WEBVTT - Why Commuting to Work is Killing You #020

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I'm Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we're talking about why your commute is killing you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at Today on the show, we're gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the problem with commuting, why it's so bad, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna provide some answers for how people can get

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<v Speaker 1>some relief and hopefully figure out ways to commute less,

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<v Speaker 1>and then how to take action so that they aren't

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<v Speaker 1>in their cars as much. I thought you love commuting them, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's my favorite. Well, now that I'm commuting by

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<v Speaker 1>bike mostly, had another great ride today to and from work.

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<v Speaker 1>It was lovely. I feel like you guys are about

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<v Speaker 1>ready to switch it to uh one car. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't given it some more thought, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting closer for sure. Although a bunch of episodes

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<v Speaker 1>ago we talked about this app called Rapidfi right wrapping

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<v Speaker 1>your car and you thought it was ridiculous. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was like episode two or three or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so they started a new campaign in our area.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm getting my leaf wrapped on Thursday, dog, are

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<v Speaker 1>you really? Yeah? I'm gonna make myself like fifty bucks

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<v Speaker 1>a week. That's two hundred bucks a month. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>two h bucks. But what is it? I mean, what's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be on your car? I think your Salesforce. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know what they do, and I don't really care. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>that's who are that's who park it works for? Way

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<v Speaker 1>to Go, Parker. You just got on my vehicle. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh. Okay, I will say that's much better than

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<v Speaker 1>a lifetime daytime TV show or uh. I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>want something less business e and more goofy. I was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hoping the Honey Booboo thing would work out,

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<v Speaker 1>but because because the Salesforce is gonna seem a little

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<v Speaker 1>too like legit, like you actually work for Salesforce and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>people are gonna be like, oh, well, how's how's it

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<v Speaker 1>working for Salesforce? I'm like, I don't, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just that's the wrong guy exactly, sending for

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<v Speaker 1>the buck. The Honey Boo Boo thing though, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't hear that episode, the potential campaign that I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna participate in and get my car wrapped four

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<v Speaker 1>was a new Honey Boo Boo Show or Honey Boo

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<v Speaker 1>Boo's Mom's Show or something like that, and I just,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I thought that was gonna be hilarious and

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<v Speaker 1>my neighbors would probably Letty Bobo's mom's sister once in

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<v Speaker 1>on the action, right, Yeah, she wants her on show

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<v Speaker 1>now too, And I just thought that would be really funny.

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<v Speaker 1>But sadly it didn't work out, did not quite in time.

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<v Speaker 1>But this one is working out. Legit on Thursday, can

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped on Thursday. She don't care. She don't care, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Kate would care. Well, you guys have one car and

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<v Speaker 1>she drives that, and so this is the car that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I might drive it just a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>even just up and down the street because you have

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<v Speaker 1>to wrap up like ten miles a day in order

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<v Speaker 1>to get the requirement, the full bounty or whatever. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you drink anything this past week? I uh totally broke

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<v Speaker 1>something out of the seller, which I don't do all

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<v Speaker 1>that often. And I've got this, like I call it

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<v Speaker 1>a seller. I got like twelve beers in my pantry

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<v Speaker 1>that so. But I do like to I think, like

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about recently, I like to age some beers

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<v Speaker 1>over time. And I've pulled out one of my loa

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<v Speaker 1>Gunitas high West Ifides oh whoa high West ifies those

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<v Speaker 1>like those way back. Yeah, it's so good. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>coffee stout aged in whiskey barrels, rye whiskey barrels, and

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<v Speaker 1>it it was delicious, aging perfectly so nice. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody out there, I think we've mentioned this before,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have some sour beers or better aged or

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<v Speaker 1>if you have you know, bourbon barrel aged stouts reporters

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, those beers are often great to

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<v Speaker 1>hang onto for a couple of years, and the flavor

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<v Speaker 1>changes over time, so it's always fun to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to something like that. Do not age an I p

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<v Speaker 1>a or a palele, No drink those fresh. Those dastes

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<v Speaker 1>terrible with a few months on them. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>asked what you had, man, because I just had my

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<v Speaker 1>first Athena. Yeah, that's such a good beer. After having

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<v Speaker 1>that French Imperial Berlin of Vice, I was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what it's it's officially Berlin of Vice season man.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, having that Athena, it's such a good

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<v Speaker 1>summer summer light drinking beer, not like lighting body, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's got that acidity, has got that sour, that tartness,

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<v Speaker 1>that wheat finish and it's it's one of those perfect

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<v Speaker 1>beach beers too, So we're gonna have to bring some

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<v Speaker 1>of that to the beach. Is anything. It's like under

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<v Speaker 1>five percent and light and refreshing and tart like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just love that. It's the It's the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect thing to drink. Feet in the sand, you know, waves,

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<v Speaker 1>waves crashing up on the shore and everything after up,

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<v Speaker 1>I cried, Yeah, let's move on to the beer were

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<v Speaker 1>drinking today. And we went from an awesome major brewery

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<v Speaker 1>last week, ale Gash Too, a brewery that I guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>you probably nobody listening to this podcast has ever heard of,

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<v Speaker 1>because we're ultra hip guys. We're drinking something from. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like listening to bands that you've never heard of yet,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like, yeah, yeah, I totally heard of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I just made that name up. We're drinking something from.

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<v Speaker 1>My friend John is a home brewer, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of good homebrewers out there, but there's also

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of bad home brewers out there, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>so if I say homebrewer, you might be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably gonna taste like crap, But no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>John's legit, man, he might be one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>brewers in the state. Yeah, he just doesn't produce it

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<v Speaker 1>for public consumption, that's right. So he bottles a few

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<v Speaker 1>things and I was fortunate to get one of these,

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<v Speaker 1>and so Matt and I are drinking tonight. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>good John's beer. And his brewery is called Little Cottage

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<v Speaker 1>Brewery and the beer is called a splinter in the mind.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm really excited about this, Matt, because literally, if

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<v Speaker 1>you asked me what my favorite style of beer was,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be a Flanders Landers Red. Man, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the best. I'm with you, man, this has got it

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<v Speaker 1>all like Flanders Red. It's got like the sour sort

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<v Speaker 1>of heart aspect of it, right, yep, you like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You like that side of it. I love that side

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<v Speaker 1>of it. But then I love the vinegary side. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got this distinct vinegary kind of taste. And so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really excited to get his take on it and see

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<v Speaker 1>what this tastes like. It's almost like a shrub. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if any of you guys out there have

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<v Speaker 1>had like like that cocktail, Like, have you ever ever

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<v Speaker 1>had shrubs? I don't need shrubs, man, It's weird. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a very it's a high, highly acidic

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<v Speaker 1>sort of cocktail that you kind of age and you

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<v Speaker 1>muddle and you know, you adge into it, making me

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<v Speaker 1>think about Monty Python. Say, is that what we're talking about? Similar? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like that, all right, but uh but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's similar as a cdity level, which is, yeah, something

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<v Speaker 1>I'm drawn to. But then on top of that, the

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<v Speaker 1>other aspect of it, man, is then they take them

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<v Speaker 1>and they age them either onwood or in barrels, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that just gives it another round of amazing flavor. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this one in particular is aged fifteen months

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<v Speaker 1>in a rye whiskey barrel and then another two months

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<v Speaker 1>on tart cherries. Gosh, so it just sounds perfect. So

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<v Speaker 1>juiced to have this thing. Man, it's gonna be so good.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm pretty pumped. Let's uh, let's pop it now.

