WEBVTT - The Mark Moss Show - What the Heck are NFTs?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to another episode of The Mark Moss Show,

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<v Speaker 1>where we talk about bitcoin. We talked about cryptocurrencies, we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the decentralized revolution that is taking the world

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<v Speaker 1>by storm. It's no surprise if you're paying attention at all,

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<v Speaker 1>things are rapidly changing. Of course, I've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this for about a year and a half of how

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<v Speaker 1>we are at the end of a cycle, not just

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<v Speaker 1>one cycle, but three converging cycles that will change the

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<v Speaker 1>entire world as we know it. We're talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>financial revolution cycle, and eighty year financial revolution cycle, a

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<v Speaker 1>fifty year technological revolution cycle, and a two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty year political revolution cycle, all three converging right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about it all the time, and we can

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<v Speaker 1>see signs of it all around us. Peak centralization, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course the world is rejecting that and pushing it back,

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<v Speaker 1>going to decentralization, and we have this technology that's leading

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<v Speaker 1>the way. That's one thing that analysts like Ray Dalio,

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<v Speaker 1>who I really respect, just recently read his new book,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh It's an amazing book that was The Changing World Order. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The amount of research that got into the book is

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<v Speaker 1>amazing and highly recommended for anybody, but what somebody like

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<v Speaker 1>him misses is technology. And so he's done a really

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<v Speaker 1>good job studying the rising fall of empires from a

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<v Speaker 1>financial level and gets into the political level as well.

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<v Speaker 1>For some reason, this seems like what he fails to

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<v Speaker 1>recognize is that it's it's technology that changes the world

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<v Speaker 1>through thousands of years of history if we go back

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<v Speaker 1>and take a look at it, and that is what

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<v Speaker 1>we're witnessing right now. I got a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about on the show today that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to cover. One of the things that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>cover is something that I haven't talked about on the

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<v Speaker 1>show before, and it's been a hot topic. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>something that I've been asked to cover many, many, many times,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is the world of in f tas that

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<v Speaker 1>stands for a non fungible token. So what the heck

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<v Speaker 1>are n f t s? Why isn't everybody wants me

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about n f t s? And why is

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<v Speaker 1>it that I have not wanted to talk about n

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<v Speaker 1>f t s? Pretty interesting? So I thought, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>let's dig into that a little bit. I saw an

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<v Speaker 1>article that came out this week on the Wall Street

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<v Speaker 1>Journal talking about it and I thought, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>this might be a good place to pick it up

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about it. Now, let's say, I guess actually,

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm thinking about it. It's not the first time

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about n f T s. I have talked

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<v Speaker 1>about them before. It might have been a month or

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<v Speaker 1>two ago. I was talking about n f T s

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<v Speaker 1>and we were talking about specifically how they are used for.

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<v Speaker 1>How do I say it, You know, manipulation, market manipulation,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, And so there's a lot of market

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<v Speaker 1>manipulation happens in the art industry n f T s.

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<v Speaker 1>So first of all, that me back it up here.

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<v Speaker 1>So an n f T, if you're just tuning in,

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<v Speaker 1>an n f T stands for a non fungible token

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<v Speaker 1>n f T non fungible token. Well, if it's non fungible,

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<v Speaker 1>what what is what is fungible? It's a good question.

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<v Speaker 1>So fungible means one is worth one. So for example,

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<v Speaker 1>a very old US dollar that's all dirty and ripped

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<v Speaker 1>and torn up is worth the same as one brand

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<v Speaker 1>new US dollar that's all clean and crisp and brand new.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter if it's old, dirty, torn up, or

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<v Speaker 1>if it's brand new, crisp and clean. One dollar is

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<v Speaker 1>worth one dollar. It's fungible. For money to be money,

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<v Speaker 1>it must have certain attributes that make it good money.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of those attributes are it needs to be portable,

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<v Speaker 1>it needs to be divisible, it needs to be durable.

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<v Speaker 1>So portable, you have to be able to carry it around.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the reason why gold didn't um It's

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<v Speaker 1>got all the other attributes of money, but gold lacks

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<v Speaker 1>in this one attribute. It's not very portable. Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's big, it's heavy. So it led to us putting

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<v Speaker 1>gold into the banks, and then the banks gave us

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<v Speaker 1>back receipts or io use or claims on that gold

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<v Speaker 1>or what we would call paper gold certificates or then dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Those dollars were just claims on the gold, and we

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<v Speaker 1>did that because gold was big, heavy, clunky, and the

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<v Speaker 1>dollars was debt issued on that there was a debt.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an IOU. It allowed us to increase the velocity,

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<v Speaker 1>It allowed us to increase the speed in which we

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<v Speaker 1>can transfer the gold, because, as I'm saying, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>fit the one attribute of money, which is portable. If

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<v Speaker 1>you have a gold coin, sure that's pretty portable you

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<v Speaker 1>put in your pocket. If you have millions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>or tens or millions or hundreds millions of dollars like

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<v Speaker 1>nations do, it's not portable at all. Especially and even

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<v Speaker 1>though a coin may be somewhat portable, it's not in

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<v Speaker 1>today's information age. So today we're working in a connected world,

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<v Speaker 1>internet based world. Most of my team works all remote

