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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody. Thursday edition of Clay and

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Speaker 1: Buck kicks off right now. We've got a lot to

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Speaker 1: talk to you about today. Some big things going on

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Speaker 1: out there. Housing affordability according to National Association Realtors worst

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Speaker 1: on record, some more statistics about carjackings in our nation's

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Speaker 1: capital we'll share with you later. Hunter Biden owes over

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Speaker 1: ten million illegal bills. Lawyers can be very expensive. The

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Speaker 1: CDC has stopped printing COVID vaccine card, something we shall

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Speaker 1: certainly discuss. And then an update on the Biden dog

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Speaker 1: commander that I will want to share with all of you,

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Speaker 1: just because I find this to be fascinating and something

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Speaker 1: of a window into the energy in this White House.

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Speaker 1: I will explain. We will explain that in just a

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Speaker 1: little bit, but by far today's story of the day

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Speaker 1: for me, as someone who has been pushing on the

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Speaker 1: issue of border security now for really as long as

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Speaker 1: I've been doing media, ever since I left the CIA,

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Speaker 1: I think it's critical. I think it's essential. And not

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Speaker 1: only did I believe the chance of build the wall

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Speaker 1: when that was I think the single most maybe lock

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Speaker 1: her up, but it was either build the wall in

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen or lock her up. That Trump

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Speaker 1: rallies were best remembered for I think as a single

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Speaker 1: chant build the wall. We all remember build the wall.

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Speaker 1: And there was this fascinating period where Democrats were telling

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Speaker 1: us all that walls don't work. This was actually the

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Speaker 1: line that they used, walls don't work, which was a

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Speaker 1: surprise clay to all human beings for the last few

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Speaker 1: thousand years who have used walls like quite effectively.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Also for all.

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Speaker 3: Of the super left wing rich people who live in

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Speaker 3: gated communities, that was the part that always just never

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Speaker 3: if that's not true, why do you live in a

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Speaker 3: gated community? Why is there a guard shack?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: Why if walls aren't effective, why do you choose to

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Speaker 3: live behind one.

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Speaker 1: I just want to remind everybody what under Trump when

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Speaker 1: it came to the border wall, which was more than

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Speaker 1: any other single issue, something a policy idea that Trump

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Speaker 1: really ran with and originally originally Trump and Anne Coulter

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Speaker 1: were very aligned on this issue, and she wrote about

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Speaker 1: this in her book Audios America and was a big

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Speaker 1: proponent of this. I remember the earliest days of the

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Speaker 1: Trump campaign in twenty fifteen. Here we have a montage,

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Speaker 1: though we needed a montage for this one of Democrats

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Speaker 1: talking about walls at the border. Play number two, build

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Speaker 1: a wall. We do not agree with the building of

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Speaker 1: the wall, a racist and synophobic wall. Walls don't work

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Speaker 1: in this twenty first century.

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Speaker 4: We know that walls don't work, that they don't stop drugs,

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Speaker 4: that they don't stop migration.

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Speaker 1: We spent years investing in a faulty border wall that

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Speaker 1: was never going to be an effective mechanism.

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Speaker 5: Waste taxpayer dollars on an ineffective wall. Again, an ineffective

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Speaker 5: wall that can't even withstand heavy winds.

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Speaker 3: The wall is anise you in moral, expensive, unwise.

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Speaker 1: We know that walls do not save lives. Walls end lives.

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Speaker 1: There will not be another foot of wall constructed on

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Speaker 1: my administration. Clay that was ending there. With Biden's part,

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Speaker 1: we could have run a montage for the first hour

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Speaker 1: of the show of walls don't work and walls are inhumane,

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Speaker 1: Biden promising none of their foot of walls. CNN today,

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Speaker 1: everybody today. Here there is the story the Biden administration

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Speaker 1: will waive twenty six federal laws to build additional border

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Speaker 1: barriers in the Rio Grande Valley, according to the Federal Register,

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Speaker 1: because of the high level of illegal entries. Clay the

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Speaker 1: Biden White House is building that wall.

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Speaker 3: If we had an honest media, if we even had

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Speaker 3: a media that was interested in pointing out rank hypocrisy,

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Speaker 3: they would fullay the Biden administration over this because someone

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Speaker 3: seven million, whatever it is, illegal immigrants that might be

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Speaker 3: low who have come in since Joe Biden got elected president.

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Speaker 3: To me, what this is ultimately a sign of buck

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Speaker 3: Democrats in big cities are finally saying this is unacceptable.

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Speaker 3: We can't handle this. And I think we've got an

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Speaker 3: Mayor of New York, Eric Adams, is currently on a

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Speaker 3: tour all throughout South America, Latin America, going to a

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Speaker 3: to America, which is crazy in its own right given

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Speaker 3: This is the chief advisor to New York City Mayor

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Speaker 5: The federal government needs to do his job. We need

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Speaker 5: the federal government, the Congress, members, the Senate, and the

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Speaker 5: President to do his job. Close the boarders. And until

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Speaker 5: you close the boarders, you need to come up with

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Speaker 5: a full on decompression strategy where you can take all

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Speaker 5: of our migrants and move them throughout our fifty states.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's a day broke it. The Democrat policy

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Speaker 3: on immigration. Buck has broken the United States and they

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Speaker 3: now are scrambling. As we sent thirteen months out from

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Speaker 3: the election. Biden's numbers are bad on virtually everything. I

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Speaker 3: you at the top of the next hour in terms

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Speaker 3: of just how bad things are for Joe Biden. But

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Speaker 3: of all of his failures, the border is number one.

