WEBVTT - Coping With Financial FOMO 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:18.400 Hey, hey, hey, I want you to do a new 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:24.400 beat every time. Hey hey, hey, is that a new beat? 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:27.440 I mean, well, you know, like it's not my normal 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:31.080 like Broadway beat, like hey hey, hey. 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:33.600 You know, well you know I'm still I'm still learning. 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:34.280 I'm still learning. 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:34.920 I can dig. 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:37.280 How are you, Mandra. 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.720 I'm doing good. I'm doing really good good. 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:43.720 I'm Tiffany. I wish forget to introduce ourselves. 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:45.600 Right, I mean, I know who you are. 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:50.960 Whatever, but people might be new, they might be like, well, 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:51.760 who are these people? 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:56.880 Hey guys, I'm Mandra and. 0:00:56.720 --> 0:01:03.480 We are. 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.360 So I feel like we haven't, like, you know, what's 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:08.320 new in the zoo. I saw your ig stories, which 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:11.679 I loved of like your updates with like the house renovations. 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.360 First of all, I love the drawings. Yeah, yeah, that 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:16.800 was awesome. Honestly, I was like, oh, I can see it. 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:22.480 He's like a broke ass property brother documenting my house project. 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:22.800 Yeah. 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.479 We're really it's coming along really good. We're getting toward 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:29.560 the end. We're having Yeah, we're having some final inspections 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:33.200 and talking about furniture now, so it seems like we 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.280 will we'll definitely get in there before I mean knock 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.080 on wood before Thanksgiving is still my goal. 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:40.600 I'm so jealous. 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.399 We're definitely not going to get before Thanksgiving. We've got 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:46.240 one of our partments. We're just waiting for the other two, 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.840 and so it's just we're kind of like a little 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.760 bit halted. But one good news is that so for 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.800 the master bath, I've always wanted a separate shower, separate tub, 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.000 and looking for a tub for Superman has not been 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.400 easy because he's six it And I found one though, 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:05.040 and it's like it's beautiful but not it's big, but 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:09.359 not like obnoxiously big, and like his he actually even 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.959 though he he's got long legs, you know, obviously because 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:14.480 he's six six, but it's actually his torso and up 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:15.880 that's longer. 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.440 That makes him taller. So he's able to sit in 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:18.920 this tub. 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.120 And he's like, I'm like really picturing him in the 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:22.320 tub and I feel uncomfortable. 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.000 Yeah, And like we went to this tub place. 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:26.800 I don't know, have you everard, you know, like lately 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:28.840 we've been going to a lot of kind of like 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:33.840 off market like bath places, or not even just bath places, 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:34.919 but furniture places, like. 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.320 Those places on the highway that you always drive by 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.560 but like you never really go in until you need 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:39.960 a tub. 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:41.200 Yeah. 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.160 So we went to this place and I really liked 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:44.800 it and I was like, okay, sitting it and his 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:46.520 legs stretched all the way out. I was like, I 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:48.959 think this is the tub. So there's that piece of 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:51.200 good news because I didn't know, you know, because I'm 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.000 he's more of a bath person honestly than I am. 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.560 Like I'm more of a shower and then occasional bath, 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:57.720 but he'll, you know, I feel like he'd take a 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.359 bath every day if he could. But our baths now 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.359 is like traditional size, which is like, you know, too small. 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:06.680 So yeah for that, I mean, we were moving really 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.120 quickly and now like grinding to a halt because we're waiting. 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.560 But I mean I feel I feel like a January 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:15.000 move in is likely, which I'm nervous about because of 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:16.880 Jersey weather, but you know, it is what it is. 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.040 Yeah, yeah, all about stress management. 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:22.320 What else is going on? 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:26.000 So I officially declared next Tuesday work from home Tuesday 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.600 for the people that report to me, because I want 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.799 everyone to have ample time and flexibility to get. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:32.280 Out and vote. 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.359 Yes, please Jesus. 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.119 Get out and vote. Get out there. 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:38.680 Yeah. 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.400 It just feels like, if you you know midterm elections, 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.880 it feels like this has more hype than even even 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.960 the presidential election day, which is kind of sad to me. 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:50.520 But the stakes are huge. The stakes are so huge. 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.160 I mean, this is going to determine control of the 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.440 two chambers of Congress. I mean, this is this has 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:01.320 massive implications. And if you're upset, if you're feeling like, 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.720 you know, the government is not working for you, the 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:06.000 only thing you can do is vote. 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:10.000 Exactly. No, I agree, you just like, is this real life? 