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Speaker 2: Welcome into the SWBC studios, where there is some excitement,
Speaker 2: there is some frustration. There is some trash talk happening
Speaker 2: always though, but we'll get to that in the third segment. Okay,
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about hockey later. Okay, because there.
Speaker 4: Is anything about hockey.
Speaker 2: There's an in that house. Bet I'm talking about hockey. Yeah,
Speaker 2: in the third segment. We're gonna talk about it later. So,
Speaker 2: but we do have a draft class to address. We
Speaker 2: have undrafted free agents that are now part of this
Speaker 2: Cowboys to lots of new additions to talk about over
Speaker 2: the last week.
Speaker 4: So that about the music. Can they stand the right? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: Here's the thing I think there were a lot of
Speaker 2: really good additions through the NFL draft, but I think
Speaker 2: there might be a better edition happening on the show today.
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Speaker 6: Wednesday May third, We welcome for the first time ever
Speaker 6: to the Talking Cowboys group, the newest Dallas Cowboys dot
Speaker 6: com writer Nick Harris. Hey, w Talking Cowboys.
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Speaker 2: So I am one very excited about this because I
Speaker 2: think we have a really fun group. But Nick just
Speaker 2: brings a whole nother element to this that's going to
Speaker 2: be next level kind of outline where you came from,
Speaker 2: how you got to the Cowboys, and what's on the
Speaker 2: table for you over the next few months.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, I come from the recruiting world.
Speaker 8: So if y'all are big college football recruiting fans, I
Speaker 8: was working at twenty four to seven Sports and Rivals
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Speaker 8: half working as the national analyst for Texas, Mississippi, Arkansas, Oklahoma,
Speaker 8: and Louisiana.
Speaker 2: So like SEC Country, Big twelve Country, a little bit of.
Speaker 8: Everything, definitely, and scouting kids from the time they're fourteen
Speaker 8: until they get to that college level and then transfer
Speaker 8: portal stuff as well, so you know, juggling all that
Speaker 8: and then you know, this opportunity with the Cowboys came
Speaker 8: up and couldn't pass down an opportunity to take up
Speaker 8: this seat, guys, So the real reason is to be.
Speaker 7: On the show.
Speaker 8: That was Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, it was to take
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Speaker 5: The thing is, we are ready to have the best
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Speaker 5: with the addition to you, it's just just unfair at
Speaker 5: this point. Is Yeah, it's like two, it's like four
Speaker 5: Usain Bolts, Like you just don't stand a chance.
Speaker 2: It's the not one, not two.
Speaker 4: Not three, just just full.
Speaker 7: Katie on the Warriors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what this is.
Speaker 7: I respect that. I appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's the Infinity, the final one, the smash smash sosh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one. And of course we've got Beamer in
Speaker 2: the back. We count him as a part of this show.
Speaker 2: He only belongs to this show.
Speaker 4: He doesn't belong.
Speaker 2: So Nick, thanks so much. I mean, this is gonna
Speaker 2: be fun. I can't wait to have you a part
Speaker 2: of the crew throughout talking Cowboys. But let's dive into
Speaker 2: this draft class, shall we. Because Cowboys they go out
Speaker 2: and they do good things. Not exactly what Isaiah had
Speaker 2: in mind.
Speaker 4: Last week.
Speaker 2: You said that if they didn't address the offensive line, they.
Speaker 5: Did what I what I expected him to do and
Speaker 5: what we talked about, just not in necessarily the order
Speaker 5: in which I wanted it to happen.
Speaker 2: Okay, what was the order you wanted it to happen.
Speaker 5: Well, I wanted offensive guard first, not a swing person,
Speaker 5: not to somebody who can move over. I wanted a big,
Speaker 5: nasty guy who that's all he does is play guard.
Speaker 4: That was my first one.
Speaker 5: My second one was saying that we need to go
Speaker 5: out there and get a solid tight end, and then
Speaker 5: we needed to make sure that we address the defensive
Speaker 5: line and make sure we get a run stopper. And
Speaker 5: we talked about all the other guys, adding a guy
Speaker 5: in the secondary, adding a receiver, like they did all
Speaker 5: these things.
Speaker 4: It just didn't happen in the order that I wanted
Speaker 4: it to happen.
Speaker 5: So kudos. I'm sure we'll get the grades and all
Speaker 5: that stuff. Super kudos to the front office. They have
Speaker 5: had a dog on MVP off season. They have had
Speaker 5: an unbelievable off season, not only in the free agency market,
Speaker 5: not only in trades, but also you talk about the draft,
Speaker 5: and now we talk about the post draft and the
Speaker 5: acquisitions that they had there as well.
Speaker 4: They're absolutely killing it.
Speaker 5: You're starting to see the culture that word again, right,
Speaker 5: You're starting to see that really start the transition and
Speaker 5: start to really come to fruition with this organization and
Speaker 5: it's awesome because they're not being tentative. They're not being relaxed,
Speaker 5: they're not sitting back, they're not waiting for the crumbs
Speaker 5: to fall through. Okay, they are being They're being diligent
Speaker 5: and being aggressive in terms of what they want this
Speaker 5: roster to look like.
Speaker 9: And you know what, I love the word that you chose, culture, culture, culture.
Speaker 4: Culture.
Speaker 9: Jerry Jones admitted it himself when he said that the
Speaker 9: Masi Mossie Smith pick would not have occurred nine to
Speaker 9: ten years ago. Okay, the last time the Cowboys selected
Speaker 9: a defensive tackle in the first round was Russell Maryland
Speaker 9: one in nineteen ninety one. And for those that may
Speaker 9: be too young to understand the greatness of Russell Maryland,
Speaker 9: we're not comparing him to Massi Smith, but we're saying
Speaker 9: this is how highly graded and how much the culture
Speaker 9: has changed under the two diligit Dan.
Speaker 4: Quinn as defensive coordinator.
Speaker 9: So the Cowboys are valuing positions that in recent history
Speaker 9: they haven't necessarily pre Quinn safety being.
Speaker 4: One of them.
Speaker 9: Okay, now knows tackle being one of them. Addition of
Speaker 9: Jonathan Hankins at the ahead of the trade deadline, Now
Speaker 9: you dropped in Mazzi Smith. This team, particularly this defense,
Speaker 9: was already one of the more nightmarish ones last season.
Speaker 9: But now you drop in somebody like Mazzie Smith and
Speaker 9: then you say, okay, well, whether you like the pick
Speaker 9: or not, and we'll get to the grades here shortly.
Speaker 4: And I love the pick. I'm floored. But are they
Speaker 4: going to address some.
Speaker 9: Of the other positions that they might have needed, because,
Speaker 9: like Isaiah said, because of how they handle free agency,
Speaker 9: they didn't have a ton of needs. They could truly
Speaker 9: go more so to BPA best player available in the draft,
Speaker 9: and they arguably did Schoonmaker because of the tight end
Speaker 9: run at the top of the second round. Marion overshown.
