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Speaker 2: This is it could happen here Executive Disorder, our weekly

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Speaker 2: newscast covering what is happening in the White House, the

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Speaker 2: crumbling world what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis.

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Speaker 2: This episode, I'm joined by Mia Wong, James Tout, and

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Speaker 2: Robert Evans. We're covering the week of July thirtieth August seventh. Robert,

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Speaker 2: what is Texas?

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Speaker 3: So the original root word of the state's name is Tejas,

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Speaker 3: which means friendship, a thing that no one in Texas

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Speaker 3: has ever known, because it's the angriest meana state in

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Speaker 3: the country. That's that's Texas.

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Speaker 2: Garrison up for some stiff competition these days, up for

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Speaker 2: some stiff competition, but it's still it's still holding out,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Everything's bigger in Texas, Garrison's It's famed as being the

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Speaker 3: second or third worst state that borders New Mexico, so

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Speaker 3: you know, rarefied company. Really it can compete with all

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Speaker 3: of the states bordering New Mexico except for Colorado. The

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Speaker 3: state's bordering New Mexico except for Colorado are Oklahoma and

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Speaker 4: Texas has some of the finest abt and breakfasts that

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Speaker 4: I've ever stayed in, that's right, including one with a

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Speaker 4: deeply disturbing basement.

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Speaker 3: Okay, just because they had one torture basement, James. So

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Speaker 3: we're talking about Texas right now because a bunch of

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Speaker 3: the Democratic state legislators just fled the state for Illinois,

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Speaker 3: I believe, is how the name of the state has pronounced.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's French.

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Speaker 1: It's French.

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Speaker 2: It's French fact check for real Illinoian wrong.

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Speaker 4: Disposed fact checks by real Illinoyance.

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Speaker 3: So when you've got a legislature of pretty much any type,

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Speaker 3: at least in the US, I'm sure there's other countries

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Speaker 3: that don't do it this way, but you need what's

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Speaker 3: called a quorum in order to actually do anything, which

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Speaker 3: means of the total number of elected members of the legislature,

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Speaker 3: you need a certain number of them. Otherwise you can't

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Speaker 3: like do anything because there's not enough people there in

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Speaker 3: And I probably don't have to explain the reasonings why.

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Speaker 3: There's some pretty obvious reasons why you'd want it to

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Speaker 3: work this way. But there are, however, some downsides to it.

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Speaker 3: You know, potentially you can be depending on whether or

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Speaker 3: not your side is doing it. It's a downside or

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Speaker 3: an upside, right, which is that if you have a

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Speaker 3: side that is the minority in the government and they

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Speaker 3: don't want a vote to go through, they can just bounce.

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Speaker 3: And if they bounce at the right time, before the

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Speaker 3: legislature has been called and like no one's there, then

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Speaker 3: And this is big news right now because in order

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Speaker 3: to stop a redistricting vote, a bunch of Democratic legislators

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Speaker 3: have fled. But this is a thing that has been

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Speaker 3: going on for well over a century, and it is

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Speaker 3: a thing that both sides of the aisle have engaged

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Speaker 3: in with substantial regularity. I'm not an expert on any

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Speaker 3: of this. The earliest example I can find of anyone

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Speaker 3: means it's the earliest example of anyone in the US

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Speaker 3: this in that by the Texas State Historical Association called

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Speaker 3: Understanding the Rump Senate of the twelfth Texas Legislature and

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Speaker 3: the rump Senate is a term applied to the fifteen

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Speaker 3: radical Republican members of the twelfth Texas Legislature who fled

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Speaker 3: in eighteen seventy to stop a vote on a militia bill.

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Speaker 3: And this bill gave the governor power to declare martial law.

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Speaker 3: It gave him the power to establish a state police force.

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Speaker 3: It increased the appointed power of the governor, a bunch

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Speaker 3: of stuff that's not all that interesting to us today

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Speaker 3: because governors, like every state does this today, right, Like

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Speaker 3: there's state police everywhere. Every state governor has the power

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Speaker 3: to call a militia, you know, a national guard or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Like this is not controversial today, but it was back then.

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Speaker 3: And it's important that I note that while it was

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Speaker 3: fifteen radical Republicans who fled in eighteen seventy, those were conservatives, right,

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Speaker 3: Like the radical Republicans were conservatives in eighteen seventy, right,

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Speaker 3: So this is kind of a reverse if you're just

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Speaker 3: and I should note it didn't succeed right. This is, however,

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Speaker 3: one of the fairly rare times when this kind of

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Speaker 3: the governor basically will declare an arrest warrant for the

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Speaker 3: the ability to call out an arrest warrant, but it's

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Speaker 3: not like a real arrest warrant. Like if you murder

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Speaker 3: a guy and then lead to another state, an arrest

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Speaker 3: warrant will be issued that law enforcement in that state

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Speaker 3: is not a real crime. Basically, if you flee back,

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Speaker 3: And almost I would say, like ninety percent of the

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Speaker 3: in eighteen seventy, several Conservative members were held under arrest

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Speaker 3: for like three weeks until the Senate could.

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Speaker 1: Pass the legislation.

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Speaker 3: So, as is usually the case whenever stuff like this happens,

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Speaker 3: it only succeeded in kind of delaying the inevitable. It

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Speaker 3: didn't succeed in actually stopping things. And this has happened

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Speaker 3: a number of times in Texas. Most recently Texas Democratic

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Speaker 3: lawmakers broke quorum in twenty twenty one. And I want

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Speaker 3: Texas state lawmakers left Brookquarman twenty twenty one when Democratic

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Speaker 3: House representatives fled Texas to prevent measures restricting voting options.

