WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: New Additions 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:06.240 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:07.840 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:13.079 Cowboys. 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:18.440 This He's Talking Cowboys, screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:19.720 World Tours at. 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:22.080 The Star In Street. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:32.960 Patent Touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:35.360 and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:41.879 It's a post draft edition of Talking Cowboys presented by 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:46.400 Black Rifle Coffee Company, the official coffee of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:51.560 Welcome into the SWBC studios, where there is some excitement, 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:57.600 there is some frustration. There is some trash talk happening 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.240 always though, but we'll get to that in the third segment. Okay, 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.760 we're gonna talk about hockey later. Okay, because there. 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:05.960 Is anything about hockey. 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:10.080 There's an in that house. Bet I'm talking about hockey. Yeah, 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:12.960 in the third segment. We're gonna talk about it later. So, 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.280 but we do have a draft class to address. We 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.080 have undrafted free agents that are now part of this 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:23.080 Cowboys to lots of new additions to talk about over 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:23.920 the last week. 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:27.520 So that about the music. Can they stand the right? Yeah, 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:29.399 we're gonna find out. 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:30.760 Can they stand? 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:31.600 We're gonna find out. 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.480 Here's the thing I think there were a lot of 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:38.520 really good additions through the NFL draft, but I think 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:42.400 there might be a better edition happening on the show today. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:44.080 Facts so. 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.559 That that watch and listen to us. You know, there's 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.960 always been a fourth chair. At one point it was 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:55.360 Rob Phillip Island and we love Rob Philip. We will 0:01:55.360 --> 0:02:00.240 always love Rob Phillips. We're still in a group message 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:03.680 w r D late late night. 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:06.240 It was a very late night, okay, very late right 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:07.800 early morning, early morning. 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.880 Yeah, So we love Rob. Rob will always be a 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.079 part of the show. He knows that, and I can't 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.240 wait to see him this weekend. By the way, that'll 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:17.760 be a lot of fun. But here's the thing, I 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.679 still have a Christmas present. There has been there has 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.760 been an empty chair for a couple of months now. 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.359 Well that chair is no longer empty today what is 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:30.640 today to Tuesday or Wednesday? 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:34.519 Wednesday May third, We welcome for the first time ever 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:39.600 to the Talking Cowboys group, the newest Dallas Cowboys dot 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.760 com writer Nick Harris. Hey, w Talking Cowboys. 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.359 Let's go. We got like a like a w W. 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:55.720 Let's go. Yeah, you gotta kick it off, let's go. 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.280 Let's go. Okay with the first overall pig. 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:03.760 So I am one very excited about this because I 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.200 think we have a really fun group. But Nick just 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:08.720 brings a whole nother element to this that's going to 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.880 be next level kind of outline where you came from, 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:16.520 how you got to the Cowboys, and what's on the 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.119 table for you over the next few months. 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:18.440 Yeah. 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:20.360 Absolutely, I come from the recruiting world. 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.400 So if y'all are big college football recruiting fans, I 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:24.520 was working at twenty four to seven Sports and Rivals 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.200 for the last four years, the last year and a 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:30.560 half working as the national analyst for Texas, Mississippi, Arkansas, Oklahoma, 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:31.440 and Louisiana. 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:35.040 So like SEC Country, Big twelve Country, a little bit of. 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.200 Everything, definitely, and scouting kids from the time they're fourteen 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.560 until they get to that college level and then transfer 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.160 portal stuff as well, so you know, juggling all that 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.280 and then you know, this opportunity with the Cowboys came 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:47.760 up and couldn't pass down an opportunity to take up 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.560 this seat, guys, So the real reason is to be. 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:50.960 On the show. 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.080 That was Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, it was to take 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.840 this chair water exactly. 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:57.400 The thing is, we are ready to have the best 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.800 podcast on the Cowboys platform. Yes, and like and now 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:02.640 with the addition to you, it's just just unfair at 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:05.240 this point. Is Yeah, it's like two, it's like four 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.200 Usain Bolts, Like you just don't stand a chance. 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:09.560 It's the not one, not two. 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.560 Not three, just just full. 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:14.840 Katie on the Warriors. 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:16.440 Yeah, that's exactly what this is. 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:18.720 I respect that. I appreciate that. 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:28.240 Oh, it's the Infinity, the final one, the smash smash sosh. 