1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: When that good Daddy one in the America. My family 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: has never been here, and I'm working on it. My 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: family has never seen me play in high school, never 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: seen me play in college, never seen me play pro. 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Before I play pro, I have never been to a 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: professional football game. My first football game in my life 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: pro was the one I was playing it. I probably 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: lost all feeling in my body into style. I didn't 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: even know what happened. Welcome into the International Lounge. I 10 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: am Rhyming and I'm Garrett Towning. We're missing things off 11 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: we are we are see. You know, We've gotten a 12 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: lot of feedback from our listeners abroad, not domestically, and 13 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: so we said, let's give me an international episode. Let's 14 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: go with the Canadian guy, the African guy. We're bringing 15 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: in the Ravens players from abroad because to satisfy this fans. Yeah, 16 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we have all these people that email the 17 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: show and say I'm from wherever, and usually they're like 18 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: from like the UK, or usually it's Europe whatever, but 19 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: that's okay, and so we're mixing it up. And so 20 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna bring on stefan name but from Africa, from Cameroon, 21 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: and Brent Urban who is Canadian, was grew up just 22 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: outside of Toronto. And before we do that, we do 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: have an email to read. Like I said, we always 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: like to read the emails. So this is at the 25 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: lounge at Ravens on NFL dot net. This email is 26 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: from Colin Waite, and Colin writes, Hey, Ryan, Garrett or 27 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: Garrett and Ryan. He has no favorites here. I was 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: hoping that would be his favorite, but I guess not. 29 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: He says, thanks, you're putting the podcast together. The Ravens 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: are on top of their game when it comes to 31 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: creating content for their fans. Of what you guys are 32 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: doing is no exception. I really appreciate all the hard 33 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: work that goes into your reporting. He does have a suggestion, though, 34 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: and it's long emails, so I just kind of summarized 35 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: the suggestion. Basically, what he says is could you bring 36 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: on some of these nationally known media pundits out there 37 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: and see what they think. So we actually saw this 38 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: email and we said that's a good, good idea, Colin, 39 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: we'll put that to work. We'll take your suggestion. Yes, 40 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: we have Peter King from the MMQB. There's no bigger 41 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: name than Peter King, like he's one of the pre 42 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: eminent you know, sports comments or I don't want to 43 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: insult p f T comments. Peter King is one of 44 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: probably if not the most well known NFL reporter out there. Yeah, 45 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: and we're still we're working on others, Colin, just to 46 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: let you know, we're trying to get mel kyper On 47 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: before the draft. We'd like to get Daniel Jeremiah, former 48 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: Ravens scout to come on and talk. So we're working 49 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: on some other big name media guys, you know, almost 50 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: a big name as us, right, but you know when 51 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: they're further ado. Let's get into our first guest, Uh 52 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: the Canadian? A do you have a good Canadian accent? 53 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: Nice joke? Thanks, here's Brent. We're happy to be joined 54 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: by defensive end Brent Urban a Canadian. Yes, I kind of, 55 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, I sometimes might go on vacation these days. 56 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: I say I'm Canadian, you know, because like you just 57 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: get a warmer reception abroad, you know, I feel like, 58 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: strangely like I have a connection to Brent as Canadian brethren. 59 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: Do you do you do that? Do you find that 60 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: you get a warmer reception elsewhere? Um, i'd say so. 61 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess in Europe in places like that, 62 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: I've heard you know, Americans kind of putting like a 63 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: Canadian patch on their backpack stuff like that. I get 64 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: people to like be warm with them. I mean I 65 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: haven't experienced it firsthand, but I've definitely heard stories like that. So, Brent, 66 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: we wanted to have you on to talk a little football, 67 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: but also talk about you a little bit. And let's 68 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: start with that because that's fun. Where playing football right now, 69 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: So let's talk about you. So you were pretty close 70 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: to becoming a hockey player, like that was legit a 71 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: possibility for you. Can you can you tell us a 72 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: little bit about your hockey background. Yeah, so I kind 73 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: of started late playing hockey. Um, it was obviously very 74 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: popular growing up and stuff like that, but I was 75 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: kind of playing a little bit of everything from you know, 76 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: major main mainly basketball, I'd say, Um, and then I 77 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: kind of decided to play hockey when I was like eleven. 78 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: I'd say, that's like a late start for somebody. It's 79 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: late because people started skating and playing hockey at like 80 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: six or seven in Canada usually, So UM just started 81 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: playing and you know, because of my size and I 82 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: was doing fairly well. I really moved up in levels, 83 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: like I don't know, it's like three years it took 84 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: me to kind of get to the highest level and locally, um, 85 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: which is you know, it's a hockey hotbed hotbed and 86 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: like hockey is obviously huge there. So um, you know, 87 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: from there, I went to like the basically the second 88 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: levels Double A, the top of the Triple A. So 89 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: I went from the lowest Double A team to the 90 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: high the best Triple A team basically almost in Canada. 91 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: I'd say, like we'd when like we play a hundred 92 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: games this season, and when like ninety five of them 93 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, so we were really good when you're 94 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: fifteen years old. So I played on that team from 95 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: when I was twelve to maybe six team okay, yeah, 96 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: and we won like all ontarios and obviously did really well. 97 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: Um we had probably what maybe like five or six 98 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: guys drafted in the NHL from that team, probably three 99 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: or four currently playing in the NHL. So yeah, we 100 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: were a great team. And I was kind of I 101 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: kind of had to decide whether to take, you know, 102 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,119 Speaker 1: what route to take basically, and um, it was tough 103 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: kind of going from I go straight from football practice 104 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: after school. My dad would drive me like forty five 105 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 1: minutes away to the suburbs it's like North Toronto to play, 106 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, And it was just taxing a lot, obviously. 