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Speaker 1: a little earlier this week, Stucky, my main man. We're

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Speaker 1: having a rough week. Is Ravens got curb stomped by

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Speaker 2: So yeah, they don't really show anything, which clearly showed.

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Speaker 2: Yep, seriously, But can we really trust Alabama yet? I

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Speaker 2: Georgia hasn't lost a home game in regulation since twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I I will say, like the quarterbacks that

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Speaker 2: And if you wanted to take the three and a

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I I have LSU to win the SEC.

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Speaker 1: So they're good on they're good on D.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the D is really good, playing hard, but the

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Speaker 2: don't know my first fifty five or fifty five is

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Speaker 2: They haven't played any really good defenses. And this kid,

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Speaker 2: just can't make this up. Is Lane Kiffin's daughter Landry,

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Speaker 2: that's another layer to this. I'm sure Lane might have

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Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people in the SEC

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Speaker 2: I think part of that is like there's I guess

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Speaker 2: like I don't I don't want to be bothered by

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Speaker 2: clear cut.

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Speaker 1: That's my point, David.

431
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 2: There's like eight to ten teams that literally, like normally

432
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 2: there's like, all right, it's pretty much gonna be one

433
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 2: of these three to four, sometimes one to two that

434
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 2: are a cut above. This year, like especially with some

435
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 2: of these young quarterbacks. You could have some teams even

436
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: rise up some more, but there's like eight to ten

437
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 2: teams that are in that discussion this year, So yeah,

438
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 2: they certainly could win it all. Now, so I did think.

439
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: There's more pressure on them in this game, right than

440
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 1: Oregon and Land in this spot. Yeah, there's especially he

441
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 1: beat him in the championship game what nine months ago?

442
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 2: Yep. Now, I don't think Oregon is as good. They're

443
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: obviously super talented, but they went from a six year

444
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 2: senior quarterback and countless NFL guys. They also lost one

445
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 2: of their best receivers before the season started, and like,

446
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 2: Oregon has looked so much better than Penn State just

447
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,199
Speaker 2: on the eye test. Neither has played anybody, but from

448
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: what I've heard is that Penn State has showed nothing,

449
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 2: which is smart because now, can you just turn it on,

450
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 2: We'll take them some time. But they've just gone super vanilla. Basically,

451
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 2: their season is a two game season and they just

452
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 2: need to pretty much win one and then they're in

453
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 2: the collegewall playoff. But they have Ohio State and they

454
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 2: have Oregon, and you have three cakewalks and then a

455
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 2: bye week and then Oregon. So there is no reason

456
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 2: to show anything. That's like the smart way to approach it,

457
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 2: and that's a huge advantage. I mean, Oregon went across country,

458
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 2: played Northwestern back played their arrival and then back again. Meanwhile,

459
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 2: Penn State, you say what you want about James Franklin,

460
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 2: he hasn't won these big games a lot of it.

461
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: A lot of the reason for that is because he

462
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 2: gets he clans up and then in these big moments.

463
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 2: And that's one of the things I'm afraid afraid about

464
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 2: because I did play Penn State minus three. But Landing

465
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 2: is really aggressive, and I mean you see this with Yeah,

466
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: he's got Dan Campbell to Campbell like he's gonna go

467
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: for it on fourth downs, and James Franklin gets too

468
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: conservative too often, so that that does scare me a bit.

469
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 2: But you have throw out what you want about James frankline.

470
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: You have two of the best coordinators in college football

471
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 2: who have a bye, so they have two weeks prepare,

472
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,479
Speaker 2: but essentially they've had two months all summer they've been

473
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 2: preparing for this game. Unley Sha Wrinkles. You know they're

474
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: probably gonna run all or more. That was one of

475
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: the points of emphasis. So that is a big advantage

476
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 2: to me. I mean, they're probably the best ordinator duo

477
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: in college football. Cotal Nikki and Jim Knowles. Big advantage there.

478
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 2: You know, then you have the travel Oregon State. Oregon

479
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: played last week, and I just look, if you go

480
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: based on the YT test and you go based on

481
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 2: just the results this year, you would be like, all right,

482
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: I'm taking the points of the organ But before the season,

483
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: this spread would have been seven and a half or more.

484
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 2: So I'm sticking with my priory because I'm basically just saying, like, look,

485
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 2: Oregon has a brand new team. So they were like

486
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: pedal to the medal and they're like figuring out what

487
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 2: they have with more and so they're there and they're

488
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: way more talented than all the teams they played. So

489
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 2: obviously they looked great, but I still need this, like

490
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 2: Dante Moore has never won a big game in his life,

491
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: Like the quarterback experience. Now you're going to Happy Valley

492
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: at night, white out, Like that's that's way different. Their

493
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: best receivers a freshman, the true freshmen, their best tight ends,

494
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 2: a true freshmen. Like you're asking a lot of these

495
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 2: guys going up against a really good defense, and I

496
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: need to see it more. Hasn't been under pressure, he

497
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 2: hasn't had to make like tight window throws. And this

498
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: is a guy that still really struggled anytime he got

499
00:24:58,359 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: in now it's gonna look a lot better at Organ,

500
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: but Ucla whenever he played like a real power for opponents.

501
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I think the Penn State prior

502
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: has the more reliable quarterback at this moment, the better

503
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 2: coordinator collection, the better running backs. Their receivers are much improved.

504
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 2: Like that's probably a wash, and I would take the

505
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: Penn State defense over the Oregon defense right now. So

506
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 2: I think this is just you're getting Penn State cheap

507
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: in a good spot. They haven't showed anything, and I'll

508
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 2: make Dante more prove it to me that him and

509
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 2: you know, these young kids on this Oregon offense who

510
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: haven't really played in a big game like this can

511
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: get it done on the road. So I did play

512
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: Penn State. I could look foolish, but I'm trusting more

513
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 2: in my priors and basically just saying like I don't

514
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: really care what I saw these first three weeks against

515
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 2: you know, little sisters of the poor. For each three,

516
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: all three teams throwing the bye week throwing like Penn

517
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: State holding stuff back the more experienced team at home.