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<v Speaker 1>and I pay them remotely, And how can I pay

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<v Speaker 1>them with gold remotely? Of course you can't because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not portable. Uh. Money also should be durable. So obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't make much sense to store all my life savings,

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<v Speaker 1>all my wealth in banana because the banana is not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna last that long, right, It's not durable. Gold is

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<v Speaker 1>very durable. Gold couldsider at the bottom of the sea

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, forever and not get corroded. Gold is

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<v Speaker 1>very extremely durable, So that's good. It must be divisible.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we were using you know, in the early days,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a barter system, and so we had a cow,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I want to trade you my cow for

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<v Speaker 1>your two goats or whatever. But if you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>the whole cow, that cow is not divisible, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>not good. It also has to be recognizable, recognizable or

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<v Speaker 1>what we call sailable, So that means that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people have to take it. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times people when we talk about cryptocurrencies, we talked about bitcoin. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about bitcoin all the time. Pretty much anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>in the world today, you could find someone that could

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<v Speaker 1>take your bitcoin. People say, well, what about x y

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<v Speaker 1>z coin? What about you know this privacy coin? Privacy

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<v Speaker 1>coins are better, they're more private. Well, they may be

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<v Speaker 1>more private, but privacy isn't one of the main attributes

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<v Speaker 1>of money, but sailability or recognizability is. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>can get anyone in the world to take a bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't find somebody in the world to take

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<v Speaker 1>a pirate coin or mon arrow or x y z

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<v Speaker 1>privacy coin. So it must be salable um, and it

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<v Speaker 1>also has to be fungible. So back to the dollar example. Uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has to be scarce. That's another thing. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good one to bring up. So it has

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<v Speaker 1>to be scarce as well. That's the problem with our

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<v Speaker 1>fiat dollars, the the US dollars that we use today.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not scarce as a matter of fact, they print

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<v Speaker 1>trillions of them all the time. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>in the last two years, the amount of money, the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of dollars in existence in circulation, has gone up

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<v Speaker 1>by over forty percent. Let me say it again, the

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<v Speaker 1>Federal Reserve, the Central Bank of the US, has has

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<v Speaker 1>increased the money supply by over forty percent and just

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<v Speaker 1>the last two years. So any wonder why home prices

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<v Speaker 1>are up on average about and use cars or up

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<v Speaker 1>on average about doesn't make sense because when they when

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<v Speaker 1>they increase the value of the money, it decreases or

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<v Speaker 1>when they increase the volume of the money, it decreases

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<v Speaker 1>the value or the purchasing power of those dollars. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that houses are getting more valuable or use

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<v Speaker 1>cars are getting more valuable. People think their house is

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<v Speaker 1>getting more valuable, but you certainly don't think you're used

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<v Speaker 1>cars getting more valuable. What's happening is your dollars are

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<v Speaker 1>losing their value, losing their purchasing power, and so it

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<v Speaker 1>takes more dollars to buy that same thing, that same

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<v Speaker 1>good that it did before. And so the US dollar

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<v Speaker 1>is is very portable, it's very divisible, it's very recognizable,

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<v Speaker 1>it's most recognized money in the world. It's divisible. I

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<v Speaker 1>can break it down to a hundred pennies, right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty durable. At least coins are pretty durable. Even

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<v Speaker 1>the paper dollars are pretty good durable if you put

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<v Speaker 1>them through the wash. So and and it's definitely recognizable.

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<v Speaker 1>So it has all that. It's just not scarce. So

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<v Speaker 1>gold isn't portable, but it is scarce. Dollars are are

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<v Speaker 1>are No, they're not, They're not scarce. Now I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about n f t s today. I'm gonna break this

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<v Speaker 1>down for you, but I'm trying to set this up

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<v Speaker 1>so you have a little bit of base knowledge to

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<v Speaker 1>go off of. We'll talk about n f t s,

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<v Speaker 1>but just real quick with bitcoin. Bitcoin hits all the

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<v Speaker 1>attributes of money. So it's extremely portable. I can transfer

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<v Speaker 1>it instantly right from my phone to your phone even

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<v Speaker 1>without electricity. By the way, let me say that, so

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<v Speaker 1>I can. It's extremely portable, it's extremely durable, it's encrypted,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just you know, can't be destroyed. It's extremely divisible.

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<v Speaker 1>You can break it down and do fractions of a penny.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's basically infinitely divisible. Um, it's fungible. One bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>is worth one bitcoin, and it's not assailable or recognizable

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<v Speaker 1>as the US dollar by any means. But it's getting there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's getting there quick. So um, that kind of arounds

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<v Speaker 1>out basically the attributes of money. And now we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about n f T s now that you have a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of that base knowledge. But like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin at least has all of those attributes. Now a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people say, but it doesn't have the privacy,

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<v Speaker 1>But again, privacy isn't one of the attributes of money.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're listening to the markmas Show. We're talking about bitcoin, cryptocurrencies,

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<v Speaker 1>the decentralized Revolution. I wanted to talk about n f

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<v Speaker 1>T s, which we are doing that right now. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a Wall Street Journal article that came out. Uh, n

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<v Speaker 1>f T sales are flatlining. I'm gonna break that down

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<v Speaker 1>for you and more when I get back. So don't

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<v Speaker 1>go away, all right, Welcome back. You're listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>markma Show, and we are talking about bitcoin, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about cryptocurrencies, we're talking about the decentralized revolution. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>each and every week, if you're not tuning in, tuning

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<v Speaker 1>into me, each and every week. Will you certainly should be.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to miss an episode. If you're not driving,

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<v Speaker 1>pull out your phone, set a calendar reminder to be

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<v Speaker 1>here with me at this time on this channel each

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<v Speaker 1>and every week, so you can understand the world as

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<v Speaker 1>it's changing right before our very eyes. Now, like I

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<v Speaker 1>said before the break, I was talking about these n

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<v Speaker 1>f T s. There's a Wall Street Journal article that

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<v Speaker 1>came out that said n f T sales are flatlining.

