WEBVTT - Not So Fast Episode 3

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not so fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Paps. Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>we are one week away from the NFL season starting. Seahawks, Patriots, NBC,

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<v Speaker 1>status report.

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<v Speaker 2>Status report, plus college football, five days of college football

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<v Speaker 2>starting tomorrow night. Status report, you've got to get focused

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<v Speaker 2>for the season. I'm not going to do the say

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<v Speaker 2>bye to the family thing, but you've got to get

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<v Speaker 2>your subscriptions ready. You've got to get your man cave ready,

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<v Speaker 2>all your TVs, your grill, everything. You've got to get prepared.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll see my family on Tuesdays and Wednesdays unless there's

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<v Speaker 2>a Mac game.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, also, this is the most sleep we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have. Starting next week, we're going to come in

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<v Speaker 1>looking worse than this, actually.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's possible. Football tired is the best tired.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely. All right. So we have one week left. What

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<v Speaker 1>is the one storyline in the NFL that is really

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<v Speaker 1>still on your mind that you haven't figured out?

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<v Speaker 2>If I get one, I would go with the Detroit Lions.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Detroit Lions, two years ago, were almost in

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<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl. Up 24 points at halftime. You're making

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<v Speaker 2>plans for the Super Bowl. They have the same lineup.

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<v Speaker 2>Amon Ross St. Brown, Jared Goff. Gibbs, Panay Sewell, Aiden Hutchinson.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's there, but it feels like they've just cooled or

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<v Speaker 2>the public has cooled on them. No one's saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the Lions' year because I think people got burned

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. I think they're contenders, but everyone's picking, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Caleb Williams, we love Caleb, or Jordan Love, or there's

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<v Speaker 2>new shiny toys in the NFC North. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how contender-ish the Lions are. I still think they are,

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<v Speaker 2>but the public doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what was missing last year? And you're a Bears fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Ben Johnson. They lost Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn,

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<v Speaker 2>their coordinators. Ben Johnson stayed an extra year. He had

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<v Speaker 2>that Washington job a couple years ago and he passed

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<v Speaker 2>on it. And that was that year where you're thinking, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to win it now. Ben Johnson's staying and

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<v Speaker 2>they missed. So Lions are one of the great stories

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<v Speaker 2>or could be one of the great stories in American sports.

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<v Speaker 2>But it feels like it's just getting away from them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they have injuries in their defensive backfield. Brian Branch

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<v Speaker 1>is a big player for them. They always get hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to pick the Lions. I love the Lions.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Jameer Gibbs. And they say hell.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lions are like the Cubs 10 years ago. America

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<v Speaker 2>would get around the Lions. All right, what's your one?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, there's one huge story that is over the whole NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>What version of Patrick Mahomes are we going to see

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<v Speaker 1>this season? Starting week one, plays the Broncos Monday night.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Reid hasn't said he's even going to play yet.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to assume he's out there, but is

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<v Speaker 1>he full strength? The best thing about Patrick Mahomes is

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<v Speaker 1>his improvisation, and all he can do when the pass

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<v Speaker 1>rush gets at him, he will kill you in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter. I don't think we're going to see that

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<v Speaker 1>this year, Paul, and I worry. Can he pick you

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<v Speaker 1>apart from the pocket? Does he have the receivers? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that O-line healthy? There's so many questions with Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 1>yet we don't count them out.

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<v Speaker 2>Never count them out. You said a couple weeks ago

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<v Speaker 2>when we were chatting, you said maybe let Mahomes ease

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<v Speaker 2>in and not play in Week 1 and not push

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<v Speaker 2>it because you don't need Week 1. Let Justin Fields

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<v Speaker 2>see if he can pick off a victory. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's an interesting case. The other thing about the Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 2>what I don't understand is, do they have a killer

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<v Speaker 2>on their team? Do they have that one guy who

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<v Speaker 2>you can't stop?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Chris Jones, though.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Jones on defense. But is Xavier Worthy going to

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<v Speaker 2>be great or just good? Is Rasheed Rice going to

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<v Speaker 2>stay on your roster for 17 games? Because I love

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<v Speaker 2>him on the field. Kenneth Walker III. It's possible they

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<v Speaker 2>transition into not a run-first team, but a run-heavy team.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, they have been especially non-explosive as a

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<v Speaker 1>run game. They never have long runs. So Kenneth Walker

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<v Speaker 1>adds a ton there, takes some pressure off of Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 2>And it also shows their thinking. Because remember a couple

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, they got Isaiah Pacheco out of Rutgers. Seventh-round pick,

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<v Speaker 2>they paid him nothing. He was a nice running back

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<v Speaker 2>for them. They brought Kareem Hunt back. They didn't pay

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<v Speaker 2>him a lot of money. They don't invest in the

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<v Speaker 2>running back position, but they think now, Mahomes is not

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<v Speaker 2>going to run as much. Mahomes is on the other

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<v Speaker 2>side of 30. Let's give him a real running game.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he tours ACL on December 14th. That is

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of time, Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>These days it seems like that's the time block.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Remember Brady tore his ACL sort of

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<v Speaker 1>mid-dynasty for the Patriots, but they had a year where

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't at his top. I say two years really

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<v Speaker 1>on the Chiefs for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Brady in his 30s didn't even need his ACLs.

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<v Speaker 2>He stood back there and got rid of the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't even have an ACL. All right, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>to a little bit of college football. So we talk

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of college football on this show and not

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<v Speaker 2>so fast. Let's get to Arch Manning in Texas. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people like Arch Manning and Texas, not in

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<v Speaker 2>that order, to win the national title. They're definitely in

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<v Speaker 2>the mix. But I'm wondering with Arch Manning, has the

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<v Speaker 2>hype from his freshman year being a Manning family member

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<v Speaker 2>not cooled off but kind of calmed down a little bit?

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<v Speaker 2>There's other people to talk about, Indiana and Miami and Oregon.

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<v Speaker 2>And it feels like he's in the perfect position to

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<v Speaker 2>finish out his college career. He still has two years

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<v Speaker 2>of eligibility, not just one. But what is a successful

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<v Speaker 2>season for Arch in your mind? And I'll give you mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he has to make the playoff.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think he's tied to Steve Sarkeesian, the head coach.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they don't make the playoff, Stark is out,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion. I mean, this is an unbelievable team.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, he had no O-line, no run game, and

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<v Speaker 1>iffy wide receivers. This year, he's got a fixed O-line,

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<v Speaker 1>some injuries there, but he's got Cam Coleman, a wide receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>who's outstanding. Yes. Former Auburn player.

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<v Speaker 2>Great transfer.

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<v Speaker 1>So he had some excuses. Not that we're about excuses,

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<v Speaker 1>but last year, he sort of had to learn the system.

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<v Speaker 1>He played much better in the second half. This year,

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<v Speaker 1>they should be ready to go. And if they're not

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<v Speaker 1>a playoff team, Paul, that's a disaster. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going national title, but I am definitely going college football player.

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<v Speaker 2>And I fell for the bait a little bit last year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think on the Dan Patrick, it was said it's

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<v Speaker 2>Arch Manning versus the field for the Heisman. I got

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<v Speaker 2>all cut up. You know, I kind of look like

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<v Speaker 2>a Manning brother. Cooper's my favorite. But I will say, though,

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<v Speaker 2>that Arch Manning when the Heisman don't care about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Eli didn't win it. Peyton didn't win it. The dad

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<v Speaker 2>didn't win it. Who cares about the Heisman? win a

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<v Speaker 2>national title. Nobody in the family even came close to

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<v Speaker 2>a national title.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's true. For me, you know, I also define

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<v Speaker 1>him as being the number one overall pick. Because Eli

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<v Speaker 1>and Peyton did that. So, to me, it's more about

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<v Speaker 1>his NFL future as well because he's a Manning. You're right.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mannings haven't really gotten to the highest level of

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<v Speaker 1>college football. They have gone number one. And Eli was

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<v Speaker 1>not the best college quarterback. No. He still went number one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>At Ole Miss, they never got close to really doing damage.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at Texas plus 650. I want to do a

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<v Speaker 2>minute on that. At the draft for right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think Arch Manning is third overall pick? Because

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what people think. Third overall quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>How many experts have come on the Dan Patrick Show

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<v Speaker 1>this week and said C.J. Carr is the guy to watch?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Then a lot of people have Dante Moore. I would

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<v Speaker 1>say right now, Paul, it's Arch Manning number one.

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<v Speaker 2>You're staying with it.

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<v Speaker 1>He is tall. He has a big arm. He can run.

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<v Speaker 2>Last name.

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<v Speaker 1>His last name is Manning. And come on, Eli, if

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<v Speaker 1>Eli can go number one, you're telling me Arch can't

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<v Speaker 1>go number one?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it does seem like I've always said that Arch Manning,

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<v Speaker 2>his last name helps him so much. It's like the

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<v Speaker 2>safe pick. We used to do a thing back in

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<v Speaker 2>the old Leisureman days, the bust meter. There's not a possibility,

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<v Speaker 2>at least I think what teams think is that Arch

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<v Speaker 2>Manning cannot be a bust. He will be a good quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>If you look at Eli Manning during the regular season,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a good NFL quarterback, but then he had

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<v Speaker 2>Two playoff runs that made him a legend and got

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<v Speaker 2>him into the Hall of Fame someday.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember last year in the middle of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>Will Leach wrote an article, our old friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>That Arch Manning was college football's first bust. Turned out

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<v Speaker 1>Will was wrong because Arch picked it up tremendously in

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<v Speaker 1>the second half of the season. And I think he

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<v Speaker 1>came out of last year doing just fine.