518
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: I did roll with Penn State minus three.

519
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: Well, if Penn State wins this game, then their season

520
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 1: again shifts to a two game season where they can

521
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: lose to Ohio State. But if then they beat them

522
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: in the conference championship game, would they'd probably be a

523
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: top four seed. What do you think? Yep, So it's

524
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: like that they would. Just now, you would rather lose

525
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: to Ohio State and then win the conference championship than

526
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: the inverse because it might cost you a buye, which

527
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna find out this year exactly how

528
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: that works. If a situation like this place, because you go, like,

529
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: is one game more important than the other? I don't know,

530
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: how do you think that would play out?

531
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it depends on like what the other like how

532
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 2: those other teams look at There's so many variables.

533
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: But if they're both like you know, eleven and one

534
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: going into the game.

535
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, if they win, I don't I think it wouldn't

536
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: matter because like, if you lose this home game, but

537
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: then you get a win at Ohio State, like that

538
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: kind of watch through. If you win this, you lose

539
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 2: at High State, everyone's gonna give you a pass. So

540
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: I think at eleven to one win the conference title,

541
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: you're you're definitely a top seed. The only I mean,

542
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 2: they have Indiana, but they get them at home. That's

543
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: like the only other really.

544
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: To I'll give signety some credit. I mean that was

545
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: I didn't take them that seriously based off last year.

546
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: And you win a game. Who knows how good Illinois is,

547
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: but you win at sixty three to ten. That was impressive.

548
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 2: They dominated that game start to finish. I mean Illinois

549
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: did lose it. They were without their top sixty backs

550
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: at one point in the game, but there was they

551
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 2: were going to blow them out of the water regardless.

552
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, I did play Fenn State here should be

553
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 2: a good one though.

554
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: Okay, last college game. Want to hit on Washington Ohio State.

555
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: This is where, like listen, it pains me that the

556
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: Pac twelve doesn't exist, but I do think it adds

557
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: to the Like the Big ten is just better because

558
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: of this, And I would say the same thing with

559
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: the SEC adding Texas and Oklahoma. When you start getting

560
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: like a random Arkansas playing Oklahoma or Texas playing you know,

561
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, it's just more interesting. And Ohio State playing

562
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: at Washington. I remember a couple of years ago before

563
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: they had moved conferences. I think this game got canceled

564
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: because of the VID. There was some It was Washington

565
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: and Oregon we're both playing Ohio State and in Michigan.

566
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: I forget the exactly what it was, but it was like, Okay,

567
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: these games were sweet. These were like the first couple

568
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: of weeks opening games, and they both got canceled. It

569
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: might have been twenty twenty. But this is a good game.

570
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Jed's pretty good. And I remember

571
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: a buddy told me, I think we had talked about

572
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: it that last year was a transition yeer for him

573
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: and they were gonna use their nil once they got

574
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: a year under their belt. And clearly I have I

575
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: just watched them against JUC Davis, which obviously is not

576
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: a fair fight, but they definitely are way more talented

577
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: than they were last year. Now Ohio State's a different animal,

578
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: but this is not an easy it's a long travel

579
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: for him, tough place to play, like it's I wouldn't

580
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: consider it like, you know, the best environment in America.

581
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: But it's not. It's not bad. I mean, it's just

582
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: this is a tough game for a while. State.

583
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I played Washington, I mean I played them early

584
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: in the week.

585
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: Plus they're getting over touchdown I'm seven and a half points.

586
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think Washington's super live in this game

587
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: to pull off an upset. There's a couple things like

588
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: they're better in the trenches and if people aren't familiar

589
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: with Washington, and I agree, I think Washington is one

590
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: of the most under rated home fields. You know, it's

591
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: not the best, but it's one of the most owner

592
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: They've they've won twenty two straight at home, which is

593
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: the longest for them since I think they're you.

594
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: Removed the year when Peterson retired and they put in

595
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: what's his name? They've been really good for almost a

596
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: decade now, haven't they.

597
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: Yep? Yeah, and yeah they've They've won twenty two straight

598
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: at home. They if you're not familiar with Washington, they

599
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: have maybe the first receiver taken in the draft next year.

600
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 2: I mean, because uh Smith is not going to go

601
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 2: for all.

602
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: He can't.

603
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: He can't go to the draft nation. It's crazy. On Boston,

604
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: they have one of the best running backs in the

605
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: country and a guy who who can also catch out

606
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: of the back. I mean, he's he's going to be

607
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: drafted to play in the NFL. Demon Williams, their quarterback,

608
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: is very, very good. He can run, he can throw

609
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: like he's a problem. They're better in the trenches, so

610
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: I I assume, like Ohda State's going to try to

611
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: take away Boston, but that's where like Williams's legs, that's

612
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: where uh, that's where their their backs are going to

613
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: come in out of the backfield. So there's some things

614
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: they could do here. And then Jed Fish is probably

615
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: a top five play color play designer in college football.

616
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: They're so good in the scripted portion, which is huge

617
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: when you're playing this huge game at home if you

618
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: can like jump out and not take nothing suffocated early

619
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: and just build that momentum, get the crowd into it.

620
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 2: And yeah, I still have questions about Allhio State. They're

621
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: obviously one of the best handful of teams in the country,

622
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: but my questions coming into the year. We're okay saying

623
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: what's he going to look like? When is he ready?