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<v Speaker 1>They say, is the is the beginning of the end

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<v Speaker 1>of n f T s. Now, Like I said, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been asked lots of times too, why don't I talk

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<v Speaker 1>about n f T s. I have talked about them

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<v Speaker 1>once before, um, and I kind of broke down how

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<v Speaker 1>they were used for manipulation, and part of that is

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<v Speaker 1>just real quickly to go into that is basically, um, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll come back to that. Stay with me. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>back to that. So before the break, I was explaining

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<v Speaker 1>the attributes of money. It had to be portable, divisible, durable, recognizable, sailable,

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<v Speaker 1>and it needs to be fungible. One has to be

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<v Speaker 1>worth one. So bitcoin is fungible. One bitcoin is worth

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<v Speaker 1>one bitcoin. N f T S or not. They're non fungible,

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<v Speaker 1>non fungible token. So that means each token is unique,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a baseball card. You could have to

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey Mantle baseball cards, or two stamps or two you

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<v Speaker 1>know early set you know pre set pre uh gold

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<v Speaker 1>coins for example. And even though they're the same coin,

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<v Speaker 1>the same year, same weight, et cetera, they'd be worth

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<v Speaker 1>different amounts because one might have a little more aware

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<v Speaker 1>one my whatever. Right, so they're non fungible even though

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<v Speaker 1>they're the same. And so these tokens are basically that.

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<v Speaker 1>And right now they're being used for um, collectibles, they're

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<v Speaker 1>using being used for art things like that. I'll break

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<v Speaker 1>that down a little bit more. We'll get into that

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Um, we're seeing like, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>musicians who have fan clubs, for example, starting to issue

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<v Speaker 1>different collectibles in different ways. Right, you can buy a mug,

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<v Speaker 1>you can buy a hat, you can buy a shirt,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, you could buy a token. Right, you could

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<v Speaker 1>buy a digital piece of art a jpeg if you will. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're calling those n f t s and then

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<v Speaker 1>people think, well, now I own this or let's say

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<v Speaker 1>that there's like um from a YouTube video of Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan's you know, getting getting the slam dunk to win

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<v Speaker 1>the game or whatever, and someone could buy that video

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<v Speaker 1>clip and they have an n f T. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>non fungible token says they own it. They own that

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<v Speaker 1>video clip, but that video clips also on YouTube, right

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<v Speaker 1>or I own this U, I own this jpeg, this

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<v Speaker 1>piece of digital art that's on my computer screen right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody else could go just right click and save and

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<v Speaker 1>they could also have that leaves a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>scratching their head, right. There's a meme that was going

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<v Speaker 1>around and I don't know if you've seen these memes

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like a kind of like a black and

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<v Speaker 1>white stick drawing kind of cartoon, and it's like some

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<v Speaker 1>people in the living room at a party and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of people dancing on the dance floor and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a guy standing in the corner over thereby like stereo,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, I wonder if they know that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I own this song. And it's like a funny meme

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like, uh, kind of showing what NFTs are

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like, okay, so he has a hash, he

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<v Speaker 1>has like a record in a blockchain that says he

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<v Speaker 1>owns the song, but everybody else is listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>song dancing to it. So what does his ownership really mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's no different that if I own that clip

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<v Speaker 1>of Michael Jordan's getting that slam dunk. I own it,

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<v Speaker 1>but everybody else has it on their computer they can

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<v Speaker 1>watch it too. So ownership typically implies that it's in

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<v Speaker 1>my possession. Possession is whatever, they say nine tenths of

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<v Speaker 1>the law kind of thing. So if if you had

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<v Speaker 1>a house, but everybody else had it, was had access

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<v Speaker 1>to your house, and you don't have acted to it,

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<v Speaker 1>is it really your house? Right kind of a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that that meme kind of says it all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, hey, do they know that this is? That

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<v Speaker 1>I own this song? And he may own it, but

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else has it. So a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 1>wondering what that is. But I'll break that down a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more Before I do, let's dive into this

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<v Speaker 1>article here real quick. So they said, the Wall Street

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<v Speaker 1>Journal says that the n f T market is collapsing.

