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I'm Michael Knowles, Senator. 79 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: Everyone is debating, not just the horrific incident that happened 80 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: in Uvaldi, the shooting at this elementary school. But it 81 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: seems like from the very second that this happened, you 82 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: had demagogues pushing their own pre existing political agenda and 83 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: yelling and saying do something, do something, and mocking and 84 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: deriding anyone who suggested that we ought to pray about 85 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: this and we ought to let people grieve and mourn. 86 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: You have not just been observing this from Afar. You've 87 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: been down in Uvaldi. What have you seen Yesterday morning? 88 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: I flew into Yuvaldi. I went first to meet with 89 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: the local leaders in law enforcement, met with a mayor, 90 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: met with a county judge, met with a sheriff who's 91 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: absolutely distraught, met with TEXASDPS and the FBI, the district 92 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: attorney's office, and the superintendent of the school board and 93 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: the chief of the school police. And we started the 94 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: day with about a two hour briefing of what we 95 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: knew at that point. You know, what we know is evolving. 96 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: We know more today than we knew yesterday. But the shooter, 97 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: eighteen years old, as you know, in the morning, got 98 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: up and shot his grandmother in the face, and then 99 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: he got in a car, a truck, actually her truck, 100 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: and drove the truck just down the street. So her 101 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: house is just a couple of blocks from the school, 102 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: so he didn't go very far, and he crashed the 103 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: truck into a drainage ditch, and the drainage ditch goes 104 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: down about six to eight feed And I saw I 105 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: was at the school yesterday. I saw the truck which 106 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: is still down in the drainage ditch. He had gone 107 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: through a fence and down into the ditch and crashed there, 108 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: broken the tires off the axles, and then he got 109 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: out of the truck and it was right next to 110 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: the elementary school. And he went into the elementary school. 111 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: And the facts are still unfolding about when exactly law 112 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: enforcement encountered him. What we were told yesterday appears to 113 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: be different from what the facts are today. But he 114 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: entered the back door of the elementary school, and it 115 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: was a door that's right next to the teacher's parking lot. 116 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: And by all appearances, that back door was unlocked, and 117 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: he walked directly into it. He walked into it carrying 118 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: a gun. He went down the hallway and entered a classroom, 119 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: was a fourth grade classroom. That classroom was adjoining to 120 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 1: another classroom, so there were two classrooms that were joining, 121 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: connected by a door in between, and he terrorized those 122 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: children and executed those children, and law enforcement arrived. What 123 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: they're saying today, what DPS has said today, is that 124 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: law enforcement arrived twelve minutes after he crashed the truck 125 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: into that ditch, and he barricaded himself into that classroom 126 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: and a gunfight ensued. That gunfight lasted some time anywhere 127 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: between forty minutes and an hour. And when I met 128 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: with the FBI and law enforcement, they were reviewing the 129 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: footage and they're trying to set the precise timeline. But 130 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: it was an extended it was a protracted gunfight. Three 131 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: law enforcement officers were wounded, although thankfully none of them 132 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: were seriously wounded. And I got to say all day yesterday, 133 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: from meeting with the first responders, to going to the school, UH, 134 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: to seeing the wreckage firsthand, to going last night to 135 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: a prayer vigil. You know, the community had a prayer 136 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: vigil and it was packed. It was inside this this 137 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: UH big indoor barn where they have bull riding and 138 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: they have rodeos there. You know, Vivaldi is a small town. 139 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: It's in South Texas. It's it's a pretty rural town. Um, 140 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: it's outside of San Antonio, but it's it's it's not 141 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: a big city, it's not a big suburb. It is 142 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: a small South Texas town and the community is just shattered. 143 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: Is the grief, the agony. You could see. You could 144 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: see parents just just in tears, whaling. You could see grandparents, 145 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: You could see students, high school dudents walking in with 146 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: just this look of a sort of glazed shock. You know, 147 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: this was the first school shooting since I became a parent. 