1 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:51,961 Speaker 1: School of Humans. Helen Got Murder Line actively investigates cold 2 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,361 Speaker 1: case murders in an effort to raise public awareness invite 3 00:00:55,401 --> 00:00:58,761 Speaker 1: witnesses to come forward and present evidence that could potentially 4 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,961 Speaker 1: be further investigated by law enforcement. While we value insights 5 00:01:03,001 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: from family and community members, their statements should not be 6 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,961 Speaker 1: considered evidence and point to the challenges of verifying facts 7 00:01:10,041 --> 00:01:14,041 Speaker 1: inherent in cold cases. We remind listeners that everyone has 8 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. 9 00:01:17,961 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: Nothing in the podcast is intended to state or imply 10 00:01:21,041 --> 00:01:23,601 Speaker 1: that anyone who has not been convicted of a crime 11 00:01:24,121 --> 00:01:27,121 Speaker 1: is guilty of any wrongdoing. Thanks for listening. 12 00:01:29,561 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: It was April twenty first, two thousand and six, and 13 00:01:32,281 --> 00:01:35,161 Speaker 2: twenty one year old college student Nina Ingram was coming 14 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:36,521 Speaker 2: home after a long day. 15 00:01:37,481 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: Nina had a very busy life. She was two years into. 16 00:01:40,721 --> 00:01:45,001 Speaker 2: Her business degree at Northwest Arkansas Community College in Bentonville, Arkansas. 17 00:01:45,241 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: She also worked at Walmart. 18 00:01:47,241 --> 00:01:50,001 Speaker 2: She was part of the Lost Prevention team, basically a 19 00:01:50,041 --> 00:01:54,161 Speaker 2: security officer. That night, Nina had worked her shift at 20 00:01:54,161 --> 00:01:58,241 Speaker 2: the Walmart supercenter on Martin Luther King Junior Boulevard in Fayetville. 21 00:01:58,921 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: She got off work at nine pm, picked up some 22 00:02:01,401 --> 00:02:03,881 Speaker 2: fast food, and then went to hang out with her 23 00:02:03,881 --> 00:02:07,681 Speaker 2: boyfriend Josh Stewart at his apartment. They hung out for 24 00:02:07,721 --> 00:02:11,121 Speaker 2: a little while, but Josh later told detectives that Nina 25 00:02:11,161 --> 00:02:15,081 Speaker 2: seemed quiet, like something may be on her mind. She 26 00:02:15,281 --> 00:02:18,441 Speaker 2: said that nothing was wrong, she was just tired. When 27 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: she left Josh's house between ten thirty and eleven pm, 28 00:02:22,001 --> 00:02:25,761 Speaker 2: she was driving Josh's pickup truck. Josh later told police 29 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,721 Speaker 2: they often swapped vehicles. Surveillance camera showed that Nina pulled 30 00:02:29,721 --> 00:02:33,601 Speaker 2: into her apartment complex a little after ten pm. She 31 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: got out of her vehicle and walked toward her unit, 32 00:02:36,441 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: Unit one on the ground floor of the Law Quad 33 00:02:39,001 --> 00:02:42,721 Speaker 2: apartment complex. The officer would later observe from what he 34 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,681 Speaker 2: saw on camera that as Nina left the vehicle and 35 00:02:45,721 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: walked toward her apartment that nothing seemed to be out 36 00:02:48,441 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: of the ordinary. But the next day, April twenty second, 37 00:02:52,161 --> 00:02:54,761 Speaker 2: no one heard from Nina. She didn't respond to her 38 00:02:54,801 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: boyfriend's text. Josh also tried to call her and left 39 00:02:57,801 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: several boys mails, but Nina never replied, and then she 40 00:03:01,961 --> 00:03:04,481 Speaker 2: didn't show up to give her brother Nelson a ride 41 00:03:04,521 --> 00:03:08,761 Speaker 2: to school, which Nina did often. When she failed to 42 00:03:08,801 --> 00:03:10,881 Speaker 2: show for her shift that day at Walmart that was 43 00:03:10,921 --> 00:03:13,841 Speaker 2: supposed to start at one pm, her family started to 44 00:03:13,841 --> 00:03:18,961 Speaker 2: get seriously worried. At around two pm, Nina's other brother, Noah, 45 00:03:19,001 --> 00:03:22,521 Speaker 2: and his roommate Chad Williams, drove over to Nina's apartment 46 00:03:22,561 --> 00:03:25,161 Speaker 2: to check on her. They knocked on the door, but 47 00:03:25,321 --> 00:03:30,081 Speaker 2: Nina didn't answer. Nina had two cats, family members later 48 00:03:30,121 --> 00:03:32,921 Speaker 2: told police she had a habit of opening the front 49 00:03:32,921 --> 00:03:35,121 Speaker 2: window just a crack so that the cats could get 50 00:03:35,161 --> 00:03:37,721 Speaker 2: some mayor. The window to the right of the front 51 00:03:37,721 --> 00:03:40,521 Speaker 2: door was open about two to three inches and unlocked, 52 00:03:41,001 --> 00:03:43,521 Speaker 2: so her brother pushed the window all the way open 53 00:03:43,801 --> 00:03:48,161 Speaker 2: and crawled into the kitchen. Chad waited outside why Noah 54 00:03:48,321 --> 00:03:51,401 Speaker 2: unlocked the door and the dead bolt, which were both locked. 55 00:03:52,081 --> 00:03:56,721 Speaker 2: Seconds later, he heard Noah scream. Chad went in through 56 00:03:56,761 --> 00:04:00,281 Speaker 2: the now unlocked front door and raced back into Nina's bedroom. 