Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: Last week, JD. Vance got into this whole kerfuffle from
Speaker 1: an old video from twenty twenty one, where he said
Speaker 1: this quote, the entire future of the Democrats is controlled
Speaker 1: by people without children. How does it make sense We've
Speaker 1: turned our country over to people who don't really have
Speaker 1: a direct stake in it. He said the country was
Speaker 1: being run by quote, a bunch of childless cat ladies
Speaker 1: who are miserable at their own lives and choices that
Speaker 1: they've made, and so they want to make the rest
Speaker 1: of the country miserable too. I'm going to maybe write
Speaker 1: about the politics of the comment and the way that
Speaker 1: Democrats attacked him for telling them how to live their lives,
Speaker 1: as if they don't do that to all of us
Speaker 1: all the time. But Vance went on the Megan Kelly
Speaker 1: Show and said that people weren't addressing the substance of
Speaker 1: what he said. So I want to do that here,
Speaker 1: especially since I frequently talk about what a societal and
Speaker 1: personal plus it is to have children. My thinking is
Speaker 1: that Vance's comments are absolutely right on the macro level.
Speaker 1: Of course, society is better off with people having children.
Speaker 1: Of course, people have more of a stake in society
Speaker 1: if they have kids. It's crazy to believe otherwise. When
Speaker 1: I worry about Europe or specifically Britain, because the rest
Speaker 1: of the continent, you know, I feel less about But
Speaker 1: I've always loved Britain. It's a large part because they're
Speaker 1: not having kids. It does feel sort of shoulder struggy
Speaker 1: about the future because their birth rate continues to drop. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're not you know, super emotional people, stiff upper lip,
Speaker 1: et cetera. But it feels very much like they're losing
Speaker 1: their culture and society to unchecked immigration, and very few
Speaker 1: feel like fighting back because what's the point. But on
Speaker 1: a micro level, what Vance said is insulting, and I
Speaker 1: fully understand that there are people who desperately want to
Speaker 1: have children and can't. There are people who don't want
Speaker 1: to have children but still care passionately about the country
Speaker 1: that will live on after they're gone. Of course, all
Speaker 1: of that's true. I can think of many examples in
Speaker 1: my own life of people representing both of these things.
Speaker 1: It's funny that people have brought up George Washington as
Speaker 1: an example of someone who cared deeply for the country
Speaker 1: despite not having children. I use George Washington as an
Speaker 1: example for friends who are on the fence about having kids.
Speaker 1: I wish we had George Washington's progeny around right now.
Speaker 1: Vance was trying to target Democrats for not being the
Speaker 1: party of families, and sorry, I fully get that. It
Speaker 1: was very obvious when Democrats did everything they could to
Speaker 1: not open schools during the pandemic. Randy Weingarten was one
Speaker 1: of the worst villains of that, and obviously she doesn't
Speaker 1: have kids. But again back to the micro level, some
Speaker 1: of my greatest allies in getting schools open were childless.
Speaker 1: Of course, we can't just assume that people without kids
Speaker 1: don't have a stake in the future. Vance is a
Speaker 1: vice presidential candidate now, and his vision should be for
Speaker 1: the whole country. I'd love for him to cut out
Speaker 1: the micro. He insulted people who otherwise like him, and
Speaker 1: that's a silly thing to do in politics. I'd love
Speaker 1: to hear him speak more about the macro, about how
Speaker 1: good it is for all of us to have kids,
Speaker 1: about how our country needs people to have families, and
Speaker 1: I'd love for him to get into the decline of
Speaker 1: marriage rates, because look, while kids are important, I'm most
Speaker 1: scared about the relationships that the younger generations just aren't
Speaker 1: having and find so much harder to find. One thing
Speaker 1: leads to another. Talk about the benefits of marriage and
Speaker 1: kids will largely follow. Coming up next an interview with
Speaker 1: Justin Robert Young. Join us after the break.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Carol Marcowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My
Speaker 2: guest today is Justin Robert Young, national politics reporter and
Speaker 2: host of the Politics, Politics, Politics podcast.
Speaker 3: Hi, Justin, so nice to have you on.
