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Speaker 3: I'm I'm fine with the bag.

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Speaker 2: Oh that means you really don't like to rap gifts,

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Speaker 2: then too.

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Speaker 4: I'm fine. Even kids. Just take a bag. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: There's just so many bags, so many bags around. I

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Speaker 2: I hated opening a gift out of a bag that

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Speaker 2: was a kid. That's a good point.

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Speaker 4: That's a very good point.

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Speaker 2: You gotta wrap it, you want.

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Speaker 3: All right, But then the tape and all that.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, it's very waste.

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Speaker 4: Like to deal.

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Speaker 2: You can reuse bags, that is nice, Yeah, there's some.

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Speaker 4: And then I'm trying.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to recycle the paper ski So I'm taking

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Speaker 3: the tape off the paper like dig in for the

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Speaker 3: tape off every corner, you know. And I don't know

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Speaker 3: if people give gifts to you know, whoever, whoever wrapped it,

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Speaker 3: I don't know where you're taping.

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Speaker 5: True true true about awkwardly shaped items like a pickleball paddle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh would you buy JDA pickleball paddle? Did you

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Speaker 2: just give that away at this point? Yeah? He does know.

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Speaker 2: You're right. It's like, I hate wrapping gifts. I'm bad

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Speaker 3: That's why I save those sweater boxes. I call him

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Speaker 3: sweater boxes, but those just random boxes you get their

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Speaker 2: Rackets, smart a pickleball recket that would fit perfectly in

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Speaker 2: one of those like that a sweater would come in

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Speaker 2: from sears. Yeah, exactly. All right, we got lots to

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Speaker 2: get to, so let's stop talking about wrapping gifts. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna recap a lot of the games last night and

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Speaker 2: then later on in the show all day yesterday task

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Speaker 2: Like a true sicko, I was playing with the NBA

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Speaker 2: most likely players to be traded, and I'll throw some

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Speaker 2: hypothetical trades at you, and you and the stream team

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Speaker 2: and everybody watching and listening later can ship all over

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Speaker 2: the trades because that's all everybody does with these. Well,

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Speaker 2: maybe that that's stupid.

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Speaker 4: Listen. I I took a quick sneak peek. I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't do a deep dive into every single one,

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Speaker 3: But I don't think people will poop on every single one.

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Speaker 4: There are some good guns in there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I put the work in. I don't

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Speaker 2: just like come up with these like, oh, let's just

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Speaker 2: trade Lebron James for ten guys, like, you know, try

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Speaker 2: and make them realistic. They're all executable, Yes, they all

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Speaker 2: are you know, technically can be done. But we'll debate

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Speaker 2: them all as we go through them. Later on.

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Speaker 3: Kobe Altman is watching, every GM is watching.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, who was it?

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Speaker 2: Didn't I call the Aaron Gordon trade? Was it that

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Speaker 2: one that I had basically the Magic Nuggets one? A

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Speaker 2: couple of years ago, I think that was my like one.

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Speaker 2: Like we had talked about it on the show. We

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Speaker 2: basically happened like this to some extent that sounds right. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: we had some weggies. We had three last night. Let's

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Speaker 2: go through them amazing one by one. First one, it

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Speaker 2: was uh Siakam here in Philadelphia sticking the three point

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Speaker 2: weggie boom, simple as that tasks what a monster game

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Speaker 2: from him? Huge line and then you can include a weggie.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Pascal Siakam was back, MVP Sacam was back. But as

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Speaker 3: you said in our chat, when the weggie happened, I asked,

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Speaker 4: We checked the tape.

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Speaker 3: Matt Devlin, our man, Matt Devlin on the Raptors broadcast

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Speaker 3: didn't even say the word.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how down bats are, that's how bad it.

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Speaker 3: Is, exactly, Yeah, it's it's it was just a bysmal.

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Speaker 2: And then that was number twenty okay, then we had

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Speaker 2: number twenty one not long over long after, excuse me.

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Speaker 2: And this one was maybe a little controversy because of

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Speaker 2: the continuation, but we decided in our slack channel last

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Speaker 2: night we have to count it because Jim Peterson on

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Speaker 2: the Wolves broadcast went for like ninety seconds in explaining

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Speaker 2: taken away.

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Speaker 4: It's ninth rebounds of the night. He has eight assists

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Speaker 4: as well. Down the lane and we've got oh.

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Speaker 6: Weggie, so our first wedgie of the season.

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Speaker 2: You don't really see weggies on the layouts.

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Speaker 4: Jimp.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the weggie and the leggie is the one where

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Speaker 6: it hangs in the back of the rim and it

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Speaker 6: you've got the pigeon, which is when the ball gets

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Speaker 6: that's called a leggie. Lucky knew that one, Michael, I

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Speaker 6: don't ope it, okay, So in case that happens, you've

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Speaker 6: got to call the legend, right, you got to call

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Speaker 6: them on which one is the pure the pincheon is

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Speaker 6: what it sits on the back of this of the rim,

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Speaker 6: like the limited it dies on the back of the ball.

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Speaker 4: That okay, that's that's a rare case. Is kimble walkers

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Speaker 4: going to the free I couldn't have that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So.

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Speaker 2: We just saw the guys at the start.

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Speaker 6: The guys at the started and started all that.

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Speaker 2: They're Canadian friends.

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Speaker 6: Oh, shout out, yes, ye had the starter is great

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Speaker 6: and we got a pigeon legie leggie.

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Speaker 4: Jimbo at the line. That's gonna word from Arby's.

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Speaker 2: It was like ninety seconds again, shout out to Jim

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Speaker 2: Peterson and uh and Michael Grady there on the Wolves broadcast. Now,

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Speaker 2: I mean he had the right parts tasks, Jim Pete did,

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Speaker 2: but he was I think he was confusing Grady a

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Speaker 2: time to time just so everybody knows. You know, weggie

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Speaker 2: of course ball stuck between the rim and the backboard.

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Speaker 2: The leggie is when it's sitting on the back of

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Speaker 2: the rim right above the cylinder, but on the back

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Speaker 2: of the rim. That's quite rare. And the pigeon we

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Speaker 2: just call the one that gets stuck up by the

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Speaker 2: shot clock with Jim Pete said at one point and

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Speaker 2: then he started confusing with the legend. Anyway, we had

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Speaker 2: to count the Weggie right because he just like, look

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Jim Peterson an absolute legend going through it for

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Speaker 3: ninety seconds there.

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Speaker 4: He had it right the first time.

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Speaker 3: But then maybe we just need to simplify it.

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Speaker 4: Maybe Weggie is too close to Leggie.

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Speaker 3: No, then listen, I think it's the it's the perfect name,

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Speaker 3: but it happens so rarely. And her man Michael Grady,

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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna he's gonna take this with him

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Speaker 3: on the call and he's going to get it right

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Speaker 3: in the future. We'll circle back to this and tweeted

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Speaker 3: the night because her man Jim Peterson was.

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Speaker 4: Also tweeting about it.

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Speaker 3: Great job by Jim Pete to get it on the broadcast,

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Speaker 3: explain it and that's why. Yeah, because Jim Peterson went

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Speaker 3: into it, we had to call that continuation a weggie.

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Speaker 3: Even though even though the diehards were asking at the

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Speaker 3: time of the weggie, a potential weggie even they weren't

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Speaker 3: buying it. But it was a continuation.

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Speaker 2: It was quite the continuation. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: But continuation is part of the game. We'll get to

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Speaker 3: a weird PJ. Tucker call that was overturned in Philly, Like,

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Speaker 3: you know, continuation, it's all part of the play. I

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Speaker 3: used to be against it, but I'm okay with it

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Speaker 3: and shout out Jim Peterson for the Oh my.

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Speaker 2: God, that's so good, the best part, and you may

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Speaker 2: have caught it. Right at the end of the clip.

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Speaker 2: They then throw to an Arby's commercial like an ad break,

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Speaker 2: so it's like, oh my god, we went from leggies

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Speaker 2: to roast beef. We had to cut it off at

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Speaker 2: some point there, but amazing stuff. I would like before

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Speaker 2: the start of the season tasks. I would like to

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Speaker 2: get on a zoom call with all of the NBA broadcasters,

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Speaker 2: all of the teams and just go through it all

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Speaker 3: we just forget about Aldridge and how great he was.

431
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Speaker 4: He just kind of.

432
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 3: He's the Paul Millsap. He's the guy that just like

433
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 3: was so steady and so good, but unspectacular doing it

434
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 3: and not out of playoff success got to one conference

435
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 3: finals with the Spurs rather than with the Blazers, but

436
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 3: very very similar resume to Damian.

437
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 2: You want a quick little trivia question, Okay, yeah, I

438
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 2: saw this by way of talking NBA great Twitter account.

439
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 2: By the way, there are ten active players who are

440
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: franchise leaders for all time points score right with their franchise. Now,

441
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 2: three of them still play for their team Lillard one,

442
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 2: can you name the other?

443
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 4: Two? Wow? Still play not not.

444
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 2: Kurry with the Warriors. Yep, it's pretty easy. This happened

445
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 2: not too long ago. When I think he took it

446
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 2: over this year last year, I came not trade, no, no, no, no,

447
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 2: no no. I mean this guy's an MVP level guy.

448
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 2: I mean I guess, okay, well, I mean you you

449
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 2: know well, I mean I mean he's yeah, there you go, yeah,

450
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 2: because that happened recently right where he overtook I guess

451
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: yeah yeah. And then there's seven other guys in the

452
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 2: league that are active players that lead, not the team

453
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 2: they're on, like lead another franchise, like Lebron James with

454
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 2: the Cavaliers. Right, that's an obvious one. You want to

455
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 2: take a stab at six Tomato Rose with the Raptors. Okay,

456
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: five more, you can do this.

