Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, I want you to do a new
Speaker 1: beat every time. Hey hey, hey, is that a new beat?
Speaker 2: I mean, well, you know, like it's not my normal
Speaker 2: like Broadway beat, like hey hey, hey.
Speaker 1: You know, well you know I'm still I'm still learning.
Speaker 1: I'm still learning.
Speaker 3: I can dig.
Speaker 1: How are you, Mandra.
Speaker 3: I'm doing good. I'm doing really good good.
Speaker 1: I'm Tiffany. I wish forget to introduce ourselves.
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, I know who you are.
Speaker 1: Whatever, but people might be new, they might be like, well,
Speaker 1: who are these people?
Speaker 3: Hey guys, I'm Mandra and.
Speaker 1: We are.
Speaker 2: So I feel like we haven't, like, you know, what's
Speaker 2: new in the zoo. I saw your ig stories, which
Speaker 2: I loved of like your updates with like the house renovations.
Speaker 2: First of all, I love the drawings. Yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 2: was awesome. Honestly, I was like, oh, I can see it.
Speaker 4: He's like a broke ass property brother documenting my house project.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: We're really it's coming along really good. We're getting toward
Speaker 4: the end. We're having Yeah, we're having some final inspections
Speaker 4: and talking about furniture now, so it seems like we
Speaker 4: will we'll definitely get in there before I mean knock
Speaker 4: on wood before Thanksgiving is still my goal.
Speaker 1: I'm so jealous.
Speaker 2: We're definitely not going to get before Thanksgiving. We've got
Speaker 2: one of our partments. We're just waiting for the other two,
Speaker 2: and so it's just we're kind of like a little
Speaker 2: bit halted. But one good news is that so for
Speaker 2: the master bath, I've always wanted a separate shower, separate tub,
Speaker 2: and looking for a tub for Superman has not been
Speaker 2: easy because he's six it And I found one though,
Speaker 2: and it's like it's beautiful but not it's big, but
Speaker 2: not like obnoxiously big, and like his he actually even
Speaker 2: though he he's got long legs, you know, obviously because
Speaker 2: he's six six, but it's actually his torso and up
Speaker 2: that's longer.
Speaker 1: That makes him taller. So he's able to sit in
Speaker 1: this tub.
Speaker 4: And he's like, I'm like really picturing him in the
Speaker 4: tub and I feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like we went to this tub place.
Speaker 2: I don't know, have you everard, you know, like lately
Speaker 2: we've been going to a lot of kind of like
Speaker 2: off market like bath places, or not even just bath places,
Speaker 2: but furniture places, like.
Speaker 4: Those places on the highway that you always drive by
Speaker 4: but like you never really go in until you need
Speaker 4: a tub.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So we went to this place and I really liked
Speaker 2: it and I was like, okay, sitting it and his
Speaker 2: legs stretched all the way out. I was like, I
Speaker 2: think this is the tub. So there's that piece of
Speaker 2: good news because I didn't know, you know, because I'm
Speaker 2: he's more of a bath person honestly than I am.
Speaker 2: Like I'm more of a shower and then occasional bath,
Speaker 2: but he'll, you know, I feel like he'd take a
Speaker 2: bath every day if he could. But our baths now
Speaker 2: is like traditional size, which is like, you know, too small.
Speaker 2: So yeah for that, I mean, we were moving really
Speaker 2: quickly and now like grinding to a halt because we're waiting.
Speaker 2: But I mean I feel I feel like a January
Speaker 2: move in is likely, which I'm nervous about because of
Speaker 2: Jersey weather, but you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all about stress management.
Speaker 3: What else is going on?
Speaker 4: So I officially declared next Tuesday work from home Tuesday
Speaker 4: for the people that report to me, because I want
Speaker 4: everyone to have ample time and flexibility to get.
Speaker 3: Out and vote.
Speaker 1: Yes, please Jesus.
Speaker 4: Get out and vote. Get out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It just feels like, if you you know midterm elections,
Speaker 4: it feels like this has more hype than even even
Speaker 4: the presidential election day, which is kind of sad to me.
Speaker 4: But the stakes are huge. The stakes are so huge.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is going to determine control of the
Speaker 4: two chambers of Congress. I mean, this is this has
Speaker 4: massive implications. And if you're upset, if you're feeling like,
Speaker 4: you know, the government is not working for you, the
Speaker 4: only thing you can do is vote.
Speaker 1: Exactly. No, I agree, you just like, is this real life?
Speaker 2: I'm wonder, Like I wonder one day when I'm like
Speaker 2: a grandma, like what my kids or my grandkids will
Speaker 2: say about this time, Like is it true.
Speaker 1: Grandma that you add an idiot named I'm like, oh lord, girl,
Speaker 1: I'll talk about those tabs. We call those the doc ages.
Speaker 4: Listen, the Holocaust happened, Slavery happened. We are capable of
Speaker 4: great terribleness, Like, yes we are. All you know, all
Speaker 4: we can do is vote, I am.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you one. One.
Speaker 4: One thing that is giving me so much hope right
Speaker 4: now is so my mom. I've talked about her on
Speaker 4: the show before. She is the She's the woman that.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are talking about white
Speaker 4: Midwestern women who voted for Trump, and you know, like,
Speaker 4: how are they going to vote this time? How is
Speaker 4: the perception of Trump changed? And like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I've I've talked about before how delicate it's been talking
Speaker 4: to my mom about politics. I mean, we had like terrible,
Speaker 4: like earth shattering fights the year after the election, and
Speaker 4: then we just decided we cannot have a relationship if
Speaker 4: we just talk about politics. So we just stopped altogether.