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Speaker 3: In terms of the most recent number I saw, said

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Speaker 3: twenty three percent of American support and approve of what

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden is doing at the border. To give Biden credit,

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Speaker 3: he said he was going to unite America. He managed

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Speaker 3: to unite America in a belief that he has failed

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Speaker 3: utterly on the border in many other issues. But if

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Speaker 3: you're talking about building a wall now, I don't even know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if I'm Trump, I have a press conference

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Speaker 3: in New York City. I don't know if he's still there. Actually,

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Speaker 3: I think he went back to mar A Lago. But

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Speaker 3: I have a press conference on again. I would go

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Speaker 3: to the southern border and I would have a press

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Speaker 3: conference down there. Bring everybody with you and acknowledge that

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden has now basically confirmed that everything Trump did

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Speaker 3: on the border was the right decision. And buck remember

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Speaker 3: how much Joe Biden has actually endorsed a lot of

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Speaker 3: Trump policies now now the border, But China, I mean,

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Speaker 3: has Biden changed anything in terms of tariffs, in terms

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Speaker 3: of relationship with China since he got into the office

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Speaker 3: that Trump did. Remember how Democrats all said, oh, my goodness,

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Speaker 3: if we ever try to take China on, the global

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Speaker 3: economy will collapse.

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Speaker 1: There's no way we can do this. The media hasn't.

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Speaker 3: Covered it, But Joe Biden hasn't overturned hardly any of

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Speaker 3: the relationship decisions that Trump made on China. And now

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Speaker 3: he's effectively endorsed, seing everything that Trump ran on in

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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen as being the right choice.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know. You know, when you can think.

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Speaker 3: About and we'll talk about some during the course of

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Speaker 3: the program, Buck, when you think about how wrong Democrats

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Speaker 3: were on defund the police, and now how wrong they've

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Speaker 3: been on the border, and how wrong they've been on COVID. Again,

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Speaker 3: if we had an honest media, and if we had

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Speaker 3: politicians have to bear the consequences for being wrong, which

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Speaker 3: is what should happen. When you're bad at your job,

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Speaker 3: you should lose your job. That's how American capitalism works.

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Speaker 3: I keep hammering it because I think a lot of

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Speaker 3: people had started to recognize, like, we're holding the Chicago

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Speaker 3: Bears head football coach to a higher standard of job

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Speaker 3: performance than we are the Biden administration. Like the Bears,

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Speaker 3: for people who don't know, have lost fourteen straight games,

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Speaker 3: and people are like, this is unacceptable, Like we got

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Speaker 3: to burn down the whole franchise and start all over again.

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Speaker 3: How is it that we have a higher standard of

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Speaker 3: expected job performance for football coaches than we do for politicians.

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Speaker 1: Like the answer to the answer to the question is

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Speaker 1: that there Uh, it's like they've set up a situation

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Speaker 1: where the other, the other coach Clay, who could take over,

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Speaker 1: would destroy the entire NFL. Right, that's the really not

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Speaker 1: only that he's a Nazi, Yes, he's a Nazi who

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Speaker 1: would destroy the entire NFL and burn all of the

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Speaker 1: stadiums to the ground. That is the juxtaposition to to

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Speaker 1: you know, really belabor the analogy here. But that is

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Speaker 1: the juxtaposition that we're talking about, and why Biden's job

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Speaker 1: performance isn't assessed the way you would any any other

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Speaker 1: uh in a in normal circumstances, right, because we're in

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Speaker 1: an abnormal political environment. We have Trump facing all these

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Speaker 1: court all these court dates, all these indictments, Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden. The whole thing is just it's a circus

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Speaker 1: to the degree the rest of the world pays attention

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Speaker 1: to our politics. Not that I care what they think,

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Speaker 1: but they've got to find this pretty amusing.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: The whole situation playing out here is kind of crazy.

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Speaker 1: On the border though, bring it all back. It is

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Speaker 1: so bad that and ands it Clay. It's so bad

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Speaker 1: in a way that they can't hide it. And that's

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Speaker 1: why the bussing program and all this that they've set

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Speaker 1: up of sending migrants to New York particularly has been

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Speaker 1: so effective because most of open border's reality in this

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Speaker 1: what's the strain on any individual community if you don't

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Speaker 1: to look at in New York and what the expenditures

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Speaker 1: are Clayed twelve billion. I mean, New York City has

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Speaker 1: I'm probably it's probably gonna be fifteen or twenty billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: So you've got a Biden Whitehouse that's got at least

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Speaker 1: make it seem like they want this to stop. But

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Speaker 1: here's my thought for you, Clay might be a headfake.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure even with things as they are, that

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Speaker 1: if Biden could and the Democrats had their way, they

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Speaker 1: want to convince people they're tough on the border for

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Speaker 1: to where we've been.

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Speaker 3: Well, Buck, also, I would say, I think you're right.

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Speaker 3: I think also that this is a sign that Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden is planning on running, right, because we've been talking about, Hey,

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Speaker 3: when would he make the decision? When could they force

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Speaker 3: him out? We didn't discuss it. But it's worth noting

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Speaker 3: that yesterday a Quinnipiac poll came out that had Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump up two points in Pennsylvania. If that were true,

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Speaker 3: if Trump wins Pennsylvania, the election's over. There's no way

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Speaker 3: that Joe Biden is going to win the election, right,

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Speaker 3: because that would mean Trump would likely win Wisconsin, that

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Speaker 3: he would be winning a lot of close states. Just

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Speaker 3: factor that in. But Buck, to me, if Biden weren't

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Speaker 3: going to run, he wouldn't be undertaking this decision because

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Speaker 3: he'd be saying, Okay, that's somebody else that has to

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Speaker 3: worry about it. I don't want to look like such

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Speaker 3: a huge hypocrite and make this decision on the border, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean that, So the fact that he's willing to

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Speaker 3: seeing this these polling numbers, and I think they're probably

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Speaker 3: saying we could lose the twenty twenty four election now

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Speaker 3: just based on immigration.