Speaker 4: I'm very excited for a non political show.
Speaker 5: I forced you to say politics four times in the
Speaker 5: first three seconds.
Speaker 2: Well, so I was going to say politics, politics, politics.
Speaker 2: What's your podcast about?
Speaker 5: Mostly model train building? You know, we try to diversify.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I came up with a name that was very memorable,
Speaker 5: but possibly the worst SEO decision that I've ever made
Speaker 5: in my entire life.
Speaker 2: Hi, everybody's googling politics podcasts.
Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, and that's the problem is that everything else
Speaker 5: shows up before my podcast.
Speaker 4: I should have. I should have.
Speaker 5: My second name was the Carol Mark Wood Show. So
Speaker 5: I'm glad that.
Speaker 2: I used that because that would have been a problem.
Speaker 2: So we recently met for the first time at the
Speaker 2: southern border visit.
Speaker 3: What do you think of that?
Speaker 5: We're all great friendships begin Yes, a talent at the
Speaker 5: southern US border.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the many.
Speaker 2: Unfinished walls that you could just walk right around.
Speaker 3: That was actually I feel like.
Speaker 2: That's a story that doesn't get told enough. That all
Speaker 2: of the walls are extremely easy to penetrate, Like, well,
Speaker 2: the Trump Wall is like you literally could just walk
Speaker 2: around it because it's not finished, and I don't know
Speaker 2: how it could be finished because there's really nowhere they
Speaker 2: could go, because they explained to us right that there's
Speaker 2: nowhere that the wall can continue on to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was something, you know, it was.
Speaker 5: It was a really interesting trip and I'm glad that
Speaker 5: I did it because it showed that that problem is
Speaker 5: so small faceted. When you look at the wall and McCallen,
Speaker 5: you realize very quickly that America's number one trading partners Mexico,
Speaker 5: So you kind of the wall makes a lot of
Speaker 5: sense just to make sure that the money is coming
Speaker 5: in in this direction, and then anybody who would want
Speaker 5: to claim asylum would be going in another direction, which
Speaker 5: just makes sense. It makes business sense for a lot
Speaker 5: of different stakeholders. The larger issue I think that we
Speaker 5: were explained and talked to a bunch of people is
Speaker 5: just that we have a broken asylum system that has
Speaker 5: been abused, and that's that's where I think we probably
Speaker 5: have more of a political issue that will be dealt with,
Speaker 5: you know, going.
Speaker 2: Forward, we'll never be dealt with or won't.
Speaker 5: And we'll just continue to have a problem and everybody
Speaker 5: will raise money on it for the rest of time.
Speaker 3: That sounds more plausible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 2: So how did you get into politics podcasting?
Speaker 3: What was your background?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 5: I was a bright eyed young journalism student way back
Speaker 5: in the day, and I got a degree in Syracuse
Speaker 5: University at the new House School, and I was all
Speaker 5: excited to begin my career. I was a crime reporter initially,
Speaker 5: that's really what I wanted to do. And then looked
Speaker 5: at the landscape of newspapers, which at that point we
Speaker 5: were at like the final days of newspapers being a
Speaker 5: relevant thing in.
Speaker 2: The world because the timing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I graduate in two thousand and five, so
Speaker 5: we are right. I'm super fired up by the Internet
Speaker 5: and super fired up about blogging.
Speaker 4: I look in the field and I'm like, eh, let's
Speaker 4: give it a couple of years.
Speaker 5: So I decided to go and try a few other
Speaker 5: things in the meanwhile. And by the time that I
Speaker 5: got back to a position that I wanted to maybe
Speaker 5: re enter the matrix, everything was on fire. Newspapers were
Speaker 5: not moving in the position that I wanted to, and
Speaker 5: so at that point I pretty much began podcasting and blogging,
Speaker 5: and that kind of started right out of college. It
Speaker 5: was a horrifying financial decision for me. It certainly was
Speaker 5: cool among.
Speaker 3: Us didn't make that horrifying financial decision, you know.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Pursuing our dreams.
Speaker 4: We're so stupid exactly.