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Speaker 3: The measures eventually passed after internal democratic fissures led to

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Speaker 3: enough representatives returning to form a quorum. And this is

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Speaker 3: the kind of thing where Governor Abbott allowed the sergeant

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Speaker 3: of Arms, or commanded this target of arms to arrest

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Speaker 3: the members within Texas. Weirdly enough, a couple of them

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Speaker 3: Some of them had like shit to handle, like in

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Speaker 3: let this happen. And eventually the House reached quorum and

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Speaker 3: this past Democrats did not face the five hundred dollars

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Speaker 3: and nobody was arrested. Now, I've been talking about Texas here,

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Speaker 3: but this happens all over the place. In fact, when

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Speaker 3: on was what happened very recently in the state of Oregon,

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Speaker 2: You know mine too. They do this all the time,

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Speaker 3: But yes, this is a common thing in Oregon. It

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Speaker 3: I should note, right, both Democrats and Republicans in Oregon,

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Speaker 2: They don't even have to leave the state. They don't

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Speaker 3: To leave the state, although they have recently. This seems

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Speaker 3: There's actually a really good article that's hit like an

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Speaker 3: recent case of this happening was in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 3: This again did not succeed. This was passed in the

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Speaker 3: Because there was a different GOP walkout over climate change

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Speaker 3: legislation which also failed in twenty twenty two, and as

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Speaker 3: a result of that twenty twenty two walkout, voters approved

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Speaker 3: an amendment to the state constitution in Oregon which barred

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Speaker 3: this is something that very rarely actually does anything. There's

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Speaker 3: I'm going to quote from the Central Ark and Daily article,

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Speaker 3: politics is just snol children shouting at each other. I

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Speaker 3: want them to fight with canes. They should be fighting

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Speaker 4: Agreed, give them nerfs, give them give them all enough,

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Speaker 3: I would say ninety percent of the time nothing is,

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Speaker 3: at least from the reading I've done, nothing is achieved

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Speaker 3: Texas Democrats are doing will stop the redistricting. Like the

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Speaker 3: Republicans are going to win this fight. It's worth fighting. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm glad they're fighting it. However, very rarely is the

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Speaker 3: One of the rare cases in which something more was

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Speaker 3: achieved is in twenty eleven, in Wisconsin, Democratic state senators

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Speaker 3: He was attempting stript public workers of their union rights. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and this, you know, this walkout was staged at the

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Speaker 3: and after several weeks they won a partial victory. Republicans

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Speaker 4: For whatever reason ILLINOI is where you go if you're

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Speaker 3: It's I'd been to fuck Illinois and sorry, Illinois is

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Speaker 1: We love you Illinois.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Chicago's five, Chicago's fied for whatever reason. This is

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Speaker 4: If you're in Wisconsin, it's not a far away I guess.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is Indiana too, and also not very far away.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's further now that Texans are doing it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So, as Roberts said, Republicans in the Texas legislature are

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Speaker 1: This is what they do, period. It's been their policy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it doesn't tell you anything, just saying that

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Speaker 2: Like, this would be unprecedented sending a federal law enforcement

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Speaker 6: This is genuinely okay, I'm gonna take a very very

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Speaker 3: Hey, understand, you make me director the FBI, and I

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Speaker 3: Yes, As as Governor, Pritzker recently stated blood for the

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Speaker 8: After reviewing the science and consulting top experts at NIH

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Speaker 2: he would not take away vaccines yep. And he would

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Speaker 2: not change who's on the vaccine advisory panels. He has

442
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Speaker 2: done both of those things so far. Two months ago,

443
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Speaker 2: he fired all seventy members of the advisory panel. I

444
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: talked with Cave about this, and he replaced them with

445
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 2: eight anti vaxxers. And not only did he remove a

446
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Speaker 2: multi billion dollar contract from Deurna to continue mRNA vaccine research,

447
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 2: he now canceled these twenty two other contracts totally five

448
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Speaker 2: hundred million dollars of technology. People are going to die

449
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Speaker 2: and get sick because of these changes, yes, yeah, which

450
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Speaker 2: doesn't just affect like COVID and the flu, so it

451
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 2: also affects all of the other ways that mRNA technology

452
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Speaker 2: can be utilized. A lot of these research projects are

453
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Speaker 2: about expanding the possible use of this technology beyond upper

454
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Speaker 2: respiratory infections. So this sucks.

455
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is real bad ITV.

456
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Speaker 2: I am very nervous about the development of the HIV

457
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Speaker 2: vaccine and cancer vaccines, things that we were getting so

458
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 2: close to now being put into jeopardy because this fucking

459
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Speaker 2: clown is in charge of Health and Human Services.

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Speaker 4: A ton of this is wor I've done at the

461
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Speaker 4: salkans Gean San Diego, Achile.

462
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Speaker 2: It was reported earlier this week that some Republicans and

463
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Speaker 2: Trump himself might actually not be happy about this. And

464
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Speaker 2: Trump has a meeting scheduled with RFK Junior today to

465
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Speaker 2: discuss these cancelations, so we'll see where that goes. In

466
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Speaker 2: some other science news, Sean Duffy, interm NASA administrator who

467
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Speaker 2: also is the Secretary of Transportation, who directed his employees

468
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Speaker 2: to prioritize funding in grants towards towards demographics with high

469
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Speaker 2: marriage rates. He announced that he was expediating plans to

470
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Speaker 2: launch and operate a one hundred kilowatt nuclear reactor for

471
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Speaker 2: the Moon.

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Speaker 1: Great.

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Speaker 3: Look, there's a lot of people living on the Moon

474
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Speaker 3: and power outages have been a constant problem there, Garrison,

475
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Speaker 3: if this science fiction novel from the nineteen sixties is accurate.

476
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Speaker 2: I talk with a friend of mine who is an

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Speaker 2: anonymous NASA contractor. She gave a quote, quote I need

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Speaker 2: a cigarette unquote.

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Speaker 1: Great, because he just got fucked.

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Speaker 6: It's also worth noting that all of this is coming

481
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Speaker 6: in the context of the largest really like the largest

482
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Speaker 6: cuts in the history of American science across the board

483
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Speaker 6: to anything that's actually like I'm gonna get's remotely doing science,

484
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Speaker 6: Like yeah, sorry, I just I just want to go on.

485
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Speaker 2: Especially space science, like Duffy's trying to manufacture this new

486
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Speaker 2: space race and prioritize like manned Moon, all while cutting

487
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,479
Speaker 2: at least fifty percent all NASA science missions and just

488
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Speaker 2: like absolutely crippling NASA's capacity to actually develop technology. Now,

489
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Speaker 2: Duffy said at a press conference, and seeing this new

490
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Speaker 2: directive on Tuesday, quote we are in a race to

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Speaker 2: the moon, a race with China to the moon, and

492
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Speaker 2: to have a base on the moon, we need energy. Unquote.

493
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Speaker 2: Is that fucking nineteen fifty talk? What are you talking about?

