would be kept in a state of readiness 97 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: for attacks against Jewish institutions in Europe. They were basically 98 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: Hamas planning to go after Jewish people all over Europe. 99 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: And I would suggest Bucking you would know better than 100 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: me because you were involved in all sorts of things 101 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: like this with the CIA. I would be stunned beyond 102 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: belief if there are not Hamas organizations in the United 103 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: States connected to Hamas, where they are trying to plan 104 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: their own version of these terror attacks in America right now, 105 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: I hope our authorities catch them. But for people out 106 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: there who say, oh, it's Israel, I'm not really concerned 107 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: about what HAMAS is doing. HAMAS is wants to bring 108 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: their attacks on Jews to our doorstep and Europe's doorstep 109 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: as well. So again, that news story just came out 110 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: of those four arrests in Europe with attas planned on 111 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: Jews there. So wouldn't you be stunned buck if there 112 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: aren't groups trying to plot to do something similar in 113 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: the United States affiliated with HAMAS and other terror organizations. 114 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: So I think it's it's more like it's more likely 115 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: that there would be groups allied with HAMAS, like Hesbala 116 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: is the when that comes to mind, Hesbala has cells 117 00:06:59,160 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: all over the world. 118 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 3: That is a fact. It is well known. 119 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: Hesbeola operates freely in the Triborder area of South America. 120 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: Hesbela has has connections to the Mexican drug cartels, has 121 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: connections to the Venezuelan government. Right, Hesbela is a international 122 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: terror actor and it has a level of sophistication and 123 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: monetary support that means that it's a constant threat. HAMAS 124 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: gets support from all these different groups It's very difficult 125 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: for Palestinians to travel, so their ability to get anywhere 126 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: is something of a challenge. 127 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: It's very difficult for them to go internationally. 128 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: So to me, it's more likely that hesbela cell is 129 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: activated on behalf of the Palestinians than say a specific 130 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: Hamas cell operating. 131 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: And this is a likelihood thing. 132 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: It's not saying that there's not a Hamas sell that 133 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: could get through and there aren't Palestinians who would act 134 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: in solidarity with Hamas or at the direction of them 135 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: as a terrorist entity. But you know, the the bigger 136 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: concern for me is really remember Hamas is kind of 137 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: the the tip of this year used against Israel and 138 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: the Jews, and then right, you know, the bigger entity 139 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: behind them were tied to them as hesba La allied 140 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: with them, and then the bigger entity behind that is Iran. Right, 141 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: so this all goes back to Iran as the great 142 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: state sponsor of terror. And while we're having this conversation 143 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: about you bring up the risks of Hamas cell operating, 144 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: Hamas engaging in terror attacks abroad. You know what they're 145 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: saying over at morning, Joe Clay, do you see this 146 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: who's responsible. Look at how long it took for the 147 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: complete moral perversion here to be a talking point on television. 148 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: This was on the Morning Joe Show. He says, well, 149 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: I'll let you hear it from him. This is cut 150 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: twenty four. Play this here. He is casting blame on 151 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: Benjamin Netan Yahoo for October seventh. 152 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: You have a guy that allowed this to happen. 153 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: It was on his watch. 154 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 4: He asked Doha to fund hamas his government waited eight 155 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 4: hours to go down and answer the calls of women 156 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 4: being raped and children being gunned down. And he's saying, oh, well, 157 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: we got to get through the war. No, he's incompetent, 158 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 4: and the Israelis don't even like and they want him not. 159 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 4: The question is when are they going to get the 160 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 4: guy responsible for the worst killing of Jews since the 161 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 4: Holocaust out and bring in responsible leadership that the United 162 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 4: States can work with. 163 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna I mean, that is truly insane. Yeah 164 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: we use that word sometimes, but that is get rid 165 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: of the guy responsible for the most Jews being killed 166 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:38,599 Speaker 2: since the Holocaust. 167 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 3: And it's the prime. 168 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: Minister of Israel. The not just the prime Minister of 169 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: Israel for many years by the way, a decorated veteran 170 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: of the IDF who lost his brother at the inteviarate, 171 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 2: a guy who's devoted his life. Say what you will 172 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: about Nan Young. I'm not saying guy's perfect, but the 173 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 2: guys in Israeli patriot you're blaming him for this. I mean, 174 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: could you imagine if in America cly after nine to 175 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 2: eleven someone said, you know who we have to go 176 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: find the real perpetrator of nine to eleven, George W. 177 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:08,239 Speaker 3: Bush. 178 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: I mean, people look at you like you're completely out 179 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: of your mind. 180 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: I think you can take it out of the terror 181 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: realm imagine Joe Scarborough said, after a woman was brutally raped, 182 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: you know who's responsible for the rape the woman? 