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.479 Yeah, that one. And of course we've got Beamer in 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.120 the back. We count him as a part of this show. 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:34.320 He only belongs to this show. 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:35.240 He doesn't belong. 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.640 So Nick, thanks so much. I mean, this is gonna 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.719 be fun. I can't wait to have you a part 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:45.880 of the crew throughout talking Cowboys. But let's dive into 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:49.080 this draft class, shall we. Because Cowboys they go out 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:53.040 and they do good things. Not exactly what Isaiah had 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:53.360 in mind. 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:53.960 Last week. 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:58.240 You said that if they didn't address the offensive line, they. 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:00.120 Did what I what I expected him to do and 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.480 what we talked about, just not in necessarily the order 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:03.719 in which I wanted it to happen. 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:05.480 Okay, what was the order you wanted it to happen. 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.800 Well, I wanted offensive guard first, not a swing person, 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.120 not to somebody who can move over. I wanted a big, 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:13.720 nasty guy who that's all he does is play guard. 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:14.839 That was my first one. 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:16.560 My second one was saying that we need to go 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:18.200 out there and get a solid tight end, and then 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.239 we needed to make sure that we address the defensive 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.200 line and make sure we get a run stopper. And 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:24.680 we talked about all the other guys, adding a guy 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:27.680 in the secondary, adding a receiver, like they did all 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:28.320 these things. 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:30.920 It just didn't happen in the order that I wanted 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:31.520 it to happen. 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.400 So kudos. I'm sure we'll get the grades and all 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.680 that stuff. Super kudos to the front office. They have 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:40.760 had a dog on MVP off season. They have had 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:44.080 an unbelievable off season, not only in the free agency market, 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.320 not only in trades, but also you talk about the draft, 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:48.120 and now we talk about the post draft and the 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:49.839 acquisitions that they had there as well. 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:51.200 They're absolutely killing it. 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:55.120 You're starting to see the culture that word again, right, 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.240 You're starting to see that really start the transition and 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.800 start to really come to fruition with this organization and 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:03.040 it's awesome because they're not being tentative. They're not being relaxed, 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.160 they're not sitting back, they're not waiting for the crumbs 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:08.560 to fall through. Okay, they are being They're being diligent 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.560 and being aggressive in terms of what they want this 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:11.279 roster to look like. 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:15.040 And you know what, I love the word that you chose, culture, culture, culture. 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:15.440 Culture. 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.000 Jerry Jones admitted it himself when he said that the 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.280 Masi Mossie Smith pick would not have occurred nine to 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.520 ten years ago. Okay, the last time the Cowboys selected 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:28.640 a defensive tackle in the first round was Russell Maryland 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:32.159 one in nineteen ninety one. And for those that may 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:35.120 be too young to understand the greatness of Russell Maryland, 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.600 we're not comparing him to Massi Smith, but we're saying 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.920 this is how highly graded and how much the culture 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.480 has changed under the two diligit Dan. 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:44.839 Quinn as defensive coordinator. 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:49.240 So the Cowboys are valuing positions that in recent history 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.720 they haven't necessarily pre Quinn safety being. 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:53.039 One of them. 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.920 Okay, now knows tackle being one of them. Addition of 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:58.840 Jonathan Hankins at the ahead of the trade deadline, Now 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:03.360 you dropped in Mazzi Smith. This team, particularly this defense, 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:06.880 was already one of the more nightmarish ones last season. 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.200 But now you drop in somebody like Mazzie Smith and 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.640 then you say, okay, well, whether you like the pick 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.560 or not, and we'll get to the grades here shortly. 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:18.160 And I love the pick. I'm floored. But are they 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:19.040 going to address some. 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.440 Of the other positions that they might have needed, because, 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.000 like Isaiah said, because of how they handle free agency, 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.520 they didn't have a ton of needs. They could truly 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.960 go more so to BPA best player available in the draft, 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:33.640 and they arguably did Schoonmaker because of the tight end 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:37.320 run at the top of the second round. Marion overshown. 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.880 The value Onduce Vaughan is just insane. So, I mean, 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.200 you got that explosiveness you added to your offense, you 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.520 add it to your defense. The value equation will talk 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.440 about here shortly, but overall they just keep knocking it 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:49.880 out the park. 