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Speaker 1: Welcome to hollywood Land, the Rap Party. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: hollywood Land Bonus episode. That's right, it's the Rap Party.

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Speaker 1: This is where you come to hang out after that

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Speaker 1: is Seth Lundy. I'm a writer and editor here at

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Speaker 1: Double Elvis, and on this bonus episode, we are talking

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Speaker 1: about this week's full episode subject of hollywood Land, John

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Speaker 1: Holmes and the Wonderland Murders. We are previewing next week's

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Speaker 1: episode on Roman Polanski. We're talking movie and music recommendations,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to check out your voicemail, texts, dms

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Speaker 1: and emails. So come on, everybody, let's party. There's this

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Speaker 1: great article that was originally published in Rolling Stone magazine

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Speaker 1: It's written by this journalist's named Mike Sager. I believe

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Speaker 1: find it in his excellent books Scary Monsters and Super Freaks.

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Speaker 1: Stories of Sex, Drugs, rock and Roll and Murder. This

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Speaker 1: that WAD documentary, but I definitely saw the video evidence

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Speaker 1: from the crime scene. I think that's on YouTube as well,

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Speaker 1: but I watched a lot of that when I was

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Speaker 1: researching this episode, and it is gnarly as fuck. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen that, Jake or not, but.

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Speaker 2: I want no part of gnarly crime scene footage on

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Speaker 2: YouTube after that Buyerck episode of Disgrace San and I

435
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Speaker 2: want I want no part of a documentary called WAD.

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Speaker 3: It's disgusting.

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Speaker 1: It's with two d's, by the way. Still, I think

438
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Speaker 1: I went through three episodes in a row that I

439
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: wrote that was about like heroin shit, heroin addiction, and

440
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: you researching the Buyork episode and stuff. It's just like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Sometimes sometimes the holes we go down

442
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: are a little well, a little too dark, you know.

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00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: Very dark, very dark indeed, and sometimes they're fun. There's

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00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: a torture scene that I scored this morning that I'm.

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Speaker 3: Very excited about.

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Speaker 2: It great, but that's it's like, you know, it's a

447
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 2: podcast form, it's not raw crime scene footage.

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00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 3: That's the real darkness.

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Speaker 1: Totally Okay. Another text here from the casey from the

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Speaker 1: five oh six. Not a gen X, but I am

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Speaker 1: the millennial child of gen X parents. My mom imbued

452
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Speaker 1: me with all her interests music, cinema, live music, and

453
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Speaker 1: television Twin Peaks, Old Twilight Zone, Newer Twilight Zone, The

454
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: Off Forgotten Show, The Outer Limits, Hitchcock Presents X Files.

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Speaker 1: We are quite close in age, eighteen years apart, so

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Speaker 1: maybe it's because of the small age gap. I'm so

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Speaker 1: happy I was influenced by her generation as well as

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Speaker 1: my older grandparents.

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Speaker 3: Ah, that's nice, She's lucky.

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Speaker 2: I'm eighteen years apart from my mom and we don't

461
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Speaker 2: share hardly anything really comes to cultural like music, movies, books.

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Speaker 2: We relate on books. But yeah, my parents, there's a

463
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Speaker 2: strong generation gap. It had a lot to do to talent.

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Speaker 2: I came from where it's forever nineteen fifty five. It's

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Speaker 2: still nineteen fifty five. So if you were a parent,

466
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Speaker 2: you were a parent and the kids were kids, and

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Speaker 2: you know, I kind of appreciate that. I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: that like it's a complaint, and I try to keep

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Speaker 2: some sort of you know, demarcation between my kids and

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Speaker 2: I as well. I like it when they're into stuff

471
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: that I hate and vice versa. Yeah, so anyhow, But

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00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 2: on the other hand, I think it's really cute and

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Speaker 2: sweet with the text road. I think that's awesome that

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Speaker 2: as a millennial she gets exposure to this cool gen

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Speaker 2: X culture that we're always talking about. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, thanks Casey. One more here, I want to read

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Speaker 1: from Mikey T in the six' five to One love

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Speaker 1: The Rap. PARTY i appreciate what you're putting out. There

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Speaker 1: as far As john The Legend belushi and my exposure

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Speaker 1: to his, awesomeness it was Definitely Animal. House the good

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Speaker 1: fight scene had me laughing my ass. Off i'm a,

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Speaker 1: ZiT get, It keep up the good, Fight MIKEY t

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Speaker 1: from The Twin. Cities MIKEY, t thanks once again for

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Speaker 1: reaching out and letting us. Know everybody else Like MIKEY.

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Speaker 1: T here call us text us six one seven nine

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Speaker 1: oh six six six three, eight even if it's just

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Speaker 1: a quote from one of your favorite. Movies we love movie.