Speaker 9: The value Onduce Vaughan is just insane. So, I mean,
Speaker 9: you got that explosiveness you added to your offense, you
Speaker 9: add it to your defense. The value equation will talk
Speaker 9: about here shortly, but overall they just keep knocking it
Speaker 9: out the park.
Speaker 8: Yeah, to add another layer to the culture element. Talking
Speaker 8: to all these guys that are all really excited to
Speaker 8: be a part of this franchise, but especially the ones
Speaker 8: that came in on those thirty visits, it sounds like
Speaker 8: the thirty visits were almost like I'm gonna tap into
Speaker 8: my recruiting here, like official visits. It's what it sounds like,
Speaker 8: you know, coming in for two days, you know, the
Speaker 8: first day being able to sit down and just really
Speaker 8: learn who these guys are, and then the second day
Speaker 8: you dive into football and you know, kind of see
Speaker 8: what your fit is on the team. And you know,
Speaker 8: I think that stood out to a lot of these guys,
Speaker 8: and you know, who knows down the line when maybe
Speaker 8: one of the two of these guys that they didn't
Speaker 8: draft become free agency. Think back to that thirty visit experience,
Speaker 8: and you know that becomes a big part of it.
Speaker 8: But looking at the class, you know, I'm kind of
Speaker 8: with you, Isaiah. I think they addressed a lot of
Speaker 8: points of need, but maybe not in the order I
Speaker 8: would have expected. I would have liked an offensive lineman
Speaker 8: in the second or third round. I fully expected it
Speaker 8: to happen by the end of day two, and it
Speaker 8: didn't happen by day two.
Speaker 7: Austin Richards. I do like his versatility.
Speaker 8: I like what they will be able to bring him,
Speaker 8: bring him to the table with and maybe you know,
Speaker 8: give some guard flexibility for him. But I guess we'll
Speaker 8: just kind of see whenever that comes around. But what
Speaker 8: it was it in the order that I wanted? Maybe not,
Speaker 8: But I do like that they addressed multiple points of
Speaker 8: need and that they reversed all around the entire class.
Speaker 2: And that's that's the thing is. It goes back to
Speaker 2: what Patrick just said, Dallas addressed a lot of needs
Speaker 2: before the draft happened. You go out, you get Stephan
Speaker 2: Kilmore that that gives deftit corner. You go out and
Speaker 2: you snack Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 4: That's a starter at the wide receiver position.
Speaker 2: So you weren't you weren't pigeonholed into specific picks along
Speaker 2: the way. And I think it's a mixture of BPA
Speaker 2: in need because I don't think it was straight BPA
Speaker 2: by any stretch of the imagination, because there were better
Speaker 2: players on the board, higher ranked players on the board
Speaker 2: throughout much of their draft. Maybe not on their board.
Speaker 2: I don't think they window dressed their board, but comparatively
Speaker 2: to what we had seen, and they went for specific need.
Speaker 2: But did they go with the best player that filled
Speaker 2: that need? Absolutely? I think Luke Schoomaker is a great
Speaker 2: example of that, because they wanted Sam Laporta. They wanted
Speaker 2: Michael Mayer going into day two. They thought one of
Speaker 2: those two guys would slip after only Dalton Kincaid went
Speaker 2: on day one. So they knew going into day two,
Speaker 2: all right, tight end is going to be a big
Speaker 2: possibility here. And they felt like and they brought in
Speaker 2: Tucker Craft. They know what he brought to the table.
Speaker 2: They felt like there was a drop off off from
Speaker 2: the Kincaid, Laporta, Mayor Schoonmaker cluster of tight ends to
Speaker 2: the next cluster of tight ends. So they made the pick.
Speaker 2: They picked the tight end over a couple other positions there.
Speaker 2: So with that being said, they addressed need. But they
Speaker 2: did it with the best player available at that need
Speaker 2: at that time. And Duce Fawn is another great example
Speaker 2: of that. They had been searching for a running back
Speaker 2: all week in long Rosehawan Johnson was a name, Chris
Speaker 2: Rodriguez Junior from Kentucky was a name. Then they get
Speaker 2: down to this sixth round and they're saying, Okay, we
Speaker 2: didn't get a running back. We didn't find one. Who's
Speaker 2: the best one on the board, And at that point
Speaker 2: it was Deuce Vaughn And it just happened to work
Speaker 2: out for a great moment, outstanding.
Speaker 4: Moments, draft moments. I've ever seen him. Hard to top it, righteration.
Speaker 2: But the thing is, and for everybody that doesn't know
Speaker 2: and hasn't seen Duce Fawn, that dude is a playmaker ballder.
Speaker 2: He deserved to be in the sixth round. I had
Speaker 2: a fifth round great on him. So the fact that
Speaker 2: they've got that value and have that moment in the
Speaker 2: sixth round, I think it was one in one, just
Speaker 2: a fantastic pick. So with that being said, Isaiah, and
Speaker 2: you talk about the need and then the best player available,
Speaker 2: do you feel like there was a position that was neglected?
Speaker 2: Was it offensive line? Even though they did go get
Speaker 2: good value with awesome richards and brought him to the table.
Speaker 4: But I can't.
Speaker 2: Do you feel comfortable with the offensive line spot right now?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know the reason why I say that is
Speaker 5: because I hesitate to say that they didn't take care
Speaker 5: of business, because we are all sitting here together saying
Speaker 5: that they checked every box.
Speaker 4: Every box got checked.
Speaker 5: Okay, it may not happened in the order that we wanted,
Speaker 5: but who are we to say that the fifth round
Speaker 5: pick isn't going to play like a first round pick.
Speaker 4: Right, We don't know, right, we don't know Deron bl
Speaker 4: exactly right. So perfect is episode the.
Speaker 5: Fact that they addressed all their positional needs, needs, not once,
Speaker 5: but needs. I'm satisfied. I am, I am satisfied. Now
Speaker 5: you just got to wait and see what happens. You
Speaker 5: gotta wait and see why if you have a first rounder,
Speaker 5: that's if you have the third rounder, right, depending on
Speaker 5: what it is, it doesn't matter. You address your needs.
Speaker 5: Now you just hope that these guys show up and
Speaker 5: play ball.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I think that the biggest crux of all of our
Speaker 9: argument in the contrary would simply be the value equation,
Speaker 9: because of the order in which these players went didn't
Speaker 9: necessarily job with the order that we as individuals and
Speaker 9: or as a group and or as Cowboys fans might
Speaker 9: have had them valued on our respective boards. So in
Speaker 9: that capacity, we then have to defer to the recent
Speaker 9: success slash failure rate of this staff, and you got
Speaker 9: to give them grace because they've earned grace. So, for example,
Speaker 9: Mazie Smith, to your point, he checks all the boxes.
Speaker 9: He's not pure BPA, but he's not pure meat. He's neat,
Speaker 9: he's quite literally both of those things, and the same
Speaker 9: could be said for Schoolmaker. And they had discussions on
Speaker 9: other running backs a chain, but by the time they
Speaker 9: got on the clock, a chain was already gone. You
Speaker 9: lost out on guys. And then here comes Duce Vaughan.