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Speaker 1: If you had to pick one issue that allowed Trump

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Speaker 1: Klay Travis and Buck Sexton. Welcome back. Team. We have

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Speaker 1: Stephen Miller with us now former Trump senior advisor. He's

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Speaker 1: currently the President of America First Legal Steven, our buddy.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you back, Great to be here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Can we start with the border because you were, in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be very careful here not to engage

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Speaker 2: body administration is objective here remains completely unchanged, which is

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Speaker 2: I can assure you, is try to funnel people into

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Speaker 2: a normal enforcement setting, the walls create a funneling effect

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Speaker 2: In this case, it's the exact opposite. It's about funneling

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Speaker 1: You have been outspoken.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for coming on with us, Stephen, about a lot

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Speaker 3: of different issues here, one hundred percent right on the border.

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Speaker 3: What do you think about what's going on in the House?

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Speaker 3: And I'm going to ask you a couple of questions

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Speaker 3: There are reports that he's going to DC potentially on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's a lot of great questions there. Let

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Speaker 2: with respect to what happened to Kevin McCarthy, full disclosure here,

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Speaker 2: I'm sad for what happened to him. My basic principle

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Speaker 2: do a discharge petition to give citizenship to twelve million

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Speaker 2: As to the next step. So if your house burns down,

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Speaker 2: And it is an unruly conference that agrees on you

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Speaker 3: So this is really interesting, by the way, I start

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Speaker 2: Well, he's a master negotiator, obviously, so he's keeping his

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Stephen Miller, he's the President of America. First

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Speaker 2: Well, if we listed in the country that just made

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Speaker 2: Electoral Count Act is him conducting official activity. The things

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Speaker 2: that are not in that realm, the things that we

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Speaker 2: would be talking about it wouldn't be in that realm,

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Speaker 2: would be for example, if you if you like poison

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Speaker 2: somebody or something, or if you if you walked up

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Speaker 2: into the street and just a punched a guy in

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Speaker 2: the face and we're you know, charged with assault. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's these are these are very clear lines. These aren't

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Speaker 2: hard to delineate between when a president is being a

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Speaker 2: president or so when a private citizen is doing what

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Speaker 2: a private citizen does in their own lives. I mean,

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Speaker 2: simple way to think about it as this, if there's

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Speaker 2: an action that you couldn't do if you weren't president,

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Speaker 2: then that's more of a private action.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: So in other words, no private citizen has the ability

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Speaker 2: to have the Department of Justice. Right, take a look

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Speaker 2: at election from right, it's the thing that you could

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Speaker 2: only do as president. Then, definitionally, these are your official

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Speaker 2: presidential duties. The argument that the other side makes and

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Speaker 2: I apologize or filibustering here, but the radical left makes it.

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Speaker 2: They say, oh no, no, these are camp activities. No, they're

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Speaker 2: not campaign activities. This is in the post election period

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Speaker 2: when the question of fraud is being litigated, which is

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Speaker 2: a law enforcement question. And by the way, if there's even.

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Speaker 6: A debate over it, then the immunity applies because if

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Speaker 6: you have the view that even which I don't, but

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Speaker 6: even if you said, well, there's an argument on both sides,

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Speaker 6: the mere fact that they're.

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Speaker 2: Being an argument means that it is immune, because otherwise

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Speaker 2: the immunity means nothing. In other words, if someone in

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Speaker 2: the future from a different party can say, well, I

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Speaker 2: don't think this was an official action, then the immunity

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Speaker 2: for example, if a president orders an air strike before

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Speaker 2: an election, and people think that the air strike was

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Speaker 2: designed to help us campaign and innocent people die. Should

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Speaker 2: And of course this isn't that because we're talking about

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Speaker 1: You know you never had to carry one of these

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Speaker 1: if you lived in New York City, you had no choice.

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Speaker 1: These vaccine passport, the vaccine passport, a little white I am.

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Speaker 3: So glad that I never had one of these ever

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Speaker 3: in my possession.

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Speaker 1: It was in New York City for a time. Something

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Speaker 1: that would be checked so that you could go to restaurants,

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Speaker 1: checked so that you could go into your office building

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Speaker 1: where you work. I remember there was like a special

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Speaker 1: process to get into Fox News, you know that people

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Speaker 1: were you had to shut it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't travel to do any Fox News hits because

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Speaker 3: I wasn't allowed in the building.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So these were the procedures that were in place,

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Speaker 1: and they gave you this passport. Now, what I think

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Speaker 1: is worth remembering about all of this is they were

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Speaker 1: The entire thing was wrong, and there has never been

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Speaker 1: this day been a an acknowledgment. I'm speaking specifically about

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Speaker 1: the vaccine passport program. It was about as wrong as

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Speaker 1: the Test and Trace program, which by June of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: I was doing radio shows play just endlessly ridiculing the

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Speaker 1: Test and Trace program of New York City because I

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Speaker 1: was able to figure out that if you you know,

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Speaker 1: flew out of state came back and you had to

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Speaker 1: like register as if different state can remember they were

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Speaker 1: telling us, oh, this state has more cases in that

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Speaker 1: state or whatever. If you flew out of state came back,

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Speaker 1: you would get an automated text message or phone call

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Speaker 1: like three weeks maybe after you'd returned. That was supposed

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Speaker 1: to be like checking up on you to make sure

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Speaker 1: you've been social distancing it was such a waste. The

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Speaker 1: whole thing was so utterly stupid, pointless, and but also tyrannical.