494
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Speaker 4: And that's the time when the greatness happened to Garrison.

495
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Speaker 4: They want to get back to that.

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Speaker 2: The NASA contractor I spoke with said quote, NASA is

497
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Speaker 2: already down at least twenty percent of its workforce and

498
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Speaker 2: behind on its previously announced to lunar missions and objectives

499
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Speaker 2: see the Lunar Gateway and Artemis three. I just don't

500
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Speaker 2: immediately see a world where NASA does this successfully, even

501
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Speaker 2: if they go the route of contracting it out. If

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Speaker 2: the success, specifically the lack thereof of the commercial Lunar

503
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Speaker 2: Payload Services Program and the commercial LEEO Destinations program, has

504
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Speaker 2: any indication for how this will go, it will be

505
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Speaker 2: mirrored in failure and many years behind schedule at best. Unquote.

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Speaker 2: This new NASA directive from Shan Duffy calls for a

507
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Speaker 2: fission Surface Power Program executive to be named by the

508
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Speaker 2: end of August, whoill then implement yes, yes, who will

509
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: then impleant and oversee the project while reporting directly to

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Speaker 2: the NASA Administrator. The directive reads, quote, since March twenty

511
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Speaker 2: twenty four, China and Russia have announced, on at least

512
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Speaker 2: three occasions a joint effort to place a reactor on

513
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Speaker 2: the Moon by the mid twenty thirties. The first country

514
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Speaker 2: to do so could potentially declare a keepout zone, which

515
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Speaker 2: would significantly inhibit the United States from establishing a planned

516
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Speaker 2: Artemis presence if not their first unquote. And this is

517
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Speaker 2: I think a big part of why Duffy is wanting

518
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Speaker 2: to do this, and the contractor I spoke to said quote,

519
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Speaker 2: If they're able to extend some quote unquote exclusion zone

520
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Speaker 2: around a reactor on the surface where other countries aren't

521
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Speaker 2: allowed to land, it's not difficult to imagine that they

522
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Speaker 2: may try to use this to de facto claim areas

523
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Speaker 2: of the Moon for the United States unquote.

524
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Speaker 4: Hell yeah, we have colonized the Moon.

525
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Speaker 2: And there is even more troubling use cases. Part of

526
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Speaker 2: the directive reads that this would quote encourage dual use

527
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Speaker 2: civil and defense operational architectures, Yes, for deployed fission surface

528
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Speaker 2: power systems in coordination with interagency partners.

529
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Speaker 4: Moon base unquote. Space force finally getting its moment in

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Speaker 4: the sun on the Moon.

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Speaker 6: I guess this really is just like the pure unspeakable

532
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 6: tragedy is unspeakable first version of colonialism, because it's like

533
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Speaker 6: the moon is the one place that is actually Tyrannullis

534
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 6: and there's nothing there and there's nothing to gain from

535
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Speaker 6: being there.

536
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Speaker 2: There's just nothing. But you know, we got to colonize it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but the sun ever sets on the American Empire

538
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 4: if you've got the moon on it as well, so

539
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 4: you got that going for you.

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Speaker 2: It's just just it's just a pure drive of colonialism

541
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Speaker 2: detached from its actual like material motives.

542
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Speaker 4: Having failed to gain Greenland, we will pivot and take

543
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Speaker 4: the Moon instead.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, the Moon and Greenland are both

545
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Speaker 3: similarly habitable territories, so.

546
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Speaker 4: It's true, but you can't do backflips in Greenland.

547
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Speaker 2: So like, this is the plot of despicable meat.

548
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 6: Like that's what we're doing here, We're doing the plant

549
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 6: of despicable meat.

550
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Speaker 9: Yeah.

551
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Speaker 4: Many science fiction movies have predicted this, Please send them

552
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 4: all to us.

553
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: Yes, as was noted by Robert Heinland, the moon is

554
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 3: indeed a harsh mistress.

555
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: Wait, what is that I hear? Is that the tariff songs.

556
00:28:51,800 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 10: Jazz, rock jazz po sorry, rocking.

557
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: Jazz, ah god, every time, every time, it's good.

558
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: Let's talk tariff tariffs. There are so many of them.

559
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 6: The tariffs have gone into effect, So all right, we're

560
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 6: gonna do a full episode about this on Monday, because

561
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 6: there is so much tariff bullshit that it quite frankly

562
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 6: needs its own actual episode in which we're gonna be

563
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 6: talking about shit like, for example, the US has maybe

564
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 6: on accident, maybe on purpose, recognized the junta me and

565
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 6: mar is a legitimate government.

566
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Speaker 2: Do the tariffs stuff.

567
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Speaker 6: We'reking about that on Monday because we don't have time

568
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 6: for that, Shita.

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Speaker 2: What we instead have time for is.

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Speaker 6: The just massive array of tariffs on a list of

571
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Speaker 6: countries so long that we just genuinely can't read them.

572
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: All.

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00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 6: Okay, this is a very very confusing raft of tariffs.

574
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Speaker 6: In a lot of ways, it's simpler than the other ones.

575
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 6: But okay, so so Persian And if the US runs

576
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Speaker 6: a trade deficit with you and you're not also in

577
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Speaker 6: one of the other special categories where we have imposed

578
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 6: a really high tariff on you, it's like fifteen percent.

579
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Speaker 6: If we have a trade surplus with the country we

580
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Speaker 6: imposed a ten percent tariff.

581
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Speaker 2: This doesn't make any sense.

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00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 6: Sure, Okay, So it's like in terms of the state

583
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Speaker 6: of motives of the tariffs, it doesn't make any sense

584
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Speaker 6: except in terms of like raising money, which these raised

585
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 6: very little actual money relative to like the amount of money.

586
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Speaker 2: The US spends.

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Speaker 1: I mean.

588
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: Right wing commentators have stated that the end goal of

589
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Speaker 2: this massive tariff program is to abolish income tax because

590
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: we can fund the government through tariffs. Actually great, yeah,

591
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: I just know that. No, you can't like this, No, this.

592
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Speaker 4: Is just yeah. At the same time, it said driving

593
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 4: the deficit into the fucking sky, like yeah.

