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Speaker 1: Hey, what's up everybody. I'm Jameel Hill and welcome to politics.

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Speaker 1: And I heard podcast and unbothered production. Time to get spolitical.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Link starred Nfisa Callier led a moment of silence

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Speaker 1: to honor George Floyd on the fifth anniversary of his death.

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Speaker 1: And based off the reaction, you would have thought Fee

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Speaker 1: and the Links did something far worse than, say, a

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Speaker 1: police officer killing a man in the middle of a

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Speaker 2: And to make the league even less appealing, the Minnesota

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Speaker 2: Lynks decided to hold in front of a mostly empty

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Speaker 2: stadium a moment of silence for George Floyd. You remember him,

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Speaker 2: the fella who died with a fatal level of fentanyl

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Speaker 2: in his system and who had a long record of

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Speaker 2: criminalogy and violence, including against women. Yes, the WNBA thought

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Speaker 2: this was a good idea.

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Speaker 3: Of honoring our fallen heroes, our real fallen heroes. The

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Speaker 3: WNBA chose to honor George Floyd instead of honoring the

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Speaker 3: men and women who sacrificed their lives. So I have

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Speaker 3: the freedom to talk about this dump of a league,

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Speaker 3: the WNBA decided to honor Jorge.

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Speaker 4: Can I get a moment of silence for the WNBA

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Speaker 4: who is no longer going to be with us because

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Speaker 4: they are self destructed.

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Speaker 1: Things sure have changed since that alleged racial reckoning that

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Speaker 1: supposedly took place back in twenty twenty. We had celebrities

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Speaker 1: thinking they were freedom fighters because they posted black squares

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Speaker 1: on Instagram, had Nancy Pelosi and Congress thinking they were

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Speaker 1: members of the Door of Malaja, and NFL Commissioner Roger

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Speaker 1: Goodell out here cosplaying as a white abolitionist from the

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Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds.

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Speaker 5: We the National Football League admit we were wrong for

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Speaker 5: not listening to NFL players earlier and encourage all to

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Speaker 5: speak out and peacefully protests.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, the entire world protested the horrific murder

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Speaker 1: so many and sports use their platform, their voices, and

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Speaker 1: their resources to draw a line in the sand about dignity, decency,

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Speaker 1: and humanity. But on this fifth anniversary, the Lynks largely

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Speaker 1: stood alone in honoring Floyd. There was barely a mintion

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Speaker 1: not like this is the first time the Lynks found

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Speaker 1: themselves willing to stand alone. In twenty sixteen, months before

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Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick took a knee, it was the Links, led

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Speaker 1: by superstar Maya Moore, who spoke out after Alton Sterling

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Speaker 1: and Filando Castile were murdered by police, causing the Minneapolis

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Speaker 1: I was among those who knew that twenty twenty wasn't

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Speaker 1: briefly exceeded expectations. But it's easy to stand with black

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Speaker 1: people and against white supremacy when it's a popular trend

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Speaker 1: and there's some widespread agreement that what happened to Floyd

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Speaker 1: was wrong, even though that isn't the case now. But

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Speaker 1: the real separates from the fake when there is little

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Speaker 1: support and being in alignment with black empowerment and social

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Speaker 1: justice lessons, power freezes opportunities and loses political and social capital.

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Speaker 1: It certainly didn't take five years for the script to

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Speaker 1: be flipped, but this country is in the midst of

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Speaker 1: one of its deepest embraces of white supremacy, starting with

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Speaker 1: the current president, who most recently unapologetically spread the lie

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Speaker 1: that there is white genocide taking place in South Africa

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Speaker 1: in order to justify welcoming white South African quote unquote

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Speaker 1: refugees into the country with expedited paths to US citizenship. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: this administration is trying to end a program that revokes

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Speaker 1: the legal status of over five hundred thousand migrants who

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Speaker 1: are mostly from Haiti, Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela.

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Speaker 5: Gee.

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Speaker 1: I wonder what the difference is. The Sports world boldly

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Speaker 1: took a stand five years ago. We literally went from this.

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Speaker 6: Three team members, Marcus Smart, Vincent Poorier, and Ennis Canter

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Speaker 6: all came out to join peaceful protesters downtown in Boston. Yesterday,

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Speaker 6: Cantor was seen at the State House wearing his Celtics jersey.

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Speaker 4: He chanted, I can't.

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Speaker 6: Breathe with the other protesters. Cantor also tweeted a video

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Speaker 1: To party with Donald Trump at Mara Lago. We also

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Speaker 7: It's been ten days since George Floyd was brutally murdered.

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Speaker 7: How bit the Cubs do we need to ask you

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Speaker 7: to listen to your players, What would it take you

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Speaker 7: for one of us to be murdered by police brutality?

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Speaker 7: What if I was George Floyd, If I was George Floyd.

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Speaker 7: What if I George If I was George Floyd, If

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Speaker 7: I was George Floyd, If I was George Floyd. I

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Speaker 7: am George Floyd. I am I am About Aubert, I

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Speaker 7: am Erica, I am Tam or Right, I am.

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Speaker 5: Trayvon Martin, I am Walker Scott, I am Michael Brown,

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Speaker 5: I am Samuel the Boys.

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Speaker 7: I am Friend Smart, I'm Philip White, Georgie Baker. We

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Speaker 7: will not be silent. We as a peace from the protests.

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Speaker 7: It shouldn't take this long A little bit so on

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Speaker 7: behalf of the National Football League. This is what we

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Speaker 7: the players would like to hear. You stay.

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Speaker 5: We condemn racism and the systematic oppression.

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Speaker 7: Of black people. To this.

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Speaker 5: He's a handsome guy, but I wouldn't want to tackle him.

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Speaker 7: Shake Kwan Barkley, Where's shake one?

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Speaker 1: Every turn of progress in this country has been met

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Speaker 1: with backlash that is just as formidable. Jim Crow followed

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Speaker 1: the end of slavery and reconstruction, the Southern Strategy, mass incarceration,

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Speaker 1: and the war on drugs, followed the Civil Rights movement,

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Speaker 1: the MACA movement formulated after the election of President Barack Obama.

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Speaker 1: Eventually there will be another moment when progress is popular,

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Speaker 1: and when that happens, remember all of those who obeyed

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Speaker 1: without being asked in this current moment.

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Speaker 4: I'm Jamel Hill, and I approved this message.

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Speaker 1: My guest today has been making people laugh for decades,

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Speaker 1: but it's been well over a decade since he had

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Speaker 1: a comedy special on network television, and on May thirtieth,

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Speaker 1: he has a brand new comedy special dropping on Hulu now. Currently,

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Speaker 1: he has one of the most popular urban radio shows

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Speaker 1: in the country. Or on a daily basis, he talked

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Speaker 1: about current events and even his own healing after tragically

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Speaker 1: losing his son.

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Speaker 1: He's been very open about his grief journey and for

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Speaker 1: the purposes of this pod. He's also a huge fan

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Speaker 1: of Alabama football, and he has no shortage of opinions

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Speaker 1: about his squad. Coming up next Onspolitics, Ricky Smiley. All right,

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Speaker 1: Ricky again, thank you for joining me. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to start this podcast by asking you a

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Speaker 1: question I ask every guest that appears on politics and

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Speaker 1: that is name and athlete or a sports moment that

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Speaker 1: made you love sports.