Speaker 9: He's the blinking light, right, so as the Cowboys like
Speaker 9: to refer to a guy like that. So for me, yes,
Speaker 9: I had Schoolmaker graded later late three, late day three.
Speaker 9: But the run on tight ends. What everyone needs to
Speaker 9: understand in Cowboys Nation. That's listening, and I'm assuming everybody's
Speaker 9: listening because this is the best podcast out there. Say
Speaker 9: it again, this is the best podcast out there. Is
Speaker 9: that the draft doesn't operate in a vacuum. Okay, you
Speaker 9: have to as much as you want to stay true
Speaker 9: to your board, and you do your best to do so.
Speaker 9: You also have to understand that variables outside of your
Speaker 9: control will also dictate what happens next when you're on
Speaker 9: the clock.
Speaker 4: That's a Schoolmaker pick.
Speaker 9: Schoolmaker got pulled forward in my opinion because of the
Speaker 9: run on tight ends, but I still very much like
Speaker 9: Schoolmaker as a player. So the Cowboys still got themselves
Speaker 9: a definitive player and somebody who could come in and
Speaker 9: challenge for a starting role against Jake Ferguson and Peyton
Speaker 9: Hendershot and you love to see that happen. But to
Speaker 9: answer your question, I think the only position and I like,
Speaker 9: I assume Richards brains because I saw stat only three
Speaker 9: sacks allowed in over one thousand reps.
Speaker 4: And that's a you know, no North Carolina guy. He
Speaker 4: knows how to protect the he's playing tackle there too.
Speaker 9: Correct And Nick and I we spoke with Will McLay
Speaker 9: on yesterday in a conference call, and I specifically as McLay,
Speaker 9: is this a Tyler Smith situation where you bring a
Speaker 9: man as tackle but you commit him fully a guard
Speaker 9: in training camp? He was like, no, he's going to,
Speaker 9: you know, get reps at both. So keep keep a
Speaker 9: bit of information. I think wide receiver is still the
Speaker 9: question mark for me. That's still the question mark. There
Speaker 9: is a good, solid, solid ceiling on Jalen Brooks, the
Speaker 9: seventh round flyer pig, but we have to keep this
Speaker 9: in mind. We're talking about w R four through let's
Speaker 9: say six, Let's say seven. Let's say that carry seven
Speaker 9: because Turpin is a is a returner so you're talking
Speaker 9: about WR for through WR seven. I feel much better
Speaker 9: about that being the conversation versus a year ago when
Speaker 9: we're trying to figure out, you know, Jaylen Tobert, is
Speaker 9: he going to your wide receiver three? Yeah, right, it's
Speaker 9: a different conversation. So I'm more comfortable with that. But
Speaker 9: they're going to try to figure it out that that
Speaker 9: would be the only position. I would say that didn't
Speaker 9: necessarily get addressed completely, but I'd like to see with
Speaker 9: Jalen Bruce brings at the table.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think that's one of the bigger kids.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Absolutely.
Speaker 8: I think there's a lot of questions around the wide
Speaker 8: receiver depth going deeper into the offseason and ahead of
Speaker 8: training camp, there's gonna be a lot of questions around that.
Speaker 8: You know, see me for Hooko, you know, he was
Speaker 8: a guy that looked really good at training camp last year,
Speaker 8: didn't really get to show what he could do last season.
Speaker 8: You got Jalen Tolbert, who you know many are hoping
Speaker 8: can take that next step and get and earn that
Speaker 8: wide receiver four role because when injuries happen, as we've
Speaker 8: seen in the past, need those guys to step up
Speaker 8: and you know, I think that leads right back into
Speaker 8: the offensive line situation when injuries happened, who's gonna step in?
Speaker 8: You know, if Tyron Smith gets hurt again, you know
Speaker 8: who steps in and is able to fill that versatile role.
Speaker 8: You know, you move Tyler out to left tackle or
Speaker 8: and bring in who to fill his spots.
Speaker 7: So I think there is a lot of flexibility.
Speaker 8: And we've we've talked about this a lot and in
Speaker 8: the last few days about how much versatility is in
Speaker 8: the class. You know, with a lot of the draft
Speaker 8: picks that they made, you know, Deuce being able to
Speaker 8: come out of the backfield lineup in the slot, Austin
Speaker 8: Richards having that gar tackle flexibility. We could go on
Speaker 8: and on, but I think that versatility allows them to
Speaker 8: be a little bit more flexible whenever those injuries do happen,
Speaker 8: because that's what's plagued them in the past.
Speaker 2: That's a great point because you think about what's happened
Speaker 2: toward the back half of the schedule, and this happened
Speaker 2: under Kellen Moore, and of course Kelli Moore is now
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. But things get stagnant. We have talked
Speaker 2: about it on this show. The Big bag that Kellen
Speaker 2: Moore brought. You reach in, you try and pull out
Speaker 2: that one last toy, that one last item out of
Speaker 2: the bag, and there's nothing in there. You're just getting
Speaker 2: nothing but velvet down there. So so when that happens,
Speaker 2: We've talked about this before. It's a debate between play
Speaker 2: calling and a debate between skill sets. Did they go
Speaker 2: out and they add that skill set nick that allows
Speaker 2: them to go deeper into their bag from a play
Speaker 2: calling standpoint, by adding guys like a Douce Vaughan and
Speaker 2: Luke Schoonmaker, who can you can run behind Luke's Schoomaker.
Speaker 2: You can't run behind Jake Ferguson and Peyton Hendershot as blockers,
Speaker 2: but Schoonmaker can lead the way.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it opens up your offense in a completely different way.
Speaker 8: And I whenever I had heard that the Cowboys really
Speaker 8: wanted to go get a tight end that can help
Speaker 8: them in the run blocking game, I was like, Oh, okay, yeah,
Speaker 8: I like this different. Yeah, exactly, especially with the way
Speaker 8: Tony Pollard and Duce Vaughan can run between the tackles.
Speaker 8: I mean, we've seen Will McLay talked about it. You know,
Speaker 8: Duce Vaughn taking off for a seventy eight yard touchdown
Speaker 8: right between the tackles against Alabama. So you know him
Speaker 8: being able to do that, you know in Dallas, you know,
Speaker 8: I'm sure that's that's a big circle around their pick.
Speaker 7: It's exciting.
Speaker 9: Let me let me ask you this hypothetically speaking, here's
Speaker 9: a here's an offensive scheme, dual running back sit with
Speaker 9: duce Von and Tony Pollard in the same set. You
Speaker 9: have a two tight end, one of those tight ends,
Speaker 9: a schoonmaker who can block and catch Jake Ferguson, Ceedee Lamb,
Speaker 9: and then you got Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 7: You're we got too many on the field, right. I
Speaker 7: hope everybody check.