624
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: He's looked great the first the last two weeks, but

625
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: against Texas it was not great. And I mean they

626
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: if Texas could score in the red zone, Ahio State

627
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: loses that game and we give all we gave all

628
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: the credits to the Ohio State defense, but the Texas

629
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: offense and arch have been horrendous since like the next

630
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: two weeks. Arch's went eleven of twenty four for one

631
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: hundred and forty yards against Utah at home, So they

632
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: I don't like it. So I had to I had

633
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: to like just step back and say, okay, wait, because

634
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: Ohio State defense lost a lot, Maybe they're not as

635
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: dominant as they looked. Maybe I still have questions about

636
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: Matt Patricia, So like I'll take Fish over Patricia. Now.

637
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: There's a couple of things to keep in mind here,

638
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: because the Washington offense is really really good. It's one

639
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: of the best in the country. I don't I think

640
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:29,719
Speaker 2: that they can score here, but can there? Can they

641
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: get stops? So that's the number one. It's gonna be

642
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: like saying it's his first true roadue start in a

643
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: hostile environment. We've seen Freshman's part of my friend ship

644
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: the bed and that's there all year long. Uh so

645
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: that's that's not easy. We'll see all he handles that.

646
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: Washington plays a lot of cover one, a lot of man.

647
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: Their defense coordinators Ryan Walters and and they played a

648
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: lot of men last year too. But they have two

649
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: really really good corners Price Sock. They're both Arizona UH transfers.

650
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: Price Socking to Caryo Davis. Both going to play at

651
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: the next level. So and that's the whole. They need

652
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: that for their for their defense. They can just match

653
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: up on the outside. They're actually getting pressure this year

654
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: too without blitzing. Davis is questionable. He hurt his ribs.

655
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna play. They need him. He didn't

656
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: play last week. This is like something to keep an

657
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: eye on. He didn't play last week. So they brought

658
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: in this sophomore who got roasted by Washington State. He

659
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 2: was he was getting beat constantly. Then they had to

660
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: bring in a true freshman. You don't want to be

661
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: doing that against Carnel Tate Jemi Smith. Like that's they

662
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: need Davis, they need Pristock in there. So that's something

663
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: to watch. They also lost their last their best linebacker

664
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: last week to an injury. He's not gonna play, but

665
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: they might get an all conference kid from Arizona who

666
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: towards ACL last October. He has been practicing. He might

667
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: come back, which is would be big because Washington doesn't

668
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: have like the depth of an Ohio State. So that's

669
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: another thing to keep an eye on. And they might

670
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: get one of their best pass rushers who wasn't played

671
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 2: this year back, So there's some moving piece on the defense,

672
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: and you want this defense at full strength, especially Davis.

673
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: That's something to keep an eye. But if Davis does play,

674
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: they have the guys to man up on the outside

675
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: for saying into some tight throws, some mistakes. Potentially can

676
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: the run defense hold up. I don't think this Ohio

677
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: State run game is anywhere close as good as last year,

678
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 2: so that's good, but that does scare me. But yeah,

679
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of intillgibles here that are

680
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: working in Washington's favor. So I took some purple rain

681
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: plus the points. I think they're pretty live here, especially

682
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: if Davis plays, but if he doesn't, it could be trouble.

683
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: Cale's transition to the NFL. I saw a number and

684
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is a classic team, just blows out.

685
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: They're going to Pittsburgh. Tomlin's a home dog. And then

686
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: I realized, well, they're starting the International Games, so not

687
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: quite the I'm like, uh, don't love that number quite

688
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: as much. The Steelers. I just I don't know, man,

689
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: I don't see it and I think this week, you

690
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: know who knows. I mean it's Carson Wentz in twenty

691
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: twenty five better than JJ McCarthy right now. I mean,

692
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: that's I guess a good problem to have, given that

693
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: if they didn't have a backup. I mean, JJ one,

694
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: he's not even capable of playing. He's injured again. But

695
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: I mean seven of eight cords were pretty bad. I

696
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: just think if this defense is flying around, Aaron to

697
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: me just he's looked old for a couple of years now.

698
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: He just kind of slings that go route. He's always

699
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: screaming at the referees for a flag. I mean his

700
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: he looks old in the face. He's looked old for years,

701
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: but like his play now looks his age. It's I mean,

702
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: father time comes for as all. I mean, he's fucking

703
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: older than me. I mean I and I'm forty years old.

704
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: So it's like we shouldn't be that shocked. I think

705
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: the Steelers are in big trouble. Just big picture. You

706
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: get five turnovers and you struggle to win the game.

707
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: If you give a good team, if you gave the Bills,

708
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: the Ravens the Lions five turnovers, like what the score

709
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: bee would you if you had to guess forty plus points, right,

710
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: you know, So, I mean you're gonna give that many possessions.

711
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 2: And many of them came like at the goal line,

712
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: like driving for the win, like it was insane.

713
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: This feels too easy. They'll taking the Vikings here because

714
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: there's no like, I don't know how this line is

715
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: up bigger. I guess it's just Carson Wentz.

716
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Carson Wentz. People are always gonna Steelers are a

717
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: public team. When there's a plus next to them, it's

718
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 2: like Aaron Rodgers versus Carson Wentz. There's gonna be enough

719
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: support for the Steelers. But I agree it's under three.

720
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: It's Vikings or nothing. Bikers are gonna get Addison back.

721
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: They should get Kelly back, their center, Darresol came back,

722
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: their left tackles, their offensive line Jackson will missed, the

723
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: rookie from Ohio State who's looked really, really good. But

724
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: they should be okay on the offensive line. Their defense

725
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: is pretty much close to healthy. The Steelers are not

726
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: like they have a bunch of defensive injuries that we're

727
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: recording this on Wednesdays early afternoon, so I don't know

728
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: they're injury report, but they're not fully healthy on defense,

729
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: and their defenses looked horrendous, Like you're talking about a

730
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: Steelers team that arguably should be oh and three, and

731
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 2: then this line definitely would be over a field goal.

732
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: Like they were outplayed by the Sea Offs. I know

733
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: there was a Fluke special teams player, but they were

734
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: outplayed by the Jets for the most part, and then

735
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: they were outplayed last weekend, so they can.