457
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 4: Hmmm, Bradley, No, No, some of them are Chris Chris Paul.

458
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 2: Because he didn't i mean, play in one spot really

459
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 2: long enough nor scored enough.

460
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought he could. Charlotte.

461
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 2: Oh, you say, Charlotte, there is somebody.

462
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 4: Okay, we'll hold on West Westbrook Thunder.

463
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 2: Uh, Charlotte, he just made a triumphant return.

464
00:23:54,600 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 3: And and then you've got Jimmy James had not Harden.

465
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 2: You've got three more. Though you love this one guy.

466
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: You're always talking about how important he is to his

467
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 2: current franchise, and he wracked up a lot of points,

468
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 2: a sneaky amount of points with his old team. Shout

469
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: out to John Hollingers, Mike, Yeah, that's a tough one.

470
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 4: One is a tough one.

471
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: And then you've got you've got two big guys known

472
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Speaker 2: for defense. I mean, I mean they're elite defensive players,

473
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 2: one unfortunately injured right now, and then one you know,

474
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 2: might win his might win an award, might make an

475
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 2: All Star team for the first time in a decade.

476
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Speaker 2: Who's that?

477
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Speaker 4: Oh no, big oh, sorry, big guy?

478
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 2: But Brookes with the nets still there, franchise leader and

479
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: then the final one he's injured right now?

480
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 4: Oh Anthony Davis.

481
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: With the huh you go? There you go? How fun?

482
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: Was that?

483
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Speaker 4: All right?

484
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: Okay?

485
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 4: Sorry? Sorry, wasn't it got there?

486
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Speaker 2: You got there? Okay, let's move to this game.

487
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Speaker 4: Shout out to the stream team for help.

488
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Speaker 2: I wasn't watching.

489
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Speaker 4: No, I mean I got them all with of course.

490
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Speaker 2: Okay, shout up. Anthony Edwards leads the Wolves past the

491
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: flustered Mavericks one sixteen one oh six. You want to

492
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: start with the good on the Wolf side of things

493
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 2: or the bad on the MAVs side of things?

494
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know.

495
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: Listen, a lot of the bad was caused by the

496
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 3: good of the Wolves. When you said a guy who

497
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 3: could win an award, a big defensive player started thinking

498
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert with the Utah Jazz, he couldn't be them

499
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 3: most points, couldn't be the points leader for the Utah Jazz.

500
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 3: Well for the Wolves. No go beart, no towns, no McLoughlin, No, Prince,

501
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 3: they're they're pretty banged up. But nas Reed, who I

502
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 3: guess a lot of people outside Minnesota might not know,

503
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: but because he's been there for his you know his

504
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 3: I think his four year career. Usually back up, but

505
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 3: he's been starting since Rudy Gobert.

506
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 4: Has gone out.

507
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 3: He was hurting the last game and his trapp area.

508
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 3: You don't hear that often, Yeah, the trap neck area.

509
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: And apparently as soon as Anthony Edwards heard that nos

510
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 3: Reed was playing, uh, he got pumped and he had

511
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 3: himself a great game.

512
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Speaker 4: This is the quote from Anthony Edwards. I like this quote.

513
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: He said the first thing I asked him when I

514
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 3: walked into the locker room tonight. I said, Hey, you

515
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 3: going tonight. He's like, yeah, for sure. So him saying

516
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: that with his chest out make me feel like I'm

517
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 3: finna go out here and kill for nas first.

518
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 4: I like Finna in a quote and him, there's no doubt.

519
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 3: We've been talking about the chemistry between Anthony Edwards and

520
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: the big men on this team, and he obviously has

521
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 3: some chemistry with Nosried. Nos Reed was a monster in

522
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 3: this game. He was so good and they changed their

523
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 3: defense to get to why they stopped Luka Dancic. Rudy

524
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 3: Gobert is a drop guy, does it extremely well, but

525
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 3: Nosried plays up. When they go to a pick and

526
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: roll with Luka Dontrich, he gets out there, they build

527
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 3: that little wall. They double out there. And I know

528
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 3: Luca was ejected in this game, but they lost way

529
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 3: before then. He was only five of seventeen and a

530
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: big part of that was Nosried, Jada McDaniels, who was

531
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: his primary defender, getting out there and defending. And then

532
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: on the other side, you know, a little excuse no

533
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: Dwight Powell in this game for the Maps. I know

534
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 3: he's not a big part of their team, but with

535
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 3: the injury to Maxi Kliba, Dwight Powell, it just kills

536
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 3: their depth. And I will say, just because you know

537
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: they don't have a lot of depth, I think they

538
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: lost in that second quarter because they were so bad defensively,

539
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: so bad. When a team scores twenty points in the

540
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 3: paint in one quarter one quarter, the Wolves scored twenty

541
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Speaker 3: points of the paint in one quarter. That's like every

542
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 3: stink and minute you get a bucket, Like one out

543
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 3: of every two possessions a bucket in the paint, and

544
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: so they would score him thirty six to fourteen. And

545
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 3: I don't think this happens with Dwyight Powell in there.

546
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 3: But maybe I'm given a little too much credit to

547
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 3: Dwight Palette. This MAVs team just fell apart Christian Wood

548
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: in the starting line. I'm not sure how well that's

549
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: gonna work, and he'll go back to the bench when

550
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 3: Dwight Palell gets back in there. But they lost that

551
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 3: second quarter well before the Luca ejection shot, So I

552
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: don't think that Luca ejection had anything to do with it.

553
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 4: I'm not sure what you yeah.

554
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: I think Luca was. I think Luca is frustrated with

555
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: his team in the recent play and there are missing

556
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: a lot of guys, no doubt, but both sides were.

557
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: But he was also frustrated with Jada McDaniels all over

558
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: his ass, because dare I say Jada McDaniels is the

559
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: Luca stopper. I saw at Wolves Radio tweeting out the

560
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: stats as the primary defender last night, Luca only had

561
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: four points, shot one to nine and had three turnovers

562
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: and in four matchups with McDaniels primary defender on Luca.

563
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: He only has eleven points, three of eighteen shooting, and

564
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: five turnovers, so he does a really really good job

565
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: of at least frustrating U Luka John Chicch And yeah,

566
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: I thought the second tech was pretty damn quick. I

567
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on right now in the NBA.

568
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: It's like, you get the one and it's like you

569
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: better shut the hell up right away because some of

570
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: these refs are in their feelings and they're gonna they're

571
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: gonna give you a second one real quick. I think

572
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: it's a ref that's done it before, if I saw

573
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: that correctly, to Luca and maybe even Kid himself, because

574
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: then Kid went nuts and he got tossed to and

575
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: that was I think a little more warranted sort of

576
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: coming out.

577
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: Of the Rodney Mott. I'm not sure it's history, but definitely.

578
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: Okay, it was my I think Mott's done it before,

579
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: so you know, I don't know if he's he hates

580
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: Luca or whoever it is. He was frustrated with him too,

581
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: so get the hell out of here. But yeah, this

582
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: Christian Wood in the starting lineup for the first time,

583
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: MAVs fans had been like sort of some MAVs fans

584
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: had been like wanting that to see that, Hey play

585
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: your best players. What a novel idea. But this is

586
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: the problem with Wood, Like he can give you buckets,

587
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 2: he can score. He's been great. He's really surprised me

588
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: offensively how well he's played, especially coming off that bench

589
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: and sort of adapt him to that role. But he

590
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: gives a lot back. I mean, naz Reid had his

591
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: way with him. I mean he had twenty seven and

592
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 2: thirteen in this game in a game we didn't even

593
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: think he was gonna play. And you said they just

594
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: dominated them inside the paint fifty eight to eighteen. It

595
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: was overall that looks like a typo. Fifty eight to

596
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: eighteen points in the paint. And that's not like give

597
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: it to a guy who's going to work with his

598
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: back to the basket. That's just like you know, driving

599
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: after driving after driving. So where was the defense in

600
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: the backbone from the MAVs. It was not existent in

601
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: this game.

602
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 4: But yeah, Ray Reid inspiring for his team for sure.

603
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: He played forty minutes with that injury, and ten of

604
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 3: those minutes in that second quarter were with Christian Wood

605
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: on the floor where they scored twenty points in the paint.

606
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: That's just that's so many. Yeah, that it is a

607
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 3: ridiculous amount. So there's a good chemistry there with Anthony

608
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: Edwards also being more of a primary ball handler. That's

609
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: happening more and more as D'Angelo Russell is giving it

610
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 3: up to him and Anthony Edwards is coming.

611
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 4: Into his own.

612
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: Is what we expected here in year three, He said

613
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: after the game. I feel like they're trusting in me,

614
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: believing in me. If it goes two possessions where I

615
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: haven't touched the ball nas Jaden, they all say, go

616
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: get the ball, brother, get us into something. Even d Lo,

617
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 3: They're just trusting me. It's fun. And that always comes

618
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: back to the discussion whose team is it when Karl

619
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: Anthony Towns comes back and well, the chemistry still be there.

620
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: But you know, at the same time, they did have

621
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: chemistry last year.

622
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 4: So it is.

623
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: Early enough in the season and you see it across

624
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 3: the league. You see it with the Knicks who won

625
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: seven in a row. You see it with the Sixers

626
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: on their streak. You see what the Nets and their streak.

627
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 3: It's not over, it's not done. This Wolf team isn't

628
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: going to be a sub five hundred team. Just a

629
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: good sign, let's be positive, Fitz here, a good sign

630
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: that Anthony Edwards is looking like a potential All Star Greed.