Speaker 5: Now. The good news is is that now, as we
Speaker 5: talk in twenty twenty four, it might be investing all
Speaker 5: this time into the world of free entertainment on the
Speaker 5: internet might have been the best way to invest my time,
Speaker 5: as I can now make a living doing it. But boy,
Speaker 5: in the moment, as I was paying off my student loans,
Speaker 5: I really felt like a ding donk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, most expensive mistake I've ever made is going to
Speaker 2: graduate school for politics.
Speaker 3: You know, I what a huge error? Turned out nobody needed.
Speaker 5: That, No, Yeah, thankfully I was. I was so disillusioned
Speaker 5: with college. As soon as I got there, the concept
Speaker 5: of finishing my undergraduate was was going to be an upset,
Speaker 5: which did happen only because I started working at the
Speaker 5: Daily Orange, which is a student paper that's independent of
Speaker 5: the university. But I just spent my entire time there
Speaker 5: actually learning how to you know, report and overseeing a
Speaker 5: budget and overseeing a staff, you know, actual lessons that
Speaker 5: were applicable to my life. If I had only gone
Speaker 5: to class I, I really would have been a lot more.
Speaker 4: Sad than I am now Now I'm happy, which is good.
Speaker 3: So what do you consider your beat?
Speaker 2: Like, what's what are you most covering?
Speaker 4: Politics? Yeah?
Speaker 5: So how did I get into politics?
Speaker 4: I really kind of backed into it.
Speaker 5: Politics was something that I have always been obsessed with.
Speaker 5: It's always been something that I followed. It's, you know, to.
Speaker 4: Give my my druthers.
Speaker 5: If I'm re reading a book, if I'm reading newspaper coverage,
Speaker 5: I'm always I've always been obsessed with politics and political history.
Speaker 5: And so I'm doing a comedy show that then turns
Speaker 5: into a one mic show. And I decided in the
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen election that you want to know what this
Speaker 5: is getting a little heated let me separate out the politics,
Speaker 5: so I can everybody can, we can have fun with
Speaker 5: this other thing, and I can just talk.
Speaker 4: Politics on this other show.
Speaker 5: I'll quarantine it, right, And it turned out that the
Speaker 5: audience wanted me. There was a lot bigger audience for
Speaker 5: me to talk about politics than there was for me
Speaker 5: to talk about news of the of the day. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and so it wound up becoming my main gig.
Speaker 2: And I feel like you love politics, and I don't
Speaker 2: mean so. A lot of people love politics. I love politics,
Speaker 2: but I also hate politics. I feel like you don't
Speaker 2: have like a love hate necessarily.
Speaker 3: I think you really do love it.
Speaker 5: I really do, mostly because I don't think that they're
Speaker 5: are many things on the planet that are the same
Speaker 5: sociological experiments that we do once every four years.
Speaker 4: Specifically, here in America, we have raw crush it up.
Speaker 5: And snort it fast, and the furious style first past
Speaker 5: the post democracy on a level that nobody else in
Speaker 5: the world has, And so.
Speaker 4: It's interesting.
Speaker 5: The strategies are interesting to me, The messaging is interesting
Speaker 5: to me. And the competency of these gigantic machines that
Speaker 5: sort of battle out in front of us is endlessly fascinating,
Speaker 5: as is the history to it.
Speaker 2: So a question that I ask everybody on this show
Speaker 2: is what is our largest cultural problem? And so what
Speaker 2: is it? And is it something that you cover on
Speaker 2: your podcast.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's anything that I cover.
Speaker 5: I do think that it is something that is exploited
Speaker 5: by politics, and that is fatalism. I think that America
Speaker 5: has a real fatalism problem and it is.
Speaker 4: Well, let me let me rephrase it.
Speaker 5: America's self loathing complex, I think is its greatest strength,
Speaker 5: especially strength.
Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't think you're gonna say strength.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, what as much as I've traveled around the world, Uh,
Speaker 5: there's one thing that stands out, and that's America has
Speaker 5: its own faults, very front and center in its mind,
Speaker 5: and that goes across all political spectrums. We know what
Speaker 5: the problem is and we want to address it immediately,
Speaker 5: and that has been to our great benefit. I think
Speaker 5: it's been to our great benefit economically, technologically, and socially.
