1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 2: I'm Doug Prisner and I'm Brian Curtiz. Here are the 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 2: stories we're following today. China's top leaders have signaled more 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: support for the real estate sector and our adding measures 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 2: to boost consumption. We get more from Bloomberg's Joan Wong. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 3: The Communist Party promised to more of WAA call's counter 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 3: cyclical policy that suggests more economic support along with an 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 3: adjustment of restrictions in the property sector, but the meeting 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 3: did not include major fiscal or monetary loosening. Chinese leaders 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 3: pledged to boost consumption and resolve local government debt. Investors 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: have been waiting for more support after data showed China's 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 3: economic momentums lowing in the second quarter. Financial markets initially 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 3: showed limited enthusiasm for the measures, but later US listed 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 3: Chinese stocks rose more than four percent and Hong Kong 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 3: I'm joined Wang Bloomberg Day Brick Asia. 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: We go to Apple next. We are being told that 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: the company is asking its suppliers principally in Asia to 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: produce about eighty five million units of the iPhone fifteen 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: this year. That is pretty much in line with the 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: year before, and it comes despite a projected drop in 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: the overall market for smartphones. Here is Bloomberg's man deep sing. 22 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 4: Thank of what happened last week when TSMC took down 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 4: its guidance by ten percent and they called out weakness 24 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 4: on the smartphone and PC side. So clearly, I think 25 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 4: this comes down the nerves in terms of Apple really 26 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 4: seeing a big decline with their new launch. 27 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. We're also hearing that Apple will probably 28 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: see higher revenue overall. Wonder why, Well, that's because the 29 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: company is considering raising prices of the iPhone Pro models. 30 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: Now. 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: Apple stock has surged nearly fifty percent so far this year, 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: and that has helped to push the market capitalization for 33 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: the company to three trillion dollars. We had the stock 34 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: today very little changed in late trading. Right now I 35 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: have it up about four tenths of one percent. 36 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: Ran and another stock that did well today was Tesla. 37 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: Tesla is looking abroad now to keep growth going that 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: story from bloom and Kates. 39 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 5: Tesla has disclosed more sales than ever outside the US 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 5: and China, the electric vehicle maker, and a regulatory filing 41 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 5: revealed that revenue from other international markets more than doubled 42 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 5: the close to eight billion dollars in the second quarter, 43 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 5: and while the US remains Tesla's biggest source of sales, 44 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 5: revenue has plateaued after approaching twelve billion dollars in the 45 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 5: final three months of twenty twenty two. Sales and Tesla's 46 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 5: home market have been lower for the past two quarters, 47 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 5: growing revenobia challenge in the third quarter because Tesla has 48 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 5: scheduled shutdown satisfactories. For updates in Washington and Kates Bloomberg, 49 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 5: day Break, Asia. 50 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: And Doug Tesla is up three and a half percent 51 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: in this latest session. 52 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: Well, a steep drop in stock trading revenue is weighing 53 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: heavily on one of the best known trading firms here 54 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: in the US. We have more from Bloomberg's Tom Buzby. 55 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 6: Citadel Securities reporting its first half trading revenue tumbling thirty 56 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 6: five percent from the same period a year ago, generating 57 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 6: two point seven three billion in revenue in the first 58 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 6: six months of twenty twenty three. That's compared to a 59 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 6: record four point two billion in the first half of 60 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 6: last year. Well, that windfall last year attributed to a 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 6: lot of volatility from a series of interest rate hikes 62 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 6: from the Federal Reserve fears of a US recession and 63 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 6: Russia's invasion of Ukraine. But this year, investor worries about 64 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 6: all those headline risks have declined, along with market volatility 65 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 6: and trading revenue. 66 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 7: Tom Busby Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 67 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: UBS says it will pay about three hundred and eighty 68 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: seven million dollars in fines related to misconduct by Credit Suiez. 69 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: The fines are linked to the Swiss bank's dealings with 70 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: Archego's capital management. In a consent order with the FED, 71 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: UBS agreed to pay just under two hundred and seventy 72 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: million for unsafe and unsound counterparty credit risk management practices 73 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: at Credit Suez, and separately, the Bank of England's Prudential 74 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: Regulation Authority find Credit Swiez one hundred and twelve million dollars. 75 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: The UK regulator said the bank failed to learn from 76 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: past similar experience and had insufficiently addressed its concerns. UBS's 77 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 2: acquisition of Credit Suisse actually closed last month. Since then, 78 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: the firm said that legal liabilities related to Credit Suisse 79 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: could cost the company as much as four billion dollars 80 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: over the next year. 81 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: All Right day Break Asia. I'm Doug Krisner along with 82 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: Brian Curtison. We're going to look at some of the 83 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: things that we were talking about on our production call 84 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: earlier in the day. Brian, you and I were speaking 85 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: about this call from JP Morgan strategist Marko Kolanovitch, Right. 