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<v Speaker 1>They said, as a statement, they sail the sale of

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<v Speaker 1>non fungible tokens or n f T s failed to

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<v Speaker 1>a daily average of about nineteen thousand this week, a

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<v Speaker 1>decline from a peak of about two hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand in September. According according to a data website

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<v Speaker 1>non Fungible Token so a daily average. So there was

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<v Speaker 1>about a quarter million, two thousand n f T selling

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<v Speaker 1>per day in September and now we're down to nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand a day. It's pretty big. So the number of

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<v Speaker 1>active wallets in the n f T market fell to

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<v Speaker 1>about fourteen thousand last week from a high of nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand in November. So, when you own a cryptocurrency, bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>or any other cryptocurrency, one of the biggest features of

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<v Speaker 1>it is that you can take custody of it yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember possession nine tenths of the law. So one of

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<v Speaker 1>the oldest problems that mankind has had is how do

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<v Speaker 1>I store my property in a way that cannot be stolen?

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<v Speaker 1>And so we have to make we have to make,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, friends, we have to form a village, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to make a kingdom, we have to make a

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<v Speaker 1>country to protect our private property from being stolen by

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else. If I had a bunch of gold, that

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<v Speaker 1>have to you know, build a big vault, higher arm

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<v Speaker 1>armed guards to watch that gold all the time. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>then it'd be very difficult for to move that goal because,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, goal is not portable. However, bitcoins solve

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<v Speaker 1>that problem, and now cryptographically I can secure it online

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<v Speaker 1>and I just have to know my twelve words, my

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<v Speaker 1>backup phrase, and that bitcoin could be accessed from anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>as long as I have access to those twelve words

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<v Speaker 1>that key. I'm not gonna go super deep into that.

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<v Speaker 1>Leave me a comment, let me know if you want

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<v Speaker 1>me to dig in deeper into that part. Specifically, you

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<v Speaker 1>can hit me up on any of the social media

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<v Speaker 1>platforms at one Mark Moss. That's just the number one

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<v Speaker 1>at one Mark Moss on Twitter, on Instagram. I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to hear from you there. But basically, you can take

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<v Speaker 1>custody of these assets yourself mean and you hold the key.

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<v Speaker 1>To explain it real simple, think of it like a

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<v Speaker 1>locker at like a high school or like an airport.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, hey, my locker C nineteen, Go put this

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<v Speaker 1>envelope in there in the C nineteen that's a public address,

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<v Speaker 1>but only I would have the private key that would

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<v Speaker 1>actually let me open up the locker and move the

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<v Speaker 1>contents and so cryptocurrencies are similar, where you have like

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<v Speaker 1>this public address that anybody could have, but then only

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<v Speaker 1>one person has the private key. And so what they're

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<v Speaker 1>saying is the number of active wallets in an n

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<v Speaker 1>f T market fell. So the number of wallets, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of wallets that hold these n f t

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<v Speaker 1>s hold these cryptocurrency tokens, if you will, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I felt eighty eight percent the amount of active wallets

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<v Speaker 1>wallets that are using this um. It says n f

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<v Speaker 1>t s are Bitcoin like digital tokens that act like

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<v Speaker 1>a certificate of ownership that live on a blockchain. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that's a very key piece I'm gonna come back to.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a certificate of ownership. I'm gonna get through

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<v Speaker 1>the through the fundamentals of this of this uh of

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<v Speaker 1>this document here, of this article about is the market crashing,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll get more into this kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>does this mean. It's a digital representation or certificate of ownership.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about that. Then then we'll talk about different

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<v Speaker 1>areas of n f T s, and then we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about maybe what the future is of n f T

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<v Speaker 1>s as well. It says rising interest rates have crushed

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<v Speaker 1>risk risky bets across the financial markets, and n f

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<v Speaker 1>T s are among the most speculative rising interest rates,

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<v Speaker 1>so of course, uh, the Federal Reserve is doing everything

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<v Speaker 1>you can to fight inflation. Inflation, we have prices going

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<v Speaker 1>up like crazy. Eight point five percent was the last

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<v Speaker 1>e P I read that came out. And so of

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<v Speaker 1>course it's like I already said, right, we we saw

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<v Speaker 1>homes go up, used cars go up, steak and milk

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<v Speaker 1>are up, Rents are up on average across the country

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<v Speaker 1>about and so the Phoederal Reserve is acting. They're doing

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<v Speaker 1>something about it. They're raising rates, and so they're saying

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<v Speaker 1>that the assets have been crushed all across the space.

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<v Speaker 1>Since hitting highs in November, the tech heavy NASDAC composit

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<v Speaker 1>has fallen by so the NASDAC Stock Exchange, which has

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<v Speaker 1>most of the tech stocks tech heavy as they call it,

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<v Speaker 1>has fallen twenty three percent since November, and UH, and

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin bitcoins down as well. Bitcoins down about as well

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<v Speaker 1>from that November high. UM. But back to n f

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<v Speaker 1>T s, it says that many n f T owners

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<v Speaker 1>are finding their investments are worse significantly less than when

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<v Speaker 1>they bought them. I wanna break that down. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to break down a couple of well known tweets that

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<v Speaker 1>sold for millions of dollars and then couldn't even sell

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<v Speaker 1>for a few hundred dollars. And then, because I want

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<v Speaker 1>to break down these different categories of n f t s,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna break them down into collectibles, video games, art, metaverse,

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<v Speaker 1>and so much more. Listening to the Mark mos Show,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be right back with more explaining n f