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Speaker 1: And and I look at these little, these little white

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Speaker 1: pieces of paper that people had to carry around everywhere,

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Speaker 1: and they premised this on, you have to do this

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Speaker 1: because if you don't, you are dangerous to the people

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Speaker 1: around you. You are endangering the lives of everybody you

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Speaker 1: come into contact with. If you don't, don't have a

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Speaker 1: vaccine passport. And then we found out that the vaccines.

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Speaker 1: You'll notice they didn't even say anymore at all for COVID,

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Speaker 1: the vaccines do not stop you from getting or giving

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Speaker 1: COVID to people at all, period zero, no difference whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: At best, they will say, the vaccines, we'll have some effect,

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Speaker 1: some effect on hospitalization and death. That's the thing that

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Speaker 1: they will cling to up to this point. But the

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Speaker 1: whole program play was built on this is so everyone

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Speaker 1: is safe being around each other. But the very purpose

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Speaker 1: of that safety was a fiction. It was a figment.

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Speaker 1: It was nonsense. And no one has, like the CDC

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Speaker 1: has never come out and said we're sorry. This is

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Speaker 1: kind of a metaphor for everything that's happened with COVID.

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Speaker 1: They're just stopping. They're just not making vaccine passports anymore.

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Speaker 1: They made eight or nine hundred million of them. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I get so mad about this every time it comes up.

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Speaker 1: No consequences and let me just mention this speakin of

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Speaker 1: no consequences state of Kentucky. But there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of Kentuckians that listen to this show every day. We

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Speaker 1: are one of the top rated shows, if not the

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Speaker 1: top rated shows statewide in Kentucky. Right now, Daniel Cameron

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Speaker 1: is running against Andy Basheer. If you are listening to

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Speaker 1: us right now and you're like, well, I didn't live

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Speaker 1: in New York City. I never had to get one

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Speaker 1: of those vaccine passport cards to walk around.

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Speaker 3: Andy Basheer did in Kentucky. The largest amount of tyranny

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Speaker 3: that has occurred on behalf of the government in any

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Speaker 3: of your lives. I couldn't believe buck, the difference between

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Speaker 3: the state of Kentucky and my home state of Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: During COVID, kids in Louisville schools shut down wearing masks forever.

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Speaker 3: If you reelect Andy Shear in Kentucky, a state frankly

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Speaker 3: where he never should have been elected. This is a

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Speaker 3: Democrat governor never should have been elected in the first place.

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Speaker 3: That is a fundamental failure of your voting process in

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Speaker 3: the state of Kentucky. And I know there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of smart Kentuckians. My family is all Kentuckians. They came

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Speaker 3: down to Nashville to work in the DuPont factory. They're

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Speaker 3: from Eulenberg County, Kentucky. My dad's whole family is from Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: A lot of the Travis family is still in the

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Speaker 3: Kentucky all over the state of Kentucky. All my great

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Speaker 3: grandparents are buried. Great great grandparents are buried in Mulenberg County.

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Speaker 3: This is an important election. It's probably the biggest toss

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Speaker 3: up election in twenty twenty three. And to me, Buck,

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Speaker 3: we still have seen zero consequences from all these failures.

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Speaker 3: Democrats just keep re electing the people who were wrong

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Speaker 3: on everything related to COVID and Kentucky. If you elect

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Speaker 3: reelect Andy Basheer, you're effectively rubber stamping his tyranny that

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Speaker 3: he ran roughshod over everyone in Kentucky. You've got to

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Speaker 3: vote for Daniel Cameron. I'm fired up about this election.

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Speaker 3: We need to get Daniel on the show again. He's

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Speaker 3: a great candidate. He should win all of it. You know,

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Speaker 3: I like to look at betting markets. He's the underdog

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Speaker 3: right now. Right now, Andy Basheer, the tyrannical governor of

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Speaker 3: Kentucky who shut down that state the likes of which

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Speaker 3: no other southern state was shut down during COVID. Kentuckians

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Speaker 3: are going to give him four more years of power.

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Speaker 3: I just I think it's indefensible and I'm fire up

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Speaker 3: about that race.

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Speaker 1: I know there are other considerations for people, and I

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Speaker 1: understand that voting brings in a whole range of not

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Speaker 1: only policies, but also emotions and how does it make

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Speaker 1: you feel to vote for this person or for this cause.

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Speaker 1: But if if what people went through during COVID in

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Speaker 1: some of these places, I mean, the fact that Kentucky

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Speaker 1: had extreme COVID measures is mind blowing, honest. I know,

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Speaker 1: I know, it's just completely uh, you know, it should

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Speaker 1: be an outrage and and it's a really it's a

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Speaker 1: really sad part of a great states, you know, recent history.

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Speaker 1: But it's true in so many of these places. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the CDC, you'd have to wonder, at Clay, why aren't

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Speaker 1: they making more vaccine passports? Like? What what happened? What

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Speaker 1: happened to the program? Guys? I thought this was necessary

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Speaker 1: to keep us all safe.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: They also were trying to do the oh, we're combining everything,

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Speaker 1: so now for flu season to get your get your

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Speaker 1: flu shot and your your COVID shot.