Speaker 4: And it's like walking on eggshells with her. You know,
Speaker 4: I try not to mention anything. It's been difficult, but Okay.
Speaker 4: I was on the phone with her like a week
Speaker 4: or two ago and she got quiet, and we were
Speaker 4: talking about what I was gonna do for the weekend,
Speaker 4: and she was like, you know, I think I'm gonna
Speaker 4: go check out The Hate You Give? And I said, what,
Speaker 4: I haven't even read that book, to be honest, And
Speaker 4: I was like, you're gonna go see the Hate You Give? Okay,
Speaker 4: this is and if you guys don't know, that's a
Speaker 4: movie about a young black teenager in I don't know
Speaker 4: where it takes place. It was shot in Atlanta, the
Speaker 4: film itself, but anyway, young black teenager gets pulled away
Speaker 4: the cops and gets shot, and it's just about the
Speaker 4: repercussions of that incident. Anyway, my mom was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Go see it. I love the book. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay. Next thing she said was, you know,
Speaker 4: I watched the debate she lives in. She lives in
Speaker 4: Missouri right really really highly contested race per Senate in
Speaker 4: Missouri right now, where the Democratic incumbent is really in
Speaker 4: danger of losing her seat. And there's a you know,
Speaker 4: a Trump uh kind of Trump flag waving Republican is
Speaker 4: in is her uh is her opponent. And my mom
Speaker 4: said she had watched the debate and then she was like,
Speaker 4: I don't really like that that what's his face? I
Speaker 4: forget his name now, I don't really like that that Republican,
Speaker 4: you know, but I you know, uh. And she started
Speaker 4: talking me, saying some positive things about the Democrat candidate,
Speaker 4: and I was like, Okay, hold your breath, don't screw
Speaker 4: this up. Don't screw this up, Mandy, shut don't. And
Speaker 4: then she said, you know, Mandy, I feel like this
Speaker 4: year is going to be a big year for me.
Speaker 4: I feel like I am more aware of what's going
Speaker 4: on and I might be making some changes dot dot dot,
Speaker 4: and I just said nothing. I literally held my breath
Speaker 4: and I was like, but inside I'm dancing because I'm
Speaker 4: like something is shifting, Like she's I feel like if
Speaker 4: she's been able to sort of change the way that
Speaker 4: she's voting or at least thinking about politics in a
Speaker 4: different way, that gives me so much heart and so
Speaker 4: much hope that maybe we will see some real change
Speaker 4: with the selection coming up.
Speaker 2: You know, I just think so much has happened where
Speaker 2: you just can't ignore it. And I love that that
Speaker 2: because not everyone's open. That's like like because you know
Speaker 2: my dad and it's like traditional, like you know, older,
Speaker 2: like you know, especially when when people get older, if
Speaker 2: they grew up Christian, they tend to be like hyper
Speaker 2: Christian during that time. And so he was like very
Speaker 2: much like, you know, I think, you know, homosexuality is bad.
Speaker 2: When Allen came out, he was like no, no, no,
Speaker 2: turn off the TV. You know. But then he was like, so,
Speaker 2: my dad's really big and watching political channels. It was
Speaker 2: like I love, like, so he loves Rachel Maddow like, oh,
Speaker 2: when I say loves yo, I was like, looking, I
Speaker 2: remember he was Tiffy, have you watched Rachel?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: I just love Rachel. Oh my god. And I was
Speaker 1: looking at myself.
Speaker 2: I thought to myself, do you know, Daddy like Rachel,
Speaker 2: she's as gay as they come.
Speaker 1: I didn't sound him.
Speaker 2: That, but I was like, mm hmm, you love Rachel,
Speaker 2: don't do you. I don't think he knew at first.
Speaker 2: And then I don't know if she came out on
Speaker 2: TV or or if it came out. And then he
Speaker 2: was like, Tiffany, did you did you know that Rachel
Speaker 2: was gay?
Speaker 1: I was like, she is?
Speaker 2: And I could see he was grappling with it, like
Speaker 2: I love Rachel Rachel.
Speaker 1: And so he kind of left it there and still
Speaker 1: was watching.
Speaker 2: And so and then one day, like maybe last year,
Speaker 2: my dad was talking casual, talking casually. He was saying
Speaker 2: something something yeah, Rachel. She was saying that her and
Speaker 2: her partner that she I couldn't believe it. I was like,
Speaker 2: did my father say partner?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: And he was just you thinking like her and her
Speaker 2: partner that they should be able to And I agree,
Speaker 2: I think that.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, look, at the world changing.
Speaker 1: You've changed a little ebo man from somebody who just
Speaker 1: was like, has this singular focus about this is what
Speaker 1: I don't get homosexuality. So it's it's wrong and it's
Speaker 1: terrible and this, this and that.