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<v Speaker 1>T s to you, So do not go away, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back. You are listening to the Mark Moa Show,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're talking about bitcoin. We're talking about cryptocurrencies. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the decentralized revolution each and every week, and

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<v Speaker 1>right now we are talking about in f t s,

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<v Speaker 1>which are very very hot subject. One I've been asked

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about a lot. I've stayed away from it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about it one time, mostly because I focus

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<v Speaker 1>on bitcoin. I think bitcoin is the only tool that

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<v Speaker 1>can change the world. Um, it's a it's a technological

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<v Speaker 1>revolution that can free us from the problems that are

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<v Speaker 1>created by the money distortion that we have. Whether I

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<v Speaker 1>can own a stock on the blockchain or whether I

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<v Speaker 1>can own a token to a piece of real estate,

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<v Speaker 1>or I have a collectible that doesn't change the world.

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<v Speaker 1>We have collectibles. I can own a share of a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of real state already today. That's why I focus

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<v Speaker 1>on bitcoin. But I am talking about n f T

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<v Speaker 1>s today because everybody's been asking about it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>saw this article I thought was pretty interesting that Walster

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<v Speaker 1>Journal put out that the n f T sales are flatlining,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said so as already throughout those numbers, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been flatlining. The interest has fallen since the peak in September,

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<v Speaker 1>from ah a daily average of a quarter million tokens

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<v Speaker 1>down to nineteen thousand tokens um. A couple of examples,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an n f T of the first tweet from

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter co founder Jack Dorsey. It's sold in March of

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand twenty one for two point nine million. Now

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, all the tweets are archived. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>go onto my Twitter account at one Mark Moss, I

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<v Speaker 1>should actually do this because I don't even know, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can scroll back and see what my very first

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<v Speaker 1>tweet was on this account. I had a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter accounts before that. I had started in a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of abandoned business accounts and things like that. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not even I'm not even sure what my original very

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<v Speaker 1>first tweet was, and I should go back and take

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<v Speaker 1>a look at that. But the point it is that

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<v Speaker 1>I can go to anybody's feet and I can go

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<v Speaker 1>back and I can see what what they had on

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<v Speaker 1>their feed. Right, they're all tweets. Somebody decided to buy that.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, this guy's name is Sina

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<v Speaker 1>Stavi is the chief executive of a Malaysian based blockchain company,

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<v Speaker 1>Bridge Oracle. He bought it for two point n a million.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to that meme about people dancing at a

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<v Speaker 1>party to a song and the guys in the corner going, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet they don't know I owned this song. So

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<v Speaker 1>this guy bought the tweet for two point nine million,

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<v Speaker 1>But everyone else can go see the tweet. Two. It's

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<v Speaker 1>literally on Twitter, so he owns it. But so what,

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone else can see it, I could copy it

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<v Speaker 1>and paste it, I could save it to my desktop. Two,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a little bit of the ridiculous this year,

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<v Speaker 1>but he says earlier this year, Mr Stavi put the

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<v Speaker 1>n f t up for auction. He didn't receive any

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<v Speaker 1>bids over fourteen thousand, which is actually pretty high because

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<v Speaker 1>last I saw, I think I talked about it before

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<v Speaker 1>was only a few hundred dollars. But either way, he

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<v Speaker 1>paid three million dollars for it. He couldn't get anyone

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<v Speaker 1>to pay more than fourteen thousand for it today, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty big loss. Now he says, Oh, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>as sign the markets to tier and it's just normal fluctuation.

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<v Speaker 1>It could occur in any market. Okay, let's look look,

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<v Speaker 1>let's look at it more. Uh And another n f

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<v Speaker 1>T buyer purchased a Snoop Dogg curated n f T

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<v Speaker 1>titled Doggie Number four to nine two, and he bought

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<v Speaker 1>that in early April of two for about thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. It's basically a jpeg. It's a digital picture

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<v Speaker 1>of an image of a green, skinny astronaut standing on

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<v Speaker 1>what looks like a Hollywood Walk of Fame star. And

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<v Speaker 1>he has it up for auction right now. Remember he paid, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he paid thirty two thousand for it. He's asking twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five million because we bought it for thirty two thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna sell it for twenty five million. That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like hitting the lottery. Could you imagine buying a

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<v Speaker 1>Snoop dogg n F T for thirty two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>selling for twenty five that'd be pretty good. Now, my

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<v Speaker 1>dad taught me when I was a kid that something

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<v Speaker 1>is only worth what someone else is willing to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for it. So you can say it's worth whatever it's worth,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's only worth what someone else is willing to

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<v Speaker 1>pay for it. And according to this auction, the highest

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<v Speaker 1>current bid for this is right now at two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to ten dollars. So he bought it for thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two thou he's hoping to make million and the highest

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<v Speaker 1>bid is two dollars. Now this is this goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to this, Uh, how how do we determine value? Valuation?

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of times you might hear people talking

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<v Speaker 1>about intrinsic value, like they say, bitcoin can't be worth anything,

0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:37.760
<v Speaker 1>there's no intrinsic value. What does that mean, Well, it

0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:41.640
<v Speaker 1>really means nothing. There's no such thing as intrinsic value.

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<v Speaker 1>All value is subjective, and it's subjective based on a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of factors, which is mostly UH, utility and scarcity.