107 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: So it's like once I got to eleventh grade, He's like, 108 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: all you need to decide, because it was it was insane, 109 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: so he he kind of made me decide, And um, 110 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: the prior summer I went to a bunch of like 111 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: football camps in the States, trying to like drum up interests. 112 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: He kind of you know where I could take it. 113 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: And when I got back to school that fall, I 114 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: got a ton of letters stuff like that, and you know, 115 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: it seemed like football be a good route as far 116 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 1: as getting like a scholarship and stuff like that. So, um, 117 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, just decided to go with football. Hockey is 118 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: you know, my size is obviously helpful in hockey, But 119 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: is it because you've gotta be the biggest guy out there? 120 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's not. It's honestly not that helpful. 121 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: It is. Sometimes we're having a longer reach where I 122 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: can get the puck off guys, but you know I 123 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: have smaller guys like kind of going under me. Taking 124 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: the pocket. I imagine literally going between your legs exactly, 125 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: and like I remember my coaches to be like, you know, 126 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: you need to be more aggressive and stuff like that. 127 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: So I'd go out, I'd hit somebody and get a 128 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: penalty instantly, you know what I mean. So it was 129 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: kind of like I was too big for the game 130 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: almost where you know, my skill set definitely lent itself 131 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: towards you know, football, and you know, I'm you know, 132 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 1: my height and weight and all that kind of stuff. 133 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't see many hockey players that are 134 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: like six ft six, six ft seven, I mean any 135 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: in the NHL at the sad size. So there's a 136 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: Dano char He's like six seven six eight, but he's 137 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: like he's like a rarity. You know, there's really not 138 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: many guys like that. And I love how you know that, 139 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: like tall hockey players. Yeah, well yeah, exactly when I 140 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: was growing up, I was like, all right, let me 141 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: see who I need to like base my game off. 142 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: There's like three guys that are like similar heights. So 143 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: uh yeah, I mean there's definitely not and there's a 144 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, my skill set land itself towards football, and 145 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, I thought I could take it farther. And 146 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, I love football growing up to it. Just 147 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: I think I waited too much to play football early, 148 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: so I'll wait until high school to start playing. So so, yeah, 149 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: I didn't your your hockey coach like want you to 150 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: become like a gun. Like if you become a goon 151 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: and just going out there and fought everybody on the ice, 152 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: you probably could have made it to anything. Yeah, I see. 153 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: That's the thing is, you know we're bigger guys, they 154 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: kind of they won't give you as fair as a 155 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: shot really where it's like, you know, he's bigging can 156 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: be the intimidator type of thing where where you know, 157 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: even if the guy will be skilled, they're gonna try 158 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: to get them to fight and like get into that 159 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: kind of And you know, I don't think i'd want 160 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: to be just like a guy you said on the 161 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: ice to go fight like that's like all the ice 162 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: time I get in the game. Had a lot less 163 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: teeth right now, Yeah, exactly. He started looking at all 164 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: those pro hockey guys. I have no teeth, but I 165 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: don't want there. No, I think I'm okay wearing a 166 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: cage and ivan my face protective. Did you get any 167 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: knocked out? No, I didn't because I played. I stopped 168 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: playing kind of right before we were allowed to go 169 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: to like a visor. We would still wear like the 170 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: full face cage. Yeah, so I was. I was close 171 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 1: to having the probably loose teeth, but I just missed that. Yeah. 172 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: How do you pronounce your your hometown in Ontario? I 173 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: was trying to say this earlier. Yeah, it's it's Mississauga, 174 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: Mississauga alright, so this is shout out to all those 175 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: in Mississauga. Podcast. We have more people internationally who listened 176 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: to the pod in Baltimore. I know there's like a 177 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: there's a Toronto or something Facebook group where I think 178 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: I met a guy. He worked at like this newer 179 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: aerostore in Toronto, and he like tried to get me 180 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: to fall and they actually had a big group and 181 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: they'll they'll come down to games and they'll have like 182 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: their Canadian flag and stuff, and I'll say what's up 183 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: to them and stuff. So yeah, there's a there's a 184 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: little following up there for sure. Didn't you get drafted 185 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: to the CFL like before you were drafted into the NFL. Yeah, 186 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: so they're allowed to draft you after four years of 187 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: college basically, so they kind of whether you reach it 188 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: or not, they'll just draft you. You know. So after 189 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: my red shirt junior year, they they're like, I was 190 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: like studying for an exam and they called me and 191 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, you know, like we drafted you. It 192 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: was Hamilton Tiger Cats. It was like, I think the 193 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: beginning of the second round. They're like, yeah, we draft you, 194 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: Like we understand you want to like play your senior 195 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: year and like give the nflow shot and all that 196 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, but we're always here, you know, if 197 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: we need you. They have your rights in case like 198 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: the NFL thing doesn't work. Yeah, so I think they 199 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if they still have my rights. I 200 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: think it's for like four or five years or something. 201 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was kind of funny, but it was 202 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: like a possibility. Like was it even on your radar 203 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 1: that that was like Canadian draft? Did? I mean, I 204 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: was like checking up with it a bit, but I 205 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: didn't know like when they exactly the draft was. So 206 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: I was like, it's right during an exam time where 207 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm like studying and all that, and they gave me 208 00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: a call and I was like a Canadian number and 209 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: is like, oh, it's probably for the all right. I 210 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it's a nice being validated for sure, 211 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: But you know, obviously NFL is my end goal, and 212 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: you know I wasn't gonna just forego my senior year 213 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: and play, right. So you remember I met you for 214 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: the first time at the Senior Bowl and they have 215 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: like the media night or whatever. It was like the 216 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: airplane hangar. You remember this, Oh yeah, yeah, bread pudding 217 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: that good, like southern home cooking. I really don't get 218 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: too much Canadian. My Canadian roots are coming out exactly. 