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Speaker 3: That was the play they were gonna mess the Travis

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Speaker 3: Kelsey special. Why he's getting called mister Pfizer by our

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Speaker 3: friend Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: But yes, and Kelsey absolutely deserves it, and he deserves

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Speaker 1: the song about the forthcoming nasty breakup that he has

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Speaker 1: with miss Taylor Swift at some point. So, look, I

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Speaker 1: think all of these different policies and all these different

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Speaker 1: COVID excesses are things that that are a window into

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Speaker 1: what happens when you have people are scared and government

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Speaker 1: becomes authoritarian. Uh and and so it's not just a

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Speaker 1: question of oh, but I'm upset about COVID. It's for

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Speaker 1: the future of this country. I think it's important everyone

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Speaker 1: knows why what happened is so bad and can never

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Speaker 1: be allowed to happen again. You know, It's it's about

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Speaker 1: what kind of a nation we are. When they were

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Speaker 1: shutting down churches and all these things, shutting down churches

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Speaker 1: but kept the weed stores open. I mean, the things

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Speaker 1: that they were doing were so above and you know,

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Speaker 1: so beyond the lines, such violations of sacred in some

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Speaker 1: cases sacred constitutional trust. And I know that it's just okay,

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Speaker 1: the CDC is not making these little white pieces of

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Speaker 1: paper anymore. But they made people carry I mean, it

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Speaker 1: was you know, show me your papers, I'm to show

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Speaker 1: me your papers law, and this was something that you know,

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Speaker 1: they they were really nasty about it, and that people

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Speaker 1: were arrested for refusing to comply a lot of people

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Speaker 1: were fired from their jobs for refusing to comply. And

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Speaker 1: you know, where is in all of this? I would wonder,

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Speaker 1: why isn't there Republican candidate? Are any the Republican candidates

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Speaker 1: saying that they would you know, rehire with back pay

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Speaker 1: anybody in the National Guard or anybody in the military

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Speaker 1: who was forced out because of a COVID vaccine. I

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Speaker 1: feel like these wrongs have not been righted. And maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm just still focused on this because this was I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I think this was the biggest trend I

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Speaker 1: would have.

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Speaker 3: Been if I have been living in your apartment in

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Speaker 3: New York City during COVID like you were.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not even kidding. I would have gone

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Speaker 1: absolutely bonkers.

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Speaker 2: To me.

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Speaker 3: The only reason to live in New York City, unless

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Speaker 3: you're so rich that you have an incredible house to

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Speaker 3: live in or a condo apartment, whatever, is to be

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Speaker 3: able to experience the city like you don't. Most average

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Speaker 3: people don't live in New York City because they love

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Speaker 3: their small apartments. It's because you get to experience the city.

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Speaker 3: You were shut down from all of that and basically

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Speaker 3: said stay in your tiny little apartment and don't go

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Speaker 3: outside or you're gonna kill people.

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Speaker 1: I was. I was guilted into a birthday dinner in

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Speaker 1: January of I think it was twenty twenty one, I

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Speaker 1: want to say, you know, and only outdoor dining was allowed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's freezing. It was like twenty degrees outside. They had

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Speaker 1: this little like heat lamp or something. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: felt like one of those guys on the shows where

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Speaker 1: you watch them building a little hut up near the Arctic,

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Speaker 1: and the whole thing is like can they stay alive?

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you know you're just watching. You're like

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Speaker 1: under you know, three snuggies, and you've got you know,

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Speaker 1: a big order of like you know, pizza or china,

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Speaker 1: these food you're chowing down. You're watching somebody like trying

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Speaker 1: to stay warm. You know, Life below Zero. That's one

683
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Speaker 1: of those shows, you know, those kinds of things. I

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Speaker 1: was that guy. It was like twenty degrees sitting outside

685
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Speaker 1: because it made people safer from a virus that is

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Speaker 1: basically you know, at that point had already become less dangerous.

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Speaker 1: It was more like a cold for most people anyway,

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Speaker 1: for ninety nine point whatever percent of people who got it.

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget this stuff.

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Speaker 3: We can't even point to a politician who bore any

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Speaker 3: consequences for the decisions that he or she made that

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Speaker 3: were wrong on COVID. And that's why circling back around

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Speaker 3: to everyone who's listening to us right now in Kentucky,

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Speaker 3: I understand everybody's busy. I understand that sometimes elections fly

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Speaker 3: kind of under the radar. Because Kentucky has this governor's

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Speaker 3: race in twenty twenty three, and a lot of people

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Speaker 3: are already focused on twenty twenty four. You need to

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Speaker 3: show up and vote for Daniel Cameron. Don't forget what

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Speaker 3: Andy Basheer, did he you in twenty twenty In twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty one, he made you your kids couldn't go to school,

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Speaker 3: your kids had to wear masks. Kentucky, uniquely among Southern states,

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Speaker 3: was shut down indefensively. Now, look, Buck, you know what

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Speaker 3: happened in Virginia. They said, we're going to vote a

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Speaker 3: Republican in Glenn Youngkin. People in Virginia, which is a

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Speaker 3: much bluer state than Kentucky, they said, hey, now it

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Speaker 3: wasn't an incumbent because you can only serve one term

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Speaker 3: in Virginia. But they voted in Glenn Youngkin. I think

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Speaker 3: that was certainly connected to COVID twenty twenty one. They