594
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Speaker 6: And we've talked about the sort of riffs that this

595
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 6: has caused, with like the sort of true believer deficit

596
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 6: hawks versus these just completely unhinged fund the government with

597
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 6: tariff weirdos. But Comma, there have been a huge number

598
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Speaker 6: of countries. Then now we have fifteen percent tariffs on

599
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 6: we've also gotten a formal like announcement of the one

600
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Speaker 6: hundred percent tariffs on semiconductors unless you invest do some

601
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 6: kind of certificant investment in the US. It's deeply unclear

602
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 6: what the fuck that means. Uh, Apple hasn't pledged to

603
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 6: invest one hundred billion dollars in the US. There's this

604
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 6: very very weird thing on the right where like they

605
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 6: just they think that you can make iPhones here. You can't.

606
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Speaker 6: You just simply cannot. We you don't have the labor force,

607
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Speaker 6: you do not have the technology.

608
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Tim Cook did just bribe Trump with a.

609
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 4: Nice plate of gold in the iPhone, a big old

610
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 4: ingot of gold.

611
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: So I thought it was a gold iPhone.

612
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: There was some glass involved as well, No, it was

613
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Speaker 2: it was it was a plate that was on like

614
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: a gold like brick base. I love that.

615
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the way we do it. Now, we're exactly

616
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 4: decided under the radar.

617
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Speaker 6: Cool.

618
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: You have to bribe the supreme ruler by giving gifts

619
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Speaker 2: of gold to grand good favor.

620
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Speaker 4: Oh god, it's like fucking smoke whatever. Like it has

621
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Speaker 4: this pile of gold that he's going to be sitting on.

622
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 4: It's going to be Scrooge mcducking in that ship by

623
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Speaker 4: the end of four years.

624
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: Oh, don't get us started on ducktails. Oh no, no, no,

625
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: no cure.

626
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll really inflate the length of this episode.

627
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 4: That's what they call a layup in in sports ball.

628
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the tear us up to?

629
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Speaker 6: They're calling me the fucking Wembin y'all, fucking a fucking

630
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 6: inflation shop blocking Fuck this we're talking about. We're talking

631
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 6: about ship infrastructure. People have been trying to develop like

632
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 6: the infrastructure developed ships for a long time now. The

633
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 6: Biden administration did this. The Chinese government isn't boring a

634
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 6: bunch of money into it. And it's basically impossible to

635
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 6: actually develop domestic ship infrastructure other than the kinds of

636
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 6: infrastructure that he US already has. Because the really short

637
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 6: version of it is that it's not just a technological problem,

638
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 6: and it is it's really hard to actually develop the technology.

639
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 6: This is why almost all of the direct production stuff

640
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 6: there trying to replicate basically just happens in Taiwan. It's

641
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 6: not just a problem of the technology is really hard.

642
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 6: It's a problem of the machines to make. The machines

643
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 6: that you need to make these things exist in like

644
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 6: one place in the world, in Switzerland, right. So in

645
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 6: order to actually scale up production of this, which is woild,

646
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 6: is in theory what these one hundred percent imported semi

647
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 6: conductor tariffs are supposed to do. Right, You have to

648
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 6: go up three layers of the supply chain, you have

649
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Speaker 6: to make the machines that make the machines that make

650
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Speaker 6: the machines that make the semi conductors.

651
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Speaker 2: Right, that's like the simplest way to explain it. We don't.

652
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Speaker 2: We can't fucking do that. Like Apple could throw a

653
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: fucking hundred billion dollars that what that would do?

654
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: Shit?

655
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 6: Right, So they're chasing just a ghost. But you know,

656
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 6: our entire sort of like trade policy is just being

657
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 6: run by the just weird, fascist, miasmic phantoms of all

658
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 6: of these trade policy people. Now, it's also worth noting

659
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 6: that there's been you know, another I guess kind of

660
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Speaker 6: that's been enacted. Other than hilariously, the countries that tried

661
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Speaker 6: to negotiate what Trump got worse rates than the ones

662
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Speaker 6: who just waited until he imposed fifteen percent rate.

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Speaker 4: Generally, that's kod it's funny.

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Speaker 6: But also so Trump has been threatening anyone who buys

665
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Speaker 6: oil from Russia and also I think Venezuela, though it

666
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Speaker 6: has been less for US on that with fifty percent tariffs.

667
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Speaker 6: Right now he's threatening India with fifty percent tariffs because

668
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Speaker 6: India has been buying oil from Russia that India's tariffs

669
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Speaker 6: are currently a twenty five percent. He is also just

670
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Speaker 6: straight up imposed to fifty percent tariff on Brazil for

671
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Speaker 6: refusing to release Bolsonaro. There's been some updates on that

672
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Speaker 6: front where Lula is just straight up refusing to do

673
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Speaker 6: direct talks at the US. Lula had an exclusive interview

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Speaker 6: with Reuters where he said, quote, we had already pardoned

675
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Speaker 6: the US interventions in the nineteen sixty four coup, said Lula,

676
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Speaker 6: who got his political striders. Listen, listen to the Lula

677
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 6: episodes we did, They're very good. More more Lula quote,

678
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Speaker 6: but this is now not a small intervention. It's the

679
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Speaker 6: president of the United States thinking he can dictate rules

680
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Speaker 6: for a sovereign country like Brazil. It's unacceptable. It's worth

681
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Speaker 6: noting that this is actually a pretty massive change for

682
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Speaker 6: like Lula specifically relations with the US. Lula actually had

683
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Speaker 6: very good relations with George Bush. But he is writing

684
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Speaker 6: a massive tide of of Brazilian anti American nationalism, and

685
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Speaker 6: he's attempting to spread this tide elsewhere.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 6: He's been specifically saying that he's calling on organized resistance

688
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Speaker 6: from particularly India and China, but the rest of bricks,

689
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 6: which is a well, okay, bricks was originally a category

690
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 6: of assets that's now kind of a vaguely a political

691
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Speaker 6: alliance who's made members are Brazil, Russia, India, China, and

692
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Speaker 6: South Africa. It's unclear if this will happen, I kind

693
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Speaker 6: of I don't know, but Lula's the first person really

694
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Speaker 6: really seriously trying to organize resistance to this outside of

695
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Speaker 6: the EU. The EU's also under a thread of thirty

696
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Speaker 6: percent tariffs if they don't just sort of like see

