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Speaker 1: you know, kickoff schemes, stuff like that, kick return, all

427
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Speaker 1: other stuff. So that's just something I knew i'd have

428
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 1: to learn. So I said, you know, I definitely want

429
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Speaker 1: to get that in now, so when I get the

430
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 1: next level, I'll be ready. Well, I say it's the

431
00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 1: theme here too, justin because last week I saw you

432
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 1: last person I ought to feel with Belvin. Yeah, today,

433
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,159
Speaker 1: same thing. All the media rushes over to Philip and

434
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 1: coachingly at the press conferences. Team makes us the field,

435
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,480
Speaker 1: You and Melvin the last two the field. Um. It's

436
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 1: the little things I think that it seems to have

437
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 1: been instilled that you really from a from a young age. Yeah,

438
00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 1: it's all about work. That's how you get to this point. Um.

439
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 1: And when you get to this point, you know, all

440
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 1: all of this is you turn that up more. Um.

441
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 1: So let's just work harder. Um. And obviously Melvin's a

442
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,879
Speaker 1: pro bowler, just had an unbelievable year last year. Um,

443
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 1: and he's still last one out out there and that's

444
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 1: the reason he got to that point. So I'm just

445
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 1: trying to learn from him. And has it been working

446
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 1: with him so far? It's been great. You know, he's

447
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 1: another big tank. Yeah, both big ten guys for sure. Um.

448
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,239
Speaker 1: But you know he's he's great. He's a great mentor. Um.

449
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,719
Speaker 1: You know he's he's been talking to us, giving us advice, tips, everything. Um.

450
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to do that. So that's he's a

451
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 1: good guy overall. Obviously a great football player and someone

452
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm definitely trying to learn from you know, I just

453
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, if we want to be what

454
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 1: we want to be, UM, we got to put a

455
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 1: little bit extra in UM. So you know, I know

456
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 1: they'll be up for it, and you know it comes

457
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 1: with a lot, you know, trying to make the team

458
00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 1: and everything like that. So just putting them in the position,

459
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,400
Speaker 1: you know, to be successful. Another guy in that backfield

460
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 1: is Austin Eckler, and he was in a similar position

461
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 1: that you were in this year. Yeah, being a you know,

462
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent making a mark in training camp,

463
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 1: preseason and carving out a role on this football team.

464
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 1: It seems like you have a nice balance of the

465
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 1: vet in Melvin and a guy that was in your

466
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: position last year. Yeah, definitely. I think Austin, you know,

467
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: he's a he's a great example of just working, you know,

468
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,120
Speaker 1: to get where you are. That's all he did last

469
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 1: year was his work, and he did most of it

470
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 1: on special teams, which is where I feel like I

471
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: can learn fro him a lot, just because he made

472
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 1: his mark on especial teams. That's how he made this team. Yeah.

473
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 1: And now and then you know, throughout the season, he

474
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: started getting ran backrups. He proved himself there and so

475
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's kind of how you get on

476
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: the field, and that's how you get you know, on

477
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Speaker 1: the bus. So that's kind of the time I'm trying

478
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 1: to learn from him, was just go out there and

479
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,719
Speaker 1: you know, you might not be perfect. You know, you're

480
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 1: a young guy, you're still learning, but just go out

481
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: there and um, you know, try and know your stuff

482
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: and go out there and play hard. Every rookie's different

483
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: in that the fit. You know, you look at this team.

484
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 1: We talked about Austin, we talked about Melvin Coach Lynn

485
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: was a running backs coach in this league for fourteen

486
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: years before he became the head coach of the Chargers.

487
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 1: Discussed to fit with the LA Charge and the opportunity

488
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: that I think you were granted here and uh, really

489
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: preparing for the twenty eighteen season, I actually see a

490
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: lot of parallels between this organization, Northwestern U the our

491
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: football program. You know, they value character, high character guys.

492
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 1: You know, guys that are going to work hard. You know,

493
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,479
Speaker 1: all the older guys, the vets, you know, they're kind

494
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: of taking the young guys under their wing, you know,

495
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: which isn't typical I think of the of the NFL, So,

496
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: um no, that's been good to see for sure. And

497
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: and then it's just about going out there. You know,

498
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 1: there's a high emphasis on specially seam same thing in

499
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,479
Speaker 1: Northwestern um so, I see a lot of parallels there.

500
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 1: So that that's obviously really been a kind of a

501
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 1: smooth transition for me as far as the expectations. Um

502
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: And then coach Lynn, like you said, it was a

503
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: running back coach. He comes over our drills all the time,

504
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, instill in us knowledge and stuff like that.