736
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: So they've been out gained in their two wins by

737
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: like two hundred and eighty yards or something.

738
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they're they easily could be oh and three,

739
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 2: And I mean the Vikings have a pair of dominant wins.

740
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: They should win the line of scrimmage battle on both

741
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: sides now that they're healthier on the offensive line. The

742
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: Steelers defensive line besides Hayward, has not been great. And

743
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: where this comes down to for me is you pretty

744
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: much alluded to it. The Steelers can't run the ball.

745
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: They've been really poor there. Their offensive line has not

746
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 2: been great. They're tackles in particular, and the Vikings defense

747
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 2: where you can get them is on the ground. The

748
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,479
Speaker 2: Steelers can't really run it. And Rogers in the worst

749
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 2: quarterback in the league this year under pressure, and Steelers

750
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: are thirty first and pass block win rate, So what

751
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 2: does that mean they can't run it? They're gonna be

752
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 2: in third and longs. Rogers is six of twenty two

753
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: when under pressure this season with three picks, so and

754
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: Vikings are top three in pressure, right, so it's gonna

755
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: be third and longs and Flores bringing pressure on Rogers

756
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 2: and he's not gonna have any recourse.

757
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 1: And was there a better quarterback in his prime against

758
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: the pressure against pressure than him?

759
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: Nope.

760
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: That tells you everything you need to know, right.

761
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now it's just it's it's sad to watch.

762
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, under three. I like the Vikings favorites have

763
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: been really good in these overseas games.

764
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: For what it's worth, you called it last week. You

765
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 1: said Week three is prime for an upset, right, and

766
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: too bad?

767
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 2: I bet the Rams plus three and a half, probably

768
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: the worst feat of the twenty years.

769
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: But the Browns beat the Packers. Now, you also said

770
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: this Brown's defense is good. And listen, you win a

771
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: game ten to nothing or ten to three on the

772
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: road at Cleveland at the end of the season, if

773
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: you win thirteen fourteen games. No one judges you for that.

774
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: This isn't college football. No one gives a shit. Right

775
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: it's a good win, Get out of there, get moving.

776
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: They lose that game, so now everyone's like, what's up

777
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: with the Packers the Cowboys. I probably was a little

778
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: hyperbolic calling Eberflus the worst defensive coach. And I understand

779
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: that they have bad defensive personnel. But when guys are

780
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: wide open, and this used to happen to Brian and Staley,

781
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: when guys are wide open, that means the coaching the

782
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: players have no clue what's going on. That means they

783
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: are whether it's me or you playing defensive back, they're

784
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: just completely And this is the NFL digs tripping against

785
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: Rome happens like the people trip, But when a guy's

786
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: just wide open, especially in red zone spots, like your

787
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: players are clueless when they break the huddle, I don't.

788
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: I think I would be stunned if the Packers don't

789
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: win this game by double digits. Now I think the

790
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: thing would be how good, like how potent is the

791
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: Packers offense? But I just think it's an easy one

792
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: full of floor to kind of, you know, just fucking

793
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: get after their ass this week, and he's already kind

794
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: of a red ass defensively with ceed gone. I mean

795
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: you felt it immediately when he rolls his anklely like

796
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: their offense goes from pretty good like oh, not quite

797
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: the same. This feels, especially with the Mica stuff like

798
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: thirty to thirteen or something written all over. And this

799
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: is my favorite line on the board, and I typically

800
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: don't love these, like you know, minus seven's on the road,

801
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: but I'd be stunned if the Packers. I'll look at

802
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: the Packers differently if this game's close.

803
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Cowboys. Also the Cowby's offense now

804
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: as you goslam, you also have a couple of your

805
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: starting offensive linemen around now, so their offense still can

806
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 2: be feisty with Dak, who can probably put up some points.

807
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: I don't mind the over, but.

808
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: I don't thickenses look good.

809
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how they get stops and their

810
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: their offense just isn't isn't at the same level, not

811
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: with the healthy offense line, and of course not without Lamb,

812
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: like that was gonna be what they had to fall

813
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: back on this year. You know, if the offensive line

814
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 2: was good, Dak was great, and then you brought in

815
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 2: pickings and then you have these two dynamic receivers. Well,

816
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: now you're basically the Steelers offensive last year and without

817
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: a defense. Uh, special teams are good. So like how

818
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: many points can they steal with their returns? Kick returns?

819
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: And then Aubrey hitting seventy yarders? So that's always indoors.

820
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: That's always the thing with the Cowboys, Like there's gonna

821
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: be a lot of drives where they just need like

822
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: ten yards to get a field goal.

823
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: But how do they could what do you think they

824
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: could trade Aubrey for third round?

825
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: It's possible. The forty nine ers they they they should.

826
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: Uh so.

827
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 2: The forty nine is also can't figure out the kickoff

828
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 2: the new kickoff. Real, they're the worst. Teams are the worst,

829
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: uh the best starting field position against them. You know

830
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: who has figured it out? The Rams, The Rams and

831
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: the Panthers. They kicked these knuckleballs, these like knuckleball line drives,

832
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: and these teams can't. The Eagles like started at like

833
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 2: the twelve yard.

834
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: Line, like all game long, is insane.

835
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 2: But the Panthers and Rams the average starting field position

836
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: for their opponents, it's like the twenty yard line. Wow,

837
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: and then like the forty nine ers is like the

838
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 2: thirty four. Like it's a huge difference.

839
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: I hate it when like was it Baits on Monday

840
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 1: Night where he tried to like he's trying to angle

841
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: these and it goes out of bounds. You just give

842
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: it to him on the forty. I'm like, give it,

843
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: give it to him on the forty. If if you

844
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 1: gave that to Bryce Young on the forty, let alone,

845
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson that that is a devastating play to kick

846
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: it out of bounds. Nowadays, I would never angle it

847
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: toward the front pylons. Ever, the penalty is too great.