86 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's kind of staying with the position a 87 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: noted bear, along with Mike Wilson over at Morgan Stanley. 88 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 7: But Wilson throws in the towel. 89 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: So it's kind of one of these things that recently 90 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: it's been slow in happening, but some of the biggest 91 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: bears have kind of changed their tune a little bit, 92 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: but Marko Klanovitch is sticking with it. 93 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, nineteen percent so far. This here for the S 94 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: and P five hundred. That's the gain we're looking at. 95 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: That's a tough pill to swallow if you've been on 96 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: the other side of the market. And I was looking 97 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: at a conversation that some of our colleagues had earlier 98 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: in the day with ed Yard Denny of Yar Denny Research. 99 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: He was saying there's a reasonable chance for a US 100 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: economic boom do a large part to improve productivity. He's 101 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: linking this to not only artificial intelligence, but things like 102 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: robotics and quantum computing, and he thinks it could turn 103 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: out to be something like the Roaring twenty twenties. I 104 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: thought that was interesting. 105 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been pretty positive, along with Tom Lee. And also, 106 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: you know you've got this China side stimulus that we've 107 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: talked a little bit about. The headlines out here are 108 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 2: lines like the polit Bureau, let's really state off the 109 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: leash after six long years on the shackle has come 110 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 2: off the property sector, and he's been well noted that 111 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: President she has said in the past that houses were 112 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: for living in, not speculating. The Polar Bureau made no 113 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: mention of that line in the rundown of all the 114 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: measures that they're planning from yesterday yesterday's meeting, So it 115 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 2: seems like they've changed their mind a little bit on 116 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: real estate. Does it work, does it change people's attitudes? 117 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: Will consumers start spending again? That's the part we don't know. 118 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 7: Well. 119 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: Economists over at Morgan Stanley we're saying that the readout 120 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: overall was a little more dubvish than expected, and these 121 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: economists went on to say this could be a defining moment, 122 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: very much akin to October twenty eighteen. We'll have to 123 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: wait and see. 124 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, time now for Global News, Israel's parliament 125 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: has indeed passed the law that weakens the judicial system. 126 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: Ed Baxter is getting his head around that and has 127 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: all the rest of the Global News in the nine 128 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: sixty news room in San Francisco ed. 129 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly right byen Benjamin Nett, Yahoo's government passing it 130 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 8: with very small majority, very slim and a sharply divided country. 131 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 8: Net Yahoo through a translator saying it is necessary and 132 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 8: it was. 133 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: Time today we performed and need a democratic step in 134 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 3: order to bring back a ben between the branches. 135 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 8: But we didn't have for fifty Yes, but the protests 136 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 8: that have been going on now for months in anticipation 137 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 8: have escalated, and Bloomberg's Ethan Bronner says it leaves several questions. 138 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 9: The fear is that it will make the regulatory environment 139 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 9: much more politicized. 140 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 7: That it will also allow. 141 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 9: The political leaders to do things that the law would 142 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 9: normally stop them from doing, for example, to fire people 143 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 9: who oversee them or to hire cronies. 144 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 8: Now, military reservists in large numbers say they can no 145 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 8: longer serve and the protests that have been made up 146 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 8: of tech workers basically, and what Bonner calls the expert class. 147 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 9: You know, the interesting question is how does the country 148 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 9: go forward without an expert class on board. And I 149 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,239 Speaker 9: think that's something that a whole bunch of countries are facing. 150 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 9: But in this country, which is in a tough neighborhood 151 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 9: and which has to defend itself, you know, the idea 152 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 9: that it's not actually going to be at risked so 153 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 9: much from outside, but more from inside. 154 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 8: The US White House has issued a statement saying it 155 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 8: wished that Nettnyahu had waited to make sure it was 156 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 8: the right thing to do, and those protests mentioned, well, 157 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 8: we're now getting reports that the masses of Israeli blocked 158 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 8: roads in Jerusalem. Police used water cannons to clear them out. 159 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 8: Massive protests in other cities as well. North Korea has 160 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 8: fired off another ballistic missile. South Korea is saying it 161 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 8: fell into the waters off the east coast. It comes 162 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 8: ahead of the seventieth anniversary of the signing of the 163 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 8: Korean Armistice on July twenty seventh, nineteen fifty three. It 164 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 8: also comes as North continues to protest the porting of 165 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 8: the US nuclear submarine in South Korea. Florida Governor Ron 166 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 8: Decantis plans to shake up his presidential campaign leadership this 167 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 8: sumid pressure from donors and supporters to salvage's presidential bid. 168 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 8: The major issue appears to be spending. Bloomberg's Nancy Cook 169 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 8: on Balance of Power says DeSantis is really getting backed 170 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 8: into a corner at this point. 