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Speaker 3: almost voted out the governor Phil Murphy, the Democrat governor

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Speaker 3: of New Jersey. It got close in that race. Nobody

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Speaker 3: saw that coming. Kentucky, you have an opportunity to actually

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Speaker 3: force a reckoning on a political figure who got everything

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Speaker 3: wrong on COVID, and he should have never been elected

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Speaker 3: in the first place because you're a red state. To

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Speaker 3: be really disappointed if if Andy Basheer wins, Daniel Cameron

716
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Speaker 3: is an infinitely better choice. Not even to mention the

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Speaker 3: Mitch McConnell health situation, which could blow up in two

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Speaker 3: I hope it doesn't, but it could blow up into

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Speaker 3: a huge issue. Andy Basheer is saying that he's not

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Speaker 3: gonna abide by Kentucky law and appoint a Republican in

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Speaker 3: the event that there's a health related issue.

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Speaker 1: We just saw what happen with Diane Feinstein. I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you, Kentucky, you don't want to disappoint Clay.

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Speaker 1: He is way less fun when he's disappointed. So you know,

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Speaker 1: step up. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be.

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Speaker 3: I was already disappointed in a lot of the decisions

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Speaker 3: that were made in twenty twenty two. I'm gonna be

728
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Speaker 3: super disappointed in Kentucky because this is home turf, this

729
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Speaker 3: is this is an election that Daniel Cameron has to win.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, we'll play you some audio this

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Speaker 3: Columbia professor. Do you know this guy, Jeffrey Sachs. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna play an audio clip for you talking about all

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Speaker 3: the failures of Fauci And I'll mention this too. We're

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Speaker 3: talking Kentucky and we're talking covid Ran Paul has got

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Speaker 3: a book coming out. I think is at next ally

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Speaker 3: probably know because I bet he's going to come on

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Speaker 3: the show. I think it's next Tuesday. I already read

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Speaker 3: the whole book. It got sent to me, made its

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Speaker 3: way to my house. It's a fabulous book about all

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Speaker 3: the COVID failures doctor Rand Paul has been going after

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Speaker 3: doctor Fauci. I'm telling you go back and read this book, Kentuckians.

742
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Speaker 3: And if you're not fired up to vote against Andy Basheer,

743
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Speaker 3: you are going to be fired up you go read

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Speaker 3: that book. He'll be in Oh, he's gonna be in

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Speaker 3: studio with me New York on Monday, so that'll be great.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see Senator Ram Paul, who's been

747
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Speaker 3: one of the few outspoken truth tellers for so much

748
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Speaker 3: of these COVID lives that have been spread. Who's there

749
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Speaker 3: for the families left behind when a service member first

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Speaker 3: responder dies or is catastrophically injured in the line of duty,

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Speaker 3: who's helping our nation's homeless veterans, and who's helping our

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Speaker 3: nation keep its valid And never forget nine to eleven Answers,

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Speaker 3: Clear the Tunnel, the Towers Foundation. I'm going to be

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Speaker 3: up in New York City, next week because I am

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Speaker 3: going to their charity golf event where they raise an

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Speaker 3: awful lot of money. I'm gonna play a lot of

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Speaker 3: really bad golf, but I'm gonna do it for a

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Speaker 3: good cause. The Foundations never forget programs engage people in

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Speaker 3: nine to eleven. Remember it's across America. Each year they

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Speaker 3: organize more than eighty runs, walks, climbs, dozens of golf outings,

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Speaker 3: and barbecues. Like I said, I'm gonna be with my

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Speaker 3: buddy Frank Siller helping on Tuesday in New York City.

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Speaker 3: Them raise money, and that nine eleven Institute helps to

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Speaker 3: educate kids in kindergarten through twelfth grade about our nation's

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Speaker 3: darkest day.

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Speaker 1: That is nine to eleven.

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Speaker 3: More than ninety five cents of every dollar you donate

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Speaker 3: the Tunnel the Towers goes to its programs. Charity keeps

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Speaker 3: That's t the number two t dot org.

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Speaker 1: Making sense in an insane world. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 3: Well done there, music returning who let the Dogs out

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Speaker 3: as the Biden family has officially had to let the

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Speaker 3: dogs out, as basically everything Joe Biden touches turns to

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Speaker 3: a disaster. Can't even have a family dog without a

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Speaker 3: bite and attacking everybody in the vicinity. But I wanted

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Speaker 3: to play this because I thought it was emblematic of

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Speaker 3: where we are as a country. The Prime Minister of

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Speaker 3: Great Britain, Reshi Sanak, came out a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 3: Last couple of days he said, this, buck, this is

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Speaker 3: how we have how far we've descended, I would say

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Speaker 3: in the not only in the United States, but also

784
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Speaker 3: in Great Britain and in much of the Western democracies.

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Speaker 3: Simply saying a man as a man and a woman

786
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Speaker 3: as a woman is controversial.

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Speaker 1: Listen to the Prime Minister of Great Britain.

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Speaker 4: And it also shouldn't be controversial for parents to know

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Speaker 4: what their children are being taught in school about relationships.

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Speaker 4: Patients should know when hospitals are talking about men or women.

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Speaker 4: And we shouldn't get bullied into believing that people can

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Speaker 4: be any sex they want to be. They can't. A

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Speaker 4: man is a man and a woman as a woman.

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Speaker 4: That's just common sense.

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden wouldn't say that. Think about now where we

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Speaker 3: are as a country that Joe Biden would never be

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Speaker 3: willing to say a man is a man, a woman

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Speaker 3: is a woman, and that's just common sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is how crazy things things have gotten out.