631
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: He's looking like he's taking or inching towards that leap

632
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: that we thought he would take in year three. That's

633
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: the best way to put it. And I also think

634
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: he's a perfect example that some guys in this league

635
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: they just need to play with like that joy, like

636
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: that spark, and whether that's him just like having the

637
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: ball more, having more room to operate, being asked to

638
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: do more as a playmaker and attack more because the

639
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: bigs aren't there. I don't know what the reason is,

640
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: but he is a perfect example of like some guys

641
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: they have to just play with this this I don't

642
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: know this like freeness to them that unlocks them, or

643
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: like again, like just this joy is the best way

644
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: to put it. Like I think of Scotty Barnes last

645
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: year and then the comparison to this year, and it's

646
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: like been drained and there are a bunch of reasons why.

647
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: But man, in a game where it didn't even have

648
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: a shot falling but he was attacking, did a lot

649
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: of his work at the line nine as Sis again,

650
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: couple steals and they pull out the victory. So it's

651
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: fun to see. You're right, it's the league's in a

652
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: better spot when Anthony Edwards is like, you know, throwing

653
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: down Will Mill dunks on the fast break and getting

654
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: guys into it and like getting the crowd going and

655
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So good win here from Minnesota, as yeah,

656
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: they go up and the Mavericks sort of go down

657
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: right now, hit a bit of a rut. Let me

658
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 2: throw three games at your tasks, beasts from the East.

659
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: We had Giannis scoring forty two, okay, as the Bucks

660
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: beat the Pelicans one twenty eight, one to nineteen. Donovan

661
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: Mitchell scored twenty three as his Calves hammered the Jazz

662
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,479
Speaker 2: as old team they improved to fifteen and two at

663
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: home Cleveland did and then we had Tobias Harris and

664
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: Joel Embiid carrying the seventy six ers past the Raptors

665
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: one four, one on one in overtime. So those those

666
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: three teams, you know, your Bucks, your Calves, your sixers

667
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 2: who are getting up there in the standings, all good wins,

668
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: any of them you want to talk.

669
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 3: About, Oh well, we got to talk about the Raps. Okay, Okay, first, yeah,

670
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 3: I said coupos forty two should be said because a

671
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: guy shouldn't drop forty two points and it should go.

672
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 4: It can't go unset. It is becoming it is.

673
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: I mean, forty is becoming like feels like twenty five

674
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: at this point. It's like, okay, good game.

675
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: But it's a good game, especially from this dude who

676
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 3: doesn't shoot many threes to get the forty. It does

677
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 3: show that the Pelicans yesterday, I think it was probably

678
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: garbled up by my WiFi, but I definitely talked about

679
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 3: I wanted to talk about how the Pelicans are struggling

680
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: a little bit giving the ball up on turnovers and

681
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 3: in transition and inside just defensive rebounding. So that is

682
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: something that they should should address at some point. And

683
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: I know they're like going to Larry Nance, but there's

684
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: some struggles, a bit of a struggle bus holding down

685
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: the glass on the defensive end. YEA, he took advantage

686
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 3: of that. Joe Engles is back. Good for him Bucks

687
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: win the Raptors game.

688
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 4: That was frustrating.

689
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 3: I will say I will call it a moral victory

690
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 3: because coming off back to back with the Warriors. They

691
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: looked way better defensively. They wanted to fight, they wanted

692
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: to battle. And even though he's starting Scottie Barnes defensively

693
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 3: against Joel Embiid giving up whatever it is, sixty seventy

694
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 3: pounds and a lot of height, They're able to overcome

695
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: that time and time again because they play scrappy. They

696
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: didn't do that against the Golden State Warriors. Scottie Barnes

697
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 3: actually went out of this game really early with two

698
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 3: quick fouls. But Cam Birch and his chesticles did a

699
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 3: real good job I think against Joel Embiid, just fighting

700
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 3: and being strung. So this game went to overtime. And

701
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 3: it's no wonder that the Raps are one in six

702
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: in games decided by three points or less. They just

703
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 3: can't They just can't execute down the stretch. And Pascal

704
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: had an incredible game. And the reason why this is

705
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 3: frustrating is because Pascal looked so good. You were saying

706
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 3: yesterday how he was, you know a little bit more

707
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 3: back to the basket, less of the face up. Let's

708
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: find the flow where he found day with his thirty eight.

709
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: He went back to that last night, Mike.

710
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh. And he just didn't have any help.

711
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 3: So it is it is wild. You get a guy

712
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 3: with thirty eight uh, and your next score is thirteen,

713
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: has thirteen points and the Sixers got enough. Even though

714
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 3: har didn't have a great didn't have a great game.

715
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 3: The Rap's doing a good job against him. You said,

716
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 3: Tobias Harris, the Raptor Killer, how confident he got.

717
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: Tobias Harris is in the zone right now. He in

718
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: the month of December is averaging twenty points per game

719
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 2: with shooting splits of fifty six, fifty nine, and one hundred. Okay,

720
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 2: not a lot of free throws, but he hasn't missed one.

721
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: He's knocking him fifty nine percent of his threes. In December,

722
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: he hit five verses the Grizzly hit Grizzlies. He had

723
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: seven verses the Rockets. He had another five last night

724
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 2: was the Raptors, a couple of them in overtime. The

725
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: one guy, I guess taken away he is. He is

726
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: shooting the ball with some confidence right now. I mean

727
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: three feels like money every time he lets it go.

728
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: But yeah, you said it there From the Raptor's side

729
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: of things, they can't They can't have on the same

730
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: night their top two or three guys all play good

731
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: at the same time. It's either Van Vliet going for

732
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: thirty nine and Siakam struggling, or when Siakam at the

733
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: start of the year was money, no one else was

734
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: really supporting them all that much. Or last night where

735
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: he has thirty eight and filled the rest of the

736
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: box score doing a line that only Vince carter I

737
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: guess is done in Raptor's history in terms of his

738
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: box score. And then Van Vliet, how many looks did

739
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: he have? Wide open looks like good looks like from

740
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,479
Speaker 2: ball movement he's stepping into it, and he just kept

741
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: bricking them and bricking them and bricking them. I mean,

742
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: there's not much else you can do outside of trying

743
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: to get more shooting or just hoping a guy that's

744
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: an All Star just starts like knocking him down. I

745
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 2: think he has to have a kid again or something right,

746
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: Like he has to pro create to start hitting shots,

747
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: because he had so many. He had like five in

748
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: the fourth and overtime they were like, they're wide open three.

749
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 2: That should be a lay up for an NBA guy

750
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: like him.

751
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, the wide open ones you just got hit at

752
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: least one of them. And he's just not being steady

753
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 3: Freddy that he's he's he's up and down, and that's

754
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 3: the problem. And I guess we anointed Scottie Barnes a

755
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: little too quickly in the off season because I don't

756
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 3: want to be down on the guy. But I guess

757
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: we just put him on this ridiculous pedestal.

758
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 4: And I did it.

759
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 3: It was definitely guilty of it. I just didn't see

760
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: any sort of drop off coming. I saw him in

761
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: those those summer league runs, dominating, which you know is

762
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: a summer league run, but he was throwing his body

763
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: around like he was Kawhi. He was physical. And then

764
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 3: something has happened here in year two. Whether it's you know,

765
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 3: hearing a lot of that praise, thinking that he was

766
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: going to have a more prominent role on this team

767
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: instead of just being one of the one of everybody else,

768
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 3: or maybe it's just a you know, a second year slump.

769
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 3: But I'm not pulling the plug on this team and

770
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: saying we got to blow it up.

771
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 4: I just don't.

772
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: First, I don't see the trade value being high enough,

773
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: you know, for a lot of these guys and second

774
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 3: I look across the floor, it looked dire for the Sixers.

775
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 4: It looked dire for a lot.

776
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 3: Of these teams, as I mentioned the Nets, the Knicks,

777
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 3: even though I just don't get it, I just don't

778
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 3: get at the end of the game, there the the

779
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: Sixers are scrapping, fighting, Joel Embiid getting down, getting dirty,

780
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: stealing it from Siakam and Scottie Barnes after that wild

781
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: overturned call where they ended up overturning a call that

782
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 3: was challenging, that was sort of an extension of the play.

783
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 3: It wasn't the call that they were challenging, but PJ.

784
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: Tucker on a moving screen rather than the three point

785
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: shot anyway, So things like it seems like raptors have

786
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 3: the momentum. And you see Scotty Barnes, he's he's practicing

787
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 3: his form, you know, in a break in place, he's

788
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 3: thrown up the shot. He's thrown up the you know,

789
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 3: like he's Lee Ellis or like he Hadi statakoopo at

790
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 3: the line. He's practicing the form. And when Pascal gets

791
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 3: into the lane, it sucks in the defense like the

792
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: like the like he was doing all night and he

793
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: throws it out to Scotty. Scotty doesn't shoot, and he

794
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 3: puts it down on the floor. And in this case

795
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: in overtime, it's a minute left and he ends up

796
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 3: chucking up a shot from the mid range that ends

797
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: up being an air ball and a shot clock violation.

798
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: The confidence just wasn't there, and and obviously it could

799
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 3: have been that he went to the bench and the

800
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: foul trouble got him out of sorts. But it's been

801
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 3: like that all year for Scotty. Something going on there.

802
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: He's just too good. Massi's got to go up and

803
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 3: talk to him or something. But he did, I mean, right.

804
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: Count he flew down to Brooklyn to talk to him

805
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: one on one.