148 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 1: And obviously there have been lots in my lifetime when 149 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: I was a kid, starting with Columbine and then so many, 150 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: so many others unfortunately that have occurred. But this was 151 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: the first one since I became a parent, and I 152 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: I didn't get it. Yeah, Before I was a parent 153 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: and I you would always hear people say, you're hugging 154 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: your kid closer tonight. This is the worst thing you 155 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: could possibly imagine. I always thought, obviously, this is incredibly tragic, 156 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: but what does that mean. You hug your kid closer 157 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 1: because you just if you, if you are a parent, 158 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: you just you think this is this is the singular 159 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: horror that you can imagine, and it is in part 160 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: why my reaction just to the politics of it and 161 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: the coverage in the media was a little different this time. 162 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: I thought, you can you let people more in a 163 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: little bit? Can you let people grieve a little bit? 164 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: Can you just give it two seconds before this has 165 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: to become some national debate on anyone's pet project. And 166 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: I to tell you it's it's frustrating for me because 167 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: this is not the first time I've been on the 168 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: ground where some psychopath has carried out unactive mass murder. 169 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: I've represented Texas for ten years and we've had way 170 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: too many of these. Santa Fe High School is less 171 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: than an hour outside of Houston. When that lunatic began 172 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: murdering high school kids there, I was at home. I 173 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: got a call at home, I jumped in a truck 174 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: and headed down to Santa Fe. I was there within 175 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: an hour of when the shooting happened. Sutherland Springs, there's 176 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: another small town, rural town outside of San Antonio, worst 177 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: church shooting in US history. I was there the day 178 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: after Sutherland Springs. I was in that beautiful little sanctuary 179 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: when there was still blood and shattered glass, shattered iPhones, 180 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: pews thrown in chaos as that lunatic executed people, including 181 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: that lunatic executed a child that was eighteen months old 182 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: he shot and murdered. I was there in Midland, Odessa 183 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: with another mass murderer. There. I was there in El Paso, Texas, 184 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: with another mass murderer. There. I was in Dallas with 185 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: another mass murderer who targeted police officers. There are broader 186 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: causes that we can and should discuss, causes that we've seen. 187 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: Whether it's the destruction of the nuclear family, whether it 188 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: is the loss of strong and loving father figures and families, Many, 189 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: if not most, of these murderers come from a home 190 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: without a strong and loving father, Whether it is the 191 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: deterioration of faith and community in a church life. And 192 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: it seems almost all of these people are detached from 193 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: their community. And there are lots of things that have 194 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: nothing to do with government and policy that have led 195 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: to angry teenage boys being filled with murderous rage. But 196 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: what your political opponents are going to say is they're 197 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: going to say, well, okay, yeah, enough, we'll do something 198 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: about it. And I almost I mean I guess now 199 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: there is this national debate going on, and so it's 200 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: been a couple days after this shooting, and people are 201 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: just going to be debating all of these policies. But 202 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: it seems almost tired at this point to recite the 203 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: same old litany because it's the same old debate every time. 204 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: But the do something is not enough. In the proposals 205 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: that have been made by the Democrats, almost exclusively to 206 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: regulate guns, none of them would have prevented any of 207 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: these mass shootings. Even the Washington Post admitted that when 208 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio said it in twenty fifteen, even the Post 209 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: fact checker had to admit that that point was right. 210 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: Then you get onto other proposals that could possibly even 211 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: be made here. What would that be, to ban guns entirely, Well, 212 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: you're going to run up against a constitutional problem, a 213 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: practical problem. There are more guns than people in this country. 214 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: There's no political will whatsoever to ban guns, and there's 215 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: not a lot of evidence that banning guns would reduce 216 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: the murder rate. When they banned handguns in the UK, 217 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: the murder rate increased significantly, almost doubled in about six years. 218 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: So it's it's the same old litany of issues, and 219 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: I think I think this is why the people who 220 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: criticize thoughts and prayers and the people who say will 221 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: do something do something. It's why they don't tend to 222 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: get very specific, because they don't have any more of 223 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: an answer on what to do than anybody else does. 224 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: They're just demogoguing the issue and pretending that their sympathetic 225 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: outrage is somehow productive. So let's assess how do we 226 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: stop these? Inevitably, when there's a mass murder, within seconds, 227 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: democrats and the media begin calling for the exact same 228 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: policies they were calling for the day before, which which 229 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: they're objective. And more and more the left is quite 230 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: candid about it is to disarm law abiding citizens