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<v Speaker 1>So the pop sound was a little weak on this

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<v Speaker 1>because John did a wax wax the top of the bottle,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of a cool look but also sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>makes it a pain in the ask to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the beer. Yeah, we each got one of these cute

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<v Speaker 1>little bottles. Man, They kind of look like mini bombers,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're like the they look like the big ones,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're kind of like your own personal pan pizza. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Lander's red style, right, Yeah, these are I

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<v Speaker 1>think the three seventy five million liter bottles, which are

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<v Speaker 1>really cool looking. When I stop my nose in that glass,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, that smells so good. The size of

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<v Speaker 1>your cheeks just start watering because it's got that My

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<v Speaker 1>mouth knows what's up. It's like we're about the party

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<v Speaker 1>taste buds getting excited. So Flanders right, known for the

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<v Speaker 1>color too. Yeah, it's got a brownish red color to

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<v Speaker 1>that classic Flanders red red lick to it, and it's perfect. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>How does he do it? So he's known for making

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<v Speaker 1>he makes amazing stouts, and has he ever made one

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<v Speaker 1>of these before as far as you know, as far

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<v Speaker 1>as I know, he hasn't. He's made some good sours,

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<v Speaker 1>But like, crap, this is such a particularise style and

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<v Speaker 1>really difficult to make. I assume it's difficult. You just

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<v Speaker 1>don't see you don't see a lot of people doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>so you you've got to assume that it's somewhat difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>And and and he like seriously nailed this. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like a Barry Bonds home run or Tiger Woods

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<v Speaker 1>sunk putt or something like that. Like that's what this

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<v Speaker 1>tastes like, a little lebron in a glass right here,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly exactly. It's unparalleled. Sorry, if you don't know sports,

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<v Speaker 1>those are sports references. I'm not so good at the sports.

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<v Speaker 1>It starts off with that classic Flanders red aggressiveness, but

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<v Speaker 1>then immediately you can it switches to the cherries. You

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<v Speaker 1>taste that fruit. You totally get the cherries, which is

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<v Speaker 1>so nice, like the sweetness from the cherries and the

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<v Speaker 1>the whiskey barrel. I think kind of keeps it all

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<v Speaker 1>in check that it's not too sweet or too vinegary

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<v Speaker 1>or too tart. And it's like this mellows it all

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<v Speaker 1>out there, and perfectly balanced representation helps it to finish

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<v Speaker 1>a little dryer, like kind of having that wood there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like I said, this is my favorite style,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've had some really good representations of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've had some really bad ones, and this is like

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<v Speaker 1>up there top two, so good. This might be the

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<v Speaker 1>best beer I've had all year, Like seriously, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>best beer. You want to go ahead and say it,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is freaking amazing, I'll say it. We had

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<v Speaker 1>some great beers on the podcast, some great beers. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a ton of great beers. Yeah. Pretty much every

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<v Speaker 1>week we have a great beer. Yeah exactly, and that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't fail. And this is probably the best one so far.

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<v Speaker 1>So John, you're the master. Thank you, John. This is fantastic. Man. Cheers.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, man, let's talk about commuting. Why it's killing you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it. Commuting is essentially the opposite of this

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<v Speaker 1>beer that we're drinking. Yeah, white knuckled hell, this is

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<v Speaker 1>like this brings life, that brings you. So let's cover

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<v Speaker 1>the problem first. Yeah. Yeah. So ultimately, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>major problems is that we sit too much in our culture,

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<v Speaker 1>and traditional commuting in your car is by yourself sitting right,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly. We touched on this recently too in a

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<v Speaker 1>in an episode. I forget which one, but we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how you most folks literally you sit in your car,

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<v Speaker 1>you drive to work, you sit all day, you sit

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<v Speaker 1>in a cubicle, and then you just repeat the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing over again. Can you come home? And then you

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of times sitting there watching TV or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, eating dinner, sitting on our butts. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>the it's not good for you, and we need to

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<v Speaker 1>get off our butts more in the winter. Man, Like

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm sitting in my home office they're working, I

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<v Speaker 1>can literally feel my body just like slow down and

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<v Speaker 1>rotting away, like it's not able to keep warm. Like

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<v Speaker 1>my body is not able to do the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>it needs to do, which is maintain it's temperature. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to get this huge down jacket because you just

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<v Speaker 1>stop moving and the blood starts slowing down, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just bad. Yeah, I hate it. One scientist a few

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<v Speaker 1>years back said sitting is the new smoking, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he had done some research on what sitting does to

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<v Speaker 1>your body. And in our culture, with how sedentary we've become,

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<v Speaker 1>like we said, you know, with commuting, sitting at work,

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at home, all the time, we're we're sitting, sitting, sitting,

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<v Speaker 1>and and essentially it's so bad for us. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>one researcher says that it's like smoking, that it's that

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<v Speaker 1>bad for you, and so it's something that we should

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<v Speaker 1>be concerned about. Estimates say that we sit for half

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<v Speaker 1>of our waking hours. And dude, I would even say

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<v Speaker 1>more than that. I mean, literally, if you think about

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of time that people work and the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time they spend in their car right there, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that's over half. And it's not like they

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<v Speaker 1>spend the rest of the day standing up. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>not talking about everyone here, but yeah, maybe you know,

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<v Speaker 1>most people that do sit down when they work, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they get up to go to the bathroom or to

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<v Speaker 1>grab something off the printer, but probably eighty two percent

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<v Speaker 1>of their you know, in a stat I just made up,

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<v Speaker 1>probably that probably that much of the time is spent

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in front of their computer. Rule exactly. It's well documented. Yeah. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a huge problem. And another thing too is that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's costing us money. So it's it's literally

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<v Speaker 1>taking our health and now it's also taking our money.

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<v Speaker 1>You take into account what your hourly wages, but then

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<v Speaker 1>you actually if you take into account the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>time you spend in the car getting there, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you divide that out and you're actually earning, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a good bit less than you actually think you're making.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're making but you're commuting forty five minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>each way and sitting in traffic and car costs and

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<v Speaker 1>fuel and all these other things added in. You should

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<v Speaker 1>actually do the math and see what you're real hourly wages.

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<v Speaker 1>It turns out that you're probably making substantially blessed than

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<v Speaker 1>you thought you were with all of the costs that

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<v Speaker 1>are associated with going to work and commuting in a

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<v Speaker 1>big steel box. And so it's really important to factor

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<v Speaker 1>the costs of your commute and car ownership and how

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<v Speaker 1>much time you're wasting into that hourly wage to d

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<v Speaker 1>to get a realistic picture of what you're actually earning

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<v Speaker 1>from your job. Yeah, we recently talked about the legit

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<v Speaker 1>way to own a car. So on top of all this,

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<v Speaker 1>like Joel said, if you are financing, say a brand

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<v Speaker 1>new car, not only is this killing you, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually costing you way more money than you even realize.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, on top of the fact that we're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>too much and that's killing us, and that we're actually

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<v Speaker 1>not making as much money as we think because we're

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<v Speaker 1>spending a lot of time in the car as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to time in the office actually making the money. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>We're spending money on fuel costs and on the actual

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<v Speaker 1>car that gets us there, and the time it takes

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<v Speaker 1>to get to work that we're not actually getting paid.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are a lot of costic have to be

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<v Speaker 1>factored in. But on top of that, I mean, how

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<v Speaker 1>awful is traffic? Right? Yeah? Man? I mean like the stress,

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<v Speaker 1>the stress of sitting in traffic, like what it does

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<v Speaker 1>to you psychologically, doesn't get the endorphins flowing for you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you feel all you feel all jazz once you

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<v Speaker 1>get home and you get all loose and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like nothing, just like a night out with

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<v Speaker 1>my lady in traffic, you know, can't be a I

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<v Speaker 1>have home in Atlanta. Traffic Certainly where you live, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's not quite as bad as as we have it here,

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<v Speaker 1>but still I guarantee nobody really enjoys driving to and

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<v Speaker 1>from work. Is it time to talk about the solutions? Then? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of solutions that are out there

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<v Speaker 1>for people who are, uh, who are taking their car

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<v Speaker 1>to work. And so I think too, you probably know

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<v Speaker 1>some of these basic things, right you. You know that