806
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 3: Right, And I think that's it's it's I think Massides

807
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 3: got the touch.

808
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 4: He's shown it, you know in years past.

809
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: So far it's not working, but uh listen, miss, I

810
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: I think believes in these this young core. Obviously it

811
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 3: would you know, we've talked about the Kevin Durrett possibilities,

812
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 3: the Donovan Mitchell possibilities, but I don't pull the plug

813
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 3: are well now.

814
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: People also like lead into the tank, like try and

815
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: be really really bad. You're not that far off. The

816
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: issue with that is that that means you have to

817
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: shut down Pascal Siakam like you'd have to come up

818
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: with an injury because he's too good. I think he's

819
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: actually too good to like for you to be one

820
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: of the worst teams in the league to help your

821
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: ping pong ball chances. So I don't see that happening.

822
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: They need, they need to do something, no doubt they

823
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: need some For the one hundredth time on this podcast,

824
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: some shooting would be nice, or at the very least,

825
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: let's get, you know, a defensive minded center in there

826
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 2: that could help on the glass and stuff like that.

827
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 2: Though they fought last night, that was nice to see

828
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: at the very least they were in a game and

829
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 2: put up an effort. But the seventy six ers, that's

830
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 2: five straight wins for them, and that's six straight losses

831
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: for the Raptors, who fell to thirteen and eighteen. Boy

832
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: the other game's tests, we had Dejonte Murray hitting winning

833
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: free throws as the Hawks ended the magic streak, Spurs

834
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: beat the Rockets. Chris Paul had a season high twenty

835
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: eight as Sons killed the Lakers. A lot of people

836
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: not playing in that one, and LaMelo Ball and Kelly

837
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: Hubray Junior led the Hornets past the Kings to stop

838
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: their eight game losing streak. That was a surprise when

839
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: they're from the Hornets. But any of those you want

840
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 2: to touch on.

841
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 3: Well, what happened to the Kings, Well, I gotta be honest,

842
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: I was not taking that game in such a great.

843
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 4: Night in the end.

844
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 2: I mean, Lamello has been playing like it's gone way

845
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: under the radar because you know, he was injured for

846
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: a good chunk of the season and then he came

847
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 2: back and then the Hornets kept losing. But he's actually

848
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 2: like he's putting up some pretty damn good lines and

849
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: he you can tell he's like shaking off a little

850
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 2: bit of the rust, the injury rusts. There after that

851
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: bad ankle sprained on the sideline that one time, so

852
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 2: him and new brid Junior I only caught the caught

853
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: the Kings by surprise there because Sabonis had a monster

854
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 2: line against the Hornets bigs who are non existent. He

855
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: had a big beef like twenty and twenty type game.

856
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: Fox played well and then it was nobody else. But yeah,

857
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: Hornets needed to get off the snide there and they

858
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: got done.

859
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 4: All right, That's all. That's my report I was looking for.

860
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: I was shocked at the end of the Magic Hawks game,

861
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 3: and Magic looked like they're gonna win their seventh game

862
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: in a row. It was done. They had it, They

863
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 3: absolutely had it. They executed well. Trey Young put one

864
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: off the basically the side of the backboard almost and

865
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: then suddenly the Magic are up one, just a few

866
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 3: seconds left for the Hawks to try something else. It

867
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: goes to de Jonte Murray sort of on the baseline

868
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 3: and Paulo Boncaro, the steady boon Carro, the guy who's

869
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 3: gonna win Rookie of the Year, is there defending him,

870
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: and de Jantay Murray's kind of fading away to the corner,

871
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 3: and bonn Carro does make contact with him in the end,

872
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 3: but I don't think he had effected, don't.

873
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: Think at all. I thought that was a rough call.

874
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: That was some home cooking there.

875
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 3: I agree, it's it's right in front of the bench

876
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: and there was contact, and so I'm sure the benches

877
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 3: were yelling. De Jontey Murray was yelling, and maybe the

878
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 3: refs were swayed. And listen, I watch on both broadcasts

879
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 3: to get a good replay, because in twenty twenty two,

880
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: nobody could pull up a good replay of this shot

881
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 3: in the corner, which was really weird. But Jeantay Murray's

882
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: initial shot went off the top of the backboard and

883
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: he got two free throws and he banged them home

884
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 3: and Paul boncro Yet obviously devastated. They should have won

885
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 3: seven games in a row.

886
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 4: The Hawks. Hawks lucky to win that basketball game, so

887
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 4: so lucky. But it was it was a wild night,

888
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 4: a wild night in the NBA. I thought it was.

889
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,479
Speaker 2: I thought it was, Yeah, that's the thing. We don't

890
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: want to reward Murray with those free throws because it

891
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: felt like the Hawks didn't really deserve to win the

892
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: game after they gave up like a twelve our run

893
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 2: over a two minute stretch where they were like throwing

894
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: the ball away like Trey Young, treyon the Hawks. This

895
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: was like the perfect Hawks game. Actually, it's like they

896
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: play really solid for like forty five minutes. They like

897
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 2: look like a solid teap good team. You know, Trey

898
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: Young's getting his stats. Uh, They're operating okay, and then

899
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: just have like they just jeckle and hide it and

900
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: are punting the ball away and giving it to the

901
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: Magic and giving up layups to faults, like easy layups

902
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: for them to take the one two lead. But yeah,

903
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: then they get sort of bailed out there with that

904
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: call in the corner and he knocks him down, like

905
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 2: you got to step to the line and hit the

906
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: free throw. So good job by Murray. I think they

907
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: were his first two free throw attempts on the night too.

908
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is that just like sums up the

909
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: Hawks perfectly. Uh. And I will say, for whatever reason,

910
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: the Hawks end winning streaks. Tests they they snapped the

911
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 2: Bucks who had that nine game winning streak. The Kings

912
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: had a seven game winning streak, and now the Magic

913
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: snapped at six, So atl are the winning streak, you

914
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: know killers.

915
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: M Yeah, I've been sucked back into Raptors chatskeets. Sorry

916
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,479
Speaker 3: taking going back by I thought the Raps were gonna

917
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 3: snap a sixers streak if we want to segue, But

918
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 3: really I'm reading I'm reading the stream team's chats here. Uh,

919
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 3: there's a suggestion here that Scotty should run the offense

920
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 3: from disagener a cat and I get that maybe Scotty

921
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: thought that coming into the season. It's a little, uh,

922
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 3: it's a little like Westbrook. I mean he gets the

923
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: ball more in his hands in the in the second unit.

924
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 3: Right now, I think you see a happier Westbrook. I'm

925
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 3: sure Scotty wants the ball more in his hands and

926
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 3: that's that's affecting him to some degree. But I was

927
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: spirited by the defense yesterday and how much better it

928
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 3: looked and dealing with the guy in MB when the

929
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 3: Raptors have nobody to guard him. And so I'm not

930
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: I'm not buying this that their their their length doesn't

931
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: bother anyone anymore. As I saw a comment here that

932
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 3: that Zach Low mentioned that Toronto's long guys aren't shocking

933
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 3: one in the league anymore. When everyone is long, no

934
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 3: one is long like a French. I mean, they did

935
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 3: a good job defensively. That's what I liked about the Raptors.

936
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 3: Their spirit was back. It went to the overtime. But

937
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 3: their half court offense is a huge struggle bus And

938
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 3: if Scottie Barnes isn't stepping into his open shots, he

939
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 3: was over three from three and he should have been

940
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,720
Speaker 3: shooting more of those threes, then it's tough, tough, sliding

941
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 3: and as you mentioned, fred shots, So let's get off that.

942
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 4: Let's get off the raptors.

943
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell little kudos, I know, going back playing against

944
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 3: his old team against the Jazz there and some kind

945
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: words for the other side. Both teams doing well, a

946
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 3: trade that has suited both teams well with the Calves.

947
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 3: Calves are rolling fifteen and two at home. Phenomenon, a phenomenal.

948
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 2: No, they're gonna want home court advantage, no doubt the playoffs. Yeah,

949
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: that's a win win trade so far for both the

950
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: Calves and the Jazz. But they just hammered them last night. Okay,

951
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: we got to take a break because when we come back,

952
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: we got to fire up the trade machine and that

953
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: usually takes like a good time. Yeah, so don't go anywhere.

954
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: We'll be right back trades, all right, We're still here

955
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: in the yard. Love seeing the comments here in the stream. Team.

956
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: This was a good one from Humberto, who made a

957
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: good point because we were talking about the active players

958
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 2: who are their franchise leader in points scored even if

959
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: they're not on that team anymore, and he wanted to

960
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 2: know does Dwight Howard count as an active player even

961
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 2: though he's not in the league. He's the Magic's all

962
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: time leader in point score. I mean, no, he's not

963
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: an active player in the sense that he is not

964
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 2: actively in the league. He's playing in Taiwan, isn't he.

965
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was playing up against sim Bular. Oh wow,

966
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 3: seven foot five Sam Bular, Brampton native from Ontario, from Canada.

967
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 3: Seven foot five sim Bular making Dwight Howard look small,

968
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 3: look tiny. It was so strange the perspective of seven

969
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 3: to five. I'm pretty sure he's seven five because Dwight

970
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 3: Howard looked so small. But I would be playing in

971
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: the league if he could be. He could be active

972
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: very soon.

973
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, I mean, I'm sure.

974
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 3: He's gotten out and he wants to be back in

975
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 3: the league. I assume, so he could be back, but

976
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: I'm sure he's having fun.

977
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 2: Yes, if he comes back and joins the roster, then yes,

978
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: he will count as the eleventh guy as an active

979
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 2: player who leads a franchise, even if he's not on

980
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 2: that franchise in all time points court. Okay, so let's

981
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 2: get into some trade talk here. It's an NBA sicko season.