848
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's basically I would imagine the expected points,

849
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 1: but it'd be like minimum, like two and a half

850
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: three points.

851
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, forty the Yeah, if you have teams have to start,

852
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 2: I'm curious see how many cats on how many gonna

853
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: start practiment these line drive knucklers. I don't know if

854
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: every kick I don't know the ins and outs of

855
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,959
Speaker 2: the heart of kicking, but I don't know how easy

856
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: it is to learn to do that. But that's been

857
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: really effective so far.

858
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: This rule has worked because the kickoff is more interesting

859
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 1: for sure.

860
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the kickoff percentage. The amount of returns

861
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 2: is through the roof. It's insane. It's like eighty percent

862
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 2: of them are being returned. But the field position hasn't

863
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: gone up too much. But there's more variance and part

864
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: of that, it's like some of these teams are doing

865
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: it really well and then there's there's bigger returns. There's

866
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: a lot of times the teams are starting at the forty.

867
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 2: So it definitely made it more interesting. But yeah, Packers

868
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: should score it will here. Like their offensive line is

869
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: banged up, so I'm curious to see if they get

870
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: some of those guys back, which really cost them last week.

871
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: They couldn't block Cleveland couldn't block them. There was no block.

872
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 2: They had nothing. They can run Jordan run, Yes, that

873
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: was amazing, Like they they couldn't block them now there. Now,

874
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: if you're playing the Cowboys and you have offense lineages,

875
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: it's not really that big of a deal. They don't

876
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 2: have an elite pass rush. And then you mentioned Parsons,

877
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, I couldn't bet the Cowboys here. The Packers

878
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: are nothing. I actually don't mind the over either, So

879
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: Cowboys canna be throwing the fast up tempo and the

880
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: Packers should score it will Cowboys should put up a

881
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:30,959
Speaker 2: couple of touchdowns here at the very minimum. So yeah,

882
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: and then I'm curious to see if the Browns against

883
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: the lines, like the Raiders aren't able to get pressure.

884
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: The the Browns can get pressure, and that lines into

885
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: your offensive line is an issue if you have guys,

886
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 2: and Cleveland has guys and golf. If you can get

887
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: him under pressure, that's how you fluster him. And it's

888
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: gonna be indoors. Can the can they can they hold

889
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: him down enough to where Flacco and that offense can

890
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: do enough. I don't know, but uh, it'll be fun

891
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: to watch for sure. But yeah, I agree with you

892
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: on your Packers take. I what else did I play?

893
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: I did play The Falcons lines come down a bit,

894
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: but I still like them. The Commanders are Pennis had

895
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: a nightmare game. I still believe in him. He just

896
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: it was an awful game. Quarterbacks have these when they're young.

897
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 2: He hasn't even started the full season yet. The Commanders

898
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 2: are beat up, their secondaries beat up, lost a couple

899
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 2: of starters. I mean they're signing like Darnell Savage from

900
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: the Jags, which just got clubby might start this week. McLaurin.

901
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to play. We just still

902
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: don't know. And Jane Daniels, if he does play, I

903
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to be mobile. So yeah, this

904
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 2: is a I think this is a pretty good spot.

905
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: This is like the trifecta of spots for the Falcons.

906
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: They lost last year. They lost thirty nothing, but I

907
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: mean they outgained the Panthers by one hundred yards. It

908
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: was kind of misleading. It just kind of it just

909
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 2: was one of those games where everything went against them.

910
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: Pennix was so inaccurate. They missed a couple of field goals,

911
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: there was two defensive touch like it was a mess.

912
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: But just to these these spots. An underdog off of

913
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 2: a shutout loss forty six, twenty nine and three against

914
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: the spread over the past twenty five years, sixty one

915
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: percent dogs off of a thirty plus point loss one fifteen,

916
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: seventy six and eight against the spread, sixty percent against

917
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: the spread. That applies to the Bengals, Saints and Falcons

918
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: this week. What is the theme right there? I just

919
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: told you you want to bet the Falcons against the Commanders,

920
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: the Saints against the Bills, the Bengals against the Broncos.

921
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: Do you want to bet any of those teams? No, No,

922
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons why these team Usually you're

923
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 2: gonna get these are professionals. You're gonna get their best

924
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: stepf for the next week. But you a lot of

925
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: times the line is going to be a bit inflated

926
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: like this. This Bill's Bills Saints line would have been

927
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 2: fourteen before last week. And the thing is, the Saints

928
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: didn't even play that bad on it down down basis.

929
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: They gave up like twenty eight points on special teams.

930
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: It was insane, Like they've got a punt block for

931
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 2: a touchdown, they got a punt an eating or punt

932
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 2: return that it was a disaster on special team.

933
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: So fifteen plus point spread in not even in October,

934
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: pretty large.

935
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I get seventeen year, I'm definitely on it.

936
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: I still my bet sixteen and a half. Like, here's

937
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: the thing, the Saints the Bills are just gonna run

938
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: it here, and they're probably not gonna you don't run

939
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: Allen in a game like this, so like you're they're

940
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: gonna get a lead. And by the way, they were

941
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 2: just favored by eleven and a half against the disaster

942
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: of the Dolphins, and they were. The Dolphins are in

943
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: that game until the very end and the Bills didn't cover.

944
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 2: But the Saints are like sixteenth and success rate in

945
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 2: non garbage time thirteenth passing success rate like Rattler has

946
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: been okay.

947
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: They have good offensive pieces.

948
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're gonna and the Saints have a top

949
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: ten run defense so far, so like their runde's been

950
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: pretty good. So what does that mean is like if

951
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: the Bills get up big, they're just gonna sit on

952
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: this and the Saints run. He's been good, Like they

953
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: can get some stops and the Bills don't care and

954
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 2: then they can get in the back door. They also

955
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: could just hang around here. So I think they're gonna

956
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: get a couple offensive line back now. Situationally like it's

957
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: good off at thirty point loss, but they're coming across

958
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: the country bills of extra rests or second straight road game.