697
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Speaker 6: the Trump's demands. But like you know, again, India also

698
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 6: negotiated ill with the US and then immediately got their tariffs,

699
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 6: like is now being threatened with fifty percent tariffs, so

700
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Speaker 6: you can't negotiate with him to escape this. So I

701
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Speaker 6: don't know, Lula, maybe this is the beginning of sort

702
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Speaker 6: of organized, like large scale organized terraff resistance to the

703
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Speaker 6: US being framed in this sort of like collective struggle

704
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Speaker 6: versus the US thing. That's an interesting political trend that

705
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Speaker 6: will be following as all of us continues. Okay, and

706
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Speaker 6: the rest of the unhinged amount of tariff news we're

707
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Speaker 6: going to be covering Monday, I will make a brief

708
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Speaker 6: note that the Yale Budget Lab is estimating like like

709
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Speaker 6: a twenty four hundred dollars increase for the average family

710
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Speaker 6: just in terms of like inflation prices for this especially

711
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Speaker 6: on things like clothing. They are specifically I think there's

712
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Speaker 6: a sane article puls so they're specifically talking about running

713
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 6: shorts and shoes and anything any goods from South Asia

714
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Speaker 6: massively increasing in price. You're talking thirty percent increases very quickly.

715
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Speaker 6: So yeah, Now, obviously all of this news is I

716
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Speaker 6: don't know, the stock market has kind of like accustomed

717
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Speaker 6: itself to tariff news. Yeah, but Comma, we've got a

718
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 6: really really bad job support last month.

719
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Speaker 2: And well actually, well well I don't know if that's true.

720
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Speaker 2: I think the jobs report could be completely faked. Yeah,

721
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Speaker 2: who can say, Jesus, if the president says it, it

722
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Speaker 2: has to be true.

723
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Speaker 4: A Biden did you have a Biden appointee?

724
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Speaker 2: All crazy crazy The auto pen is issued to this

725
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Speaker 2: job's report.

726
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Speaker 6: So yeah, Trump, Trump has fired the Commission of the

727
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Speaker 6: Bureau of Labor Statistics for releasing this report. We are

728
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Speaker 6: just we are just truly fully into the deep end

729
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Speaker 6: of shit.

730
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Speaker 2: Now, Like the report just showed that we didn't have

731
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Speaker 2: very positive job growths, and like anyone who's trying to

732
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: get a job right now can confirm that it's like

733
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Speaker 2: a nightmare.

734
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and we're just like we're just like fully going

735
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Speaker 6: to be in Like, you know, it's unclear exactly how

736
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Speaker 6: fast American data collection capacity is going to degrade. It

737
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Speaker 6: is worth noting this is the thing that kind of

738
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Speaker 6: happens at the end of dictatorships when they really start

739
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 6: going to shit, is that they lose the ability to

740
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Speaker 6: trust their own cistical apparatus.

741
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

742
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Speaker 2: I mean, like anything that happens that Trump just doesn't like,

743
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: you can claim it's fake and rigged, whether that's losing

744
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: an election, whether that's his good close personal friend Jeffrey Epstein,

745
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: or if that's a Bureau of Labor Statistics job report,

746
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Speaker 2: it's all rigged. It's all a hope.

747
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Speaker 10: Yeah.

748
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

749
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Speaker 6: But to tie this back to Lula for a second,

750
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Speaker 6: I think it's actually really a really interesting historical parallel

751
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 6: that's worth noting that Lula's rise to political prominence came

752
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Speaker 6: off of a series of strikes that was held because

753
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 6: because a bunch of economists that were working with the

754
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Speaker 6: inside the Brazilian labor unions figured out the military dictatorship

755
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Speaker 6: of Brazil had been faking their inflation numbers, and like,

756
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Speaker 6: this is one of the things that caused the end

757
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Speaker 6: of the dictatorship. So you know, you can only lie

758
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 6: about the inflation rate for so long before like someone

759
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 6: goes like, hey, you've been lying about this the whole time,

760
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Speaker 6: and I don't know this.

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Speaker 2: This, this has brought down military kidder just before. And

762
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Speaker 2: that's why we have to hold archive of our own

763
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Speaker 2: accountable for faking those inflation numbers.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you entirely, Garrison.

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Speaker 11: I don't get paid enough for this. You've lost me

766
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Speaker 11: not following and yeah, that has been terriff talk. You

767
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Speaker 11: know what will continue to be available to our listeners

768
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 11: at an excellent price despite tariffs.

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Speaker 2: The products and services that support this podcast.

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Speaker 4: That's absolutely correct, Garrison, Well done. All right, we're back,

771
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Speaker 4: so bad And also back is the United Kingdom, where

772
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Speaker 4: a poll shows that more than half of Britain's think

773
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Speaker 4: there are more migrants in the UK illegally than legally.

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Speaker 2: This isn't true, No, but feelings matter way more than facts.

775
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Speaker 4: Je failings matter. They yes, they do. The actual data

776
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Speaker 4: even at the highest estimate of undocumented people shows that

777
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Speaker 4: this around ten times more foreign people who are in

778
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Speaker 4: the UK with documents. This is indicative of a broader issue,

779
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Speaker 4: right that the discussions having around immigration are nearly all

780
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Speaker 4: based on massive amounts of misinformation. Misinformation by a mission

781
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Speaker 4: was extremely common in legacy media until very recently, right like,

782
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Speaker 4: there was simply not people covering immigration in a serious fashion,

783
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Speaker 4: Like even in the Biden administration, the reporting that was

784
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Speaker 4: done was atrocious. This comes as the Labor government's disapproval

785
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Speaker 4: rating in the UK hit sixty seven percent in a

786
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Speaker 4: Yugo of pol which I think is very indicative like

787
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Speaker 4: what Labor did, right was try to adopt right wing

788
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Speaker 4: culture war positions to get people to vote for them,

789
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Speaker 4: and it does not work and it is not working

790
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Speaker 4: for them. You can look at their policies towards trans

791
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Speaker 4: people right there, and it's not buying them to favor

792
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 4: they wanted to moving back to the United States. Yon

793
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Speaker 4: sou Go, she's called Sue by her friends. It has

794
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Speaker 4: been released by Ice after being detained at a routine hearing.

