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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices. I'm Erica and

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Speaker 1: I'm Mila. And Happy Pride Month, y'all. Happy Pride Month.

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Speaker 2: You know, from a by fun bitch and a former

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Speaker 2: lesbian pansexual, we'd like to wish everyone a happy do

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Speaker 2: whatever the fuck you want month.

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Speaker 1: Whether you're queer or fairy, it is.

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Speaker 2: Your month to celebrate whatever the fuck makes you feel good.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling, Erica, I feel good. I'm good.

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Speaker 3: I woke up, I said some affirmations to myself. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I woke up on the right side of the bed.

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Speaker 2: Today, amen, because nobody had time for the other side

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Speaker 2: of the bed. I'm really excited. We have a special

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Speaker 2: guest here today.

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Speaker 1: Hi, ra Hi, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Author Mama advocate throwing there Nigga Bitch of the Year.

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Speaker 1: Niga Bitch of the Year. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: She's also friends with one of our tribe members, Miss

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Speaker 3: Wright's Way, Ashley. Listen to that episode, you know, Ashley

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Speaker 3: said nigga bitch like a lot, and I was stressed.

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Speaker 1: We were stress. I was stressed, literally my booty. She

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Speaker 1: kept clenching every time. She said. I was like, look

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Speaker 1: this is okay. Are you sure?

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Speaker 3: And then Ra came in today and she said it,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, yeah, actually says that.

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Speaker 1: She's like, no, I coined that term, and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm humbled, grateful to be here, and yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: the language should be, you know, fucked up like niga bitch.

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Speaker 1: We're here mask identified women if you don't know, but

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Speaker 1: you know what nigga bitch is like.

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Speaker 2: But now I've evolved into pan sexual, which means I

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Speaker 2: like people.

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Speaker 1: So that's it. If you're a person, I might like you,

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Speaker 1: I might be attracted to you.

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Speaker 3: Beware, So on the topic of just you know it,

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Speaker 3: be pride, What are your pronouns like? What should we

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Speaker 3: properly be referring to you as?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? She? They them, I do make it easy

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Speaker 1: because and this is a very sensitive conversation piece for

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that don't identify completely with the binary.

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Speaker 1: But she I'm a mom. I love being a mom,

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Speaker 1: a loving a woman. To be honest with you, I'm

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Speaker 1: just fluid, very fluid in my lifestyle. So that's where

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Speaker 1: the they and the them comes. But also I'm not

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Speaker 1: sensitive about any of it. So if you were to

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Speaker 1: mis ginger me, I wouldn't give a fuck. She keep

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Speaker 1: calling me matter of fact, you want to call me,

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Speaker 1: keep paying me, paying me, calling you call me the

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Speaker 1: fuck you want to call it, saying like so you know,

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Speaker 1: but not everybody is that way. It took a long

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Speaker 1: time to get to this point.

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Speaker 2: You know, thank you, because Erica and I are not

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Speaker 2: professionals and we might fuck up, So bear with us

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Speaker 2: if you're listening, if you are here, if you fuck

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Speaker 2: it up. Erica's like in the bathroom, she's like, she

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Speaker 2: came in and I said, hey, girl, hey, and I

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Speaker 2: was like, oh no, I'm my bitch.

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Speaker 1: I told you no, bitches, let's just say hey.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know, just guide me, let

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Speaker 3: me know.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to learn.

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Speaker 3: But it takes time because I've learned something else my

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Speaker 3: whole life, and you know, I want to be intentional

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Speaker 3: and I want to be you know, respectful, and not

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Speaker 3: just use that as an excuse like, well this is

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Speaker 3: what i've been now, so how fuck you? You know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, Like some people might do, but it is

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Speaker 3: I feel like it is. I understand that there's such

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Speaker 3: sensitivity in the pronouns. And even my friend, my friend Romo,

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Speaker 3: she works in nonprofit and she has a good amount

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Speaker 3: really good about it now, obviously because she's been in

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Speaker 3: can get really really heated when kind of like navigating

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Speaker 3: in that space and unlearning, you know, the way we've

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Speaker 3: been taught to refer to people.

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Speaker 1: So sure, absolutely, And I would never want to invalidate

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Speaker 1: anybody's experience because some people truly struggle with this on

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Speaker 1: a day to day I'm just not one of them,

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Speaker 1: nigga bitches, you know. So with Abby and said, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that we all just need to be understanding.

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Speaker 1: You can tell when somebody is trying to be understanding

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Speaker 1: recently and that opened up a huge platform plethora of

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Speaker 1: different conversations that people were having and the spectrum of

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Speaker 3: And wait, what was the video? I need to know

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Speaker 1: I did a ad for her a firm. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I've never shirt on and it freaks some niggas out.

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Speaker 1: People thought there was a filter. People didn't know. And

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Speaker 1: for people that don't know, I have double bilateral misectomy

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Speaker 1: two years ago and not for cancer, but by choice.

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Speaker 1: It was cosmetic. My insurance paid for it. I cut

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Speaker 1: my titties off. I love it. My shirts fit the

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Speaker 1: way I love to fit. And to me, it's a

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Speaker 1: regular conversation piece, just as if a woman wanted to

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Speaker 1: go get breast implants. Nobody's talking shit about a bitch

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Speaker 1: putting silicon in her titties, you know, in her chest.

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Speaker 1: But I cut them off and I'm like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: you're crazy and mental health and psychotic and all this

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Speaker 1: other shit, and I'm like, okay, I love you too.

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Speaker 1: What do you really want to say? Because I'm here

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Speaker 1: and we can talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Right Meanwhile, like you said, people are filling up their

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Speaker 3: whole face, their bodies, their booties, all.

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Speaker 1: Types of Nobody's blinking and they're fine. They're fine. They

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Speaker 1: don't have nothing. There's no mental health. I could never

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Speaker 1: imagine going out and going out my way to like

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Speaker 1: say something negative to somebody that's changing their body. Like

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Speaker 1: it's just so weird to me That's why when people

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Speaker 1: say that I just like I get still and get grounded.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you're suffering because I'm happy as fun. Like

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Speaker 1: this flat chest is getting licked on and sucked on

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Speaker 1: and all ties a while. You know what I'm saying matters.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know I gotta put that on a shirt.

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Speaker 2: This flat chest is getting sucked on, the licked on. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'd like to get that shit. Okay, Well, before we

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Speaker 2: start going into all the learning and unlearning that we

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Speaker 2: gonna share with us, let us do our daily tearot guards.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. And we've already pulled one. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's six of cups. Six of six of cups,

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Speaker 1: the six of cups.

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Speaker 2: The gifts they bring are balance and harmony through the

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Speaker 2: return to inner sources, sentimentality, kindness, memories, and innocence. Think

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Speaker 2: of the simple, innocent pleasures in your life and feel blessed.

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Speaker 2: The only difference between work and play is attitude. I

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Speaker 2: know that's right. Live in the moment, remember the beautiful

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Speaker 2: moments and lessons learned in the past.

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Speaker 1: Dream of the future.