959
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: That's not ideal. And we'll see if Oliver Milano play

960
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: for Buffalo. But that that's just too I that's another

961
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: one like the Bengals Broncos Bengals, you wouldn't be getting

962
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: over seven here if they didn't lose by forty, but

963
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 2: a lot of that they did five turnovers, like the

964
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: ball in the ground gross, like Isaiah Rodgers had like

965
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: the greatest game in NFL history from a cornerback, and

966
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: then everything just went downhill. And then you're playing against

967
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: floor as was bringing the house, and so you know,

968
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 2: this is still bo Nick's langover touchdown. And I did

969
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: play the Bengals plus seven and a half. But historically

970
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: playing those teams off thirty plus point losses. When you

971
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: think about it, who wants to bet those teams has

972
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: and you're getting them now over key numbers has generally

973
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: been a recipe for success.

974
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: Two more interesting games. I saw Sirianni say, obviously the

975
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 1: Bucks have kind of had their number. They're leaving early,

976
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: which I don't know the exact flight. I've actually made

977
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: it before, but it's not that far. You wouldn't typically

978
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: go two days, you know, Friday, if you're playing the

979
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: Bucks from Philly. So it's I don't want to say

980
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 1: it's in their head, but it's something that I'm sure

981
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: they've been talking about for a while. You know, the Bucks,

982
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: you got Mike Evans is out right but Godwin and

983
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: Worfs could return, right. I think they you know, I

984
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: know the GM a little bit. I think worse. They've

985
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: been really slow playing it. They feel pretty good about them.

986
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 1: They just didn't want to rush him back. Smart move.

987
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: I mean it's too important. But I don't know. I mean,

988
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: I the Bucks have pulled some games obviously out of there.

989
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: You know what I think, first time in NFL history,

990
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: three straight comebacks, three straight weeks to open the season

991
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: or something.

992
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 2: Six total points.

993
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, uh but it's not like the Eagles seven

994
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: pass Yeah. So I don't know. I mean, I I

995
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: just think, do you if you get over a field goal?

996
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: You gotta take Tampa at home in this situation because

997
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: or is Kevin Patola just gonna start throwing to I

998
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: don't know, A J. Brown all the time. Might might

999
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: be a good idea if they open up the offense.

1000
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: I like the Eagles a little bit more. But I

1001
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, A J. Brown even said after

1002
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: the game, He's like, I don't know why we're so conservative.

1003
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: Just throw the ball, get the ball to our playmakers

1004
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: in space. Like what he I mean, he did it

1005
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: in a nice way. He was good about it. And

1006
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't know he one hundred percent was correct, but

1007
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: he basically said, what the fuck have we been doing?

1008
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: Let him throw the ball outside the numbers.

1009
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's the big wildcard here because you can't

1010
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 2: run on Tampa. Tampa's run defense is elite. They're number

1011
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: one in the NFL so far this season. So and

1012
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: the Eagles do miss Becton, Like, their offensive line isn't

1013
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: the same in the interior, which is why Barkley hasn't

1014
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 2: been able to get going. And the offense has been predictable.

1015
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 2: So if they come out here and just try to

1016
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: run it like the Bucks are gonna be in the game.

1017
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: But if they come out and throw it, no aggress

1018
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: So I don't know on that front in order, And yeah,

1019
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: they're they're trying to go down there and acclimate to

1020
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 2: the weather of the humidity and humidity. So but Tampa

1021
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: you need you need Wors I think, and probably Godwin

1022
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: to play. Now. Goog has been really good, but he

1023
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: also doesn't get the attention, like as much attention because

1024
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: you have Evans on the field. So like now if

1025
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: it's just him out there, it's definitely gonna be tougher

1026
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: because the Eagles have a problem at their second corner spot.

1027
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: So but so like you want like two good receivers

1028
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 2: out there, Baker still finds a way. But worst is

1029
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 2: huge this week because this is not the defensive line.

1030
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 2: If they went the Jets don't have a great defensive

1031
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 2: line and they were missing one of their best pass

1032
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 2: rushers last week, the Bucks could not block them. Now

1033
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: you might say, okay, well they put up points. I

1034
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: can't There's there comes a point in time where if

1035
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: you're a ref, you just you can't call. You can't

1036
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 2: call thirty penalties, like you just can't keep calling like

1037
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 2: I imagine, I don't know they'ver been ref I they

1038
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 2: could have called a hold on every play. I think

1039
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 2: that Bucks had eight penalties in the first quarter. It

1040
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: was insane. They were every play was a hold.

1041
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: So you think Roger calls a halftime like, hey, guys,

1042
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: is a TV product. We got a but.

1043
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: Even as a ref, like you're you're in Tampa, so

1044
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 2: you go the human nature, You're like, I can't keep

1045
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: doing this. So but the so now that you're going

1046
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 2: Eagle's defense line isn't as good as last year, but

1047
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: it's really good. It's a lot better than the Jets.

1048
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 2: So if you don't have Worse, get Decky, you're right

1049
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 2: on IR, you're right guard, mak is on IR. If

1050
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: you don't have Worse, your center is still at left tackle.

1051
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: It's an absolute circus. But if you get Worf's back,

1052
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 2: you have one of the best left tackles in the NFL.

1053
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 2: On Baker's blunts. You get Barton back at center, and

1054
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: like it's not as bad, it's still not ideal. But

1055
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 2: if you don't have Worst, and basically it's like five

1056
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: guys that are new with their positions and like the

1057
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 2: guy you'd have left guard has even he's been even

1058
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: been out like so it is a disaster. So worst

1059
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 2: coming back in Barton being able to go to center,

1060
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 2: and then Godwin is huge because of Evans being out.