795
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Speaker 4: A twenty year old young woman as a Korean national

796
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Speaker 4: South Korean evidently right and the daughter of a priest

797
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Speaker 4: so she's here on a visa as a dependent of

798
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Speaker 4: a religious worker. There are religious worker visas, and she's

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Speaker 4: here as a dependent. She is I believe in the

800
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Speaker 4: process of transitioning to a student visa. She had the

801
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 4: hearing her case wasn't like dismissed or evoked. She had

802
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Speaker 4: another hearing set for October. I claim that she overstayed

803
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Speaker 4: her visa, Her lawyer says, I claim, it's not true.

804
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Speaker 4: I'm particularly interested in this case because of the intervention

805
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Speaker 4: of the diocese, the Episcopalian Diocese of New York, and

806
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Speaker 4: so it was the Episcopalian Diocese of New York's legal

807
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Speaker 4: team who fought for her release. She was very quickly

808
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Speaker 4: moved to Louisiana. We know that is likes so do

809
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Speaker 4: this right. It likes to move people to places where

810
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 4: it feels like it has a favorable circuit court. The

811
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Speaker 4: Dioceit offical team was able to secure her release, but

812
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Speaker 4: they are still working on the release of a fifty

813
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Speaker 4: nine year old ProView and asylum seeker who has been

814
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Speaker 4: detained after having her court date moved up. So in

815
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Speaker 4: her CASEY said, hey, we've got a hearing that's opened up.

816
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Speaker 4: When don't you come in on Thursday and then detained her,

817
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Speaker 4: which is just reprehensible. It is really good. I think

818
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Speaker 4: that these big religious organizations are getting involved directly in

819
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 4: these cases, that they are taking on responsibility, that they're

820
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 4: using their pulpits as a place to oppose this. I

821
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Speaker 4: think that's good. I think, regardless of your stance, aren't

822
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Speaker 4: organized religion, you should be happy about that. These are

823
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Speaker 4: institutions that have power in this country. Talking of institutions

824
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Speaker 4: that have power, detainees in Florida's Alligator Alcatraz are being

825
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 4: denied their right to file court documents because federal courts

826
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Speaker 4: are claiming they're not under federal jurisdiction. State courts are

827
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Speaker 4: claiming they're not under state jurisdiction, which is fairly reasonable

828
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Speaker 4: given that they have not been charged with or accused of,

829
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Speaker 4: in many cases, any crimes in the state of Florida.

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Speaker 4: Right then, they're not being held. They were not detained

831
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Speaker 4: by well, sometimes they were detained the Florida law enforcement,

832
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Speaker 4: I guess, but only in their capacity to enforce federal

833
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Speaker 4: immigration law.

834
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Speaker 2: Yes, with the special deputized NAT.

835
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Speaker 4: Yes, it's yeah, it's deputies, which we're about to talk

836
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Speaker 4: about there have been some very funny outcomes of that.

837
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Speaker 4: This isn't it like I've seen it report as a loophole.

838
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Speaker 4: It's not a loophole. It's extremely fucking clear that they

839
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Speaker 4: were detained by the federal government for immigration reasons, and

840
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 4: they have every right to representation in immigration court right

841
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 4: that this is not a loophole. They're just denying people

842
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 4: their rights, and I think reporting it as a loophole

843
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 4: is entirely ridiculous. A judge has ordered a document showing

844
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Speaker 4: who is contracted by whom at the facility be produced

845
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Speaker 4: as part of a civil rights lawsuit. So what that

846
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 4: will do woul obviously document them. The fatal government it's

847
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 4: paying some of this. I know rich DeSantis had wanted

848
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 4: to use FEMA money for some of this breaking news.

849
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 4: So federal Judge Kathleen Williams has ordered that construction new

850
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Speaker 4: construction halt. They won't be allowed to do any new filling, paving,

851
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Speaker 4: or infrastructure building for the next fourteen days temporary pause.

852
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 4: They can still continue to hold people right, this is

853
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 4: not going to stop those people being denied their rights,

854
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 4: which is what sort of stake here. So we talked

855
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 4: a little bit about those Florida deputies right who have

856
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 4: been I guess secondid to ICE orgs. They've been crossworn

857
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 4: to do ICE work. ICE is recruiting very heavily right now.

858
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Speaker 4: I'm offering fifty thousand dollars sign on bonuses. It has

859
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Speaker 4: reduced a minimum age and it seems to have no

860
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 4: maximum age cap. From what I can tell, this Border

861
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 4: Patrol has been issuing all kinds of waivers for years, right,

862
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 4: for all kinds of things that it's supposed to have

863
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 4: as like standard for its recruiting. This isn't particularly new.

864
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Speaker 4: ICE has been known for a while. It's kind of

865
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Speaker 4: if you want to be a FED and go around

866
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Speaker 4: and carry a gun, and you can't get hired to

867
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Speaker 4: do gun stuff for the Fed to other agencies, ICE

868
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 4: is probably the place you're going to end up, right,

869
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Speaker 4: Like their standards are lower than other agencies.

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Speaker 2: And now they're like specifically selecting for the most like

871
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: online unhinged right wing free to join their agency as

872
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 2: like a national police force. Yes, and that's like what

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Speaker 2: they're doing in their messaging online. And also some news

874
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Speaker 2: this week Dean Kane has has joined ICE. Yeah, yeah,

875
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Speaker 2: it's most likely in like a promotional capacity. But still

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Speaker 2: worth noting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you might get chased by middle aged superman. So

878
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 4: let's talk about what ICE is doing to recruit a festival.

879
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 4: It is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on big trucks.

880
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 4: We know Donald Trump himself, it's found a big truck,

881
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 4: so many pictures of him enjoying big trucks. Over the years,

882
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 4: Ice has spent one hundred and ninety six thousand dollars

883
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 4: on Ford raptors for recruiting purposes. The raptor, for those

884
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 4: not familiar, is like a tricked out F one fifty.

885
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 4: They were issuing raptors to field agents for a while.

886
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 4: They're not the best vehicles, like I've heard plenty of

887
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 4: agents complain about the raptism. Yeah, yeah know, And the

888
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 4: BP had a special like lowest possible trim of the

889
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 4: raptor that like they're popular now because people will buy

890
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 4: them used as government surplus and make them good. But

891
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 4: they yeah, the raptors they had didn't work too well.