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Speaker 5: Oh god, you know what the gold line fan nineteen

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Speaker 5: seventy nine Alabama versus Penn State, and Penn State had

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Speaker 5: the ball like on the one yard line and Alabama

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Speaker 5: named Major Ogilvie and he was number forty two and

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Speaker 5: he was toting that rock and I will never forget it.

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Speaker 7: I was at my god Risen Saw.

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Speaker 5: I was at my uncle Jesse's house sitting on the

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Speaker 5: edge of the bed watching the game and been Obama

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew something told me that it was going

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Speaker 1: to be related to Alabama football because I know that

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Speaker 1: to ask you, then, what has the post Nick saban

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Speaker 7: You know what?

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Speaker 5: You know, I played little league football my whole life,

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Speaker 5: and the discipline is just not there and I don't

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Speaker 5: see no, it just seems like gentle it's like gentle

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Speaker 5: I remember Julio Jones was telling the players, like some

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Speaker 5: Anthony Smiley, he just passed away a couple of months ago.

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Speaker 7: He was sixty. We grew up together, and I remember them.

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Speaker 5: They couldn't have mustache, they couldn't have beers, they had

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Speaker 5: at the program looking at all the other teams with

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Speaker 5: they would just kill these other teams. And I was

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Speaker 5: just so amazed by that, you know, and the reason

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Speaker 5: I'm a big Bama fan. I went to Alabama State University.

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Speaker 5: I went to an HBCU, but when they come to

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Speaker 5: I went on a bye week when Bama was getting

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Speaker 7: I went to my.

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Speaker 5: First step show that weekend, and that's the first time

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Speaker 7: So I became a Bama fan for real.

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Speaker 1: You know, Alabama has such a such a legacy, and

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Speaker 1: I know for fans this has not been an easy transition.

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Speaker 1: Is this something, like you said, the same level of

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Speaker 1: discipline that you are customer to seeing is just not there.

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Speaker 1: Is this something that you feel like is a leadership

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Speaker 5: When they when Alabama beat Georgia last year, you would

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Speaker 7: They was doing they.

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Speaker 5: Had two whites, not one white, and then got with

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Speaker 5: Tennessee is gonna thank that. But as well, and and

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Speaker 5: I'm like, the discipline is not there, you know, and

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Speaker 5: we need a Nick Saban like or Dionne Sanders, like

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Speaker 5: a no nonsense, not catering, not baby sitting.

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Speaker 7: Hey, we need a military style like that.

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Speaker 5: Really, discipline really is really really important.

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Speaker 4: In the program now, Ricky.

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Speaker 1: You know, in this day and age with nil, that's

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Speaker 1: to be. You know, I've been covering sports now for

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, right as I tell people, I'm older

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Speaker 1: And I remember I spent about six years covering college

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Speaker 4: And when you would go in the parking lots, you would.

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Speaker 1: See players that had hoopties like we all did in

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Speaker 5: It's funny, but I'll see you the clip. It's hilarious.

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Speaker 4: You definitely wouldn't. I could definitely see.

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00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 5: That I would make like like you look like the

441
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 5: type of person that I could not make eye contact

442
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 5: with in a moment.

443
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: That's real serious, That is true because as my friends

444
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: have told me, and even my husband tells me, he's like,

445
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 1: you are just the most giggly person. It doesn't take

446
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: a lot to make me laugh. And considering how much

447
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: I've laughed at your humor throughout the years, I know

448
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: you would be cutting completely.

449
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 5: Up when I tell you I like the brat that's

450
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 5: on my morning show. They cannot have a meeting with

451
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 5: us there together. It don't work, It don't I can't

452
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 5: stand her. I can't stand for the brat to be

453
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 5: in my periphtal vision. I can't be in a room

454
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 5: with Smilah. I can't be in a room with Porscha Williams.

455
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 5: I can't stand them. I can't be in a room

456
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 5: with candy birds. These are my enemies when I'm trying

457
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 5: to be productive. I can't be in a room with them.

458
00:24:54,359 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 5: I'm not I haven't matured yet.

459
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 4: This comedy special.

460
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: You know, as you mentioned like you're like a real

461
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: performer who does a lot of different things. What are maybe,

462
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: without giving too much away, what are maybe some different

463
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: wrinkles that you put in this that people might not expect.

464
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 5: Oh, I told some real stories. I'm a great storytelling.

465
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 5: It was an eighty HD set. It was all over

466
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 5: the place. It was not structured, just like my papers

467
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 5: in college and my homework from subject to subject, from

468
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 5: this to that, from that to this.

469
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 7: You laughing at this because you think I'm talking about

470
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 7: old people.

471
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 5: Now I'm over here talking about little Daryl something over here.

472
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 7: Now I'm talking about, you know, being.

473
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 5: Older and having a small good and all of this

474
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 5: stuff is just.

475
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 7: You know how Dave Chapelle set is just so structured

476
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 7: and him and Dion call nah, it didn't. It don't

477
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 7: work out for me that way.

478
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 5: I was I may, I may sees and C minuses

479
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 5: and sometimes a C plus.

480
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 7: Maybe a beat every now and then. But it was funny,

481
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 7: that's all that matter. It was. And of course you know,

482
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 7: I'm not in no shade on them. They are hilarious.

483
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 5: I wish I could have a structure set like Deer

484
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 5: and Cold and Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock and all

485
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 5: those guys. I was all over the place, and that's

486
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 5: who I am. That's who I've always been for thirty

487
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 5: five years of send up.

488
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: So it sounds like back in school, Rickie, you was

489
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 1: the class cut up.

490
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 4: That's what the guys sound like.

491
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 7: You already I can't tell you.

492
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 5: I was not allowed to go to assembly programs in

493
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 5: the twelfth grade.

494
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 7: I was a food real real skinny, had the high

495
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 7: box fade. I was a hype man at the basketball

496
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 7: games in high school. Come on, everybody had one.

497
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can definitely see you doing that to that end.

498
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: The title of it, you know, foolish is what I guess.

499
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: Explain what that is about.

500
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 5: One time we did a live broadcast from somewhere. I

501
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 5: was doing the morning show. I think we was in Greenville,

502
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 5: South Carolina. We have this event where we're supposed to

503
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 5: where they're mentoring young men at risk kids and they

504
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 5: bring them to this event.

505
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 7: I was cutting up so bad.

506
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 5: I was doing comedy, hosting the radio show, roasting people

507
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 5: in the audience. I had a whino that I meant

508
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 5: I invited him. He was drunk, his girlfriend was drunk.

509
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 5: I had them dancing, and my producer said, you know

510
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 5: what her name is, Kim.

511
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 7: She said, you know what she said, You're foolish. You're

512
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 7: really foolish.

513
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 5: She was like, I can't say I'm disappointed because you

514
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 5: were funny, but I can't keep you on track. She said,

515
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 5: you're foolish, And that's what that said is and I

516
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 5: always think about it.

517
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 7: I thought about her when I can't with the.

518
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: Title foolish, all right, that seems appropriate. Now, you know

519
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: you said that any your special that you're telling, you know,

520
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: real stories, and I think one of the more recent

521
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: stories that people have seen about you is that you

522
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 1: discovered that you had some some more children.

523
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 4: You had some kids.

524
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: So what has fatherhood looked like for you at this stage?

525
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: And especially because these are young kids? So what does

526
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: that look like for you?

527
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 7: Fun when I tell you we went to I was

528
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 7: I was doing.

529
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 5: Backwards flips on trampoline yesterday at the Tampline Park.

530
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 4: Ain't hurt nothing.

531
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 7: Then you didn't break that still athletic.