57 00:04:00,881 --> 00:04:03,321 Speaker 2: He and Noah saw her lying face up on the 58 00:04:03,321 --> 00:04:07,401 Speaker 2: bed with what Chad described as very visible red scratches 59 00:04:07,521 --> 00:04:11,761 Speaker 2: and bruises around her neck. Chad told police he knew 60 00:04:11,801 --> 00:04:18,321 Speaker 2: immediately that Nina was dead. This case involves a lot 61 00:04:18,361 --> 00:04:20,721 Speaker 2: of twists, and turns. But we're going to try to 62 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,161 Speaker 2: figure out was Nina Ingram murdered by a serial killer? 63 00:04:24,801 --> 00:04:28,361 Speaker 2: Was this a random attack, or was it someone she knew. 64 00:04:29,241 --> 00:04:32,361 Speaker 2: I'm Catherine Townsend. Over the past five years of making 65 00:04:32,401 --> 00:04:35,681 Speaker 2: my true crime podcast, Helen Gone, I've learned that there's 66 00:04:35,801 --> 00:04:39,041 Speaker 2: no such thing as a small town where murder never happens. 67 00:04:39,561 --> 00:04:42,321 Speaker 2: I've received hundreds of messages from people all around the 68 00:04:42,361 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: country asking for help with an unsolved murder that's affected them, 69 00:04:46,001 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: their families, and their communities. If you have a case 70 00:04:49,521 --> 00:04:51,481 Speaker 2: you'd like me and my team to look into, you 71 00:04:51,521 --> 00:04:53,721 Speaker 2: can reach out to us at our Helen Gone Murder 72 00:04:53,721 --> 00:04:57,041 Speaker 2: line at six seven eight seven four four six one 73 00:04:57,121 --> 00:05:00,921 Speaker 2: four or five. That's six seven eight seven four four six, 74 00:05:01,081 --> 00:05:03,721 Speaker 2: one four or five. Or you can send us a 75 00:05:03,721 --> 00:05:08,481 Speaker 2: message on Instagram at Helen gonepod. This is Helen Gone 76 00:05:08,801 --> 00:05:56,561 Speaker 2: Murder Line. Immediately after Nina's brother Noah and Chad found 77 00:05:56,641 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: Nina's body at around two nineteen pm, Chad called the police. 78 00:06:01,081 --> 00:06:03,921 Speaker 2: Detectives raised to the scene at the Law Quad apartments. 79 00:06:04,521 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: They started taping up the crime scene and canvassing residents, 80 00:06:07,961 --> 00:06:10,001 Speaker 2: but it was a pretty quiet apartment complex. 81 00:06:10,441 --> 00:06:11,241 Speaker 3: Police found out. 82 00:06:11,361 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: Only a few neighbors knew Nina and they hadn't seen 83 00:06:14,481 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: anything out of the ordinary. Nina was very close to 84 00:06:18,241 --> 00:06:21,721 Speaker 2: her family. Her mother, Judy, told a local news station 85 00:06:22,001 --> 00:06:25,241 Speaker 2: that her daughter did not drink or do drugs. She 86 00:06:25,361 --> 00:06:29,121 Speaker 2: called Nina quote an outstanding Christian girl with no enemies 87 00:06:29,361 --> 00:06:34,561 Speaker 2: end quote. Nina Ingram was born and raised in Lillian, Texas. 88 00:06:35,121 --> 00:06:37,361 Speaker 2: Right before she started her freshman year of high school, 89 00:06:37,761 --> 00:06:40,241 Speaker 2: she moved to Fayettville, Arkansas, with her mom and two 90 00:06:40,241 --> 00:06:43,681 Speaker 2: of her brothers. Even though her father and other brothers 91 00:06:43,721 --> 00:06:47,801 Speaker 2: stayed behind in Texas, she stayed in close contact with them. 92 00:06:48,121 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: Detectives talked to police at the walmart where Nina worked. 93 00:06:51,481 --> 00:06:54,601 Speaker 2: They determined she was well liked by most of the staff. 94 00:06:55,241 --> 00:06:58,841 Speaker 2: A friend of hers named Freddie Hollingsworth told detectives he 95 00:06:58,921 --> 00:07:01,281 Speaker 2: wondered if Nina could have been targeted by someone she 96 00:07:01,361 --> 00:07:06,121 Speaker 2: busted for shoplifting, but detectives found that unlikely. Of course, 97 00:07:06,201 --> 00:07:09,441 Speaker 2: they wanted to talk to Nina's boyfriend, Josh. Pretty Much 98 00:07:09,521 --> 00:07:12,921 Speaker 2: everyone said Nina and Josh were very happy together and 99 00:07:12,961 --> 00:07:16,041 Speaker 2: had a great relationship. A friend of Nina said they'd 100 00:07:16,041 --> 00:07:19,161 Speaker 2: considered moving in together, and Nina had even talked to 101 00:07:19,201 --> 00:07:23,841 Speaker 2: one coworker about possibly marrying Josh, though things weren't perfect. 102 00:07:24,321 --> 00:07:28,841 Speaker 2: Another coworker told police Josh had recently gone through Nina's 103 00:07:28,841 --> 00:07:31,921 Speaker 2: phone to see who she had been talking to. When 104 00:07:31,961 --> 00:07:35,961 Speaker 2: detectives interviewed Josh, they asked about the night of Nina's death. 105 00:07:36,841 --> 00:07:39,761 Speaker 2: Josh said that on April twenty first, Nina called him 106 00:07:39,801 --> 00:07:42,241 Speaker 2: from work. She told him she would come by his 107 00:07:42,321 --> 00:07:44,321 Speaker 2: place afterwards and some food. 108 00:07:44,961 --> 00:07:45,361 Speaker 3: He said. 109 00:07:45,401 --> 00:07:48,601 Speaker 2: She arrived shortly after her shift at Walmart with Firehouse 110 00:07:48,641 --> 00:07:51,841 Speaker 2: subs and a Taco Bell bag. Josh said Nina ate 111 00:07:51,881 --> 00:07:54,601 Speaker 2: the Taco Bell food and he ate the Firehouse sub food. 112 00:07:55,001 --> 00:07:56,601 Speaker 3: He said they hung out for a little while. 