throughout 231 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: this country, to take away your firearms, by firearms and 232 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: those of law fighting citizens. There are many problems with that, 233 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: but let's just start with a basic one. It doesn't work. 234 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: Taking away every firearm that Michael Knowles owns would not 235 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: have stopped this psychopath from murdering children in Uvaldi. And 236 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: by the way, we see that in Chicago and New 237 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: York and DC, in California where they have very strict 238 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: gun control, and the criminals still have guns and still 239 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: carry out murders. If you could wave a magic wand 240 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: and eliminate all firearms in America, there would be substantially 241 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: more murders than there are today. I'll give you a 242 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: statistic from the Obama White House. Now, the Obama White 243 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: House is hardly a right wing source. Here's what the 244 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: Obama White House concluded is that firearms are used in 245 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: the United States defensively between five hundred thousand and one 246 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: million times per year, used to stop the commission of 247 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: a crime. So if the Left succeeds and taking away 248 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: everyone's firearms all of the instances, now, that doesn't mean 249 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: that there are between five hundred thousand and a million 250 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: gun fights. Many many times firearms are used to stop 251 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: a robbery, to stop and attempted murderers, to stop a 252 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: kidnapping where the gun isn't fired, but simply brandishing the 253 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: gun causes the criminal to abandon the criminal effort, and 254 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: that happens, according to the Obama White House, between five 255 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: hundred thousand and a million times a year. So eliminating 256 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: all firearms, I believe would cause far more loss of 257 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: life because it would mean that criminals would be able 258 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: to Maraud would be able to commit assaults and not 259 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: be worried about people defending themselves. And by the way, 260 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: the data, if you look at the jurisdictions with the 261 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: strictest gun controls, almost without an exception, they have among 262 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: the highest crime rates and the highest murder rates. And 263 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: places with lower rates of gun control, in other words, 264 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: with more widespread firearms among the citizenry, you have typically 265 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: much lower crime rates, much lower murder rates. But let's 266 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: not skip this question. Is there something we can do 267 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: to stop these And I believe the answer is yes. 268 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: When I first arrived in the Senate, I got elected 269 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve. Just after I arrived, Sandy Hook, the 270 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: horrific school shooting in Connecticut occurred, and so we had 271 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: this debate ten years ago. And when I looked at it, 272 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: I said, then we need to do something. What do 273 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: we need to do. Let's get the guns out of 274 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: the hands of the violent criminals, the felons and fugitives 275 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: and those with serious mental illness. And so I authored legislation. 276 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: It was called Grassly Cruise. Grassly Cruise was legislation targeting 277 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: the bad guys. And so one of the things it did, 278 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: is it improve the background check system. If you look 279 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: at we have a background check, so if you or 280 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: I go by a gun, you got to run a 281 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: background check. It runs the check to see if you 282 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: have a felony conviction. That database is only as good 283 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: as the information in it, and a lot of the 284 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: federal government has been lousy at reporting felony convictions to 285 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: the database, and a lot of states, interestingly enough, many 286 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: of them Blue states, have terrible records reporting the felonies 287 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: to the background check database. You look at Sutherland Springs, 288 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: which was the church shooting in Texas. In that instance, 289 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: that crime should have been prevented. Why because the shooter 290 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: there it was already illegal for him to buy a firearm. 291 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: He was a felon and he had domestic violence conviction, 292 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: so it was doubly illegal. So why was he able 293 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: to buy his firearm? Well, the reason is that the 294 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: Obama Air Force never reported the conviction to the background 295 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: check database. So he went into a gun store to 296 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: buy his gun. He filled out the background check form 297 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: and he live. He was asked, do you have a 298 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: felony conviction? He checked the box and said no. He 299 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: was asked, do you have a domestic violence conviction. He 300 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: checked the box and said no, they in the background check. 