Speaker 4: It as to what is happening, right Kellen Moore kell
Speaker 4: with a different type of twelve.
Speaker 5: Nobody saw, there's no replay, willn't take a play. People
Speaker 5: need to pay attention to what's happening with this, With
Speaker 5: this offense, Kellen Moore is gone. Okay, Kellen Moore's aired out,
Speaker 5: throwing every single down type of guy. Give me three
Speaker 5: four receivers on the field at all times. Then you
Speaker 5: have coach coming in and he's pretty much saying that
Speaker 5: he wants to do what.
Speaker 4: Run the ball?
Speaker 5: He wants to run the ball. Okay, he backs that
Speaker 5: up in a draft by going out and getting that
Speaker 5: tight end.
Speaker 4: That does what block block.
Speaker 5: He goes out there and also grabs a running back
Speaker 5: right late pick that can have what shifty shiftiness? Right shiftiness.
Speaker 5: So now you're looking at it. These guys got the
Speaker 5: old lineman. They want to play bully ball. Don't expect
Speaker 5: to go out here and see a bunch of three
Speaker 5: receiver sets. Don't expect to see what you've seen over
Speaker 5: the past years. The offense is changing. And if you
Speaker 5: don't see that, that symmetry between the draft, what he's
Speaker 5: saying and what's happening with his roster right now, then
Speaker 5: you need to take a step back and look at it.
Speaker 5: These guys are gonna be a downhill team. What was
Speaker 5: the fullback they picked up? Lipkey, You don't just pick
Speaker 5: up fullbacks. It's not something you just do.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: McCarthy did it in Green Bay too, And what do
Speaker 2: they do?
Speaker 5: Absolutely, so you're going to see two backs, You're gonna
Speaker 5: see two tight ends.
Speaker 4: You have you have two sure wide receivers.
Speaker 5: And if you want to sprinkle in the third, you
Speaker 5: have a third You're know, they're they're getting away from
Speaker 5: being dependent on having three and four solid receivers.
Speaker 4: They're getting more towards. We're gonna be solid up front.
Speaker 5: We're gonna have somebody to come downhill, and we're gonna
Speaker 5: get four yards of pop on the ground. And then
Speaker 5: when we need to, we canna run slants, we canna
Speaker 5: run double moves, we run all these things. We are
Speaker 5: going to move the chains. They're just telling you they're
Speaker 5: getting away from being dependent on having a third thing
Speaker 5: thirty five times a game. Don't expect to see the
Speaker 5: same thing you've seen in the past years and.
Speaker 9: Then want to posing defenses crashed down, Brandon Cooks over
Speaker 9: the top, ceedee lamb against changing.
Speaker 5: Do you like the change? It's consistent. It's not going
Speaker 5: to be as flashy if what I'm if what my
Speaker 5: foresight has right now, right in my little crystal ball. Okay,
Speaker 5: it's not going to be as flashy. It's going to
Speaker 5: be more long winded.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: So, people like the big plays, that like the big splash.
Speaker 5: And that's cool, but that's not an exciting brand of football.
Speaker 5: It's not an exciting brand of football. But it is
Speaker 5: consistent it wears teams down, and it leaves your bag full,
Speaker 5: it leaves your back. Because you simplify the crap out
Speaker 5: of your offense, everybody doesn't have to think as much. Right,
Speaker 5: We're just out here playing, right, And then when they
Speaker 5: start changing their personnel up all of a sudden, Right,
Speaker 5: if you want to go to backs, if you want
Speaker 5: to throw a little duce out there, now you got
Speaker 5: a TP and a duce.
Speaker 4: Guess or do you need a third receiver out there?
Speaker 2: Nah?
Speaker 5: Right, I can put my I can put shoemaker out,
Speaker 5: I can put my line, but put my my tight
Speaker 5: end out there. Now, I got six offensive linemen pretty
Speaker 5: much right, I could block it up. I could sit
Speaker 5: back and I could throw it. If I need to
Speaker 5: get my guys out of the backfield, I could motion
Speaker 5: either one of those guys out the backfield, and all
Speaker 5: of a sudden, I have very viable options at the
Speaker 5: receiver position and running back position. They are trying to
Speaker 5: simplify this offense as much as possible. It's gonna pay dividends.
Speaker 5: Is watch this happening.
Speaker 9: Mike McCarthy said late last season, he made a comment
Speaker 9: that's really coming to fruition right now. When it really
Speaker 9: cements what Isaiah is saying as far as the foreshadowing
Speaker 9: for what the Cowboys offense is going to be. Mike
Speaker 9: McCarthy and a postgame press conference said, I would rather
Speaker 9: trade production for wins. I'll trade offensive production for wins.
Speaker 9: I'll trade out. Mike McCarthy doesn't care about having forty
Speaker 9: points a game. He doesn't care about averaging the forty burger.
Speaker 9: He cares about improving on the twelve and five season
Speaker 9: and getting deep into the playoffs. So if that means
Speaker 9: the Cowboys offense has to be more methodical and they
Speaker 9: average only twenty eight twenty seven points per game, which
Speaker 9: is still lights out, by the way, But if they
Speaker 9: only average twenty seven to twenty eight points per game,
Speaker 9: hell if they only average twenty four points per game,
Speaker 9: but you get a thirteen and four season and you're
Speaker 9: in the NFC Championship at minimum.
Speaker 4: That's what Mike McCarthy is here. What does Dak do best?
Speaker 4: I've said it a gazillion time, play action.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So if you know what your quarterback does best,
Speaker 5: play to it and he doesn't make too many mistakes
Speaker 5: when he's in that in that mode, why would you
Speaker 5: not build everything else around it to set him.
Speaker 4: Up for success.
Speaker 2: Whis just what they're doing.
Speaker 5: It's exactly what they're doing. We're gonna run the ball
Speaker 5: thirty times a game. We don't want him throwing the
Speaker 5: ball more than twenty five times a game. He is
Speaker 5: going to have a high percision rate because we're running
Speaker 5: highly accurate passes. You are a highly accurate, accurate routes,
Speaker 5: short nights, precise. Get it in their hands if they
Speaker 5: want to jump in. We got a double move built
Speaker 5: off of it. We are going to wear you down.
Speaker 9: Oh and by the way, never have guys who can separate.
Speaker 9: Whose name isn't cd let duce Vall. He's separating schoolmaker.
Speaker 9: Yes he's an elite run blocker, but he can separate.
Speaker 9: Jake Ferguson separator, Payton Hendershop separate.
Speaker 4: Look at the personnel groupings the personnel.
Speaker 5: If you come out in the twenty one personnel, they
Speaker 5: have to come out in the base defense.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 5: If you come out in the twenty two personnel, they
Speaker 5: have to come out in the base defense. Right and now,
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, twenty three even now you motion
Speaker 5: guys out. Now what now you have linebackers guard on
Speaker 5: your on your receiving running backs. Right, if you want
Speaker 5: to go out there and come out and you come
Speaker 5: out in twenty two or twenty three personnel, and you
Speaker 5: want to come out with through your linebackers and your
Speaker 5: big safeties, Guess what, we have two tight ends that
Speaker 5: can run routes on you all day long.