113 00:07:57,041 --> 00:07:59,761 Speaker 2: He estimated she left his place between ten thirty and 114 00:07:59,801 --> 00:08:05,161 Speaker 2: eleven PM. Throughout the investigation, Josh was completely cooperative. He 115 00:08:05,281 --> 00:08:09,521 Speaker 2: also voluntarily gave his DNA to police. He let investigators 116 00:08:09,561 --> 00:08:12,001 Speaker 2: know he was available to talk with them at any time. 117 00:08:12,921 --> 00:08:19,521 Speaker 2: Law enforcement quickly cleared him. One big question that detectives 118 00:08:19,561 --> 00:08:23,441 Speaker 2: had was how did the killer get in. Detectives began 119 00:08:23,521 --> 00:08:26,681 Speaker 2: formulating a theory that Nina's attacker had lay in wait 120 00:08:26,721 --> 00:08:28,921 Speaker 2: for her near her door when she came home that night. 121 00:08:29,361 --> 00:08:31,921 Speaker 2: And then rushed her as she went into her apartment. 122 00:08:32,521 --> 00:08:35,841 Speaker 2: When Nina's brother Noah arrived, the door was locked. He 123 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,521 Speaker 2: specifically told detectives he had to unlock two locks, both 124 00:08:39,560 --> 00:08:42,001 Speaker 2: the regular door lock and the dead bolt to let 125 00:08:42,121 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: chat in. No signs of struggle Inside Nina's apartment, there 126 00:08:46,841 --> 00:08:50,081 Speaker 2: seemed to be nothing out of place, but to be fair, 127 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,721 Speaker 2: the living room was barely sparse, with just a love seat, barstool, bookshelf, 128 00:08:54,761 --> 00:08:57,681 Speaker 2: and a few other items, so it is possible the 129 00:08:57,761 --> 00:09:00,521 Speaker 2: killer could have forced Nina inside that apartment and back 130 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:05,761 Speaker 2: to her bedroom without necessarily knocking things over. Nina had 131 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: been brutally strangled, but there were no signs of sexual 132 00:09:09,081 --> 00:09:12,561 Speaker 2: assault and nothing had been taken from her apartment, at 133 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:17,201 Speaker 2: least nothing obvious. Nina's purse was found near her body. 134 00:09:17,601 --> 00:09:20,761 Speaker 2: There was five dollars inside that purse, so the motive 135 00:09:20,841 --> 00:09:24,641 Speaker 2: did not appear to be robbery. There was a cigarette 136 00:09:24,641 --> 00:09:28,081 Speaker 2: butt found in a flower pot outside. Detective said it 137 00:09:28,121 --> 00:09:31,641 Speaker 2: appeared to have been there for some time. Nina's keys 138 00:09:31,681 --> 00:09:34,841 Speaker 2: with her key ring were also found inside the apartment, 139 00:09:35,601 --> 00:09:38,401 Speaker 2: so we're wondering how did the killer get in, but 140 00:09:38,521 --> 00:09:40,921 Speaker 2: also how did the killer get back? 141 00:09:40,961 --> 00:09:41,801 Speaker 3: Out. 142 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,361 Speaker 2: The cracked window at Nina's apartment had a screen on it. 143 00:09:46,041 --> 00:09:48,401 Speaker 2: Noah had removed it to crawl through the window because 144 00:09:48,441 --> 00:09:51,361 Speaker 2: the door was locked. After he was done, he left 145 00:09:51,361 --> 00:09:55,321 Speaker 2: the screen lying outside. Police noted the back bathroom window 146 00:09:55,401 --> 00:09:58,721 Speaker 2: was also unlocked, but detectives said it was difficult to 147 00:09:58,761 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: open and they didn't see any of the dust there undisturbed, 148 00:10:03,001 --> 00:10:06,601 Speaker 2: so the killer likely came in and out through either 149 00:10:06,641 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: the front door or front window. Unfortunately, police found no fingerprints. 150 00:10:12,401 --> 00:10:16,161 Speaker 2: They did find something in a dumpster outside, a single glove. 151 00:10:16,681 --> 00:10:18,601 Speaker 2: They tested a hair on that glove and found that 152 00:10:18,641 --> 00:10:21,481 Speaker 2: it didn't match Nina's DNA and they were unable to 153 00:10:21,521 --> 00:10:25,401 Speaker 2: find a match for it. Detectives noticed a footprint that 154 00:10:25,481 --> 00:10:27,401 Speaker 2: seemed to be out of place against the back of 155 00:10:27,441 --> 00:10:31,081 Speaker 2: the front door. They saw a scuff mark about thirty 156 00:10:31,121 --> 00:10:33,841 Speaker 2: one inches from the bottom of that door, but they 157 00:10:33,841 --> 00:10:36,681 Speaker 2: were unable to find more footprints from the interior in 158 00:10:36,721 --> 00:10:39,881 Speaker 2: the front kitchen. In the report, it stated that was 159 00:10:39,921 --> 00:10:42,801 Speaker 2: possibly because there were layers of dust and cat hair 160 00:10:42,961 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: on the kitchen floor, which made it difficult to get 161 00:10:45,201 --> 00:10:49,681 Speaker 2: any imprints. Did Nina's assailant kick the door shut behind him, 162 00:10:50,321 --> 00:10:52,801 Speaker 2: or could that have been a random print from some 163 00:10:52,921 --> 00:10:58,201 Speaker 2: time before this. Detectives had no idea that surveillance footage 164 00:10:58,201 --> 00:11:02,281 Speaker 2: in Nina's apartment complex showed her arriving home in Josh's 165 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:07,321 Speaker 2: white pickup truck just before ten fifteen pm. However, according 166 00:11:07,321 --> 00:11:10,361 Speaker 2: to the police report, the quality of the footage was 167 00:11:10,401 --> 00:11:14,281 Speaker 2: so poor detectives couldn't really identify any other vehicles in 168 00:11:14,321 --> 00:11:17,801 Speaker 2: the parking lot during that crucial time period. The detectives 169 00:11:17,841 --> 00:11:20,481 Speaker 2: did ask the FBI to enhance a couple of images, 170 00:11:20,881 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: but there's no indication that that led to anything. When 171 00:11:24,881 --> 00:11:28,041 Speaker 2: Nina got out of her car, it appeared on that 172 00:11:28,041 --> 00:11:32,081 Speaker 2: surveillance tape that she was alone, but the surveillance footage 173 00:11:32,121 --> 00:11:37,161 Speaker 2: did not reach her apartment door. One thing that Josh 174 00:11:37,201 --> 00:11:40,241 Speaker 2: said about his and Nina's last night together was that 175 00:11:40,321 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: she seemed to be in a little bit of a 176 00:11:42,121 --> 00:11:44,961 Speaker 2: quiet mood that night, and several other people she saw 177 00:11:44,961 --> 00:11:48,321 Speaker 2: that day said she was acting like something might be wrong. 