Speaker 5: We have we have benefited from our ability to identify
Speaker 5: problems and go forward. The problem that I see is
Speaker 5: that there's two ways that you can handle it. When
Speaker 5: you identify a problem, fix it or wallow in it.
Speaker 5: And I think that in our modern world, we've wallowed
Speaker 5: in it a little bit more than I think is healthy.
Speaker 4: And that's in politics.
Speaker 5: You exploit that a lot because you need a problem
Speaker 5: to solve, so you can get people to donate money
Speaker 5: and go to.
Speaker 4: The ballot box and hit a button.
Speaker 5: But you should take some time off from that and
Speaker 5: think of why, how far have we come have we
Speaker 5: been working on this problem?
Speaker 4: Look at that?
Speaker 5: You know, I think we all see that in our
Speaker 5: own lives that sometimes you got to take a breath
Speaker 5: and you got to look at the road behind you
Speaker 5: and say.
Speaker 4: Wow, we've walked a long way.
Speaker 5: We should feel good about that without sacrificing the idea
Speaker 5: that we do have longer to walk.
Speaker 1: We're going to take a quick break and be right
Speaker 1: back on the Carol Markowitz Show.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people think of Americans because
Speaker 2: it's funny you said, you say that we're self loathing.
Speaker 2: I just picture like people in Europe who think that
Speaker 2: we're like so obsessed with ourselves, like, yeah, well we
Speaker 2: are self loathing. We're constantly beerating ourselves and we're constantly
Speaker 2: I think there's a sense in America that doesn't exist
Speaker 2: in places like you're, for example, that when there's a problem,
Speaker 2: it has to be solved, even if we don't end
Speaker 2: up solving it, which we don't, we at least kind
Speaker 2: of entertain that.
Speaker 3: We should solve this problem.
Speaker 2: And I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't see that.
Speaker 2: Some other countries necessarily have that. I lived in Britain
Speaker 2: for a while. They're not looking to solve any.
Speaker 5: No, and that's we have such a self loathing complex
Speaker 5: that we go to other countries so if they can
Speaker 5: complain about us, so we can agree with them, right, Like, that's.
Speaker 4: That's that's it. It's a fascinating, a fascinating thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, I mean, and it's hard to not
Speaker 5: be obsessed with yourself when you're an American when you
Speaker 5: go abroad and every news that you go to has
Speaker 5: like a fifteen minute here's what happened in America today, Yes, right,
Speaker 5: the way, that doesn't happen in America.
Speaker 4: In America, it's fifteen minutes for the rest of you,
Speaker 4: Like maybe maybe you get a little bit, but.
Speaker 5: It's a gigantic, gigantic block in any Western country, Japan
Speaker 5: or Japan not a Western country obviously, but a First
Speaker 5: World country, Japan, England, Italy, Germany.
Speaker 4: Any place that I have been, they all have the
Speaker 4: same thing.
Speaker 5: So at a certain point you do have to throw
Speaker 5: your hair back and say, oh my god, why are
Speaker 5: you so obsessed with me?
Speaker 3: Was yours? The Mariah carry line? Though? Why are you
Speaker 3: so obsessed with me?
Speaker 5: Why? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Subsessed?
Speaker 5: Well that was my first thought when the UK announced
Speaker 5: that they were having their elections on July fourth.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, why are you so obsessed with us?
Speaker 2: Like, God, it's been a while, you guys should really
Speaker 2: get over it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so do you?
Speaker 2: Another question that I asked all my guests is do
Speaker 2: you feel like you've made it? You have a really
Speaker 2: successful podcast, you talk about what you want to be
Speaker 2: talking about your you know, self made right, It's it's
Speaker 2: a big thing.
Speaker 5: Uh, you know, it's it's funny as I've thought a
Speaker 5: lot about you sent these questions, and so I've really
Speaker 5: wrestled with this and them.
Speaker 2: So I'll tell you that I like that. I get
Speaker 2: a lot of shocked faces of.
Speaker 3: People being like, what where did It's all my email? Actually?