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Speaker 3: This you know, I gotta go back to Biddy Taro

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Speaker 3: because I feel like Biddy Taro is not paying us,

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Speaker 1: Or we should be paying them because we used to

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Speaker 3: Tarot's description of this too, because I think it does

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Speaker 3: you know, it comes. It's very close to what I

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Speaker 3: think we're gonna be discussing today, which is, you know, parenthood, childhood,

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Speaker 3: all the things. And according to Biddy, it says that

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Speaker 3: the six of Cups upright is revisiting the past childhood

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Speaker 3: memories in a sense and joy, and that the six

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Speaker 3: you said, to the happy memories from your past, whether

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Speaker 3: as a child, teenager, or young adult. You may simply

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Speaker 3: be revisiting these memories in your mind, or you may

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Speaker 3: or reconnect with an old buddy, a teenage sweetheart, or

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Speaker 3: a past lover may turn up again. These connections bring

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Speaker 3: occasion to explore whether you still have a lot in

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Speaker 3: It sounds like a very positive card. Obviously, not everyone's

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Speaker 2: Weren't positive, I think it's we're really a time of

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Speaker 2: you know, my favorite, my favorite term right now, inner

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Speaker 2: child healing. That was a Debbie you gotta do the

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Speaker 2: inner child healing. And I think this is the season

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Speaker 2: I don't know what episode about this, or maybe it

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Speaker 2: And I just feel like that card speaks to that.

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Speaker 2: And if anyone who's listening is finding challenges in their

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Speaker 1: Revisit and heal those things.

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Speaker 2: Maybe talk to your parents, call your mom, tell her

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Speaker 2: that shit she did that you didn't like. Amen, And

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Speaker 2: today's affirmation of the day comes from our guest, Raw,

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Speaker 2: what is our affirmation, Dear.

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Speaker 1: Our affirmation? What do we say? We said we are

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Speaker 1: grounded and rooted in a salad foundation.

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Speaker 2: Sound grounded and rooted in a solid foundation. Before we started,

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Speaker 2: we talked about again visualizing when you wake up out

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Speaker 1: Roots to the ground.

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Speaker 2: And so that throughout the day you can continuously have

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Speaker 2: we all know shit's gonna happen, you're rooted in whatever

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I love that. Yeah, So, Raw, you are

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Speaker 1: a mama that I am. You're a boy mom.

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Speaker 2: but we have girls, so we're never like, we don't

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Speaker 2: get that many boy moms on the show.

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Speaker 1: I don't meet very many boy moms, So if anybody's

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Speaker 1: looking for a twelve year old, sweet, shy, brilliant playdate, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely in the valley looking for that, because it's

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Speaker 2: Right and good like good, I assume like other good boys,

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Speaker 1: So no, mine's fucked up. So I'm just chucking, but no,

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Speaker 2: Twelve and thirteen is a hard age that pubescent shit

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Speaker 2: Like me and Erica just revisited some of our journals

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Speaker 2: and the horrishness that we participated in our early teenage years.

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Speaker 2: So I'm really scared to have a teenage child, but

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Speaker 1: So that's my question too, is like, you know, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my baby daddy, Which is so wid to hear

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Speaker 1: Sure with the lack of marriage probably yeah, wed lock, no,

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Speaker 2: Actually, I'm very well aware of what you're saying. Totally

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Speaker 1: But you know, I can count on one hand how

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Speaker 2: You know what was making you have sex with them?

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Speaker 2: It's just like it's my homie, let's try it.

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Speaker 3: At this point your mom. You were out at fifteen,

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Speaker 1: At this point, my mom's like, you know, thinking like okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: I knew it. I don't know you, Jesus, I knew

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Speaker 1: I asked my mom. I said, what what am I

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Speaker 2: I mean she had about three days, right, Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: That was probably the biggest pressure. I was like, oh

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Speaker 1: Well, it's called them dick dikes. Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Dick decks, dykes. Okay, let me stop saying dikes. Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 2: Nika bitch just don't want to admit when they like dick,

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Speaker 1: Come to find out, I was getting dick on the side.

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Speaker 2: Niga bitches. I had a tomboyfriend and I was like,

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Speaker 1: Just fuck with Asia.

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Speaker 2: So when I knew I was bisexual, but I went

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Speaker 2: Oh lord Jesus. It took me from a little bit

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Speaker 2: this there used to be in like an LBGG a

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Speaker 2: lesbian meeting at Spelman called I don't know why they

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Speaker 3: This reminds me of that Dave Schappelle's kit in the Car.

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely so accurate. Oh no, you're completely accurate. It's

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Speaker 1: It was like you had to pick where you had

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Speaker 1: to be, like, to fit this binary that you supposedly

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00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 1: are trying to, you know, get away from and coming

433
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,400
Speaker 1: into coming into no I mean, I'm like, I'm issy

434
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,679
Speaker 1: coming into rejecting these labels and finding myself because I've

435
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,639
Speaker 1: always been very fluid. Even with the nigga bitch in Detroit,

436
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 1: I was still very like soft stem. I was a stem.

437
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,199
Speaker 2: A softer snigga bitch is called a stem and the

438
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 2: better term for niggad bitches stud.

439
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 3: I feel like on this episode, I just need like

440
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 3: terms and the definitions got that David.

441
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 1: Stem a nigga bitch that's soft, but the stems would

442
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 1: get all the bitches because a stem was safe. A stem,

443
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 1: you might have a little bring that stem home to

444
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 1: your mama. She might not think anything. She might not

445
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 1: know you fucking that stem know they're safe. I just

446
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 1: got a lot of bitches in Detroit. I bet you

447
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:54,920
Speaker 1: did I look at I said, I could tell you

448
00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 1: I love a STEM. But coming into the link, I

449
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 1: think becoming more acclimated, educated with the language, no realizing like,

450
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,199
Speaker 1: I'm not really like an ag or a stud either,

451
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 1: because like is an aggressive which is a New York term.

452
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,959
Speaker 2: It's an aggressive female. So you can maybe show up

453
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 2: looking more feminine, but you.

454
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 1: Your role is more dominant. You're an ag. That's a

455
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 1: New York term, like house like the balls, and that's

456
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 1: and that's when I started learning those these terms. I

457
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: was in a couple of houses actually, like around eighteen

458
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 1: nineteen years old, which yeah, I was in a house

459
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,719
Speaker 1: of Da Vinci and I was also in element Houses

460
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 1: are so like Poe so well, if you guys don't know,

461
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 1: houses basically are a community of people that come together

462
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: for gender fluid and gender not conforming, trans gay individuals.

463
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 1: And it originated for people that didn't have any place

464
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 1: to go, whether they're astracized by their families and they

465
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,199
Speaker 1: were out in the streets. So you have like a

466
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: house mother, which often would be a trans woman, or

467
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 1: like a house father would often be a trans male,

468
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 1: whether they pre opter have actually had their surgery or not,

469
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 1: and they were taking their children and it'd be a

470
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: place for refuge, a community, peace, food shelter off the street.

471
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: And then on Fridays they turn up and start, you know, and.

472
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 2: Then they compete against each other's houses and weird categories

473
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 2: like best athletic boy, face best.

474
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 1: Like it's like all these weird categories.

475
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 2: And then like walk, sex sirens, like all these beautiful

476
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 2: costumes and face dress.

477
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Speaker 1: I've been to a few of those. I'm dreaming of it.

478
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,360
Speaker 1: A lot of drugs there. It goes on all night,

479
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: never ends, but it's really handsome here. I heard there's

480
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 1: there's really good. Yeah we'll have to talk about it.

481
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah we should. I know, And I know

482
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: a couple of people that are that walk, so I

483
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: have not gone to any, but everything's opening about you. Walk.