178 00:11:49,121 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: Josh also told detectives before Nina left his house that night, 179 00:11:53,201 --> 00:11:56,361 Speaker 2: she used his computer to communicate with someone. He did 180 00:11:56,401 --> 00:11:59,641 Speaker 2: not know who that person was, so police got search 181 00:11:59,641 --> 00:12:03,721 Speaker 2: warrants for both Josh and Nina's computers, a Compact Presario 182 00:12:03,961 --> 00:12:05,241 Speaker 2: twenty one hundred laptop. 183 00:12:05,881 --> 00:12:07,361 Speaker 3: They also took Nina's cell. 184 00:12:07,201 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: Phone and looked through it, but apparently they found nothing 185 00:12:10,081 --> 00:12:14,281 Speaker 2: of evidentiary value in any of those devices. There was 186 00:12:14,561 --> 00:12:17,361 Speaker 2: one odd thing, which we'll come back to later. There 187 00:12:17,401 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: was a message from someone named Joey. It read quote, 188 00:12:21,681 --> 00:12:25,921 Speaker 2: I see be careful, be one hundred percent sea and 189 00:12:25,961 --> 00:12:30,601 Speaker 2: they wrote sea like cya end quote. So who was 190 00:12:30,681 --> 00:12:34,641 Speaker 2: Nina communicating with? Could Nina have been talking to her killer? 191 00:12:45,921 --> 00:12:49,561 Speaker 2: A question detectives were trying to answer was was Nina's 192 00:12:49,601 --> 00:12:53,681 Speaker 2: killer a stranger or someone she knew. There were a 193 00:12:53,761 --> 00:12:57,281 Speaker 2: lot of men in Nina's orbit, male friends, co workers, 194 00:12:57,321 --> 00:12:59,881 Speaker 2: and people who passed through the store every day, her 195 00:12:59,921 --> 00:13:03,681 Speaker 2: friends told detectives. Because Nina was an attractive woman and 196 00:13:03,761 --> 00:13:06,681 Speaker 2: she was a nice person, she got hit on a lot. 197 00:13:07,241 --> 00:13:10,761 Speaker 2: Police talked to a census worker named Jianne Marillo. She 198 00:13:11,041 --> 00:13:13,801 Speaker 2: had talked to Nina at her door on April nineteenth. 199 00:13:14,481 --> 00:13:17,521 Speaker 2: Janne said before she talked to her, she had seen 200 00:13:17,561 --> 00:13:20,161 Speaker 2: a tall, white, slender man with dark hair go into 201 00:13:20,201 --> 00:13:23,161 Speaker 2: the apartment with Nina. She said the guy stayed in 202 00:13:23,161 --> 00:13:26,241 Speaker 2: the back bedroom while she and Nina spoke. The census 203 00:13:26,321 --> 00:13:28,881 Speaker 2: worker also said that every day that she was at 204 00:13:28,881 --> 00:13:32,801 Speaker 2: that apartment complex, Nina's window was cracked open, and every 205 00:13:32,841 --> 00:13:36,201 Speaker 2: time there was a cat sitting at the window. It's 206 00:13:36,321 --> 00:13:40,001 Speaker 2: not clear whether or not police ever identified who this 207 00:13:40,081 --> 00:13:42,081 Speaker 2: man was at Nina's apartment complex. 208 00:13:42,641 --> 00:13:43,401 Speaker 3: We wondered if it. 209 00:13:43,401 --> 00:13:45,641 Speaker 2: Could have been her boyfriend, Josh, but police talked to 210 00:13:45,761 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: Josh and he said that he had not been to 211 00:13:47,761 --> 00:13:50,961 Speaker 2: Nina's apartment complex in months. Normally Nina would stay at 212 00:13:50,961 --> 00:13:54,361 Speaker 2: his place. It could have been Nina's brother, but nothing 213 00:13:54,401 --> 00:13:56,761 Speaker 2: that we saw in the case file addresses this issue, 214 00:13:56,801 --> 00:14:02,521 Speaker 2: so we don't know. Everyone in Nina's life was baffled 215 00:14:02,641 --> 00:14:05,801 Speaker 2: about who could want to hurt her. Everyone seemed to 216 00:14:05,841 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: love Nina. She seemed to have a truly kind heart, 217 00:14:08,721 --> 00:14:11,081 Speaker 2: and she always went out of her way to help people. 218 00:14:11,961 --> 00:14:15,121 Speaker 2: At the same time, some people who knew Nina described 219 00:14:15,161 --> 00:14:18,841 Speaker 2: her as a loner. Police talked to her professors at school. 220 00:14:19,081 --> 00:14:22,241 Speaker 2: They said that she was friendly, she would interact in class, 221 00:14:22,601 --> 00:14:24,921 Speaker 2: but they said she didn't seem to have one particular 222 00:14:25,001 --> 00:14:28,321 Speaker 2: friend or group of friends, that she mostly stayed to herself. 223 00:14:29,081 --> 00:14:31,681 Speaker 2: At work, it was the same story. She was friendly 224 00:14:31,721 --> 00:14:37,001 Speaker 2: and professional, but also no nonsense. We talked to Nina's cousin, Danielle, 225 00:14:37,561 --> 00:14:41,161 Speaker 2: and she said Nina was a little bit misunderstood that way. 226 00:14:41,201 --> 00:14:43,801 Speaker 2: It wasn't that she was standoffish, she was just a 227 00:14:43,841 --> 00:14:47,521 Speaker 2: little bit shy. Danielle said that Nina genuinely cared about 228 00:14:47,521 --> 00:14:49,721 Speaker 2: people and she was a very good listener. 