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I'm going to say yes because I do
Speaker 5: believe that I have built something rare for now I
Speaker 5: think that we will probably see stories like mine a
Speaker 5: lot more common going forward. But I'm not a satisfied guy.
Speaker 5: I'm not somebody that that tends to rest well on things,
Speaker 5: and so there will always be a part of me
Speaker 5: that wishes I had plugged into the matrix that I
Speaker 5: had some buzzy you know, I had a a poster
Speaker 5: a Times pick any of them like next to my
Speaker 5: name at some point, just because those were the brands
Speaker 5: that I was obsessed with growing up. But at the
Speaker 5: same time, whenever I get into my head of like, well,
Speaker 5: you know you can apply, like you know people that
Speaker 5: work in these places, like you could you could go
Speaker 5: work there, I'm like, yeah, yeah, but then I'd have
Speaker 5: a boss and I probably wouldn't want to do the
Speaker 5: things that they want me to do.
Speaker 4: And so I talked myself out of it.
Speaker 5: So on one level, I do think that I've got
Speaker 5: miles to go. I do think that what I do
Speaker 5: could be bigger and better, and I could apply myself
Speaker 5: more and I could do X, Y and Z. So
Speaker 5: I will, for motivational purposes say no, but to just
Speaker 5: point out that you should also take stock of your
Speaker 5: own life and appreciate what you have, I'll say, yes,
Speaker 5: that's yeah.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 2: Do you are you open about your own political views
Speaker 2: or do you just because I you know, I was
Speaker 2: thinking about this, I just assumed you were a libertarian
Speaker 2: because we were on a trip with a bunch of libertarians.
Speaker 4: A bunch of libertarians here.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know your political leanings.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't identify myself as a conservative or a
Speaker 5: liberal commentator.
Speaker 4: I will say that.
Speaker 5: Identifying yourself as a libertarian is probably the most sato
Speaker 5: masochistic thing that you could do, because it just obligates
Speaker 5: you to have a lot of conversations with libertarians about
Speaker 5: what kind of libertarian you are, which, having just left
Speaker 5: their convention two weeks ago, I think I'm full for
Speaker 5: the next several decades of discussing exactly the font size
Speaker 5: of the L.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I talk openly about my opinions on issues. But I
Speaker 5: do think that there is a real worth that I
Speaker 5: can give to people by not identifying as a political
Speaker 5: as a conservative or liberal commentator, because what I want
Speaker 5: to do.
Speaker 4: Is just be correct on how I'm seeing the race.
Speaker 5: And if I say, oh, here's my opinion on or
Speaker 5: like I'm taking I'm looking at this from a conservative perspective. Right,
Speaker 5: then I'm not providing to conservative listeners because conservative listeners
Speaker 5: want when something crazy happens, they want to listen to
Speaker 5: me and trust that I can read the polls, trust
Speaker 5: that I can see what fundraising is and say, yeah,
Speaker 5: this did matter, or I'm not If I say I'm liberal,
Speaker 5: I'm not really serving my liberal listeners because when something happens,
Speaker 5: they want to come to me and say, hey, does
Speaker 5: this matter? Because that's the number one thing I get
Speaker 5: from either side is thing happens? Does this matter?
Speaker 4: And I want to preserve my ability to do that
Speaker 4: for the listenership.
Speaker 2: Because lots of podcasters, I would say that don't say
Speaker 2: what their political leanings are. But then you just know.
Speaker 2: And I find it interesting that I don't know yours.
Speaker 2: Like again, I just assumed you were, you know, cookie libertarian.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I I think.
Speaker 2: You know, And I'm very i feel like I identify as
Speaker 2: a conservative, but I'm very aligned with libertarians.
Speaker 3: They are my people. I go to their parties. They
Speaker 3: are a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: So yes, you know, oh yeah and me too.
Speaker 5: I I probably the closest I've ever come to identifying
Speaker 5: is anything personally would have been a libertarian when I
Speaker 5: was in my twenties and I was first reading Reason
Speaker 5: magazine the way that everybody gets into the libertarian drug.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I will say also that one of my favorite memories
Speaker 5: of that trip that we took down to the border
Speaker 5: happened literally on the plane there where we were all
Speaker 5: on the same flight down to McAllen and I was
Speaker 5: with Andrew Heaton, who does the funny videos for Reason,
Speaker 5: and you just pointed it, just said Brett Kavanaugh, Bret Cavanall.