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Speaker 1: I mean that every time you start to dig into

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Speaker 1: this and you look through the headlines, you'll see the

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Speaker 1: language is ever shifting on all this stuff too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think a big part of it is not only

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Speaker 1: to create conformity, meaning that people will use certain words

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Speaker 1: in order to show their obedience to the transagenda, but

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Speaker 1: also to create a degree of just confusion around the issue,

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Speaker 1: so people don't even really understand what the heck is

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Speaker 1: going on, you know, when you start to refer to

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Speaker 1: things like people who menstruate and these different terminologies that

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Speaker 1: have become fashionable in recent years, which is insane, But

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Speaker 1: this is something that is happening. It is happening really

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Speaker 1: only in the West from what I can see. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it's really a Western phenomenon, and I do think

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Speaker 1: think it is. It's not that it's in retreat in

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Speaker 1: this country, but at least there's enough honesty around the

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Speaker 1: issue that we're allowed to speak about it now and

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Speaker 1: there's a greater understanding of what the real end goals are.

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Speaker 1: It's not just about being polite to people. One of

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Speaker 1: the funniest part of Matt Walsh is what is a

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Speaker 1: woman documentary? Which I think is free anybody can stream

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Speaker 1: it now that the Daily Wire did is his trip

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Speaker 1: to Africa and when he tries to have a conversation

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Speaker 1: with the African tribal leaders about the idea of the

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Speaker 1: transgender community in the United States and they are just

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Speaker 1: in complete disbelief that such a thing could exist. Again,

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Speaker 1: these are African tribal elders. I believe that he's having

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Speaker 1: the conversation with it does to your point point to

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Speaker 1: to what an extent the woke mind virus is primarily

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Speaker 1: a function of Western democracy. And I thought this was

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Speaker 1: good too.

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Speaker 3: Candice Owens, I don't know if she's pregnant with her

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Speaker 3: second or her thought child right now, but she was

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Speaker 3: speaking on a college campus and I saw this yesterday

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Speaker 3: and I couldn't stop laughing about it. She's taking questions

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Speaker 3: from the crowd. These are college kids primarily in the crowd,

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Speaker 3: and one of them wants to know about how she

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Speaker 3: would respond to people who feel very threatened by her

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Speaker 3: very speaking on that college campus.

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Speaker 4: Listen, what do you have to say to the trans

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Speaker 4: students on this campus who feel actively victimized by your

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Speaker 4: presence here?

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Speaker 1: Life's tough. Get a helmet, man, I'm too pregnant for this.

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Speaker 1: Next question.

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Speaker 3: If you didn't to hear exactly what she said, she said,

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Speaker 3: life's tough, get a helmet, I'm too pregnant for this,

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Speaker 3: and the crowd just goes completely crazy. I mean that clip,

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Speaker 3: which you can share see I shared it. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: we'll share it from Clay and Buck as well. It

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Speaker 3: was just so perfect because you have somebody in the

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Speaker 3: crowd standing up talking about I guess the phrase she used,

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Speaker 3: feel victimized by your presence. Originally, colleges and universities or

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Speaker 3: created to.

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Speaker 1: Explore all ideas.

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Speaker 3: And make sure that whoever emerged from them was more

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Speaker 3: educated than they would be without going to college. And

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Speaker 3: now we are coddling and cloistering and protecting these kids

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Speaker 3: on campus from ever having to have whatever their preconceived

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Speaker 3: notions are challenged in any way, which is the opposite

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Speaker 3: of what true education should be.

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Speaker 1: I always think it's funny too, because there's no better

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Speaker 1: advertisement for a conservative speech than the lunatics you show

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Speaker 1: up to protest it. Yes, and there's no more effective

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Speaker 1: post speech marketing material than some you know, some eighteen

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Speaker 1: year old who walks up there and says, you know,

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Speaker 1: my pronouns are and you know your words are like

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Speaker 1: literally harming me and stuff like that. This is the best.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're helping every conservative who goes on campus.

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Speaker 1: The more protesters and the more dumb questions, the more

869
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Speaker 1: worthwhile it is, and the longer it lives on the internet.

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Speaker 3: Do people on college campuses think other kids are losers?

871
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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 3: And I mean by which I mean if you were

873
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Speaker 3: the kind of parton when I was in college, and

874
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Speaker 3: I was on college campus ninety seven to two thousand

875
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Speaker 3: and one in Washington, d C. So it wasn't like

876
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Speaker 3: I was in some you know, like rural, you know,

877
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 3: backwoods location where there might have been some huge, you know,

878
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 3: red voting community, right. I was in Washington, d C.

879
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 3: Northwest d C. GW's a very politically progressive school. Now

880
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 3: they've done away with the word colonials the mascot because

881
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 3: they have convinced themselves that it's a somehow legacy of colonialism,

882
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 3: even though we were the colonists. And people are dumb,

883
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 3: and kids need to be told that they're dumb. Sometimes,

884
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Speaker 3: if you were triggered by a speaker who came on campus,

885
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Speaker 3: everyone overwhelmingly on the campus would have been like, yeah,

886
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: you're a total loser, Like, deal with it, the idea

887
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 3: that you would be upset. I get the sense now,

888
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 3: and I'm not on a college campus, so I don't know.

889
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Speaker 1: I get the sense now that instead of.