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.600 Yeah, to add another layer to the culture element. Talking 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:54.680 to all these guys that are all really excited to 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:56.840 be a part of this franchise, but especially the ones 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:58.840 that came in on those thirty visits, it sounds like 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.320 the thirty visits were almost like I'm gonna tap into 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:04.080 my recruiting here, like official visits. It's what it sounds like, 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:05.880 you know, coming in for two days, you know, the 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:07.680 first day being able to sit down and just really 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.600 learn who these guys are, and then the second day 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.080 you dive into football and you know, kind of see 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:12.360 what your fit is on the team. And you know, 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:13.960 I think that stood out to a lot of these guys, 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:15.840 and you know, who knows down the line when maybe 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:17.120 one of the two of these guys that they didn't 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.600 draft become free agency. Think back to that thirty visit experience, 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:20.800 and you know that becomes a big part of it. 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:22.680 But looking at the class, you know, I'm kind of 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:24.560 with you, Isaiah. I think they addressed a lot of 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.040 points of need, but maybe not in the order I 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.240 would have expected. I would have liked an offensive lineman 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:29.960 in the second or third round. I fully expected it 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:31.160 to happen by the end of day two, and it 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:32.160 didn't happen by day two. 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.880 Austin Richards. I do like his versatility. 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:36.240 I like what they will be able to bring him, 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:38.160 bring him to the table with and maybe you know, 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.080 give some guard flexibility for him. But I guess we'll 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.559 just kind of see whenever that comes around. But what 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.320 it was it in the order that I wanted? Maybe not, 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.600 But I do like that they addressed multiple points of 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.120 need and that they reversed all around the entire class. 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.000 And that's that's the thing is. It goes back to 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.880 what Patrick just said, Dallas addressed a lot of needs 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:58.880 before the draft happened. You go out, you get Stephan 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:02.120 Kilmore that that gives deftit corner. You go out and 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:03.280 you snack Brandon Cooks. 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:04.960 That's a starter at the wide receiver position. 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:10.319 So you weren't you weren't pigeonholed into specific picks along 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:14.240 the way. And I think it's a mixture of BPA 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:16.720 in need because I don't think it was straight BPA 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.400 by any stretch of the imagination, because there were better 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.440 players on the board, higher ranked players on the board 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.720 throughout much of their draft. Maybe not on their board. 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.160 I don't think they window dressed their board, but comparatively 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:32.440 to what we had seen, and they went for specific need. 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.320 But did they go with the best player that filled 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.280 that need? Absolutely? I think Luke Schoomaker is a great 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:42.000 example of that, because they wanted Sam Laporta. They wanted 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.240 Michael Mayer going into day two. They thought one of 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:47.600 those two guys would slip after only Dalton Kincaid went 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:50.720 on day one. So they knew going into day two, 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:52.480 all right, tight end is going to be a big 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.480 possibility here. And they felt like and they brought in 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.120 Tucker Craft. They know what he brought to the table. 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.000 They felt like there was a drop off off from 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:07.840 the Kincaid, Laporta, Mayor Schoonmaker cluster of tight ends to 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.480 the next cluster of tight ends. So they made the pick. 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:14.280 They picked the tight end over a couple other positions there. 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.240 So with that being said, they addressed need. But they 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.560 did it with the best player available at that need 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.040 at that time. And Duce Fawn is another great example 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.800 of that. They had been searching for a running back 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:28.440 all week in long Rosehawan Johnson was a name, Chris 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:31.800 Rodriguez Junior from Kentucky was a name. Then they get 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:33.960 down to this sixth round and they're saying, Okay, we 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.280 didn't get a running back. We didn't find one. Who's 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.400 the best one on the board, And at that point 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:40.520 it was Deuce Vaughn And it just happened to work 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.800 out for a great moment, outstanding. 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:47.839 Moments, draft moments. I've ever seen him. Hard to top it, righteration. 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.360 But the thing is, and for everybody that doesn't know 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:55.400 and hasn't seen Duce Fawn, that dude is a playmaker ballder. 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:57.600 He deserved to be in the sixth round. I had 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.400 a fifth round great on him. So the fact that 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.120 they've got that value and have that moment in the 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.320 sixth round, I think it was one in one, just 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.439 a fantastic pick. So with that being said, Isaiah, and 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.720 you talk about the need and then the best player available, 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.400 do you feel like there was a position that was neglected? 