1061
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: So without knowing that, without knowing the Eagles game plan,

1062
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 2: these two teams have owned me this year. I had

1063
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 2: the Rams last week disaster. I had the Falcons against

1064
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: the Bucks, the Texans against the Bucks. Luckily I have

1065
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: the Jets and they almost screwed me again. But h so,

1066
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,479
Speaker 2: I haven't had a good read on these teams, although

1067
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 2: I've been really unlucky. But these two teams are the

1068
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: luck teams. I don't know. If WARF's is back, I

1069
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,959
Speaker 2: would take over three, but I don't have a good feel.

1070
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: I am curious to see. I told you this last week.

1071
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 2: I the NFL is gonna They came out, they said,

1072
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna officiate the toush Bush closer. It's gonna cost

1073
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: the Eagles four points. Well, they went off sides the

1074
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 2: first one and they didn't call it. The whole world

1075
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: saw it, and they end up calling it on the Saints.

1076
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 2: The poor old Saints gotta fall start a toushbush. I

1077
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: couldn't believe they didn't call that. It led to four points.

1078
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: I would even have had to pull my hair out

1079
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 2: because of that misfield goal. If that didn't happen, it

1080
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: would have been a field goal attep for the Eagles.

1081
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 2: Couldn't believe they didn't call that. It was like the

1082
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: most obvious false star. But an interesting thing here with

1083
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: this touch. But are number one? Are they gonna call it?

1084
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 2: Fall start? Could like take four points off the board,

1085
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 2: kill a drive and the Bucks have vitavea and there

1086
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna activate. Get Desmond Watson from Florida

1087
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: who weighs like four hundred and they I think they

1088
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: they drafted him or signed him just for the to

1089
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: play the Eagles this year.

1090
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: That is sweet. I didn't honestly, I didn't even think

1091
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: about it when I saw the headline that they had

1092
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: they had re signed him to their practice squad? Is

1093
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: that what they did this week? Was he not even yeah?

1094
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: Got you?

1095
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 2: So I assume they're gonna bring him up.

1096
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: He's that is sick in the middle. So the tush

1097
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 1: push stopper.

1098
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's basically why you got drafted or why

1099
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 2: he got signed. I don't think he was drafted, but

1100
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: that's his that's his role. So like this is a

1101
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 2: huge game for him. He gets a stop on the

1102
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: toush push.

1103
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: He just goes team to team. Whoever's they just sign him.

1104
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 2: Uh, that would be amazing, So that that'll be fun

1105
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: to watch in the game. But I don't have a

1106
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: strong feel that.

1107
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: Injuries you've had, you've had good stats over the years

1108
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: on the interim coach, that that interim boost. What about

1109
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: the rookie quarterback coming in the first round or when

1110
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: a guy gets bence like Russell Wilson. I'm taking the

1111
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: Giants this week plus six. You know the Chargers, they'd

1112
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: go thirteen and four. You lose basically one game a month.

1113
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: Right now, you would say they're gonna lose this game.

1114
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: But they've just huge start to their season. You beat

1115
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: every team in your division. I can imagine that was

1116
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: a huge point emphasis all off season. We start fast.

1117
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: This year, we take the we have a huge lead,

1118
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 1: we get a little buffer like this is a long

1119
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: road trip. I mean, this is the type like you

1120
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: go two days early because it's a six hour flight

1121
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: from Los Angeles. Listen. I actually think the weird part

1122
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: about the Giants they have been shitty now for beside

1123
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: the nine and eight season for a long time. They

1124
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: do feel like they got some players, I mean burns

1125
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: like God, Cavon Thibodeaut looks the best season I think

1126
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: he's ever looked At Duel Carter, I mean, there is

1127
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: no way do you think there's a GM in the league.

1128
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: If you're like, hey, you get the opportunity to draft

1129
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter Abdul Carter. What do you think the ratio

1130
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: would be for Abdul Carter? Thirty two to zero? Yeah, apparently,

1131
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: but they might change their two Now I'm not anti

1132
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter, but at duel Carter looks like he got

1133
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: a chance to be like Michael Barton's two point oh

1134
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 1: as a freak. Adam standing up lilast week.

1135
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 2: I like they just stuck them in a linebacker and he.

1136
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: Was good scataboo like that style wouldn't have worked maybe

1137
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: thirty years ago. But these guys are smaller now. They're smaller,

1138
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 1: faster guys. So he's running over the safeties like they

1139
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: don't look like safeties from when I was a kid

1140
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: and you were a kid like Tim McDonald. Those guys

1141
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 1: don't exist. Todd Bowles was to save Todd Bowles is big.

1142
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: All the safeties now weigh like two hundred pounds or

1143
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: fast cover guys. So Molie Neighbor's a freak. I think

1144
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,479
Speaker 1: eventually the Giants aren't. They're not like some two win team.

1145
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: And I like the Giants in this spot, and I

1146
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: still like, I'm not off the Chargers, but this is

1147
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: your classic. I can see the Charges coming out flat

1148
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: a little bit and the Giants getting a huge boost. Now,

1149
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, you never know this. Defensively, uh, not the easiest.

1150
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 2: Matchup sideways, but with the rookie, but it's gotta be

1151
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 2: better than what Wilson looked like last week. The Giants

1152
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: should have covered that game. I had him plus six

1153
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: and a half. Sadly, they lost their kicker before the game,

1154
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 2: which cost him like nine points. Because they could kick

1155
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 2: field goals, they couldn't kick extra points. They had to

1156
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 2: go for it and they didn't get fourth downs at

1157
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 2: the end. They even would have kicked another field goal

1158
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 2: instead of throwing it into the tunnel four times. But

1159
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: Mahomes had like four or five turner where he plays.

1160
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 2: He didn't turn it over at all like he had

1161
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: a couple. They were really unlucky. Their defense was dominant

1162
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 2: in that game, and their defense is better even the

1163
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 2: back end of their defense. They added Holland I like Nubin.