183 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: He would lose his job immediately, right. I mean, this 184 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 3: has deranged. 185 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: Opinion from Joe Scarborough that the leader of a country 186 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: is responsible for the awful terror attack perpetrated upon them. Again, 187 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: just take it outside of the terror attack analogy. If 188 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough said, oh, you know that woman, she should 189 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: have known better, she shouldn't have been out after midnight. 190 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: She's the reason she got raped, he would blame the 191 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: victim's strategy is what I'm pointing to he would immediately 192 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: lose his job. And here he's blaming the president of 193 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: a country for over twelve hundred people being slaughtered in 194 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: a terror attack and saying that he's responsible for it. 195 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: No. 196 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: No, the person who does the violent crime is responsible 197 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: for the violent crime. 198 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 3: No one else. 199 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: If Hamas didn't engage in the most brutal terror attacks 200 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: since the Holocaust, Net Yahoo wouldn't be at war with 201 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: Hamas right now. Hamas caused all of this. The violent 202 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: predators caused the violent predator predation. 203 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: And so. 204 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't be surprised that you're going to try 205 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: to shift the blame and say, oh, Israel's responsible now 206 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: for what happened to them. Because what this would be 207 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: a great question for Joe Scarborough if you were ever 208 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: brave enough to actually come on a show like this. 209 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: So you think what that net Yahoo should have attacked 210 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: Hamas and wipe them out before Hamas attacked Israel. 211 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: Do you know what Joe Scarborough. 212 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: Would have said if Net Nyahu had opened up attacks 213 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: on Hamas to try to prevent an attack like this, Oh, 214 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: Israel's the aggressor. This is completely unacceptable. So I would 215 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: just love for Joe Scarborough to explain to me what 216 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: he believes Benjamin Netanyah, who should have done. That would 217 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: make net and Yaho not responsible for this, because if 218 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: Netanyaho had attacked in an earlier raid Hamas because he 219 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: believed they were about to be attacking Israel, then people 220 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: like Joe Scarborough would have gone on and said, look 221 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: at all these innocent dead people in Gaza. This blood 222 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: is all on Benjamin net ya Who's hand. 223 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: Look look at how look at what a quizzling Scarborough 224 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 2: and his little table of cronies are. The man responsible 225 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 2: for the October seventh atrocity is Benjamin Nutt. You heard 226 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 2: his words, I played his words. He's responsible for it. 227 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: This is how morally obtuse the mainstream Democrat party is 228 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: on this issue. This is how the willing to bend, 229 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 2: the kneed to wokeness and race obsession, and the pretense that, oh, 230 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: they care so much about the lives lost in Gaza 231 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: and all these people. What about all the lives lost 232 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: in Gaza? Ask anyone whoever brings that to you, anyone 233 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: who ever takes that position, how many lives have been 234 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: lost in the u Many Civil War, in the last decade, murdered, raped, 235 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: killed in bombings, and how many, how many have been 236 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: lost in many civil war. They will have no idea, 237 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: and you can tell them, well, it's a couple of 238 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 2: hundred thousand, not ten thousand, which is what they're saying 239 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: in Gaza fourteen thousand. It's a few one hundred thousand 240 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: Muslim lives lost. Where are all the protests, Oh, it's 241 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: Muslims killing them. So you know, the UN doesn't care 242 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: brown Campaies don't. 243 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 3: Care brown skinned people. The rules don't apply. 244 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: That's right, when two brown skinned people kill each other, right, 245 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: same thing, sadly, I mean, that's the identity politics were 246 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: rules of America. The black murder rate's gone through the 247 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: roof in post COVID. Nobody cares. 248 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so true. 249 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 2: We'll take someone. Your calls here coming up in just 250 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: a moment. 