Speaker 2: But then someone that you respect so much and that
Speaker 2: you think is so awesome happens to be the very
Speaker 2: thing that you're like must be so terrible and wrong,
Speaker 2: and it calls him to question what you believe. Man,
Speaker 2: Not that I think that he's like, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm sure he still has his you know, obviously believes
Speaker 2: about you know, Christianity, but he is realizing that it's
Speaker 2: not as black and white as as people would make it,
Speaker 2: you know. And I just love the fact that, like,
Speaker 2: you know, that if he as old as he is
Speaker 2: in his seventies can make the switch. I think, like
Speaker 2: anyone can kind of make the switch.
Speaker 3: So I love that, Tiff.
Speaker 4: I have to tell you, so you know how we
Speaker 4: talk about my Jamal. Yeah, I have another name. I
Speaker 4: found out another guy listens and his name is Ian. Okay, hey, Ian,
Speaker 4: he works with me. And I found out he listened
Speaker 4: to our podcast and I did I died. He doesn't
Speaker 4: know what Ian, I know if you're listening.
Speaker 3: I really died.
Speaker 4: He's like, we were on a we were talking about
Speaker 4: something at work, and he was like, so I heard
Speaker 4: on that Paychecks and Balances crossover episode. Man, me and
Speaker 4: my wife are going through something similar, you know where
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about, uh, you know, covering some whatever. I'm
Speaker 4: not putting his business out there, but he quoted something
Speaker 4: from the show and I was like, Ian, shut his face.
Speaker 1: Ya. Isn't it crazy? Like whenever people like, you know,
Speaker 1: like actually listen.
Speaker 2: I mean it's even when women, I'm like, really, i
Speaker 2: just always feel like I'm talking to you. I'm like hey, Mandy,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, wait what, especially when people now because
Speaker 2: they know I'm not a hugger, so they love hugging
Speaker 2: me and they give me two one for me, one
Speaker 2: for you. And so when people like just come up
Speaker 2: to me and they're like, oh my god, I love the.
Speaker 1: Podcast coming in and said, Hi, how's the house going,
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, and I'm like, wow, y'all, really.
Speaker 4: You know, give her two hugs from me y too,
Speaker 4: and squeeze really hard and linger.
Speaker 2: Don't do that, because I was definitely gonna be like
Speaker 2: you know what, Oh my goodness, h.
Speaker 1: Oh, anything else from you, mandra.
Speaker 3: Let's move it on to boost and break? How about that?
Speaker 1: I think that.
Speaker 3: I think I got a good one.
Speaker 1: Okay, what are you gonna do? Are you gonna boost? Break?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna boost? Are you gonna break? Are you
Speaker 1: gonna booz booz? Are you gonna break? That was a
Speaker 1: little improblem you welcome.
Speaker 3: That was impressive. They're not always impressive, but that was
Speaker 3: pretty good. Pretty good. I want to do a break
Speaker 3: real quick.
Speaker 4: I want to do a break for just I'm just
Speaker 4: speaking to people out there who are maybe early in
Speaker 4: their careers or you know, it's a hot job market
Speaker 4: right now. A lot of people are trying to move
Speaker 4: around jobs.
Speaker 3: We're hiring a.
Speaker 4: Lot at my company. I'm doing a lot of interviews.
Speaker 4: I am like just you know, stockpiling tips on resume
Speaker 4: writing and cover letters and interview process and whatever. But
Speaker 4: if you're out there and you're in the interview process,
Speaker 4: here's here's a lesson in what not to do. Okay,
Speaker 4: So we had an open position here, had a lovely
Speaker 4: person apply for this job, and after a couple of
Speaker 4: rounds of interviews and then taking a we give certain
Speaker 4: positions a test to see if they're qualified. First test
Speaker 4: was like okay, and then we decided to do a
Speaker 4: second test because I was a little bit on the fence,
Speaker 4: and based on that second test and then feedback from
Speaker 4: a couple of other people who'd be working with, this person,
Speaker 4: decided decided not to move forward with the applicant and
Speaker 4: instead of you know, we have a recruiter on our
Speaker 4: team who's you know, helping us communicate with our applicant
Speaker 4: because there's so many different candidates out there, and sent
Speaker 4: this person a letter, just you know, an email just
Speaker 4: saying you know, we're not you know, we're not going
Speaker 4: to move forward with your application or.
Speaker 3: Something like that.
Speaker 4: And I didn't think anything about it until like a
Speaker 4: week later, that same recruiter we were talking about like
Speaker 4: the status update, and she was like, just so you
Speaker 4: guys know, we got a really terrible Glassdoor interview review,
Speaker 4: which I didn't even know you could review the interview
Speaker 4: process on Glassdoor. But our company, this this person turned
Speaker 4: around after not getting a job, was so upset about it,
Speaker 4: and I guess like the sense of entitlement was so
Speaker 4: strong that they decided to go to Glassdoor and write
Speaker 4: a whole like takedown of the interview process and how
Speaker 4: unprofessional we were and during the interview process. And here's
Speaker 4: what kills me. It's not just about, you know, don't
Speaker 4: be a jerk. You know, who writes a you know,
Speaker 4: a petty review if you don't get a job. But
Speaker 4: it was it was about this person wasn't terrible, Like,
Speaker 4: it wasn't in the fact that they didn't have potential
Speaker 4: that we didn't you know, extend an offer to them.