532
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 5: Still could talk for football fifty yards down the field,

533
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 5: still got to eat on the on the football. They

534
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 5: started basketball training tomorrow. I met a lady in the grocer.

535
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 5: I said, no, offense, man, did you play?

536
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 7: Did you ball? She said, here, sir, I bought it.

537
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 7: It was some college in Mississippi.

538
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 5: I said, I'm looking for a private basketball coach for

539
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 5: my twins because I got them already signed up for

540
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 5: tennis and I have them sign up for gymnastic because

541
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 5: I think sports saved my life. And by the way,

542
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 5: my son played college ball at Alabama State. He played basketball,

543
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 5: and I want I want my girls out there on

544
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 5: the floor. I want them on the tennis court because

545
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 5: discipline just I don't know what it is about sports.

546
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 5: It just brings out the best in people. You know,

547
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 5: it's a lot of It would take two hours to

548
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 5: just break down when I, you know, with sports mean

549
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 5: to me and a lot of other at risk kids

550
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 5: or whatever were they But I just want them to

551
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 5: have the best. But being a dad having dinner ready

552
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 5: when they when they get out and they get here

553
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 5: about three point thirty, they're hungry because they don't.

554
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 7: Get lunch until like eleven o'clock.

555
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 5: So when they come in the I always make sure

556
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 5: I have a skill of the corn bread coming out.

557
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 7: Of the oven.

558
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 5: They love pinto beans, smoke, turkey necks and corn bread,

559
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 5: and I swear I have to cook it once a week,

560
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 5: maybe twice a week. They absolutely love it and they

561
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 5: just a lot of fun. They're beautiful girls. It's like

562
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 5: I'm in love. I hug and kissed them all day,

563
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 5: all day, every five minutes, I cannot stop hugging and

564
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 5: kissing on them.

565
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 7: And we get bathtime at six point thirty.

566
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 5: I got them all a tight schedule and it's been

567
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 5: one of them. I feel like I feel like God

568
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 5: gave them to me to save my life because I

569
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 5: was just shraught when my son died in mind. You

570
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 5: you know, I've been knowing them their whole life, but

571
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,959
Speaker 5: I didn't know that they were my biological daughters. And

572
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 5: when we found out about it, I remember exactly where

573
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 5: I was standing. I remember it watching the sun turn

574
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 5: back to its original color because everything was black and white.

575
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 7: You know, and it that's my life now. I love

576
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 7: them and hugs and kisses all day.

577
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 5: At one o'clock in the morning, they're climbing over me,

578
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 5: a knee in my face, coming out of their room,

579
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 5: coming they getting into bed with me, and they curl

580
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 5: up under me. They looked just alike. I'm talking identical, identical.

581
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 5: They they don't know who they are, that's how much

582
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 5: they look alike. So, uh, it's a lot of fun.

583
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 5: It's a blessing.

584
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: Well but still though, how how surprising you know, was

585
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: that to discover that you had twin girls that you

586
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: didn't know about.

587
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was. I was real surprised. I was.

588
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 5: I was shocked, and uh, and and not in not

589
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 5: in a bad way. It just gave me life and

590
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 5: I just into action and was trying to think of

591
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 5: every single thing that I could do.

592
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 7: But I was I was really, really, really surprised.

593
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: You mentioned how it seems like they were a part

594
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: of your healing process.

595
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 4: You you know, you lost your son to an overdose.

596
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: You've been extremely transparent about what that grieving journey has

597
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: looked like in your transparency and that you know, that's

598
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: something that is so unimaginable for any parent to go through.

599
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: But what made you want to through both you know,

600
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: videos you've done talking about it publicly, your book A

601
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: side showed what made you want to be really transparent

602
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: about what this grieving process looks like for you?

603
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 5: Well, well, I'm a public figure. I'm a radio personality.

604
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 5: I'm on the radio every morning. Other people have lost

605
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 5: kids also. Some people kids were murdered. Some people had

606
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 5: to go to the morgue to identify their children's body.

607
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 5: Some people have lost more than one kid.

608
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what I mean.

609
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 5: And I had to figure out how to talk about it.

610
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 7: Uh.

611
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 5: That was part of my therapy. And I'm in therapy. Uh,

612
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 5: and I have to just I have to talk about it.

613
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 5: I have to learn how to feel and speak about it.

614
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 7: Uh.

615
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 5: It has definitely helped helped with the healing process.

616
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 7: Uh.

617
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 5: And I talk about it a lot, especially on my

618
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 5: radio show because there's thousands of parents out there that

619
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 5: have lost kids, and I'm getting calls and on a

620
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 5: messenger on Facebook and Instagram, and I really click on

621
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 5: that little call but and call people back, and I

622
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 5: have to talk to hundreds and hundreds of parents who

623
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 5: have lost kids. A lady in La lost to of

624
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 5: her sons. They were both killed at the same time

625
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 5: a week or two after my son died, and she

626
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 5: had absolutely no resources, and it wasn't hard for me

627
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 5: to do. I got focused on her and her situation

628
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 5: because I had two sons and my other son if

629
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 5: it would have been my two sons, so I had

630
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 5: to find a way to help her to make sure

631
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 5: that since she lost everything that you have, that her sons.

632
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 7: Were able to get buried.

633
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 5: I just think about that stuff because it's not about you,

634
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 5: and sometimes God allows situations to happen to use you

635
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 5: to see how you can help others, and also use

636
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 5: you to save, to try to save people, like to

637
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 5: get people to talk to people about Narkham, to talk

638
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 5: to people about going to NA and AA. The Wednesday

639
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 5: before my son's funeral, I went down to the Salvation

640
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 5: Army to serve and I just wanted to show God

641
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 5: that despite of everything that I'm going through, I'm still

642
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 5: willing to serve. I'm still here and I'm still a servant.

643
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 5: And I had all those I get real emotional talking

644
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 5: about this. I had all those homeless people coming through

645
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 5: the line trying to get a hot dog, a handful

646
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 5: of chips, some soud Kraft, a slice of cake, and

647
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 5: a cup of punch to come through that say hang

648
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 5: Rick side by your son, man, I lost my son too.

649
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 5: He lost his son and he's homeless. And that's why

650
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 5: you have to do this stuff. That's why you have

651
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 5: to get out here much as given, much is required,

652
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 5: and get out here and do the work for the people.

653
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 5: Because God is looking at all of us in all

654
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 5: of our situations. This is a test and what are

655
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 5: you going to do when that test comes? Sometimes the

656
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 5: tests come losing a loved one. How are you gonna

657
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 5: handle this situation? So if you handle this situation, are

658
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 5: you ready to go to whatever? The next level?

659
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 7: Is a test? A test is not.

660
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 5: Just your washing, your your your washer, your dryer breaking down,

661
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 5: and your car not starting. Sometimes it's something that that

662
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 5: will that that you will be and what's crazy.

663
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 7: The test continued because.

664
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Speaker 5: On the two year on the two year anniversary of

665
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 5: my son's death, the day of my son anniversary, January

666
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 5: twenty ninth, I'm dropping off clothes at Davenport and Harry's

667
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 5: funeral home for my uncle Bruce that I was raised with,

668
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 5: the one that played Forbama, that died a couple of

669
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 5: months ago. You know, I'm dropping. I'm literally dropping off clothes,

670
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 5: you know. And but God is so good he let

671
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 5: the sun shine that day. I turned the R and

672
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 5: b stationed on. He didn't allow me to feel sad.

673
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 5: I just went on with business.