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<v Speaker 2>And Arch Manning could have gone to other colleges and said,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to start week one, week one of your

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<v Speaker 2>freshman year. But he went to Texas. He liked Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>And they had Quinn Ewers, and they let Quinn Ewers

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<v Speaker 2>have that extra year. Was that the right decision? Who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>But Quinn Ewers held them off for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you write that down? I still have Archie number

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<v Speaker 1>one overall. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I'm going to let that breathe a little bit. Scott, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're rolling on that. Let's stick with a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of college football. One of the games of the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>is Clemson versus LSU. Clemson, I think they're getting 10

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<v Speaker 2>from LSU, and people are focusing on the Lane Kiffin,

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<v Speaker 2>the pros back to LSU, all that stuff that's been

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<v Speaker 2>going on the past month. But this is an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>This is an opportunity for Dabo Sweeney because he's cooled

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<v Speaker 2>off a little bit. Let's hear from him.

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<v Speaker 3>Rarely am I at a loss for words, but Chapel Womack,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a loss of words. I would just say

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of embarrassing. I mean, honestly, it's just embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 6>That that's where we are.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't blame the kids and people trying to take

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<v Speaker 3>advantage of the system. I just think it's embarrassing where

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<v Speaker 3>we are with college football. We've been there for a while,

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<v Speaker 3>all that outside stuff. No pun intended, we just stay

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<v Speaker 3>in our lane here at Clemson.

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<v Speaker 6>Try to.

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<v Speaker 2>That was Coach's joke. Stay in the lane. I almost

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<v Speaker 2>missed that one, Coach. Thanks for explaining. Also to explain,

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<v Speaker 2>he was talking about pros going back to college and

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<v Speaker 2>how We won't have that at Clemson.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Dabo wouldn't even use the transfer portal. You

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<v Speaker 1>think he's going to take a guy who was in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL camp?

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<v Speaker 2>He still has dial-up.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing. This old-school mentality, it's not working, Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>It's cool if you're winning. If you could be a

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<v Speaker 2>throwback and you're winning, everyone's fine with it. But unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>Dabo Sweeney and Clemson, they lost six games last year.

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<v Speaker 2>They were 7-6. From 2015 to 2020... Six seasons, Clemson

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<v Speaker 2>lost seven total regular season games. It's a different era

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<v Speaker 2>for him, and if you don't think he's on the

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<v Speaker 2>hot seat, you're nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, absolutely. And you know what's funny? He is the

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<v Speaker 1>diametric opposite of Lane Kiffin. Lane Kiffin's all new school.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll try anything to win. Dabo's got to do it

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<v Speaker 1>his way. And again, kind of like Nick Saban, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he's going to be able to keep doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think he's going to want to stay

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<v Speaker 1>in this sport if it keeps going this direction.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is an opportunity for him this weekend because

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<v Speaker 2>Davos is kind of off the radar a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>The hot guys are the younger guys. And it's been

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<v Speaker 2>a while since they were in the national title picture.

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<v Speaker 2>He has an opportunity to. throw cold water all over

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<v Speaker 2>the Lane Kiffin LSU story, and it's a 10-point dog.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not 25. That's 10. I just checked. 10 is

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<v Speaker 2>not 25.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, listen, he used to have Deshaun Watson.

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<v Speaker 1>He used to have Trevor Lawrence. He used to have

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<v Speaker 1>five pro receivers on his roster, pro running backs. Clemson

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<v Speaker 1>can't stack talent like that anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a money thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a money thing. Also, programs cool off. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>when we were kids, Nebraska was... unbeatable. Oklahoma was great. Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>Florida State had their run. Yes. I think Clemson's run

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<v Speaker 1>is over. It's a cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless they can pull it off this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. All right, coming up, we have a lot going

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<v Speaker 1>on for the rest of the shows. Chiefs favored in

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<v Speaker 1>AFC West. I said Mahomes may not be ready to

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<v Speaker 1>go week one, but I think they could still not

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<v Speaker 1>only make a noise in AFC West, the entire AFC.

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<v Speaker 1>That's coming up next. Not so fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Warm takes. I don't even know your warm takes today.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been hiding warm takes on me, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Friends don't do that. Friends don't hide warm takes.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they're very warm.

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<v Speaker 2>Not hot, though. Just cozy and warm. Here we go, Pearl.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't get pizza with the boys. Dan and the

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<v Speaker 2>guys are taking all the pizza. But we've got a

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<v Speaker 2>little something for you. This is at Wisconsin Badger Games.

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<v Speaker 2>This is fantastic. This is Badger Bites, Badger Bakes. Baked

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<v Speaker 2>potato bar. They're doing three different baked potatoes. Poutine in

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<v Speaker 2>that one. I love that. A lot of bacon. Heavy, big,

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<v Speaker 2>starchy meals. Nothing says Wisconsin on it. I love that

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<v Speaker 2>more than this.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have to add corn to a baked potato?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you've got plenty of starch with a

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<v Speaker 1>baked potato. I'm going to go against the grain here.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want butter or sour cream. I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>all that fancy stuff on my baked potato.

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<v Speaker 2>You're bougie. You're from the Northeast. You know, people from

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<v Speaker 2>the Midwest. You know, a football game in the Midwest, Wisconsin,

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<v Speaker 2>you have like a sit-down meal as your meal. Like Michigan,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they have meatloaf you can get at this concession.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you eat a baked potato in the stands?

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<v Speaker 2>You get it like this, like a football, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you get a big just like a shovel and just

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<v Speaker 2>hammer it down. You're wearing camo. You're at a Michigan game.

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<v Speaker 2>You're at a Wisconsin game, an Iowa game, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you put it in a helmet like at a

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<v Speaker 1>baseball game?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I like where your head's at.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time for one of America's favorite segments. It's catching

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<v Speaker 2>on all over the country. It's time for warm takes.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing too hot, nice and cozy, just like Wisconsin this

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<v Speaker 2>time of year. I'm going to go first. Warm take.

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<v Speaker 2>The Big Ten this weekend, if you're watching Big Ten

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<v Speaker 2>games on NBC or other, you'll notice when they do replays,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to actually go up to the booth and

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's going to be mic'd up. And the ACC did

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<v Speaker 2>this last year, and it worked out really well. Transparency. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I know this has to do with gambling, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's also becoming entertainment. When you watch those ACC games,

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<v Speaker 2>you see those guys upstairs checking out the thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they go in the booth. And there's always like

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<v Speaker 2>three dudes in black polo shirts that look like IT

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<v Speaker 2>guys standing around with headsets, and they're going over everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're really measuring their words like lawyers because they

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<v Speaker 2>know the entire country is listening, saying, is this two

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<v Speaker 2>feet in, one feet in? Did they complete the process

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<v Speaker 2>of the catch? But it's great for fans. We want transparency.

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<v Speaker 2>And now it's become like an entertainment piece for the games.

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<v Speaker 2>My question is... ACC is doing it. Big Ten is

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<v Speaker 2>doing it. All the college conferences will do this. Transparency

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<v Speaker 2>during the replay. Will the NFL ever do it? Pearl,

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<v Speaker 2>you're the NFL guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think no. They should because it is incredibly entertaining.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see this as well. But the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL is guarded, man. I don't know if they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>I completely agree with you on this one. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL will hold this off as long as they can. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe all the colleges do it, and they'll feel the pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>But the NFL, I don't... Transparency isn't their.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Not their first thing. They don't lead with that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're great at making money. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>They're great at scheduling things and stomping out other sports.

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<v Speaker 2>But transparency, not so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Not so much. Not through the years. Usually, they get caught. Usually,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't reveal.

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<v Speaker 2>You said that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sticking the NFL for my warm take. I'm an

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles fan, and I was excited because GQ did a

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<v Speaker 1>feature on our quarterback, Jalen Hurts, titled... Can anyone decode

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Hurts, the NFL's most cryptic quarterback? Now, I got

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, Paul, people do not love Jalen Hurts

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<v Speaker 1>in Philadelphia. Some do. Some are kind of lukewarm on him.

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<v Speaker 1>The issue is you don't know him. And some people

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<v Speaker 1>want to get to know their athlete before they cheer

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<v Speaker 1>for them. I am not one of those people. I

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<v Speaker 1>go up and down with Jalen Hurts, but it has

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with his personality. I don't care what

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<v Speaker 1>he says in the postgame or in the locker room.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see him play well. Now, last year

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<v Speaker 1>I had some issues with Jalen Hurts. My main issue,

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<v Speaker 1>he would not run. He was running horizontally, not vertically.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a great runner early in his career. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of quarterbacks slow down in that regard. But

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was protecting himself too much, and I

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<v Speaker 1>ripped him for that. Not because I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what TV show he likes. I don't need to know

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<v Speaker 1>my athletes, Paul. In fact, when you think you know

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<v Speaker 1>an athlete, you don't really know him. For example... Deshaun

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<v Speaker 1>Watson was one of the NFL's good guys. Turns out

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<v Speaker 1>that was not true.

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<v Speaker 2>Not so true.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you one thing, Tom Brady. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I knew a Tom Brady when he was playing that

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<v Speaker 1>he was this kind of guy. And then after retirement, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been all over the place. It turns out I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know Tom.

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<v Speaker 2>Brady at all. Yeah, until you said it. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know Jalen Hurts was in GQ. And you think, does

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<v Speaker 2>he want to be a star? But he also wants

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<v Speaker 2>to be guarded and measured. Usually those things don't go together.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he trying to be a mystery guy and just

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<v Speaker 2>do GQ and do some fashion stuff? It's interesting because...

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<v Speaker 2>He won a title for you guys. He was part

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<v Speaker 2>of a title, won a title for the Philadelphia Eagles fans.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think you get the hall pass, but you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to like an athlete to love what they

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<v Speaker 2>do for you. And that might be an example.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's great. If you read the article, you really

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<v Speaker 1>get it because the interviewer asked him direct questions and

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<v Speaker 1>he gives these... Long-winded answers. Cryptic. You know how quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>can do that where they're trying not to say anything?