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<v Speaker 1>you know we're gonna say bike to work, and you

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<v Speaker 1>might say, well that doesn't work for me, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to offer a bunch of different solutions, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>there's something that you can implement in some way, form

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<v Speaker 1>or fashion to commute less frequently, or to commute in

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<v Speaker 1>a different way, or to change the schedule that you

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<v Speaker 1>have at work. We're gonna come up with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of options here for you to consider so that you're

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<v Speaker 1>commuting is less bad and hopefully costing you less money. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, these aren't things that are revolutionary, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the actual things that we're going to suggest, So

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<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about are the alternatives the traditional commuting,

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<v Speaker 1>so either car pooling, public transit, biking, even walking, uh

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<v Speaker 1>and but even working from home as well. Like, these

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<v Speaker 1>aren't things things that, say, you've never heard of, But

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna do is specifically to talk about why

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<v Speaker 1>that they're good not only for you obviously, but as

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<v Speaker 1>well for like your employer and even your city and

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<v Speaker 1>the environment as well. Yeah, and and also how you

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<v Speaker 1>can actually implement some of these things in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're not gonna be able to speak to every circumstance, right,

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<v Speaker 1>If you are calling on accounts across town, chances are that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's not even a commute, that's just what

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<v Speaker 1>you do right, and so that's really hard to cut

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<v Speaker 1>down on your a ups driver and yeah, that's your life.

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<v Speaker 1>The truck's gotta get gotta get around town to drop

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<v Speaker 1>off the packages. There's not much you can change. You

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<v Speaker 1>can listen to this podcast on repeat and that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to help at least, But they're they're only there's only uh,

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<v Speaker 1>certain professions that can actually be helped by this. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot of people and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of practical takeaways for almost everybody in this. Yeah. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>first let's talk about the benefit to employees. So you

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<v Speaker 1>as workers, I mean it should be obvious. Thing goes

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<v Speaker 1>without saying that employees want to have options, to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to either work from home or at least hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>to have some sort of incentive, like you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like some sort of carrot dangled in front of them

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of challenge them to think, oh man, what

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<v Speaker 1>are some other ways that I could get to work,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, while maybe saving money, while enjoying myself more

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<v Speaker 1>and not being nearly as stressed out as I normally am.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you are able to work from home, you

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<v Speaker 1>should take advantage of that and consider asking if you

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<v Speaker 1>can work from home more than you're currently allowed to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's less stress in your life if you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to fight traffic, it's less cost less war and terror

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<v Speaker 1>on your car. And the other cool thing is that

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you're more productive when you're working from home, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>mean there's just so much time that you can essentially

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<v Speaker 1>reclaim and kind of put towards productivity. It gives you

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<v Speaker 1>a little more time to be flexible, maybe stay during

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<v Speaker 1>the day, but basically, yeah, it allows you just to

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<v Speaker 1>get more stuff done, uh, in a shorter amount of time. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And like Matt, for you, when you were able to

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<v Speaker 1>start working from home, you know, you're makeup time got

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<v Speaker 1>cut in half, Like you you didn't have to look

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful for all the people at the office like you stop.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you started wearing T shirts as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>these like three piece suits and stuff like that, right yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you had like the pocket watch and ye

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, the monitors take a long time to put on.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. So that's another great benefit of

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<v Speaker 1>working from home as you can just keep your pjs on, right,

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<v Speaker 1>make a quick breakfast and sit down and get to work. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's fewer meetings that you have to tend, fewer interruptions.

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<v Speaker 1>And granted, I'll tell you I enjoy working in office.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy working with people, but it's really nice to

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<v Speaker 1>work from home. Sometimes I do feel more productive when

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<v Speaker 1>I am at home, working alone and don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>constant interruption of working in a workplace where surrounded by

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<v Speaker 1>other people. Yeah, and surrounded by just like those constant

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<v Speaker 1>meetings that you kind of get scheduled for. We're just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to be in this meeting, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on the list and I was sent to invite, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm supposed to be here, I think, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to be here. I just remember those from

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<v Speaker 1>ten years ago, back when I used to work in

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<v Speaker 1>an agency, and I hated those. Dude, like I've been there,

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<v Speaker 1>done that. Oh my gosh, probably yesterday. That's just the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing that just drives me crazy, is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you're just staring inefficiency in the face and

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<v Speaker 1>you're just like, I just want to shoot myself right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, and not the worst, not all meetings are bad,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, and sometimes it's just an impromptu visit

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<v Speaker 1>from a coworker, and those are fun. But there are

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<v Speaker 1>days where it's nice to feel like you're uper productive.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know the days that I feel like that

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<v Speaker 1>are usually either on Fridays when everyone else is working

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<v Speaker 1>from home and I'm in the office, or when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>working from home, I feel like that. So I enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>having the interactional with my coworkers. But those days are

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<v Speaker 1>really nice to have. And in another point, another benefit

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<v Speaker 1>to alternatives to traditional com meeting. I mean we already

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<v Speaker 1>touched on this, but you just save a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>You just take a new account how much money you

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<v Speaker 1>put towards gas, towards your car upkeep. You know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're driving in solo and that's just a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>your monthly budget that you're not gonna have to put

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<v Speaker 1>towards transportation. And not only that, you're gonna see your

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle just last you longer. The value is gonna kind

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<v Speaker 1>of maintain and you're not going to see it depreciate

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<v Speaker 1>nearly as much as if you're driving it every day

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<v Speaker 1>forty five minutes to from work. Yeah. Completely, If you're

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<v Speaker 1>able to take a few thousand miles off your car

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<v Speaker 1>every year, you know, that might be one fewer oil change,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's so easily, especially city driving. To man, that's

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<v Speaker 1>like the worst versus just like hopping on the interstate,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and that's less gas, so you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>use and that less breaks, less everything, maybe cheaper insurance

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<v Speaker 1>that you can get. If you can get under a

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<v Speaker 1>certain mile cap from your insure, you might be able

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<v Speaker 1>to save you know, a hundred dollars or a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty dollars every year by driving less. Yes, So

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<v Speaker 1>they're all all these costs that you're not factoring in

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<v Speaker 1>that go into your commute into work every day. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's really important to sit down put those things on

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<v Speaker 1>paper to at least know what you're spending so that

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<v Speaker 1>you can know what to ask if your employer when

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at alternative commute options. So another benefit, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is specific to working from home, but just being

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<v Speaker 1>able to work from home and have that flexibility to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of do some personal stuff. And I know this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sounds counter like counterintuitive to like the productivity one,

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<v Speaker 1>but occasionally instead of taking say a half day off

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<v Speaker 1>at work just because yet you know, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>take time to get to somewhere and then pick somebody

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<v Speaker 1>up and all that. If you're already at home, you're

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<v Speaker 1>still able to get a lot done. But then if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a little bit of flexibility to say, go

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<v Speaker 1>do something that you need to do, or like with

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<v Speaker 1>us with having rental properties, it's nice to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to have a little bit of time to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>jump out and go check something out, meet a contractor

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<v Speaker 1>over at a house. Having flexibility is key. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>if you cut the hour and a half commute, the

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<v Speaker 1>time there, the time home. If you're able to cut

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<v Speaker 1>that commute out once once or twice a week, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you can you know, hop into see your dentist

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a quick hour appointment, but you made it

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<v Speaker 1>up because you're not commuting. It's things like that that

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<v Speaker 1>are really nice. Or you know flex days where let's

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<v Speaker 1>say you're able to work a little bit longer on

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<v Speaker 1>another day of the week while you're in the office,

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<v Speaker 1>it might help you avoid traffic two and then give

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<v Speaker 1>you more flexi the next day to work a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit less so you can factor in a doctor's appointment

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<v Speaker 1>and not have to take a full day off of work.