Speaker 4: We leave one of them in at the block. Yep.
Speaker 2: Now it gives an opportunity because last year, whenever you
Speaker 2: were relying on Dalton Schultz and he was kind of
Speaker 2: banged up toward the back half of the season, but
Speaker 2: you were relying on Jake Ferguson and Peyton Hindershot. Is
Speaker 2: that youth duo at the tight end position. You knew
Speaker 2: what was happening. Jake Ferguson was going to come in
Speaker 2: there and he was going to block eighty percent at
Speaker 2: the time. And then you had you had Peyton Hendershot
Speaker 2: who was going to come in He was going to
Speaker 2: be a receiver eighty percent at the time. They weren't
Speaker 2: going to rely on the other one to do the
Speaker 2: other task. Now you can have a schoonmaker who blows
Speaker 2: that all up and you don't know what he's doing
Speaker 2: because he is capable as a receiver just as much
Speaker 2: as he is capable as a blocker. So I think
Speaker 2: it does. It opens things up and you can see
Speaker 2: a pattern. So when we come back, I want to
Speaker 2: talk about who the draft picks affect most. You mentioned
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, but does it affect the other tight ends.
Speaker 2: Does it affect the linebackers who won the draft weekend
Speaker 2: in the Cowboys locker room. We'll talk about that next
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Speaker 2: All right, Nick, we're gonna put you on the spot,
Speaker 2: throw it and go straight at it. Who won Draft
Speaker 2: day inside the Cowboys locker room? If we're talking about
Speaker 2: position groups, was this a draft that builds around Dak
Speaker 2: Prescott coaching staff? I'll throw the coaching staff in there too.
Speaker 2: Who won draft weekend by the acquisitions that the Cowboys may?
Speaker 7: Bear with me here, I'm just gonna go defense.
Speaker 8: You talked about Kellen Moore being stagnant at times last year,
Speaker 8: and there would be multiple drives where they're off the
Speaker 8: field and three four plays and you know the defense
Speaker 8: is right back on the field trying to, you know,
Speaker 8: go against a run defense or a really good rushing offense,
Speaker 8: and then they're getting run right up the middle. It's
Speaker 8: it's bad complimentary football. And Mike McCarthy talked a lot
Speaker 8: about it this past weekend. We're trying to implement complimentary football.
Speaker 8: And this kind of passes back into our last segment
Speaker 8: of being able to run the ball more. Even when
Speaker 8: you have a bad drive, you're still taking two and
Speaker 8: a half minutes off the clock and letting those guys
Speaker 8: get a little bit of rest and then with the
Speaker 8: run stoppers that they're able to bring in. Now you know,
Speaker 8: have those guys rest up, and then you have good
Speaker 8: run stoppers and the A and B gaps that are
Speaker 8: ready to get back on the field and play defense.
Speaker 8: So I'm just gonna say defense and look at the
Speaker 8: Overshown take as well. That's going to provide a lot
Speaker 8: of positional flexibility in all three levels.
Speaker 7: He has position.
Speaker 8: He has experienced at all three levels as an ed drudger,
Speaker 8: linebacker and safety. I mean having a guy like that
Speaker 8: that can either beef him up and bring him down,
Speaker 8: or you know, lean him up and put him back,
Speaker 8: or just keep him in the linebacking corps, I think
Speaker 8: I think there's just a lot to lack about the
Speaker 8: defense lean him up and push him back.
Speaker 2: I like that, tomarveon Overshown all three levels and so
Speaker 2: and you had been around Overshown through your recruiting days,
Speaker 2: right because he was out in the East Texas initially,
Speaker 2: and then of course he went to Austin and you
Speaker 2: spend some time down there.
Speaker 7: But I mean shout out to Art Texas by the way,
Speaker 7: East Texas, the Texas.
Speaker 4: Beast, Texas Baby.
Speaker 2: Where does he fit best? Do you think he fits
Speaker 2: best as a linebacker or just as a purely versatile piece.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think he's gonna fit best as a linebacker,
Speaker 8: But I think he's going to have a lot of
Speaker 8: pass rush upside that I think not a lot of
Speaker 8: people will expect.
Speaker 2: Dan Quinn knows how to unlock that from people, which
Speaker 2: goes to my answer.
Speaker 4: Dan Quinn is the big winner. He continues to win.
Speaker 9: The Cowboys continue to basically give him carte blanche, and
Speaker 9: wisely so, because he's already built one of the most
Speaker 9: dominant defenses in the league. And it just got better.
Speaker 9: You dropped Mazzie Smith in you talk about Demarveion Overshown,
Speaker 9: who was someone I like so much. I mocked him
Speaker 9: to the Cowboys and my one and only draft and
Speaker 9: here he is, so hook him. And then you talk
Speaker 9: about Villiyami for Hoko for those that are unaware of
Speaker 9: they call him Junior for Hoko for those that are
Speaker 9: unaware of, the cousin of Vita Vea.
Speaker 4: The guy is violent. He he has two gears, stop
Speaker 4: and kill.
Speaker 9: Okay, go back and watch his film and you love
Speaker 9: everything you see from him. So when you talk about
Speaker 9: overshown and Mazzie Smith, and you talk about Villiami for Hoko,
Speaker 9: and I'm actually intrigued with Eric Scott, someone.
Speaker 4: Who not a lot of people knew about. But if
Speaker 4: Will McClay is and Dan Quinn are so all in
Speaker 4: on this.
Speaker 9: Kid that they're willing to give up a pick next year,
Speaker 9: which will ultimately be a comp pick, but a twenty
Speaker 9: twenty four fifth round pick, to move up and draft
Speaker 9: him at one seventy eight instead of risking him falling
Speaker 9: the two twelve.
Speaker 4: That tells me something.
Speaker 9: And for those that don't know, the four point seventy
Speaker 9: one second forty was on a tweak quad right because
Speaker 9: he tweaked it, pull up, jumping thirty nine and a
Speaker 9: half inches in his vertical still ran it, though, do
Speaker 9: you know how insane that is to even run a
Speaker 9: four to seven to one hurt? But he said he's
Speaker 9: been clocked at sub four five, sub four four five.
Speaker 9: So Eric Scott, he's intriguing. Bottom line is dan Quinn
Speaker 9: already entered this this draft with top two defense in
Speaker 9: the league. I'll put San Francisco up there as well.
Speaker 9: Top two defense in the league. I'll put Philly at three.
Speaker 9: We'll see how my Georgia boys blew. But it got better.
Speaker 9: That should terrify people. Keep in mind he also went
Speaker 9: and got Stefan Gilmore to play opposite Trevon Diggs. Jordan
Speaker 9: Lewis is coming back healthy to tandem with the Ron
Speaker 9: Blank coming off of breakout rookie season. Donovan Wilson is back,
Speaker 9: three headed Monster, jay Ron Curse is back there, Malie
Speaker 9: Hooker's back there, and then you have Marveian Overshown. Who
Speaker 9: where's he lining up? It's a guessing game. Where's Waldo?