Speaker 4: It was there are a lot of other candidates in
Speaker 4: the mix, and they were just had more experience or
Speaker 4: they had they were more seasoned than you were. And
Speaker 4: I legit told the recruiter when I told her to
Speaker 4: you know, let the candidate off easy, to tell her
Speaker 4: that I'm happy to mentor her and help her improve on,
Speaker 4: you know, certain areas. Because I felt this, and I
Speaker 4: get really like, I you know, this person, I felt
Speaker 4: like I identify with them. They're young, they're earlier in
Speaker 4: their career, but they have a lot of potential whatever.
Speaker 4: But she went and did this, and I'm like, now
Speaker 4: you have instead of taking that email from the recruiter
Speaker 4: which says, you know, Mandy's happy to talk to you
Speaker 4: and emailing me, you know, to ask, you know, hey,
Speaker 4: I'd love more information on why this did it work
Speaker 4: out or whatever where I can improve to go and
Speaker 4: do this like yelp takedown basically of the interview process,
Speaker 4: like I'm never going to refer you for a job
Speaker 4: like this is a very small world, you know, the
Speaker 4: world that I operate in, and it just shocked me
Speaker 4: that someone would choose to burn a bridge like that
Speaker 4: and so immaturely. And so if you guys are out
Speaker 4: there and you're interviewing, just just listen. Like we read
Speaker 4: the glass door reviews and it's not super hard to
Speaker 4: tell who it is who's written them based on what
Speaker 4: you put in there. And just because you get turned
Speaker 4: down for a job, you know, doesn't mean there there's
Speaker 4: not an opportunity to make a connection like leave like
Speaker 4: at least leave a good like. We have jobs open
Speaker 4: all the time. And the first thing I did when
Speaker 4: we had these eight opens eight openings come to be
Speaker 4: as I went back to the last you know, crop
Speaker 4: of resumes and interviews to say, who did I like
Speaker 4: from the last batch, is anyone still available? You know, well,
Speaker 4: we may come around to you in the next round.
Speaker 4: Like you want to keep that door open.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So with my sister, she has since moved from
Speaker 2: Jersey to Chicago years ago, but she was like, literally
Speaker 2: there are people that she sees from Jersey, like at
Speaker 2: the jobs and job interviews in Chicago and in her field.
Speaker 2: And so that was just really a really foolish move
Speaker 2: and immature because you just don't know when you're going
Speaker 2: to see people again. And yeah, it's just burning your
Speaker 2: bridges is never a good thing if you can help it.
Speaker 2: And yeah, that was just foolish because now if you
Speaker 2: were to see her, you know, ten years from now,
Speaker 2: you might be like, ooh, I don't know, she's that one.
Speaker 1: Seems like a troublemaker, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or just just immature and not willing to have
Speaker 4: a teaching moment or learn where you can improve, or
Speaker 4: just like the sense of entitlement.
Speaker 3: Like I thought it went really well.
Speaker 4: The hiring manager had positive feedback, but I still didn't
Speaker 4: get that, you know, and just to criticize, I don't know,
Speaker 4: just to take it so personally like that. And I
Speaker 4: wish her all the best, but I you know, my
Speaker 4: first job I got in New York City, it was
Speaker 4: exactly that.
Speaker 1: It was I got.
Speaker 4: I had an internship, and then I got a job
Speaker 4: from someone who remembered me from that internship, you know,
Speaker 4: two years later, and then the next job after that,
Speaker 4: guess what the editorial assistant, which is like the bottom,
Speaker 4: the lowest rung on the totem pole in publishing. She
Speaker 4: was now an editor and she remembered me like five
Speaker 4: years later for a job, and she reached out to me,
Speaker 4: and at the time she was like really low, but
Speaker 4: then she became an editor and that you know, she
Speaker 4: brought me up. So I learn firsthand the value of you.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to say I'm perfect. Oh there's bridges
Speaker 4: I have burned, and I regret for sure, but this
Speaker 4: just struck me. And and I'm just as a warning.
Speaker 4: You know, glass stores out there, people are using it,
Speaker 4: and just be careful. You know how you choose to
Speaker 4: use glass door because people watch and we read and
Speaker 4: we talk, and it can you can end up hurting
Speaker 4: yourself down the line. It makes you in ways you
Speaker 4: may not understand just now in the heat of that emotion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and like you said, don't be
Speaker 2: Nikki and Cardi if you can help it, basically, right,
Speaker 2: that's the lesson in all this just.
Speaker 3: Be Queen Latifa.
Speaker 2: So mine, I'm gonna do a small little boost and
Speaker 2: then like a small little break in a bigger boost.
Speaker 2: So my computer I've got, like I guess Google Chrome,
Speaker 2: like that's the that's the browser I use.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if anybody else is using Chrome.
Speaker 2: But for some reason, like the Facebook is setting like
Speaker 2: the pop up notifications, I can't turn them off. I
Speaker 2: tried everything, I've googled, everything I've written Facebook, I don't
Speaker 2: know what happened. And I'm getting I don't want to
Speaker 2: see Mandy like your picture, someone to send you a
Speaker 2: message like it just keeps popping up.
Speaker 4: Wait a second, are you that old lady who's using
Speaker 4: the podcast for tech support?
Speaker 2: And so when I tell you, like yo, it's popping
Speaker 2: up every two seconds and I can weep.
Speaker 1: And I tried every day. So yeah, that's just my
Speaker 1: little break, you know.
Speaker 2: I've come to grips with it that just when I
Speaker 2: see it, I'm just like my left eye twitches.