484
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: I did walk. I just posted I said if anybody

485
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: has any pictures for me circa two thousand, two thousand

486
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: and one, walking business stead with this big ass fucking

487
00:22:55,480 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey shoulder path take my booms down. No titties

488
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 1: for real. So I was always had two sports bras

489
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: and I and I was good but just looking ridiculous.

490
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: It is an interesting culture, I'll say it is.

491
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: When I first became a lesbian and I started going

492
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: to gate clubs, I was like, can I.

493
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: Sign up for this for the rest of my life?

494
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: These bitches love to slow dance and karaoke to slow

495
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: dam songs. I'm like, every time I went to a

496
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 2: motherfucking lesbian party there was a performance. They weren't really

497
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 2: performing though their lip syncing and they was body rolling,

498
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 2: and I just wasn't sure if I could sign up

499
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 2: for a lifetime of these type of party.

500
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: New Windows in Detroit Palladium, Detroit. I used to perform

501
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 1: and lip sync my life away to every Nelly song.

502
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: I had abandoned all my motherfucker Could you see the

503
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: Nelly a little bit I had abandoned on my motherfuck

504
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: I I'm trying to tell you and me and my nigga,

505
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: my other nigga, bitch Tay Freaky. They did usher and

506
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: we had collas.

507
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 3: We'd be out there like shit versus yes, and the

508
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 3: bitches would go crazy for those performances.

509
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 2: A few times in Atlanta, Miami. Yeah, I just want

510
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: to shout out to Club Miami. If you are in

511
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 2: the gay community at any point in the last fifteen years,

512
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 2: you were there Club Miami.

513
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 3: Wait, okay, so go back, because so you found out

514
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 3: you were pregnant.

515
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: Was this mama told you? Was told.

516
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 3: She said either gonna be a mama or she gonna

517
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 3: go to heaven or he gonna go to heaven. So

518
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: then what was the process of you then telling your

519
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 3: friend or your baby daddy, your girlfriend?

520
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,199
Speaker 1: Why not my girlfriend yet? No? Not this girl? Well

521
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: the girlfriend right, but by the time I didn't have

522
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: her until after I kicked under the curtain. So he

523
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: was going through all types of shit. Mind you already

524
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 1: had like two kids, and he was like going through

525
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: like an eviction. I had to put a shit out there.

526
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 1: But it's true, and so I try to, like, you know,

527
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: help out and like look like I know the week

528
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: at co parent, I do not want to be with you,

529
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: but i'd also don't want to like see you like

530
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: out on the streets. That's that's the pice he's in me.

531
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm an impact. Yeah, a bunch of water signs up here,

532
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 1: and that's my my moon Okay. Yeah. So I was like,

533
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: all right, nigga, like I have a two bedroom. You

534
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: know you can stay with me. We can try to

535
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: figure this shit out because at least I know where

536
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: you're at, and when I'm also in college, you can

537
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 1: help me out with the kid. This niggas ain't shit.

538
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: Like just niggas creeped into my bed at night I'm

539
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: pregnant and then creeped into my bed and violated like

540
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: like me, like and gets in bed with me, and

541
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: like I just felt like all my skin just crawl

542
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: and I'm just and mind you I'm pregnant, and.

543
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 3: Especially that too, I mean because for me, when I

544
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 3: was pregnant, I was the last thing I wanted.

545
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: Nothing.

546
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 3: I don't get the fuck away from me, Like my

547
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 3: body is confused.

548
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 1: I fee these little like feet running on the inside

549
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: of my stomach if like some alien versus predator shit,

550
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: Like I feel annoying, like and you're a nigga and

551
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: I don't want you on me an you ain't got

552
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: no money and I might out of this baby, so

553
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: it's like, what the fuck are you doing? Bro? And

554
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: that's when I was like Noah. And then when I

555
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: put that boundary down, he got weird, he got super

556
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: weird and super like you know, fella back and I

557
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: wasn't about to beg or push anybody for any I said,

558
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm moving to LA in like ten months, so figure

559
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: it out. If not, I'm out. And that's what I did,

560
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: and we've been out here ever since. Do you guys

561
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 1: have a good relationship now, I don't know what that means. Well,

562
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: so I know where he's at. So he bet he's

563
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: not a part of his son's life. No, absolutely no,

564
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: So he's not shit? Well you know, no, you can't.

565
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, okay, so I can judge him, No,

566
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 2: I can judge him at this present moment. If you

567
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 2: ain't a part of your kid's life, if you listen

568
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 2: and you ain't a part of your kid's life, you

569
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: know where the fuck they at, and you ain't a

570
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 2: part of him, You're not shit.

571
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: Everyone's on a journey, you know. I know. And this

572
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: is what I say to my son because this is

573
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: a real conversation piece because I'm not like bitter with him.

574
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: We never had anything. It was not romantic, so there's

575
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: no like whatever, Like if you really wanted to, like,

576
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: you know, come and pay me that twenty five grand

577
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: of arrears that he owes me and like, you know,

578
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: like jump back in and try to do something for sure,

579
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: my nigga, Like let's have a conversation, like I know

580
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: where you're at, you know where I'm at. It is

581
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: what it is. But what I don't do is ever

582
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: talk bad about him in front of myself. No, no like

583
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: or even like, and even he might want to, because

584
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: he's a conscious twelve year old that knows that dad

585
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: is not there and has other children and he's looking

586
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: at this situation like why why didn't he get it together?

587
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: What's up with that? And having to have those conversations

588
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: with him and be honest, I'm like, you know what,

589
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: like I want you to forgive him, please, I need

590
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: you to forgive him. And that's starting that now so

591
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: that by the time he does get old and really proud,

592
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: like how my mom told me I was adopted early on,

593
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: where I didn't understand it, and then by the time

594
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: I was in third grade, I was like, oh, I'm adopted,

595
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: this normal versus being I'm adopted at seventeen years old,

596
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: like I'm fucked up. You know. It's like maybe one

597
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: day you guys will have a relationship, and I would

598
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: love that because I braise you to be a brilliant

599
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: young man. And if he wants to jump on the

600
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: bandwagon and you can have a relationship with him. I

601
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: know I did my job regardless, but you know, I

602
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of times because it is that

603
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: it would be easy for me to be like that nigga.

604
00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: Shit fucked that nigga's little dick ass. Like you know what, Chazz,

605
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: if you're watching this, pay me my money, nig and.

606
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, God, bless you bro,

607
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 2: God bless you Chas.

608
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: She's a good woman. She wasn't even talking shit about

609
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: you chat.

610
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 3: What was your birthing experience? Like, did you have a

611
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 3: natural birth? Sea section?

612
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: It's so at a sea section and it was actually

613
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 1: not expected because I wanted to have natural birth. I

614
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: really thought I was gonna do like the no epidural.

615
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm a nigga, bitch. We haven't we

616
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: popping this baby. I'm natural, you got this, I'm you

617
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I was squat right, squatt push right,

618
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm little with the baby, gonna be little too, you

619
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: know what? I'm saying, like little lowie I was doing

620
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: cart was on the beach, like eight months pregnant. You

621
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I gained eleven pounds?

622
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 3: What?

623
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: How the fuck? One thirty one I'm pissed. Yeah, one

624
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: thirty one was my Wow. I went in for my

625
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: thirty How many pounds did you? Probably fourteen?