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<v Speaker 1>So if an employer can be flexible, if you can

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<v Speaker 1>work with your employer to add some flexibility to your

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<v Speaker 1>work schedule that can really benefit both of you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's huge, man, I don't know how many we're at

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<v Speaker 1>the age now where we've got friends with kids and

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<v Speaker 1>the kids stuff and stuff is just uh, it's becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a thing, you know, Like we're like our schedules. We're

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<v Speaker 1>starting to plan our years around like the school schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of crazy. But more and more we

0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:10.800
<v Speaker 1>hear parents talking about like how those flex days are

0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:13.560
<v Speaker 1>so clutch, being able to kick off a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>early in order to go pick somebody up, or go

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<v Speaker 1>to an event, go to parent teacher conference. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>like all these things that we're about to learn firsthand. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we should talk about too, like the employer

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<v Speaker 1>and how the employers can work on answering this question.

0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:29.439
<v Speaker 1>And if you are not an employer, you're just an

0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:31.359
<v Speaker 1>employee listening. I think this is an important section for

0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:33.040
<v Speaker 1>you too, because it kind of helps you to know

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<v Speaker 1>how to approach your employer when it comes to asking

0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.119
<v Speaker 1>some of these questions and trying to increase some of

0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:40.399
<v Speaker 1>the flexibility that's in your schedule so that you can

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<v Speaker 1>cut your commute time and your commute costs. Yeah, this

0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:45.760
<v Speaker 1>is your AMMO, right, because if your employer doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>see how this is going to affect their bottom line,

0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:49.520
<v Speaker 1>they're not necessarily gonna be for They're gonna think, oh,

0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:52.199
<v Speaker 1>this is just some sort of gimmick. You know, this

0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:54.280
<v Speaker 1>is what all the kids are asking for these days.

0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll do it. Maybe not. This is a ploy

0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:58.280
<v Speaker 1>for Jimmy to knock off early and go play some

0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.520
<v Speaker 1>disc golf or something like that. By Jimmy you mean Joel,

0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean myself. You can't just create an avatar for

0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:07.639
<v Speaker 1>yourself and only change the last three letters of your name. Dude,

0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:10.960
<v Speaker 1>he has like all the same hobbies that you do,

0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:13.399
<v Speaker 1>but Jimmy wants to go to this Jimmy wants to

0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:16.400
<v Speaker 1>play some nerdy board games tonight. Um. Yeah, I mean

0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.000
<v Speaker 1>it's important for them to realize how that's gonna affect

0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:22.720
<v Speaker 1>their business. Right. If you work for a smart, successful employer,

0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:24.919
<v Speaker 1>that's what they're going to want to see. That's that

0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:26.919
<v Speaker 1>they want to see how that's going to affect the

0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:29.800
<v Speaker 1>bottom line, the bottom dollar. Yeah. I think ultimately workers

0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:34.159
<v Speaker 1>appreciate flexibility and being treated like adults. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest things that does for you as an employer

0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:38.200
<v Speaker 1>to treat your employees as adults, like they know how

0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:40.360
<v Speaker 1>to make their own decisions. And part of that comes

0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.880
<v Speaker 1>out of the hiring process, right making sure you know

0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:44.600
<v Speaker 1>the people that you're hiring and you trust them to

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<v Speaker 1>do a good job. You trust them not to take

0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:48.879
<v Speaker 1>advantage of the rules. But if you do treat your

0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:53.160
<v Speaker 1>employees with that sort of care and intention, it'll breed loyalty.

0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:56.200
<v Speaker 1>And what's one of the highest costs for employers. It's

0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:59.240
<v Speaker 1>finding new talent and then training that talent and giving

0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:02.400
<v Speaker 1>them a similar into the workplace. It's so much better

0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:05.440
<v Speaker 1>to keep good talent that you have in your workforce.

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:07.679
<v Speaker 1>And if they feel like they have that autonomy in

0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:10.879
<v Speaker 1>that ability to create a flexible schedule and work hard

0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:13.760
<v Speaker 1>for forty forty hours a week that they're tasked to do,

0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:17.240
<v Speaker 1>but have the freedom to knock off early or start

0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:19.280
<v Speaker 1>work early the next day if they had to leave

0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:22.040
<v Speaker 1>early for a doctor's appointment or to see their kids

0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:26.600
<v Speaker 1>soccer practice, that creates this amazing loyalty that keeps people

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<v Speaker 1>in the company. You create a culture where people want

0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:31.040
<v Speaker 1>to stick around. Yeah. Man. Not only that, but having

0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:33.320
<v Speaker 1>that autonomy, like you said, it kind of gives an

0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:36.040
<v Speaker 1>employee like ownership of the work. And so not only

0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:38.000
<v Speaker 1>do they are they just doing what they're being told

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<v Speaker 1>to do, but they kind of feel like they are invested,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like this is like their company, this is

0:22:42.720 --> 0:22:45.600
<v Speaker 1>part of who they are. It starts to, like you said,

0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:47.520
<v Speaker 1>like that culture, it starts to kind of seep into

0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:50.119
<v Speaker 1>everything and it and if it's good culture that you

0:22:50.160 --> 0:22:52.359
<v Speaker 1>wanted to seep into everything, it affects everything, and it

0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:54.960
<v Speaker 1>it affects the work, the quality of the work, and

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:58.119
<v Speaker 1>the creativity. You can't beat it. Yeah, that's sort of

0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:01.080
<v Speaker 1>mentality towards your employees is you're not just a worker.

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:03.960
<v Speaker 1>B You're a part of what makes this company work. Yeah,

0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 1>You're part of the team yep. And and that has

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 1>such an effect on what you're gonna get out of people,

0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:12.360
<v Speaker 1>the mindset that they come into work with. Not that

0:23:12.440 --> 0:23:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I have these tasks I need to accomplish, but I

0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:18.000
<v Speaker 1>have this business in this brand and this culture that

0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I want to be a part of and I want

0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:22.800
<v Speaker 1>to build. And so as an employer, you're really really

0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:25.919
<v Speaker 1>smart to think of your employees in this manner and

0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:29.280
<v Speaker 1>treat your employees like adults. To breed that loyalty. I mean,

0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 1>really it's kind of self serving, you know if you

0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:33.280
<v Speaker 1>think about it, Like we're saying that these are things

0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:35.679
<v Speaker 1>that are good for the employer, but like, yeah, do

0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:38.160
<v Speaker 1>these things for your employees because it's gonna benefit you,

0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:41.120
<v Speaker 1>like these things, like it all comes back to the employer.

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:43.960
<v Speaker 1>So and another solid, sort of tangible way that this

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:47.800
<v Speaker 1>saves and benefits employers too is just space. Uh, there's

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:50.960
<v Speaker 1>less of a need for obviously cars, right, if you've

0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:53.920
<v Speaker 1>got folks that are car pooling or taking alternative means,

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:57.399
<v Speaker 1>whether it be public transit, biking, walking, you don't need

0:23:57.440 --> 0:23:59.399
<v Speaker 1>to pay for that extra two levels of the parking

0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:01.480
<v Speaker 1>deck because you're eployees don't need it, And maybe some

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:04.080
<v Speaker 1>of your employees are riding a segue. I wouldn't recommend that,

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.800
<v Speaker 1>but I wouldn't incentivize that. I'm just kidding. But I

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:08.879
<v Speaker 1>see more people on these like the bird scooters and

0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 1>the segways, and it's fine, but not my preferred method

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:14.159
<v Speaker 1>of transport. It's it's more for fun. It's like you

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 1>want to go on a tour of the city, Yeah,

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 1>your helmet pop on a segway? Why not? But yeah,

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>so actually I have a personal example here of when

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 1>it comes to a fewer parking spaces. So a couple

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 1>of days of the week there have been more people

0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:27.919
<v Speaker 1>working in the building that I work in, in the

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 1>parking garage gets full. And so Mike, I know, right,

0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 1>And so my company is considering adding onto the parking

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:37.280
<v Speaker 1>deck like building more and that just sounds like a

0:24:37.320 --> 0:24:41.160
<v Speaker 1>really big expense, sounds really stupid. And I am literally

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 1>the only person in my building that rides a bike

0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 1>to work, and that's fine, but I just I notice

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:48.360
<v Speaker 1>it that I'm literally the only bike in the parking lot.