Speaker 3: Low key notifications.
Speaker 4: I mean, so that's so distracting you if you're at
Speaker 4: work or trying to get stuff done, like all the
Speaker 4: pings and the pop ups and the bouncing icons and
Speaker 4: stuff like, I try to shut that all down.
Speaker 1: It's so and I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna have to find that, you know, some
Speaker 2: young millennial Techi window.
Speaker 1: I'm getting a new computer. That's it. So that's my
Speaker 1: little break.
Speaker 2: And those Dagon and it just came out of nowhere,
Speaker 2: those Dagon notifications.
Speaker 1: Anyway, my booth. Maybe have you been watching Red Table
Speaker 1: Talks with Jada Pickett and her mom and her daughter.
Speaker 3: I have. I watched.
Speaker 4: I was just listening to the one with Will Smith
Speaker 4: that came out like last week. Is that what you're
Speaker 4: gonna talk about?
Speaker 1: Yes? Oh my gosh, right right, So the second one
Speaker 1: just came out.
Speaker 2: I haven't watched the second one yet, but I think
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have Superman watched the first and second one with.
Speaker 1: Me, but I haven't. I mean, it is so like
Speaker 1: the first one was so good.
Speaker 2: It's just I just love this the transparency that they're showing,
Speaker 2: you know that, like everything's not perfect, and how hard
Speaker 2: they have to work on their marriage, and like the fact,
Speaker 2: like if you listen, there's so many jewels dropped, Like
Speaker 2: the fact they went to communication classes, the fact that
Speaker 2: they set a standard in the beginning, like honestly, Superman
Speaker 2: and I did that because I was like, I don't
Speaker 2: I don't want to grow up in that, or I
Speaker 2: don't want to, you know, yell and cuss and fuss
Speaker 2: at each other. So we like made that a rule. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: I don't know one who breaks it because you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm trying to be better. He's the
Speaker 2: I thought that he was gonna be like the yeller,
Speaker 2: but I'm the one he's like, why why is your
Speaker 2: voice raising?
Speaker 1: My way is not raising?
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: He's a way better communicator, mean.
Speaker 2: And while I had all of these rules about how
Speaker 2: we got to communicate with respect, and I'm the one
Speaker 2: who I'm like, timpany look at yourself in the mirror,
Speaker 2: look at yourself. So no, but I just thought it
Speaker 2: was really beautiful. So I can't wait to watch the
Speaker 2: second one.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: Like even like the story of how they met was
Speaker 2: pretty amazing and how Will was just really clear that
Speaker 2: he wanted to get married and he wanted to have
Speaker 2: a family, and I was talking to like, so Superman.
Speaker 2: This weekend was that we were at my parents' house
Speaker 2: and what started off as like, oh, can you help
Speaker 2: me do this one favorite the basement became like almost
Speaker 2: a remodel. Have we've been there every We've been there
Speaker 2: at their house more than our house. And so he
Speaker 2: was just redoing like the plumbing in their in their
Speaker 2: master back because there was like a little bit of
Speaker 2: a leak. My mom wanted a new fixtion because one
Speaker 2: of the little like the hot handle on the sink
Speaker 2: wasn't turning. I mean just everything toilet was running. I mean,
Speaker 2: my mom has gotten her her money's worth, child, and
Speaker 2: so and even when I brought Supergirl, like we brought
Speaker 2: Supergirl on Saturday, she gave her a Supergirl because meanwhile,
Speaker 2: Supergirl is because she's the only child, and like, she's
Speaker 2: got three adults in her life that like, so she
Speaker 2: doesn't she's not used to like doing as much stuff
Speaker 2: as she ought to, quite honestly, because I was always
Speaker 2: getting on them about she needs to were yours. But
Speaker 2: as soon as she walked to my mother's house, my
Speaker 2: mother was like, here's a rag. I'm gonna need you
Speaker 2: to write down. She looks so shocked, like, wait, I
Speaker 2: don't I don't understand. I'm like, that's called a rag
Speaker 2: and we're cleaning. But then my mom ended up giving
Speaker 2: her like a little bit of money just to be
Speaker 2: like she's I want her to come back. I'm like,
Speaker 2: tell clean, mommy. But it was just really like awesome.
Speaker 2: And I see all that to say that. Somebody hit
Speaker 2: me behind the scenes and said, dang girl, because I
Speaker 2: think I like he fixed their sink, and I was
Speaker 2: I put it on ig Stories and he was entering
Speaker 2: to the door song he did it, We did it,
Speaker 2: We did it, Lauren Semos and she was like, danger, hey,
Speaker 2: you get do all that.
Speaker 1: I can't even get a text back.
Speaker 2: And I just thought, like I don't get him to
Speaker 2: do all of that, that there are men out there
Speaker 2: who are already in that space.
Speaker 1: And I think that that's what I like about Red
Speaker 1: Table Talks is.
Speaker 2: That it shows that you know, sometimes it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: you have to be open to the fact that sometimes
Speaker 2: the person that you're wanting, that you're looking for might
Speaker 2: not look exactly like what the picture you have in
Speaker 2: your mind, and so you want to be really clear
Speaker 2: about what you desire in a person. I knew I
Speaker 2: wanted somebody who was intrinsically kind. I like literally wrote
Speaker 2: these things down I wanted somebody who was generous, you know,
Speaker 2: I wanted somebody who was considerate. And like I told myself,
Speaker 2: if he is a five foot five Asian man, Okay,
Speaker 2: not to have anything wrong with Asian man, but I'm
Speaker 2: not naturally attracted to Asia man.