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PHX on air dot Com. 268 00:14:55,280 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: Today, one truth revealed after another Clay Travis end Welcome 269 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: Back in Play Travis buck Sexton show. I wanted to 270 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: thank everyone out there as we come up near the 271 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty three and get ready for what 272 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: will certainly be and absolutely bonkers twenty twenty four. Both 273 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: Bucke and myself have had an awesome time hanging out 274 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: with you, and it's nice to see that we are 275 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: being well received here as we're coming into what your 276 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: next year will be, year number four, not the full year, 277 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: but we started in twenty one. We'll be entering in 278 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: the fourth year obviously behind these microphones. And Barrett News 279 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: Media has a big industry poll that they do of 280 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: the best news radio shows. And you know, I hate 281 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: to brag and draw attention to myself, as all of 282 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: you out there listening, no, and as Buck has certainly learned, 283 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: we were number one, so that's pretty great. Sean Hannity 284 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: was number two. So a lot of you are listening 285 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: to us in shaw On Shawn, I'm not sure if 286 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: he has WiFi on his new private jets, so he 287 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: may or may not have seen this yet. So I 288 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: think he'll probably do fine here. As I saw DeSantis 289 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: come out and say, hey, Sean Hannity's the best at 290 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: hosting debates. We want to do a debate with Nicki Haley. 291 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: In all seriousness, Shawn's in the same studio with us 292 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: in New York. He's phenomenal, and I think this is 293 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: a credit to the work of Julie Talbot. 294 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: But they've got. 295 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: Us one, Sean two, and in third place Glenn Beck. 296 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: And that is the morning through the afternoon and then 297 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: they've got our friend Jesse Kelly at eight. So the 298 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: lineup that many of you are hearing distributed by Premiere Radio. 299 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: Our boss Julie Talbot's done a fabulous job. We're excited 300 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: to have this opportunity and to see one, two, three, 301 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: US Hannity and then Glenn Beck is pretty awesome and 302 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: we're having fun and I think hopefully only the best 303 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: still to come. Bo twenty four is going to be 304 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: potentially the wildest election year combined with everything else that 305 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: truly any of us have lived through, and we can't 306 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: wait to spend three hours every day with all of 307 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: you throughout what is going to be a Bonker's twenty 308 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: twenty four. 309 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: Thank you all for listening and for giving us a shot. Obviously, 310 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: trying to follow in the steps of the greatest of 311 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 2: all time is a major task, and as I'm fond 312 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 2: of saying, nobody can fill Russia's shoes, but Clay hopped 313 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: into one shoe, I hopped into the other. 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Sleeve Travis and 341 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth. 342 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: So what are the Democrats going to do about the 343 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: problems that they face with Hunter Biden and Joe Biden? 344 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 2: And the realization that anybody who's paying attention can see 345 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 2: very clearly, based on the evidence, and the evidence is 346 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: not in dispute, that there's a big problem for at 347 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: least an on an ethical level of Bidens, and then 348 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: also perhaps even on a legal one that goes beyond 349 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 2: just Hunters court challenges or issues issues of law. What 350 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 2: are they going to do about this? It's funny there 351 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 2: are all these people that I see saying, how are 352 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: they going to deal with this in the election year? Clay, 353 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: what are they? Well, They're going to lie. It's actually 354 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 2: rather straightforward. They don't have some elaborate plan. The Democrats 355 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 2: haven't thought through some brilliant strategy about how to make 356 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 2: the Hunter and Joe problems go away. They are going 357 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: to lie. And here you have a montage of mainstream media, 358 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: democratic corporate media parroting the there's no evidence for the 359 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 2: Biden impeachment inquiry Play one. The Lower Chamber is moving 360 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 2: forward with an impeachment inquiry despite presenting no evidence of 361 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: any wrongdoing by the president. 362 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: Those leading the charge have not found any credible evidence. 363 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: There has been no evidence yet presented none whatsoever. They 364 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: have struggled to prove that Biden profited off his son's 365 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: foreign business deals. 366 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 4: They had yet to find evidence of a specific corrupt 367 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 4: action president Biden took. 368 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: They had not seen any credible evidence. 369 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: If there was a smoking gun, we would have seen 370 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 1: it by now. 371 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 5: There's there has been no evidence put forth of wrongdoing 372 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 5: by the president. Republicans are acting in bad faith and 373 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 5: pursuing a political act, not a constitutional one. 374 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: This is a political sign. 375 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 3: They were mean to Donald Trump, We're being mean to 376 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 3: Joe Biden. Can I just say, I mean, there's so 377 00:20:59,280 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: much here. 378 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: We know for a fact that Joe Biden had conversations 379 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 2: with Hunter Biden shady business associates. And we also know 380 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: that there's a lot of money that hasn't been accounted for, 381 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: and we know that Hunter committed a whole bunch of 382 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: crimes based on his connection to his dad. There's a 383 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 2: mountain of evidence pointing to the need for an inquiry. 