219 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: That's how they say it up there. But I remember 220 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: like when I met you and like I'm like looking 221 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: straight up, I'm like, I really hope we draft this 222 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: guy is freaking huge. And so you become a fourth 223 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: round pick of US. And then just like after that point, 224 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: like everything's great and all that, but you still had 225 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: a college injury you had to shake off at the beginning, 226 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: didn't you, Like A yeah, so I had my senior year. 227 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: I had a high ankle sprain right in the middle 228 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: of the season. Um, and they were kind of like, 229 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, take a month off, and you know, it 230 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: never really it got like kind of better, but it 231 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: was just you know, it was my senior year and 232 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: they're like, you know, you're not going to injure it further, 233 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: so you just like tape it up a ton and 234 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: try to play. So I played my last two games, 235 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: and then in the off season like all right, take 236 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: two or three months off to like see that it's healed. 237 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: Wasn't healing, and then the Senior Bowls coming up, and 238 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: I literally wasn't even training because my because my ankle. 239 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: I didn't want to make it like inflamed before the 240 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. So the goal was to kind of just 241 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: get through as much as a Senior Bowl as possible 242 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: before like really hurt and then gets and then get 243 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: surgery right after, just because the timing wasn't great. So 244 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: I had to get surgery after I made it through 245 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: like two practices and I'm like, you know, I don't 246 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: feel good. I don't want to put like you know, 247 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: bad bad tape out there really when there's no needs. 248 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: So got surgery, showed up to the combine on crutches, 249 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: and then I was healthy by training camp. But that 250 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, lower the excitement for me, like 251 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: heading into the draft. I assume with teams and stuffing, 252 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: like why are you on crutches like you were just 253 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: as the Senior Bowl type of thing, right, So that 254 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: definitely hurt me. But you know, once I strugged that off, 255 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: you know, I felt good in camp and stuff that 256 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: I got injured again obviously in camp, right, yeah, it 257 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: was in camp. It was probably like halfway through training camp, 258 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: I'd say. Yeah. So, yeah, tough injury to start off 259 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: on obviously, Um, you know, but it's you know, it 260 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 1: was a good It kind of helped me to like 261 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: get the mental side of everything, be like comfortable, you know, 262 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: in the facility and see like how guys prepare like 263 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So mentally it was good. And 264 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, obviously when you're injured, you have more time 265 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: to to kind of train and stuff like that than guys. 266 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: You know, during the season, we're not going to train 267 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: as hard. So I was able to at least like 268 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: maximize my my abilities and areas I was allowed to 269 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: train and basically, so you know, it was tough obviously, 270 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: but you know, I definitely tried to make the best 271 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: of it. So then the next year you're like you 272 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: work your way back and you're excited and get to 273 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: training camp and you take your SEP. Yeah, then I 274 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: You're like, I can't get it was Yeah. Then I was, yeah, 275 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: it was rough man, it was a freak injury. I 276 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: just kind of put my hand out there and I 277 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: was like, really, I tore my by SEP doing that, 278 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: Like I didn't even think it was anything at the time, 279 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: and you know, yeah, another injury. Um, And you know, 280 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: I just kind of took it like the same same 281 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: way I took my first year, where you know, it's 282 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: not really something you can control, but I'm gonna try to, 283 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, get as strong and fast as I can. 284 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: Like in other areas where I was able to work 285 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: at least I could work on my legs coming off 286 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: of an a c L injury where you know, my 287 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: right side may not be as strong, so I could 288 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: kind of get that balanced out. And then you know, 289 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: by SEP isn't as isn't as huge as an injury 290 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: as an a c L, so I could use it 291 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: to kind of further rehab my a c L and 292 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: get back there. Um, and thankfully had the opportunity to 293 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: kind of get back that season, which was huge. It 294 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: was a huge you know, confidence boost And did that 295 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: mean a lot to you with it because they can 296 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: only use that spot on one guy exactly. Yeah, and 297 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: I really hadn't even played in a game yet, so 298 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: it kind of Yeah, it kind of showed, you know, 299 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: how much they believe in me, and you know, like 300 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: how you know how much potential they thought I had, 301 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: And so that was kind of good, you know, after 302 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: getting you know, beat down for like two years in 303 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: a row, to really kind of get that boost was 304 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: was great And obviously got some good experience there and 305 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: really kind of helped me get going to last season, 306 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, feeling probably the best I have since being 307 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: a pro. Right, so we want to talk about your 308 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: first game back from the biceps. You blocked the kick six. Yeah, 309 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: you were the guy who blocked it, so that which 310 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: was pretty awesome. So first tell us a story that 311 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: I got a follow up question after that. Sure, Um, yeah, 312 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: So kind of going into it, I was always on 313 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: the field goal block team, like because of my height 314 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: and everything like that. I knew going to the game, 315 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna play a lot of defensive snaps. Really, 316 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: They're just gonna try to get me into the hang 317 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: of it, and you know, he's my he's my way 318 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: back in. And uh so I was obviously, you know, 319 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: for two years like waiting on the sidelines, I was 320 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: like so eager to do something, you know. So you know, 321 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: I just on every opportunity I was on the field, 322 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: you know, I was like pressing trying to do something, 323 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, the field Gold was rolling up, 324 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, they were about to kind of seal the game, 325 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: and and I was like, you know, this could be 326 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: like a great opportunity to do something. I remember Catherine 327 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: Lewis Moore