892
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 4: They also bought a GMC Yukon for one hundred and

893
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 4: one thousand dollars, which is a very expensive GMC yukon.

894
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 4: I have also noted that ICE is recruiting from the

895
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 4: police who have been cross sworn into doing ICE enforcement.

896
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 4: This has resulted in some very funny beefs between agencies

897
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 4: including can I share this video? Can I screenshare?

898
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

899
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's that's what it's the video.

900
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 12: And then what has happened is ICE has sent emails

901
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 12: to I don't know how many agencies, by no, several agencies.

902
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 12: I've talked to several sheriffs that their deputies have received

903
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 12: these this request and basically it's a recruiting tactic. It's hey,

904
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 12: we got your email, Now you got certified, and it's

905
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 12: something like, dear colleague, you showed an interest in this

906
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 12: and that, and we will let you know that we

907
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 12: are offering a fifty thousand dollars bonus paid ten thousand

908
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 12: dollars at a time, and it's for five years. Obviously, man,

909
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 12: is that not you know Biden handed feeds you. We

910
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 12: we went through all of that, took our time, utilizing

911
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 12: our local resoort, not ours yet, but local resources.

912
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: And then they try to recruit you right out from.

913
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Speaker 12: Undery using the very emails that we give you.

914
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: Finally they've found something bad. ICE is done. Yeah, this

915
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: is a new low. Even for uce.

916
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Sheriff Chip simmons that calling Ice out for that

917
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 4: poor form.

918
00:47:55,600 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: Sheriff Chip finally found something that shows this true depress

919
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: a compromised heart of Ice.

920
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah. Where will they stop? Well, let's talk

921
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 4: about where they will stop or at least start spending.

922
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 4: Ice has been spending some money this week. Some of

923
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: this I think, like some of the sort of reporting

924
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 4: on ITFC isn't hugely responsible. So like I used to

925
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 4: signed a sole source contract with B two Technologies for example,

926
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Speaker 4: for quote licenses for the Inmate Identification of Recognition System

927
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 4: and the Mobile Offender Recognition Information System. They call these

928
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 4: IRIS and Morris based on their initials. Right, these are

929
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 4: for ers, so that's their enforcement and removal operations brands

930
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Speaker 4: BO two pitches. IRIS is being able to identify people

931
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Speaker 4: with no physical contact based on the tears in their IRIS.

932
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 4: This technology has been used by police for a while,

933
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Speaker 4: so you'll notice it was called the inmate identification So

934
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Speaker 4: the way they would obtain these Irish scans would be

935
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Speaker 4: scanning people who were detained. Right. CBP will also have

936
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Speaker 4: IRIS scans, so well, uscis right. This is one of

937
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 4: the pieces of biometric data that's sometimes collected from migrants

938
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Speaker 4: as part of their process and moving into the United

939
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Speaker 4: States and then getting their documents, et cetera. What Morris

940
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Speaker 4: will do is allow them to search a registry of

941
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Speaker 4: previous offenders. In twenty twenty four, Niagara County Sheriff's Office

942
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Speaker 4: were the first sheriff's office to add IRIS to their vehicles.

943
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 4: But I feel it reported as this is as a

944
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Speaker 4: CBP officer or ice officers are going to be scanning

945
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Speaker 4: people's irises with their phones. I don't see any evidence

946
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 4: of that technology existing either in the contract that the

947
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Speaker 4: government has or on the website for the company that

948
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Speaker 4: makes it. And guessing what this will do is if

949
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Speaker 4: they have somebody who, for instance, has previously been detained,

950
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Speaker 4: somebody who has done time and come out, then they

951
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 4: will use this to like as aware of identifying them

952
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 4: right when after they've detained them before they take them

953
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Speaker 4: to wherever. The big issue here, right, is that B

954
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 4: two owns this database of scans. So this database includes

955
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Speaker 4: Morris right, which is previous people who have previous offenders.

956
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 4: They have a sex offender registry within it. They also

957
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Speaker 4: have databases of seniors who are at risk for going

958
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Speaker 4: missing so that I think that's people with dementia that

959
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 4: people can voluntarily sign up to. And they have a

960
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 4: database of missing children as well. The A two interesting company.

961
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Speaker 4: They also they offer a bunch of services for detention companies.

962
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Speaker 4: They previously partnered with the support Our Sheriff's Foundation to

963
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Speaker 4: provide lower cost prescriptions to sheriffs and deputies. They're pretty

964
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Speaker 4: embedded in this law enforcement world. Other contracts they saw

965
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Speaker 4: for ice new tech solutions for fingerprint scanners. Again, fingerprint

966
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 4: information is routinely taken from migrants and many one people.

967
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Speaker 2: Getting green cards, people getting visas, people getting citizenship.

968
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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, anyone who has in any capacity and really

969
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 4: engaged with uscis like all those categories you mentioned, Garrison

970
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,959
Speaker 4: will have already done this. They did also purchase gray Key,

971
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 4: which is more concerning, which is for breaking into cell

972
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Speaker 4: phones locked cell phones. Yes, it's for trying to get

973
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 4: around the lock on your cell phone. I've written about

974
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 4: GrayKey before for Input magazine Germany. The way they do

975
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 4: this is that they try and make a copy of

976
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 4: the cell phone and work on a copy so you

977
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 4: don't get locked to have of your cell phone. But

978
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 4: grey Key is an extremely nefarious piece of technology for

979
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 4: breaking into people's phones which you otherwise wouldn't be able

980
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 4: to access. So yeah, that is what I have for

981
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 4: ices spending spree this week.

982
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Speaker 2: For our last story, I would like to also talk

983
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: about technology, but technology in the news some AI incidents

984
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: that have broken into people's news news gathering process. Former

985
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 2: CNN anchor Chris Cuomo has shared a fake AI video

986
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: of AOC giving a speech in Congress calling out the

987
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: Sydney Sweety American Eagle ad as racist.

988
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: Damn it, I got to see this. Why does it

989
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: have to all be so stupid?

990
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 9: I was tweeting today and saw a clip of AOC

991
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 9: saying that Sydney sweeneyad was racist, and so I replied

992
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 9: to it, and I said, why do you care about

993
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 9: this and ignore what matters most? Why in all the

994
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 9: times that you've called on Israel to stop, why have

995
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 9: you never told Hamas to stop, told Hamas to surrender?