Speaker 9: It's gonna be Where's Waldo? Just like it is with
Speaker 9: jay Ron Curse. Dan Quinn won and keeps winning.
Speaker 2: It's da Barbion over shown reminds me of a mixture
Speaker 2: between Michaeh. Parsons and jay Ron Curse, because that's what
Speaker 2: it's gonna be, because it's like, okay, I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: not comparing let me let me slow this down real quick.
Speaker 2: I'm not comparing his skill set to both of those players.
Speaker 2: Like I don't think he is Michael Parsons and I
Speaker 2: don't think he is jay Ron Curse. Put together usability,
Speaker 2: but his usage could be compared to that because where
Speaker 2: is Micah gonna line up? For the most part, he's
Speaker 2: now going to be.
Speaker 4: An ad dresser.
Speaker 2: That's just kind of where he has been, where he's
Speaker 2: been successful. Then you have jay Ron Curse, who where
Speaker 2: is he gonna line up? Okay, he's gonna be in
Speaker 2: the back of the defense and he'll come into the
Speaker 2: box and they to cover a tight end. He's gonna
Speaker 2: do so many different things. And then there's a Dabarbion overshow,
Speaker 2: and that's like, all right, now, he can do all
Speaker 2: three of those things.
Speaker 5: So when I see him, I see Donald, I see
Speaker 5: I see a Donald. I see a Donald would cover.
Speaker 5: It's a hard hitter, like that's what That's what I
Speaker 5: see when I see him. I see Donald like he's
Speaker 5: either he's either not coming or he's going. It's either,
Speaker 5: you know, it's full speed ahead, and he has ability
Speaker 5: to cover a little bit. So I see, I see
Speaker 5: a bigger, more rangier Donald more than a little bit.
Speaker 4: That's what I see when I see he is really
Speaker 4: good at coverage. So I agree with you guys. If
Speaker 4: we're talking about offensive defense, I think the defense won.
Speaker 5: They won the night. When we're talking about position groups.
Speaker 5: I think the running backs one, really, I really do.
Speaker 5: I think the running backs, or even over the D line,
Speaker 5: because you think about, yeah, man, they have a one
Speaker 5: heck of a pick right the D line. Didn't they
Speaker 5: need it? They need they needed that. Outside of that,
Speaker 5: they had no needs. It was once offensively when you
Speaker 5: go to the running back room.
Speaker 4: They had needs. We talked about it. They had needs
Speaker 4: it right.
Speaker 5: When I talk about a position a position group, that one,
Speaker 5: I would have to say that they won in the
Speaker 5: draft and in post draft by paying by picking up Hunter.
Speaker 5: Because now you look at it in terms of what
Speaker 5: they're saying that they want to do. They have those
Speaker 5: boxes checked. They don't have to look outside anymore. That
Speaker 5: room is solid from what they did in just the draft.
Speaker 5: In just the draft, they addressed it right. So they
Speaker 5: already got TP right. They got Ronald Jones before, right,
Speaker 5: so they got too good about that's a two headed monster.
Speaker 5: Ronald Jones, from my perspective, is a blocking His guy's
Speaker 5: gonna be under to be on a third down situations
Speaker 5: to block in short yardage.
Speaker 4: That's your job. That's your job.
Speaker 5: Get us one to two yards and make sure nobody
Speaker 5: his deck in the back of the head.
Speaker 4: Okay, read linebackers one to two.
Speaker 5: Communicate with the on line, know exactly where the slide's going.
Speaker 5: Make sure you pick off the an outline of scrimmage.
Speaker 5: That is your job.
Speaker 4: Okay. Now, and we go out there and we get
Speaker 4: a shifty cat. Okay, TP, we don't want you to
Speaker 4: be that shifting guy. No more.
Speaker 5: You have more responsibilities. We're gonna have somebody who was
Speaker 5: your role. That's he's now taking your role for your
Speaker 5: last year's role. We're your last three years role.
Speaker 4: Okay. So now that's Deuce Dews. That's your job.
Speaker 5: And guess what, we got a big monster if we
Speaker 5: don't have to bring a lineman in no more to
Speaker 5: go down here and come downhill. Every time we have
Speaker 5: a lineman in the game, we're running the ball. No Now,
Speaker 5: we got a foolback who's ce ball.
Speaker 4: Hit ball.
Speaker 5: That's all he wants to do. He wants to see
Speaker 5: you tell him he go out there and hit fifty two. Okay, coach,
Speaker 5: he can also catch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again, now you got it. Coming out of
Speaker 4: the back of the first of Telly. We started talking about.
Speaker 2: Goallar about receiving touchdowns last year.
Speaker 4: Now we're talking about play.
Speaker 5: Actually were talking about him coming in, bluffing on the
Speaker 5: linebackingay and going out to the flat right. So now
Speaker 5: you in terms of addressing a position group holistically, I
Speaker 5: think the running backs won.
Speaker 4: I like it.
Speaker 2: That's that's an interesting take because I agree that they won.
Speaker 2: Did they win over the defensive line? I think Mozzie
Speaker 2: Smith adding to that defensive line? What if we talked
Speaker 2: about and we talked about it before Jonathan Hankins, and
Speaker 2: then we talked about it after Jonathan Hankins came into
Speaker 2: the fold. They need a guy like that. Absolutely, they
Speaker 2: have needed a Mozzi Smith and they got Jonathan Hankins.
Speaker 2: And I still love Jonathan Hankins being on this football team,
Speaker 2: even in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4: Need it both, yes, you need it both.
Speaker 5: We talked about big Jonathan Hankins coming back and saying
Speaker 5: that is an instrumental piece.
Speaker 4: That's something that happened.
Speaker 5: But we also said he needs somebody when he goes
Speaker 5: out that that role is still fulfilled because.
Speaker 2: Now it's the opposite way though now Mozzie Smith is
Speaker 2: that role and Jonathan Hankins is the fill in and
Speaker 2: Mozzi Smith is the long term answer to that question.
Speaker 2: So now you allow for everybody to run free, not
Speaker 2: only when Jonathan Hankins is in the game, but now
Speaker 2: you've got a Mozzie Smith and a Jonathan Hankins. You're
Speaker 2: let's put them both out there, let's have some fun,
Speaker 2: let's go line.
Speaker 5: But you're the thing is they're not exposed. And that's
Speaker 5: the one that's the conversation we had pre draft. The
Speaker 5: reason why they needed to address that position and with
Speaker 5: a high pick is so that you're never exposed to
Speaker 5: the run when they see big Jonathan Hankns go out.