171 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 10: There is an ongoing campaign reset, you know, there's sort 172 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 10: of a reset within the reset of him, with ongoing 173 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 10: campaign shakeups in the leadership ranks of his campaign. And 174 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 10: so I think for DeSantis, he's just trying to survive 175 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 10: the Republican primary. 176 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 8: Nancy says he's defending the new Florida education policy on 177 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 8: the teachings of slavery and seeming to intimate there was 178 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 8: an upside to slavery. Does not play well politically either. 179 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 8: But his immediate problem is the way the campaign is 180 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 8: spending money. And Typhoon Duk Surias stretched, strengthened and may 181 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 8: intensify into a super typhoon before possible landfall on the 182 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 8: northern Philippines. Its path would take it then to Taiwan. 183 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 8: Maximum wins at this point just over ninety six miles 184 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 8: per hour doc sorry to become the first typhoon to 185 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 8: hit Taiwan since twenty nineteen. Global News powered by more 186 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 8: than twenty seven hundred journalist and analyst in over one 187 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 8: hundred and twenty countries. This is Bloomberg. 188 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: I'm Brian Curtis in Hong Kong along with Vonnie Quinn. 189 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: Our guest is Tracy mcmillion, head of Asset Allocation Strategy 190 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: at Wells Fargo Investment Institute. Grazie. Thank you for joining us. 191 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: So we see more bears kind of rationalizing their view. 192 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: We mentioned Morgan Stanley and others have have joined in, 193 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: and that's even though their core view is that recession 194 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: and a pullback in earnings could still be coming. 195 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 7: Does that align with your house view? 196 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 11: So our ofview has been that we are we are 197 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 11: in a fed tightening cycle. Global central banks in general 198 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 11: are tightening. We are seeing global growth start to slow down. 199 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 11: We are seeing some indications that there is some flowing 200 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 11: of growth in the US as well. But there's also 201 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 11: this this mountain of cash that the average consumer has 202 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 11: on their balance sheets. Corporate balance sheets are pretty strong, 203 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 11: and there is there's also fairly high consumer confidence that 204 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 11: at the moment but we are fighting against tightening monetary policy, 205 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 11: and eventually we do think that that tighter policy is 206 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 11: going to have effects lagged at lagged effects, if you will, 207 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 11: and that we'd rather just be cautious at this point. 208 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 11: That does not mean selling out of equities, but it 209 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 11: does mean repositioning the portfolios to be a bit more 210 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 11: cautious here. 211 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 12: Tracy, what are we looking for because so far, data 212 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 12: that come in, earnings that come in, they don't seem 213 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 12: to be knocking the market off at skis. 214 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 11: No, You're you're right, Fanni. The Yeah, so far, we've 215 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 11: had a very good year in equities, with double digit 216 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 11: returns across a lot of equities asset classes. But we 217 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 11: do think we're starting to face some headwinds here. We are, 218 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 11: you know, expecting another rate hikes this week, potentially additional 219 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 11: rate hikes after that, especially if core inflation stays around 220 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 11: US five percent level, you know, it doesn't come off 221 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 11: in the in the next couple of months, we think 222 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 11: that the said will continue to hike. The jobs market 223 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 11: has been really strong, but it is starting to show 224 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 11: a few cracks. We think that could cause consumers to 225 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 11: pull back on the margins. And we're entering a seasonally 226 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 11: week period, so you know, again just we think a 227 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 11: little caution is probably. 228 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 7: In order here, Tracy. 229 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: The S and P five hundred is trading five percent 230 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: above it's fifty day moving average, So you could get 231 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: a pullback of that five percent, perhaps sometime soon, and 232 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 2: it would still be consistent with maintaining an upward trend. 233 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: If we did pull back five percent, would you guys 234 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: change your spots? Would you get long or do you 235 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: do you think that you would? You would stay with 236 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: your view to be cautious. 237 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 11: Yeah, we would say that that's still within the trading 238 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 11: range that we've seen really since last October. We've been 239 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 11: in this very very broad. 