674
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 7: I liked.

675
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 5: My uncle would have wanted me to do. My uncles

676
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 5: like my big brother, we shared rooms together. We slept

677
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 5: in a bed together in the dorn at Paul Brown

678
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 5: Hall when he was playing Obama. When I went down

679
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 5: there that weekend, women two beds and I had to

680
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 5: sleep in the room with him and big old Mark

681
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 5: Jackson played center and Bruce played outside linebacker.

682
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 7: And I'm squeezing over in a corner and I had to.

683
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 5: I had to to make sure that his funeral was

684
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 5: what he wanted.

685
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 7: He was a heart transplant recipient.

686
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 5: And the one year anniversary, you know, the whole, big, shunning,

687
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 5: sharp interview that blew up the shot heard across the world.

688
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 7: And it wasn't the fact that the interview, was the

689
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 7: fact that it was.

690
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 5: All lies and everybody believed it and attacked me and

691
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 5: my family. And that was the one year anniversary of

692
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 5: Brandon's death when I actually felt Brandon's death. You know,

693
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 5: you don't feel it until a year later, because the

694
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 5: only difference is you don't have a casket, and you

695
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 5: don't have flowers, and you don't have condolences. So you're

696
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 5: trying to heal that one year anniversary. It's like it

697
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 5: happened all over again, exceptly you don't have a funeral

698
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 5: arrangements and you're not busy comfanying your other kids and

699
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 5: your family members, and this interview come out and not

700
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 5: only are you being attack, your kids being attacked, your

701
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 5: family's being attacked, and it's.

702
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 7: Like, you know, another tense. How are you going to

703
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 7: overcome all of these obstacles? What what are you going

704
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 7: to do?

705
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, You can't get enough beat

706
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 5: with nobody you got. I have to answer to miss

707
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 5: cat the Hughes. I don't want her call to me.

708
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 5: You know, because I work for people. I work for

709
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 5: Miss Captain Hughes and Apple Biggins and and we're trying

710
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 5: to close a deal with Disney and stuff and whatever.

711
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 5: I got to move a certain way. I don't, you know,

712
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 5: work for myself or whatever. And I'm not going to

713
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 5: get into no beef that will get other people hurt

714
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 5: and killed and harassed and all this kind of stuff.

715
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 7: I had to keep it moving, you know.

716
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 5: So it's just stuff that that that you know, that

717
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 5: you go through. But yeah, that's why I talk about

718
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 5: it because other people out here going through worse and

719
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 5: h you know, you just.

720
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 7: Have to do it right.

721
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: And obviously you put yourself in a situation where you've

722
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,280
Speaker 1: seen what people are going through in an up close way.

723
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: I want to ask you more about that, and definitely

724
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: about some other topics. Got a couple of football topics

725
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: for you as well, But we just have to take

726
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: a very quick break and we'll be back with more

727
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: with Ricky Smiley. Ricky, before we went to break, you

728
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 1: were talking about, you know, obviously referring to kat Williams

729
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: and some of the things that he said when he

730
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: did the interview with Shanna Sharp. He had a lot

731
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: of criticisms for not just you, but a lot of

732
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: your comedian colleagues. You chose to, you said, respond in

733
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 1: a way because you have to move a certain way.

734
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: But sitting back now seeing that all that's been said,

735
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: is there any part of you that wishes you would

736
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: have responded differently?

737
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 7: Nah?

738
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 5: Nah, no, because that wasn't a good time for me

739
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 5: to be responding to nothing like that. I was going

740
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 5: with through grief. Yeah, you understand.

741
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 7: I was. I was going through a terrible time, you know,

742
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 7: and you can't you can't crash out.

743
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 5: I just had to stay focused on, you know, stay

744
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 5: in therapy and stay.

745
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 7: Focused on what I was focusing on.

746
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 5: It was always like you was fighting that, but you're

747
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 5: dealing with the pain of losing your son that one

748
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 5: year anniversary and all of a sudden lies and you're

749
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 5: being attacked on the internet.

750
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 7: And it's crazy.

751
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 5: Because I was on the radio and I was having

752
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 5: a because I saw my first fifteen my first thirteen

753
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 5: minutes of the Ricky Smiley Morning Show with gossp Music,

754
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 5: and I was really having a moment where I was

755
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 5: I'll never forget it. Jonathan mc reynold's Mayor bad days

756
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 5: prove that God is good. That's one that's a record

757
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 5: that I that I really go to when I think

758
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 5: about that situation with my son, and people took that

759
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 5: clip of me crying and made it as if that's

760
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 5: because of what was said on the Shannon Sharp interview

761
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 5: and how people would just lie. The only thing that

762
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 5: bothered me about that is just the lies and how

763
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 5: people would just take a clip of anything and put

764
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 5: it with that just to create something to get clicks to.

765
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 7: You know, but my fans know me, My fans know

766
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 7: who I am.

767
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to get new fans and all of this,

768
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 5: and some fans I don't even want because if you

769
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 5: believe anywhere in your heart all of this stuff that

770
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 5: was said about me, then you know you you entitled

771
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 5: to that or whatever. And I'm not out here to

772
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 5: change to try to change nobody in mind that's already

773
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 5: made up.

774
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. I'm focused on my fans

775
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 7: or whatever.

776
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 5: If deal humanly say I'm good, if Pastor key On

777
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 5: say I'm good, a bitious Joseph Walker say I'm good.

778
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 5: If Ben Crump say I'm good, David Talbot, will Packer,

779
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 5: people that mattered to me, Barack and Michelle Obama.

780
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 7: You if I'm good with y'all. If you said that you.

781
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 5: Don't want to have anything else to do with me,

782
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 5: I would lose a lot of sleep because I have

783
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 5: a lot of respect for you.

784
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 7: I've been following you a long time.

785
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 5: It's people like yourself, and mentors and people like Steve

786
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 5: and Said and.

787
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 7: Mayor Randall Wolfing, whoofan.

788
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 5: Mayor Keisha lance Bottom that went to work for that

789
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 5: Biden administration, President Biden who wrote me a personal handwritten

790
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 5: letter when my son died.

791
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 7: That stuff matter.

792
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 5: If any of those people had said something about me

793
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 5: like that or decided that they don't fool me because

794
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 5: of what was said, I would actually lose sleep. I

795
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 5: don't care about what people think. I'm the grandson of

796
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 5: Maddie and Ernest Smiley and Damy Armor. I'm proud of

797
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 5: who I am, and I don't have no regrets about

798
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 5: anything because that ain't That don't make me less of

799
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 5: a man. You could use single out one of my

800
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 5: characters to try to emasculate or whatever. That's fine. I

801
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 5: do Little Darryl. I do Joe with It from Joe

802
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 5: with It, and then do the rauma theres. I do

803
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 5: mct bag. We Miss Roberts do a lot of characters.

804
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 5: I was raised by grandparents and great grandparents. Me imitating

805
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 5: them started out with a prank phone call. So it

806
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 5: started out doing prank phone calls on the radio. And

807
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 5: then Bernie Jenkins came into and I got kids, I

808
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 5: got grandkids.

809
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 7: I raised, you know, young man.

810
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 5: I had three college athletes to come out of my house.

811
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 5: I had a running back Middle Tennessee State University. My

812
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 5: nephew there was raised here, you know, football practice. TJ

813
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 5: played for my house college, Milique lay for Alabama State.

814
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 5: Did a good job as the best I could as

815
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 5: a parent. Took it kids that was not mine, biologically

816
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 5: raised them and they are successful adults now.