Speaker 5: What is offensive coordinator automatically think the middle of the
Speaker 5: defense is weak. Yeah, we can. We can go right
Speaker 5: up the middle. Okay if we want to. We can
Speaker 5: do quarterback sneaks if we want to. We can get
Speaker 5: easy yardage because that's where they're soft. At right, they're soft. Right,
Speaker 5: What did Michael Jordan do? He took his weakness and
Speaker 5: he made it his strength. What did Dallas Cowboys do?
Speaker 5: They took their weakness. They just made it their strength.
Speaker 5: That's how you address your roster. They did at one
Speaker 5: heck of a job. And now we have a rotation
Speaker 5: on right, we have all these defensive ends. We have
Speaker 5: all these tackles, right, but now you have a rotation
Speaker 5: of a guy who's going to sit in the zero
Speaker 5: or the one gap.
Speaker 9: Well, here's what I say, and careful with this, because
Speaker 9: I think that you'll see sets of Mazzi and Jonathan
Speaker 9: Hankins together together in more than just goal line if
Speaker 9: you read the tea leaves and listen to what Will
Speaker 9: McClay is saying, Stephen Jones was saying, when you listen
Speaker 9: to what Mozzie Smith is saying. So I rode on
Speaker 9: the transport with Mozzie Smith from DFW upun his first
Speaker 9: arrival to the Star here at Frisco, and one of
Speaker 9: the things he said, which was later backed up by
Speaker 9: McLay and Stephen Jones, is yes, he is that definitive
Speaker 9: run stopper, that elite run stopper. But they saw some
Speaker 9: things on the Michigan film that are going to have
Speaker 9: them testing him in training camp as a flex. They're
Speaker 9: going to see him do some three tech work, some
Speaker 9: five tech work as well, depending.
Speaker 4: On what the lineup is. Four down man, three down man.
Speaker 9: So you're going to see Mazzi Smith not just operate
Speaker 9: solely as a run stopper, which means if he's on
Speaker 9: the field with Jonathan Hankins, which direction are you running to?
Speaker 9: Because also you got to keep in mind these are
Speaker 9: operating in a rotation of guys like osa Odiggy Zuwa
Speaker 9: who's coming off of a breakout season, Chauncey Goosten, whose
Speaker 9: needed was pointy North.
Speaker 5: Right now, Dan, I have to say it again, dan
Speaker 5: Quinn was already a winner coming into the draft. And
Speaker 5: the fact that they drop a nuclear.
Speaker 9: Weapon like Mazzie Smith onto the table and then sprinkle
Speaker 9: in another weapon in Villyami Fojoko and then say hey,
Speaker 9: Tomar Jon Overshan, come on in and join the party.
Speaker 9: This defense as a whole, to Nick's point, is insane.
Speaker 9: It's ridiculous.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we saw dan Quinn kind of sneak over to
Speaker 8: the to the end of the table in the front
Speaker 8: office after they made their first round pick and they'd
Speaker 8: officially made it, and then a smile was ear We
Speaker 8: felt it, We felt it downstairs, Yes, it was.
Speaker 7: He's got to be excited. He's got every every right
Speaker 7: to be excited.
Speaker 8: Quick thing I want to touch on, if they can
Speaker 8: unlock that pass rush ability for Mazzie Smith, that would be.
Speaker 4: Fun because he's already disruptive from zero one to two.
Speaker 4: That's super explosive, super explosied.
Speaker 5: There's only one person, think about this, there's only one
Speaker 5: person on this defense who's asked to play one position,
Speaker 5: Jonathan Hankins.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody else is.
Speaker 4: Get in there, big boy.
Speaker 2: And I mean, if we would have talked about it
Speaker 2: last week, if we would have in our lead up
Speaker 2: show said okay, three of the first four picks are
Speaker 2: going to go to the defensive side of the ball. One,
Speaker 2: I don't think we would have believed. I would not
Speaker 2: have and two I don't think we would have been
Speaker 2: as excited about it. But that's what dan Quinn brings.
Speaker 2: Hiss an element because there's a trust factor there because
Speaker 2: of what he's done, because of the the guys that
Speaker 2: he's hit on and the guys that he stood on
Speaker 2: the table for have worked out, they have been there,
Speaker 2: they've done that, and they've shown it. So he's earned
Speaker 2: that ability to go in and say, guys, I really
Speaker 2: want a Massie Smith, even though I know we need
Speaker 2: offensive line, but I'm here, look at me. This is
Speaker 2: my third year is defense coordinator. We need a Massie Smith.
Speaker 2: Let's go get us a guy real quick. We need
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Speaker 2: See you there, I would love to go. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to be there. I'm gonna be That's that. That
Speaker 2: morning I will be flying out to Seattle for the
Speaker 2: start of my honeymoon because I'm getting married on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Seattle is not a bad place to be, k Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, and that's interesting that you say that last night,
Speaker 2: and actually cracking.
Speaker 4: Is the disagree It is cracking. You know what, It's amazing.
Speaker 2: This started yesterday afternoon. I called to you and we
Speaker 2: were talking about a couple of days and I was like,
Speaker 2: I wonder, I forgot Dallas and Seattle are playing in
Speaker 2: this series, and that of course they go back and forth.
Speaker 2: Of course, last night was at the American Airline Center.
Speaker 2: The Climate Pledge Arena in Seattle is the other the
Speaker 2: other games of the series. I was like, I wonder
Speaker 2: if there's a game that would overlap while I'm in Seattle.
Speaker 2: I'm only there for one night during this series, authorities,
Speaker 2: because you know then we're going on a cruise and whatever.
Speaker 2: But that one night is going to be Game six.
Speaker 2: And I found that out last night, and I spent
Speaker 2: way too much money on Sea Geek Bang. I went
Speaker 2: on Sea Geek and locked it in.
Speaker 9: You can't, oh, you can't put a price on being
Speaker 9: in the bill. When the stars eliminate.
Speaker 4: That, they put a price on it.
Speaker 2: There was a price on it, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: It was just a big price. But the hotel we're
Speaker 2: staying at is like a couple of blocks away, and
Speaker 2: so we're going to walk to the stadium if they go.
Speaker 14: But here's the thing, if only someone knew anybody in
Speaker 14: the Krakens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is all happening. Or I heard about Isaiah
Speaker 2: being front row last night Buddy Buddy with the Krakens
Speaker 2: ownership group. And I didn't even get a text message.
Speaker 4: About this morning.
Speaker 2: They didn't even hear about it. But you know what, Isaiah,
Speaker 2: I wasuch.
Speaker 4: I was CouchSurfing while you were the same here Rubbin Elbow,
Speaker 4: I was in there. I was in there pissing off
Speaker 4: all the stars. It was awesome.
Speaker 2: Okay, So for those that don't know, and you should know,
Speaker 2: if you listen to this show, Seattle all, I mean
Speaker 2: that's hometown for for Isaiah.
Speaker 4: Stand back.
Speaker 2: He's got his cracking shirt on.
Speaker 4: This is custom, says the custom.
Speaker 5: You can crack house one of one, one on one
Speaker 5: man start selling these joy I'm trying.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to counterbalance it. But that that's next level.