Speaker 1: But I told myself I was going to be open
Speaker 1: to that much.
Speaker 2: The whoever I love might not look like, you know,
Speaker 2: like like what I had in my mind, but would
Speaker 2: feel like what I needed in my life. And you know,
Speaker 2: Superman happens to be chocolate. So I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: thank you Jesus. But you know, if he was it,
Speaker 2: but he had all of those characteristics, you know, I
Speaker 2: likely would still love him.
Speaker 1: Not likely I would.
Speaker 2: And so I mean, red Table Talks just shows you
Speaker 2: that there are men out there who are already predisposed
Speaker 2: to wanting more, and not everybody is playing. Not everybody
Speaker 2: is like you know, tricking out here in these streets.
Speaker 2: And so ladies, there's hope. I mean, not that Superman
Speaker 2: is perfect, because he's not. But like I fell on
Speaker 2: the toilet the other day. I was like, sir, you
Speaker 2: know when you leave the toilet set up, I was like,
Speaker 2: it was like the first time that happened. I'm realized.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that you know that hasn't happened more. But like,
Speaker 2: you know, middles of the night you go to the bathroom.
Speaker 2: I literally was like, I'm sitting, I'm sitting in town.
Speaker 4: I would have woken him up by pouring a bucket
Speaker 4: of toilet water on his face.
Speaker 2: Now, I was so because now I'm like, now I've
Speaker 2: got to wash because what am I gonna go to
Speaker 2: bed with the WebBook?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: I gotta take a full shower at one am. That's
Speaker 1: what we're doing. So other than that, though, he's great. No,
Speaker 1: but so yeah, Red Table Talks that is my brown boost.
Speaker 2: If you watch it, tweet us at it's the BA
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so tell me like your favorite parts.
Speaker 2: And I haven't watched part two, but you can tweet
Speaker 2: the those two because I'm sure i'll watch it by
Speaker 2: the time the years it's on Facebook.
Speaker 5: Yeah cool, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Exactly, Okay, any any other questions.
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Speaker 3: You know what, where can you go? You really good?
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: I was so happy with myself and then then just
Speaker 2: like quickly, I don't know, my memory is really terrible,
Speaker 2: Like I'll have it, and then what will happen is
Speaker 2: I will I'll get nervous about it, and then I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know it?
Speaker 3: You know what? What's our website?
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Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 2: Girl, I'm still shaky sometimes too, But anyone, what's the
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Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 4: I found the question like five minutes ago.
Speaker 3: Thank you for the cover.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we have a really we have a we have
Speaker 4: a good question speaking of Christ for help. So this
Speaker 4: comes from anonymous, Oh clever a dot anonymous. So this listener,
Speaker 4: I think this is this is a good question. I
Speaker 4: think everyone can relate to this, she said. He Mandy
Speaker 4: and Tiffany. I'm absolutely ashamed to be asking this, but
Speaker 4: after listening to your podcast for so long, I feel
Speaker 4: like this is a safe space it is to ask this.
Speaker 4: Anonymous question that I'm sure many of your readers can
Speaker 4: relate to. What advice can you give to those of
Speaker 4: us who have a long time, who have a long
Speaker 4: time to go before achieving our financial and personal goals,
Speaker 4: Like I'm talking years to get out of debt, build savings,
Speaker 4: et cetera. Meanwhile, I feel like everyone is glowing up,
Speaker 4: buying houses, getting married and so on. It makes me
Speaker 4: so disgusted that I give up hope and just keep digging,
Speaker 4: going deeper into debt. I think it would be helpful
Speaker 4: to know how you ladies coped when you were in
Speaker 4: your struggle phases. Sincerely, Anonymous.
Speaker 2: Hey, I mean, well, I remember when Facebook kind of
Speaker 2: like when I got on Facebook for the first time
Speaker 2: and I was like, everyone's.
Speaker 1: Taking vacations every week.
Speaker 2: I just remember being so shocked at like how much
Speaker 2: the people that like I knew, not like the people
Speaker 2: I knew closely, but like you know, like folks from
Speaker 2: college or high school that I don't necessarily talk to anymore,
Speaker 2: but watching everyone go on vacation and buy nice clothes,
Speaker 2: And I remember being like, but I'm broke.
Speaker 1: How what am I doing wrong?
Speaker 2: I mean now that like I'm I'm more into it
Speaker 2: I realized a lot of people were doing that off
Speaker 2: of credit cards, and so they didn't have what you
Speaker 2: thought they had. But honestly, here's the thing. And I
Speaker 2: had to tell this to my friend the other day
Speaker 2: because he was struggling with like, you know, he's like,
Speaker 2: I've got a very active social life and I want
Speaker 2: to still go to the club and vacations with my
Speaker 2: friends and fancy dinners and blah blah blah. And I said, friend,
Speaker 2: you can either take the big L for a short
Speaker 2: period of time that means staying home, saving budgeting, getting
Speaker 2: yourself together, another stream of income, all of that for
Speaker 2: a short period of time, like really grind during the
Speaker 2: shorter period of time, or you could take a small
Speaker 2: L the rest of your life, meaning like you're always
Speaker 2: on the cusp of struggling forever, you know, because if
Speaker 2: you don't reset, you know, and build from a strong foundation,
Speaker 2: then it's like you're always going to be just that
Speaker 2: close to being broke, just that close to like.