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<v Speaker 1>I read this about Jalen Hurts, and somehow I knew

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<v Speaker 1>less about the man.

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<v Speaker 2>I read an article and knew less. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>me in high school reading algebra. All right, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>to my next warm take here. Oh, this is good news.

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<v Speaker 2>This is good news.

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<v Speaker 4>L.A.

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<v Speaker 2>Rams owner, and he owns other teams, Stan Kroenke, has

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<v Speaker 2>bought the L.A.

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<v Speaker 1>Angels.

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<v Speaker 2>This is good news. If you're an Angels fan, thank

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<v Speaker 2>your personal God. For the past 17 years, the Angels,

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<v Speaker 2>you know how many times they made the playoffs? One time.

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<v Speaker 2>One for 17. It's like John Starks in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to make the playoffs once out of 17

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<v Speaker 2>times as a baseball team. The LA Angels found a

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<v Speaker 2>way to waste Mike Trout's entire career. They wasted having Otani.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't trade him when they could have or sign

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<v Speaker 2>him when they should have. They wasted Josh Hamilton. They

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<v Speaker 2>wasted Albert Pujols. They had a draft a couple years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at this. I got so many notes. The 2021

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<v Speaker 2>Angels draft. They drafted 20 pitchers and no hitters. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember talking about that and saying that is like baseball malpractice.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to have a balance. Stomping. They're getting stomped

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<v Speaker 2>by the Dodgers every day. This is great news. Stan

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<v Speaker 2>Kroenke spends. Stan Kroenke tries to win. If you're an

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<v Speaker 2>Angels fan, you should have a parade today because you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't had a parade since almost ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yes, L.A.

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<v Speaker 7>Has had parades.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my concern. Now, Stan Kroenke wins everywhere, right? But

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<v Speaker 1>the Angels are a classic second team in a big city. Oh, Clippers.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were always the Clippers, the Jets, the Mets.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they are historic franchises. But will the Angels

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<v Speaker 1>really ever break through when you have the Dodgers in town?

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with what you're saying. You can never take

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<v Speaker 2>over for the Lakers or you can never take over

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<v Speaker 2>for the Dodgers. But you can rent the city for

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of days. If somehow the Angels win the

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<v Speaker 2>World Series or the Clippers win the World Series or

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<v Speaker 2>the Mets win the World Series, It doesn't become a

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<v Speaker 2>Mets town. It doesn't become an Angels town. But you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of rent the place for a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And the Brooklyn Nets. Notice we didn't even talk

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<v Speaker 1>about them.

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<v Speaker 2>You used to live three blocks from there and you

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<v Speaker 2>never went.

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<v Speaker 1>No. Maybe to see the other team. And they're even

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<v Speaker 1>worse now. Okay, for my next warm take, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the Dan Patrick show from today. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a debate going on, and I wanted to jump

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<v Speaker 1>in so bad. It was, who is the best defensive

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<v Speaker 1>duo in NFL history? Lots of great names thrown around.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we have any sound of what they were saying here?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hear from DP.

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<v Speaker 6>There's no wrong answer here.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying, in my opinion, if it's not Ed

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<v Speaker 4>Reed and Ray Lewis, it might be Mel Blunt and

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<v Speaker 4>Mean Joe Green.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Listen, historically, there's so many great ones. Deacon

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<v Speaker 1>Jones and Merlin Olsen, the Purple People Eaters, your Bears

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<v Speaker 1>from 85, which was brought up. But to me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty obvious. It is definitely Reggie White and Jerome Brown

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<v Speaker 1>in Philadelphia. Now, sadly, Jerome Brown passed away mid-career. These

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<v Speaker 1>two guys were unstoppable. Everyone knows about Reggie White. Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to tell you, Jerome Brown was an unstoppable force,

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<v Speaker 1>came out of Miami and He was the best defensive

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<v Speaker 1>tackle of his time. So much like kind of Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Donald and Miles Garrett, you had the best tackle and

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<v Speaker 1>the best defensive end. And that's how I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>see this debate. Best duos should be guys who play

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<v Speaker 1>near each other. I don't want to see a defensive

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<v Speaker 1>end and a cornerback. But to me, there was no

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<v Speaker 1>one better than White and Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm with you because it's a great comp because

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<v Speaker 2>they played next to each other. I went and looked

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<v Speaker 2>it up. The last two years of Jerome Brown's career,

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<v Speaker 2>he was first-team All-Pro. Reggie White was a little younger.

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<v Speaker 2>Or actually, age-wise, they were about the same. Reggie White

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<v Speaker 2>was first-team All-Pro. They're next to each other. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>as a Bears fan watching those two guys and going,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish we had that. I wish we had that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so sad that Jerome Brown passed away. But these

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<v Speaker 2>duos are great. I'm not a big middle linebacker guy

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<v Speaker 2>just like you, but the idea of having Ed Reed

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<v Speaker 2>in anybody would be great for me. But you had

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<v Speaker 2>Ray Lewis on. I think the public will go with

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<v Speaker 2>that too because– Big personality, a lot of success.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that Todd's choice of Carl Mecklenburg and

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<v Speaker 1>Rulon Jones was going to catch on at all?

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<v Speaker 2>That's the most Todd thing ever. It's like me picking J.J.

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<v Speaker 2>Watt and anybody. But Todd going with his team over

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<v Speaker 2>all teams in NFL history is the most Todd thing

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<v Speaker 2>of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, especially a team that did not have a great defense.

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<v Speaker 2>He will fly the flag for Carl Mecklenburg, though.

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<v Speaker 1>That was super fun. I love that kind of debate

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<v Speaker 1>a week away, and I know it got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of reaction as well.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's stay in the AFC West, off Todd's

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<v Speaker 2>AFC West. Let's get into it. How about a little

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<v Speaker 2>NFL preview time? AFC West, we're going... West to east

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<v Speaker 2>as we do on Not So Fast. Not alphabetical order.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll start with the Broncos. Fantastic pass rush. Defensive backs

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<v Speaker 2>are fantastic. Their defense is spotless. They're probably a better

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<v Speaker 2>overall team than the Texans. Broncos, did they overachieve or

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<v Speaker 2>resist the Broncos going forward?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think some of the analytics guys look at

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<v Speaker 1>last year and say they won a lot of close games.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And people tend to revert backwards. They have a tough schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to be honest. I love them.

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<v Speaker 7>Love them.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about a duo. Nick Bonito up front and Patrick Sertain,

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback. That defense is fantastic. I think it can

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<v Speaker 1>carry them. Tough schedule. Bo Nix looks healthy so far

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<v Speaker 1>in camp. I'm thinking possibly making the Broncos my Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl pick, Paul. A little tease there.

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<v Speaker 2>You should do it early. You should pull the Band-Aid

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<v Speaker 2>because I think they were really close and they were

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<v Speaker 2>an injury or two away. Bo Nix is completely healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>They could have been there with, I mean, Drake May.

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<v Speaker 2>Drake May didn't really. I mean, he outplayed them a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit in the regular season, but they had an

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<v Speaker 2>easier schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, that game was in Denver. If Bo

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<v Speaker 1>Nix was there, they're in the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>They're in the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Could they have beaten Seattle? I doubt it. But they

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<v Speaker 1>could have been a Super Bowl team.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to the Chargers. I like O'Marion Hampton. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't play a lot last year. He got hurt for

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<v Speaker 2>the Chargers. But the Chargers last year, Justin Herbert had

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<v Speaker 2>his lowest season in numbers as far as, like, yards, touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>but his quarterback rating was his best. Can you see

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<v Speaker 2>them leaning towards the run and actually supporting the defense?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, everything about the Chargers is Michael McDaniel, the new

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<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator, former Dolphins head coach, and he can do both.

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<v Speaker 1>He can have big explosive plays in passing and big

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<v Speaker 1>run plays. I mean, we talked about this earlier. Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>on paper look amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Every year.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if I can do it, Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>They just always find a way to either get hurt

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<v Speaker 1>or something goes wrong. But on paper, those two tackles,

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<v Speaker 1>Rashawn Slater and Joe Alt, and Justin Herbert being this talented,

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<v Speaker 1>their offense has to be explosive.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm going to throw to the Chiefs for just

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<v Speaker 2>a second. What's more likely, the Chiefs in the AFC

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<v Speaker 2>title game or the Chiefs out of the playoffs?

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs in the AFC title game, to me. I think

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<v Speaker 1>people are discounting the Chiefs way too much. I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone talks about Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen. Have

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<v Speaker 1>those guys beaten Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs? Nope. All

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<v Speaker 1>they have to do is get to the postseason and

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<v Speaker 1>then ride the homes. But there's enough history there to

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<v Speaker 1>know if the Chiefs are in the playoffs, they're dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we will talk about the Raiders. There's the Chiefs schedule. Ooh,

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<v Speaker 2>they got Broncos easy. Not easy, but I would say

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<v Speaker 2>the Colts, that's winnable. Raiders, winnable.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Until you get to the Jets, it's pretty saucy.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to take advantage of that Dolphins-Raiders run because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of problems on that. Seattle's defense and

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<v Speaker 1>twice against Denver's defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Dolphins-Jets is like two extra bye weeks. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>last up, the Raiders. Is this a competitive year for

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<v Speaker 2>the Raiders, or is this a set-up for the future

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<v Speaker 2>year for the Raiders?