240 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 7: No, Tracy, that's that's that's not true. 241 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: I mean, the the range was really thirty eight hundred 242 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 2: to forty two hundred, and we. 243 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 7: Busted well above that. 244 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: Now it's at forty five fifty four, So that's above 245 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 2: a range that was in place since you know, long 246 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: ways back. It's you know, you can still argue the 247 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: bare case, but it's it's really not in a in 248 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: that same range that we were in. 249 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 11: You're you're absolutely right, it's not in the same range 250 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 11: that we were in, but we do feel like this 251 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 11: is probably just a counter trend rally. Still, we still 252 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 11: are not we're not above the highs that we reached previously, 253 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 11: and so, you know, we do think that it's very 254 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 11: likely that we could see a pullback in the five 255 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 11: percent range that you indicated, but we we would not 256 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 11: necessarily be buying into a five percent pullback. We want 257 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 11: to see a little something more significant than that. 258 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 12: Tracy, we had some male colpos to well, a mail 259 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 12: cop but from Mike Wilson. Let's say, who does he 260 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 12: missed out on last year? 261 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: Is Raleigh? 262 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 12: I mean, how are you supposed to look at it 263 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 12: if you're a strategist, I mean, if you're still expecting 264 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 12: the market to go down but it's had a twenty 265 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 12: or in the case of the NASDAK of thirty five 266 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 12: percent run up, have you missed something or are you 267 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 12: just early? 268 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 11: Yeah? So, you know, as I was as I was saying, 269 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 11: we aren't necessarily telling investors to move out of equities. 270 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 11: We're telling them to position within the equity space, position 271 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 11: more cautiously within that space. And what we mean by 272 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 11: that is that we would be moving money from things 273 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 11: like small caps and emerging markets into large caps, and 274 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 11: that's actually where most of the return has been so 275 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 11: far as this year. And so a tactical shift like that, 276 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 11: we think is something that has has benefited investors. And 277 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 11: seeing you know, with the fixed income space there too, 278 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 11: you know, we would be more cautious looking at investment 279 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 11: grade over high yield. You know that that trade has 280 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 11: not worked out as well as the large gap trade has, 281 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 11: but we still think that, you know that the yield 282 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 11: spreads are probably a little bit tight just considering where 283 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 11: we might be in this cycle. 284 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: Chracy as a daily news show, we want to talk 285 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: about some of the other developments happening in the past 286 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: twenty four hours. 287 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 7: China's a big part of that. 288 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: The Pullet Bureau meeting, they put out a reading of 289 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: some changes in policy and it looks like real estate 290 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 2: we'll get a lot of attention. Does China hold the 291 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: potential here to to improve global growth numbers if it 292 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: finally does get moving. 293 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 11: Oh definitely yes, kind of a major player in global growth. 294 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 11: So if we were to see, you know, some improvement 295 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 11: from the Chinese market, we we definitely think that that 296 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 11: could improve the global growth outlook. And you know, China 297 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 11: is really a support for that entire Asian region, and 298 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 11: so not only would we start to see some improvement 299 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 11: from China, but probably from other areas in Asia as well. Unfortunately, 300 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 11: we think that the stimulus that we that we saw 301 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 11: today is not as aggressive as it might need to 302 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 11: be in order to h jump start what turned out 303 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 11: to be a fairly disappointing recovery. So, you know, potentially 304 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 11: areas like Korea or Southeast Asia, Korea with their auto 305 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 11: Southeast Asia with tourism, that might be areas where we 306 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 11: might see some additional strength, even if we don't see 307 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 11: it coming from China. 308 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 12: Yeah, you're underweight em equities, but as you say, there 309 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 12: may be pockets around Asia where you could see some 310 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 12: interesting trades. What about you know, alternatives or as as 311 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 12: in sort of something like maybe a commodity or even bitcoin. 312 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 12: I mean, is there room or is there a need 313 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 12: for that in a portfolio. 314 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 11: So we do think there is a need for real assets, 315 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 11: and we consider commodities real outsets, real tangible assets, real estate, commodities. 316 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 11: We are we are unfavorable real estate at the moment, 317 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 11: but we do like commodities. We do think that the 318 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 11: that the globe is in a situation where supplies are 319 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 11: still constrained, and we know we're seeing some of that 320 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 11: in recent pricing in things like oil. We think that, 321 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 11: you know, food supplies to Titan this year until we 322 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 11: could see food prices also increase. So commodities is an 323 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 11: important element of the portfolio, especially in times when inflation 324 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 11: is an issue. 325 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, Tracy, thanks so much for joining us. 326 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: Tracy McMillian, head of Global Asset Allocation Strategy at Wells 327 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: Fargo Investment Institute. 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