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 1>But I know that there are more people that live

0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 1>close by that would consider car pulling. And I've said

0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 1>before in the show I've car pull with my coworkers sometimes,

0:24:56.880 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 1>but mostly I bike. And so if my employer would

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:04.200
<v Speaker 1>offer an incentive instead of adding space to this parking garage,

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.960
<v Speaker 1>which is expensive, it's a lot of concrete, right, It's

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 1>it's this big time thing. Creating small incentives for employees

0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 1>to bike or two car pool to work, I think

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 1>would be so much better for not only their bottom line,

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:20.359
<v Speaker 1>but the company culture as a whole. And I just

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 1>think that there are better solutions to the problem that

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:25.800
<v Speaker 1>that we're facing in our building in particular and buildings

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>around the country where workhorses are fully staffed right now,

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 1>than adding more space or building more on a parking deck. Yeah, yeah,

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 1>you gotta think that there's a more elegant solution, right,

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Like like hearing that makes me think of like the

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:40.240
<v Speaker 1>whole problem of like traffic, and so what do you do, Oh,

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 1>you just make the interstate wider. Let's build more rows.

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 1>So we need, we need wider lanes, we need let's

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 1>take it from a fourteen lane to a sixteen lane.

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 1>That'll do it. Yes, certainly, that will allow there to

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 1>be more space. No, it's a dumb solution, and I

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.159
<v Speaker 1>think it's just such a near sided thought process, you know,

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:59.400
<v Speaker 1>like let's let's take these drastic steps to create this structure,

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 1>and it's a major undertaking. It's gonna cost, yeah, like

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:03.639
<v Speaker 1>you said, a lot of money, and it's just, yeah,

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 1>not a great solution, and not even just parking too.

0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 1>But I mean we've we've barely talked about actual office space.

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 1>If you have all of your employees, they're under the

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 1>same reef. Certainly there's times when that's called for and

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you need to get together as a team, brainstorm whatever.

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:18.520
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, if you rarely have all of your employees

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>together like that, think about how many fewer offices you

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>would actually need to have least in order to house

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 1>your staff. Yeah, I mean think about it logically, using

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 1>a space from eight to five Monday through Friday, and

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:32.640
<v Speaker 1>that's the only time, but everyone's in at the same time.

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 1>It's just an inefficient use of space. And so you

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:39.119
<v Speaker 1>could do it better by creating alternating schedules, by allowing

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 1>people to work from home on certain days and alternating

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>those things so that people are all together sometimes, but

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 1>that for the majority of the time people have flex

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 1>work schedules. And again, I know this isn't a one

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.719
<v Speaker 1>size fits all solution. This doesn't work for ups drivers

0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>like we said, or or doctors or nurses or certain

0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:58.159
<v Speaker 1>other things. I mean, we'll talk about some steps that

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 1>hopefully even doctors and nurses can take that they can

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:03.160
<v Speaker 1>do on their own. And I know that this doesn't

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>necessarily work for all employers, but you know what, in

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:08.439
<v Speaker 1>our economy, with the kind of communication that we can

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>have between each other, with email, texting, phone calling, slack,

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>there's slack. Yeah, there's all these ways to communicate. We

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:18.200
<v Speaker 1>don't have to all be in the building at once.

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:21.159
<v Speaker 1>There's video chat. I mean, it's amazing technology allows us,

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 1>especially for doing things like this. It can really cut

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>down the cost for employers. You know, another way that

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:32.680
<v Speaker 1>employers can cut down costs. No, tell me healthcare. So true,

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:35.120
<v Speaker 1>it's more of a traditional thing, right, the health care

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>model that we have in the States where the employer

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>pays for it. But regardless, it's widespread and it's it's

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>the model. It's it's it's how it currently is. And

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>bottom line, if you have healthier employees, right, if you

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>have employees that are biking and walking, they're more physically fit.

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>If you have employees who are either car pulling or

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 1>taking public transit, or and even working from home, they're

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 1>less stressed because they're not dealing with the traffic, the

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 1>rush to make sure they're they're on toime. I'm feeling

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>like they're battling the other guy and the giant stuv

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 1>one lane over. Too often, stress sort of gets discounted,

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, like it's a real health issue, Like it's

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.640
<v Speaker 1>something that affects people. It affects their health, that affects

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 1>how their bodies function. And if you're able to allow

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>your employees to take care of their bodies, uh mentally,

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 1>but and physically, you're certainly going to see a decrease

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 1>in the expenses that go towards healthcare and you'll see

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.880
<v Speaker 1>your employees taking fewer sick days. So yeah, that's such

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:29.640
<v Speaker 1>an outed benefit as well. Your workers will show up

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 1>to work if they bike or walk or something like

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>that and a little more jazz. Yeah, they're not going

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 1>to drag in because they just came in on their bike.

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be totally pumped. Yeah, that's one of the

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>major benefits I've noticed when I started biking in was

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>that when I get to work, I was in gear. Man,

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I was ready. You know, you're not like dragging in, like, oh,

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Monday is am? I right? Yeah, let me get that

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>cup of coffee and then I'll sit down and start typing.

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>And you know, you sit down, you drink like a

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 1>leader of water and then you're like, let's do this.

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Feel like I just drink a can of Surge or

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:57.959
<v Speaker 1>something like that. You know, I'm ready to go. And

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 1>so I noticed the days I bike in, I'm better,

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm better me I'm a better employee, better Jimmy exactly. So, yeah,

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>it's the fewer sick days, and it's the increased energy

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 1>level when you're at work, and on top of that,

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>it's that building culture and loyalty. There's all these amazing

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>parks for employers if they will only incentivize their employees

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>and kind of create buy in on that level. I

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>see a lot of benefits for companies that are willing

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>to think outside the box and offer incentives to people

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>to to commute alternatively. Yeah. Man, I like how you

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 1>said culture again too, because like, if I had a

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 1>company with like a bunch of employees, like that's the

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of culture that I would be so excited to

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>try to create. I want to have a company where

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 1>the culture of the employees it is about biking and

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>like how fast they got there on their bike and

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 1>how fit they are, versus like the car culture of like,

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, I just got the latest so and so

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>late model truck, But you know what, you gotta get

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>it for the boat because you've also got that boat

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>payment and your truck payment. And I don't worry, I'll

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>have it paid off in eight years and citrated in

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 1>before then. And it almos sounds like hip right to say,

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, of course, Matt and jo All they're talking

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>about bite culture and how cool that is. Well, like,

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 1>it's not that it's just cooler, it's little. It's legitimately

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>better if you want to be healthier and be less stressed.

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I can objectively say that it is better.

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>It's not like hip or cool, it's it's something that

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>you will legitimately see a difference in your life and

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 1>and those around you that you interact with when you're

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 1>when you're making decisions that are not only benefiting yourself

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>but also the company that you work for. Yeah, and

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>just an example of talking about culture, our nation's culture

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>and how we approach this stuff, our nation as a whole,

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Like we don't care about this stuff and it's such

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>a bummer and we want to change that trend. Let's

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 1>do something about this, Matt, because it's ridiculous. And one

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>example of that is the bicycle commuter benefit. It was

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>a tax incentive that in this most recent legislation was

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 1>cut by the Senate. And so there used to be

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>employers were allowed to for a tax incentive to their

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 1>employees for commuting to work, and it wasn't all that much.