was like, but you gotta go out and 328 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: block this, like you can do like this will be 329 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: this will like change everything if you go do this. 330 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: And I was like, I know, I'm about to go 331 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: block this type of thing. And so yeah, I just 332 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: I go out there and I'm beside Chris Canty and 333 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: Lawrence Guy, you know, and they're they've been they've been 334 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: great on field goal block all year. And I kind 335 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: of knew i'd get a chance to get in there 336 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: and try to use my length to my advantage, and 337 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: I just you know, they were able to kind of 338 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: get the the blockers off me kind of thing where 339 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: it kind of opened up a little bit and I 340 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: saw I could kind of get in get into the 341 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: gap and just you know, put my hand up and 342 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: then it hit my hand and I was like, oh man, 343 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: Like you know, it was obviously super gratifying and just 344 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: you know, Will Hill picked it up and you know, 345 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: he was taking down the sideline. I was like, wow, 346 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: we really was happening right now outside of the thing, 347 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: right and uh yeah, you know it. You know, he 348 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: scored the touchdown and we won the game. So it 349 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: was great feeling. And for all that to kind of, 350 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, all the heartache and you know, everything like 351 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: that to culminate in in that moment, you know, it 352 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: felt great and you know, really helped keep my confidence 353 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: back up to you know where it was. And you know, 354 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: it was a great moment for sure. Now we we 355 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: all thought that the ball hit your arm where you 356 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: had torn your biceps, right like, because I interviewed you 357 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: want to feel after the game, and I remember you're 358 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: so excited. It was like like you said, it was 359 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: just as crazy moment because it looks like the Browns 360 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: might win the game. And then not only do you 361 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: block the kick, then Will returns it just like pan 362 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: ammonium and I remember interviewing you and you're like, yeah, 363 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: hit hit my arm like a magical story. I had 364 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: like no idea. I was just like still like processing, 365 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: like what just happened type of thing. So I thought 366 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: it hit that arm, but then I looked back and 367 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: feeling it's like, oh, yeah, it actually didn't hit that. 368 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: I probably lost all feeling of my body and just stop. 369 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: She didn't even know what happened, like whatever. All the 370 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: stories are already written, the national stories and hitting that 371 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: arm retraction that So you still you still wear the 372 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: arm brace, the big old armbrace. Here's the question. Do 373 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: you wear it because it looks awesome as intimidating or 374 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: do you actually still need to wear it? Um? I 375 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: mean I I kind of like to look at the 376 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: same time. You know, it feels like a little more 377 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: stable and stuff like that. It kind of makes my 378 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: arm feel like a lot bigger than it actually is, 379 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: which is nice. I'm gonna start wearing armbraces. I feel 380 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: like I have some muscle. Yeah, I lose a little 381 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: flexibility where I'm like still designing if I want to 382 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: wear it this next season. But yeah, you know, it's 383 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: just something where it was like kind of comforting coming 384 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: off that. You know, I knew it kind of kept 385 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: it a little more stable and stuff. You J. J. 386 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: Watt Gronk. You know, it's kind of like the big 387 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: white guy thing you guys all were. I have like 388 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: the bulkiest one, I think where it's like maybe it's 389 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: a little more intimidating. J. J. Watt is like the smaller, 390 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: like more like sporty one. So it's hard to say. 391 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: It's kinda yeah, it's kind of you know, we kind 392 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: of are in our own lanes where we're all doing well, 393 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: so we also want to talk to you. And part 394 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: of the reason why we brought you on is because 395 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: you're kind of in line for a bigger role next year. 396 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: You know, with Lawrence guy heading to New England. You know, 397 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: we're looking for starting d N for the most part, 398 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: and you certainly could be that guy coming off and 399 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: played all sixteen games last year two sacks. I mean, 400 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: you're in line. Just what what is your mentality kind 401 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: of seeing Lawrence leave in in the position that opens up? Yeah, 402 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: you know I'm going to next season. You know that's 403 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: my goal. I'm you know, I've all sites set on 404 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: that I'm going to be the starter, and I'm gonna, 405 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: you know, work as hard as possible to do that. 406 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: You know, I think if I'm able to make the 407 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: jump I did from I guess my second year to 408 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: third year, you know, that kind of amount of jump 409 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: going into this next year, I think, you know, I'll 410 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: be well set up to do that. And you know, 411 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: I think during the season, you know, I had flashes. 412 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: Obviously I didn't play as much as I wanted to, 413 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: but I think, you know, per play, I was successful, 414 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,239 Speaker 1: and I feel like if I have a larger role, 415 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: I'll really be able to show what I can do. 416 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: Um And so you know, that's that's my goal. That's 417 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: literally what I'm working on, working towards every day. And 418 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 1: you know that's pretty much that in goal. You know, 419 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: that's that's what I want to do. I'm I want 420 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: to be the starter and I'm gonna, you know, try 421 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: my best to make sure I am. It's it's you 422 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: and CAFUSI is kind of to be in that competition 423 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: and their ground pick from last year. Two massive dudes, 424 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: like two big dudes, both kind of in there right now. 425 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Confus is in kind of still rehabbing, so 426 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: sure you get to talk to him a lot about too. 427 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: It's interesting case he kind of has a similar path 428 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: to you, to you in the sense that he got 429 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: hurt in training camp and ended I missaid you know, 430 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: the entire she's what do you think you have to 431 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: do to win the job? Like, is there something that 432 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: you're like, if I do this, then I will get 433 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: that job. Honestly, it's just showing like a noticeable improvement 434 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: from last year. You know, there was there was times 435 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: where I felt like my consistency from game to game 436 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: kind of slipped. But you know, if I stay consistent 437 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: in what I do and you know, make sure there's 438 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: no weakness in my game, Um, yeah, I say consistency 439 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: is really the biggest thing. You know, where I was 440 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: last year, I was kind of in and out constant. 