982
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: I was firing up the trade machine yesterday now this exercise,

983
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be completely honest. It started with the idea

984
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: that I was just going to come at you with

985
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: like a list of like ten or seven or whatever

986
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 2: players most likely to be traded. But then I sort

987
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: of can't help myself task. It's like, I have the

988
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 2: list of names, all names we've already talked about, right,

989
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: But then I'm like, well, but where's he being traded?

990
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: And people just want to see like fake trades and

991
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: debate them and stuff. So that's why I got into

992
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: the trade machine. So I've got five names to go

993
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 2: through and we'll look at some hypothetical trades. There's a

994
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: couple of trades for a couple of these guys, like

995
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: multiple trade ideas or partners that they could deal with.

996
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: Honorable mentions, though, two guys we're not going to get to,

997
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,760
Speaker 2: but are on the list of always getting traded, possibly

998
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: John Collins, Miles Turner, Buddy Healed Mobamba. There's a lot

999
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: of rumors floating around with him, Bogdanovic, though the Pistons

1000
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: say they're not trading him now is that just posturing

1001
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: or do you believe them? But we won't touch on

1002
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: those ones today. We've talked a lot about them before,

1003
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: and I see here on my timeline. Let's just slip

1004
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: this in right now because you wanted to talk raptors.

1005
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: Zach Low apparently said the entire league wants OG on Noobi,

1006
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: everyone wants OG. If he ever gets traded, the price

1007
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: and picks are going to surprise people because it might

1008
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: be on par almost with that with what the Cavs

1009
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: gave up for donn for Donovan Mitchell.

1010
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 4: Almost. Yeah.

1011
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody wants OG.

1012
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 4: Everybody wants OG. Fair.

1013
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: All right, listen, you did a great job putting these together, skeets.

1014
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 3: I'm excited to talk about him, But tomorrow you're putting

1015
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 3: together ojib.

1016
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: I don't think I can do that. Okay, Yeah, let's

1017
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: let's get into players most likely to be traded. Let's

1018
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: start with Kyle Kuzma. Uh Now, Kuzma a lot of

1019
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: people think will be dealt because he probably doesn't want

1020
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: to be in Washington. He you know, obviously has an

1021
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: option to sign a new contract in the summer, so

1022
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: he's probably looking for you know, greener pastures. And he's

1023
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 2: played well Kuzma. Like, people look at Kusma and go, man,

1024
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 2: that guy as our third or fourth best player. That's

1025
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: something right there. You can score, He's got some size

1026
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: when he wants to, he can give a damn defensively.

1027
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: So let's get Kyle Kuzma back to Lebron James and

1028
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 2: the Lakers Taks, Let's just do it, and we won't

1029
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 2: we won't use Westbrook in this scenario. Shout out to

1030
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: Jerome for helping with these beautiful trade machine graphics here

1031
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: that we're showing to you on YouTube. Okay, so Lakers

1032
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: get Kyle Kuzma and Delon Wright, where the Wizards receive

1033
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 2: Patrick Beverley, Kendrick Nunn, one of those future first round picks,

1034
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 2: let's call it twenty nine, could be twenty seven, you know,

1035
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: probably protected in some sort maybe top three, top five, whatever,

1036
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: and then a future second round pick. This one I

1037
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 2: did see also suggested from SI's Rohan not Carney. So

1038
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 2: what do you think tasks Kuzma going back to the

1039
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 2: Lakers for these type of pieces?

1040
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 3: Who says no? Both teams say yes, ske wow. Yeah. Essentially,

1041
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 3: this is Kuzma for a first round pick right now.

1042
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: Because those guys would be biot, probably in none in Beverly.

1043
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got some hope for Kendrick Nunn. His drop

1044
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,959
Speaker 3: off is odd. But anyways, if you're making this deal,

1045
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 3: you think that this is the best you can get

1046
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 3: for Kyle Kuzman. And I know the general consensus out

1047
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: there is like Kuzma's way better than that. He should

1048
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: warrant way more than a first round pick. But you know,

1049
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 3: depending on the first round pick, I think that could

1050
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 3: be the ceiling. Maybe you know, I'm not I'm not

1051
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 3: wheeling and dealing, but this is Kusma is an expiring

1052
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 3: deal and he's you know, playing in a bigger role

1053
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 3: than he likely should be. Now, the Lakers pick could

1054
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 3: be good. I don't know what the protections, Yeah.

1055
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: Of course, I mean I think the Wizards would if

1056
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 2: they were to do this. They're saying, give us both

1057
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: picks for Kuzma. The Lakers say no, You say, okay,

1058
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 2: we want an unprotected first round pick in whatever twenty

1059
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 2: seven and twenty nine. The Lakers probably try and say no,

1060
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 2: and then you agree on a very lightly protected I mean,

1061
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: I think that's what would happen. So I think it

1062
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 2: would be lightly protected top three, top five, something like that,

1063
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 2: with the odds that it could hit right in the future.

1064
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's and that's nice. That's nice.

1065
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 3: We'll talk about Vucevic a little later on and what

1066
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 3: he got traded for. It ended up being fromz Wagner,

1067
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 3: and there's another pick still to be conveyed to Orland.

1068
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 3: So if it's a top five protected pick in that

1069
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 3: in that ballpark, I'm okay with it. I would say

1070
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven more than twenty twenty nine because I

1071
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 3: think Lebron's gone eighties potentially gone by that point. It

1072
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 3: could be good, it could be a very good pick,

1073
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 3: and so I think that's what Kusma warrants something in

1074
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 3: that ballpark, And so I think this is a little

1075
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 3: bit more in line, but you know, maybe somebody overpays it.

1076
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 3: But with this one that you threw out there, the

1077
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 3: Wizards also get off Delon's rights money next season.

1078
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: And he's good though, I mean he got injured, but

1079
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,959
Speaker 2: he was really helping them early in the season before

1080
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: he went down.

1081
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's what the Wizards want to do, and I

1082
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 3: guess I'm leaning more towards tearing it.

1083
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 4: Down a little bit.

1084
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what's happening here.

1085
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: But hopefully, but you know, I like the Wizards looking

1086
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 3: to the future, and yeah, he would be good as

1087
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 3: a backup guard with the Lakers, or you know, playing

1088
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 3: fourth quarter minutes with the Lakers at times.

1089
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and people in the stream team are rightfully saying,

1090
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: I see Paul here. Kus is not going to get

1091
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: the Lakers to the finals, of course not. But the

1092
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 2: idea here is, you have Lebron, you get Ad back.

1093
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 2: You want to give yourself a fighting chance to get

1094
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: into the playoffs and then maybe make some noise. But

1095
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 2: you only use one pick here in this hypothetical to

1096
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: get Kus if you can, and then you do something

1097
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: with that other pick if the right opportunity presents itself. Bogdanovic,

1098
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 2: you know, either a Turner Healed. You know you're not

1099
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: getting both of them, I assume, but maybe one of

1100
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 2: them whatever, Like you're you're splitting up those first round

1101
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: picks in the future and trying to get some pieces

1102
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 2: to actually help you win a championship. I guess, around Lebron, James,

1103
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: if you still believe that could happen with the healthy

1104
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 2: Ad and Lebron, All right, our next one, let's get

1105
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 2: the raptor some help. Okay, you know I don't have

1106
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: an og trade for you. I got something much smaller

1107
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 2: let's bring Yaka Pearl back teenage mutant in Ji Purtle

1108
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: back to the Raptors. They need a center. So the

1109
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,959
Speaker 2: Raptors receive Yaka Pearl from the Spurs, and the Spur

1110
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 2: get and really, what's going on here is a first

1111
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 2: round pick, and the Raptors have like basically their war

1112
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: chest of first round picks. So it would be up

1113
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: to be the Spurs to like which one they're targeting here.

1114
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 2: Would you want it in the future, you want it now? Whatever?

1115
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 2: But ken Birch, Justin Champenny and a future first round

1116
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 2: pick for Perdal tasks what says you?

1117
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 3: Raptors say yes, Spurs saying yeah. What I don't think

1118
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 3: they're geting. They're not getting enough. Purdle is solid. He's

1119
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 3: twenty seven. It's not like he's ridiculously old. You do

1120
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 3: need some good players. I think you'd want to keep

1121
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 3: him around. I think he's too good for a future

1122
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 3: first round pick that has protections on it. I just

1123
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 3: think the Spurs would have to be overwhelmed to to

1124
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 3: deal with.

1125
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 4: I just don't think that's enough.

1126
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 3: My man Shampenny and my man ken Birch, it's not enough. Obviously,

1127
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 3: it depends what that first round pick is. But well,

1128
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 3: let's say it's a twenty three first round.

1129
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 2: The Raptors aren't good right now. You think Purtle is

1130
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 2: going to like completely save their season. I mean Partle

1131
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 2: may not even sign with the Spurs. He like he's

1132
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 2: talking about being excited about testing free agency and all

1133
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 2: that for the first time.

1134
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 4: Uh huh.

1135
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1136
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, if the Spurs know that he's going, well, that

1137
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 3: changes the equation for sure. But I could see him

1138
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 3: signing a nice four for sixty with the Spurs, you know,

1139
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 3: something of that nature.

1140
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1141
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 3: At the same time, you need players to play, you know,

1142
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 3: you need to sign some guys, and if you can

1143
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 3: get if you're the Spurs and you can sign yaka

1144
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 3: Peardle as your starting center for a long time for

1145
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 3: a decent number, I'd say keep them around. Although the

1146
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 3: Raps would do this in a heartbeat, Imo.