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure it was like twenty bucks a month. Now, yeah,

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>it was small, but it was to cover you know,

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>a flat tire or a tune up or whatever you

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>needed to do to your bike to kind of keep

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>it in shape. And I will say this, my employer

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't even offer it when it was available, which not cool. Yeah,

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I take that, um but cut by the Senate, And

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 1>that just goes to show that our culture as a

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 1>whole doesn't care about alternative commuting options and isn't invested

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 1>in this. And so let's change that from the top down.

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's create a culture in general that says this matters.

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 1>This is good for our bodies, and this is good

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 1>for our lives. Yeah, man, And not only is it

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>good for those things too, it's good for like the

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 1>cities that we live in in general. If there are

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 1>less individual cars on the road that are taking single

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>individuals from home to work and then back again, the

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>city as a whole is just gonna be more livable.

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>There's gonna be less congestion, people are gonna feel more

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 1>comfortable walking on the sidewalks, and the city as a

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>whole is just gonna be more comfortable and enjoyable place

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 1>to live. And I think when we're in our steel

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>boxes on the road with other people in their steel boxes,

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>it makes it easier to see each other as not human, right,

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 1>and will flip the bird or ride somebody's tail, whatever

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>it takes. But it makes it a really unpleasant way

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>to live. If you're on your bike or your feet

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>and you see people that you're passing or you have

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>a close encounter, you're way more likely to respond kindly

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 1>than you are in a steel box. There's something that

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 1>just cars pit each other against each other. Yeah, man,

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>it it just the humanizes everybody, yeah, man. And another

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 1>perk is it helps local businesses when employees are working

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>at a coffee shops or whatever, and so you save

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 1>money on commuting costs. But then guess what, walk down

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>to your local coffee shop and enjoy a cafe ola

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>or a latte or something like that. Right, And it

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>sounds like you must have recently been to France. I

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>just I love getting a coffee at a coffee shop.

0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I rarely do it, but man, I'll tell you what.

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I had a uple morning meetings last week at coffee shop,

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 1>and that coffee shop culture is so fun. It's so great.

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I love to drop three bucks and then get to

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 1>work from there. That day was absolute pleasure. And so

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, a lot of personal finance people

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>would say cut you have it, and while if that's

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 1>something that you're spending too much money on, maybe yeah,

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe that's okay. Yeah, but if you're cutting out car

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>commuting to work at your coffee shop with the free

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 1>WiFi and uh and and the three dollar coffee, that's awesome.

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it's great. And another thing, walking and biking

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>means more small business visits and more meeting your neighbors.

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Like we said, you're out of the steel box where

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 1>humans are pitted against each other reacting poorly, and you're

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>interacting with the people around you. It's just such a

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.480
<v Speaker 1>more wonderful experience. Yeah, I mean, you imagine you have

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 1>a forty five minute commute, right, so an hour and

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>a half say a day that you literally get to

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>do nothing that really adds value to your life, maybe

0:33:55.240 --> 0:34:00.400
<v Speaker 1>except for listening to awesome podcasts, uh subscribe, subscribe, But

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>just imagine during the middle of the day, you're sitting

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 1>there working and you know, you get out and go

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>for a thirty minute walk or something like that, stretch

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>out your legs, get the blood flow, and say, heyt

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 1>any neighbors. Yeah, Joe's totally good for the neighborhood. Um,

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and it helps toe when you're working from home, just

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 1>a little petty crimes. You know, we live in the

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 1>city and there's just you know, like the Amazon package

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of getting grabbed like that sort of thing is

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of happen more and more when half your block

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>works from home and they're all the home offices are

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 1>in the front of the house and you're looking out

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:27.799
<v Speaker 1>on the street like half of our block is those

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 1>guys don't really get away with that kind of stuff.

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 1>You're able to keep an eye out and you've got

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:34.879
<v Speaker 1>each other's back. Yeah, and ultimately it's better for our

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 1>environment as a whole. Cities that are built more around

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 1>bikes and walking paths usually public transit as well. Yeah,

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 1>usually have more green space. And yeah, we haven't really

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:47.240
<v Speaker 1>talked about public transit, but that's another great way. Although

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 1>that can be grueling too, at least you're able to

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 1>read a book or do something productive and thoughtful while

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>you're on your commute. Um, it's still good it's just

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 1>a different kind of good. But alternative commute options are

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 1>good for your environment, taking a car off the road

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>here and there. And the more we do that, you know,

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 1>it's less pollution in our cities, it's less clogging of

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the freeways and incentivizes more walking paths and green spaces

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>in our cities. Yea, and for people to want to

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>come and visit, you know again, and then what are

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 1>you doing. You're bringing in tourism. Like if all of

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 1>a sudden your city is fostering this sort of environment,

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 1>this sort of growth. That's better for the local businesses

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 1>and it's local, it's better for like tourism, folks are

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>coming in and ultimately that's that's kind of good for you.

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Like how fun is it to have a place where

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 1>you live and that you're proud of where people are

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 1>coming to visit because they're because they say, oh, this

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 1>is such a nice place. So I guess the question

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:37.919
<v Speaker 1>is when are we creating Matt Joel topia. I think

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 1>that might be what people are saying right now. So, yeah,

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 1>we've talked through the benefits. I guess we can do

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.439
<v Speaker 1>it on some city. Oh did you play some city

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>back in the day? Oh man, yeah, some city was

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 1>it was awesome. Man. We had this off this off

0:35:50.600 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 1>brand version as well, called a train. I never heard

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:54.800
<v Speaker 1>of it. Yeah, and we out there ever heard of

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 1>a train? Hit me up? It was sort of like

0:35:57.480 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 1>some city but less options. That was sort of focused

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>on me on train. Feel like the trained nerds, I think,

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:04.879
<v Speaker 1>but simp Steve was the bomb is awesome. It was good.

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 1>And so a lot of this might seem sort of

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 1>fire reaching, right. You might be thinking, oh, well, yeah,

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 1>this is great to say and talk about, but how

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 1>do you actually take the steps necessary in order to

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 1>make this reality? And that's what we want to focus

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:27.919
<v Speaker 1>on next. Yeah, maybe you can't bend the iron will

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 1>of your employer, but there are things that you can

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 1>do in practicality to make changes in your life. And

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:34.719
<v Speaker 1>let's first talk about what employers should do. I think

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 1>they should incentivize these things, and things they might need

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 1>to do is offer a safe storage place for bikes,

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.480
<v Speaker 1>and maybe some showers would be nice for really nice

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 1>yeah right, taking a long, long, long commute and you

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 1>don't want to freshen up before work, that'd be a

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:50.240
<v Speaker 1>great thing to offer. That being said, though, don't worry

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>if you were a little bit sweaty. I feel like

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>too much emphasis is placed on like everything being perfect.

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, obviously, if you've got a sales job and

0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>you're constantly meeting with clients, yeah, you may not want

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:00.960
<v Speaker 1>to bike into work that day. But yeah, if you

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 1>biked into work that day, get a little sweaty, keep

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>some Diotora and at work maybe like another extra T

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 1>shirt or something like that, it'll be fine. Yeah. I

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:08.960
<v Speaker 1>was talking to a lady at the park the other

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 1>day and she and her husband both biking to work,

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.360
<v Speaker 1>and they're both lawyers, and so I mean, if you

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 1>think you can't do this, like I feel like that's

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 1>an excuse, right, and you can do this. So for

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 1>those people that makes me so happy, man, Like, those

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>are the people we need to meet and spread the

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 1>help spread the gospel of biking in even if you

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 1>have a fancy job. Another thing that employers can do

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>is to offer a small amount of extra pay dedicated

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 1>towards bike expenses. And so it's not this huge rays

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>that you have to give your employees, but just that

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:41.239
<v Speaker 1>small amount of money in every paycheck ten dollars towards

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>bike expenses, towards tires, and towards those tune ups like

0:37:44.719 --> 0:37:49.720
<v Speaker 1>we talked about. That incentivizes employees to to make it happen.