1164
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 2: They improved their secondary got flowed in there instead of Banks,

1165
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: who's been playing well. And yeah, the how the Giants

1166
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 2: can win this game. Twofold and first time quarterbacks have

1167
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 2: had success against the spread. It's not overwhelming, but generally

1168
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: been decent bets. That you have Dart who the Chargers

1169
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 2: don't really know what to expect from the offense, so

1170
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 2: you have that uncertainty working for you.

1171
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: Like, well, he's been bringing him in like plays like

1172
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: he would run for Michael Vick or Lamar Jackson.

1173
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's probably gonna be like more zone read.

1174
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: And the other thing is Andrew Thomas should play a

1175
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: full like he's mad he didn't play in the second half.

1176
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 2: They hadn't on a snap count. He should be well,

1177
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: he only played the whole He played the whole first half,

1178
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: then the second half they brought in the back in

1179
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 2: their backup so bad and the whole offensive line falls apart.

1180
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 2: But he should be back. And he's one of the

1181
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 2: best left tackles when healthy. He looked healthy last week.

1182
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: That'll help, but they'll probably run a lot of read

1183
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: option stuff. I liked art so And the other thing

1184
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 2: is the Chargers offensive line is an issue right now.

1185
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 2: Like we knew that bald is a stud. He moved

1186
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: the left tackle, but last week they lost Beckton who's

1187
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: in his concussion, so I don't think he'll play. And

1188
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 2: after they lost Becton it and Pipkins went out too.

1189
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 2: The right tackle was really bad, but he gave up

1190
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 2: like nine pressures. Last week. They brought in this kid, Sallyar,

1191
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 2: who was getting tossed like a rag doll and Herbert

1192
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 2: had no time whatsoever. The Giants are one of the

1193
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: best defensive, best pass rushes in the NFL, so Herbert

1194
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 2: could be under fire here. Maybe the charges go back

1195
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 2: to just leaning on the run. The Giants run d

1196
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 2: isn't great, but dexter lawrence against you know, Sally or whoever,

1197
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: or and then whoever they want to put on the

1198
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: left side to rush Herbert. It the Charters offense could

1199
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: look a little subdued. Here go this is there's like

1200
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: three teams in the NFL like that. The Giants are

1201
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 2: the Giant. It's like the Giants, the Broncos, the Browns,

1202
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 2: the Vikings because of scheme where like they're their front

1203
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 2: can just ruin a game, and they almost did against

1204
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Like they were just so so so close

1205
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,919
Speaker 2: to a couple of game changing turnovers that could happen

1206
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 2: this week.

1207
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: Packers probably now yeah.

1208
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: Packers, so the yeah, I'll be on the Giants as well.

1209
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: Okay, any thoughts on just the all time great Monday

1210
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: night football game in the Miami Dolphins against the New

1211
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: York Jets.

1212
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 2: Uh over, If anything that the Dolphins defense can't be fixed,

1213
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: Their secondary is bad the Jets defense is bad, Like

1214
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 2: you're telling me you gave up. You lost that game

1215
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 2: last week. The Bucks couldn't block like dead five backup

1216
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: offensive linemen and Evans gets hurt. I mean, we saw

1217
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 2: the Steelers put up forty like the Jets defense is broken,

1218
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 2: and they had more injuries. They lost Quinn Williams. Two

1219
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 2: zero to three teams. Historically, when there's winless teams, it's

1220
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 2: like sixty four percent against the spread that take the

1221
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: dog in those spots. It's like a ridiculous clip that

1222
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: they hit at. But under forty five, I think this

1223
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 2: game can get a little loose, and both defenses are bad.

1224
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 2: Two oh and three teams. The Dolphins offense has woken

1225
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 2: up a bit the past two weeks, so yeah, I

1226
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: would look over there, but oh my god, we got

1227
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 2: Browning Knicks whoever. The Jets are gonna have a quarterback

1228
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 2: and Tua.

1229
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm going Jets money line. I don't mind it going

1230
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: Jets money line that this is. I mean, Roger Rodger's

1231
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: got to be disappointed with the schedule maker in this situation.

1232
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: He can't be happy bad. But this is also why

1233
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: they manipulating cooking the books with these double headers that

1234
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: he give you two crabby games, but still two games?

1235
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: What else are you gonna watch?

1236
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 2: And one of them close?

1237
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, Stuckey, Uh thanks for coming on early with

1238
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: us and appreciate your time and enjoy I mean this

1239
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: is this is a fantastic Saturday. Is gonna be got

1240
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: a chance to be pretty special.

1241
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Saturday, amazing, amazing slate. If you have any plans,

1242
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 2: get out of them and uh yeah, the whole week,

1243
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: it's gonna be great. You even mentioned TCU Arizona State.

1244
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 2: That's a huge one of the Big twelve. For like,

1245
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: who's going to potentially get to play Texas Tech. It

1246
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 2: looks like Josh Huger might be the best quarterback in

1247
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: the country. Check him out if you haven't seen him.

1248
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: You like TCU plus two and a half. It's pretty hot.

1249
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: It's pretty hot here. I need is hot in Texas too.

1250
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 2: I want to get a three. My only concern I

1251
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 2: gotta look into it so he can follow follow along

1252
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 2: in the Action Network AP to see if I play it,

1253
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: so it's free. Uh hoover on the last play the game,

1254
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 2: I don't know why he was in the game or

1255
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 2: why they were running a play but he got he

1256
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 2: like got hobbled, and it didn't look good. I don't

1257
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: know what I got to look into that, but uh yeah,

1258
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 2: if I can get three even at two and a half,

1259
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 2: I think Hoover legit might be QB one. Uh in

1260
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 2: this class. He's that good.

1261
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: Well keep an eye on that one. Excited Okay, Stucky,

1262
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: talk to you soon.

1263
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm going

1264
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: The volume