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<v Speaker 1>To me, it's all set-up for the future. And the

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<v Speaker 1>debate is, is it better for Mendoza, Fernando Mendoza, to

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<v Speaker 1>play and learn on the job, or do you let

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk Cousins sort of take the hits? I do not

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<v Speaker 1>think they're going to be competitive. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I have them on a mini tank. Even though they're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to get a quarterback, they've got to get

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremiah Smith, the Ohio State wide receiver. Tank for a

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. Or you could trade down and build

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<v Speaker 2>draft picks. That's great. That's our AFC West preview. Coming up. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is fantastic. My guy, Kyle Long, former Bears tough guy, 6'8, 330.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's at CBS Sports running things. Kyle Long joins

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<v Speaker 2>not so fast. Stick around with Paxton Perloff. Your guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Your guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Kyle Long. It's first team, my guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm the third long brother, though. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why I feel that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't look at you and say that.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Papp. Hope you're enjoying our first week on NBC

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Now on Peacock. Now, Paul, we've had some big guests.

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<v Speaker 1>We had Big Cat himself on. But this is by

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<v Speaker 1>far physically our biggest guest coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>Monstrous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, talking about Kyle Long, former All-Pro with

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicago Bears. He's a host on CBS NFL Today.

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<v Speaker 1>Here on behalf of Generation Fine, which we really want

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<v Speaker 1>to get into, Kyle. But first, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm great, you guys. You look fantastic. You sound fantastic.

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<v Speaker 7>I look forward to catching up on all things, football,

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<v Speaker 7>mental health, everything.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let me get into it with you. The

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<v Speaker 2>Rams were a big topic this week. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>put you back in your playing days. Let's say you're 25,

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<v Speaker 2>you're jacked, you're ready to go. You're still drunk. But

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<v Speaker 2>if your coach went up to you and said, you

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<v Speaker 2>either have to face peak Miles Garrett or peak Aaron Donald,

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<v Speaker 2>and you got to choose from a football reason, which

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<v Speaker 2>one would you choose?

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<v Speaker 7>So if the player is going to say, I want

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<v Speaker 7>to go against the guy who plays on the interior

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<v Speaker 7>because you can have your buddies with you. If you

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<v Speaker 7>had to pick your poison, if you're an offensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 7>and you're going up against these two guys, you have

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<v Speaker 7>to choose which, do I want to double the edge

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<v Speaker 7>or do I want to double the inside? Well, if

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<v Speaker 7>you're doubling the edge, you leave a one-on-one for Aaron Donald,

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<v Speaker 7>which is a non-starter in football conversation, right? I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>you're dead on arrival. If you have a tackle who

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<v Speaker 7>is willing to commit to staying inside out and not

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<v Speaker 7>falling for the true-to-life, godlike speed of Miles Garrett, you

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<v Speaker 7>can stay inside out and your quarterback can step up

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<v Speaker 7>in a pocket that's insured with double teams, a la

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<v Speaker 7>the Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, all these guys

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<v Speaker 7>who are creative when things get off schedule. The one

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<v Speaker 7>thing that has to be non-negotiable is center, guard, guard.

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<v Speaker 7>Those guys have to be in lockstep, and you can

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<v Speaker 7>afford to get beat high side as a tackle knowing

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<v Speaker 7>that your quarterback can step up, but if there's something

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<v Speaker 7>in his field of view right in his lap, it's

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<v Speaker 7>a non-starter for an offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle, do you remember going up against any D-line like this?

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<v Speaker 1>Was there a duo like Donald and Garrett that you

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<v Speaker 1>had to worry about or anything comparable?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, there was a number of teams that had tandems,

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<v Speaker 7>and a lot of these groups have tandems, and some

0:25:09.700 --> 0:25:14.260
<v Speaker 7>of them are interior, some of them are exterior, interior, off-ball, on-ball.

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<v Speaker 7>The Packers, when I was in 2015, it was Julius Peppers,

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<v Speaker 7>Clay Matthews. Those two guys could do some special things.

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<v Speaker 7>My rookie year, it was the Bills. It was Mario Williams,

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<v Speaker 7>Marcel Darius, Kyle Williams. I think about number of teams

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<v Speaker 7>that had great guys. The Eagles, Fletcher Cox and all

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<v Speaker 7>of his jerk buddies in Philadelphia who I friggin' hated playing.

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<v Speaker 2>Alright, Kyle, let me go to your Bears for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I talked at the Super Bowl about the

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<v Speaker 2>Bears and how fun of a season it was, but

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<v Speaker 2>when you're on a team where you believe in your

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback can get you out of anything, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>look at Caleb Williams last year, it felt like by

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the season, the Bears.

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<v Speaker 7>What situation Walter White gets in, you end up knowing

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<v Speaker 7>that you're going to be on the edge of your seat,

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<v Speaker 7>a bunch of stuff's going to happen, and he's going

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<v Speaker 7>to sleep in his bed that night. And that's the

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<v Speaker 7>thing with Caleb Williams and the Chicago Bears. They have

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<v Speaker 7>gotten it done in a number of ways, but I

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<v Speaker 7>think the one way that's missing is going into the half,

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<v Speaker 7>going into the locker room. That end of the second quarter,

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<v Speaker 7>there's a lot of points left on the table. That's

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<v Speaker 7>been a point of emphasis. If they can sure that up,

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<v Speaker 7>hopefully there's less one-score ballgames.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle, I have the pro football focus offensive line rankings.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, Broncos. Number two, my Eagles, I might add,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way. You insulted earlier. But the Bears are

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<v Speaker 1>number five.

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<v Speaker 7>I meant it.

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<v Speaker 1>I could tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't upset them.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bears are number five. I was a little surprised

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<v Speaker 1>about that because traditionally, you know, in the last few years,

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't been that high. Do you buy that ranking

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<v Speaker 1>for the Chicago Bears, the top five offensive line?

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<v Speaker 7>I hard buy a top ten. Top five is something,

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<v Speaker 7>let's talk at Thanksgiving and have this conversation. And the

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<v Speaker 7>same thing can be said for your Eagles, because as

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<v Speaker 7>we know, you know, Howie Roseman had to say, hey, Landon,

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<v Speaker 7>16 million is here. You can't go ride the lawnmower

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<v Speaker 7>all day. And Lane Johnson is in year dozen. And,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, the question, question, questions. And then your offensive

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<v Speaker 7>line coach leaves. There's a lot of those situations throughout

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<v Speaker 7>the league. Let's take a look at the Bills, for example.

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<v Speaker 7>The offensive line coach, that was there last year, the

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<v Speaker 7>run game coordinator, Aaron Cromer. He drafted me in 2013.

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<v Speaker 7>He's exceptional. All of his players use the same technique.

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<v Speaker 7>He has a brilliant run scheme. He's gone. How is

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<v Speaker 7>that going to be impacted? Everybody's talking about Joe Brady,

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<v Speaker 7>but what about the biggest group in size and number

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<v Speaker 7>on the damn field? And the same thing goes with Philly.

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<v Speaker 7>They lost their coach in Jeff Stalin as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're preaching to the choir. Perloff and I always talk.

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<v Speaker 2>We're thin guys. We're not big guys like you. But

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<v Speaker 2>we nerd out over offensive line rankings because I don't,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when a team doesn't have an offensive line,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like it's a non-starter. You can't even think of

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<v Speaker 2>your team as a playoff team, as a competitive team.

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<v Speaker 2>If you go back, if you remember when Mahomes a

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<v Speaker 2>couple years ago didn't have the blocking before they brought

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<v Speaker 2>over Tooney, they got roughed up. They had all the

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.070
<v Speaker 2>talent in the world, but they got roughed up because

0:28:09.090 --> 0:28:10.010
<v Speaker 2>they couldn't protect the guy.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I remember standing in the parking lot of Raymond

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<v Speaker 7>James Stadium next to Bill Cower and I looked at

0:28:16.390 --> 0:28:18.629
<v Speaker 7>him and I said, maybe I can go help this guy.

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<v Speaker 7>And then I ended up signing with the Chiefs and

0:28:21.230 --> 0:28:25.190
<v Speaker 7>I ended up breaking my leg. But you're exactly right.

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<v Speaker 7>These things, Drew Brees is unbelievable. Drew Brees doesn't happen

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<v Speaker 7>without Jari Evans, Carl Nix, Aaron Cromer, you know, a

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<v Speaker 7>number of things. So it's got to be a perfect storm.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Kyle, we have a lot more offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>NFL questions. I want to talk about Generation Fine for

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<v Speaker 1>a second. We heard you earlier in the week on

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:48.500
<v Speaker 1>Dan Patrick's show. It was really powerful. Tell us what

0:28:48.540 --> 0:28:49.340
<v Speaker 1>you're doing with that.

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<v Speaker 7>So Generation Fine is just like, in the simplest terms,

0:28:54.300 --> 0:28:57.780
<v Speaker 7>it's an initiative that Johnson &amp; Johnson has started, and

0:28:57.840 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 7>I've partnered with them on this, where we want to

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<v Speaker 7>really push the idea of checking in with yourself and,

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:09.660
<v Speaker 7>you know, with other people. And fine is... been kind

0:29:09.700 --> 0:29:12.180
<v Speaker 7>of the commonplace response. And when you're in the building

0:29:12.220 --> 0:29:13.420
<v Speaker 7>and a coach is like, how are you doing? I'm like,

0:29:13.460 --> 0:29:15.330
<v Speaker 7>I'm good. I'm good. Good is not good.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>And fine is not really fine. And what is what?

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<v Speaker 7>So figuring that out and a great place to start

0:29:22.250 --> 0:29:28.420
<v Speaker 7>is going to generation-fine.com to find tools, resources, information. They even,

0:29:28.540 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 7>you know, can get you in contact with medical professionals. There's,

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:36.710
<v Speaker 7>There's ways to combat depression, anxiety, whatever it is you're

0:29:36.730 --> 0:29:39.710
<v Speaker 7>going through. It's a spectrum. Everybody's dealing with something. If

0:29:39.750 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 7>I were to ask both of you individually, I promise

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 7>you would have something on the tip of your tongue.