626
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: No, I gained thirty thirty pounds, thirty to thirty five pounds.

627
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: But literally after the six weeks was up, I was

628
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 2: back to ninety eight. I was like ninety six. I

629
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: had lost two pounds extra. It was literally just my

630
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: belly musta literally weighed thirty pounds because how much was it,

631
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: how much the baby was she was she came early.

632
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: She was like five pounds twelve ounces, eleven or eighty.

633
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: See how that works.

634
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: Well, my daughter was six pounds eleven ounces, and I

635
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: gained seventy pounds, So I don't want to talk about it.

636
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: Seventy pounds. Oh yeah, girl. I was eating for four

637
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: as you should. Shit, I would do it differently.

638
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: I was in pain. Towards the end. I was just

639
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: being just gluttonous. It was just a lot.

640
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: Because at the end, it's just like fuck, my life.

641
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: Are you coming? Are not? The end is not? Oh

642
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: yeah that is not good. Yeah. He was taken early.

643
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: Actually I was just full term thirty six weeks went in.

644
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: They were like, oh, let's do it aminosentisis. You're losing weight.

645
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: And I said okay, and they're like, oh, there's joking.

646
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Speaker 1: So you had the baby, you had a scerian. Yeah,

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742
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743
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Speaker 1: was the hospital the whole time. Yeah, I had all

745
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746
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747
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748
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749
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Speaker 1: He's like, you know, maybe you could have send me

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Speaker 1: some pictures. I'm like, Chazz has he ever spoken to him? No.

751
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Speaker 2: Wow, so interesting that he still checks in occasionally but

752
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753
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Speaker 1: Number, let me call. Well, he's not gonna he doesn't

755
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Speaker 1: have access to call him, Like no, I means, say,

756
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Speaker 1: can I want to call him through you? And I wouldn't.

757
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't allow that because there's not enough stability there

758
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Speaker 1: and you're not about to get my son hope, So

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Speaker 1: you're yeah, that's not fair and I have to like

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Speaker 1: be protective over that. And it's not even about the money,

761
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Speaker 1: because I think his child support order is like embarrassing,

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Speaker 1: it's not even like what So it's not even about that.

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Speaker 1: It's like the principle like I could never imagine not

766
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Speaker 3: I don't I don't know how that works, knowing that

768
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769
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Speaker 3: what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Like anything? Missing out on so many beautiful amazing moment

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Speaker 1: I am and not to divulge into this, but I

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Speaker 1: that point is like you met him. I met every Yeah, everybody,

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Speaker 1: I've met. Everybody's like both my parents, I met all

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Speaker 1: their other children beautiful you know humans. And your mom

782
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Speaker 1: was a pimp too, No, my mom My father was

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Speaker 1: Because I feel like this nigga bitch really comes from

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Speaker 1: my biological family. If I was like, oh it all

788
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Speaker 1: makes sense, well, I'll be a street rat, I would

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Speaker 1: you know, completely night and day, you know, and God

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795
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Speaker 1: Environment really does matter. Facts, absolutely, yeah. Facts.

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Speaker 3: So how as you know a mother, how have you

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Speaker 3: But obviously speaking of just being you know, upfront about

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Speaker 1: But how do you do that as a parent, So

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Speaker 1: just the same way that you would with heterosexual stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's just that I just teach love, you know, and

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815
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821
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822
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823
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824
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826
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Speaker 1: But if he wants to wear a dress, you can

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Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, some girls like girls

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Speaker 1: do you think about that? He's like about what I was, like,

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839
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying is this we gotta like neutralize these conversations.

848
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849
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Speaker 1: I was rather non existent. And that's most people's most

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Speaker 1: My mom was a bird cabbage chit cabbage ye, No, no,

860
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 1: that's how naive. Oh, my god, I went behind the ears.

861
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: They were in Mississippi, right, you know.

862
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: I think also a big misconception too, is like being

863
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: a parent that's not gender conforming, or if you are

864
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 2: gay or fluid or whatever your sexuality is, that raising

865
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 2: a child and being transparent about your gender, you know,

866
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: whatever your sexuality is, that your kid is automatically also

867
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 2: going to be gay, And like, that's so dumb and stupid.

868
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: You know, because straight people create gay kids all the time.

869
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: Like that's a fact. You find gay kids their parents

870
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: are just as fucking straight as fucking us faggots. We're

871
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: not creating gay kids. We're creating sensitive, good human beings

872
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: that are more understanding to the construct or the lack

873
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: of construct of gender. So my son got a vocabulary

874
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: about certain shit that the average kid is not going

875
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: because mama cut her titties off. And he was right there, well, yeah,

876
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: how is how did he feel about that? Was? Were

877
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: you like, this is what I'm gonna do? And he's like,

878
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: I never when I say nigga bit, she'd be like, mom, like,

879
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: you can't say that. I'm not supposed to say that.

880
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: He gets tickled, he's so tickled by my language he

881
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: wasn't surprised. I don't know, maybe maybe because we were

882
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: just so desensitized because everything is just so normal in

883
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: my household, you know, except like talking back and like

884
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: doing wild like white kid shit. But like as far

885
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: as like I told him, Hey, you know, I'm gonna

886
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: have the surgery because I want to feel better in

887
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: my body. I want my clothes to fit the way

888
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: that I want them to fit. And I work at

889
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: this mediocre job and have great insurance and I want

890
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: to use it. So like, what do you think about that?

891
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: Diould do? What makes you happy? You know? Are you

892
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: gonna be okay? What kind of surgery is it? You know?

893
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: Is it?

894
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 3: This?

895
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: Is it that kids don't give a fuck? Fru No,

896
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: it's beautiful.

897
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: You know when you give your kids like you have

898
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: these honest conversations with them and you really just leave

899
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 3: space for them, they are able to decide so much

900
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 3: more for themselves, like him deciding that like yeah, no,

901
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 3: I'm I mean he's still there's still it's still up

902
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: for debate, like however he chooses to identify or whatever.

903
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: But he's like, nah, that's not appealing to me, you know,

904
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: And for someone who is like like you said, like

905
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 3: these sis parents, they might be like, oh no, he's

906
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: for sure going to be gay, Like absolutely, there's no

907
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 3: point like she has, you know, these types of people

908
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 3: around him.

909
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: He's exposing him.

910
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 3: To think she's exposing him to things that he never

911
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 3: would have been exposed to. And now he knows too

912
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 3: much because it's that's like the always the thing is

913
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: like kids knowing too much. It's like, so we want

914
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: them to know that little.

915
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: We want them to know too little. Wait, what about

916
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: the ones that like get like Noble preachpin is at

917
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: like eight years old.

918
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a big thing. I feel like in

919
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: the black community that we hear a lot. I think

920
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: there's such a taboo in talking about like shit like

921
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: gender fluidity and like having you know your sexuality first

922
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: of all, those things that are confused and bunched in a lot,

923
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: like how you identify as a gender and what your

924
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: sexuality is.

925
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: But what do you say, because I had this conversation with.

926
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: One of my friends recently, Orlando, what do you say

927
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: about black people in the black community who think that Okay,

928
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 2: first of all, do you think that these are topics

929
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: that we should discuss in schools? Like, I think people

930
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 2: as we become more progressive as a country or as

931
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: a world, and we're having language for these things, they

932
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: them she the pronouns are being pushed in all these

933
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: other areas, like in school and maybe the images we

934
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 2: see in TV and commercials, you may see two dads

935
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: or two moms.