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Speaker 3: Being rightly called a loser for being unable to handle

891
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 3: somebody who had a different opinion than you, that now

892
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 3: the college community would coddle that person and say, oh,

893
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 3: I feel so sorry for you. What can I do

894
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,720
Speaker 3: to help you mentally cope with the fact that someone

895
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 3: on a college campus is speaking and has a different

896
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 3: opinion than you do. I don't know, because I'm not

897
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Speaker 3: on a college campus, and I frankly don't spend much

898
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Speaker 3: time on college campuses.

899
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: If we're hearing from a tiny subset of the overall

901
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 3: campus population, and most college kids would be like, if

902
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 3: you think you're a victim because somebody speaking on campus,

903
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: you're a loser, and that culture would still exist, like

904
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 3: get over yourself more. Whether this victimhood ideology has become

905
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 3: so prevalent that other kids feel bad for that kid.

906
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about, Like, what is the colleague?

907
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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's dominant that they would

908
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: feel bad for the kid. I think the colleges from

909
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: what I can see and I haven't I mean, god,

910
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: I don't even know the last time as I set

911
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: foot on a college campus, but from what you can

912
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: see and what you hear, I think that the schools

913
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: are as woke as they've ever seen. The administration certainly

914
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: would be.

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Speaker 3: I'm just talking about if you're a student, bind the

916
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 3: sophomore on the campus right now, you would feel bad

917
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 3: for that person who felt victimized, and you'd be like,

918
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 3: let me, let me help you mentally cope with this

919
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 3: challenge of someone having a different opinion than you. I

920
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 3: could speak to people I know who have been in

921
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 3: grad school in more recent years than that I got

922
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 3: to reach back some years, and they would they would admit,

923
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: they would say that these places have become the indoctrination

924
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 3: stretches far and wide, and.

925
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: They've become very, very whoke, and and the student bodies

926
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Speaker 1: go along with it. I feel like it used to be.

927
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Speaker 1: And you and I both love the movie PCU from

928
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: the nineties. Yeah, it used to be a very noisy,

929
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: aggressive and powerful political minority on campus, whether it's you know,

930
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: the the what do you call that?

931
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 3: Oh, back in the day, it would have been politically

932
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 3: correct universe, right. I remember this was is in my

933
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 3: book Buck. Somebody a few years ago went back and

934
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 3: looked I wrote a letter to the editor. This was

935
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 3: in a badass that I was nineteen ninety seven school newspaper.

936
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Speaker 3: It's still up there, you can go look it up.

937
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 3: But there was a huge controversy at GW in nineteen

938
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 3: ninety seven because an administrator used the phrase rule of

939
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 3: thumb and somehow.

940
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: How wide the stick is you hit people with or whatever.

941
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 3: Yes, so, but some student wrote a huge piece in

942
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: the newspaper like about how offensive it was that a

943
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 3: that an administrator would use the phrase rule of thumb,

944
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 3: and how there needed to be consequences based on the

945
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Speaker 3: language that he chose.

946
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Speaker 1: So that was that existed in the nineties. But I

947
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: feel like people were.

948
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, that is such a loser opinion, Like people

949
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 3: would just kind of roll their eyes at it. Even

950
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 3: at a school like GW, and now that that opinion

951
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 3: has become a scendant on some level, because that's how

952
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 3: you end up changing the name of the university from

953
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: Colonials when it's the George Washington Colonials, because George Washington

954
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 3: was the head of the colonial army. Right, this is

955
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 3: not a crazy difficult thing to understand. And we were

956
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 3: the colonists fighting back against the rule that was being

957
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 3: put upon us by the British. So we're actually opposing colonialism.

958
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Speaker 3: But because colonialism and colonists and the colonial army get dumb,

959
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: people confused. I don't even know what GW's mascot is now,

960
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 3: but they did away with it, and so it's that

961
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 3: ascendant stupidity. And I just don't know if it if

962
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 3: it actually is still just like a squeaky wheel, or

963
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 3: whether the student bodies buy and large overall would agree

964
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Speaker 3: with what that protest or.

965
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Speaker 1: In the canvass Owen speech. If I don't know if

966
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Speaker 1: we have anyone who works on a university campus right now,

967
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Speaker 1: or if we have any college age kids listening, we

968
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Speaker 1: certainly usually do, I would guess that in most look

969
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Speaker 1: it's different. In maybe different reagis of the country. If

970
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: you're talking about a well known like Northeastern school. If

971
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: you walk around the campus of Yale or Georgetown, I

972
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Speaker 1: think seventy percent of the kids in the campus probably

973
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Speaker 1: go along with at some level the left wing craziness.

974
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Speaker 1: Six seventy percent sounds like about the right number to me, Like,

975
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: this is stupid.

976
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Speaker 3: That's my stat Then, and then the question that is

977
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Speaker 3: out there buck is do these people, these kids who

978
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 3: are obviously smart, I mean, they're not unintelligent. If you

979
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Speaker 3: are getting into Georgetown or you're getting into Yale or

980
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 3: Harvard or whatever else, do these kids when they're like

981
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 3: thirty suddenly realize how stupid they were when they were

982
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Speaker 3: twenty or And this is my concern. Do we live

983
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: in such a post fact world that once you identify

984
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 3: yourself as a member of the left wing coalition, you

985
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 3: will defend those propositions no matter how insane, Because look,

986
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Speaker 3: I mean it's controversial now for Rishi Sanak in Great

987
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,720
Speaker 3: Britain to say a man's a man and a woman's

988
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 3: a woman. Our own president wouldn't even say that. I mean,

989
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 3: these are crazy times. And so that's my concern.

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