Speaker 1: You know, check to check.
Speaker 2: And so it just took me, honestly too, and it
Speaker 2: might take you staying off social media for why I
Speaker 2: know I did, and just I had to focus and
Speaker 2: it took me about maybe like three or four years
Speaker 2: to like get past broke, and then like another two
Speaker 2: years to get to get to a point.
Speaker 1: Where I wasn't just beyond broke.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, you're okay, and then another year
Speaker 2: to be better than okay.
Speaker 1: So it took some time.
Speaker 2: But if I had not taken that l you know,
Speaker 2: and during that period of time, I would still be
Speaker 2: semi struggling, but forever.
Speaker 1: And I didn't want to be eighty and semi struggling.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, let me just take a few
Speaker 1: years and for me to be uncomfortable in order for
Speaker 1: me to have the life that I want later. So
Speaker 1: that's my advice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think as much as you can try
Speaker 4: and well try and first of all, but at social media,
Speaker 4: I would say, take a break from social media if
Speaker 4: you feel like people are posting there, if it's people
Speaker 4: like Okay, listen, Tip and I have been talking about
Speaker 4: our break and home renovations like crazy people for you know,
Speaker 4: a year now, and it may seem like, well, geez,
Speaker 4: they just got a house out of nowhere. They're doing
Speaker 4: so well and I'm doing so so not well. You know,
Speaker 4: ask people, how did you how did you get to
Speaker 4: a place where you could afford a home? Okay, I
Speaker 4: started saving when I was twenty two years old. I
Speaker 4: was part of a company that got acquired. I made
Speaker 4: money off of that, so I'll be upfront about that.
Speaker 4: I changed jobs until I got you know, equity, and
Speaker 4: equity has been beneficial to me too my.
Speaker 3: Last two jobs.
Speaker 4: So there's steps that I took to get to a
Speaker 4: place where I could afford a house. So I feel like,
Speaker 4: instead of feeling down about it, like talk to people
Speaker 4: about the steps they took to get to where they are,
Speaker 4: even if it's like offline or whatever. You know, just
Speaker 4: like off the record to hear the story behind what
Speaker 4: seems like a super easy, you know, accomplishment that they
Speaker 4: may just like post about on social media. And be
Speaker 4: clear about your goals and what you want, because that's
Speaker 4: what could be agonizing, Like if you're not sure what
Speaker 4: you want and then you see everyone else doing something
Speaker 4: and you think, is that what I should want? I
Speaker 4: don't have that yet, you know I should want that.
Speaker 4: I want that, nah, And then you start feeling terrible
Speaker 4: about yourself, you know, around for me buying a house
Speaker 4: that I had to I had to really have come
Speaker 4: to Jesus' situation with myself. Do I really want a house?
Speaker 4: And what does that say about me? And how I
Speaker 4: how I used my money that I've worked hard to
Speaker 4: build up, you know, and I had and I and
Speaker 4: I'll tell you point blank, I've struggled with going back
Speaker 4: and forth. You know, is buying a house the right thing?
Speaker 4: Is this the right way to invest my money? I
Speaker 4: don't have it entirely figured it out. Like, talk to
Speaker 4: me in ten years and I'll tell you if it
Speaker 4: was a good idea that I, you know, bought this house.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So just all you can do, I think, is talk
Speaker 4: to people and then listen to their self doubt, you know,
Speaker 4: listen to their insecurity, listen to you know, the steps
Speaker 4: they took to accomplish those goals, to maybe learn something
Speaker 4: from them or to take art in the fact that
Speaker 4: not everyone has everything figgled figured out, and then dust
Speaker 4: your hands off and get back to work on accomplishing
Speaker 4: your goals, because, you know, steeping yourself and feelings of
Speaker 4: negativity or in scarcity or feeling like you're never going
Speaker 4: to accomplish your goals, that that definitely won't get you
Speaker 4: to your goals. You know, that's the sure fire away
Speaker 4: not to accomplish your goals, but think about the actionable
Speaker 4: things you can do to get there, and you know,
Speaker 4: if there's any drastic changes you could make to to
Speaker 4: put yourself on the track that you want to that
Speaker 4: you want to be on.
Speaker 1: And then too finding like like finding like your squad,
Speaker 1: because like having a group of peers who too, who
Speaker 1: also was kind of like in the same space, like
Speaker 1: wanting to do more, you know, still.
Speaker 2: Struggling a little bit, and so I have like a
Speaker 2: squad of people that we kind of grew up together.
Speaker 2: And it was random. Some people I met at coffee shops,
Speaker 2: some people I met at networking events, some people small
Speaker 2: business association. Just so so as I started to build
Speaker 2: like those people and it didn't mean that we all
Speaker 2: collectively hung out together, but like, you know, my friend
Speaker 2: Cabral or my friend Mark, they're not necessarily friends, but
Speaker 2: these are folks that when I was building, so were they.
Speaker 2: So it normalized the process of like I don't have it.