936
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: What do you say about black people.

937
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: Who think that there is a gay agenda being put

938
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: on the black community, because you know, I hear that

939
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: a lot, we all do.

940
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear that all the time too, Like.

941
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: Do you feel like it's something we should talk about

942
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: in schools or they should like have in Disney movies

943
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: or Disney shows.

944
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: I just don't know where the agenda's coming from exactly,

945
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: because gay people have been gay since the beginning of

946
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: gaytum Like, seriously, we go into all cultures of where

947
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: gay like and third genders predate anything from this generation

948
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: little in colonialism, so it's like, you know, in Africa

949
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: and ancient Africa, there's third genders that are praised for

950
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: being and for men that look like women, and even

951
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 1: they're even praised for being with other women. And because

952
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 1: as long as it's fluid, it makes sense, and they're

953
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: praising gun, It's like doesn't really matter. So all this

954
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: like this language and construct of agendas is really just

955
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: for me projection of their own insecurities of the conversation piece,

956
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: because if it doesn't affect you, shouldn't really matter. For

957
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: having a conversation about it doesn't affect you personally.

958
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: I think like that from what I gather from this conversation,

959
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 3: not our conversation, but from this conversation that you know,

960
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 3: people in our community say, is that like it's already

961
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 3: hard enough to be black, right, and then like now

962
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 3: you want to now with there being so much access

963
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 3: and so much information. And I would even say that,

964
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 3: like I think that most people have the I think

965
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: most people are bisexual in my opinion, I think that

966
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 3: scientist no, I think that they are. I think that

967
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: society has, you know, decided gender roles and decided what

968
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: is appropriate, right, yeah, like you know, and people you

969
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: know disagree and be like I there is no I

970
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: have no interest in women. I have no interest in

971
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 3: Then that very well may be true. And I'm not

972
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 3: saying that the heterosexual like people don't exist like through

973
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 3: and through without being told, Like we locked you in

974
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: a room and you had no access to the internet,

975
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,479
Speaker 3: like you chose to be with them, like your son,

976
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 3: you know, for example, like he has all the access

977
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: to everything, and you know, we'll see, but maybe when

978
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 3: he by the time he's really into you know, women

979
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: or men or whoever like that, will know. But I

980
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: feel like a lot of it has to do with

981
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: the fact that, like you know, in the black community,

982
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, they're saying like they say that obviously

983
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 3: it's not they say, it's a fact that it is.

984
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: Hard to be black. But like then also everyone in

985
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: this it's kind of popular to be bisexual now, right,

986
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: Like it's like a trend to be bisexual. Whereas I

987
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: don't necessarily think it's a trend. I think most people

988
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: just have it in them and now they're kind of

989
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: realizing that they have options. But then I also know

990
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: that there's also people that just.

991
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 3: Want to get on the bandwagon and be cool and

992
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: think like, oh, I know, I I do like women

993
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: and you know, but because of that, they're saying like

994
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 3: that the youth having all these options.

995
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: Are so easily impressions, are so easily.

996
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 3: Impressionable, and it's ruining black people. It's ruining you know,

997
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 3: us to already feel empowered enough to be black, but

998
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: now you know, you're throwing in all these other things

999
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 3: that are making it even harder or maybe diluting, Like

1000
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 3: I guess like that is why I feel like men

1001
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: would say it's like.

1002
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: Like the black man diluting the black man. And that's

1003
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: what I've heard even recently on on that post that

1004
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: I posted on because Ashley called me. She facetied me

1005
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: right after she posted the video and she's like, Okay,

1006
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: here come the hotep niggas. How we gonna do what

1007
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: these hotep niggas like, what do you mean? And like

1008
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: the very mean things that they're saying, which is like,

1009
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: like I said, you look at and bring it back

1010
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 1: to them because it's not a personal attack. Secondly, I mean,

1011
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: who's they, you know, projecting the gay because if anything,

1012
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,959
Speaker 1: people right now feel so proud to be transparent because

1013
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: they feel safe to be transparent about being gay. Nobody

1014
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: wants to just I'm speaking lightly, but nobody just fucking

1015
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: wants to be gay to make shit easy harder on themselves.

1016
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: No boy, no black boy in America's like, oh my god,

1017
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: I just want to be a gay black male be

1018
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: called a faggot and be harassed all my fucking life.

1019
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: Nobody wants that. If anything, it's more like hey, like

1020
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: like women, though for girls it's different. It is unfortunately

1021
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: absolutely you know it's acceptable. Yeah, it's acceptible. But then

1022
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: even as okay, okay, So at what point do I

1023
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: put the line down and say, hey, I don't think

1024
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 1: it's cool that you're fetishizing me as a woman because

1025
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: you think it's cool to kiss a girl. And I've

1026
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: had that happen where women like, oh my god, you're

1027
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: so hot. I would totally like, bitch, you're not, and

1028
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: don't touch me. I'll beat your ass Like it's not

1029
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: cause it's like it's it's so acceptable now we're so

1030
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: cool and trendy, and it's like, bitch, get off me.

1031
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: Like last year you weren't fucking with me exactly, and

1032
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 1: I'm still not fucking with you. So it's like, let's

1033
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: let's have boundaries and say, like, my, I don't my

1034
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: sexuality be to fetishized because who I'm fucking has nothing

1035
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: to do with me being gay or not. It's still

1036
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: gonna be private whether I'm sis, straight, fluid, no titty

1037
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: or not. You're not gonna be fucking me. And I

1038
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about my sexuality all the time

1039
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: because it's just a small part of me. I'm a

1040
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: lot of other things other than being gay. So it's like,

1041
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: if that's what you see, what in your mind is

1042
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: being projected right now? Why do you? And that's a

1043
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: conversation piece. But as far as in the history and

1044
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: the schools, why not it's happening, It's gonna be empowering.

1045
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: If I have this book growing up, I would have

1046
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: had so much more sense of self growing up and

1047
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: filling validated with who I was as a kid, and

1048
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: probably would have finished school a lot faster. You know,

1049
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: I would have went right after. I'm a high school dropout.

1050
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: I dropped out because I did not have the community

1051
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: at sixteen years old. I have a PSA right now,

1052
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: bad council about me dropping out of high school because

1053
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: of how fucked up it was in the black community.

1054
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: The same people that you know are saying whatever, whatever, whatever, Like, no,

1055
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: they were not supporting me growing up. They were turning

1056
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: their backs on me. When I was in the pe

1057
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: room locker rooms. They thought I was like looking at them.

1058
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: The girls were I'm like, bitch, could over yourself, and

1059
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: that's what it comes down, sos. No, we need these conversations,

1060
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: but more importantly, we need these conversations with love where

1061
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, you don't understand what's going on. I

1062
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: get it. My negativeh is confusing as fuck. I misgender

1063
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: some people. Sometimes I be on on platforms where I'm

1064
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: talking to other trans you know, humans, where I have

1065
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: to like tell myself, okay, Cognitively, I know that I

1066
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: need to be right with this language. I would hate to, like,

1067
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: you know, disrespect anybody, and even as a fluid person,

1068
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: if I'm having these conversations with myself, shit, how am

1069
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,959
Speaker 1: I supposed to expect the eighty year old black women

1070
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: in church to be like, call me they right, look

1071
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: at the fuck over yourself Like it's a new conversation.