0:29:44.300 --> 0:29:47.140
<v Speaker 7>You'd say, you know what? I'm dealing with this right now.

0:29:47.300 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 7>And that's okay.

0:29:49.180 --> 0:29:50.980
<v Speaker 2>And it feels like, like you said, Generation Fine, it

0:29:51.020 --> 0:29:53.130
<v Speaker 2>feels like we're in a different generation for this. Like,

0:29:53.190 --> 0:29:55.230
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you at 24 could have done this

0:29:55.310 --> 0:29:57.630
<v Speaker 2>interview and gone, I don't know, could you have gone

0:29:57.670 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 2>back to the locker room and said, hey, I'm doing

0:29:58.900 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 2>things for a website. I don't know if you at

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 2>24 would have had a website to go to.

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<v Speaker 7>No, you're absolutely right. And I have a unique perspective

0:30:07.110 --> 0:30:09.350
<v Speaker 7>being that I was raised in the house, uh, of

0:30:09.410 --> 0:30:12.490
<v Speaker 7>a football playing caveman from the eighties and nineties. And I,

0:30:12.810 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 7>I shared a, you know, a bathroom with a brother

0:30:15.140 --> 0:30:17.900
<v Speaker 7>who was four years older and a CBA removed from

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:21.380
<v Speaker 7>my career. So as you guys know and understand, these

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:24.370
<v Speaker 7>are different eras. It's like when they look at, uh, uh,

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 7>the soil that goes down a hundred, there's layers to

0:30:27.050 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 7>this thing, you know, and there's bones throughout. Um, and I,

0:30:30.410 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 7>they've seen it all. And I have that perspective, uh,

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 7>My dad always preached a number of things, but one

0:30:41.340 --> 0:30:45.470
<v Speaker 7>of those things that stood out to me was nobody cares.

0:30:45.730 --> 0:30:48.650
<v Speaker 7>In terms of how you feel physically, my ankle hurts.

0:30:48.690 --> 0:30:51.310
<v Speaker 7>I got a finger. Nobody cares. What can you do

0:30:51.350 --> 0:30:54.510
<v Speaker 7>for me? Can you practice? That's the league. The sooner

0:30:54.570 --> 0:30:58.690
<v Speaker 7>you understand that nobody cares, you're going to be helped

0:30:58.770 --> 0:31:01.970
<v Speaker 7>by that. Conversely, you have to understand that a ton

0:31:02.020 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 7>of people care about how you feel mentally and that

0:31:05.660 --> 0:31:09.450
<v Speaker 7>is something that is something you can work on generation

0:31:09.490 --> 0:31:11.110
<v Speaker 7>fine is there it's a platform for.

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<v Speaker 1>It oh that's great thank you kyle so uh your

0:31:13.730 --> 0:31:15.290
<v Speaker 1>dad by the way you guys are now going up

0:31:15.330 --> 0:31:19.270
<v Speaker 1>against each other 12 noon eastern to one o'clock i

0:31:19.310 --> 0:31:21.990
<v Speaker 1>know you've been asked this before but what is uh

0:31:22.090 --> 0:31:24.290
<v Speaker 1>what is your mom going to do is it you

0:31:24.330 --> 0:31:26.710
<v Speaker 1>or your dad i know chris is out there somewhere

0:31:26.750 --> 0:31:30.110
<v Speaker 1>too doing podcasts and things but who gets.

0:31:29.590 --> 0:31:34.110
<v Speaker 7>Chris gets enough attention monday through friday who's on So

0:31:34.150 --> 0:31:37.690
<v Speaker 7>when I played against Chris, I think Mom got one

0:31:37.730 --> 0:31:39.190
<v Speaker 7>of those jerseys that was split down the middle.

0:31:39.210 --> 0:31:39.470
<v Speaker 1>Half and half.

0:31:39.490 --> 0:31:40.010
<v Speaker 2>I remember that.

0:31:40.730 --> 0:31:43.190
<v Speaker 7>So we've got to figure out a really good technician

0:31:43.230 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 7>that can fuse a plasma screen with Fox and CBS.

0:31:46.980 --> 0:31:49.020
<v Speaker 2>Kyle, you've got dough. Your brother's got dough. Your dad's

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 2>got dough. Buy a couple more TVs. Problem solved.

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:56.260
<v Speaker 7>You know what? There's always room for more TVs. I'm

0:31:56.380 --> 0:31:58.420
<v Speaker 7>staring at like five screens in my office.

0:31:58.480 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 2>God bless you.

0:31:59.620 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 7>You know, between the video games and the— all the

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 7>streaming services. There's a bunch of ways to watch, but

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 7>I think, I think mom will have it dialed in.

0:32:07.820 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 7>All right.

0:32:08.220 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 2>We want to nerd out on some offensive line questions

0:32:10.460 --> 0:32:12.860
<v Speaker 2>with you. When you played in the cold in Chicago,

0:32:13.140 --> 0:32:16.590
<v Speaker 2>when it's snowing, a two-part question, do the offensive linemen

0:32:16.810 --> 0:32:18.950
<v Speaker 2>really like playing in the snow? Like they say on

0:32:18.970 --> 0:32:22.910
<v Speaker 2>TV and who decides sleeves or no sleeves captain? How

0:32:22.930 --> 0:32:23.390
<v Speaker 2>does that work?

0:32:25.030 --> 0:32:30.130
<v Speaker 7>Great questions. I would say that The cold weather is absolutely,

0:32:30.190 --> 0:32:36.830
<v Speaker 7>particularly poor footing weather. Weather that evens the playing field

0:32:36.870 --> 0:32:40.130
<v Speaker 7>for everyone is in our advantage as an offense because

0:32:40.190 --> 0:32:42.510
<v Speaker 7>we know the snap count, the direction, where the help's

0:32:42.570 --> 0:32:45.370
<v Speaker 7>coming from, what the end goal is. Defenses are reacting.

0:32:45.430 --> 0:32:50.690
<v Speaker 7>You are less prone to have good reactionary skills on

0:32:50.730 --> 0:32:55.450
<v Speaker 7>a crappy surface. So anything to make Von Miller more human.

0:32:56.260 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 2>And the sleeves?

0:32:57.860 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 7>OG gangsters. And then I got to town and I said,

0:33:02.180 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 7>I did it my rookie year. I did no sleeves.

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:06.620
<v Speaker 7>And then my second year, I said, I do not

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:11.380
<v Speaker 7>care what you or him or him says about that.

0:33:12.020 --> 0:33:14.979
<v Speaker 7>I'm going to wear sleeves and be warm and block people.

0:33:15.420 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 7>You can be a badass and get your hands swiped.

0:33:19.900 --> 0:33:23.300
<v Speaker 2>Now, Kyle, you're 6'6, 330. No one's telling you what

0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 2>to wear. Is that what you're saying?

0:33:24.930 --> 0:33:28.740
<v Speaker 7>You're right. You're right. And I remember having some salty

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:31.470
<v Speaker 7>old veterans that eventually just said, you know what? He's

0:33:31.510 --> 0:33:33.310
<v Speaker 7>got to do what he's got to do. Let him

0:33:33.350 --> 0:33:34.050
<v Speaker 7>do what he's got to do.

0:33:34.330 --> 0:33:36.170
<v Speaker 1>Well, Kyle, I mean, the fans have it harder. We're

0:33:36.210 --> 0:33:38.979
<v Speaker 1>sitting out there in the bleachers. We're not even moving around.

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:41.500
<v Speaker 1>So sometimes when it gets really cool, we're the Warriors.

0:33:41.740 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I have a dumb offensive line question. Is it totally

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>different to block for a left-handed quarterback? I don't think

0:33:46.180 --> 0:33:48.180
<v Speaker 1>you've ever done it, but I've always wondered this. You've

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:50.650
<v Speaker 1>got Tua and Penix down in Atlanta. I like it.

0:33:50.990 --> 0:33:52.250
<v Speaker 1>Does that affect your job?

0:33:52.810 --> 0:33:57.130
<v Speaker 7>It's 100% something you have to be cognizant of. It's

0:33:57.170 --> 0:34:00.330
<v Speaker 7>something that you get lost in in the game. Once

0:34:00.370 --> 0:34:02.570
<v Speaker 7>the game starts rolling, you forget about it. But as

0:34:02.610 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 7>a right guard... I understood that the barrel of the

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:10.859
<v Speaker 7>gun was right over my left shoulder. And if you're

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.740
<v Speaker 7>a sniper, you don't want a wall that's in your teeth.

0:34:14.739 --> 0:34:17.989
<v Speaker 7>You want to have a sure thing in front of you.

0:34:18.050 --> 0:34:20.510
<v Speaker 7>So I took a tremendous amount of pride of being

0:34:20.590 --> 0:34:24.129
<v Speaker 7>that guy. I called it like the doorman, you know,

0:34:24.170 --> 0:34:26.410
<v Speaker 7>the guy who's at the front door. But you'd have

0:34:26.430 --> 0:34:28.700
<v Speaker 7>a different doorman there. You've got a left guard playing doorman.

0:34:28.780 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're the scariest bouncer I've ever seen, Kyle. All right,

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:33.540
<v Speaker 2>last thing in this series of what we like to

0:34:33.580 --> 0:34:36.450
<v Speaker 2>call this Such thing as a dumb question. Perloff and

0:34:36.530 --> 0:34:42.130
<v Speaker 2>I combined are about 380 pounds. Be honest. How long,

0:34:42.170 --> 0:34:43.930
<v Speaker 2>if we jumped you in an alley, would it take

0:34:43.969 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 2>to decimate us? Be honest. Like how many seconds, minutes, hours?

0:34:47.500 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 7>Man, I don't even know. Do you guys have any

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:51.580
<v Speaker 7>background in fighting?

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:52.660
<v Speaker 2>I was an archer.