817
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 7: So if I'm such a bad person, then why God

818
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 7: keep blessing me?

819
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: As you look at this part of your career, You've

820
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: accomplished so much, You've been on radio for a long

821
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: time and been a real staple in people's lives.

822
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 4: What at this stage in your career continues to keep

823
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 4: you excited.

824
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 7: I like performing.

825
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 5: I just have a good time walking on stage. It's

826
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 5: that simple. Television shows not so much because you're trying

827
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 5: to memorize lines and hair and makeup and all of

828
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 5: that stuff and wardrobe or whatever. I love to get

829
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 5: shop and walk out on stage in front of a

830
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 5: live audience. The Martin Lawrence Tool was probably one of.

831
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 7: The greatest things that I ever done.

832
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 5: The Martin Lawrence Tour had opportunity to open for the

833
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 5: Kings of Comedy, you know, back in the day or whatever,

834
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 5: and the opportunities. I was out on tour with Fantase,

835
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 5: I tour it with Mike Epps. I did the Southern

836
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 5: Soulfest tour with Earth, Wind and Fire and like thirty

837
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 5: five years or whatever. So I've had a great time.

838
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 5: I have nothing else to prove. I'm just trying to

839
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 5: have a good time. I love working with the Disney

840
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 5: Dreamers Academy. I love being in a position where I

841
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 5: can help out with the.

842
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 7: It's a girls' school. I can't think of the name

843
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 7: of it right now, but it's in Kenya.

844
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 5: These young ladies are saved from arranged marriages and rape

845
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 5: or whatever. So we got you know, We've been donating

846
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 5: to that every single year and just doing stuff in

847
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 5: the community.

848
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 7: And so just get out here and show that you're

849
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 7: still funny. Or whatever.

850
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 5: But what happens is you put yourself in a position

851
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 5: so you can help others.

852
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 7: You know, I don't need anything else. I have my

853
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,479
Speaker 7: own you.

854
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 5: Know, I have, you know, all the little things that

855
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 5: I like to do, and I just like keeping my

856
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 5: life simple. But I can make a difference in other

857
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 5: people lives who can't do anything for themselves.

858
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 4: As I'm sure you have observed.

859
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: Even though you didn't have a specialist, you said you

860
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: still have hadn't had a special in twelve years. You've

861
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: still been out there performing. But I'm sure you've observed

862
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: how the climate and how comedy has changed. A lot

863
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: of comedians have made note of the fact. Some have

864
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: observed or complained, depending on how you think about it,

865
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: that the audience these days is way more sensitive and that, yeah,

866
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: so I need I would love to hear your perspective

867
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: about comedians that feel like they can't be themselves on

868
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: stage because of how the audience responds to certain comedy.

869
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 7: I agree with them, and I I was with Dave

870
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 7: Shapel every single step of the way.

871
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 5: Somebody went on says and talked about tall, skinny people

872
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 5: with a beard that wear glasses, I would crack up.

873
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 5: And my thing is if you sensitive and you can't

874
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 5: take a joke, stay at home. You can't tell people

875
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 5: what to say. You want to go and attack somebody,

876
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 5: to go attack some of the mag of people with

877
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 5: all that racism. Stop worrying about what comedians that we

878
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 5: trying to entertain and get your line.

879
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 7: Away from all that kind of stuff.

880
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 5: And you want to pick about everything and don't say

881
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 5: this this way.

882
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 7: We say what's funny, and I'm not changing.

883
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 5: If I think something is funny, I'm going to talk

884
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 5: about it because the only thing that I'm saying is

885
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 5: what everybody else is already thinking because it comes because right,

886
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 5: because that's.

887
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 7: Why it's funny, because hey, yeah.

888
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 5: That makes sense, you know. But but yeah, people are

889
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 5: way too sensitive. I do miss comedy from the nineties.

890
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 5: You said whatever you wanted to say it and it

891
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 5: was worse than the seventies when Richard Pryor was on

892
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 5: stage and Eddie Murphy the things that or whatever, And it's.

893
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 7: Still funny to this day.

894
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 5: And I laugh and I laugh if it's funny period.

895
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: Well, I think you said a key phrase there, if

896
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: it's funny, because sometimes I wonder and this is just

897
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: this is just my outside opinion. Is it about the

898
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: audience being sensitive or is it about the fact that

899
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: some people try to be funny, And especially if we

900
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: talking about more taboo provocative things where you have to

901
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: like really nail that joke. If you won't go there,

902
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: you gotta nail it. And a lot of comedians can't

903
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: do that.

904
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 5: It's got to be way more funny then it is offensive.

905
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 5: And let me give you a good analogy what I

906
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 5: give to young comedians that I'm mentoring. If I give

907
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 5: you an onion and I say, eat this onion, how

908
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 5: would it taste bitter?

909
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 7: Right? Correct? We'll make your eyes water? Right?

910
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 5: But what if I take that same onion and chop

911
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 5: it up and sawtead with some gravy and some chicken

912
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 5: on top, and put the top on there that thing

913
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 5: smother smother real good or whatever. You eat the same onion, right,

914
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 5: you got to make you got to make it taste good.

915
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 7: It just can't be a raw onion. It's got to

916
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 7: be wrapped up. And they got to be so busy

917
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 7: laughing till they're not offended. You understanding, because because shock don't.

918
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 5: Equals laughter, Like I like I was coaching a comic.

919
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 5: I was like, hey, you got a lot of cuss

920
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 5: words in there, but the cuss words need to be

921
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 5: wrapped in the joke.

922
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 7: The cuss word need to be the plunchline.

923
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 5: And when I explained him and gave him an example,

924
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 5: he was like, own, that makes sense. I said, yeah,

925
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 5: take those other cuss words out because you don't need them,

926
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 5: because you're just cussing just to be cussing. But if

927
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 5: that cuss word put some sprinkles on that donut for you,

928
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 5: then yeah, use it.

929
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.

930
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 5: So it's not about It's all about it's about how

931
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 5: you do it, and that's important.

932
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 4: Well, the men I you.

933
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: You know, you've seen how comedy has evolved from a

934
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: content standpoint, but it feels like the pathway that in

935
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: which comedian has become successful has also changed a lot.

936
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 4: So from your perspective, what has been the biggest.

937
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: Change from when you were making your way as a

938
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: comedian to how comedians have to get on now?

939
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 5: Oh man a coming now can get on the internet

940
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 5: and make funny skits and just have an audience. They

941
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 5: just have to play ketch up learning how to perform.

942
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 5: That makes sense. We had to learn how to perform,

943
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 5: and we had to play catch up learning how to

944
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 5: act and do skits. So it's just everything just kind

945
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 5: of in my opinion, everything just kind of reversed.

946
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 7: Like Daisy Vans is. This is one of my mentees.

947
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 7: That's like my little nephew.

948
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 5: Was doing skits and I hit him up when there saying, hey,

949
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 5: you need to come over here and let's get you

950
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 5: on stage so you can do concerts. I said, you

951
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 5: have a big fan base, but you're missing out of money.

952
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 5: And he came to Birmingham. I was the first one

953
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 5: to good Daisy Banks on stage and stuff. So you

954
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 5: know when I see the Daisy Banks just hilarious to

955
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 5: beat someone was a real good.

956
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 7: Mentee.

957
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 5: I need to call having and talk to her while

958
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 5: I'm gonna text her. I gave her some little notes

959
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 5: we were on tour, and I was like, why did

960
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 5: you do this? Well, why didn't you do this like this?