229 00:14:50,641 --> 00:14:53,601 Speaker 4: The summer that she was fifteen, she came down and 230 00:14:53,641 --> 00:14:56,001 Speaker 4: lived with us for the summer in Douglas. Came down 231 00:14:56,041 --> 00:14:59,721 Speaker 4: from Arkansas and at the time, my mother had a 232 00:14:59,761 --> 00:15:02,681 Speaker 4: pizza restaurant, and Nina and I spent that whole summer 233 00:15:02,721 --> 00:15:04,601 Speaker 4: working for my mom making pizzas, and we had so 234 00:15:04,681 --> 00:15:08,041 Speaker 4: much fun. That was probably the best summers ever. And 235 00:15:08,121 --> 00:15:10,801 Speaker 4: Nina was always a hard worker, though she never never 236 00:15:10,801 --> 00:15:12,041 Speaker 4: shied away from doing a job. 237 00:15:12,361 --> 00:15:13,081 Speaker 1: I wouldn't call her. 238 00:15:13,001 --> 00:15:15,281 Speaker 4: An introvert her. She was a very social person, but 239 00:15:15,361 --> 00:15:17,161 Speaker 4: she didn't need to be the spotlight. She was a 240 00:15:17,201 --> 00:15:20,641 Speaker 4: really good listener. She didn't feel the need to have 241 00:15:20,681 --> 00:15:23,201 Speaker 4: a lot of attention on her. But because of that, 242 00:15:23,641 --> 00:15:25,921 Speaker 4: everyone really trusted her and wanting to be friends with her, 243 00:15:25,921 --> 00:15:27,601 Speaker 4: because she just had a way of putting people at ease. 244 00:15:28,361 --> 00:15:30,441 Speaker 4: She just made people feel comfortable in their own skin. 245 00:15:31,401 --> 00:15:34,521 Speaker 4: She didn't have to impress her or you know, put 246 00:15:34,521 --> 00:15:36,761 Speaker 4: on a mask with her. She was just like, whoever 247 00:15:36,801 --> 00:15:37,561 Speaker 4: you are, I love you. 248 00:15:41,681 --> 00:15:45,441 Speaker 2: Reading between the lines of these police reports, it seemed 249 00:15:45,521 --> 00:15:47,601 Speaker 2: like a lot of the men who knew Nina were 250 00:15:47,601 --> 00:15:50,001 Speaker 2: attracted to her and wanted to ask her out, but 251 00:15:50,081 --> 00:15:53,001 Speaker 2: either she was oblivious to it or she didn't want 252 00:15:53,041 --> 00:15:56,481 Speaker 2: to encourage it. A co worker gave an example. They 253 00:15:56,521 --> 00:15:58,241 Speaker 2: said one day, Nina had to go to court for 254 00:15:58,281 --> 00:16:01,521 Speaker 2: some reason. Afterwards, she went straight to work her shift. 255 00:16:02,121 --> 00:16:04,601 Speaker 2: They said that on that day, Nina was dressed up 256 00:16:04,601 --> 00:16:07,841 Speaker 2: more formally. The co worker told investigators he made some 257 00:16:07,961 --> 00:16:10,281 Speaker 2: kind of comment about her looking good that day and 258 00:16:10,401 --> 00:16:13,641 Speaker 2: asking why she didn't dress like that every day. Nina 259 00:16:13,721 --> 00:16:16,881 Speaker 2: said something about not wanting to be hassled. She didn't 260 00:16:16,881 --> 00:16:19,401 Speaker 2: want people to ask her out. She just wanted to 261 00:16:19,401 --> 00:16:22,081 Speaker 2: do her job. The coworker, by the way, was not 262 00:16:22,161 --> 00:16:23,641 Speaker 2: the one who made the comments to Nina. 263 00:16:23,681 --> 00:16:25,401 Speaker 3: He was just telling police what happened. 264 00:16:26,561 --> 00:16:29,321 Speaker 2: Police spoke with the assistant manager at the walmart Nina 265 00:16:29,401 --> 00:16:34,481 Speaker 2: worked at in Rogers, Bobby Blackbird. She talked about an employee, 266 00:16:34,801 --> 00:16:39,241 Speaker 2: Casey Ake. Bobby said Casey played online poker with Nina 267 00:16:39,401 --> 00:16:42,161 Speaker 2: and that quote, everyone knew he was crazy about her. 268 00:16:42,401 --> 00:16:43,721 Speaker 3: End quote. 269 00:16:43,721 --> 00:16:46,121 Speaker 2: Bobby said she believed Casey was in love with Nina. 270 00:16:47,001 --> 00:16:50,441 Speaker 2: Casey had talked about asking Nina out, but then seemed 271 00:16:50,441 --> 00:16:52,601 Speaker 2: to back off once Nina started dating. 272 00:16:52,361 --> 00:16:53,841 Speaker 3: Her boyfriend Josh. 273 00:16:54,281 --> 00:16:58,441 Speaker 2: After Nina died, detectives searched Casey's home and found nothing. 274 00:16:59,201 --> 00:17:01,521 Speaker 2: But I did see when they talked about the search 275 00:17:01,521 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 2: in their reports, they specifically mentioned taking a look at 276 00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:07,241 Speaker 2: his shoes and then putting them back in the closet. 277 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 2: They didn't find anything on that search, but they seemed 278 00:17:10,481 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: to be clearly trying to figure out who left that 279 00:17:13,201 --> 00:17:18,921 Speaker 2: footprint scuffed on Nina's door. According to Nina's autopsy, her 280 00:17:19,001 --> 00:17:22,521 Speaker 2: cause of death was ligature strangulation. The manner of death 281 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,961 Speaker 2: was homicide. The medical examiner, doctor Charles Kocis, said that 282 00:17:27,041 --> 00:17:30,841 Speaker 2: Nina was strangled with some type of ligature, something between 283 00:17:30,921 --> 00:17:34,561 Speaker 2: one sixteenth and one eighth of an inch wide. The 284 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:39,161 Speaker 2: autopsy provided a few more clues. Whatever happened inside that apartment, 285 00:17:39,801 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: it seemed to have been a violent struggle. Nina was 286 00:17:43,521 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 2: five feet nine inches tall and weigh one hundred and 287 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 2: fifty one pounds, so depending on how large her killer was, 288 00:17:50,161 --> 00:17:53,201 Speaker 2: this might not have been an easy fight. By the 289 00:17:53,241 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: time her body was found, rigor mortis had left the 290 00:17:56,121 --> 00:18:00,401 Speaker 2: body and there was marked lividity. Police believed her killer 291 00:18:00,481 --> 00:18:02,601 Speaker 2: murdered her on the bed and then left her there, 292 00:18:03,041 --> 