301 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: And because the federal government, the Obama administration, never reported 302 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: his felony conviction to the database, the background check came 303 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: up clean, and they sold him the firearm. So one 304 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: of the things Grassly Crews did is mandated the federal government, 305 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice, to do an audit of every 306 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: federal agency to ensure that all felony convictions were in 307 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,239 Speaker 1: the database. It also provided funds for states to do 308 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 1: the same thing for state convictions. But beyond that, every 309 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: year there's a vast number of felons and fugitives who 310 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: try to illegally buy firearms. The Department of Justice prosecutes 311 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: almost none of them. In fact, i'll give you the 312 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: stats from twenty ten, which was the last year there 313 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: were stats from before when I drafted Grassly Cruse. In 314 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: that year, there were forty eight thousand felons and fugitives 315 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: who tried to illegally buy firearms. Forty eight thousand of those. 316 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: Do you know how many the Department of Justice prosecute 317 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: forty four And by the way, that continues to this day. 318 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: The Biden Justice Department still is not prosecuting felons and 319 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: fugitives who try to illegally buy firearms. Grassly CRUs mandated 320 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: the creation of a Gun Crime Task Force at the 321 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: Department of Justice to go and prosecute and put in 322 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: jail felons and fugitives who illegally buy firearms. Now, what 323 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: happened to Grassley Cruz. We voted on the Senate floor 324 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: on that bill. It got a majority. It got fifty 325 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: two votes in favor of it. Nine Democrats voted in 326 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: favor of Grassly Cruise got the most bipartisan support of 327 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: any of the comprehensive legislation that was voted on. So 328 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: why didn't it pass? Well, it was the Harry Reid 329 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: Democrats Senate, and the Democrats filibustered it. They demanded sixty votes. 330 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: So even though I had fifty two votes, we didn't 331 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: have sixty, and so it failed. Becau as Harry Reid 332 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: and Chuck Schumer and the Democrats filibuster did. They're not 333 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: really focused on this issue, right, They're focused on pushing 334 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: the same legislation that they've wanted to push for decades now, 335 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 1: and they'll use any circumstance to try to push that. 336 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: But what we're seeing here in the specifics of this 337 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: actual shooting is, in some ways it seems like it's 338 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: a repeat of the Parkland shooting. You've got a kid 339 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: who was showing serious signs of trouble. He should have 340 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: been identified much sooner. There should have been safeguards placed 341 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: around this kid, much much sooner. There are now questions 342 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: about when law enforcement got there, if law enforcement did 343 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: enough in the moment you're seeing I'm not saying it's 344 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: a repeat of history, but you're seeing lots and lots 345 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: of similarities, none of which you're addressed by the legislation 346 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: that the Democrats are proposing. I sat down and participated 347 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: in round tables with the families of the victims who 348 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: were murdered in Santa Fe, and it included families who 349 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: were in Parkland, families who were in other mass shootings, 350 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: and we talked about how do you prevent them? And 351 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: as you talk to experts, one of the things they 352 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: said is for schools, many schools are very, very vulnerable, 353 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: and there are concrete steps we can take to harden 354 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: schools and make them safer. In particular, here's what the 355 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: experts have recommended they've said, you don't want multiple means 356 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: of entering the school. You don't want lots and lots 357 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: of open doors. If you look at how the shooter 358 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: got in Uvality, he went into a backdoor that was unlocked. 359 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: That's exactly how the shooter went in in Santa Fe. 360 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: A backdoor that was unlocked. He was able to get in, 361 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: and then he was able to get right into a classroom. 362 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: Same thing in Santa Fe. So twice the same thing happened. 363 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 1: What the recommendations were is have a single point of 364 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: entry for the school, one door that everyone comes through. 365 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: If you think about it, a secure facility, a courthouse, 366 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: a federal building, they often have a single point of 367 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: entry because from a security perspective, that much safer at 368 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: that point of entry. The single most effective security step 369 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: you can take is to have armed police officers there 370 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: at that point of entry. That has a greater impact 371 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: on keeping kids safe than just about anything else you 372 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: can do on school safety. Funding for school safety should 373 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: be a no brainer. There's not a single Democrat who 374 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: opposes it on principle, But every time I've tried to 375 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: force a vote on it, Schumer has blocked it because 376 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: his view is if he can't take away law abiding 377 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: citizens guns, he's not willing to do anything. I hope 378 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: after this that changes. But you know, part of the problem, Michael, 379 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: the press are active advocates and partisans. I've never seen 380 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: one Democrat asked why they vote against in filibusters school 381 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: safety funding funds for police officers in schools, funds to 382 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: put bulletproof doors and