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<v Speaker 1>So the combination of those two. Let me give you

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<v Speaker 1>an example. UH. Let's see if I last night I

0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:04.280
<v Speaker 1>went out to dinner, true story, and UH, on our

0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:07.800
<v Speaker 1>table there was some leftover food and we didn't want it,

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.439
<v Speaker 1>and it got thrown away. If I was on a

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<v Speaker 1>deserted island with a million dollars or a billion dollars

0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:16.600
<v Speaker 1>of cash, a billion dollars of gold, and a billion

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 1>dollars of bitcoin, I had nothing to buy on that island.

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:21.439
<v Speaker 1>There was no boat to get off, no phone to

0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:24.359
<v Speaker 1>call for help, no food, no water, no nothing. None

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<v Speaker 1>of the billion dollars of gold, bitcoin, or or or

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:31.679
<v Speaker 1>cash would all be worthless. Now let's say that UH,

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<v Speaker 1>I was able to get those leftovers that were on

0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:36.480
<v Speaker 1>our table that got thrown away last night. There's a

0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:38.240
<v Speaker 1>little bit of food left over, a little bit of water.

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I would probably give all billion dollars that I had

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:45.399
<v Speaker 1>for that leftover food and water. Now, the food and

0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:46.960
<v Speaker 1>water was worth nothing to me last night I got

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<v Speaker 1>thrown away. But because there was value, I could eat it.

0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:54.080
<v Speaker 1>And of a scarcity, it was the only food around.

0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:55.240
<v Speaker 1>I was going to die if I didn't take it.

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:57.159
<v Speaker 1>I would trade all my all my money for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So all value is subjective. So he may think this

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 1>n f T is worth twenty five million, but according

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 1>to the market, they say it's worth only about two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars. And this is happening more and more and more. Now. UM,

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I know there's probably a lot of people listening to

0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:12.439
<v Speaker 1>this that are saying, ah, yeah, Mark, but I have

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.359
<v Speaker 1>a friend or I read this story, or I know

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:16.120
<v Speaker 1>someone else who bought a n f T for two

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.400
<v Speaker 1>hundred and sold it for thirty two or bought sold

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 1>for twenty million, and and there are those stories. I'm

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 1>definitely not saying that doesn't happen. Um. I've been in

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 1>this cryptocurrency space for about seven years now, I know

0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:31.960
<v Speaker 1>lots of people in this space, and I hear those stories. However, Um,

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:35.080
<v Speaker 1>if we go back to the beginning, there was a

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:38.160
<v Speaker 1>there was a two D twenty five thousand a day,

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:42.840
<v Speaker 1>selling a day a quarter million a day. So for

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<v Speaker 1>every one of those stories that you hear, someone that

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:47.479
<v Speaker 1>bought it for thirty thousand and sold it for two

0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 1>million or whatever. For every one of those, there's probably

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:54.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, a million or millions of people who lost money.

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.520
<v Speaker 1>So doesn't happen. Sure does winning the lottery happen. Sure

0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 1>does getting a forty million dollar contract to go played

0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 1>professional sports happen? Sure all those things happen. The probability

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:06.880
<v Speaker 1>of that happening to you, it just it just diminishes,

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>all right, And I'm gonna explain why here in a second. So, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to break this down a little bit. So

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 1>there's different types of n f T. Remember n f

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 1>T is a very very very broad category, right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>a non fungible token. There's lots of things that are

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<v Speaker 1>non fungible. Like my car. My I'd drive a drive

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 1>a Ford Raptor. Uh, you could find another Ford Raptor

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:32.919
<v Speaker 1>the same year, um, same color, but it might be

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:36.320
<v Speaker 1>worth more or less. My truck may have more scratches.

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 1>My truck maybe taken care of better. It may have

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 1>different mileage. Maybe I drove it on the beach and

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:47.159
<v Speaker 1>there's rust underneath. So even though they're the same truck,

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.080
<v Speaker 1>the same year, the same color, they're non fungible. Everything

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 1>is not. Most things are non fungible. Look around the room,

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 1>like most things that you have are non fungible. So

0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:59.640
<v Speaker 1>you create a token that represents an unfungible item. Of course,

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of them, but they're broken it down

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<v Speaker 1>here kind of by categories. We have collectibles, So collectibles

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:10.199
<v Speaker 1>are avatars, animals, digital assets. This is also these like

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>digital JPEGs, et cetera. Then you have video games. Video

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 1>games is an interesting place that I think there could

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:18.440
<v Speaker 1>be some sort of future for for n f T s.

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about that. Then there's art that's works that

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 1>were made manually or computationally. And then there's the metaverse.

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<v Speaker 1>These are like accessories, real estate, and other items that

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>are used in virtual worlds. And so that's probably you

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<v Speaker 1>know that, and uh that the metaverse and the video

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 1>games are probably the area where they may have some

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 1>some legs to actually build out. But the collectibles is

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 1>where the market is. So we can see through two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand twenty two, we have about a hundred and fifty

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 1>million dollars in this collectible segment. Uh this is sales

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:57.959
<v Speaker 1>volume by category daily. So you have about average about

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred million dollars day of digital assets, but for

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<v Speaker 1>video games you have about I don't know, this is

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 1>about twenty million a day. Art that's made by computers

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>you probably have I don't know, five or ten million

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 1>a day, and metaverse is again, maybe five or ten

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 1>million a day. So the hundred million dollars a day

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>is these collectibles, these avatars, these digital pieces of art.