1147
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, he's an excellent defender, Purdle is.

1148
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: He protects the rim. He's not going to kill you. Offensively,

1149
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: He's you know, good for what thirteen and ten and

1150
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 2: a couple assists. He moves the ball. He's not a

1151
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: you know, a ballhog. By any stretch of the imagination.

1152
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: I just like, yeah, it's all down to the pick.

1153
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 2: It's all like if the Spurs are like, well, we

1154
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 2: don't see him signing here or we want to bring

1155
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: him back in that sense, he's going to be in

1156
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 2: line for a hell of a pay increase for sure.

1157
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 2: So they just get a first round pick. And like

1158
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 2: I said, the Raptors right now, hell it could be

1159
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 2: a damn good pick if their season continues to slide. Here,

1160
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 2: the Raps do have all of their first round picks,

1161
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: like they're one of the rare teams that like have.

1162
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: The Raptors are far from like a title contender, but

1163
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like a team going for it,

1164
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: like a team competing. They have all of them, uh,

1165
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 2: you know, for the foreseeable future here, so they could

1166
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 2: part on some if they want to. Okay, purdal to

1167
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 2: the Raps, you say the Raps, yes, Maybe Spurs say.

1168
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,959
Speaker 3: No, okay, yeah, And maybe you tease in with a

1169
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 3: tease the Spurs with a young player, because.

1170
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that for sure that spurs that spurs.

1171
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 3: The Spurs like projects trying to make guys work, So

1172
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 3: maybe elevate you know, a cam Birch, who's you know,

1173
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 3: been in the league for a long time to somebody

1174
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 3: like a Delano banton As. Sure, Nicholas, no problem, as

1175
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 3: Nicholas delon Leo Nardi is saying in the stream team here,

1176
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 3: So that's that's not bad. The beautiful thing if you're

1177
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 3: the Raps is that Yak would be back with skills.

1178
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, that would be fine. I forgot

1179
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 2: about that. Oh my god. You know who is ready

1180
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: for this? You were Jerome had the photoshop right.

1181
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 4: Now, that's drum.

1182
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 3: This is all for Jerome to see Yak back with

1183
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 3: his old boy Pascal siaka the heyday of the bench

1184
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 3: Bros with the Raps in the in the mid teens.

1185
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 4: Oh, things were good back then.

1186
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 2: All right, let's get Eric Gordon finally traded, right, you

1187
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 2: know this is the year lock it in. Eric Gordon

1188
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 2: is gonna be moved now. This first one is off

1189
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 2: of a Jake Fisher from Yaho report that the rocket

1190
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 2: shooting guard was being targeted by the Knicks. So would

1191
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: the Rockets like the Rockets. By all accounts, Tasks want

1192
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 2: a first round pick for Eric Gordon. Now we could

1193
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 2: debate whether he's worth it, but the Knicks have a

1194
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 2: lot of first round picks. I think they have four

1195
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 2: in this coming draft their own, Detroit's, the Wizards, and

1196
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 2: I think the Mavericks. So there's a lot. So they

1197
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: can maybe part with one of them with Cam Reddish

1198
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 2: Evan Fournier to make the money work. To get Eric

1199
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 2: Gordon to the New York Knicks. I mean, I know

1200
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 2: he doesn't fit their timeline, but they could they use

1201
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 2: that little bit of scoring there off the bench.

1202
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 4: No skin, No, not going to do it.

1203
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 3: I think it's an overpay for the Knicks and it's

1204
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 3: kind of the wrong move. I think Reddish and a

1205
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 3: first just too much. And at the same time, the

1206
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 3: Knicks aren't They're not there to be going for it

1207
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 3: within Eric Gordon.

1208
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 4: Eric Gordon is.

1209
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 3: Better suited on a championship type team, and the Knicks

1210
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 3: aren't good enough to be looking for a rental and

1211
01:00:59,520 --> 01:00:59,959
Speaker 3: their second.

1212
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 4: It is just playing so well right now.

1213
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 3: I don't really understand why you would mess up with

1214
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 3: mess it up with a guy who would help on

1215
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 3: any given night. But right now, Deuce McBride and Emmanuel

1216
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 3: Quickly are coming off the bench as their guards like

1217
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 3: you could play Uric Gordon beside them. Sure, and he

1218
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 3: would hit shots and he would come through. But I

1219
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 3: think it's an overpay and just not the right time

1220
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 3: for the next to be going for it like that.

1221
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 2: I like chicks here in the stream team that would

1222
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 2: be a Nicks move, so they shouldn't do it. And

1223
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 2: that's a great point. And I just like I see

1224
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: people overreact when they see first round pick there on

1225
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 2: the graphic because you're like, what, But I think what

1226
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 2: happens is people think first round pick, and they think

1227
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: a top five pick, they think a lottery pick. It

1228
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 2: doesn't need to be that, like it can be a

1229
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 2: late first round pick. You can still think Eric Gordon

1230
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two is not worth it fair, But

1231
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 2: just like remember it's not like a top three pick.

1232
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: It says first round. It can be at the end,

1233
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 2: it can be you know, from twenty five to thirty.

1234
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 2: Still still you can hit on those and you want

1235
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: a lot of bites at the apple if you're good

1236
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 2: at drafting. But I think the Knicks of a lot

1237
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 2: of teams, if they wanted to get some help, like

1238
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 2: I said, they can move one of these first round

1239
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 2: picks they have from some of these teams. They it

1240
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: could be an option, but okay, you don't want Eric Gordon,

1241
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 2: I have a better one. I think Eric Gordon of

1242
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 2: course should be traded for. I think a team that

1243
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: needs them though, as a team that like of course

1244
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: wants to like actually have a little help, a little experience,

1245
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 2: a little veteran savviness off of their bench in a

1246
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 2: playoff series. So a team that wants to win some series.

1247
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 2: Maybe now get on to the Pelicans. Back to the Pelicans.

1248
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 2: To me, this is not a lot and I don't

1249
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,439
Speaker 2: know if the Rockets would be as interested in this one,

1250
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 2: but Eric Gordon to the Pelicans for Jackson Hayes, who's

1251
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 2: out of their rotation, Davonte Graham, who's got a little

1252
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 2: bit of money left. So the Rockets are sort of

1253
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 2: eating that. And then a pick, a future protected first

1254
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: round pick whatever prectice protection is top ten lottery something.

1255
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 2: I don't know with that, whatever you want, what do

1256
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: you think of Pelicans getting air cording tests?

1257
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 4: You smell that smells like the Pelicans are going for it.

1258
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 3: Skeets help, That's what that's what that that's what that

1259
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 3: move would mean. I think we could barter a little

1260
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 3: bit if I'm David Griffin somehow bring it down a

1261
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 3: little bit. I don't mind it in theory for sure,

1262
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 3: but I think the Pelicans would say, no, it's a

1263
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,439
Speaker 3: bit of an overpay. But I get what you're saying

1264
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 3: for both teams, like Jackson Hayes isn't really playing a

1265
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 3: lot for them, he is a prospect, but I think maybe,

1266
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 3: I don't know, you bring it down to some degree.

1267
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just sure, not sure.

1268
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 3: Actually, Eric Gordon on the Pells plays a ton and

1269
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 3: maybe maybe if you think the Pels are there, this

1270
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 3: is a good move for them. But if you think

1271
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 3: that they are, you know, the Grizzlies of last year,

1272
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 3: and they need to go through some some some playoffs

1273
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 3: experience to get there, then why not stay with Alvarado

1274
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 3: and Dyson Daniels off your bench instead. I think I'm

1275
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 3: a Dyson Daniels believer, but I hear what you're saying.

1276
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 3: Like the Positives, brandon Ingram has hurt a lot, Eric

1277
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 3: Gordon can just slip in there at times and hit

1278
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:18,959
Speaker 3: some shots. Positives Devonte Graham is paid for the next

1279
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 3: two years and he is sort of on the fringe

1280
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 3: of their rotation as a as a guard who chucks

1281
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 3: and he's paid for twelve million for each of the

1282
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 3: next two seasons. And as I said, their guard rotation

1283
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 3: is McCollums starting, Alvarado, Dyson Daniels sort of behind him,

1284
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 3: and they play a lot of big guys besides those

1285
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 3: guys you know in Trey Murphy and Herb Jones, and I.

1286
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 4: Don't know if you mess with it. Skeets is all.

1287
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 2: A lot. He's an expiring contract. You know you're getting

1288
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 2: off Davante money. And as Option ten says, teams want shooters.

1289
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 2: That's simple in a in a playoff series, and you

1290
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:56,959
Speaker 2: never know what an injury to one of those guys.

1291
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 2: Like I'm not saying Eric Gorden comes in and takes

1292
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 2: minutes from jose Lvae, it takes a bunch of minutes

1293
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 2: from these guys like Daniels, like what you're seeing in

1294
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 2: the promise. But I do think in a playoff series,

1295
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 2: in a playoff game, for crying out loud, could Eric

1296
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 2: Gordon get you over the line maybe a little bit

1297
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: more than a rookie like Daniels in a situation that's uh,

1298
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 2: the lights are a little too bright. I think it's possible,

1299
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 2: And I just don't think it's giving up a whole time,

1300
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 2: even that first round pick. Maybe it's a second round pick.

1301
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:23,919
Speaker 2: I don't know what the Rockets. I mean, they're holding

1302
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 2: no hope that they're getting a first round or for him, so.

1303
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 4: So you don't you don't think they're getting a first round.

1304
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like they would have gotten it

1305
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 2: by now, so probably not.