1072
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: I'm happy we're having a conversation. I'm honored we're having it.

1073
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: But like to my they them's and my trans humans,

1074
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: who's valid and experience is completely validated, they ought to

1075
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: let loosen up a little bit and let these motherfucking

1076
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: conversations happen so we can be more progressive with this

1077
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: shit versus like always being so uptight and being mad

1078
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: somebody misgendered you like they're going to as long as

1079
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: you know it's it's a learning well.

1080
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 3: I think when you put like you know, when when

1081
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 3: you get immediately angry, for example, at an eighty year

1082
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 3: old woman or something, it immediately stops the conversation, right,

1083
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 3: you don't even get the opportunity to educate someone, to

1084
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 3: change someone's minds and let them understand you. And then

1085
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 3: it just creates boundaries in so many walls that like,

1086
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 3: we don't have to we don't have to have Do

1087
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: you don't?

1088
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: Do you consider yourself a transhuman?

1089
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: I don't because when I called Ashley, then I called

1090
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: her other friend, y'all, you know, our other tribe member, Jessica,

1091
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 2: and oh yeah, actually put.

1092
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: Us in touch with her mom friend who's trans and

1093
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: she's transgender. She's a mom and she was like, raw

1094
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 1: is not transgender. I'm like, look at Ashley game fucking

1095
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: me up. I'm gonna be fucking the labels up as

1096
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: soon as I meet her, because Ashley doesn't lie to me.

1097
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: But I think actually not incorrect in her thinking because

1098
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people believe that non binary falls under

1099
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: the trans spectrum, but it doesn't, right, it can it

1100
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily you know what, I let that for whoever

1101
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: the fuck is by being identified like scientifically biologically. I

1102
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: understand where that comes from, because if you have cis

1103
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: gendered scientifically and then you have transgender, anything that's not

1104
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: cis gendered would necessarily fall under the transender. For where

1105
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: I am, I believe cis gender's right here, trans is

1106
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: right here, and on that spectrum, I believe I'm right

1107
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: in the middle between the two, which is why I

1108
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: still go by she and they them is applicable as well.

1109
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: But I would never tell somebody that's non bindar that

1110
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: they're not trans if that's what they identify us, and

1111
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: that's very important for that language to be open for them.

1112
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 3: Can you tell us more about your book. I really

1113
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 3: want you know, our listeners to first of all, buy

1114
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 3: this book because I feel like this is such an

1115
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 3: important book to read to all kids. It should be

1116
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 3: in schools. I think this is so important. I mean,

1117
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 3: I think I haven't got a chance to read all

1118
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 3: of it was because you just gifted it to me.

1119
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 3: But I was skimming through it and I was like,

1120
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: oh my god, this is this could change like someone's

1121
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 3: life in school and they read that and be like,

1122
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 3: oh my god, me too, or.

1123
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: How you even how a child approaches or sees someone

1124
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 2: and you know, inevitably in their life who they mean.

1125
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 3: Or understands their brother or their sister or or whoever

1126
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 3: you know. So, can you tell us about Charlie's best

1127
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 3: work yet?

1128
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely? And amen, I receive that, and Jesus name me tried. Yeah,

1129
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: So Charlie's best work yet is my newest book, loosely

1130
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 1: about a fifth grader finding empowerment in themselves. She is

1131
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: not trans or non binary necessarily, but you can tell

1132
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: from the dialogue she's androgynous. And she's kind of like

1133
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: a nigga bitch, like a town boy trying to figure

1134
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: it out. And I want I want to make sure

1135
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: the language was just that for everybody's experience to be included.

1136
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 1: You know, she's an artist, she's a painter. She's raised

1137
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 1: by her grandma, which I thought was important. Especially living

1138
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: out in California, I've noticed that grandma dynamic and grandparent

1139
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: dynamic is really prevalent out here. Her grandma empowers her

1140
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: to be herself, to be a painter. Every name in

1141
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: the book has a fluid name. Every person in the

1142
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: book is of color, except the Bully, which is Anglo.

1143
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: Of course name Angler. No, no, I'm the Bully's name

1144
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: is Ronnie, but he's an Anglo. Okay. I literally thought

1145
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,919
Speaker 1: you named the bully Angle should have ship. That would

1146
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: have been I should have consulted with you guys. Listen.

1147
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: I think is a great name, yes, but doubt just

1148
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: following her path, her journey, you know, so to speak.

1149
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: And her best friend, her newfound best friend, which also

1150
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: a nigga bitch who also is really just me, Devin

1151
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 1: is me. That's my Starbucks name too. So Devin gives

1152
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: her empowerment and shows her Grace Jones and she's like,

1153
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: who the fuck is this Grace Jones? And it's like

1154
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: showing how great shows is the ship and like doesn't

1155
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: fit any construct and is amazing, and she's like inspired

1156
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: and now she's inspired to create this great, you know, masterpiece.

1157
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: And then I don't want to spoil the end, but yeah,

1158
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: it's really cool. Wow, that's amazing. Where can our listeners

1159
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: find this amazing book. You can find it Barnes and

1160
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: Noble dot com, Amazon dot com, Target dot com. When

1161
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 1: does it come out? That's out? Raw is Love dot

1162
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: com that's my website YA dot com. You can.

1163
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: That's so cool, it's so amazing, And we're going to

1164
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 2: put the details in the description of the episode so

1165
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: you can find the link there easily and gets your

1166
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: copy soon.

1167
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: Thank you. Oh yeah, so the book really transcribes for

1168
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: all ages. It'd be a perfect book for you to

1169
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: read to your daughters, for them to read to you,

1170
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: or even as an adult. The vocabulary is pretty extensive,

1171
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: but I did put a word bank in the back

1172
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: of the book to please give you because I mean,

1173
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: most kids probably never seen the word androgynists before, you know,

1174
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: But then just kind of like correct introducing the language

1175
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: as regular language as it should be, because this is

1176
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: happening every single day.

1177
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 2: And we see how limiting when our language is limited,

1178
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: how much how limited.

1179
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: The conversation is because you almost find your don't know,

1180
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 3: you don't even want to have it, because you just

1181
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 3: are like, I don't even know how to have the conversation.

1182
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 3: Let let me just not have it, and so then

1183
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 3: it just eliminates the opportunity to learn and to connect.

1184
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 3: And I think it's just so important that we do

1185
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 3: have the language and that you know, we try our

1186
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 3: best to especially we have six year olds, like our

1187
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 3: daughters are six, and it's such a tender age because

1188
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 3: they're so open right now, they really still they don't

1189
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 3: really have a lot of preconceived notions about people. I mean,

1190
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 3: I think obviously they do in some capacity understand gender

1191
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 3: or whatever society has, you know, just his schooling has

1192
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 3: taught them. I mean, I've had conversations with Iri where

1193
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 3: at this point she's not she understands, but do just

1194
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 3: remember we went to that we went to like a.

1195
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: Farmer's market, and there was a guy and he had

1196
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: a dress on. Oh yeah.