Speaker 4: And one of my clients made this for me. He
Speaker 4: designed it looks great. It's pretty dope, but it looks
Speaker 4: like it's so funny. Look it looks pro shops awesome.
Speaker 4: It is going to be.
Speaker 2: But so you're a huge Cracking fan. You have been
Speaker 2: since day one.
Speaker 5: I mean they founded the team every just like people
Speaker 5: are Dallas everything, I'm Seattle everything.
Speaker 2: Well, you're you're you're one of one in the studio
Speaker 2: because three of us are stars fans.
Speaker 4: Absolutely you should be.
Speaker 2: I think we need to make a bet. I think
Speaker 2: we need to bet something here.
Speaker 4: You still want to bet?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I was going to say, you know, we scored three
Speaker 4: goals in fifty two seconds. That's okay, Okay, you.
Speaker 2: Scored one the rest of the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, grab him and hold, grab him and hold.
Speaker 2: You tried, you tried to.
Speaker 4: Like nervous. We got pav God, so we would.
Speaker 2: We'll be all right, bro, show Letski I mean, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, yeah, Pavelski. I don't know why I said,
Speaker 2: let's I think that's a football player.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Uh, Pavelski though, oh man, it was nuts four goals
Speaker 2: last night. Okay. Here's the thing, though, we gotta we
Speaker 2: gotta come up with with the bet that's happening here.
Speaker 2: Of course, it's a series win stars, win the series,
Speaker 2: crack and win the spot one. Uh yeah, we give
Speaker 2: you a one one game head start. What are we
Speaker 2: thinking here? We think it just jersey hat swap where where?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of a bet live on the air.
Speaker 2: By the way, if you have any questions or you
Speaker 2: have any suggestions.
Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, tweet us. Tweet us with your suggestions.
Speaker 5: Let's take a poll. We have tonight until tomorrow.
Speaker 2: We got next week too. Yeah, yeah, let's take a pole.
Speaker 2: I don't think see what I think this thing is
Speaker 2: going six.
Speaker 9: Or yeah, let's do it like we did the nickname
Speaker 9: like that. We're going to crowd source this. So ladies
Speaker 9: and gentlemen hit us up each individual on the Twitter.
Speaker 2: I'm voice of the Star Kyle Underscore.
Speaker 14: Yeomans can stand back monetary because the NFL zero zero
Speaker 14: mon no money can be just this is a pure pride.
Speaker 4: We just talked about. Okay, it's gonna be one heck
Speaker 4: of a series. I can tell you that.
Speaker 2: Patrick just reminded me, So Nick your Twitter to follow.
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 7: Nick, Harris d C.
Speaker 2: Harris d C.
Speaker 8: We talked some cowboys. We also talked to Miami Heat.
Speaker 8: Especially it comes tapping, so your heat.
Speaker 7: Yeah, big time.
Speaker 4: Almost pulled it out without Butler.
Speaker 7: I should have. I'll take it.
Speaker 8: You see you see Jimmy last night and smiling and
Speaker 8: wave into the crowd.
Speaker 4: You guys can be that combined without in the garden.
Speaker 2: This this is talking cowboys. But also, I mean the
Speaker 2: way that this show is run. This is like we're
Speaker 2: sitting at a bar, We're sitting at a sports bar
Speaker 2: or talking with your friends. We're gonna we're gonna tailor
Speaker 2: it to.
Speaker 4: Be who represents a city exactly.
Speaker 2: I wish that this series was like last week. You
Speaker 2: don't know why I do not wish it was. Why
Speaker 2: I wish it was last week?
Speaker 14: Why is because that bet could have been uh, you
Speaker 14: wearing a cracking jersey down the aisle.
Speaker 2: That's not I would have never make that bet in
Speaker 2: the first place.
Speaker 4: Why not confident card?
Speaker 2: No, there's a couple of different reasons. Why as an.
Speaker 5: Undershirts undershirt, just have it underneath, just rip.
Speaker 2: It open, Beamer.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I don't know if you're familiar with the divorce rating,
Speaker 9: but let's not contribute to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm good on that lot. But all right, guys,
Speaker 2: well yeah, well we'll we'll hit the bet next week.
Speaker 2: I will be here next week. So it is the
Speaker 2: week after the wedding, but my honeymoon doesn't start until
Speaker 2: the thirteenth and Tacos and tunes.
Speaker 5: There's two more games games before No, yeah, two more
Speaker 5: games before, three games before next show. No, I think
Speaker 5: they played Sunday Tuesday something like that. So Thursday, Sunday Tuesday.
Speaker 5: I think that's what they are, Saturday Tuesday anyways.
Speaker 2: So it's a Tuesday game, not a Monday game.
Speaker 4: It's one of those. But either way, there's two to
Speaker 4: three games before our next show, so.
Speaker 2: It won't be clenched by then, and if it is,
Speaker 2: you'll win the bet. But that's fine, we'll figure it well.
Speaker 9: You guys, hold it down next week, rub it all
Speaker 9: in his face the wins, because next Tuesday I will
Speaker 9: be out of office, actually my first off season, you.
Speaker 4: Know, reset, So you're going to reset.
Speaker 9: Just want to try while I'm watching the stars win
Speaker 9: because that's what I love.
Speaker 5: Competition. I'm a I'm a fan of competition. Yeah, that's
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter what sports.
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, in order to be a part
Speaker 2: of the.
Speaker 4: Show, you have to run a forty r dash down
Speaker 4: with that.
Speaker 2: Okay, book he's ready?
Speaker 4: Question, can you beat Kyle book stop?
Speaker 7: What did he run?
Speaker 4: Question?
Speaker 2: I asked that question?
Speaker 9: He's already Yeah, it's already.
Speaker 2: Yeahs it's done, it's over.
Speaker 4: It's deuce. Wouldn't ask that question? What a tiny run?
Speaker 2: No, no, all that cornhole? Yeah, and then you got
Speaker 2: to try and be beamer.
Speaker 7: And I'm pretty good at cornhole. I'm not. This is
Speaker 7: not a challenge.
Speaker 8: I'm just saying, yeah, hold on, we gotta yeah, we
Speaker 8: got a thing.
Speaker 5: There's there's a thing, okay, and we have to say
Speaker 5: it with your chest Fridays, but being there, our show
Speaker 5: is only once a week, right now. We say what
Speaker 5: I chat. We don't back down from commings. We stand
Speaker 5: behind what we say. Sometimes it's gonna be received, well,
Speaker 5: sometimes it's not, but we stand behind it.
Speaker 4: We say with our chest.
Speaker 7: Chris Beamy, you can see me outside.
Speaker 4: Let's go. Welcome to the show, Nick Harris, all right,
Speaker 4: we'll be.
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Speaker 2: right here from the Star in Frisco. For Chris Bean
Speaker 2: for Exiah stand back, Nick Harris and Patrick No sy Walker.
Speaker 2: We also do the chopper at the end West show
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