00:18:05,721 Speaker 2: and the time of death was consistent from when Nina 293 00:18:05,761 --> 00:18:08,401 Speaker 2: got home on the night of the twenty first. Police 294 00:18:08,401 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: believed her body had not been moved since then. The 295 00:18:12,241 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 2: autopsy noted Nina had several scratches on the front of 296 00:18:15,161 --> 00:18:19,121 Speaker 2: her neck, and scratches around the mouth and chin, mostly 297 00:18:19,201 --> 00:18:22,401 Speaker 2: on the left side of her face, and distinct ligature 298 00:18:22,441 --> 00:18:26,281 Speaker 2: grooves on both sides of her neck. One rumor that 299 00:18:26,361 --> 00:18:29,561 Speaker 2: started going around after the murder was that Nina's throat 300 00:18:29,601 --> 00:18:33,201 Speaker 2: had been slit. This was not true, but it was 301 00:18:33,281 --> 00:18:37,241 Speaker 2: one that was repeated by people for years. I'm guessing 302 00:18:37,281 --> 00:18:40,001 Speaker 2: that rumor might have started because of those marks that 303 00:18:40,041 --> 00:18:43,681 Speaker 2: were found on Nina's neck at the crime scene. Chat 304 00:18:43,921 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: said that they looked like cuts. According to the autopsy report, 305 00:18:48,521 --> 00:18:51,841 Speaker 2: Nina had another heavy abrasion just below her left ear, 306 00:18:52,521 --> 00:18:54,961 Speaker 2: and there were two more abrasions on her chest near 307 00:18:55,001 --> 00:19:00,561 Speaker 2: the clavicle. Those two big bruises on her clavicle were unexplained. 308 00:19:01,241 --> 00:19:03,961 Speaker 2: This is just a guess on my part. I think 309 00:19:04,001 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: it is possible that Nina's killer could have sat on 310 00:19:07,001 --> 00:19:10,561 Speaker 2: her or pressed their knees down onto her chest. The 311 00:19:10,601 --> 00:19:15,281 Speaker 2: medical examiner noted she had petikia or hemorrhaging in her eyes, face, 312 00:19:15,601 --> 00:19:19,161 Speaker 2: left leg, and left arm that were consistent with strangulation 313 00:19:19,361 --> 00:19:24,521 Speaker 2: or asphyxia. Particial hemorrhaging was also present on the interior throat, muscles, 314 00:19:24,561 --> 00:19:29,401 Speaker 2: and larynx. In addition, her hyoid bone was damaged. There 315 00:19:29,401 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: were no defensive wounds on Nina's hands and no trauma 316 00:19:33,481 --> 00:19:35,961 Speaker 2: to any part of the body except the neck, chest, 317 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 2: and face. The contents of her stomach were consistent with 318 00:19:40,201 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: her last meal from Taco Bell. More and more in 319 00:19:43,721 --> 00:19:47,041 Speaker 2: investigators were thinking Nina came home and right when she 320 00:19:47,121 --> 00:19:49,801 Speaker 2: was at her door, or right after she came inside, 321 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 2: the killer pounced. Her cell phone was found still in 322 00:19:53,401 --> 00:19:56,121 Speaker 2: her pocket, so she never had a chance to even 323 00:19:56,201 --> 00:19:59,121 Speaker 2: try to call for help. The attack must have come 324 00:19:59,161 --> 00:20:02,561 Speaker 2: as a complete shock, and detective still had. 325 00:20:02,401 --> 00:20:03,241 Speaker 3: No murder weapon. 326 00:20:03,961 --> 00:20:06,761 Speaker 2: They found a belt in the kitchen trash can, but 327 00:20:06,961 --> 00:20:09,361 Speaker 2: there was no DNA found on it except for Nina's. 328 00:20:09,801 --> 00:20:12,481 Speaker 2: Presumably it was also ruled out as the murder weapon 329 00:20:12,521 --> 00:20:15,481 Speaker 2: because it was too wide. Remember the murder weapon was 330 00:20:15,521 --> 00:20:19,281 Speaker 2: one sixteenth to one eighth of an inch wide. They 331 00:20:19,321 --> 00:20:21,921 Speaker 2: also tested other things in the house, including the mini 332 00:20:21,961 --> 00:20:26,481 Speaker 2: blind cords, but again they found no foreign DNA. All 333 00:20:26,561 --> 00:20:28,881 Speaker 2: of the fingerprints they found in the apartment were Nina's 334 00:20:29,041 --> 00:20:32,121 Speaker 2: except for one partial palm print, and it was not 335 00:20:32,201 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: a match to anyone in the DNA database. So, along 336 00:20:35,641 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 2: with no murder weapon, police still didn't have a motive. 337 00:20:40,401 --> 00:20:43,321 Speaker 2: It did not appear that Nina had been sexually assaulted. 338 00:20:43,881 --> 00:20:47,881 Speaker 2: She was found fully clothed, wearing a blue Royals T shirt, jeans, 339 00:20:47,881 --> 00:20:50,321 Speaker 2: and a jogging suit jacket. She had her broad and 340 00:20:50,361 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: underwear on. They appeared to have been undisturbed. There was 341 00:20:54,281 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 2: semen found in Nina's vagina, but the fluids were found 342 00:20:57,681 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 2: to have been a mixture of her DNA and Josh's DNA. 343 00:21:01,041 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: He told the investigators they had consensual sex the night 344 00:21:04,121 --> 00:21:07,281 Speaker 2: before when she stayed over at his place. Again, there 345 00:21:07,281 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: were no signs of sexual assault or of trauma to 346 00:21:09,881 --> 00:21:12,681 Speaker 2: her vaginal area. There was no blood or semen found 347 00:21:12,721 --> 00:21:17,241 Speaker 2: rectley or orally. Investigators also found no blood or semen 348 00:21:17,281 --> 00:21:20,441 Speaker 2: on her t shirt, jean jacket, shoes, bra or underwear. 