961
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 5: You had the audience right there, like I was on

962
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 5: her one night so bad. I put her in my

963
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 5: dressing room and close that door, and you would have

964
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 5: thought I was Nick Saban. I was giving it to her.

965
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 5: I didn't think nothing else of it. So the next night.

966
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 5: I think we were on the Martin launch to the

967
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 5: next night. She went out on stage and did exactly

968
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 5: what I advised her to do, and.

969
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 7: It blew up.

970
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 5: She came off stage and she grabbed me and hugged me,

971
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 5: and we were chopping around. You would have thought that

972
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 5: we had won the national championship. And that's what mentorship

973
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 5: is all about, you know, pulling people to the side.

974
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 7: If you want help, you're willing to listen, if you're willing.

975
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 5: To to try to gather some wisdom and figure out

976
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 5: you do this better than me, How can I do

977
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 5: what you do? Help me out or whatever, you know,

978
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 5: So anybody's willing to listen.

979
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 7: There aren't comings out here that.

980
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 5: Will share the information just to see them get better,

981
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 5: because you know, when we're not selling tickets anymore, we

982
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 5: might they we might become their opening act and then

983
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 5: we could still.

984
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 7: Work because people.

985
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 5: You know, sometime at Flip I've had people open for

986
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 5: me where I was be opening at you know, so

987
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 5: you just never forget how they treated you.

988
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 4: Right, Pivoting is something a little bit serious. I know.

989
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: I know that you're a proud member of Omega SCI five.

990
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: My husband is also a cue by the way, and

991
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: you know, obviously you know somewhat recently there's a very

992
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: serious situation at Southern University. Caleb Wilson, former student there,

993
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: allegedly killed during a hazing ritual while pledging.

994
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 4: For me scide Fi. What were kind of your thoughts.

995
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: I know you've been kind of public and vocal about

996
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: offering support for the family and just expressing your condolences,

997
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: But what were your thoughts about this, especially considering naturally

998
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: this brought people to a place of questioning the purpose

999
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: and the legacies of some of these black fraternities and sororities.

1000
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 7: Oh, what's hurtful is here's what's really hurtful.

1001
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 5: I came to Omegas, I find because of what it

1002
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 5: was founded on, not the culture that was created. I

1003
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 5: don't think Bishop at the a Love would have punched

1004
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 5: nobody in the chest, you know, just love Cooper and

1005
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 5: Coleman found it or make us I find, you know,

1006
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 5: Howard universe in nineteen eleven, and I don't think. I

1007
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 5: don't I don't a lot of these guys that started

1008
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 5: this culture. I don't care if it started in the eighties.

1009
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 5: I don't care if it started. I don't care when

1010
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 5: it started.

1011
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 7: It is wrong.

1012
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 5: In twenty five years in the frat, I have never

1013
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 5: put my hands on anybody.

1014
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 7: And let's talk about it for a second.

1015
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 5: You don't know what somebody went through to get to

1016
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 5: where they are, And who are you to put somebody?

1017
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 7: You are already a man. If you make it out of

1018
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 7: the projects and make the college, you are already a man.

1019
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 5: Who are you to put your hands on somebody swinging

1020
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 5: wood and all that stuff. I understand the culture of everything,

1021
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 5: it's traditionally been done. People was traditionally molested or whatever,

1022
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 5: and rape and stuff by family members.

1023
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 7: But that don't make it right. That don't mean you

1024
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 7: continue the tradition. Not our pastors.

1025
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 5: We grew up in a church where pastors talking about

1026
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 5: breaking the generational curse, the curses, and it's just wrong.

1027
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 7: And I support Cavid with the family.

1028
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 5: And I will say, some of these people and a

1029
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 5: lot of these organizations, the founders never would have picked founders,

1030
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 5: never would have picked them. And some of these people

1031
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 5: entered the organization and make all of these Greek organizations

1032
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 5: that's set out to do good or whatever. And I'm

1033
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 5: still I'm still an active member of Alpha Phi Chapter

1034
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 5: I came in Spring Sorrow chapter two thousand, twenty five

1035
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 5: years in whatever. But I'm not going to be a

1036
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 5: partner of a culture, and culture starts with cult.

1037
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 7: You understand, it's gang activity.

1038
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 5: I deal with my fraternity brothers one at a time,

1039
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 5: no more than two, maybe three or whatever. Because man,

1040
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 5: the last five physical altercations I've gotten into.

1041
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 7: It with as a man was with you. Why why

1042
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 7: I need the kind of play feeling like? Now what

1043
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 7: am I a part of? Right?

1044
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 5: I'm a member of KK Side. I don't have no issues.

1045
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 5: I'm a member of the SCLC. I don't have any issues.

1046
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 5: I'm a member of the NAACPE. I don't have no issues.

1047
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 5: I'm marched with Alabama State and be around band members

1048
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 5: and former band members.

1049
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 7: There are no issues. I'm a march and Crimson piper.

1050
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 5: I can go to Tuskegee and be around former band

1051
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 5: members and band members.

1052
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 7: I don't have no issues.

1053
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 5: Right, Why is always some issues with my fraternity and

1054
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 5: my brothers Because that's a culture, you know, giving people

1055
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 5: access to be disrespectful and to say stuff. Man, this

1056
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 5: don't represent James Clyburn. This don't represent being crump.

1057
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 7: So how James.

1058
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 5: Clyburn, who went out there and campaigned for Joe Biden

1059
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 5: and Barack Obama and they both became president. Look at

1060
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 5: me and say, hey, brother Smiley being crump was at

1061
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 5: in the audience when I shot My special stayed.

1062
00:56:59,480 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 7: At my house.

1063
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 5: Nothing but love and respect, and Lord Jordan's and all

1064
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 5: of these other people, all of these other people that's

1065
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 5: out here doing stuff, seeding people in the community.

1066
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 7: The Bishop Joseph Walker, the senior pastor of Mount.

1067
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 5: Sign Missionary Baptist Church in National Tendessee, and he's the

1068
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 5: presiding Bishop of full A Gospel, who is.

1069
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 7: My friend, brother and my best friend. Never had any

1070
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 7: issues with him, Never had any issues with Pastor keep Norman,

1071
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 7: and we out here doing community service.

1072
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 5: All of these great Omega men, never had any issue

1073
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 5: with But there's always some actually ass do.

1074
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 7: And them damn Greek letters is all they have to me.

1075
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 7: They don't have nothing else. They came in second place

1076
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 7: in a step show in ninety two and you can't

1077
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 7: tell them shit. I'm over here feeding kids in Africa,

1078
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 7: doing community service and.

1079
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 5: Out here trying to help folks, and you get in

1080
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 5: pull it to the side and being disrespected by in.

1081
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 7: This game like mentality in mindset, and I'm.

1082
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 5: Not throwing my friend under the bus because everything that

1083
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 5: the founders founded and on I'm with it. I believe

1084
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 5: and I'll be a cute forever. It ain't nobody gonna

1085
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 5: do nothing about what I just said. I called Caleb

1086
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 5: Wilson's dad and offered my condolence because I'm a dad

1087
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 5: that also lost his son. Know what he said, you

1088
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 5: are the first member of your fraternity to call and

1089
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 5: offer your condolence. And then mister Walker called him right

1090
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,959
Speaker 5: after me. I don't have to go along and get along.

1091
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 5: Call me Kat, put me on purple alert, call me

1092
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 5: whatever you want to call me. I'm comedian Ricke Smiley.