bulletproof glass and classrooms and locks 383 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: that an assailant can't enter the classroom. If this guy 384 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: had entered the school and the school classrooms had been 385 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: locked and he couldn't get in, he couldn't have murdered 386 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: these children. Last night, when I was at the prayer vigil, 387 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: there was this British reporter, this this kind of you know, 388 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: ran and chase me and stuck his TV camera in 389 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: my face and I'm walking out of the door. And 390 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: the first he asked me about what we were seeing there, 391 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: and I said, look, this is horrific. This is their 392 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: nineteen sets of parents who are not going to be 393 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: able to hug their child tonight or see their child, 394 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: and it is it's the most unspeakable evil we could imagine. 395 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: And he immediately jumped into what don't we need to 396 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: pass gun control? And I didn't want to argue with 397 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: this guy, and I'm disengaging. He's a British guy who 398 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: was an obnoxious leftist, and he's like, why does this 399 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: only happen in America? Doesn't happen anywhere else in the world. 400 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: It's only America. Why is American exceptionalism so horrible? The 401 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: premise of his question is factually false. And I actually 402 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: Newsweek just published something which which I'll point out. I'm 403 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: quoting from Newsweek that says since nineteen eighty eight, there 404 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: have been a total of nine attacks similar to the 405 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: rob elementary school shooting. Nine is nine too many, But 406 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: once you adjust for population, there are many other countries 407 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: from Germany to Russia to Finland that have comparable rates 408 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: of school shootings, and in fact, it goes in and 409 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: it breaks down. According to a Crime Prevention Research Center 410 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: report from twenty twenty, and this is a quote, the 411 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: US is well below the world average in terms of 412 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: the number of mass public shootings, and the global increase 413 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: over time has been much bigger than for the United States. 414 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: And it goes on to say that by our account, 415 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: the US makes up less than one point one three 416 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: percent of the mass public shooters, one point seven seven 417 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: percent of the murders, and two point one nine percent 418 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: of their attacks. All of these are much less than 419 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: the United States is four point six percent share of 420 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: world population. And it goes on to say, again, this 421 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: is a quote out of the one hundred and one 422 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: countries where we have identified mass public shootings occurring, the 423 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: United States ranks sixty sixth in per capita frequency of 424 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: these attacks and fifty sixth in the murder rate. And 425 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: on this issue in particular, the press is so wildly 426 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: dishonest that I understand why people at home don't understand 427 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: what to do about it. Most people at home don't 428 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: know that their laws we could pass that would stop 429 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: felons and fugitives from illegally buying guns and put them 430 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: in jail, but the Democrats are blocking that. Most people 431 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: don't know that. Most people don't know the Democrats have 432 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: been blocking more funding for school safety for years, and 433 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: the press will not report it. And that's why things 434 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: like this podcast I think matters. If this show and 435 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: other shows like it can do nothing else beyond breakup 436 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: what is an extremely dishonest uniform narrative that could be 437 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: politically quite productive. Now this is this isn't the only 438 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: venue on which you can discuss these sorts of things. 439 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: As you know, you Senator and you all of you 440 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: out there in podcast land, there is another series where 441 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: you can go even further if you are a Verdict 442 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: Plus subscriber. That is The Cloak Room with Liz Wheeler. Liz, 443 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: what will you be talking about, Hi, Senator Hi, Michael. 444 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: Unfortunately we have to talk about Betto O'Rourke's shameful stunt 445 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: at the press conference. Senator, you were there at press 446 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: conference when Betto interrupted Governor Greg Abbott. We're going to 447 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that. We're also going to 448 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: talk about the police response or lack thereof, to this shooting. 449 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: What happened, what went wrong, what could have been done, 450 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: what should have been done that could have potentially saved 451 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: the lives of these children. Please join us for this 452 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: important conversation on Verdict Plus. You can go to Verdict 453 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: with Ted Cruise dot com slash plus for this special 454 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: episode of The Cloakroom. There is lots more coming up 455 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: on The Cloakroom and of course on the next episode 456 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: of Verdict, so make sure to get your mail back, 457 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: questions and Senator, thank you very much. I'm Michael Knowles. 458 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: This is Verdict with Ted Cruz. 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