1306
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 3: But I guess if you're bargaining here, you say, hey,

1307
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 3: Jackson Hayes, it's a big man setter. If people aren't

1308
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 3: familiar with him, you know, an active guy. He looked

1309
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 3: okay in minutes for the Pelicans this year, but maybe

1310
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 3: he's not an incredible player. You say to them, hey,

1311
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 3: this guy's a top ten pick not too long ago.

1312
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 3: Take him as the first round pick, and you know,

1313
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 3: accept that. Basically, basically it's him and and and getting

1314
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 3: off two years of Devonte Graham and take out the

1315
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 3: pick of the deal and the pick, take the pick

1316
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 3: out of the deal and hope, hope the Rockets bite

1317
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 3: on that. But you could turn around and say, can't

1318
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 3: DeVante Graham do what Eric gordon Is could do in

1319
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 3: a playoff series.

1320
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 2: I am not a big DeVante Graham. I think for

1321
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 2: some reason, he's considered like the score and shooter, and

1322
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 2: it's like his efficiency is always like abysmal.

1323
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 4: It's up and down.

1324
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Eric Gordon, I know a lot of people are

1325
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 3: are down in the stream. Team Eric Gordon garnering a

1326
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 3: first round pick. Yeah, Eric Gordon is still good. He's

1327
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 3: still young. He in a primetime role earlier in the

1328
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 3: season for the Rockets when the guys were out. I

1329
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 3: mean he was still hitting shots. He can still head

1330
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 3: a ridiculous clip. He can still be really good for

1331
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 3: a playoff team.

1332
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: All right.

1333
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 2: Next name on the lists most likely to be traded

1334
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 2: Jake Crowder. Okay, he should be traded because he's not

1335
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 2: even playing for the Suns. He couldn't get a contract

1336
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 2: extension in the summer. They gave a starting spot to

1337
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 2: Cam Johnson. I guess he's pissed off about that, so

1338
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 2: him and the team decide, Hey, maybe it's in everyone's

1339
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 2: best interest. You stay away from the squad. We'll figure

1340
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 2: out a deal. And here we are still trying to

1341
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 2: figure out a Jay Crowder trade. Now. NBC Sports noted

1342
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 2: there have been heat rumors for Crowder tasks, but I

1343
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 2: guess they can't match salaries or very unlikely they can

1344
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 2: match salaries until January fifteenth, when like Oladipo and Deadman

1345
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 2: could be included and are trade eligible. But back to

1346
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 2: Rohan with SI, let's just end the Jay Crowder saga. Now,

1347
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 2: I think the Cleveland Cavaliers would be fantastic for Ja

1348
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 2: Crowder to go to, and I think he would really

1349
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: help them. They're really like at times they need like

1350
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 2: a fifth piece to put around that young core. He's

1351
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 2: got a bunch of playoff experience. I think he's played

1352
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 2: in like nineteen or twenty playoff series, so I think

1353
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 2: he gives them a little bump there in terms of

1354
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 2: again veteran savviness. Jetty Osmond, Dylan Win learn to making

1355
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 2: money work. And you know, a second round pick and

1356
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 2: not even a first round pick by any means, it's

1357
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 2: something you throw one in there and we have a deal.

1358
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 2: Yes or no, oh it's not.

1359
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying, but I think you're trying

1360
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 3: to tear down my calves from the ends.

1361
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 2: No, he's gonna help. What do you mean, Jay Crowder?

1362
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 3: He might, he might, he might, he's thirty two. I

1363
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 3: think they've got J Crowder types on this roster that

1364
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 3: are younger, and I know ja Crowder is somewhat established,

1365
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 3: but the j Crowder reputation is it's a little bigger

1366
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 3: than what he provides. I mean, he he'll be out

1367
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 3: there chucking away, but this team is so good defensively

1368
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 3: they don't need j Crowder on that end. They could

1369
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 3: use his threes and in that small forward spot where

1370
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 3: they're filling it with Lamar Stevens and Isaacaccoro.

1371
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't know.

1372
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 3: I'm fine with it. I'm fine with what they're rolling with.

1373
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 3: Jeddy Osmin is very good for them. He had twenty

1374
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 3: two last night and uh, he's on an incredible deal,

1375
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 3: a deal goes into next year and he's he's so

1376
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 3: good for them off the bench, no, small Ford, I

1377
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 3: agree with you. As a bit of a hole in

1378
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 3: Jake Crowder seemingly fits it. But I'm not doing it.

1379
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 3: I mean he's I'm not doing the the one more

1380
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 3: time with the Cavs thing. I mean it could it's not,

1381
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 3: it's not bad, but uh, then you don't play Lamar

1382
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 3: Stevens or Isaac Corre. And I know, I know some

1383
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 3: would call Isaac Caro Isaac Noscoo as Trake coined him.

1384
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 7: But he he's alreright. He had twelve points last night.

1385
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 7: I think he's coming into his own But I get

1386
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 7: what you're saying. It's not I wouldn't be upset. But

1387
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 7: Jeddy's decent as well. I mean, Jeddy's Jeddy solid.

1388
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 2: And that's why I think the Suns would even be like, Okay,

1389
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,759
Speaker 2: I mean, as Cam Johnson still comes back from injury,

1390
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 2: they're not going to be that upset with that. Well,

1391
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 2: let's go to our final name here, and we're gonna

1392
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 2: do that by using a stream team comment from Mike Osborne,

1393
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 2: who said Vuvich is the Magic all time leading scorer. Sorry,

1394
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 2: I'm behind. No he's not, Mike, No, no, no. Dwight

1395
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 2: has more points. He is the franchise all time leading scorer.

1396
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 2: Goes Dwight, Howard, Nick Anderson, and then vouch. But let's

1397
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 2: trade Vucevic. Let's do it for our guy, Trey Kirby.

1398
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 2: A lot of front offices expect the Bulls probably to

1399
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 2: be sellers here so they could move. I think Zach

1400
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: Levine is unlikely with that new deal he just signed.

1401
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 2: Demarta rozen. Maybe the asking price is too high for

1402
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 2: a lot of teams. I know Steve Kerwan's Alex Caruso.

1403
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 2: Maybe that materializes. But the most likely Bull to be traded,

1404
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 2: in my opinion, is Vouch. He's an offensive mind center,

1405
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 2: he's good for sixteen and ten. He can sort of

1406
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 2: space the floor a little. I think he's like a

1407
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 2: thirty six percent three point shooter. So I've got two

1408
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 2: trades for you. And I struggled to find a team

1409
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 2: that made sense. I'll be dead honest here. I was

1410
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 2: asking Twitter last night, help me out. Let's get Vouch

1411
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 2: somewhere that that is realistic. What about the Nets wanting

1412
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 2: Vouch in a backup role tasks? And this is a

1413
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 2: weird trade. There'd be no picks because the Nets couldn't

1414
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 2: include at least twenty three or because they don't have

1415
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 2: their twenty fourth and all that. So it's like a

1416
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 2: bit of a strange swap here. But Nets get Vouch.

1417
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 2: The Bulls just go with Joe Harris and hope that

1418
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 2: he can sort of like reignite as a sharpshooter from distance,

1419
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 2: and then it would be like a young piece in

1420
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 2: an Edwards, like a Kessler Edwards, or like a day

1421
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,600
Speaker 2: Ron Sharp or an Edmond summer or Cam Thomas, like

1422
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 2: one of those younger Nets players that would intrigue maybe

1423
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 2: the Bulls in some sort of like, you know, rejiggering

1424
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 2: of their roster and maybe leaning a little bit into

1425
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 2: the tank. What do you think.

1426
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 4: You've got a deal?

1427
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 2: You like it?

1428
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 3: It's uh, it's sad if you're the Bulls and you

1429
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 3: look at the package that could be coming back one

1430
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 3: of these younger players. Kesler Edwards is averaging one point

1431
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 3: two points per game this season. Things aren't going well.

1432
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 3: Him and Joe Harris for a guy you traded a

1433
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,919
Speaker 3: lot for sounds awful.

1434
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 4: But Vouch is.

1435
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 3: An expiring deal. I think if you're getting a young player,

1436
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 3: one of those Nets guys plus Joe Harris, who I

1437
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 3: still believe in even though you know he's into his

1438
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 3: thirties and not having a great season, that might be

1439
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 3: all you get for VIC.

1440
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 2: So it sounds it sounds bad. That's the thing. I mean,

1441
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 2: that's a depressing trade board. So I apologize the Bulls fans.

1442
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 2: I mean I think the Nets do that you know heartbeat,

1443
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 2: I like, you know him in a backup role or

1444
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 2: you know, spot minutes at center and having the starting

1445
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 2: games where Nick Claxon whatever can't go. It's a different

1446
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 2: look I like for the Nets there when you have

1447
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 2: Claxton and then you have Vouch. But it's not a

1448
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 2: lot going back. So how about this one. How about

1449
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 2: the Knicks, the other team in New York getting him

1450
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 2: for Derrick Ross. Let's sell some tickets. Baby back to

1451
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 2: the Bulls. Cam Reddish, that's your flyer. You know, my

1452
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 2: buddy Grish is going to be pumped about that. And

1453
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 2: then a first round pick, so you get one of

1454
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 2: those picks you gave up when you trade it with

1455
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 2: the Magic for Vouch, you get one back in uh

1456
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 2: impossibly from the Knicks, because like I said, I went

1457
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,879
Speaker 2: through all the picks they have. What do you think.

1458
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 4: Do it?