441 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: I didn't really get a feel for the for the 442 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: games I was in. I know it's not really an excuse, 443 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: but I feel like if I'm able to be more 444 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: consistent play to play, regardless of you know, when I'm 445 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: in or anything like that, I think, you know, that 446 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: will be enough to really show that I can beat 447 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: the starting d N for the Baltimore Ravens next year, Right, 448 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a running back, he says. You know, 449 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: I get stronger as the game goes on. You gotta 450 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: feed me the right. Yeah, you're kind of the running 451 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: back of the defensil one there we got to run. Yeah, 452 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: you gotta explain before we let you go. This tattoo. 453 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: You have a pretty intense sleeve going on with like 454 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: a little faroh guy, a little this is that is big? Yeah, no, 455 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: it's it's it took me so long, like I'm literally 456 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: done with tattoos forever. How long that it took me 457 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: four knows five sessions of up to eight hours, So 458 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: it took it took like it was a quick bath 459 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: on that that forty hours. I don't I don't even know. 460 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: I honestly lose count. Just go in there and just 461 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: sit and be like, please and this just end. I mean, 462 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm happy with it. You're already committed at that point. 463 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: I gotta finish the job. I didn't want to get 464 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: finish the whole sleeve, but it was. It was definitely 465 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: painful and a grueling, like long process. Why the left 466 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: arm just the basketball thing, don't first the shooting arm? Yeah? 467 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: For some isn't I always liked the look of like 468 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: the left arm sleep. I have no idea why, but 469 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, it just turned out that way, and you know, 470 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,479 Speaker 1: I'm happy with how it turned out. But I think 471 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: I'm done with tattoos from it's like fifty to sixty 472 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: hours of income arm. But we'll get a picture of 473 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: it and we'll post it. Since this is a podcast 474 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: and there we can actually see the test. We'll get 475 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: a picture and we'll post him when we put the 476 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: podcast out. The idea there. Yeah, yeah, so Brent Irban, 477 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: thank you so much money. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Thanks 478 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: agetting to Brent for joining us. Uh. He's somebody that 479 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: I love. His energy. He's his excitement like he's someone 480 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: it really his energy sounds like not much energy, right. 481 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: That guy has a lot of energy. Like he sounds 482 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: like a cross between the surfer. He sounds like a 483 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: surfer boy. But he's on ice. He's definitely is not 484 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: a low energy person. When you sit here, you talk 485 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: to him, he's not. He's I'm just saying like his 486 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: voice is like energy guy. I'm just telling him that 487 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: you called him low energy. It's a surfer guy. He's 488 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: laid back, he's chill. That's how described better Urban. He's 489 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: not like super high energy guy. He's got a good energy. 490 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: I like brend Urban. But you know, anyway, it was 491 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: a good interview. It was a good interview energy. So 492 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: now now moving on to my guy, My guy who 493 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: I wrote. If you haven't checked this out, good background information. 494 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: I wrote a big feature on him last year when 495 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: he had just he was competing to make the team. 496 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: He hadn't even made the team yet as an undrafted 497 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: rookie free agent. I heard about his story. Uh so 498 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: go back and check that out. This is stefan name. 499 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: But and you just got back from Cameroon from home. Yeah, 500 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: I'm back home Camera West Africa. That's right, So I 501 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about that. How how the trip goes? 502 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: It was that your first time back home in like 503 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: a long time. It was my second time in nine years? Question? 504 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: Yeah second nine? Yeares no wonder. My mom was crying 505 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: and like, especially when I was leaving, it was harder 506 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: for her than when I got in there. When I 507 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: die in there, you know, your mom, everybody is happy 508 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: to see you. It's more of a joy than cry 509 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: because everybody is happy that Hey, he's still you're still 510 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: living basically, but you know that everything is fine, and 511 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: you know, you get to see hi to everybody in 512 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: terms of direct family and my mom, my dad, my brother, 513 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: and my sister, and see a couple of friends in 514 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: town for those who are left because most of them also, 515 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: you know, we we have grown up. Everybody's going on 516 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: their own way and go and on part. But my 517 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: family was my main concern and it was nice to 518 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: see all of them. So, just if people aren't familiar 519 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: with your story, you grew up in Cameroon and West Africa, 520 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: and then you moved here when you went to college. 521 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: Is that correct? I moved here and went to and 522 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: went to finish high school first. Okay, so you finished 523 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: high school here, then went to University of Colorado and 524 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: then something with their events. Right, Well, you originally came 525 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: thinking you were going to be a basketball player. Yeah. 526 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: So he was u C l a king for your cousin. Yeah, 527 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: but he played for he played for the Clippers, now right, Yeah, 528 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: he played for u C. And he kind of like 529 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: opened the door for people like me, and you know, 530 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: probably it's because of all here. So they came over 531 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: and they said, you know, this guy is pretty good. Bestball. 