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 1>That will cut your costs in the long run as

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 1>an employer, and it will create that culture that you're

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>looking for. Yeah, and a lot of companies do sometimes

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 1>offer that incentive. And then not necessarily if you biked

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:01.240
<v Speaker 1>into work, but it's just as long as you didn't

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Speaker 1>drive to work. And so I was actually talking to

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:05.839
<v Speaker 1>my buddy Tyler, and he works for a well known

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>company called mail Chimp. But I thought to myself, I

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 1>know that mail chimp's offering some sort of incentive because

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 1>that's just the kind of company they are. They do

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 1>awesome stuff like that. And I checked in with them

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 1>and sure enough, he was getting ninety bucks a month

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:20.080
<v Speaker 1>a month for not driving into work. That's amazing and

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:21.759
<v Speaker 1>then awesome. And so you can take that and you

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:23.880
<v Speaker 1>can put it towards running shoes if you're running in

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:26.880
<v Speaker 1>every morning, or or bike maintenance or public transit if

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:28.800
<v Speaker 1>if you need to put some of that money towards

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 1>a leg of your trip where you need to take

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:32.279
<v Speaker 1>the bus. So I love that and maybe, yeah, I

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:34.239
<v Speaker 1>thought that was awesome. Man, that's like, that's like chunk

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 1>of money. You know, like you wouldn't have to rapidfire

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 1>your car if if if you work for a company

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 1>that was offering us pretty sweet incentive, right, that's true.

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to hear your car wrapped up. It's gonna

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 1>look good. So yeah, I think that that's a really

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:47.959
<v Speaker 1>cool thing for employers. And you know what, just maybe

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>incentivize your employees to take alternative commuting options of the time.

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Even that would cut down on a lot of expenses

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 1>for you as an employer and would incentivize your employees

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:01.080
<v Speaker 1>to do something different, to get act I and to

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>at least look into doing something different with their commute. Yeah.

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 1>So those are steps that an employer could could potentially

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.800
<v Speaker 1>actively do right to make things a little more attractive

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 1>for their employees. The first thing you, as an employee

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 1>could do is just to ask to be able to

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:17.399
<v Speaker 1>work from home. That's something that may not necessarily be

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 1>in place already. There may not be a program. But

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.160
<v Speaker 1>if there's not a program, I guarantee you're not the

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:23.880
<v Speaker 1>only one thinking that, like, oh man, this would be

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 1>fantastic for our company. And maybe you're the third person

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:28.800
<v Speaker 1>to ask your boss that week, and you're the tipping

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:30.840
<v Speaker 1>point and he or she is like, wow, that's I

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 1>guess a lot of people are into this and I

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't know. And so maybe you're the tipping point that

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 1>tips the scales into the company pursuing letting people work

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 1>from home more often. Yeah, this is sort of a

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:42.320
<v Speaker 1>nod back to a couple episodes ago. We talked about

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:44.680
<v Speaker 1>asking for a discount, right how it kind of works

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 1>that muscle, and that's an easy thing to ask for.

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>You're not asking for a raise, you're just asking for

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 1>more flexibility. Yeah, this might seem ridiculous, but maybe it's

0:39:52.719 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 1>time to look for a new job. If your employer

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:58.360
<v Speaker 1>is unwilling to bend, maybe you can find employment closer

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 1>to where you are and with more flexible commute options.

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Especially we're in a hot labor market right now. There

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 1>are plenty of employers looking for skilled workers, and maybe

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 1>it's a time for you to work closer to home

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 1>than commuting becomes a whole lot easier. Yeah, something else

0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought of too, Man, just you talking about the

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:18.439
<v Speaker 1>hot labor market continually. The story right now is that

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>there isn't wage growth, and so what in another sweet

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 1>way to be able to sort of entice in good talent,

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 1>good employees with these extra benefits. Because employers currently really

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 1>aren't willing to increase wage rates, why not offer these

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>sweet incentives, you know, like give employees that the flexibility,

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 1>the options, or even incentivize a little bit here and

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 1>there to be able to attract that talent, attract and

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:44.880
<v Speaker 1>keep those employees. Are and some of those things involved,

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 1>right your employer saying yes or no. But there are

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 1>some things that you can do without having to consult

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:53.359
<v Speaker 1>your employer at all to change your commute. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So the first thing is just consider biking or walking

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:59.319
<v Speaker 1>to work or even taking public transit. These are things

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 1>that you can really start doing tomorrow morning, and it

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't require I mean, it requires some planning because you

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 1>need to figure out your oute, like how to get there,

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 1>how do I buy, how do I bike there? You

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:10.319
<v Speaker 1>need to figure out what bus or what train to take.

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.560
<v Speaker 1>But these are things that do not require any permission

0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 1>from anybody. You can start doing it now, and it

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:18.359
<v Speaker 1>is the best way to cut down on costs. If

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you're not commuting every day by yourself in a car,

0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:23.319
<v Speaker 1>you're foregoing all of these expenses that are associated with

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:25.920
<v Speaker 1>with with a car, and potentially you could even consider

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:28.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe even going without a car. You know how awesome

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:31.400
<v Speaker 1>would that be. Yeah, I challenge you to time your commute,

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:35.279
<v Speaker 1>use Google Maps and actually check out how long would

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>it take if I walked? How long would it take

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.239
<v Speaker 1>if I biked? And there was an article recently in

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 1>The New York Times that said people vastly overestimate how

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.480
<v Speaker 1>long would take to walk or bike to work. And

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:47.319
<v Speaker 1>so you might say that would take me an hour

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 1>and a half to bike to work, but it turns

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:51.799
<v Speaker 1>out it would only take you an hour, And well,

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 1>how long is you're commute taking you minutes? At least

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:57.440
<v Speaker 1>do the math. At least do the research and figure

0:41:57.440 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>out how long will biking or walking take you. You You

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:02.439
<v Speaker 1>might find out it's not as bad as you thought.

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 1>And in the end, you know what, you skip time

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 1>going to the gym because yes, you're getting fit just

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 1>on your commute. Yeah, you're getting fit and saving money

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 1>at the same time when when in car pooling. That's

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:15.319
<v Speaker 1>another great option to consider. Talk to people in the

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 1>office who might live close to you. If you don't know,

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:21.719
<v Speaker 1>maybe post something on the company Facebook page or messageboard

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 1>or your neighborhood community group online or something like that too.

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 1>There might be you may not be the same company,

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 1>but you might be going to like the same part

0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:29.719
<v Speaker 1>of town, and you know what, getting from your neighborhood

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:31.920
<v Speaker 1>to the same midtown or downtown or something like that

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:34.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe a lot easier than you realize when you're car pooling,

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:37.799
<v Speaker 1>no doubt. So this could allow you to have one

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:40.279
<v Speaker 1>less car as a family if you alternate driving with

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 1>your coworker, or maybe even if you're single, allow you

0:42:43.560 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 1>to have no car at all if you pay for

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 1>the gas for your ride share mate. Yes, so car

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 1>pooling can allow you to cut your car costs, your

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 1>insurance costs, your gas costs, and possibly even allow you

0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:56.680
<v Speaker 1>to have one less car as a family. And at

0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the very least, it just keeps you from having to

0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 1>sit behind the wheel, you know, save you're alternating, like

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:02.799
<v Speaker 1>you could just you know, at the very least, not

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:05.400
<v Speaker 1>have to drive every single day. You can just swap

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:07.800
<v Speaker 1>take it easy for half of the time. And the

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:10.360
<v Speaker 1>last thing, a more drastic measure, can you find a

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 1>job closer to where you live, or maybe move closer

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 1>to where you work. I think those are you know,

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:18.800
<v Speaker 1>bigger things. But let's say your leases up in two months,

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:21.640
<v Speaker 1>or you just really getting fed up with the commute