384 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: I remember Clay what they did during the Trump Russia collusion. Well, 385 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 2: if we don't have the evidence, that's why we're looking 386 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 2: for it. Yeah, how about that? Yeah, no evidence is 387 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 2: a lie. 388 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: Now, some of those clips people were saying there's no 389 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: credible evidence, which is at least a better version of 390 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: no evidence, right, because you can argue about the veracity 391 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: the credibility of the evidence that has provided to you. 392 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: But there's mountains of evidence that Joe Biden has engaged 393 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: in inappropriate behavior, and buck the decision to open an 394 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: impeachment inquiry is beyond a doubt, the right choice. But 395 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: Jonathan Turley tweeted out a couple of things that I 396 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: thought were interesting about the argument that Hunter Biden made 397 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: in front of the Capitol yesterday, which the more I 398 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: think about it, the more reckless it is. And I've 399 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: got another angle after I read this one that I 400 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: would point out that a caller raised yesterday, if Joe Biden, 401 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: this is Jonathan Turley, who is a professor of constitutional 402 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: law at George Washington University in DC, if Joe Biden 403 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: did confer with Hunter on defying Congress, it was a 404 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: this is about Joe Biden said, according to reports that 405 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: he and Hunter talked about the fact that Hunter would 406 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: not show up and comply with the subpoena to give 407 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 1: a deposition. If Joe Biden did confer with Hunter on 408 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: defying Congress, it was a breath taking mistake. Obstruction is 409 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: a potential article of impeachment. Hunter was asked to give 410 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: testimony on his father's role in the alleged influence pedaling. 411 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: It's a great point by Jonathan Terly, and I hadn't 412 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: thought about it. Second part of this Buck and one 413 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: of our callers raised this. Hunter Biden is out on 414 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: I believe bail basically for the felony charges outstanding against 415 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: him in Delaware and also outstanding against him in California. Typically, 416 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: as a part of that release, you are acknowledging that 417 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: you will not commit further crimes. Anybody out there with 418 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: a basic knowledge of criminal law, if you are out 419 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: on bail, if you're out pending the results of a 420 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: of a criminal related investigation, you are obligated not to 421 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: commit a crime while you're out, and if you do, 422 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: you can be put back in prison. And a good 423 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: example of this is Sam Bankman freed. Remember, he was 424 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: on release before his trial, and then they decided that 425 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: he had violated the terms of his release, and they 426 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: took him back into prison and made him stay in 427 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: prison while he was on trial, as opposed to allowing 428 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: him to remain free. Reason why I raise that if 429 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden is accused of being in contempt of Congress, 430 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: is he violating the terms of his bail? A caller 431 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: raised that issue, I think yesterday or the day before, 432 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: and I meant to bring it up, Buck, And I 433 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: don't pretend to be a legal scholar on this particular issue, 434 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: But if we have criminal attorneys out there who represent 435 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: clients who might be out on bail pending felony charges, 436 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: is that's an interesting angle that I hadn't heard anyone raise, 437 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: which is, most of the time you have a duty 438 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: not to commit further criminal acts. 439 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: If he's refusing to comply, now he. 440 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: Could show up and he could testify, and maybe this 441 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: is what I expected him to do. I expect him 442 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: to show up, Buck, and just assert his Fifth Amendment 443 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: rights and not actually respond to any of the questions 444 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: at the deposition. That doesn't sound like what he's playing 445 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: to do. Based on his statements, but can you add 446 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: other criminal allegations that you are adding up? Again, this 447 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: is a new criminal act theoretically if he's held in contempt. 