349 00:21:21,361 --> 00:21:24,481 Speaker 2: They tested other items, including the bedding, the bed and 350 00:21:24,481 --> 00:21:27,441 Speaker 2: her miniblinds for blooder semen, but found no trace on 351 00:21:27,481 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: any of them either. Detectives did find some hairs inside 352 00:21:31,121 --> 00:21:34,401 Speaker 2: the apartment, but forensic testing showed they were all either 353 00:21:34,481 --> 00:21:39,521 Speaker 2: Nina's hairs or her cat's hairs. Detectives were canvassing the 354 00:21:39,521 --> 00:21:44,401 Speaker 2: apartment complex because maybe her killer didn't rush her inside 355 00:21:44,441 --> 00:21:47,001 Speaker 2: the apartment. Maybe it was someone she knew and they 356 00:21:47,121 --> 00:21:50,241 Speaker 2: knocked on the door and she let them in. Did 357 00:21:50,321 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: her killer lock the door behind themselves, because if so, 358 00:21:54,201 --> 00:21:57,801 Speaker 2: that would presumably mean they would need a key. Police 359 00:21:57,881 --> 00:22:01,521 Speaker 2: obviously considered this possibility. They were trying to figure out 360 00:22:01,641 --> 00:22:05,761 Speaker 2: who had keys to Nina Ingram's apartment. On April twenty third, 361 00:22:05,801 --> 00:22:08,481 Speaker 2: the day after Nina's body was found, police talked to 362 00:22:08,481 --> 00:22:12,281 Speaker 2: the management company for the apartment complex, Mansfield Properties. They 363 00:22:12,361 --> 00:22:15,561 Speaker 2: found out that the maintenance worker for that complex was 364 00:22:15,601 --> 00:22:18,121 Speaker 2: a thirty one year old man named Billy Gray. They 365 00:22:18,161 --> 00:22:20,481 Speaker 2: went to his house and he voluntarily agreed to come 366 00:22:20,481 --> 00:22:23,521 Speaker 2: to the Fville Police Department for an interview. They asked 367 00:22:23,521 --> 00:22:27,521 Speaker 2: Billy about service request for Nina's apartment apartment number one. 368 00:22:27,681 --> 00:22:30,481 Speaker 2: Billy Gray said he had been to that apartment complex 369 00:22:30,521 --> 00:22:33,361 Speaker 2: in recent weeks to make repairs to apartments number five 370 00:22:33,441 --> 00:22:36,321 Speaker 2: and number forty two. Apartment five, by the way, was 371 00:22:36,401 --> 00:22:39,561 Speaker 2: Nina's upstairs neighbor, but he said he did not remember 372 00:22:39,561 --> 00:22:43,121 Speaker 2: making any repairs in apartment number one. He said all 373 00:22:43,161 --> 00:22:46,521 Speaker 2: repairs were documented by the property management company and that 374 00:22:46,681 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 2: before repairs were made they had to fill out work orders. 375 00:22:50,401 --> 00:22:52,761 Speaker 2: They also kept a record of problems that were reported 376 00:22:52,761 --> 00:22:57,201 Speaker 2: by tenants. Billy said on April fourteenth, he checked out 377 00:22:57,241 --> 00:22:59,641 Speaker 2: the law Quad Master keys to make some repairs in 378 00:22:59,681 --> 00:23:03,241 Speaker 2: the complex. Billy Gray showed detectives the place where the 379 00:23:03,281 --> 00:23:06,321 Speaker 2: master keys were kept at the Garden Park apartment shop. 380 00:23:06,881 --> 00:23:11,721 Speaker 2: He also voluntarily gave DNA samples. Police searched Billy's residence 381 00:23:11,761 --> 00:23:15,161 Speaker 2: after he gave his consent. They found nothing of evidentiary value, 382 00:23:15,241 --> 00:23:18,721 Speaker 2: so he was also cleared. When detectives talked to the 383 00:23:18,761 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 2: manager of Mansfield Properties, he also said something else that 384 00:23:22,161 --> 00:23:25,401 Speaker 2: I found interesting. He said that Nina's unit, apartment number 385 00:23:25,441 --> 00:23:28,401 Speaker 2: one had been rented to a construction company for two 386 00:23:28,441 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 2: months and then it sat vacant for a month before 387 00:23:31,761 --> 00:23:34,601 Speaker 2: Nina moved in. Police got the name of the guy 388 00:23:34,601 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: who rented the apartment for the company. His name was 389 00:23:36,961 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 2: Henry Jordan Junior. They apparently did more investigating into the 390 00:23:41,121 --> 00:23:44,161 Speaker 2: company and its records, but they didn't see to find 391 00:23:44,161 --> 00:23:47,801 Speaker 2: any leads there. They found one glove in that dumpster 392 00:23:47,881 --> 00:23:50,961 Speaker 2: outside Nina's apartment, but the DNA on the glove was 393 00:23:51,001 --> 00:23:57,921 Speaker 2: never identified, another dead end. The investigation seemed to stall, 394 00:23:58,041 --> 00:24:02,401 Speaker 2: but in twenty twelve, six years after Nina Ingram was murdered, 395 00:24:02,921 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 2: someone was arrested. Nina's family laid her arrest in a 396 00:24:18,721 --> 00:24:23,241 Speaker 2: pastel high neck dress, probably to camouflage the ligature marks 397 00:24:23,281 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 2: on her neck. Over the years, her mother, Judy Ingram, 398 00:24:27,481 --> 00:24:30,441 Speaker 2: spoke out about the devastating loss of her daughter. She 399 00:24:30,681 --> 00:24:33,961 Speaker 2: encouraged people to keep Nina's memory alive. She wrote a 400 00:24:34,001 --> 00:24:36,721 Speaker 2: book about Nina's life and death called The Brightest Star. 401 00:24:37,401 --> 00:24:39,681 Speaker 2: In two thousand and nine, Nina's mom told a local 402 00:24:39,721 --> 00:24:42,681 Speaker 2: news station quote, I know it's been three years, but 403 00:24:42,761 --> 00:24:45,161 Speaker 2: I'm not giving up in any way, shape or form. 404 00:24:45,721 --> 00:24:48,721 Speaker 2: I know someone out there knows something, and that person 405 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 2: needs to come forward. 