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:24.319
<v Speaker 1>that you're currently in. There are changes that you can make,

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:26.920
<v Speaker 1>and they're bigger, harder changes to make, but that doesn't

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 1>make them not feasible. So if you have a twenty

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:31.960
<v Speaker 1>five mile commute each way right now, consider whether you

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:34.400
<v Speaker 1>can do one of those things, either finding a job

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>that's closer to where you currently live or moving closer

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 1>to where you currently work. If you can do that,

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 1>it might even be worth an increased amount of rent

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:47.440
<v Speaker 1>or uh slightly higher mortgage payment if it changes your lifestyle,

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:50.440
<v Speaker 1>adds more hours back into your life every day and

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 1>allows you to commute alternatively and cut down on your

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 1>car costs, and you know what, clear your head and

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 1>get more fit at the same time by commuting via

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:00.799
<v Speaker 1>bike or walking or public ends. It you'd be able

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 1>to pay a little bit more for something that wasn't

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:05.640
<v Speaker 1>literally killing me every day. Right. Yeah, So much of

0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:08.280
<v Speaker 1>this is costing you money and is hurting your body

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:10.640
<v Speaker 1>all the sitting that we're doing. But then on top

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 1>of that, it's cramping your lifestyle and it's sucking your

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:16.799
<v Speaker 1>time and your time is so valuable. I just can't

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.800
<v Speaker 1>imagine commuting every day for that long of a period

0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:21.480
<v Speaker 1>of time. And that's why I think one of the

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:23.399
<v Speaker 1>important things to do is to kind of write down

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 1>how much this is actually costing you when it comes

0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 1>to your car, when it comes to your time. That

0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 1>might give you the kick in the pants you need

0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.319
<v Speaker 1>to ask your employer for something, or to even make

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 1>a drastic change like moving or finding new employment. All right, Joel,

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>back to this lovely delicious beer. I gotta tell you,

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't have much else to say. I mean, it's perfect. Yeah,

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 1>it really is good in a blind taste. Ut Like

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 1>if I put this next to some like thirty dollar

0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:50.000
<v Speaker 1>bombers from some of the best sour Flanders red guys

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 1>out there as today making them, I think this one

0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 1>would crush man. Now, I know, it's so stink and good.

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 1>And we felt that way about a lot of the

0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 1>beers he's made. And uh, and he's made um of

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the best doubts I've ever had in my life. Yeah,

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:05.520
<v Speaker 1>this is like his magnum opus. Yeah, this is like

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:08.799
<v Speaker 1>his love letter to my heart. I think this beer

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:11.400
<v Speaker 1>right here, it's it's actually the splinter in my mind.

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:14.360
<v Speaker 1>That's what it's called. It's again, this is a splinter

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:19.319
<v Speaker 1>in the mind by Little Cottage Brewery, Little Cottage Brewery,

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's an American sour specifically though it's a his

0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:26.239
<v Speaker 1>interpretation of a Flanders red. And I will say, if

0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:28.400
<v Speaker 1>you ever get your hands on this, which you won't,

0:45:28.760 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 1>you'll never ever get to taste this. But if you did,

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 1>it's delicious and you should pick one up. But you

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 1>never will get to try this beer because it's it's homebrew. Sorry,

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 1>all right, Matt, let's wrap it up. Also, the solution

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:43.920
<v Speaker 1>to traditional car commuting to work are a number of things,

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 1>but we're looking at We're talking about biking, we're talking

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 1>about walking, public transit, car poling, and working from home.

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:53.440
<v Speaker 1>So it benefits employees because it's less stressful when you

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:55.680
<v Speaker 1>don't have to commute in every day, When you don't

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:57.399
<v Speaker 1>have to drive in every day to work, you're less

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 1>stressed and you're happier. Yeah, Matt, you know, I'm down

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 1>with saving money. And it lowers your transportation costs as well,

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:07.879
<v Speaker 1>which is huge. Yeah, And having more of that personal flexibility, man,

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:11.839
<v Speaker 1>that is such a big selling point for millennials and

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 1>for young families as well to have kids that need

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 1>that flexibility. Yeah, and you know what, employers see a

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:21.919
<v Speaker 1>huge benefit to first off, flexibility and incentives to commute alternatively,

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:25.839
<v Speaker 1>attract better employees and create ultimately a better culture and

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:29.440
<v Speaker 1>more loyalty from the employees you currently have and hiring

0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:32.160
<v Speaker 1>and firing that's such a huge cost associated with employees.

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Another way that employers are able to save in general

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:36.719
<v Speaker 1>when you've got alternative commuting options is you're gonna be

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 1>able to lower the healthcare costs that you spend on

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:41.120
<v Speaker 1>your employees. And there are other costs that you can

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 1>lower as an employer as well, like money spent on

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:47.760
<v Speaker 1>parking spaces and workspace. In general, when you offer increased

0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:52.759
<v Speaker 1>flexibility and commuting alternatives and also benefits employees and benefits

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the employer, it also benefits your city as a whole.

0:46:56.239 --> 0:46:59.400
<v Speaker 1>The less individual car traffic that there is, the more livable,

0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the more one full of your CD is going to

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:03.239
<v Speaker 1>be and and ultimately that's what we all want in

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:05.319
<v Speaker 1>in the place that we live and work. Yeah, so

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:08.040
<v Speaker 1>what do you do next, Well, you take action, You

0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:10.480
<v Speaker 1>do something. The first thing you can do is to

0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:13.919
<v Speaker 1>ask your boss, ask your employer. If you can work

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:16.680
<v Speaker 1>from home, maybe it starts off at one day a week,

0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 1>but that's at least a good place to start. But

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 1>if you don't have the option to work from home,

0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:24.040
<v Speaker 1>consider some of the alternatives like walking or biking public transit,

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:26.759
<v Speaker 1>and even if those may not work for you, at

0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:29.280
<v Speaker 1>the very least you can try card pooling. Yeah. And ultimately,

0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:31.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of this comes down to creating a better

0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 1>lifestyle for yourself, not even just saving money and hitting

0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the nuclear option like finding a job closer to where

0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:40.440
<v Speaker 1>you live or moving closer to where you work, can

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:44.839
<v Speaker 1>be the ultimate best solution for fixing your commuting problems. Yeah,

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Because while it might seem like the nuclear option, right,

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:49.720
<v Speaker 1>it seems like such a huge thing to do. In reality,

0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:53.080
<v Speaker 1>if you're reprioritizing your life and focusing on what's actually important,

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:54.520
<v Speaker 1>it might be a lot easier for you to shift

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 1>things around. Yeah. And it's way better than an hour

0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:58.879
<v Speaker 1>and a half in a car every day, five days

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.520
<v Speaker 1>a week, just to get back and forth to work. Yeah. Yeah, man,

0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:03.920
<v Speaker 1>that's a good word. Hopefully your listeners are able to

0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:06.600
<v Speaker 1>at least take one thing from this. There's a lot

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:08.440
<v Speaker 1>of options that we presented in a lot of benefits

0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:11.359
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully that gave you, guys some AMMO, some some

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 1>information to be able to say either go to your

0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:15.560
<v Speaker 1>employer with or at least the very least to encourage

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:18.880
<v Speaker 1>yourself to consider some of these options to the hard task,

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:21.799
<v Speaker 1>the drudgery of of commuting to work by yourself every

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:24.359
<v Speaker 1>single day. All right, everyone, thanks for listening, And if

0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:26.279
<v Speaker 1>you are listening in your car right now, thank you

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:29.600
<v Speaker 1>for listening. You know, Joel, you don't have to be

0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:32.080
<v Speaker 1>driving your car to listen to podcast too. You can

0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:34.640
<v Speaker 1>be on public trains. It right, we're taking a walk

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:37.879
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0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:40.160
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0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:41.960
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0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:45.320
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0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:47.359
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0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:51.080
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0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:52.399
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