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:15.720 Was it offensive line? Even though they did go get 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:19.360 good value with awesome richards and brought him to the table. 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:21.520 But I can't. 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.200 Do you feel comfortable with the offensive line spot right now? 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:25.440 I don't know. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:27.840 I don't know the reason why I say that is 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.480 because I hesitate to say that they didn't take care 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.520 of business, because we are all sitting here together saying 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:34.720 that they checked every box. 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:36.520 Every box got checked. 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.959 Okay, it may not happened in the order that we wanted, 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:42.480 but who are we to say that the fifth round 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.120 pick isn't going to play like a first round pick. 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.400 Right, We don't know, right, we don't know Deron bl 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.040 exactly right. So perfect is episode the. 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:54.240 Fact that they addressed all their positional needs, needs, not once, 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:58.080 but needs. I'm satisfied. I am, I am satisfied. Now 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.040 you just got to wait and see what happens. You 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.440 gotta wait and see why if you have a first rounder, 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.400 that's if you have the third rounder, right, depending on 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.800 what it is, it doesn't matter. You address your needs. 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:09.560 Now you just hope that these guys show up and 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:10.000 play ball. 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:10.319 Yeah. 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:14.559 I think that the biggest crux of all of our 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:20.240 argument in the contrary would simply be the value equation, 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:23.840 because of the order in which these players went didn't 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.120 necessarily job with the order that we as individuals and 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.480 or as a group and or as Cowboys fans might 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.040 have had them valued on our respective boards. So in 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.280 that capacity, we then have to defer to the recent 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.280 success slash failure rate of this staff, and you got 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.360 to give them grace because they've earned grace. So, for example, 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.400 Mazie Smith, to your point, he checks all the boxes. 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.160 He's not pure BPA, but he's not pure meat. He's neat, 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.400 he's quite literally both of those things, and the same 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:54.640 could be said for Schoolmaker. And they had discussions on 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.079 other running backs a chain, but by the time they 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.360 got on the clock, a chain was already gone. You 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:01.640 lost out on guys. And then here comes Duce Vaughan. 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.200 He's the blinking light, right, so as the Cowboys like 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.520 to refer to a guy like that. So for me, yes, 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:10.280 I had Schoolmaker graded later late three, late day three. 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.840 But the run on tight ends. What everyone needs to 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:16.640 understand in Cowboys Nation. That's listening, and I'm assuming everybody's 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.160 listening because this is the best podcast out there. Say 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:21.880 it again, this is the best podcast out there. Is 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:25.720 that the draft doesn't operate in a vacuum. Okay, you 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.000 have to as much as you want to stay true 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.160 to your board, and you do your best to do so. 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.320 You also have to understand that variables outside of your 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:36.040 control will also dictate what happens next when you're on 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:36.439 the clock. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:37.840 That's a Schoolmaker pick. 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.599 Schoolmaker got pulled forward in my opinion because of the 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.960 run on tight ends, but I still very much like 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.719 Schoolmaker as a player. So the Cowboys still got themselves 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:51.040 a definitive player and somebody who could come in and 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.600 challenge for a starting role against Jake Ferguson and Peyton 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.120 Hendershot and you love to see that happen. But to 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.840 answer your question, I think the only position and I like, 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:03.920 I assume Richards brains because I saw stat only three 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.480 sacks allowed in over one thousand reps. 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.720 And that's a you know, no North Carolina guy. He 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:10.800 knows how to protect the he's playing tackle there too. 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.280 Correct And Nick and I we spoke with Will McLay 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.160 on yesterday in a conference call, and I specifically as McLay, 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.560 is this a Tyler Smith situation where you bring a 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.800 man as tackle but you commit him fully a guard 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.960 in training camp? He was like, no, he's going to, 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.120 you know, get reps at both. So keep keep a 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.440 bit of information. I think wide receiver is still the 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.640 question mark for me. That's still the question mark. There 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.760 is a good, solid, solid ceiling on Jalen Brooks, the 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:41.920 seventh round flyer pig, but we have to keep this 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:45.000 in mind. We're talking about w R four through let's 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.640 say six, Let's say seven. Let's say that carry seven 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.520 because Turpin is a is a returner so you're talking 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.880 about WR for through WR seven. I feel much better 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:56.320 about that being the conversation versus a year ago when 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:59.640 we're trying to figure out, you know, Jaylen Tobert, is 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.320 he going to your wide receiver three? Yeah, right, it's 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.120 a different conversation. So I'm more comfortable with that. But 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:06.560 they're going to try to figure it out that that 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.280 would be the only position. I would say that didn't 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.400 necessarily get addressed completely, but I'd like to see with 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:13.560 Jalen Bruce brings at the table. 