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.080 I'm wonder, Like I wonder one day when I'm like 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:16.040 a grandma, like what my kids or my grandkids will 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:17.760 say about this time, Like is it true. 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:22.720 Grandma that you add an idiot named I'm like, oh lord, girl, 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.640 I'll talk about those tabs. We call those the doc ages. 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:29.320 Listen, the Holocaust happened, Slavery happened. We are capable of 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:33.240 great terribleness, Like, yes we are. All you know, all 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:34.480 we can do is vote, I am. 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:36.440 I'll tell you one. One. 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.320 One thing that is giving me so much hope right 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.800 now is so my mom. I've talked about her on 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:46.240 the show before. She is the She's the woman that. 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:48.200 I think a lot of people are talking about white 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:53.800 Midwestern women who voted for Trump, and you know, like, 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:55.400 how are they going to vote this time? How is 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.960 the perception of Trump changed? And like, I don't know, 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:01.200 I've I've talked about before how delicate it's been talking 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:06.240 to my mom about politics. I mean, we had like terrible, 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:10.040 like earth shattering fights the year after the election, and 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:12.840 then we just decided we cannot have a relationship if 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:14.960 we just talk about politics. So we just stopped altogether. 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.680 And it's like walking on eggshells with her. You know, 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.160 I try not to mention anything. It's been difficult, but Okay. 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:22.840 I was on the phone with her like a week 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.680 or two ago and she got quiet, and we were 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:27.320 talking about what I was gonna do for the weekend, 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:29.240 and she was like, you know, I think I'm gonna 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.839 go check out The Hate You Give? And I said, what, 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.240 I haven't even read that book, to be honest, And 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.080 I was like, you're gonna go see the Hate You Give? Okay, 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:39.840 this is and if you guys don't know, that's a 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:45.480 movie about a young black teenager in I don't know 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.279 where it takes place. It was shot in Atlanta, the 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.760 film itself, but anyway, young black teenager gets pulled away 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.320 the cops and gets shot, and it's just about the 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.840 repercussions of that incident. Anyway, my mom was like, yeah, 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:56.400 I'm gonna. 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.000 Go see it. I love the book. I really enjoyed it. 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:01.599 I was like, Okay. Next thing she said was, you know, 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.000 I watched the debate she lives in. She lives in 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:08.960 Missouri right really really highly contested race per Senate in 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:12.480 Missouri right now, where the Democratic incumbent is really in 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:14.479 danger of losing her seat. And there's a you know, 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:19.080 a Trump uh kind of Trump flag waving Republican is 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:22.480 in is her uh is her opponent. And my mom 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.480 said she had watched the debate and then she was like, 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:26.880 I don't really like that that what's his face? I 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.599 forget his name now, I don't really like that that Republican, 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.240 you know, but I you know, uh. And she started 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.919 talking me, saying some positive things about the Democrat candidate, 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.559 and I was like, Okay, hold your breath, don't screw 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:41.880 this up. Don't screw this up, Mandy, shut don't. And 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:46.880 then she said, you know, Mandy, I feel like this 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:48.520 year is going to be a big year for me. 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:52.320 I feel like I am more aware of what's going 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:56.040 on and I might be making some changes dot dot dot, 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:58.039 and I just said nothing. I literally held my breath 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.000 and I was like, but inside I'm dancing because I'm 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:06.720 like something is shifting, Like she's I feel like if 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:10.000 she's been able to sort of change the way that 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.600 she's voting or at least thinking about politics in a 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:16.200 different way, that gives me so much heart and so 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:18.920 much hope that maybe we will see some real change 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:20.280 with the selection coming up. 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:22.520 You know, I just think so much has happened where 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.760 you just can't ignore it. And I love that that 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.240 because not everyone's open. That's like like because you know 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.960 my dad and it's like traditional, like you know, older, 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.280 like you know, especially when when people get older, if 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:36.119 they grew up Christian, they tend to be like hyper 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:40.040 Christian during that time. And so he was like very 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.720 much like, you know, I think, you know, homosexuality is bad. 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.080 When Allen came out, he was like no, no, no, 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:50.040 turn off the TV. You know. But then he was like, so, 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.360 my dad's really big and watching political channels. It was 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:57.000 like I love, like, so he loves Rachel Maddow like, oh, 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.520 when I say loves yo, I was like, looking, I 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.160 remember he was Tiffy, have you watched Rachel? 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:01.320 Oh? 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.800 I just love Rachel. Oh my god. And I was 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:04.360 looking at myself. 