532 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: This this name by kid. He can play a little bit. 533 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: It's kind of big. It looks like the skinny, But 534 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: I was tall. I was getting taller and taller every day. 535 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: I grew a little bit, like close to three inches 536 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: in the US. Wow. That's that's a pretty significant amount, 537 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: especially when he said it's literally I was getting taller 538 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: and taller every day. It's not an exaggeration. Literally every 539 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: day about an inch. Yeah. So when you go back, 540 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: is it you know, is it difficult? Do you feel 541 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: like things have changed? Is it hard to go back 542 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: knowing that at the end of that trip you're going 543 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: to have to leave and not see them for a 544 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: couple of years. Yeah, it's always difficult because you see 545 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: the family, right, that's the best part. You see the 546 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: family and you're hanging out. But then when that time 547 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: where you know I'm leaving in two days or in 548 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: the day kicks in, then your thought process changes a 549 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: little bit because at the same time, when you're having 550 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: a good time with your family for a long time, 551 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: like I have, you know, you don't want to leave, 552 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: you you want to stay, You want to you know, 553 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 1: you want to help out in the house. Whenever you're 554 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: as much as you can. You you want to hang 555 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: out with your brother and your sister and talk about 556 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: like when I get there, they want to know highs America, like, 557 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: you know, because there's this I will say this hype 558 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: about America that you know, it's like this, you know 559 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: like that, So when I get there, they want to 560 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: know all about it. You know, they didn't want me 561 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: to see how the street, like do they have these 562 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: things like we have here, Like you know they cook this? 563 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: Did they cook that? And you're spending nights and nights 564 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: trying to explain it to your sister and stuff like 565 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: and they had oh wow. You know, it's like so 566 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: it's kind of difficult that time to live because you 567 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: know those conversations are not going to be around anymore. 568 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: And your mom is especially mom, because females are I'm 569 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: not trying to stereotype or anything, but you know, moms 570 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: are always a little bit more emotional than dad, you know. 571 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: So it's like, my mom is crying. You see watch 572 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: your mom cry. You want to cry, but you gotta 573 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: play cool. So it's like, but then when you take 574 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: the plane and you get back here, you know, you 575 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: still miss home, but you also enjoy the fact that 576 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: you know, God was able to send you there and 577 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: bring you back with that any I don't know with 578 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: any Yeah, any complication. What did you tell them about America? Like, 579 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: how did you explain American Africa? Yeah, in terms of 580 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: because my mom wanted to know who was cooking for me. 581 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: That's a typical mom right there. Yeah. I was like, 582 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: no I could. It's just like, I'm sure it's not 583 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: it doesn't taste like African food, And I'm like, yeah, 584 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: it's not. African food is different because back home, our 585 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: food has a lot more veggies in it, and here 586 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: and even here I still haven't got used to meet 587 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: because I'm not a big meat fan. Yeah, so it's 588 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: like I have to tell her I eat a lot 589 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: of fish, and she's all right, what would you like 590 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: to eat? And then I tell her and then that's 591 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 1: all she's making. Every time? Was the meal? What did 592 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: you request you get him? Yeah? My my first meal 593 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: was the mak Yeah what's that? I don't think you 594 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't know? Oh no, I don't want to know. Now 595 00:28:54,520 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: there's this like roots of it's not cassava, it's not 596 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: young there's this route that you gotta we gotta peel 597 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: it first, brush it and put it in a plastic 598 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: bag and cook it and then cook the sauce separately. 599 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: And the sauce usually tend to have a lot of 600 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: like exotic stuff, and they're like, you know, good fish, 601 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: Like I like my Carol, the fish my Carol. Yeah, 602 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: and we have it for a lot back home. That's 603 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: what I like. So it's like when I get there, 604 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: it's like, wow, I'm home. You know. I want to 605 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: eat all the my care as possible. We can re 606 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: live on the ocean, so you get the fresh you know. 607 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: So it's like and then I went to the do 608 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: is what they call beater leafs. Yeah, really really good. 609 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: Then my for meat, I usually eat the cow legs, Ye, 610 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: cow leg because I don't like the red meat part 611 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: of it. The cow legs is pretty much all tendant, 612 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: so it's called the white meat because there's no blood 613 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: that releast you don't see any red meeting there. Yeah. Interesting, 614 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: So it's like I love that, you know, he told me, 615 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: like elephant, Yeah, but you read the news. Yeah, they're endangered. Man. 616 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: You can't be doing it like when you're growing when 617 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: you were growing up, it's over at that time. It's 618 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: completely gone because you know, which is good because you 619 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: want to protect those that are live, because people are 620 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: trying to kill it every day for ivory. Yeah, so 621 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: the government then I agree with it. And I'm in 622 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: the city. It's not like somebody's going to bring me 623 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: some elephant. So it's like the elephant me is when 624 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: you go way way way in the village over there 625 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: or in the not part of camera right right, yeah, sugarcane. Yeah, 626 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: I even brought some pictures. I actually brought like two 627 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: over here, and I was showing one of my friends 628 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: like how to chew it because she didn't know how 629 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: to chew it. And I have a friend also from 630 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: camerl and that came yesterday to take his part of 631 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: what our brow say. It's like all gone, damn. I 632 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: was going to get some of that. Actual sugar is 633 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: the best, man, the best source of energy when you're 634 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: in Africa, because people walk long distances and sugar cans, 635 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: like you know what it is, it sugar, So it's 636 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: like people use it for energy glickals, right, So people 637 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: use it to walk around and they just chew on 638 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: it because you know, it's like it's like gum. You're 639 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: chew and you try it the way you chew and 640 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: you ty, so it's like really really good. You could 641 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: have brought some for the whole team, chew it before 642 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: a game because it's all natural. Yeah, that's what I'm 643 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: talking about. This is a new business idea that we 644 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: have to get some of that bring it over here 645 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: and start her own business. That would be nice, sugar. 