1093
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 7: I know who I am. I'm the grandson of Ernest

1094
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 7: and Madismid. See. I know who I am.

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Speaker 5: I don't need no or no organization for validation. Said,

1096
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,919
Speaker 5: I can say good night and throw up the peace sign.

1097
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 5: I don't have to throw up the hook, and I

1098
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 5: don't have to wear a shirt. But I'm gonna go

1099
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 5: to frank meeting if I feel like they're going to

1100
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 5: help somebody in the community. My mentor, my one of

1101
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 5: my mentors, Pastor John Kane, a great Reverend John King

1102
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 5: in Birmingham, Alabama, who's a father figure than me. He's

1103
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 5: my brother, I'm not his biological son. Man, he don't

1104
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 5: treat he treat me with respects. So why why should

1105
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 5: I be into it with something as she has doue

1106
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 5: with some Greek letters on and some gold.

1107
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 7: Boots, answering answering his question?

1108
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 5: And I mean that, and I said on that in

1109
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 5: every queue know where I live in Birmingham, come see me.

1110
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 7: You don't like when I said, I meant when I said,

1111
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 7: come see me?

1112
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 4: Are these are these concerns that you have?

1113
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,479
Speaker 1: Are these things that you have brought to the larger

1114
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: membership to say, hey, we need to address.

1115
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 7: This, Jamille. I spoke about this at the undergrad summit.

1116
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 5: I said, stop putting hands on people. I said, we

1117
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 5: are one pleasure process away from somebody going to the

1118
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 5: trump and clearing out a whole chapter. What if somebody

1119
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 5: grew up and they don't have a father and they

1120
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 5: felt that have been beating him in his mama his

1121
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 5: whole life, and he get online because he's looking for

1122
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 5: everything that I was looking for in the frat or whatever,

1123
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 5: only to get the hell beat out of them, Right,

1124
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 5: and somebody snapped and clear out.

1125
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 7: A whole chapter. I try.

1126
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 5: I'm I'm doing that to try to save lives. You

1127
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 5: understand what it's already these organizations. Nobody even wants to

1128
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 5: give these organizations insurance. And if I'm not mistaken, it's

1129
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 5: down to one insurance company asking us your husband and myself,

1130
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 5: that ain't what we represent.

1131
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 7: This stuff is just wrong. It ain't no sin.

1132
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 5: That kid was supposed to graduate college. Did you see

1133
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 5: the video of his mother walk across the stace.

1134
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 7: I think she felt, Yeah, how do you think she felt?

1135
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 7: I can't imagine. I know how I feel losing my son.

1136
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 7: I can't imagine how my son mom feel. She carried

1137
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 7: him for nine months. Man.

1138
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 5: That's that's that's hurtful, It's insulting, it's embarrassing. And make

1139
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 5: all the bruhs that's out here really trying to make

1140
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 5: a difference, good.

1141
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 7: Brus or whatever.

1142
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 5: No matter how they came in, some of them came

1143
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 5: in and said, hey, you know what, I'm gonna make

1144
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:22,479
Speaker 5: a change.

1145
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna do what was done to me.

1146
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 5: There are a lot of bruhs out here that's trying

1147
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 5: to break the generational curse of hazing.

1148
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 7: Hazing must stop. I don't care if you remember alpha

1149
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 7: phi alpha.

1150
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 5: I don't care if it's capa alpha si, phi beta

1151
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 5: sigma ioda phi theta or making sigh five de sigma

1152
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 5: theta alpha, kap alpha zeta, phi beta delta, sigmund theta

1153
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 5: ti beta sigma kk signed five.

1154
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 7: U alpha delta omicron. I don't care. It's wrong. Stop

1155
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 7: putting your hands on people.

1156
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 5: People coming to these organizations looking for something that they

1157
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 5: never had, And the only thing you could think to

1158
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 5: do is is my nephew.

1159
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 7: I got a nephew, one of the kids that I raised,

1160
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 7: put through school. He's a Q.

1161
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 5: We don't talk about it. He come over here alls

1162
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 5: and he's one of my favorite nephews. We're really close.

1163
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 5: I crossed him, but it's like an unridden rule. We

1164
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 5: don't discuss it.

1165
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 7: We don't talk about it, we don't take pictures throwing

1166
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 7: the hooks up. He was beat in the chest, he

1167
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 7: had bruised ribs, he had Bruce ribs. His mom called

1168
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 7: me crying. I'm like, what's going on. She didn't even

1169
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 7: know he was online. It was underground and he had

1170
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 7: Bruce Ribs. My chapter know about it. No reflection on

1171
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 7: my chapter AMPI five.

1172
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 5: They corrected the situation, but he was coming in a

1173
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 5: chapter where that's what they did.

1174
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 7: It don't make it right. He could have died and

1175
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 7: his line brother had to go to Atlanta to our

1176
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 7: hospital because he had a burst appendix.

1177
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 5: He could have died.

1178
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 7: So am I wrong? Am I cat? Did that make?

1179
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 7: Did that make me cat?

1180
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 5: Now?

1181
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 7: And and and you could anybody can come on here

1182
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 7: and take anything that.

1183
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 5: I said out of context or whatever I said when

1184
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 5: I said, it's just absolutely is wrong for you to

1185
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 5: be putting your hands on people. You understand that's not

1186
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 5: what the organization was founding on. Hell, you ask the

1187
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 5: people questions and stuff. Why don't you gonna read your history?

1188
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 5: Because I don't see nowhere. I ain't ready nowhere. We're

1189
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 5: punching somebody in the chest. I don't have no material,

1190
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 5: and I got some material, but I don't see nowhere

1191
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 5: where it talked about beating somebody up to be a

1192
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 5: part of this organization, and.

1193
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 7: Somebody got to say it. Somebody got to say it, Jamila,

1194
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 7: somebody got to speak out. I'm sure your husband's not happy.

1195
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, hopefully what this will do is not paint

1196
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: a broader negative perception on not just Omega's but also

1197
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: on whoever is involved in a black sorority and fraternity,

1198
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: because I, even though I'm not a member of one,

1199
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: I do believe that their mission and their purpose is

1200
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: still being carried out in more positive ways than negative ways.

1201
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 5: The part that make me mad is so many good

1202
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 5: things that the ques are doing in the community.

1203
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 7: The only thing you have to do is read the Oracle.

1204
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 5: If you get the Oracle and see all of the

1205
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 5: wonderful positive things that members of Omega Sci Fi is

1206
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 5: out here doing day after day after day after day,

1207
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 5: week after week, it makes us look bad.

1208
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 7: I'm a part of that. I'm a part of the

1209
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 7: community service.

1210
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 5: I might not get to go to everything, but I

1211
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 5: promise you I will send that cash out to my

1212
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 5: chapter brother. They out here trying to do something and

1213
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,479
Speaker 5: create shows so our chapters and this stuff can make money.

1214
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 7: But it's just some game members that have snuck in

1215
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 7: talking about somebody else snuck in and then't get beat up.

1216
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 5: You got beat up, and now you're beating everybody else

1217
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 5: up and making the front lose money because all of

1218
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 5: these tug going to they just spending millions of dollars.

1219
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 7: Paying out people that have sued these organizations.

1220
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: Why, yeah, that's definitely a financial drain. And as you mentioned, uh,

1221
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: the insurance that will also create another issue.

1222
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, just call me president.

1223
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,479
Speaker 4: See see you you talked them up and he talked

1224
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 4: him up.

1225
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 7: Felt me talking about it, Lewis.