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 7>I got beat up a couple times. There's no weapons allowed. Okay,

0:34:56.900 --> 0:34:59.219
<v Speaker 7>so you're tough. You've been beat up.

0:35:00.300 --> 0:35:03.720
<v Speaker 1>My approach was let the bullies in high school copy

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:04.380
<v Speaker 1>off my paper.

0:35:04.540 --> 0:35:05.140
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it helped.

0:35:06.270 --> 0:35:10.850
<v Speaker 7>You know what? I was in musicals and drama club

0:35:10.930 --> 0:35:13.690
<v Speaker 7>and everything, and you'd be amazed the amount of practice

0:35:13.770 --> 0:35:16.110
<v Speaker 7>I got on bullies when I was growing up because

0:35:16.170 --> 0:35:19.020
<v Speaker 7>my buddies were getting, you know, they got some crap,

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:23.240
<v Speaker 7>but Uh, I would say less, less than a minute,

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:25.359
<v Speaker 7>but if it makes it more than a minute, I'm

0:35:25.380 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 7>going to be dead because I'll be out of breath.

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:30.930
<v Speaker 7>I just don't have, I'm not in Aaron Donald's shape.

0:35:30.930 --> 0:35:33.089
<v Speaker 2>12 and a half seconds. I take that as a compliment.

0:35:33.430 --> 0:35:36.350
<v Speaker 7>If you bring, if you bring your traditional recurve bow, you,

0:35:36.410 --> 0:35:37.410
<v Speaker 7>you probably got it.

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.140
<v Speaker 1>All right, Kyle, really appreciate you spreading the word about

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.859
<v Speaker 1>mental health. And we're looking forward to the big show

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:47.140
<v Speaker 1>on CBS this fall. I'm watching you over your dad.

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:50.100
<v Speaker 1>You can tell how we met. I've met him many times.

0:35:50.219 --> 0:35:53.910
<v Speaker 1>Nice man, but come on. He's the best.

0:35:54.050 --> 0:35:56.609
<v Speaker 7>And we'll take any and all comers. Come on. It's

0:35:56.610 --> 0:35:59.140
<v Speaker 7>12 o'clock Eastern. Come find us.

0:35:59.410 --> 0:36:01.149
<v Speaker 1>Awesome, Kyle. Thanks so much for the time, buddy.

0:36:01.190 --> 0:36:01.589
<v Speaker 2>Take care, bud.

0:36:01.610 --> 0:36:02.169
<v Speaker 7>All right, y'all.

0:36:02.430 --> 0:36:02.710
<v Speaker 6>Peace.

0:36:03.170 --> 0:36:03.390
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:36:03.770 --> 0:36:04.730
<v Speaker 2>That's fun.

0:36:04.989 --> 0:36:05.450
<v Speaker 6>One minute.

0:36:06.030 --> 0:36:06.450
<v Speaker 1>One minute.

0:36:07.180 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 2>That's a total compliment because he's 6'6, 330. I think

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:12.860
<v Speaker 2>he honestly beat us both up in 15 seconds.

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:16.450
<v Speaker 1>Oh, my God. 15. Get the double digits. I love it.

0:36:16.450 --> 0:36:16.930
<v Speaker 7>All right.

0:36:17.270 --> 0:36:20.209
<v Speaker 1>Coming up next, we have The Clip joined. Something really

0:36:20.230 --> 0:36:22.150
<v Speaker 1>interesting from DP's show today that I think you'll like.

0:36:22.170 --> 0:36:23.510
<v Speaker 1>That's next. Not so fast.

0:36:25.350 --> 0:36:30.780
<v Speaker 2>He would be the perfect Chicago south side, southwest side bouncer. Bald, scary, 6'6,

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:31.220
<v Speaker 2>and jacked.

0:36:31.660 --> 0:36:33.379
<v Speaker 1>Oh, my God. I wouldn't even go into the bar

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 1>if that guy was there.

0:36:39.850 --> 0:36:42.730
<v Speaker 4>I think it's easy to get rid of Tony Romo

0:36:42.790 --> 0:36:43.630
<v Speaker 4>if you're CBS.

0:36:44.370 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 6>Almost, we have an excuse now.

0:36:46.450 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 4>We overpaid for him, and now we have an opportunity

0:36:50.700 --> 0:36:51.900
<v Speaker 4>to move on with J.J.

0:36:51.940 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Watt.

0:36:53.540 --> 0:36:55.320
<v Speaker 6>I hope Tony gets another chance.

0:36:56.540 --> 0:36:58.890
<v Speaker 4>Maybe this is a gap year where he sits out

0:36:59.170 --> 0:37:01.290
<v Speaker 4>and focuses on what's really important.

0:37:03.830 --> 0:37:06.069
<v Speaker 2>Back on Not So Fast, Pabst and Perloff. That was

0:37:06.110 --> 0:37:08.370
<v Speaker 2>Dan Patrick earlier today on the Dan Patrick Talking Network.

0:37:08.810 --> 0:37:11.649
<v Speaker 2>extensively and deeply about the Tony Romo situation. I thought

0:37:11.670 --> 0:37:13.410
<v Speaker 2>that was some of Dan's best work of the week.

0:37:14.830 --> 0:37:18.150
<v Speaker 2>Because like Dan said, we're going to go places and

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:19.529
<v Speaker 2>he knows where he's going to go, but sometimes he

0:37:19.550 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 2>doesn't know where he's exactly going to go until he

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 2>gets into it. And it was fantastic.

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's, there's nobody that can do what Dan

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Patrick can do. You know, obviously the sports stuff, but

0:37:29.020 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 1>just sort of connect with the audience and talk about

0:37:31.100 --> 0:37:33.860
<v Speaker 1>serious stuff and funny stuff. And that was a classic example.

0:37:34.300 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 1>I was glued to that. And it made me think, like, yeah,

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:39.550
<v Speaker 1>Tony Romo, I want to see him get better. I

0:37:39.590 --> 0:37:41.270
<v Speaker 1>want to see him get healthy and get a second chance.

0:37:41.350 --> 0:37:43.690
<v Speaker 2>And Dan's talked about his personal history with pain and

0:37:43.730 --> 0:37:46.109
<v Speaker 2>painkillers and things when he had different issues with pain.

0:37:46.570 --> 0:37:49.029
<v Speaker 2>We learned about it live on the air. I learned

0:37:49.050 --> 0:37:50.430
<v Speaker 2>about it off the air.

0:37:50.450 --> 0:37:51.090
<v Speaker 1>That was incredible.

0:37:51.110 --> 0:37:53.430
<v Speaker 2>You were watching that day. And so I think that's

0:37:53.550 --> 0:37:55.969
<v Speaker 2>one of the things that we don't script our show.

0:37:56.050 --> 0:37:57.990
<v Speaker 2>We barely plan our show on the Dan Patrick Show.

0:37:58.010 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 2>But sometimes when Dan wants to go somewhere, the four

0:38:01.100 --> 0:38:04.170
<v Speaker 2>of us, the Danettes, we'll be like, You shut your

0:38:04.210 --> 0:38:06.150
<v Speaker 2>mouth for two minutes and you just let it go.

0:38:06.190 --> 0:38:07.730
<v Speaker 2>You don't get in his ear. You don't even like,

0:38:07.750 --> 0:38:10.430
<v Speaker 2>it was almost like a pitcher pitching a perfect game.

0:38:10.770 --> 0:38:12.530
<v Speaker 2>You don't want to get in his eyesight. Let him roll.

0:38:12.969 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's different when I started on the Dan

0:38:14.620 --> 0:38:17.100
<v Speaker 1>Patrick show late two thousands, I'm not sure Dan would

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 1>have done that. But then, uh, that day, actually I

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 1>was here, Paul, when Dan talked about what he was

0:38:22.500 --> 0:38:24.859
<v Speaker 1>going through with a shoulder pain and, and all that.

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 1>And I couldn't, I couldn't believe it. I still couldn't

0:38:27.140 --> 0:38:29.490
<v Speaker 1>believe it. And the way he delivered was incredible. That

0:38:29.530 --> 0:38:32.940
<v Speaker 1>was a really great sound. And, uh, Yeah, again, I'm

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:34.060
<v Speaker 1>rooting for Tony Romo now.

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one of our other friends was on the show today,

0:38:36.260 --> 0:38:38.470
<v Speaker 2>Ryan Leaf, our old buddy who's had his own issues.

0:38:38.610 --> 0:38:40.950
<v Speaker 2>But he talked about college football. Ryan's covering college football.

0:38:41.370 --> 0:38:43.270
<v Speaker 2>He said something interesting about how many teams are in

0:38:43.370 --> 0:38:44.870
<v Speaker 2>play for the national title.

0:38:47.410 --> 0:38:50.510
<v Speaker 6>As of right now, I would argue there's many more

0:38:50.590 --> 0:38:51.609
<v Speaker 6>than what we think.

0:38:51.630 --> 0:38:55.509
<v Speaker 4>Because I don't think anybody has any idea what's about

0:38:55.530 --> 0:38:56.470
<v Speaker 4>to trot onto the field.

0:38:56.630 --> 0:38:58.370
<v Speaker 6>A chance to go to the national title. Yes, I

0:38:58.390 --> 0:38:58.690
<v Speaker 6>believe so.

0:39:00.210 --> 0:39:02.390
<v Speaker 1>Wow. I looked at the number 30 team in the

0:39:02.430 --> 0:39:06.009
<v Speaker 1>AP poll, the preseason AP poll, Paul. TCU, so I'm

0:39:06.190 --> 0:39:08.140
<v Speaker 1>saying that's probably not a national title team. This was

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 1>preseason before they lost to North Carolina. But 31, Navy.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:13.500
<v Speaker 2>Oh, we love Navy here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know if they're going to win the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We have Army back there.