Speaker 3: He had no idea what I was talking about.
Speaker 2: Like, so the joke is, you know, he had played
Speaker 2: Brett Cavanaugh in a video. So I have I have kids,
Speaker 2: they are fourteen, eleven, and eight, and like I want
Speaker 2: to get them into politics or at least understanding like
Speaker 2: political sides, and Reason makes it very easy. They have
Speaker 2: a lot of these very funny videos that explain a
Speaker 2: lot of issues very clearly. I don't always agree with them,
Speaker 2: but in general I just enjoy their content. And so
Speaker 2: my kids had seen him as Brett Kavanaugh for a
Speaker 2: long time. We watched that video a few times. It's
Speaker 2: really funny, but he doesn't identify himself as Brett kataw
Speaker 2: He doesn't walk around being like I am Brett Kavanaugh,
Speaker 2: but I see him, so he was like where. I
Speaker 2: was like, Brett Kavanaugh is on my flight, and he
Speaker 2: was like, where where is he?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I will say that walking around the Libertarian convention
Speaker 5: with Andrew Heaton is like walking around with Mickey.
Speaker 3: Mouse as a superstar.
Speaker 5: Right, Oh yeah, everybody, he might be the most popular
Speaker 5: person there, and when you get more than ten Libertarians
Speaker 5: in a group, one person being popular becomes a challenge
Speaker 5: because there's constant infighting.
Speaker 4: But everybody appreciates.
Speaker 5: Heat and doing stuff for reasons, So it was definitely
Speaker 5: very funny.
Speaker 2: I went to conference a few years ago, nieces right,
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure I was saying it right, but I
Speaker 2: was with Michael Malice. Oh my god, that was like
Speaker 2: being with I don't even know Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3: He was like he was mobbed. I was like, you're famous.
Speaker 3: Who even knew?
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, yeah, he's uh he is definitely he's got.
Speaker 5: If he were there, he would have definitely had a
Speaker 5: lot of a lot of attentions as well. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, like, i I'm very glad, I'm always very happy.
Speaker 5: I'm secretly very happy when people can't peg where I
Speaker 5: come from a politicistrating.
Speaker 4: I think it is it's actively hindered my career.
Speaker 5: Really will say that I do think that if I
Speaker 5: were even if I just did exactly what I was doing.
Speaker 5: But I said, I'm the conservative who believes X or
Speaker 5: I'm the liberal who believes why that I probably would
Speaker 5: do better. But I don't think I would feel good
Speaker 5: because I don't really want to identify myself as either.
Speaker 2: I have to tell you, in that graduate program that
Speaker 2: is the most expensive.
Speaker 3: Mistake I've ever made.
Speaker 2: They told us that you can't be an independent, like
Speaker 2: you have to be a Republican or Democrat. And I
Speaker 2: was the only Republican leading person in my class. Obviously
Speaker 2: it was NYU.
Speaker 4: So but there was one liberty universe. Yeah, there was.
Speaker 3: One girl and she was independent.
Speaker 2: And they were like, you got to pick a stop Like, yeah, right.
Speaker 4: Now, knock it off. There's there's no money there.
Speaker 5: And that's that's the funny thing is, Yeah, I've talked
Speaker 5: to a friend of mine who is flirted with the
Speaker 5: idea of running for office, and she's very much an independent,
Speaker 5: and I was like, well, you got to pick you
Speaker 5: got to be the conservative leading Democrat or the liberal
Speaker 5: leaning Republican or yeah whatever, you guys.
Speaker 4: Know somewhere in the center. You got to pick one
Speaker 4: because that's where.
Speaker 5: The money comes in, that's where you get a ID,
Speaker 5: that's where you know, and just nobody.
Speaker 2: Has the time to figure out what you stand for.
Speaker 3: I mean they barely.
Speaker 2: People barely do it. Like with candidates that they that
Speaker 2: they know everything about. They're not going to research an
Speaker 2: independent candidate and see which issues which size.