1226
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: Before we close out this episode, there's two things I

1227
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: want to ask you. One, I saw you know there

1228
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: was a somewhat recent announcement that they are doing another

1229
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: Friday called I think last Friday.

1230
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 4: Uh, will we see you?

1231
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 5: And I don't think they started auditioning yet or whatever.

1232
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 5: I know Ice Keep and I are with the same agency,

1233
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 5: so I'm sure I might.

1234
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 7: Uh get you.

1235
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 4: Are you open to it though?

1236
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 5: What? Yeah? Okay, come on, Hey they should do an

1237
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 5: ether version or whatever Bunny Rabbit this time.

1238
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 4: Robin folks at the Bunny Rabbit hostile.

1239
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would love to do that, all right, all right.

1240
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: Now here's my last question. I usually the last question

1241
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: I call a messy question.

1242
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 4: Rickie. This is our opportunity to make the shade room.

1243
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 4: It's gonna be messy. So here's the messie question.

1244
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: Now, you are a very knowledgeable, a deep rooted Alabama

1245
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: football fan. I am so, who is the greatest Alabama

1246
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: wide receiver of all time? You got Amari Cooper, you

1247
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: got Davonte Smith, you got Calvin Ridley, you got Jerry Judy,

1248
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: you got Julio Jones.

1249
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 4: Who is the greatest Alabama wide receiver ever?

1250
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 7: You know? You know what is? That's a hard question.

1251
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 7: You got to go with Smithy. You got to go

1252
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 7: with Smithy.

1253
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 4: Okay, DeVonta Smith all right, and let me let me.

1254
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 7: Say this like like see you you you you you.

1255
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 7: You put that question out there wrong. It's got to

1256
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 7: be some contexts.

1257
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 4: Okay, give me the context give.

1258
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 7: Me Jones is one of those gonna go up in

1259
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 7: the air and get the ball, right.

1260
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 5: Cavin Ridley runs like a deer like he runs nasty routes,

1261
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 5: those routes, So clod, I got a workout video. I

1262
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 5: got a video with me throwing Cavin Ridley a pass

1263
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 5: or whatever. You have to go to my my Instagram.

1264
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 7: You have to find it. Cavin Ridley.

1265
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 5: You got Cooper that that that will break, He will

1266
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 5: break your ankles trying a couple of him running the rocks.

1267
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 7: Then you had, oh God, Jerry Judy, Jesus, whoa man?

1268
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 5: That's one of my Jerry Judy one of my all

1269
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 5: time favorite receivers, uh Cavin really Jerry Judy, Julio Jones,

1270
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 5: Minty and who else.

1271
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: Uh you know, dj Hall, Ridley, Judy, Julio Jones. I

1272
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 1: mean like the list, Jaylen watt On, I mean the

1273
01:07:59,240 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: list kind of.

1274
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 5: Oh god, yeah, I love Jaylon water Dolphins. But you

1275
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 5: you got, you got, you got to go with Smitty.

1276
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 5: You got to go with Smitty. Not only he's a

1277
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 5: Heisman Trophy when he's a Super Bowl champion. He made

1278
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 5: that big catch against Georgia. He made a catch against Mississippi.

1279
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 7: State to win the game.

1280
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 5: It was a cross route, a slant that he ran

1281
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 5: with Jalen with Jayalen Hurst through and the ball and

1282
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 5: because they was about to lose Mississippi State that night

1283
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 5: in Starkville, Mississippi.

1284
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 7: And then that clutch catch one time his freshman year.

1285
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 7: He was a freshman when he caught that ball.

1286
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,759
Speaker 5: But earlier in the year, I was watching the players

1287
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 5: go in and he came up and he was like,

1288
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 5: it's a players media and he gave me his gloves.

1289
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 5: I got, oh yeah, But I didn't know that he

1290
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 5: was gonna end up winning the Heisman Trophy and be

1291
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 5: a start. But that was the only time I met

1292
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 5: him and I haven't seen him since. And I'm such

1293
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 5: a big fan. I would love to have him on

1294
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 5: the Morning Show man, but Smitty Man, when I tell you,

1295
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 5: I absolutely and that's that's that's a big guy. That's

1296
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 5: that's that's a big the smallest either smallest and man

1297
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 5: he fast as him.

1298
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 4: Well, Ricky, I just want to thank you so much

1299
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 4: for joining me.

1300
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people who've been watching your comedy

1301
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: over the years, we're all looking forward to your new

1302
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: comedy special again.

1303
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 4: It's called Foolish.

1304
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: It's out on Hulu May thirtieth, and considering all the

1305
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 1: good reviews and text message you've got your phone, I

1306
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: know that this is gonna be something special.

1307
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 4: So good luck with that.

1308
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna support and you know, make it number one

1309
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Speaker 1: streaming on Hulu and everything.

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Speaker 4: So thank you for everything and for spending this time

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Speaker 4: with me, and thank you.

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Speaker 7: For having me and congratulations. And I saw you on below, Dick.

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Speaker 7: I loved that.

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Speaker 4: Oh you did, Okay, yeah, yeah, we we had we

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Speaker 4: had a blast.

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Speaker 1: You know, they have asked we had a time, They've

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Speaker 1: asked us to come back several times.

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Speaker 4: One of these times we go, we're gonna be able

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Speaker 4: to h to make it fit. So maybe maybe you'll

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Speaker 4: see us do it again.

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Speaker 5: Now that's my one of my favorite storkuse. I am

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Speaker 5: a boat captain, so I, oh yeah, Ricky, you need

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Speaker 5: to go on there. I would definitely love to go

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Speaker 5: on below day.

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Speaker 7: So now there I'll go.

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Speaker 1: Let me know, all right, listen, we'll connect. Don't worry

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Speaker 1: about it, all right, take care, Rickie. One more segment

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Speaker 1: to go, coming up next, the Final Spin. All right,

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Speaker 1: time for the Final Spin. I tell you the topic,

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Speaker 1: the spin, and then the truth the topic. By the

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Speaker 1: time this podcast airs, the iconic NBA studio show Inside

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Speaker 1: the NBA will have air its final broadcast on tn T,

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Speaker 1: thus ending the networks thirty five year relationship with the NBA. Now,

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Speaker 1: the spin is that nothing will change when this show

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Speaker 1: is moved to ESPN next season, and I don't believe

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Speaker 1: that that's the truth. Yes, the chemistry and productions should

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Speaker 1: still remain the same, since TNT will maintain creative control

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Speaker 1: of the show despite it being on ESPN.

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Speaker 4: But here's what I'm afraid of is that while the

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Speaker 4: show will look the same, It won't feel the same now.

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Speaker 1: I do believe ESPN can get out of the way,

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Speaker 1: so to speak, because it seems they've done that with

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Speaker 1: the Pat McAfee Show.

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Speaker 4: But inevitably Charles is going to clown the NBA product.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna clown ESPN itself and make fun of them

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Speaker 1: as he often does on TNT, and he's gonna clown

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Speaker 1: whoever thinks they're in charge. Can ESPN's ego handle all

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Speaker 1: of that? A lot of people look forward to watching Ejchuck,

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Speaker 1: Kenny and Shack after games. Will ESPN continue with that tradition,

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Speaker 1: even though they're accustomed to going right to Sports Center

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Speaker 1: after games? Now there's going to be a lot of

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Speaker 1: pressure on ESPN to make sure inside the NBA doesn't

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Speaker 1: miss a beat. I'm just wondering if they can actually

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