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.600 I thought to myself, do you know, Daddy like Rachel, 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:09.640 she's as gay as they come. 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:10.480 I didn't sound him. 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.360 That, but I was like, mm hmm, you love Rachel, 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:15.280 don't do you. I don't think he knew at first. 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.480 And then I don't know if she came out on 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.320 TV or or if it came out. And then he 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:23.400 was like, Tiffany, did you did you know that Rachel 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:23.760 was gay? 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:24.960 I was like, she is? 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.400 And I could see he was grappling with it, like 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.320 I love Rachel Rachel. 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.880 And so he kind of left it there and still 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:33.480 was watching. 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.680 And so and then one day, like maybe last year, 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.920 my dad was talking casual, talking casually. He was saying 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.360 something something yeah, Rachel. She was saying that her and 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:46.640 her partner that she I couldn't believe it. I was like, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:47.920 did my father say partner? 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:49.520 Oh? 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.679 And he was just you thinking like her and her 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:53.560 partner that they should be able to And I agree, 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:54.040 I think that. 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.319 And I was just like, look, at the world changing. 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:00.040 You've changed a little ebo man from somebody who just 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.280 was like, has this singular focus about this is what 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.480 I don't get homosexuality. So it's it's wrong and it's 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:07.680 terrible and this, this and that. 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.560 But then someone that you respect so much and that 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.560 you think is so awesome happens to be the very 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:15.600 thing that you're like must be so terrible and wrong, 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.679 and it calls him to question what you believe. Man, 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.439 Not that I think that he's like, you know, I mean, 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.680 I'm sure he still has his you know, obviously believes 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:27.320 about you know, Christianity, but he is realizing that it's 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.040 not as black and white as as people would make it, 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:31.800 you know. And I just love the fact that, like, 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.200 you know, that if he as old as he is 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.640 in his seventies can make the switch. I think, like 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:38.959 anyone can kind of make the switch. 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:40.600 So I love that, Tiff. 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:41.840 I have to tell you, so you know how we 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:45.120 talk about my Jamal. Yeah, I have another name. I 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:50.280 found out another guy listens and his name is Ian. Okay, hey, Ian, 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.280 he works with me. And I found out he listened 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.000 to our podcast and I did I died. He doesn't 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:56.600 know what Ian, I know if you're listening. 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:57.360 I really died. 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.760 He's like, we were on a we were talking about 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:01.480 something at work, and he was like, so I heard 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.080 on that Paychecks and Balances crossover episode. Man, me and 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.600 my wife are going through something similar, you know where 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.720 I'm thinking about, uh, you know, covering some whatever. I'm 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.960 not putting his business out there, but he quoted something 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.720 from the show and I was like, Ian, shut his face. 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:20.200 Ya. Isn't it crazy? Like whenever people like, you know, 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:22.360 like actually listen. 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.920 I mean it's even when women, I'm like, really, i 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:26.880 just always feel like I'm talking to you. I'm like hey, Mandy, 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.000 and I'm like, wait what, especially when people now because 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:31.600 they know I'm not a hugger, so they love hugging 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:33.360 me and they give me two one for me, one 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.480 for you. And so when people like just come up 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:38.440 to me and they're like, oh my god, I love the. 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.280 Podcast coming in and said, Hi, how's the house going, 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.199 and blah blah blah, and I'm like, wow, y'all, really. 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.679 You know, give her two hugs from me y too, 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.840 and squeeze really hard and linger. 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:55.280 Don't do that, because I was definitely gonna be like 0:10:55.320 --> 0:11:00.360 you know what, Oh my goodness, h. 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.360 Oh, anything else from you, mandra. 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.000 Let's move it on to boost and break? How about that? 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:21.880 I think that. 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:23.680 I think I got a good one. 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:27.360 Okay, what are you gonna do? Are you gonna boost? Break? 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.760 Are you gonna boost? Are you gonna break? Are you 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:34.800 gonna booz booz? Are you gonna break? That was a 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:36.559 little improblem you welcome. 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.720 That was impressive. They're not always impressive, but that was 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:43.920 pretty good. Pretty good. I want to do a break 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:44.439 real quick. 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.360 I want to do a break for just I'm just 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:50.560 speaking to people out there who are maybe early in 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:54.319 their careers or you know, it's a hot job market 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:55.960 right now. A lot of people are trying to move 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:56.640 around jobs. 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:57.400 We're hiring a. 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.439 Lot at my company. I'm doing a lot of interviews. 