646 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: It goes straight to the blood. So in your family, 647 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: are you as anyone else and you family come over 648 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: to America, You're the only one. I'm the only one 649 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: because I mean, I don't like to say because when 650 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: I say it sounds like you you're trying to look 651 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: for somebody to give you help or anything like that. No. 652 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: We My point is we grew up in a very 653 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: very poor family. It wasn't expected for someone like me 654 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: to come to America. That was not even I mean, 655 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: it wasn't my dream because I always visioned myself like that. 656 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: But like in terms of family, we didn't have that 657 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: kind of money where we will say, oh, we will 658 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: send you to go to school in America. So it 659 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: was never like that. Therefore, my family never had that 660 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: money where they could say, oh, let's go visit sty Fan, 661 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: like let's pay for a flight ticket and or visit. 662 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: And also with the immigration, the way it works is 663 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: you got to show that I have to show some 664 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: type of resources that I have certain amount of money 665 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: and being to take care of my family when they 666 00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: get here. And in college, I never had that. You 667 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: playing n C where you have to only get bagel 668 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: with that cream cheese, it was like, so it was 669 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: it was a little weird. So I never had the 670 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: money or anything like that. We tryout one time for 671 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: my dad, they say no because we didn't have a 672 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: sufficient amount of money in my account. And then the 673 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: second time my dad broke his legs so he couldn't come. Yeah, 674 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: so it's like, but now my family has never been here, 675 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: and I'm working on it too. I'm working on at 676 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: least for a visit. You know, my family has never 677 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: seen me play in high school, never seen me play 678 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: in college, never seen me play bro So it's like, yeah, 679 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: I would love I would love to bring them out 680 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: here for like a game or so so they can 681 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: see a little bit what American football is about. Because 682 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: when I talked about it, my mom thinks it's Rugby, Yeah, 683 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: she said. Even when I went home because I didn't 684 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: have any video else, I was like, this is and 685 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 1: I didn't want to show her the hitting parts. It's 686 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: going to get out of her chest, you know, she like, 687 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: I was, I don't think she's ready for this fire. 688 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: It's crazy. I mean, just think about it, like for 689 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: when the time comes or hopefully you get the whole 690 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: family out and you bring them to a game. Not 691 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: only is it going to be the first experience of 692 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: kind of seeing the other side of the world, seeing America, 693 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: but it's also seeing the game. You know, like that's 694 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: going to be an eye opening that's eye opening. And 695 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: the beauty about it is the fact that you are 696 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: around the fans that are live fans, because it's something 697 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: about watching the game on TV where you don't hear 698 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: the noise, you don't hear happiness, you know. So it's 699 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: like maybe like I feel like in her heart even 700 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: if the hit, if you you're taking a hit and 701 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: your fans are around her and be like oh, like 702 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: you know, things like that, it's kind of like calm 703 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: people down on there be like oh wow, this is nice, 704 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, it's fun. Like me too, I have 705 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: before I played pro. I have never been to a 706 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: professional football game. My first football game in my life 707 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: pro was the one I was playing it against the Panthers, 708 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: right the preseason game, the preseason game. I have never 709 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: been to a pro football game. So it's unreal. So 710 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: unfortunately you missed. You made the team as an undrafted 711 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: rookie last year, but then went on I R for 712 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: the entire season, so you didn't get to play outside 713 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: of the preseason. But this year, you're healthy. Now you're 714 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: walking around looking good, running already, running already, and now 715 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: there's a vacancy at right tackle with Rick Wagner signed 716 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: to Detroit and Gartt. You didn't notice, but I was 717 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: just walking upstairs, and we're walking up and I think 718 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: that this guy, he might have a chance to play 719 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: right tackle, is what I'm saying. You might have a chance. 720 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: So what do you think, step on, what do you 721 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: think of that opportunity? Nothing, It's a great opportunity. Is 722 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: just not only for me, for my family, for the 723 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: Ravens organization, because I didnt end of the day. You know, 724 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: it's all about competition. There's maybe three or all of 725 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: us competing for that spot, and um, you know, based 726 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: on where I come from. My love competition, you know, 727 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: made the best man win. I hope it's me. You know, 728 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try to put it on anybody out there, 729 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: but I mnna give everything that I got every single 730 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: play so that I can be the starting right tackle. 731 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: So I'm not really worry about that pub because I 732 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: know the work that I will put in and that 733 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: I'm putting in right now and you know, hopefully with 734 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: God grace um the next right tackle. How much better 735 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: do you feel like you are as a football player 736 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: now as opposed to you know, when you arrived at 737 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 1: the University Colorado for example, No wait wait, it's like 738 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: night and days like because when I got there, I 739 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: was a defensive end and sophomore year going in the 740 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: middle of a game. I will never forget it that 741 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: I was playing against Fresno State from defensive mental right 742 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: tackle spot like because the right tackle that hurt or whatever, 743 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: and they look at me, go in another you never 744 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 1: played on the offensive line. I never played, And then 745 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: the next thing I know, they started teaching me how 746 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: to play a little bit. But I was only there 747 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: for round block and other things. So it's like I 748 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: feel way much better because he here with the Raven organization. 749 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm focusing on right tackle. In college, I went from 750 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: defensive end to right tackle to left tackle, so I 751 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: never really played the same position consistently. Every time when 752 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: I got a little better, they will flip me, Oh, 753 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: he's getting better, let's do here. He can handle it. 754 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: And you know, so that's kind of screw it a 755 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: little bit with me. And now when I only have 756 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: to focus on one spot, right tackle, I think, you know, 757 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 1: I can give everything like that just for that position, 758 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: with having toward you about anything else or any changes. 