1197
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 2: Then Linda was like why it's yeah, it's like why

1198
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: is he wearing a dress? And I was like, why

1199
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: are you wearing what you have on? Because he wants

1200
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 2: to and he can do whatever he wants. And she

1201
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 2: was so confused. But it's crazy like even having parents

1202
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: like us, you know, like who are Also one time

1203
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 2: she was playing with barbies and I was like walking

1204
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 2: by and she only had to gobot girl Barbie and

1205
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 2: she was like mom. I'm like what She's like, can

1206
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: two girls get married? I'm like, yeah, get whatever you want.

1207
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: She's like, oh okay, and just kept playing Barbies and

1208
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 2: I think like something else came up more recently, and

1209
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 2: it came up like on TV or something, and I

1210
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: was like, I used to have a girlfriend, and she's

1211
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: like looked at me, and I'm like, yeah, I did,

1212
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 2: and I just.

1213
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: Kept it movement, you know what I mean.

1214
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: But like it's crazy hows as open as transparent as

1215
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: we are, and we like take every opportunity to it,

1216
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 2: like show our kids love and acceptance, because that's all

1217
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 2: that matters, is like the media and outside influences, like

1218
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 2: the gent, the binary, like hetero fucking normative shit is

1219
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 2: so deeply inserted into every fucking thing you don't even

1220
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 2: realize it.

1221
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: And so you have kids who are like boys over makeup.

1222
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, who the fuck says so I want pink

1223
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: pink pap getting shit from I didn't teach you this shit,

1224
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 2: But it's just like Disney, all these things are so

1225
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 2: deeply ingrained in us, and it's like we have the

1226
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 2: opportunity to change it. And we have the opportunity to change,

1227
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 2: you know, like have that's I always say, like having

1228
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 2: a kids, having the opportunity to have one less asshole

1229
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 2: in the world. And I'm so happy for that, you know,

1230
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: opportunity is like one more loving human being that you

1231
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 2: could be.

1232
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: Like, everybody could do whatever the fuck.

1233
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: They want as long as they're staying in their lane

1234
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: and respecting each other.

1235
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: Super fucking simple facts. I think the shift of consciousness

1236
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: when you have a child, like when when dads have

1237
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: like girls, or when moms have boys, or vice version,

1238
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: moms have daughters and dads have sons. It's like if

1239
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: something doesn't shift in your mind with a bitch ass

1240
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: dish that you cannot presume or you know, contribute to anymore. Yeah,

1241
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: you cannot, you can't.

1242
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: It just might be a sociopath if it doesn't shift,

1243
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: which I'll never like, I'll never understand.

1244
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: Like a racist mother. I'm like, bitch, if.

1245
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 2: You birth something out of your pussy, out of your body,

1246
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: you better love every motherfucking living creature.

1247
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: Prejudice. I don't understand discrimination when you have I was

1248
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: at my son's school and a little girl was like

1249
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: running across like the parking lot, and I jumped out

1250
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: my car and like trying to grab a little girls.

1251
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, what if she were to get what happened to?

1252
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: Like us being a community in a try, Like isn't

1253
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: that normal, like I'm a mom, I see I say,

1254
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: any living thing, right, and but like the way she

1255
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: looked at me, probably like a little nigga bitch, But

1256
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: it's still my kid or run the over.

1257
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 3: She can't, you know, she can't have babies steal mine.

1258
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: So I take my kid to school. They're like, oh,

1259
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: are you guys checking in? I was like, bitch, I'm

1260
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: an adult. Damon, Like god, damn, are you guys checking in?

1261
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: But no, it's you're right. Though we have kids, things

1262
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: should change shift and if.

1263
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 2: They don't, you have to take a real deep, fucking

1264
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 2: crazy look at yourself, because bitch, you're crazy.

1265
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: You're crazy. Well, one thing doesn't change.

1266
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 3: And that thing is being a no matter who you fuck,

1267
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 3: and you know it is still swetever June.

1268
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: So this again, slutever, whatever, whatever, whatever you want to do,

1269
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: just like coming is just like an intersection with lgbt

1270
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: Q I a month or it just happened to be

1271
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: ironic that it was just the same around the same time. Yeah,

1272
00:58:58,480 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: it's ironic.

1273
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: Actually we just you know, our last month we were

1274
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 3: it was masturbation. May we focus on masturbation?

1275
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: I read I heard that.

1276
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we were doing like the dig talks thing,

1277
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 3: or you know, abstaining from you know, penetrative sex and

1278
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 3: then or sex in general and then.

1279
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: Or sex, okay, penetrative what about the penetrative.

1280
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 2: Sex and that's not really gender fluid or that's very

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're supposed to say that. What will

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Speaker 2: teach me, Well, I'm saying for you is you abstained

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Speaker 2: for penetrative sex.

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Speaker 1: But for someone who's pissy bumping, they're not. Well, there

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Speaker 1: was a lesbian in oh yeah, yeah, she love penetrative

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Speaker 1: sex in the household. Yeah, like they still get penetrated

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Speaker 1: at all. I think it's a construct. I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of like you said earlier about a lot of

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Speaker 1: masculine and theified women that are out here, you know,

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Speaker 1: sucking on and doing the whole hetero thing. A lot

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Speaker 1: of masculine identified women. Also a lot of women parents

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Speaker 1: like like penetration, Like a lot of them don't, but

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Speaker 1: they won't even admit it, but they like it, whatever

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Speaker 1: sex or all the sexes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that's why this month we are like whatever

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Speaker 2: whatever ever.

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Speaker 3: Out of it, and now we're sledding whatever that means.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean for you?

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Speaker 2: It's a slug We're just gonna be intentional about where

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Speaker 2: we put our pussies. You know, if I put my

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Speaker 2: pussy on you, hopefully it's enjoyable. I'ven't done it intentionally.

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Speaker 2: And if it's you and you and you and you,

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01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 2: lucky you and you and you, and if it's just me,

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01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 2: lucky me, and it's whatever the fuck I want to do,

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Speaker 2: and no one can tell me about it, you know.

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Speaker 1: It's whatever, whatever, whatever, that's valid. You're valid as fun.

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Speaker 3: But you know, we have a show. We have a segment. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we have a segment on our show called Horries where

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Speaker 3: we ask our guests to share a hotel. And I

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Speaker 3: was wondering if you would so graciously share one with us.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have so many hoe stories in

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Speaker 1: my fucking bag of tricks. I was such a whore

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Speaker 1: in Detroit, Michigan. Anybody that knows me knows I was

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Speaker 1: a fucking whore. Yeah. It was a little cute, little

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Speaker 1: nigga bitch on the scene, a little braids and shit,

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Speaker 1: little beads on them. Double lineup. Shit, Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: the double line lineup. I'm surprised you got edges. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that's a miracle and let that shit go.

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Speaker 1: Have a running on joke with Ashley real quick. I

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Speaker 1: was like, stop beating these bitch with lineups. It was

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. I'm not dating bitch with lineups or

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Speaker 1: to wear boxers. No more, Red Box, don't.

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Speaker 2: Don't come for Ashley. You know she got a boot.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that boot got a lineup.

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Speaker 1: No, No, they don't.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good they don't. Because I would just let me

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Speaker 2: stop right what I called Ashley the morning for your number.

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Speaker 2: She was in the bed with her nigga bitch and

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01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 2: because she's inappropriate with me all the time, I was like,

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Speaker 2: let me meet your friend, and I showed her my titties.

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Speaker 2: I was like, hi, Tity Tuesday, I'm Jamila.