448 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: And remember I'm not an expert on this, but Steve 449 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: bannon is was charged with a felony for refusing to 450 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: comply with a congressional subpoena, if I remember correctly. So 451 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: they've been aggressive about prosecuting these issues. I would love 452 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: to hear what Martin Merrick Garland's going to do with this. 453 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: You know, one way that you can tell the fixes 454 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: in is between now and the election. I bet you'll 455 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 2: never hear anything about Hunter Biden in plea deal negotiations 456 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 2: because he's not going to plea, correct But he's clearly guilty, 457 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 2: and if he doesn't plea, he could face many years 458 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: in federal prison. Now, no one else whose dad wasn't 459 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: the president would play this game. But he's going to 460 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: play this game. You'll see they'll be there, won't even 461 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: be a discussion. They'll take this off, and they'll take 462 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: it all the way under the guise of, oh, it's 463 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: because Hunter is innocent. They're gonna say that, They're going 464 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 2: to lie to everyone's faces and say that Hunter is innocent, 465 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: There'll be no discussion if there certainly won't be a 466 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 2: plea deal that he takes because he would have to 467 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 2: get prison time at this point, given all the charges 468 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: and all the things, and so you'll just see that 469 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: he'll try to extend it out and he's going to 470 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 2: roll the dice on this because he's got the ultimate 471 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 2: trump card. 472 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: Dare I say? Yeah? 473 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: And the IRS charges to me are are really difficult 474 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: to get past. It's one thing if you're out there. 475 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: Let's say you're a multimillionaire and this sometimes happens, you 476 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: have an IRS case and the IRS says, oh, you 477 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: paid I don't know, sixty million in taxes. 478 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: You're super rich. 479 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: Let's say you're a billionaire and the IRS says, actually, 480 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: you owe US ninety five million in taxes. And you 481 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: go to court and your argument is well based on 482 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: the interpretation of the law, this is why we paid this, 483 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: and the IRS argues something else, and it's a dispute 484 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: over what you owe that can be difficult to reconcile. 485 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 1: Because you got good account and smart people on both 486 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: sides making arguments. Hunter Biden didn't even bother a file 487 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: at tax return. So the argument of oh Hunter in 488 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: any way, yes. 489 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: I mean how high was he think about it? 490 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: Yes, while making millions of dollars And don't forget they 491 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: walled off. I would argue that there actually is now 492 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: evidence that they could bring back and do away with 493 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: that statute of limitations issue. But they didn't even charge 494 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: him for not paying millions of dollars in taxes and 495 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: what two thy thirteen and fourteen. 496 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: They let the FARA charge expire Foreign Agent Registration Act. 497 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: And the reason they did that, and this is a 498 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 2: huge benefit to Hunter, is that that's part of that 499 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: wall of separation between Hunter and Joe because if he's 500 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 2: acting as a foreign agent on behalf of what on 501 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 2: behalf of access to Joe Biden. That's the whole point. 502 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: That's the whole plan, and we have by the way, Hunter, 503 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: you want it, You want to hear this one real 504 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 2: quick before we get the break here. Hunters saying that 505 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 2: Republicans attack him, but you know what his dad has done, 506 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 2: his dad, who has multiple multimillion dollar mansions, and all 507 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 2: his dad has ever done is try to help the 508 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 2: country play twenty five for six. 509 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,719 Speaker 5: Years, MAGA Republicans, including members of the House committees who 510 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 5: are in a closed door session session right now, have 511 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 5: impugned my character and daded my privacy, attacked my wife, 512 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 5: my children, my family, and my friends. 513 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 3: They've ridiculed my. 514 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: Struggle with addiction. 515 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 5: They've belittled my recovery, and they have tried to dehumanize me, 516 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 5: all to embarrass and damage my father, who has devoted 517 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 5: his entire public life to service. 518 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 3: His whole life is just about serving the country. 519 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: And also, is it an addiction admitting that you're responsible 520 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: yourself as I'm not, Thankfully I have not dealt with 521 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: addiction in my own life. But if you're constantly pointing 522 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: to other people that are an issue with your addiction, 523 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: isn't that one of the things that is a sign 524 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: that you have not recovered as an addict, that you're 525 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: continuing to point to other people and say they're responsible. 526 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: Nobody made the choices that Hunter Biden made except for 527 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, and he's been protected and he's been entitled 528 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: throughout and it feels to me like he's still doing 529 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: that same thing. And I would just ask where is 530 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: the honest and fair treatment of Hunter Biden, Because it 531 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: seems to me that what Joe Biden is doing is 532 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: actually coddling his son and allowing. 533 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 3: Him to make excuses, which makes. 