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>The problem with that is going back to money, collectible

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:32.719
<v Speaker 1>store of value, is that they have to have certain attributes.

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:37.480
<v Speaker 1>One of those is that they must be scarce. And

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:38.919
<v Speaker 1>the problem with n f T s is they have

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<v Speaker 1>become the opposite of scarce. They become overly abundant. You

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the Mark Mo Show, we're talking about n

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 1>f T s. I'll be right back with more. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>go away, all right, welcome back. You're listening to the

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Mark Mass Show. We're talking about bitcoin, cryptocurrencies, that decentralized revolution.

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Of course, each and every week that's what we're talking about.

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>And today we are talking about n f T s,

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:03.680
<v Speaker 1>a topic that I've pretty much stayed away from, but

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I've been asked to talk about quite a bit. And

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:09.400
<v Speaker 1>we're going through this article on the Wall Street Journal

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>called n f T sales are flatlining, and we're kind

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 1>of breaking this down. I went through a bunch of

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>data so far. If you're just joining, and I'm not

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna go ahead and repeat it all, but we just

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 1>say that the average daily sales are down nine from

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:25.399
<v Speaker 1>their peak, which is pretty big. Um. We saw that

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the average the active wallets are down about and we

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>can see that a couple of big prominent n f

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:33.959
<v Speaker 1>T s that got purchased Jack Dorsey tweet for two

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>point nine million and uh a snoop Dogg tweet I'm

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>sorry n f T got purchased. Um. And there the

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 1>stud stoop dog one got purchased for thirty two thousand

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and now it's an auction and it can't sell for

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>two bucks. Um. But I was breaking it down in

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 1>these different areas, so collectibles, video games, art, and into

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the metaverse, and I think you know the I guess

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 1>what I would say about these n f t s.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all is that those actually of money. I

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<v Speaker 1>gave you one of them, and one of the very

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>important ones is scarcity. The US dollars are not scarce.

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>That's a problem. They keep printing more of them, and

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>that's why they keep buying you less and less goods.

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Gold is scarce, and so gold has been a very

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 1>good store of value, a good form of money for

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>five thousand years. Bitcoin is even more scarce. There will

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 1>never be more than twenty one million but n f

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:27.719
<v Speaker 1>T s are not scarce at all. They can make

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 1>as many of them as they want, it says interesting.

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 1>N FT is measured by the number of searches for

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the term peaked in January according to Google Trends, and

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>has roughly fallen. So we can see that the the

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 1>sales have gone down, the number of wallts have gone down,

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 1>and even the interest even the the Google searches. That's

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 1>an important tool if you if you've never looked at

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>that before, you can see what people are searching for.

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>And so it says here the imbalance between supply and

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:57.239
<v Speaker 1>demand is hurting the n f T market. There are

0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>about five n f T s for every buyer. Now,

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 1>going back to bitcoin, there will never be more than

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty one million. There's over fifty million millionaires in the world,

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>over fifty million millionaires. That means there's not even enough

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 1>bitcoin for all the millionaires in the world to own

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>half of one. Pretty scarce here, it's saying there's five

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>n f T s for every buyer. It says at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of April, there have been nine point two

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 1>million n f T sold, which were bought by one

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>point eight million people, so nine millions sold to one

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 1>one eight million people, which is pretty interesting. Um. Now,

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 1>if you go back to art um and I'm not

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>an art collector, and I'm just gonna make this clear.

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Growing up, I had friends that collected baseball cards. I

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 1>never did. I had friends that did stamps or coins,

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I never did. I don't collect art. My brother, true story.

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 1>My brother sells Pokemon cards, right, those are collectibles, and

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>he knows about each different card and why one's worth

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>more than another, and it it just really well with that.

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I've just never done that, and I'm just giving you

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:16.040
<v Speaker 1>that as as a disclaimer. But if you get into

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>the world of baseball cards and Pokemon cards or whatever,

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 1>you start to learn the intricacies the differences there, um,

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and what they'll do is then like, uh, you know whatever,

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>this Babe Ruth baseball card and I don't know anything

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>about it. So forgive me if you're a baseball card person.

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 1>But this Babe Ruth card, for example, they only made

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 1>so many, right, and he's of course dead, and you

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>know he's this legend, and uh, there's only so many,

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>and so if you can get your hands on one

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>of those cards, it's probably worth a lot because of

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 1>the scarcity factor and again still with someone else be

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>worth willing to pay for it. But these n f

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>t s are just like a digital piece of art.

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Someone just makes it and it's like there's no scarcity

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 1>to it. And as you have the board apes or

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the zombies, and there's millions and millions of board apes,

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Now what makes one board ape different from another? Now

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I think we are starting to see where are like

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>certain artists are making things. So for example, a certain

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 1>artists could like make like a hundred sets of Nike

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 1>air Force ones and those could be worth a lot

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 1>of money because he's like a known artist that makes

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>a very limited set. So there are some of that

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 1>and we're starting to see a little bit of that.