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Speaker 1: Quotes you can email us as well at disgraceslampod at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot, com hit us up On, Instagram facebook x

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Speaker 1: at Disgraceslam, pod send us your. Recommendations but, First jake

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00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: AND i have some recommendations for all of, you which

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get into right after these. Ads hang, Tight,

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Speaker 1: hey we're, Back Zeth lundy And Jake brennan coming at

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Speaker 1: you with the part of the Rap. Party we call

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Speaker 1: for your. Consideration this is Where jake AND i give

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Speaker 1: you music and movie. Recommendations but the twist is that

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Speaker 1: they are recommendations inspired by the subject from this week's

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Speaker 1: episode Of Hollywood. Land with that, Said John Holmes Wonderland. Murders,

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Speaker 1: jake what music recommendations are you bringing to the table this.

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Speaker 2: WEEK i can't think Of John holmes and The Wonderland

501
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: murders without thinking Of Boogie. Nights AND i mentioned THIS

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00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: i think before WHEN i saw. It WHEN i first

503
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: Saw Boogie knights AND i saw that, SCENE i KNEW

504
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 2: i didn't know anything About John holmes and The Wonderland,

505
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: murders BUT i knew it had it was so, absurd

506
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: it had to be based on something. Real and then

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00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: lo and, behold we find out what it. Is it's

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00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: this story that we're depicting in our episode Of Hollywood.

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00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: Land so, YEAH i just can't think about. AGAIN i

510
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: can't think About John holmes without thinking About Boogie, knights

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00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: and that has something to do with the recommendations. Here

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00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: so but first of, All Eddie, Nash i'm obsessed lately

513
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 2: with this song by Another. Eddie eddie and The Hot

514
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: Rods Do anything You want To do is the name

515
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: of the.

516
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: Song and it is.

517
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: Incredible it is. Uplifting it's one of those songs you

518
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: put On you're gonna drive faster than you should be,

519
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 2: Driving you're gonna feel good for the rest of the.

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00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: Day fantastic, tune great message as.

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Speaker 1: Well eddie and The Hot. Rods are they different From

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Speaker 1: eddie and The. Cruisers, yes much. DIFFERENT i remember seeing

523
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: that record all the time in any record store you

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00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: go Into eddie The cruisers like. That was that a

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00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: soundtrack or? Something it was a.

526
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: Movie And eddie and The, cruisers the fictional band were

527
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: an actual real. Band John cafferty and The Beaver Brown. Bands,

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00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: yeah what a name From, PHILLY i. Believe can't quote

529
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: me on that BECAUSE i actually don't.

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00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 3: KNOW i just think It's.

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Speaker 2: Philly they were like A Springsteen, yeah, yeah, yeah you

532
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: know WHAT i. Mean, yeah AND i had real hits

533
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: hold The, DOGS i was gonna, say on the dark.

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Speaker 4: Side, yeah.

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00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: And they're like that was like you get Your Bruce

536
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: springsteen at, home you, know.

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00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

538
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: Exactly But Eddie eddie and The Hot, RODS i believe

539
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: were like a pub rock band in the late seventies

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00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: and In.

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Speaker 3: LONDON i don't know much about. THEM i just know they're,

542
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: like you, know punk, punkish pub rocky type. Thing this

543
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 3: song is.

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00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: INCREDIBLE i don't know HOW i got onto, it but

545
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: it's just fucking. Great the other THING i always think

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00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: of is the Album Heaven tonight By Cheap. Trick, now

547
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: there's no real connection Between Heaven tonight And Eddie nash

548
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: Or Heaven tonight And Boogie nights THAT i know. Of

549
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: maybe there's one THAT i came across AND i can't,

550
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: remember but they're connected in my. Head and ALL i

551
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: can think of is THAT i got Into Cheap trick

552
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: right around the TIME i THINK i Saw Boogie knights

553
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: AND i got into the.

554
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: Story and if you listen.

555
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: To Heaven, tonight which is a fantastic album and has

556
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: that great song on it Called California, man there's literally

557
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: not a bad song On Heaven, tonight that great Song California.

558
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: MAN i made some connection between The wonderland murders, like,

559
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: ah this is what those guys would have been listening.

560
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: To and WHENEVER i hear that, ALBUM i think of that.

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00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 3: Story and there's a.

562
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: Menace even though it's, good great pop, music there's a

563
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: menace to. It there's a menace to the, guitars to the,

564
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: riffs there's a menace to the. Singing it still, pop

565
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: it still kind of makes you feel, good but you

566
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: feel like you kind of want, to you, know do

567
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: something bad as. Well So Heaven tonight By Cheap. Trick and,

568
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: lastly again because of The Boogie knight's connection the Song

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00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: Living thing By Yello Booge knights made it okay for

570
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: me to Think yello was, okay and Then Donnie brosco as,

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00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: Well and it's because A Living thing and In Boogie nights,

572
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: soundtrack and it's because of, uh don't bring Me down

573
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: when they're going over the bridge or, no, no, sorry

574
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: It's blondie when they're going over the. Bridge It's elo

575
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: when they go down To florida to meet With santo Traffic.