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Speaker 1: She was like oh okay, and like, anyway, let me

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Speaker 1: speak to Ashley. This sounds so accurate, like accurate. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: do you want to FaceTime me? Later's like no, we're

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Speaker 1: just fucking okay.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: I love how open she is. Whole story who stories.

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01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: I was sixteen years old and I Joe from grandap Is, Michigan,

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01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: Detroit in the rain for this fucking turn up party

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01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: that I was supposed to be popping and I get

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01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: down in there and I mind you we have we

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01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: don't have phones then, so I had yea Google map.

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Speaker 3: Print it, write it down, miss write some ship, last

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01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 3: turn right.

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Speaker 1: On the lodge. I ended up there at the party

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01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: somehow with the map quest at night and it was

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01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: this this female that I liked that I want to

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01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: fuck right, I was gonna smash. She had a whole girlfriend,

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01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: a whole big nigga bitch. Now when you a little

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01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,479
Speaker 1: nigga bitch, and it was like a big nigga bitch,

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01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: like everything just kind of shrinks up because you just

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01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: like can't really compete this nigga tall, you know what

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01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So like I'm cute, but it's like a

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01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: like play basketball like overseas. So she still wanted to

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Speaker 1: smash too, So she was like we're gonna go and

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01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna leave real quick, and I'm like okay, So

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01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: I get in her car. She took me to like

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01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: an abandoned house like on the lodge. My nigga like

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01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:50,959
Speaker 1: like her dad does real estate and was like trying

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01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: to like sell them or some ship and had no lights.

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01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: The bed was had like that fucking crinkly ship over

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01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: like golden people's beds and ship fucked. But at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, like also, I didn't even like

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01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: realize what her body or anything about her look like

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01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: was all offline. So I was excited. I thought she

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01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: was really cute, you know, but like she yeah, her

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01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: body was like she can't fish you. She can't fished you.

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01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: She catfished you kind of. I mean her face was cute,

1369
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: but like, you know, being with a lesbian is really intimate.

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01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: It's not like a guy you could just like smash

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01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: and keep it a guy keep pants on and just

1372
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: keep it going. Whatever. You got a big dick, good stroke,

1373
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: it's cool. Like girls were like loving and like you know,

1374
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: touching on everything intimate, and I was touching on her,

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01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: and she had a lot of stuff going on. She

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01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: she her body was just really bad. It was just

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01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: really really bad. It was very unfortunate. It felt like

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01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: like a really large like and I hate this because

1379
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: it's fucked up, but it was like an inflated like

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01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: trash bagh. There were so many like folds and flaps,

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01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: and she only had like one kid, so there was

1382
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: not a really a reason you couldn't see you just

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01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: feel your way through it. And it was like fold

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01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: after fold after fold after fold, and it with just

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01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: like a lot of skin and like a lot of like, damn, bit,

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01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: you're fat, low key like you low keya like seventy

1387
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 1: pounds of skin right here? No you U just no

1388
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: fucking none of the good. Can't fat? Shame wish she

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01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: was fat and I didn't know. Okay, so she just

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01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: trot off guard. She tricked you, she tricked me.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so this is a horror story because not only

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01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 3: did she trick you, but she fucked you in an

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01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 3: abandoned house on plast and there left.

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01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: Me and went back to her basketball playing nigga bitch

1395
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: and I drove two and a half hours for this

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01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: terrible experience. Did you go back to the party or

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01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: you just went home after that? I don't remember. Oh damn.

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01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 3: Also might have drugged you, right, And I.

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Speaker 1: Ended up on the fucking in the hood of in Detroit.

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01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: But that was very careless of me.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to teenage years of sex. We were just having

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Speaker 3: this conversation how teenagers just have sex and weird places,

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01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 3: like you know, publicly in bolic bathrooms and public bathroom

1404
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 3: is a monkst Like yeah, like group with all your

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01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 3: friends in one room.

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01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,439
Speaker 1: But like but it's because it's not because it's an orgy,

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01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: it's because you don't have anywhere to go.

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01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 3: Like we're all going to do in one room because

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01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 3: this is the only room we know no one's gonna

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01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 3: come into.

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Speaker 1: Oh I think I have our adults making fuck freely. Amen. Whatever,

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01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 1: it's whatever. Whatever, Well tell the people where they can

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01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: find you. People, you can find me on Highland and

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01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: Ironic I R A w N I Q raw raw

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01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: is love. You can go on there and find on

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01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: my all your things, mysel my cool little things that

1417
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: I do, cool things that I'm doing right now. I

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01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: actually we just wrapped up a short animated film. I'm

1419
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: across from some really cool humans, Ginger Spice, Pee Wee

1420
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: Herman what. It's a really cool animated short. We're working

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01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,959
Speaker 1: at JB. Gooman Jr. I can't say we this. He's

1422
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: the master mind behind all of this, just brought me on.

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01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm the voice of the octopus and they're like Ginger

1424
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 1: Fluid and it's a really cool coming of age cartoon. Yeah,

1425
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: trans fishing, transfish, Ginger Space. Yeah, Ginger spic Tatum O'Neil

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01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: pee wee herman me. Yeah, the Crown without its shadow, congratulation.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. That's amazing. So I hope that goes like

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01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: someplace big because JB is really really talented absolutely as

1429
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: the book and just working on creating cool stuff. That's

1430
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: all I want to do is keep on having this conversation,

1431
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: create ways to have this conversation where people are going

1432
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: to be more open to it and educate people in

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01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: a loving way.

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01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 2: Amen, thank you so much, Thank you so much for

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01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 2: coming on so short notice.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and you guys make sure you go go get

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Speaker 3: Ro's book. This book is so important. And you know

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Speaker 3: where to find us. That's Good Mom's Underscore Bad Choices

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01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 3: on Instagram. If you guys have Twitter, you can follow

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Speaker 3: us on Twitter at Good Mom Underscore Bad Girl. Make

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Speaker 3: sure you join our patreon we are you can watch

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01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 3: this episode on Patreon and you can also just get

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Speaker 3: access to our Close Friends on Instagram, which is kind

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01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 3: of popping these days. Close Friends is popping, y'all. Think

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01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 3: you'll see in the stories on Instagram. But there's a

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Speaker 3: whole other secret, hidden situation happened in the Close Friends.

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Speaker 3: You missed it, you know, this you missed out yesterday.

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01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 3: I was close. I didn't post anything, really posted something,

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01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh.

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01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: Shit, is this only fans. You're showing titties.

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01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: I'm showing my I'm sitting on somebody's face and I'm

1452
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 2: getting dumbed and dumped in the dms.

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01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm getting dumbed and the dommed in the close Friends,

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01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: dombed in the close Friends.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think it was that explicit until Erica was like, bitch.

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01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: I was like, I guess it is a little.

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01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 3: Anyway, you can join our close friends in our babysitter

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Speaker 3: tier on Patreon, so that go to patreon dot com

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Speaker 3: backslash Good Mom's Bad Choices. We're gonna leave all this

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Speaker 3: information in the episode and.

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Speaker 1: Make sure to rate and review us. God damn it.

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Speaker 1: I'm pissed.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of white mom shows that are really

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Speaker 3: boring that have thousands of reviews. Thousands, I tell you,

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Speaker 2: What the fuck?

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Speaker 1: Just fucking we do it? Jesus, love me, love us,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Have a great week guys.

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Speaker 2: Byeo Ella solo recorder Lalolasa Ranzula