406 00:24:50,361 --> 00:24:55,001 Speaker 3: Nina deserves it. End quote. Police didn't say much. Over 407 00:24:55,001 --> 00:24:55,441 Speaker 3: the years. 408 00:24:55,881 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: There would be updates on anniversaries of the murder, but 409 00:24:58,681 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 2: detectives would simply say, as they often do, this case 410 00:25:02,441 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: was an open and active investigation. The detective working the 411 00:25:05,881 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: case at the time said, quote, we just need that 412 00:25:08,921 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 2: one break end quote. Detectives identified several people of interest 413 00:25:14,161 --> 00:25:16,481 Speaker 2: over the years, but in the end made no arrests. 414 00:25:17,041 --> 00:25:17,641 Speaker 3: They talked to. 415 00:25:17,641 --> 00:25:20,801 Speaker 2: Neighbors, friends, family members, and a lot of other people, 416 00:25:21,121 --> 00:25:24,321 Speaker 2: including a guy who lived nearby in the woods and 417 00:25:24,361 --> 00:25:27,321 Speaker 2: someone who randomly fired a bullet into a nearby apartment. 418 00:25:27,921 --> 00:25:30,961 Speaker 2: They took DNA from a lot of people, but as 419 00:25:31,001 --> 00:25:35,001 Speaker 2: I read through this case file, I wondered what DNA 420 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 2: they were comparing because they got cheek swabs from a 421 00:25:38,801 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 2: lot of different people, but it's really not clear in 422 00:25:41,921 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 2: the case file what those swabs were being compared to. 423 00:25:45,361 --> 00:25:46,921 Speaker 2: It's one of the things that we're going to try 424 00:25:46,921 --> 00:25:52,161 Speaker 2: to figure out as this investigation goes forward. Danielle, Nina's cousin, 425 00:25:52,481 --> 00:25:55,361 Speaker 2: said she grieves for the life that Nina lost. 426 00:25:55,721 --> 00:25:57,761 Speaker 4: So I could imagine her and josphing together and having 427 00:25:57,801 --> 00:26:01,241 Speaker 4: a beautiful family, and like, those are just things I'll 428 00:26:01,281 --> 00:26:03,841 Speaker 4: never know now, and we probably would have been raising 429 00:26:03,921 --> 00:26:07,641 Speaker 4: kids together and going through life together. And I'll never 430 00:26:07,761 --> 00:26:09,841 Speaker 4: know how she would have been there for me going 431 00:26:09,881 --> 00:26:12,441 Speaker 4: to my divorce, how she would have been there to 432 00:26:12,441 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 4: celebrate my kid's smile, so what her kids would have 433 00:26:15,641 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 4: been like like, I'll just never know those things. 434 00:26:23,321 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 2: Over the years, the case grew cold, even though it 435 00:26:26,161 --> 00:26:29,001 Speaker 2: was a big deal in northwest Arkansas, one of the 436 00:26:29,041 --> 00:26:32,481 Speaker 2: only unsolved murder cases in that region since the nineteen seventies. 437 00:26:33,001 --> 00:26:35,281 Speaker 2: One of the other cases was the University of Arkansas 438 00:26:35,321 --> 00:26:39,041 Speaker 2: student known a Dirkmeyer. Her name will come up later 439 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,321 Speaker 2: in this investigation in a way that I never saw coming. 440 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,321 Speaker 2: Six years passed with no big breaks, and then in 441 00:26:47,361 --> 00:26:50,201 Speaker 2: April twenty twelve, after the new detective was assigned to 442 00:26:50,241 --> 00:26:53,961 Speaker 2: the case, suddenly there was an arrest of someone who 443 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,761 Speaker 2: no one with knowledge of the case had ever heard of, 444 00:26:57,721 --> 00:27:02,361 Speaker 2: a man named Rico Cone. How Rico Cone got onto 445 00:27:02,401 --> 00:27:04,801 Speaker 2: the police radar is very controversial. 446 00:27:05,561 --> 00:27:08,961 Speaker 3: It's something that to my knowledge, has not been reported 447 00:27:09,001 --> 00:27:09,641 Speaker 3: on in full. 448 00:27:10,401 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: Next week, we're going to cover the arrest and trial 449 00:27:13,241 --> 00:27:17,241 Speaker 2: of Rico Cone, the evidence against him, and a crazy 450 00:27:17,241 --> 00:27:20,761 Speaker 2: connection to the murder of Nonah Dirtmeyer, who some people 451 00:27:20,801 --> 00:27:26,041 Speaker 2: believe was murdered by a serial killer who killed Nina Ingram. 452 00:27:26,641 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 2: Was it someone random, a stranger she offended in some 453 00:27:30,241 --> 00:27:33,001 Speaker 2: way as the police in twenty twelve seemed to believe, 454 00:27:33,881 --> 00:27:37,241 Speaker 2: or could it have been someone much closer to her, 455 00:27:38,041 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 2: someone she let in, someone she trusted, And finally, is 456 00:27:42,961 --> 00:27:45,761 Speaker 2: her killers still alive and out there? 457 00:27:47,801 --> 00:27:48,841 Speaker 3: I'm Katherine Townsend. 458 00:27:49,521 --> 00:27:53,361 Speaker 2: This is Helen Gone Murder Line. 459 00:27:53,401 --> 00:27:55,521 Speaker 3: Helen Gone Murder Line is a production of School of 460 00:27:55,561 --> 00:27:57,201 Speaker 3: Humans and iHeart Podcasts. 461 00:27:57,481 --> 00:28:00,361 Speaker 2: It's written and narrated by me Catherine Townsend and produced 462 00:28:00,401 --> 00:28:03,481 Speaker 2: by Gabby Watts. 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