Speaker 5: It's just I will say that that's one of the
Speaker 5: things that I very much have a a a very
Speaker 5: serious opinion on. In terms of journalisms. They do think
Speaker 5: that journalism is draft drifted into activism from a reporter level.
Speaker 5: You know, columnists are always going to be bringing the spice.
Speaker 5: That's fine, that's what there's there's a carved out niche
Speaker 5: for it. But reporting has either gotten activists in that
Speaker 5: you're searching out activist positions or lazy in that you
Speaker 5: are just taking copy pasta from an activist.
Speaker 4: Point of view and pretending that it's the news.
Speaker 5: And that's one thing that I want to if I
Speaker 5: do have a principled stand it is it's good to
Speaker 5: be able to say you don't know where I'm coming from,
Speaker 5: because at the very least you know that you can't
Speaker 5: discount what I'm saying. And there's a real value of
Speaker 5: that that I think has been eroded in journalism.
Speaker 2: I really love that, and I think that everybody should
Speaker 2: be listening to your podcast, Politics, Politics, Politics, and here
Speaker 2: with your best tip for my listeners on how they
Speaker 2: can improve their lives. This is a podcast about life
Speaker 2: and not about politics.
Speaker 3: Even though we.
Speaker 2: Touched on it a little bit, touch, yeah, touch, it
Speaker 2: veers this way sometimes, you know.
Speaker 5: So I will say this, like many people, I hit
Speaker 5: a certain level of rock bottom emotionally and physically during
Speaker 5: the lockdowns. I was in I know, you're in Florida now, right,
Speaker 5: but you're in New York. Similarly, I was in the
Speaker 5: Bay Area. I was in Oakland, so places that were
Speaker 5: very right. You know. It wasn't that you couldn't leave
Speaker 5: your It was just that society had decided to shut down,
Speaker 5: so even if you left your house, you couldn't really
Speaker 5: go anywhere.
Speaker 4: At that point. And I was.
Speaker 5: Overweight, drinking way too much, and very very sad. I
Speaker 5: had fallen off a scooter drunk and broken my hand.
Speaker 5: I just felt like, all right, we got to start
Speaker 5: making some decisions here that are going to like we
Speaker 5: can control what we're doing.
Speaker 4: Let's go forward. And the number one thing, the number
Speaker 4: one thing that I found sleep.
Speaker 5: If you are in a bad situation, any you want
Speaker 5: to improve anything in your life, and you do not
Speaker 5: go to bed at the same time and wake up
Speaker 5: at the same time, Like.
Speaker 4: That's what else?
Speaker 5: Because that makes so I started working out more. But
Speaker 5: before when I didn't have a set go to sleep,
Speaker 5: wake up schedule, it's harder to work out because your
Speaker 5: body doesn't know when everything. Everything gets built from the
Speaker 5: foundation of sleep, diet, your exercise, your productivity, everything starts.
Speaker 5: This is the ground level foundation of trying to get
Speaker 5: better sleep. Now I'm talking to you now, my firstborn
Speaker 5: daughter will arrive at some point in August. This will
Speaker 5: probably be going out the window with Yeah, I will
Speaker 5: probably not.
Speaker 4: Be able to manage my sleep in the way that I.
Speaker 3: Was comes back.
Speaker 2: Scare you it really People make too much of a
Speaker 2: deal about those early few months. Yes, you don't sleep
Speaker 2: for a few months, but then it all kind of
Speaker 2: evens out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm holding on loosely.
Speaker 5: That's that's really my philosophy throughout everybody that I've talked to.
Speaker 5: But yeah, sleep, sleep is the number one thing if
Speaker 5: you If you can figure that out, you've gone a
Speaker 5: long way toward making everything easier, making all the stuff
Speaker 5: that we think of as hard, including diet and exercise
Speaker 5: and productivity.
Speaker 4: It makes it easier when you have your sleep on
Speaker 4: a rail.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go nap right after this.
Speaker 2: So he is justin Robert Young his Politics, Politics, Politics podcast.
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Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on, Justin, Thank you
Speaker 2: so much.
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