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, trying to attach

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>a real world, physical thing to something digital just doesn't

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 1>make sense. And I think that's a big failure. And

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I think anybody thinking that this is the future is

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't really understand the way things work. Because I

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>really like the Mona Lisa. You have the Mona Lisa,

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and then you have all the copies of the Mona Lisa,

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and you can make as many copies of the Mona

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Lisa's you want. They're not worth what the mona Lisa is.

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>But the mona Lisa is still something tangible, alright, So

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 1>think about it like, think about it like this, Um,

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 1>if you had if you have the world, like like

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<v Speaker 1>the real world that you can go walk around in,

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 1>and then you have a map of the world. Right,

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>they're very different things. The map is an information, it's

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 1>some informational construct. The world is a physical object. Right.

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>There's a saying it says the map is not the territory.

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>The map is not the territory. So what that means

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>is it's a map and it resembles the territory. It

0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:20.479
<v Speaker 1>could it's it's probably not completely accurate, but it resembles it.

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 1>It gives you a decent frame of what the world is,

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 1>but it's not the same. Right. A picture of a

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 1>pipe is not a pipe, right, it's a picture of

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:33.719
<v Speaker 1>a pipe, it's not a pipe. And so that is

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>part of the problem. So you have basically you have

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 1>uh this image and you have a record in the

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 1>blockchain that says you own that image, but you don't

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 1>actually have the image, and the two aren't linked together.

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 1>And as I've been saying, anybody could copy that image

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 1>that you have. Right, So that's a big problem. This

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 1>is why other things on the like gold on the

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 1>blockchain don't work either. You can't have a physical object

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>put onto a blockchain. What happens is somebody keeps a

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 1>ledger a blockchain. Uh, someone keeps a database that says

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Mark owns gold. So I have gold, it's black, it's

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 1>backed on the blockchain. But since I can't have the

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<v Speaker 1>golden the blockchain, that someone else holds the gold, and

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<v Speaker 1>someone else keeps the ledger that says I own the gold.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is now I have to trust a third party.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I have to trust that they don't steal my gold,

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<v Speaker 1>that my that my database or my ledger submission doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>get changed something like that. Right, There's no there's no

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<v Speaker 1>permanent relationship to the object itself. It's disconnected, right, So

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 1>n f t s don't change that. The jpeg that

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<v Speaker 1>you own can be lost, it can be corrupted, it

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<v Speaker 1>can be duplicated, it can be hashed, it can be

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<v Speaker 1>sold again, and it happens all the time. Right, you

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<v Speaker 1>own a hash, you own a record of something that's

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<v Speaker 1>not scarce, right, because anybody can copy that that jpeg

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<v Speaker 1>over and over and over. You own a hash that

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<v Speaker 1>says you own it, but it's a hash of something

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<v Speaker 1>that you own that's not scarce that can be recreated. Right,

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 1>you own a garbled up map with no territory, basically

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 1>what you have. But bitcoin fixes this because it it

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:21.360
<v Speaker 1>goes in the opposite direction, right. It starts with information

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 1>and it makes its own reality. Um. It basically takes

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 1>takes something, takes information, and it takes energy and it

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>creates something natively digital, natively digital. So maybe at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>if I, if I hit on this natively digital thing,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe in the world in the future, there's a world

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<v Speaker 1>for items back going back to n f T s

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<v Speaker 1>in the video games. So you know, you play whatever

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>video game. I'm not a video game or either, but

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 1>you play a bunch of video games. You play for

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of hours, and you earn credits, and you earn

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<v Speaker 1>new guns, new weapons, new skins, backpacks, whatever. And instead

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 1>of them being stuck in the game, maybe I could

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<v Speaker 1>I could hold those on my own and then I

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 1>decide don't want to play the game anymore. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>could sell those to somebody else who plays the game.

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<v Speaker 1>That might be one way to do it. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>an n f T in a game could be a

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<v Speaker 1>way to go. Um. Maybe there's a future there, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're not there now, so it'll be interesting to see

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<v Speaker 1>how that goes. UM. But either way, right now, the

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<v Speaker 1>n f T s are taking a massive hit down

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<v Speaker 1>over as I said, as you know, as most cryptocurrencies

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>are right now. Um, but what do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear some feedback on this. Hopefully it

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<v Speaker 1>hit me up on my social media at one Mark Moss.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just the number one. You can find me on Twitter,

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 1>you can find me on Instagram. I'd love to hear

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:38.799
<v Speaker 1>from you and tell me what you think. I know

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people love n f t s and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a freedom maximum, so to each their own. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want people to understand what it is that they're buying.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, full disclaimer, I never bought and sold

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 1>baseball cards or stamps or or coins, and I know

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:56.360
<v Speaker 1>plenty of people did. Gary Vaynerchuk, who you may have

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 1>heard of, he's huge into n f t s, but

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<v Speaker 1>his whole, his whole uh life growing up, that's what

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>he did. He still does. He trades baseball cards, he

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 1>trades stamps, and he goes to garage sales on a

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 1>regular basis, Still looking for these old collectibles. I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't have that specialty information for that. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the problem with with the collectibles. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the intricacies of each one of those, they can

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<v Speaker 1>be very dangerous. That's what I got for you today.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening to the Mark mo Show.