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>And 32 is South Carolina, who actually could make a run.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think Ryan's point might be a bigger point

0:39:21.410 --> 0:39:23.830
<v Speaker 2>that says we're in a different era now. If Indiana

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<v Speaker 2>can win... You can't say just these seven or eight teams.

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:29.950
<v Speaker 2>Ten years ago in college football, it was Georgia, Bama, Clemson.

0:39:30.410 --> 0:39:33.190
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame, Ohio State. and a couple others.

0:39:33.570 --> 0:39:35.969
<v Speaker 1>Oh, and the Final Four was always the same four teams.

0:39:36.050 --> 0:39:38.550
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma was always there with Lincoln Riley. They didn't get anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>But I love that, and that makes me think there

0:39:41.370 --> 0:39:43.630
<v Speaker 1>could be another Indiana, and it could be even wilder

0:39:43.670 --> 0:39:44.230
<v Speaker 1>than Indiana.

0:39:44.250 --> 0:39:45.969
<v Speaker 2>All right, time to play a little game. Let's lighten

0:39:45.989 --> 0:39:47.569
<v Speaker 2>it up a little bit. This game, I'm not going

0:39:47.590 --> 0:39:49.570
<v Speaker 2>to give the name out yet, but Andrew, you know

0:39:49.670 --> 0:39:51.990
<v Speaker 2>one of the most popular things to do in sports

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<v Speaker 2>media is to play the Mount Rushmore game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:39:54.530 --> 0:39:58.140
<v Speaker 2>It's really easy. You've got four heads. The fifth head.

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<v Speaker 2>Here it goes. The fifth head on Mount Rushmore.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Innovative.

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:05.819
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, innovative. The graphics department was up all night. So

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<v Speaker 2>here's the topic, Pearl.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:40:07.620 --> 0:40:11.790
<v Speaker 2>The Mount Rushmore, aka the fifth head, the five best

0:40:11.950 --> 0:40:16.589
<v Speaker 2>pass rushers in NFL history. Not defensive ends, not rush ends,

0:40:17.530 --> 0:40:19.969
<v Speaker 2>pass rushers. Now, we're going to go back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. You go first, Paul. Start us off. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is pretty easy. I think it's Lawrence Taylor,

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:27.580
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think there's a lot of question there.

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<v Speaker 2>He's known for it. He's one of the best of

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<v Speaker 2>all time. I'm going Lawrence Taylor.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they had to change the way NFL offenses

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:35.219
<v Speaker 1>work for this guy. The blind side is all about

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:39.510
<v Speaker 1>blocking Lawrence Taylor. He almost murdered several Eagles quarterbacks. No debate.

0:40:39.660 --> 0:40:41.370
<v Speaker 1>That's a good number one. Okay, I'm going to go

0:40:41.390 --> 0:40:44.910
<v Speaker 1>number two. It's got to be my guy, Reggie White.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably the most talented pure defensive end. maybe the most

0:40:48.489 --> 0:40:51.950
<v Speaker 1>talented pass rusher of all time, number two all time

0:40:51.969 --> 0:40:53.950
<v Speaker 1>in sacks. And, you know, he started out in the

0:40:54.010 --> 0:40:56.070
<v Speaker 1>USFL ball. If he'd had his whole career in NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be number one.

0:40:57.090 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 2>And Reggie's prime was 15 years.

0:40:58.640 --> 0:40:59.900
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Minister of defense.

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:00.500
<v Speaker 6>Easy choice.

0:41:00.540 --> 0:41:00.779
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:41:00.940 --> 0:41:02.540
<v Speaker 2>We like to go old school on the show. Show

0:41:02.580 --> 0:41:04.819
<v Speaker 2>our knowledge. Deacon Jones of the Rams. I think they

0:41:04.860 --> 0:41:07.859
<v Speaker 2>invented the stat sack because of him. I mean, he's

0:41:07.900 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 2>old school. He's on the Brady Bunch. That great episode.

0:41:09.860 --> 0:41:11.790
<v Speaker 2>You never forget. So we've got to put him in there.

0:41:12.050 --> 0:41:14.490
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, actually, someone went back and looked at the film.

0:41:14.850 --> 0:41:17.430
<v Speaker 1>He'd be third all-time in sacks if they'd counted it

0:41:17.469 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 1>before 82, and he had the head slap.

0:41:19.620 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Four spot.

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 1>The head slap was awful.

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:22.219
<v Speaker 2>Don't do that to me.

0:41:22.500 --> 0:41:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Bruce Smith has got to be number four. Yes. Obviously,

0:41:25.380 --> 0:41:27.580
<v Speaker 1>the numbers are there. But not only that, he led

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 1>the Bills to four straight Super Bowls. Yes, they lost,

0:41:30.260 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 1>but he was the face of that defense, and you

0:41:32.460 --> 0:41:34.020
<v Speaker 1>knew you had to stop Bruce Smith.

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Pearl, we're bringing out the whiteboards now, and that

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:38.830
<v Speaker 2>means it's business time. If we bring out the whiteboards,

0:41:38.850 --> 0:41:39.390
<v Speaker 2>we're serious.

0:41:39.570 --> 0:41:39.750
<v Speaker 4>Yes.

0:41:39.969 --> 0:41:41.670
<v Speaker 2>The fifth head. You and I.

0:41:41.810 --> 0:41:42.129
<v Speaker 5>Oh, boy.

0:41:42.450 --> 0:41:45.609
<v Speaker 2>It's going sideways already. We have to collaborate. We don't

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:47.799
<v Speaker 2>know who each other are picking. The control room doesn't

0:41:47.820 --> 0:41:50.180
<v Speaker 2>know who we're picking. We don't script it out. The

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 2>fifth best pass rusher of all time.

0:41:52.180 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 1>So we're going to write it down and.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to give me the 3-2-1?

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:58.299
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, then we debate who we should add. If we

0:41:58.340 --> 0:41:59.899
<v Speaker 1>have different names or if we have the same name.

0:42:00.340 --> 0:42:03.140
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about... Here's the people I'm not adding.

0:42:03.219 --> 0:42:03.930
<v Speaker 2>It's not J.J.

0:42:03.969 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Watt.

0:42:05.110 --> 0:42:08.940
<v Speaker 2>It's not Miles Garrett. I'm going to go with... Derek

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:12.540
<v Speaker 2>Thomas of the Chiefs. Pure pass rusher. Taken too soon.

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:14.580
<v Speaker 2>This guy was unstoppable. Derek Thomas.

0:42:14.980 --> 0:42:15.540
<v Speaker 7>Ooh, okay.

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Derek Thomas. I looked long and hard at Michael Strahan.

0:42:19.860 --> 0:42:24.460
<v Speaker 1>Of course, set the single-season sack record. Joyce Peppers, outstanding player.

0:42:25.590 --> 0:42:29.870
<v Speaker 1>You know, Miles Garrett also. Aaron Donald from the interior.

0:42:29.890 --> 0:42:29.969
<v Speaker 6>Sure.

0:42:32.030 --> 0:42:33.910
<v Speaker 1>I went with Derek Thomas. We agree.

0:42:34.290 --> 0:42:37.069
<v Speaker 2>But you know what? That's natural cohesion, as they say

0:42:37.090 --> 0:42:37.489
<v Speaker 2>in the business.

0:42:37.510 --> 0:42:40.370
<v Speaker 1>Dude had seven sacks in a game, Paul. Seven in

0:42:40.510 --> 0:42:43.660
<v Speaker 1>one game. That's like Will Chamberlain scored 100. I think

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:45.620
<v Speaker 1>they said, hey, is anyone going to block this guy?

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 1>He was awesome. I'm a big fan of Derek Thomas.

0:42:49.540 --> 0:42:52.779
<v Speaker 1>Lost him too soon. He's our first fifth head.

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the debut of the fifth head. You could

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:55.900
<v Speaker 2>play at home. I don't think they're going to do

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:57.500
<v Speaker 2>anything different than Mount Rushmore, but it helps with the

0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.189
<v Speaker 2>old Mount Rushmore game. Before we wrap up, real quick,

0:43:00.230 --> 0:43:04.190
<v Speaker 2>this is the rando, a little rando. This is a

0:43:05.050 --> 0:43:07.850
<v Speaker 2>football practice facility, not for a college, but this is

0:43:07.950 --> 0:43:10.770
<v Speaker 2>Rowlett High School. My Eagles have a sick setup down

0:43:10.810 --> 0:43:14.300
<v Speaker 2>there in Rowlett, Texas. Before the game, if you're in Rowlett, Texas,

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:16.980
<v Speaker 2>go to Sammy Lou's Home Cooking, but then stop by

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:19.940
<v Speaker 2>the practice facility. This looks like the program down there.

0:43:21.140 --> 0:43:23.740
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is not what my high school looked like, Paul.

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:26.100
<v Speaker 2>Not at all. Not at all. That's Roland High School.

0:43:26.140 --> 0:43:28.399
<v Speaker 2>Our boys down there, the Eagles, down there, Roland, Texas.

0:43:28.420 --> 0:43:32.090
<v Speaker 2>All right, coming up next, a little constructive criticism, a

0:43:32.110 --> 0:43:34.109
<v Speaker 2>little warm takes. Those are done for the day, but

0:43:34.250 --> 0:43:37.089
<v Speaker 2>also the feel good. Stick around and maybe some Raiders news.

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<v Speaker 6>Good snap, good hold, and the kick is blocked!

0:43:44.750 --> 0:43:50.250
<v Speaker 5>Appalachian State has stunned the college football world! One of

0:43:50.330 --> 0:43:55.379
<v Speaker 5>the greatest upsets in sports history!

0:43:55.450 --> 0:43:56.780
<v Speaker 6>Blocked by Corey Lynch!