759 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 1: So I'm fine with that. Do you think it really 760 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 1: helps you too? Because you were raw? You know, you 761 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: didn't start It's like you grew up and played football 762 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: your entire life, and you don't start playing until high 763 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: school and you know, playing defense in college, and so 764 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: you've only been playing on the offensive line for what 765 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: four years years? You know, So like that's pretty you 766 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: know when you look at it and compared to what 767 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: a lot of these other guys in the league, their situations, 768 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 1: they've maybe ten years, twelve years. Uh, I will I 769 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: will thank God for that. In terms of physical ability, Jens, 770 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: that something that I cannot. You cannot see somebody how 771 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: to be six foot seven twenty. So that's outside, you know. 772 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: But now what about me? I like to walk hard 773 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: everything I do. I work hard to be where I 774 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: am because I always considered myself like somebody that wasn't 775 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: born with talent. I have to walk harder to get 776 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: to where somebody else with a talent get, you know. 777 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, some people are 778 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 1: born with the talent and it works well for them, 779 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 1: and some people I want with what I called work ethic. 780 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: Like me, my work ethic lead me to the same 781 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: pat So it's like I don't really worry about like 782 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 1: how many years people all the people have played, or 783 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: how many years I played, because if you look at that, 784 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: you will always be behind. It will be like, well, 785 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 1: I'm trying to catch now. I'm not trying to catch 786 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: up to anybody. I'm here to take over. That's just 787 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: the way it is. And you know, made the best 788 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: man win when it comes to the starting job, and 789 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 1: that's just how I look at it. There's no excuses 790 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: for me. I'm not gonna see here and pound my 791 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: chest and anything like that. I came here. Most people 792 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: didn't expect me to make it where I made it, 793 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, so I was like people with all his role, 794 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,280 Speaker 1: no technique. Then go to you know, God put people 795 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: on my path that would like coach cast to you, 796 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: coach hobs, you know that we're able to tell me 797 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: you can do this, you know. And I took it 798 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: from there and never looked back and yeah, yeah, right nice. 799 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: Well before we let you go, I gotta ask one 800 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: question because this was speaking a coach cast the first 801 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: time he ever told us about you. Comes into our office. 802 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: He goes, you, guys got to talk to my boy name. 803 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,919 Speaker 1: You got to talk to name. But he wouldn't stop 804 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: badgress about how we had talked to you. We're like, 805 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna talk TOHI, We're gonna talk to 806 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 1: him because he talked to a bit. Have you talked 807 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: to go? He goes, this dude killed a lion. I 808 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: told him to not say that. I never told him, 809 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: you know what. He likes to tell tall tales. I 810 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: was like, wait, what, I killed a lion? And he 811 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: will say in the meetings room till the guys. The 812 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: guys would just turn around and look at me, and 813 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, you see everybody is looking at you, guys, 814 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 1: I just want to I'm just look forward to everybody's 815 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 1: eyes that are looking on you. Now, I was like, 816 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 1: please stop it. But he of the stuff. And that's 817 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: what I like about him because he knows how to 818 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: joke around and he knows when it's time to go. 819 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: It's time to go. There's no joking that we just 820 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: go on the person. But I think that was a 821 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: way for him to make people feel comfortable in the 822 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: meeting room, you know, because you know, football, it's a 823 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: game where everybody comes from different background so it's like 824 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: you gotta find a way to have a common ground, 825 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: and that was a way for him. I wasn't the 826 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: only one he was making fun of, you know. It 827 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: was just kind of bringing the room together, you know. Right, Yeah, 828 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,399 Speaker 1: well you're going to kill a lot of defensive ends 829 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: this year, I hope. So that sounds pretty pretty good 830 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 1: and hope. So that's you know, I'm ready fun name, 831 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: Thank you buddy, appreciate your time. Yeah all right, well 832 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: thanks to Stefan for joining us. And also you're gonna 833 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: say he's low energy. Also was yeah, I would say, yeah, 834 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: I also agree those two guys something international you know, 835 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: they're just chill, they're just hanging out. I like them, 836 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: so um, I really appreciate their time. And look, come 837 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: this fall in the season, they could absolutely be in 838 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: the starting lineup exactly. There are two important names to 839 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: keep an eye on. And training camp for sure. In 840 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: the thick of competitions there's opening spots. Now, all things 841 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: can change, but uh, but right now they look like 842 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna they could have big roles for sure. Sometimes 843 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 1: when players leave, it's because teams are confident in who 844 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: they have in the in the background. I mean a 845 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, Michael war left and then who 846 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: ended up becoming the starting right tackle That was Rick 847 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: wag Ravens have a long history of guys doing it. 848 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: And so maybe Laurence Sky leaves b and urban steps 849 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: Rick Wagner leaves, maybe stuff on name lost steps into 850 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: that spot. We'll see how it all plays out. Yeah, 851 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: for sure, I hope the best for both of them. 852 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 1: So thank you for listening. As always, you can reach 853 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 1: us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. 854 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 1: We need some more emails people, all right, it's kind 855 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: of drying up a little bit. And what happened to 856 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: those audio ones I liked when they recorded the audio 857 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: questions and stuff, So send those your way. It's really easy. 858 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: Get on your iPhone, just pull up the mic at 859 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: whatever it is and send us that because we we 860 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: will definitely play it as long as halfway decent. It's 861 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: gonna be someone that's gonna be decent. Just to let 862 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: you know, there will not be a podcast next week. 863 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: We have a one week hiatus and we'll be back 864 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: right after that with some awesome guests and uh, of 865 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: course are always witty conversation, nothing better. So thanks for 866 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: listening and I have a great week. We'll talk to 867 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 1: you guys soon.