996
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 9: Why would you ignore the Saint Louis attack on that

997
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 9: Jewish guy who had his car bomb. AOC tweeted back

998
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 9: and said, dude, that's a deep fake that Sidney sweetya ad.

999
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 9: You suck in so many words, and she was right.

1000
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: They got me.

1001
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: She was right, I suck.

1002
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 4: He has been owned.

1003
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: That's not bad, that's pretty good. That's funny.

1004
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I just to cut off the clip there.

1005
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's the right place for it to go.

1006
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 2: On this AI video of AOC, it is clearly like

1007
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 2: like in Boston into the video himself. This isn't AI

1008
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 2: video from from chat gpt memes plus AI art on Instagram.

1009
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 4: This is this guy is being elevated as a fucking journalist.

1010
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: Jesus wept.

1011
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,919
Speaker 2: He later said on on Newstation on his show They

1012
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: Got Me Ai. It was really good and it did

1013
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 2: seem like something she would say. I'm gonna now play

1014
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 2: video in question to see if you think this is

1015
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: something that AOC would say.

1016
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 13: Sidney Sweeney looks like an Aryan goddess and the American

1017
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 13: Eagle jeans campaign is nazipaganda. I mean fuck watching that

1018
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 13: sultry little temptress squeeze into a Canadian text small with

1019
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 13: her bouncy little fun bags.

1020
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 5: Okay, it's oh my god, I don't know, no more,

1021
00:53:54,960 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 5: no more episode.

1022
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 3: Oh man, what a one of our greatest journalists. You know,

1023
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 3: AI really has to be you know, we've hit AGI

1024
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,479
Speaker 3: if it can if it can crack a mind as

1025
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 3: keen as Chris Woma.

1026
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 2: It was really good and it did seem like something

1027
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: she would say.

1028
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 10: Good.

1029
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 6: Don't even know her voice sounds unbelievable, unbelievable, some one

1030
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 6: of the most union things I've ever seen.

1031
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 4: I didn't watch that, and then wonder why she hasn't

1032
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 4: commented on hermas in the same breath treating indication of

1033
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 4: where our country's at.

1034
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: That AI video is eighty seconds long. It gets so

1035
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 2: much crazier, but we don't need to say anymore. The

1036
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 2: other incident of AI in the news, former CNN Chief

1037
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 2: Whiteous correspondent Jim Acosta interviewed in AI avatar impersonating a

1038
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: school shooting victim.

1039
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: Oh, no, goodness.

1040
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 4: It's one of those things that like every town or

1041
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 4: someone was doing.

1042
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, I caught this when it happened.

1043
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: Here's a video.

1044
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 9: I would like to know what your solution would be

1045
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 9: for gun violence.

1046
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 2: Great question. I believe in a mix of stronger gun

1047
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 2: control laws, mental health support, and community engagement.

1048
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 12: We need to create safe spaces for conversations and connections,

1049
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 12: making sure everyone feels seen and heard.

1050
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: It's about building a culture of kindness.

1051
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: And understanding.

1052
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 2: What do you think about that. I think that's a

1053
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 2: great idea, Joaquin.

1054
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: That's not even an answer. That's not an answer.

1055
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: This is one of the goodest things I've ever seen.

1056
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 3: Create a culture of kindness and understanding.

1057
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll fix it.

1058
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 2: Thanks, incredible humanity.

1059
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 4: Not a person that's someone's child.

1060
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 2: That's not someone's child, all right, Jim Acosta.

1061
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 4: Rome is just a generic well now.

1062
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 2: It's like it's it's it's not a person.

1063
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 10: This is yeah.

1064
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they've attempted to reanimate through cringe ji someone's

1065
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 4: kid and they look like a character in It's a small.

1066
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: World ycause the parents are involved in this process. Jim

1067
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: Acosta wrote on Blue Sky at four pm, I'll have

1068
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 2: a one of a kind interview with Hakeem Oliver. He

1069
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: died in the Parkland school shooting, but his parents have

1070
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: created an AI version of their son for a powerful

1071
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 2: message on gun violence. Unquote. You did not interview Jakim Oliver.

1072
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 2: That's that's that's not him. You did not interview that person.

1073
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: No, you did not. You didn't interview anybody.

1074
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: You have helped to spread a fake puppet of someone

1075
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: without their knowledge and consent, just as just as gross

1076
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 2: is doing it for like movie actors right who who

1077
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 2: have died. This is and you know, more more gross

1078
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 2: actually actually like significantly more gross.

1079
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't even suggest like it it wasn't even

1080
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 3: like willing to be like ban AR fifteen's or whatever. Yeah,

1081
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 3: like there was no nothing suggested here, Like I can't

1082
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 3: believe how milk toast for a dead person who was

1083
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 3: killed by an AR fifteen. It wasn't even willing this.

1084
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 3: It was just like vaguely new gun control and also

1085
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 3: a culture of kindness. But like can't even be specific

1086
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 3: this ghoul that you've made.

1087
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 2: You're putting fake words in someone else's like death mask

1088
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 2: mouth y'. Yes, it's so it's so unethical, Like I

1089
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 2: don't even know what to say. It doesn't work at

1090
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: CNN anymore, but my god, like this is not journalism

1091
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't want to like punch down on the

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Speaker 4: and I don't understand, like I have no parents who

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Speaker 4: have lost children right through my work, I've talked to

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Speaker 4: lots of them, well, and i'd like to and I

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Speaker 4: understand the desire to get your kid back in some

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Speaker 4: form and if sure, whoever the fuck came to them

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Speaker 4: and said, we're going to make an AI of your

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Speaker 4: child so it can argue with journalists about gun control.

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Speaker 4: Is a fucking ghoul perival.

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Speaker 2: No, the the fault here is on the people promoting technology,

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Speaker 2: and in effect, that's what Jim Acosta is doing here

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally no, because a journalist is totally irresponsible.

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Speaker 2: And profiting off of it. It's so gross. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: that was our AI news to close the episode. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: we couldn't end on the aoc ad instead had to

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Speaker 2: end on a bit of a more more sour note.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I genuinely want to know where that aoc ad goes.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna watch it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'll send it to you, James. Yeah, okay, we

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Speaker 2: reported the news.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 2: We reported the news.

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