0:43:59.940 --> 0:44:04.360
<v Speaker 2>That is 19 years ago, 2007, 1AA, not SCS, 1AA

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Appalachian State at number five, Michigan. That's legendary.

0:44:07.219 --> 0:44:09.649
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's kind of like the football version of Villanova

0:44:09.670 --> 0:44:11.830
<v Speaker 1>beats Georgetown. I know that sounds like hyperbole.

0:44:11.850 --> 0:44:12.330
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's great.

0:44:12.469 --> 0:44:15.089
<v Speaker 1>It was such a game changer. And there have been

0:44:15.130 --> 0:44:18.130
<v Speaker 1>other upsets like that, but Appalachian State's like the original.

0:44:18.370 --> 0:44:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Now, you have some news for us?

0:44:19.469 --> 0:44:22.540
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah. Okay. NFL. Raiders, we knew this was coming.

0:44:22.580 --> 0:44:25.260
<v Speaker 1>They named Kirk Cousins as starter. That means Fernando Mendoza

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 1>will not start. I think the preseason Cousins outplayed Mendoza. Now,

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's a placeholder, but I am

0:44:32.410 --> 0:44:33.549
<v Speaker 1>not surprised at all by this.

0:44:33.710 --> 0:44:35.830
<v Speaker 2>Not surprised. We'll chop this up a lot more tomorrow,

0:44:35.870 --> 0:44:37.950
<v Speaker 2>but I'm curious to see what the depth chart is

0:44:37.969 --> 0:44:40.670
<v Speaker 2>with second and third string and see what happens there.

0:44:41.250 --> 0:44:46.060
<v Speaker 2>First tweet coming in. Jack Silas, top five tailgate foods,

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:48.359
<v Speaker 2>five worst. We could do an episode on this.

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:50.299
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, listen, I don't know if I could

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:52.060
<v Speaker 1>do five off the top of my head. We've done

0:44:52.100 --> 0:44:54.500
<v Speaker 1>a lot of tailgating. When we were on the Nissan

0:44:54.540 --> 0:44:56.500
<v Speaker 1>Heisman Tour, I have one.

0:44:57.020 --> 0:44:57.580
<v Speaker 2>Your one seat?

0:44:57.840 --> 0:44:58.320
<v Speaker 7>Yes.

0:44:58.580 --> 0:45:00.320
<v Speaker 1>If you have someone who can make ribs in the

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:02.140
<v Speaker 1>parking lot, there is nothing better than.

0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 2>A tailgate rib. Because that's a luxury item.

0:45:04.260 --> 0:45:07.089
<v Speaker 1>That's a luxury item, but in the SEC country, they

0:45:07.130 --> 0:45:09.390
<v Speaker 1>know how to do it. That's my number one tailgate.

0:45:09.410 --> 0:45:11.350
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm with you on that. I will say, though,

0:45:11.469 --> 0:45:13.390
<v Speaker 2>if you can make a crock pot of chili and

0:45:13.430 --> 0:45:16.740
<v Speaker 2>have a power source in your truck, or whatever to

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:18.770
<v Speaker 2>heat it back up and a warm crock pot of

0:45:18.810 --> 0:45:21.110
<v Speaker 2>chili that you can just ladle into that's up there

0:45:21.130 --> 0:45:23.190
<v Speaker 2>with me wings we'll get into the others but five

0:45:23.210 --> 0:45:26.779
<v Speaker 2>worse worse tailgate foods any any vegetables yeah we don't

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:28.940
<v Speaker 2>need vegetables leave them at home they're not helping anybody

0:45:30.020 --> 0:45:31.940
<v Speaker 2>we're not here we're not here to go shred fest

0:45:32.100 --> 0:45:34.460
<v Speaker 2>we're here to eat questionable foods and watch some football

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:36.140
<v Speaker 2>in that order yeah i.

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:38.509
<v Speaker 1>Mean that should be a rule in the parking lot

0:45:38.570 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 1>is to say uh No whatever, no vegetables.

0:45:41.660 --> 0:45:43.980
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they should swipe you, and if it brings vegetables,

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:46.240
<v Speaker 2>you should go home. All right, more constructive criticism tomorrow.

0:45:46.550 --> 0:45:48.689
<v Speaker 2>But let's get to a little bit of leftovers. Here's

0:45:48.730 --> 0:45:51.150
<v Speaker 2>a story. Here's the Chiefs. Let's go with the Chiefs here.

0:45:51.550 --> 0:45:55.890
<v Speaker 2>The Chiefs tweeted out this. This is their official roster. Okay,

0:45:57.150 --> 0:46:01.210
<v Speaker 2>Brashard Smith and Ken Walker. Ken Walker, the running back?

0:46:01.230 --> 0:46:01.830
<v Speaker 1>Who's Ken Walker?

0:46:01.870 --> 0:46:02.830
<v Speaker 2>Is that a new guy?

0:46:03.330 --> 0:46:05.930
<v Speaker 1>I know Kenny Skywalker, the former New York Knick.

0:46:06.010 --> 0:46:09.669
<v Speaker 2>Is that former Seahawks running back Kenneth Walker III?

0:46:10.730 --> 0:46:12.610
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is a radical change, Paul.

0:46:12.790 --> 0:46:14.730
<v Speaker 2>You know, I know people lose weight for the next season,

0:46:14.770 --> 0:46:16.719
<v Speaker 2>but he cut stuff off his name to make him

0:46:16.780 --> 0:46:17.620
<v Speaker 2>faster and more lean.

0:46:17.700 --> 0:46:20.239
<v Speaker 1>We just learned how to say Kenneth Walker III. We

0:46:20.300 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>can't say Ken Walker.

0:46:21.620 --> 0:46:24.060
<v Speaker 2>I've been saying Kenneth Walker III for so long. I

0:46:24.100 --> 0:46:26.240
<v Speaker 2>want my money back. I want all the time back

0:46:26.340 --> 0:46:31.480
<v Speaker 2>of Kenneth and the third. Ken Walker... It's streamlined, though.

0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:34.520
<v Speaker 1>No, it is pretty cool, but I don't like that.

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:37.690
<v Speaker 1>Remember the actor Rob McElhenney changed his name to Robbie Mac?

0:46:37.850 --> 0:46:38.669
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so it's a trend.

0:46:39.090 --> 0:46:43.250
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then, of course, the A-chan brothers have said,

0:46:43.270 --> 0:46:45.850
<v Speaker 1>this is how you actually pronounce our name. But this one,

0:46:46.330 --> 0:46:48.090
<v Speaker 1>it just seems like they're trying to confuse us. We

0:46:48.130 --> 0:46:49.989
<v Speaker 1>have enough trouble as is. Right.

0:46:50.050 --> 0:46:51.760
<v Speaker 2>If you do your fantasy football draft and you say,

0:46:51.780 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm taking Ken Walker, you're going to be laughed out

0:46:53.380 --> 0:46:56.180
<v Speaker 2>of the room. But not so fast, it's Ken Walker now.

0:46:56.260 --> 0:46:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're taking Ken Walker, the accountant, not the running back.

0:46:59.460 --> 0:47:01.100
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that sounds like a guy you went to college with,

0:47:01.140 --> 0:47:03.060
<v Speaker 2>Ken Walker, one of your frat brothers. All right, let's

0:47:03.100 --> 0:47:04.919
<v Speaker 2>get to the feel good. Make it feel good before

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:07.010
<v Speaker 2>we wrap up Not So Fast for Wednesday.

0:47:07.910 --> 0:47:08.250
<v Speaker 6>Here we go.

0:47:08.489 --> 0:47:11.460
<v Speaker 2>I love these guys. Bunch of bros in the stands

0:47:11.500 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 2>helping out a little guy.

0:47:12.500 --> 0:47:12.880
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:47:13.219 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 2>They're talking to the center fielder. This is at the

0:47:15.180 --> 0:47:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Twins game. Oh, not so close.

0:47:17.580 --> 0:47:18.540
<v Speaker 1>First throw doesn't make it.

0:47:18.540 --> 0:47:20.760
<v Speaker 2>He's got the old Maurer jersey on for street cred.

0:47:20.780 --> 0:47:24.330
<v Speaker 1>All right. This kid needs a baseball, people.

0:47:25.410 --> 0:47:28.029
<v Speaker 2>Okay, help him out. Get the ball to him. He

0:47:28.050 --> 0:47:29.650
<v Speaker 2>didn't catch it, but he got it, and he got

0:47:29.690 --> 0:47:30.050
<v Speaker 2>the moment.

0:47:30.670 --> 0:47:33.550
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Okay. I don't know if I like this trend, ball.

0:47:33.770 --> 0:47:36.029
<v Speaker 2>This trend is here. If you are a male over

0:47:36.030 --> 0:47:38.489
<v Speaker 2>20 years old and you catch a foul ball or

0:47:38.530 --> 0:47:40.779
<v Speaker 2>a fly ball or a home run, You have.

0:47:40.700 --> 0:47:42.750
<v Speaker 1>To bring a glove to a baseball game. Can a

0:47:42.770 --> 0:47:44.690
<v Speaker 1>full-on adult bring a glove to a baseball game, Paul?

0:47:44.770 --> 0:47:46.870
<v Speaker 2>We'll dive into that tomorrow. That's it for us on

0:47:46.910 --> 0:47:49.650
<v Speaker 2>Not So Fast. Tune in on NBC Sports Now tomorrow.

0:47:49.910 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Nicole Auerbach from NBC Sports joining us tomorrow. And the

0:47:53.020 --> 0:47:56.180
<v Speaker 2>Dan Patrick Show, 9 a.m. every day on NBC Sports Now.

0:47:56.219 --> 0:47:59.100
<v Speaker 2>Peacock and NBCSN. That's it. Catch a ball. Give it

0:47:59.120 --> 0:47:59.779
<v Speaker 2>to a kid. We're done.