1459
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 3: Derek Row's going home a flyer for Cam Reddish as

1460
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 3: you said, and a first round pick that'd be nice

1461
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 3: to have in the Bulls war chest. And they need

1462
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 3: those picks, there's no doubt. Because they traded Vouch for

1463
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 3: Wendell Carter Junior, who they'd probably trade for him straight

1464
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 3: up again if they if they could trade straight up

1465
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 3: for Wendell Carter juw they probably do it. But a

1466
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 3: first round pick that ended up being Franz Wagner went

1467
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 3: to the Magic with Wendell Carter Junior plus the Bulls

1468
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 3: pick this year could be such a juicy pick for

1469
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 3: the Magic that they own. It's top four protected, but

1470
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 3: still it could be good. The Magic struck out, but

1471
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 3: at the same time sunk cost. It's gone rose and

1472
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 3: reddish and a first round pick. That's the best you're

1473
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,799
Speaker 3: gonna do. And you could take a flyer. Baby can't read.

1474
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 2: It well, I can't believe this. I think he's here.

1475
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 2: We're gonna try and see what his connection's like. But

1476
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 2: a Bulls fan himself, Trey Kirby, Uh, where are you

1477
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 2: and what are your thoughts on these hypothetical Bulls trades?

1478
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 2: Look at this guy.

1479
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 5: I'm in Brookfield, Illinois. You know it's still go bull

1480
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 5: season out here.

1481
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 2: Yep.

1482
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 5: I need some picks, skeats, gonna need some pixies. I

1483
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 5: got you one one protected pick.

1484
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's likely protected, but I don't think heavily protected.

1485
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 2: There's a lot of picks the Nicks could throw your

1486
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 2: way rosen reddish though for Vucci.

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01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 5: I'll only interested in the pick, sir, Okay, it's all

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01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 5: pick you want me from here?

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01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 2: On multiple first round picks for vuc I don't think

1490
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:41,799
Speaker 2: that's happening.

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01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 5: I mean a thirty six shooter, ten rebounds, a game,

1492
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:51,719
Speaker 5: two time All star, that's worth multiple picks. Multiple picks.

1493
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 2: Oh, like a like a Donovan Mitchell type package.

1494
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 5: I think it's a mental type package, an O G

1495
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 5: type package.

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01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 2: If you will, there you go, there you go. You

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01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 2: doing right now? You're going sledding or hitting the slopes,

1498
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 2: or we're going to the zoo. You're going to the zoo.

1499
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 2: It's the temperature.

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01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 5: Oh, it's freezing cold. It is so cold. Yeah, not

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01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 5: just me going for a solo zoo trip. Okay, all right,

1502
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 5: we'll snow pants on.

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01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I hope the animals are even out and about.

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01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, the kids were asking about a giraffe and I'm like,

1505
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 5: that'll be a long scarf.

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01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 2: Thanks for popping in. We'll try and get you. We'll

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01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 2: try and get you two first round picks for Booch,

1508
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:35,759
Speaker 2: which is unlikely.

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01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:36,520
Speaker 4: My man.

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01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 2: Oh, it's great.

1511
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 4: That guy's got a better internet connection than.

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01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe. I couldn't believe. I didn't think that

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01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 2: was gonna work that well, Okay, we uh will call

1514
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 2: it there. My five players most likely to be traded,

1515
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 2: though they are in no particular order, Kyle Kuzma, Yaka Perle,

1516
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 2: Eric Rdon, Jae Crowder and Vucci Baby Nikola. We will

1517
01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: he get one first round pick back for the ball.

1518
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 2: We'll find out. That was fun. Love the comments in

1519
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 2: the stream. Team all you podcast listeners, tweet at me,

1520
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 2: at j skis or at No Dunk sink I and

1521
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 2: c in the end your thoughts on all those hypothetical trades.

1522
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 2: We got to take one more break when we come back.

1523
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 2: Picking results and task to tweeted the night. Okay, pick

1524
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 2: them results. Last night Bucks Pelicans Milwaukee, they were the favorites,

1525
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 2: one and a half favorites on the road. Covered that easily.

1526
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,759
Speaker 2: Great job putting like Drew Holliday and your boy Wesley

1527
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 2: Matthews on Zion. That was the defensive game plan and

1528
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 2: it worked pretty well. So that's a win for tasks

1529
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 2: with the Bucks and losses for the Pelicans. Guys, Me

1530
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 2: and Trey aka Jr.

1531
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 4: Rome.

1532
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 2: So here's tonight's game.

1533
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 3: Task just quickly on that box game. Sometimes you forget how.

1534
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 4: Good Drew Holiday is.

1535
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 3: Right, I'm just a monster, a monster. It's stealing the

1536
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 3: ball from from Zion. What a game plan anyway, Tonight

1537
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 3: Memphis at Denver should be a great game.

1538
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 4: Top of the West.

1539
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 3: We're going to The line is itsy bitsy just plus

1540
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 3: one and a half for the Denver Nuggets at home.

1541
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:08,520
Speaker 3: It's essentially a pick them skates. You think the Grizzlies

1542
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 3: will win by two points or more, while myself and

1543
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 3: Tray Jerome I think that Denver will take care of business.

1544
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 2: These these these small lines, man, basically pick them, very

1545
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 2: very difficult. These are two great teams. The Nuggets are

1546
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 2: a little uh. Sometimes they look like the best team

1547
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 2: in the West, and other nights they like they lay

1548
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 2: a stinker. So I don't know what to expect really,

1549
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 2: so yeah, give me the gratz. I'll swerve on this one. Okay.

1550
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 2: Let's get to.

1551
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 3: Yeah could be mad, he could be Matt Moran could

1552
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 3: be mad about getting booted.

1553
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, maybe Moran hasn't bounced back. Let's get

1554
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 2: to tweeted the night.

1555
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 3: Tweet out the night.

1556
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 8: Wow, tweet the night goes to Jim Peterson, the Minnesota

1557
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 8: Timberwolves analysts that we talked about earlier who gave us

1558
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 8: plenty of love as.

1559
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 3: The guys who popularize the term weggie, leggie and pigeon.

1560
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 3: You talked about it on the broadcast, and he actually

1561
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 3: retweeted our tweet about the nomenclature, the verbiage that it's

1562
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 3: weggie leggie on the back of the rim, pigeon on

1563
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 3: top of the backboard, with the tweet that said, I

1564
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 3: actually have this tweet saved on my computer just for

1565
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 3: quick reference. And yeah, he said, I had to refresh

1566
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 3: my leggie pigeon lexicon. So he had it. He had

1567
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 3: it in the back of his brain. He has it

1568
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 3: on his computer. So shout out to Jim Peterson for

1569
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 3: forgiving us the love.

1570
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:43,679
Speaker 4: There.

1571
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 3: We are no dunks now, Jim Peterson, no more the

1572
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:52,759
Speaker 3: starter's FYI. But in defense of Jim Peterson, we're showing

1573
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 3: you a photo of me talking to him and Dave

1574
01:18:55,560 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 3: Ben's former Wolves played by play Man. That's when we met.

1575
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 3: He knew us as the starters, and so yeah, I

1576
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 3: tweeted that the man is a legend. I taught him

1577
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 3: everything he knows though about weggies, leggies and pigeons. But yeah,

1578
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 3: Jim was a player in the eighties, played with the Key,

1579
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 3: went to the finals with him in the eighty six

1580
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 3: there as a backup played all the playoff games that year.

1581
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:23,879
Speaker 3: So shout out to Jim.

1582
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you Jim for that again. Kind kind shout

1583
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 2: out on last night's broadcast. I love a broadcast that's

1584
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 2: just going to go on for minutes talking about weggies, leggies,

1585
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 2: and pigeons. We love to see it. Let's call it there.

1586
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 2: Show out to TK for dropping in from an Illinois

1587
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 2: zoo to demand more draft picks for Vucevic. Again, let's

1588
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 2: hear your thoughts on all of those hypothetical trades I

1589
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 2: fired at you or some potentially other ones. Maybe email

1590
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 2: them in for tomorrow's beach step in No Dunks at

1591
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 2: the Athletic dot com best way to email him in

1592
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 2: that's the address, or tweet them in at No Dunk Sinc.

1593
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 4: I n C.

1594
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 2: Or if you're feeling really frisky, we'll leave them in

1595
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 2: the YouTube comments below. This video back tomorrow live at

1596
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:14,560
Speaker 2: ten am Eastern tasks you guaranteed a stronger Wi Fi performance,

1597
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 2: and I gotta say it got a little dicey for

1598
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 2: a second near the start, but then you were humming along,

1599
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 2: coming in crystal clear for the most part. So well done.

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01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 2: Do we ever figure out what happened like what was

1601
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:25,799
Speaker 2: an outage?

1602
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 3: It was better, I will say, hopefully even better tomorrow

1603
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 3: because I yeah, it was a little wafflely there. But yeah,

1604
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I'm not buying that. Oh,

1605
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:41,679
Speaker 3: there's kids home now and the networks are being used more.

1606
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 4: Come on, that's it.

1607
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 2: No, I don't know, man, Well that's streaming.

1608
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 4: I don't know, set up.

1609
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:53,440
Speaker 3: It's yeah, I mean everybody's streaming movies these days, kids underpads.

1610
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 3: But no, no, that's not what it was.

1611
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 4: I don't know what it was.

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01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, we were happy that it worked today. Thank

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01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 2: again everybody joining us live. Thanks to all the podcast listeners.

1614
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 2: Leave your boys five star rating and review. We'll see

1615
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 2: you tomorrow morning live atennaum Easter. Until then, Clipper bros,

1616
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 2: you heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

1617
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 5: Love you guys awesome.

1618
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and remember drafts have really long scarves.

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Speaker 2: Embrace the day, people,