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.520 Yeah, and I think that's one of the bigger kids. 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:15.760 Yeah. 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:16.240 Absolutely. 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.640 I think there's a lot of questions around the wide 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.440 receiver depth going deeper into the offseason and ahead of 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.080 training camp, there's gonna be a lot of questions around that. 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:24.560 You know, see me for Hooko, you know, he was 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.360 a guy that looked really good at training camp last year, 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.320 didn't really get to show what he could do last season. 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.920 You got Jalen Tolbert, who you know many are hoping 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:32.960 can take that next step and get and earn that 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.840 wide receiver four role because when injuries happen, as we've 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:37.920 seen in the past, need those guys to step up 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:39.520 and you know, I think that leads right back into 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.520 the offensive line situation when injuries happened, who's gonna step in? 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.720 You know, if Tyron Smith gets hurt again, you know 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.120 who steps in and is able to fill that versatile role. 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.080 You know, you move Tyler out to left tackle or 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.680 and bring in who to fill his spots. 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.040 So I think there is a lot of flexibility. 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.080 And we've we've talked about this a lot and in 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.520 the last few days about how much versatility is in 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.040 the class. You know, with a lot of the draft 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:02.600 picks that they made, you know, Deuce being able to 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:04.560 come out of the backfield lineup in the slot, Austin 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.040 Richards having that gar tackle flexibility. We could go on 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.960 and on, but I think that versatility allows them to 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.480 be a little bit more flexible whenever those injuries do happen, 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:13.840 because that's what's plagued them in the past. 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.120 That's a great point because you think about what's happened 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.320 toward the back half of the schedule, and this happened 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:22.440 under Kellen Moore, and of course Kelli Moore is now 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:27.040 in Los Angeles. But things get stagnant. We have talked 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.240 about it on this show. The Big bag that Kellen 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.640 Moore brought. You reach in, you try and pull out 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.040 that one last toy, that one last item out of 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.200 the bag, and there's nothing in there. You're just getting 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:42.880 nothing but velvet down there. So so when that happens, 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.520 We've talked about this before. It's a debate between play 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.520 calling and a debate between skill sets. Did they go 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.280 out and they add that skill set nick that allows 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.200 them to go deeper into their bag from a play 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.600 calling standpoint, by adding guys like a Douce Vaughan and 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:01.520 Luke Schoonmaker, who can you can run behind Luke's Schoomaker. 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:05.400 You can't run behind Jake Ferguson and Peyton Hendershot as blockers, 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:06.800 but Schoonmaker can lead the way. 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.040 Yeah, it opens up your offense in a completely different way. 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.080 And I whenever I had heard that the Cowboys really 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:13.440 wanted to go get a tight end that can help 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.680 them in the run blocking game, I was like, Oh, okay, yeah, 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:18.320 I like this different. Yeah, exactly, especially with the way 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.720 Tony Pollard and Duce Vaughan can run between the tackles. 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:23.199 I mean, we've seen Will McLay talked about it. You know, 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.640 Duce Vaughn taking off for a seventy eight yard touchdown 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.800 right between the tackles against Alabama. So you know him 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:30.919 being able to do that, you know in Dallas, you know, 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.680 I'm sure that's that's a big circle around their pick. 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:34.760 It's exciting. 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:39.359 Let me let me ask you this hypothetically speaking, here's 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:42.240 a here's an offensive scheme, dual running back sit with 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.800 duce Von and Tony Pollard in the same set. You 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.000 have a two tight end, one of those tight ends, 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:53.320 a schoonmaker who can block and catch Jake Ferguson, Ceedee Lamb, 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:55.119 and then you got Brandon Cooks. 0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:00.800 You're we got too many on the field, right. I 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:02.280 hope everybody check. 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:06.240 It as to what is happening, right Kellen Moore kell 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:08.720 with a different type of twelve. 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:13.440 Nobody saw, there's no replay, willn't take a play. People 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.879 need to pay attention to what's happening with this, With 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:20.440