534 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: A relapse even more likely than it would be if 535 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden just completely he owned everything that he did 536 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: and stop blaming other people for trying to hold him 537 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: responsible for not paying taxes. He's not being charged buck 538 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: for purchases of drugs. 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Have you 593 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: seen the newest on the Harvard Uh professor Buck who 594 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: uh the clutting gay sorry, the Harvard president who they 595 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: tried to fire but then they said we're not going 596 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: to fire her because you know, her scholarship wasn't actually 597 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 1: played your eyes. Tomorrow, we're gonna talk with Carol Swain, 598 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: a former Vanderbilt law and undergrad professor whose work was 599 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: allegedly stolen and not trop properly attributed in Claudeine Gay's work. 600 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: But the head of the Incuba Inn Double ACP, I 601 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: was gonna say in Cuba, the head of the n 602 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: Double ACP says, any criticism of Harvard President Claudine Gay 603 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: for anti semitism or plagiarism is part of quote, a 604 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: white supremacist agenda. So if you think this is a 605 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: we now have a very expansive definition of white supremacy. 606 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 3: I'll just point out. 607 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 1: If you think that you should protect Jews, you're now 608 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: a white supremacist. I wouldn't have anti correct me if 609 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, Buck, I don't think usually the traditional definition 610 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: of white supremacy would include super protective of Jewish people. 611 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 3: I'm just I don't think the. 612 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: KKK back in the day were running around like dressed 613 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 1: in their hoods, lining up in in front of Jewish 614 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: temples to ensure that no one did any ill to. 615 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 3: The Jews inside. I'm just going to toss that out. 616 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a historical, but that is the 617 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: argument now from the NAACP. 618 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 3: And what I think, would you. 619 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: Think that I was correct that traditionally white supremacist is 620 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: not enamored of the Jewish people. 621 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: If you know the history of the KKK, obviously you know, yes, 622 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: that they were targeting specifically targeting the Jewish people. I 623 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: think that what we're seeing at some level with this 624 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 2: Harvard President situation is the uh, the solidifying if you will, 625 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: of the reality that we have all known about for 626 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 2: many years, perhaps even now a couple of decades, in 627 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 2: higher education and American and really the war on merit 628 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 2: more generally, and now it's just really blatant out there 629 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 2: in the open, and the attitude is no longer Oh, 630 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 2: it's about a mosaic of competing goods, and there's all 631 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 2: this different stuff and diversity and inclusion and all this 632 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 2: sort of this amorphous language. It really actually just turns 633 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 2: into yeah, this is how it goes. Now what are 634 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 2: you gonna do about it? And that's kind of what 635 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 2: they challenge people to do. Now, Yeah, we put unqualified 636 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 2: people in really powerful positions and don't hold them to 637 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 2: account at all. 638 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 3: What are you going to do about it? 639 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: They put incredibly unqualified people in based on their race, 640 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: and their and their gender. 641 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 2: Of their gender identity, a whole range of things. 642 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: And then if you point to it and say, well, 643 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: I think that person only got their job because of 644 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: their race and gender. It's racist and sexist to point 645 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 1: it out. Good example, Kamala Joe Biden specifically said I'm 646 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: going to pick a woman. He didn't and by the way, 647 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: for Katanji Brown Jackson, he actually said, I'm only going 648 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: to put a black woman on the Supreme Court. And 649 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: then you say, well, I think Katanji Brown Jackson's only 650 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: on the Supreme Court because she's a black woman. The 651 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: immediate response is that's racist and sexist of you to 652 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: even suggest so. Saying specifically I'm going to put a 653 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 1: black woman on the Supreme Court, not racist in sexist 654 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: pointing out that it occurred, actually racist in sexist. And 655 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: this goes to policing speech in general. But when you're 656 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: calling someone a white supremacist because they are too protective 657 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: of Jews, we. 658 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 3: Basically, I mean you knew. Remember back in the day. 659 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: When Larry Elder was the blackface of white supremacy, which 660 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 1: was an unbelievable but real headline on the La Times. 661 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: Now everybody's a white supremacist, evidentially especially. 662 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 2: People in the next hour. Where are we going? What 663 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 2: magical journey you taking us on? 664 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm taking us on a magical journey into what in 665 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: the world. 666 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 3: Is actually going on. With thirty one days till Ide,