576
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: Conte so whatever, Reason Living thing because Of Boogie knights

577
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: And Heaven, tonight because of The Wonderland murders And eddie

578
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: and The Hot rods.

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Speaker 3: Do anything you want to do because Of Eddie.

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Speaker 1: Nash that's like a great start to like a summertime,

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Speaker 1: playlist right.

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Speaker 2: There so there you.

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Speaker 4: Go i'm digging.

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00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: This i'm digging. That i'm gonna we're gonna build off,

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Speaker 1: that all. Right i'm doing something a little bit different

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Speaker 1: here for my movie recommendations. THINKING i was listening to

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Speaker 1: this episode, again The John holmes, episode and a big

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00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,719
Speaker 1: part of it is that he's this washed up protagonist

589
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Speaker 1: who's trying to get his mojo.

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00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 4: Back.

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Speaker 1: Right So i've thought about three recommendations of MOVIES i

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00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: love the feature washed up protagonists trying to ride high

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00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: one more. Time first one Is The Verdict nice in eighty,

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Speaker 1: two directed By Si, lamett written By David, mammott Starring

595
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: Paul newman as a washed up alcoholic Lawyer boston. Movie

596
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: of course you love this.

597
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: Movie it's one of the Greatest Paul newman performances. Ever,

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00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: yeah might be the Greatest Paul newman performance of all.

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00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: Time and just also Like, cerproco Also Sitney, lumette RIGHT

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Speaker 2: i believe so, yeah.

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00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: Yep one of the.

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00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: Great bars in movie, history the Bar Paul Newman drinks

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00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: at WHICH i don't know if it's actually On Beacon,

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00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: street across from The, park across from The, common but

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00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: it certainly looks like it looks like a great great.

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00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: Bar and In cirproco there's that Great New york bar

607
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: with the horseshoe though it's like a horseshoe. Bar might

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00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: even be a horseshoe horseshoe bar in The verdict, TOO

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00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: i don't. Know it definitely Isn't. CYPROCO i Think i'm

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00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: pretty Sure i've been in That Lower East side bar

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00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: that was In cerproco In New york at some. Point if,

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00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: Not i've always imagined it was the same. One so

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00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: that's the point Is Sidney lumette has a, great great

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00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: eye for great.

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00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: Bars it is great, movies.

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00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: All, right The verdict check that. Out if you haven't seen,

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00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: THAT i should look up and see where these things

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00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: are for. People IF i JUST i finally subscribe to

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00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: The criterion, channel by the, way oh, yeah there you,

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00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: go And i'm living my best life, there all. Right

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Speaker 1: eight and a half is my second pick from nineteen sixty.

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00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: Three this is one Of fellini's many masterpieces With Marcelo.

623
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: Mastroianni this is more about being creatively blocked than washed.

624
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: Up but this is the whole? Movie is this surreal

625
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: attempt for a director to get his mojo. Back do

626
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: you are you A fellini? Guy i'm.

627
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 4: Not.

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00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: No have you Seen eight and A? HALF i.

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Speaker 2: Haven't i've seen you, KNOW i don't know what it.

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00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: IS i like surrealism in, FILM i just don't like

631
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: it to be the whole.

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00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 4: FILM i.

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00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: Film that's what keeps me From fellini and keeps me

634
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: from a lot of farm. Films Butaritarian live is great

635
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: because it just if you just have it, on it'll

636
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: just show you stuff and it's a great way to

637
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: pull you into films that you wouldn't normally choose to.

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00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: Watch maybe that'll that'll be my entry into eight and a.

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00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: Half, yeah, YEAH i, mean as Surreal fellini, goes this

640
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: is one of the more surreal, ones where like the

641
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: whole movie is is is. Wild but, yeah if you

642
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: haven't seen Any fellini, movies it's a great place to.

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Speaker 1: Start and then, Third Sunset boulevard from nineteen Fifty Billy wilder's,

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Speaker 3: Won The Academy award For Best Picture. TOO i believe.

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Speaker 1: COMEDY i would, say, yeah something like a.

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Speaker 3: Name the guy who plays the bad guy from THE tv.

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Speaker 3: Life, ah not his, Life i'm overstating.

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Speaker 1: Film The apartment's. Fantastic, yeah, yeah totally huh. Interesting all, right,

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Speaker 1: well let us know if you guys have seen any

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Speaker 1: of these, movies you've heard these the tracks That jake,

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Speaker 1: recommended let us know what some of your picks.

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Speaker 1: Buddy delish all, right man, later catch you. Later, okay everybody,

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Speaker 1: else stay. Put i'll be back with some final thoughts

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Speaker 1: right after. This what's, up, Guys we are back and

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Speaker 1: Okay and until we speak, again remember a couple of.

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Speaker 1: and Five, now in honor of this week's, episode me

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Speaker 1: reading you the list of the top movies From july

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Speaker 1: two directed By Richard. Lester number Two For Your Eyes,

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