505
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 1: And that's just a chance of the coach to see

506
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: you more right and you know he can he knows

507
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: you know what a good running back looks like obviously,

508
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: um So, you know, just trying to take what take

509
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: whose teach us and learn from that and go out

510
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: there and play. The difference between training camp Otia's obviously

511
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 1: going to be much different, especially for running back. I mean,

512
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: what can you accomplish in OTA's that can prepare you

513
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: for training camp being that you know we're not in

514
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: pads yet, right, Yeah, I mean there's a whole another

515
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: aspect added to the game when you put the pads on,

516
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,239
Speaker 1: especially for a running back, right, But what you can

517
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: learn now is focusing on your reads, focusing on your assignment,

518
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: stuff like that, so that when you get to that

519
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: point where the physicality is obviously added to it, Um,

520
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: you're not thinking as much. And that's what it's about.

521
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: Being a running back is first and foremost about being instinctual,

522
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 1: not thinking. Sure, So if you're out there thinking, you're

523
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: gonna be slow, and when you're slow out here, you're

524
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of things. Right, It's just that

525
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,239
Speaker 1: subconscious like, yeah, don't be thinking about things. Just let

526
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: it happen exactly. And that's that's the biggest thing I'm

527
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: trying to do right out here right now is is

528
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: learning the playbook, learning everything I need to know so

529
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: that when I get to training camp, I'm playing fast

530
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: and playing at the NFL speed. All Right, I gotta

531
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 1: figure something exactly because I read in high school you

532
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: had a five point EPA. How does that happen? How

533
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: does that occur? Um? Yeah, So we had we had honors,

534
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: we had honors courses, so like the AP courses, yeah,

535
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: all those and so if you know, four point z

536
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: was the highest you get unless you had honors class

537
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: and you get a five point out. I don't think

538
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: I had exactly a five point out. I might have

539
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: had in the mid to high fours or something like that.

540
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, still pretty good. Yeah, still still pretty good.

541
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 1: I always like to challenge myself. Did that in high school?

542
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: Did it in college obviously, So that's something I like

543
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: to do it. Well, you did it academically, but you

544
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 1: also did it athletically because it wasn't just football, right,

545
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: it was hoops and track. Right. You lettered in all three? Yeah,

546
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: so I did. I lettered in all three. I did

547
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: basketball obviously in football obviously for four years, but basketball,

548
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: which I love basketball. Yeah, like I read that was

549
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: your first look. Yeah, man, I thought it was gonna

550
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: be a basketball player and then I stopped growing. What position?

551
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: Were you shooting guard? I played point in high school? Okay, yeah,

552
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: let the county ins, no big deal. But you know

553
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: that desire to be great though? Justin where does that

554
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: come from? Because obviously that was instilled in you early.

555
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we're talking about high school and and

556
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: doing all these things. To talk to coach Fitz about

557
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 1: the impact that you had on the Northwest community, Where

558
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: does that come from I just think, you know, from

559
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: my family. You know my dad. My dad's a control

560
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: for you. He likes to do everything himself, whether it's um,

561
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: you know, doing the yardwork or whatever, or fixing the cars,

562
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: fixing the house. And sometimes he messes it up, but

563
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: really we really need to get someone else. But he

564
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: just he tries to be great and everything he does,

565
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: and that's kind of something he instilled in us. And

566
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: so then when we went out, we were trying to

567
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: do everything. Well, we're playing basketball, playing football, doing this,

568
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 1: doing that, playing volleyball, track all that stuff. Yeh um,

569
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: just trying to you know, whatever you do is you

570
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: go out there and work hard, try and be great.

571
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: Well why not you know who who doesn't want to

572
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: be the best album? Whatever you do. Why did you

573
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: realize that football was the sport? Um? Probably high school? Um,

574
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: because I just remember, oh, man, when we were younger, man,

575
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: it was all about going to the high school games

576
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: and just watching the guy like, oh, I can't wait

577
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: to be on varsity and all that stuff. Then we

578
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: finally got to high school. You know, we're playing with

579
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: your boys that you grew up with, playing park district

580
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: and and everyone's like, oh, you know, high school's way

581
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 1: harder and all this stuff, and I'm like, oh, I

582
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: don't know if it's good. And then in my first game,

583
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: IW like six touchdowns on my old man and then

584
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: I get called called up. Then my sophomore year on

585
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: playing on varsity with my older brother and I'm doing

586
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: you know, come playoff timing and him are splitting carriers.

587
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: We're both just doing well. We guys to semifinals. So

588
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: and then I think if my first offer camp and

589
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: then my sophomore years, early junior year, and then I

590
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: kind of started realizing, you know, something I could do.

591
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: And then my junior year she had a great year

592
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: and got all these offers. Senior year had a great year,

593
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: and then, you know, I don't think it hits you

594
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: until you kind of get there. You know, you get

595
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: your you get on campus and you're like, wow, I

596
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: really you know, use football as a vehicle to get

597
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: my education. And I'm at one of the best schools

598
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: in the country playing Big ten football. So it comes

599
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: so fast and you don't have time to step back

600
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: and think about it all the time. But then when

601
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: you do, you're like, wow, this is pretty incredible. You

602
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: mentioned the parallels between the Northwestern community and here at

603
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: the Chargers. If you had to pick one lesson from

604
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: Coach Fitzgerald that really stuck with you, what would it be.