Speaker 2: I remember, like like maybe a couple years ago when
Speaker 2: I was really struggling and I was like, oh, Mark, man,
Speaker 2: I'm you know, I didn't I didn't you know, like
Speaker 2: I'm laid on my bills.
Speaker 1: He was like ooh, I thought I was the only one.
Speaker 2: And we both started laughing, and it normalized the process
Speaker 2: for us, like, Okay, laid on your bills happened, You
Speaker 2: didn't kill anybody, And so now marked us very well.
Speaker 1: He's got like five or six laundromats.
Speaker 2: And Charlotte, North Carolina. He had an investment property in
Speaker 2: Newark that he sold recently, and so like we laugh
Speaker 2: about those times. So finding like people in your position
Speaker 2: that are also growing and building is going to help too,
Speaker 2: because it will normalize that this part of the of
Speaker 2: the journey is is okay, and there's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 1: It's just this is part of the journey.
Speaker 4: I had to cut a friend early in my twenties
Speaker 4: who was she had money when none of us did,
Speaker 4: and we would go out and she would want to
Speaker 4: pay for everything, but then like low key, make you
Speaker 4: feel bad for not wanting to pay for everything. And
Speaker 4: it was a really toxic friendship and it was almost
Speaker 4: like we were the friends that she kept around to
Speaker 4: make herself feel better about where she.
Speaker 3: Was at financially.
Speaker 4: Okay, And as soon as I recognize that I was like, Ann,
Speaker 4: I'm done. I mean it took me like a few
Speaker 4: years of this toxic friendship, but I cut that friend out.
Speaker 4: And you know, if there's people in your life who
Speaker 4: who aren't you know, making who aren't supporting you or
Speaker 4: like being your cheerleader or your champion, you feel like
Speaker 4: you can't open up to them, just cut them, cut
Speaker 4: them out of your life.
Speaker 2: And well, cut them out of your life, said, cut them,
Speaker 2: like take that night, Cirl.
Speaker 3: I mean it might come to that, but hopefully not.
Speaker 4: No, that's awesome though, but I mean, yeah, we both,
Speaker 4: I mean we want us to go down our list
Speaker 4: of struggles.
Speaker 3: There's a long list of struggles.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we're right there with you. And thank you
Speaker 4: for listening to this podcast. And yeah, hopefully you get
Speaker 4: support beyond this show, but actually talking to people in
Speaker 4: your network or your family or your friends so that
Speaker 4: you don't feel so alone, because you're definitely not.
Speaker 1: You're definitely not. The truth is not to shade the
Speaker 1: folks who are who are posting all this soff.
Speaker 2: Honestly, more people are struggling than you know. And I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that in a judgmental way and anything else,
Speaker 2: but like just because someone is on vacation or they
Speaker 2: bought a car, or they've got you know, like dope
Speaker 2: clothes or whatever, that does not mean that they're excluded
Speaker 2: from the financial struggle. So outward expression of wealth and
Speaker 2: money has nothing to do with what people really have.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen people that are like, You're like,
Speaker 2: you have money, but you look but you look homeless.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I've seen people who look like they have money and
Speaker 2: they actually do have money. And then I've seen people
Speaker 2: who look like wealth and are totally broke. So there's
Speaker 2: no way to tell basically like what people have. And
Speaker 2: you know, so a lot of people it might be
Speaker 2: stunting for the gram, you know, their Facebook, Facebook what
Speaker 2: is this? So they have a Facebook fortune, you know,
Speaker 2: and that's not necessarily true. So just know that, like,
Speaker 2: you know, not all things are real. It's like, you know,
Speaker 2: the beautiful models on the in the magazine that yes,
Speaker 2: these women.
Speaker 1: Are beautiful, but you know they're also touched up. So
Speaker 1: everybody does a little touch upon their life for social media.
Speaker 3: Ay Man, that Mayfair filter though, that's my jam.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Mayfair. There isn't another one that I
Speaker 1: like too.
Speaker 4: Yeahs all right, Thank you anonymousphere question. And again, you
Speaker 4: guys can go to Brand Ambition podcast dot com ask
Speaker 4: us anything to send us a question, or you can
Speaker 4: hit us up at Brand Ambition Podcast at gmail dot
Speaker 4: com with your question.
Speaker 1: Yes ma'am now just said dot com.
Speaker 4: Oh I know, I said, yes ma'am.
Speaker 1: All right, those are really great questions. So what do
Speaker 1: we usually end with this? That would we end with?
Speaker 4: I think they were supposed to do the boost at
Speaker 4: the end now, but like I forgot.
Speaker 1: No, but this is awesome.
Speaker 2: I honestly just and honestly I love that the feedback
Speaker 2: that we got from the Battle of the Sex, and
Speaker 2: so many people hit me up and said do that again? Honestly,
Speaker 2: so I would love to have, like, you know, to
Speaker 2: to have We'd love to have more people on the
Speaker 2: podcast and more guys to kind of give their point
Speaker 2: of view. And this time we should really have a
Speaker 2: battle because I feel like that was everybody was so nice,
Speaker 2: and we need the gloves to come.
Speaker 3: Off, you know, they all talk like this bedroom voices.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe we should have the Huggies on.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't know who.
Speaker 1: That would be kind of fun though.
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, Superman already thinks that he's
Speaker 2: part of the podcast, so I feel like if I
Speaker 2: feel like
Speaker 1: That he might be partially open to that