605
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: Something Coach has always says is people do things for

606
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: others that they know and like. Right, So it's all

607
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: about just going out there. And he always talked about

608
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,239
Speaker 1: being a wildcat man. You know, it's about integrity, it's

609
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: about respect. It's about you know, you know, looking at

610
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: your fellow you know, human being and respecting them for

611
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: who they are, right, and just being nice to people,

612
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: being kind of people. And we were having our rookie

613
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: meeting and one of the d linements had a great

614
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: example of that. He went to a car dealership and

615
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: he was talking to the car dealer and everything, he

616
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: got the car. He was just really nice of the person.

617
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: And that person ended up being like, had some connection

618
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: to the owners, right, the owners of the Chargers, and

619
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: then they obviously spoke well about him, and then that

620
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: came back down from the So you just never know

621
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: little thing, never know who you're talking to. So it's

622
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: just about it's not about acting different, right, It's about

623
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: just being yourself and being kind about and being nice

624
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: others and Coach Fitz it was the same way. It

625
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: was the same way. So I think that's something I

626
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: definitely learned from, you know, not just coach Fitz. I

627
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: knew that before, but he really you know, and still

628
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: did in this and really pushed that hard. So something

629
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: that we can continue to do. So where's the live

630
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: by man? What are the Chargers getting in Justin Jackson

631
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: the man, coach Llah, They're getting the full deal. I mean,

632
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: he is everything. He's a unicorn, to be quite honest

633
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: with you. He's got the toughness, the durability, he never

634
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: missed a practice, never the game in his career here

635
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: on the field, off the field, you know, a double major,

636
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: incredibly engaged and involved in our campus, in our campus community.

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Speaker 1: A young man that was willing to give of himself

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Speaker 1: for the enjoyment, uh in the betterment of our community.

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Speaker 1: Just a selflesh young man that you know. I think

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Speaker 1: once he gets kind of entrenched and grained with everything

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Speaker 1: uh there in LA, he'll he'll become a huge fan favorite.

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Speaker 1: I'll get you out here on this. Justin NBA Finals.

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Speaker 1: What was the last time, all right, so Lebron, last

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Speaker 1: time he wasn't in the NBA Finals twenty ten. Where

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Speaker 1: were you in twenty ten? I was fourteen about that.

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Speaker 1: I remember I was in eighth grade back in Jay

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Speaker 1: Jay Stream, you know, shout out Keil Stream in hometown. Um,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, that's man, He's unbelievable. You know, my favorite

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Speaker 1: player is Doing Wade, obviously another unbelievable player. Those those

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Speaker 1: years he was on the heat. Man, those are some

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Speaker 1: of the best years of my life, I'm telling you.

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Speaker 1: But um, he's I mean, Lebron's unbelievable. You know, his

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Speaker 1: team stepped up like he finally in Game seven. Um,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough, really tough.

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Speaker 1: Got the finals prediction for me. We kick it off. Man. Hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'll speak with my heart. My heart says the Calves

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Speaker 1: can somehow find a way to pull it out. But

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Speaker 1: if I'm speaking with my head, I gotta go Golden

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Speaker 1: State in six. Yeah, be tougher, it'd be tough. Man's

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Speaker 1: gonna get at least War two. No, No, here's my thing.

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Speaker 1: I think Lebron might have a forty point trouble double average. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they're still not gonna win because they I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: they scored, he scored. He scored half their points. You

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Speaker 1: can't score ninety points against the Warriors, you just can't.

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Speaker 1: You gotta be over one hundred. And man, look what

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Speaker 1: happened last year and they had Kyrie and I don't

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Speaker 1: even know if Kevin loves playing, and now they don't

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Speaker 1: have those guys, and you can't replace that talent. So

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough. The intrigue too. In uh in

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Speaker 1: a month and a half, where he's gonna be. He

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Speaker 1: could be here, Yeah, he could be up the street,

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Speaker 1: he could be he could be in La. Um. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's gonna be an interesting summer. Um,

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Speaker 1: it'd be. It'd be nice for him to come out

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Speaker 1: to la you know because maybe maybe I'll get to

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Speaker 1: meet him, but get to a few games. Yes, it'd

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Speaker 1: be nice. You know, you'll meet Lebron. Will be cool.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see. Yeah, it's up been the here Justin.

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Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure. Man. We're pumped to have you

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Speaker 1: here in La. Appreciate that and that'll do it. My

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Speaker 1: thanks to Justin and Mike Renner for joining me, and

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Speaker 1: of course thanks to you all for listening. If you

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Speaker 1: can find us on Apple Podcasts, and while you're there,

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Speaker 1: you enjoyed this episode, and until next time, I'm Chris

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