0:11:59.880 --> 0:12:04.040 I am like just you know, stockpiling tips on resume 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.600 writing and cover letters and interview process and whatever. But 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.040 if you're out there and you're in the interview process, 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.040 here's here's a lesson in what not to do. Okay, 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.800 So we had an open position here, had a lovely 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:18.679 person apply for this job, and after a couple of 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:21.600 rounds of interviews and then taking a we give certain 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.280 positions a test to see if they're qualified. First test 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.959 was like okay, and then we decided to do a 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:30.960 second test because I was a little bit on the fence, 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.680 and based on that second test and then feedback from 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.240 a couple of other people who'd be working with, this person, 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:41.280 decided decided not to move forward with the applicant and 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:43.800 instead of you know, we have a recruiter on our 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:48.199 team who's you know, helping us communicate with our applicant 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.199 because there's so many different candidates out there, and sent 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.800 this person a letter, just you know, an email just 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.120 saying you know, we're not you know, we're not going 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:56.800 to move forward with your application or. 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:57.400 Something like that. 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:00.920 And I didn't think anything about it until like a 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.640 week later, that same recruiter we were talking about like 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:05.280 the status update, and she was like, just so you 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:09.440 guys know, we got a really terrible Glassdoor interview review, 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.560 which I didn't even know you could review the interview 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.920 process on Glassdoor. But our company, this this person turned 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.880 around after not getting a job, was so upset about it, 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:19.880 and I guess like the sense of entitlement was so 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.880 strong that they decided to go to Glassdoor and write 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.720 a whole like takedown of the interview process and how 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.880 unprofessional we were and during the interview process. And here's 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.480 what kills me. It's not just about, you know, don't 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.080 be a jerk. You know, who writes a you know, 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.280 a petty review if you don't get a job. But 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.560 it was it was about this person wasn't terrible, Like, 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.160 it wasn't in the fact that they didn't have potential 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.199 that we didn't you know, extend an offer to them. 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:47.160 It was there are a lot of other candidates in 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:49.800 the mix, and they were just had more experience or 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:53.120 they had they were more seasoned than you were. And 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.600 I legit told the recruiter when I told her to 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.800 you know, let the candidate off easy, to tell her 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:03.040 that I'm happy to mentor her and help her improve on, 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.320 you know, certain areas. Because I felt this, and I 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.679 get really like, I you know, this person, I felt 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:10.880 like I identify with them. They're young, they're earlier in 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:12.800 their career, but they have a lot of potential whatever. 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.320 But she went and did this, and I'm like, now 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.640 you have instead of taking that email from the recruiter 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:21.720 which says, you know, Mandy's happy to talk to you 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.920 and emailing me, you know, to ask, you know, hey, 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.160 I'd love more information on why this did it work 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.600 out or whatever where I can improve to go and 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:34.120 do this like yelp takedown basically of the interview process, 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.720 like I'm never going to refer you for a job 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:39.520 like this is a very small world, you know, the 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.600 world that I operate in, and it just shocked me 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.640 that someone would choose to burn a bridge like that 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:48.360 and so immaturely. And so if you guys are out 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.080 there and you're interviewing, just just listen. Like we read 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.920 the glass door reviews and it's not super hard to 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.240 tell who it is who's written them based on what 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.480 you put in there. And just because you get turned 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:02.640 down for a job, you know, doesn't mean there there's 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.680 not an opportunity to make a connection like leave like 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:09.000 at least leave a good like. We have jobs open 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.040 all the time. And the first thing I did when 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.640 we had these eight opens eight openings come to be 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.000 as I went back to the last you know, crop 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.000 of resumes and interviews to say, who did I like 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:21.560 from the last batch, is anyone still available? You know, well, 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.160 we may come around to you in the next round. 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:25.880 Like you want to keep that door open. 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:30.240 Yeah, So with my sister, she has since moved from 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:34.200 Jersey to Chicago years ago, but she was like, literally 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:38.320 there are people that she sees from Jersey, like at 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.960 the jobs and job interviews in Chicago and in her field. 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:46.680 And so that was just really a really foolish move 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.840 and immature because you just don't know when you're going 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:54.720 to see people again. And yeah, it's just burning your 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:56.760 bridges is never a good thing if you can help it. 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.360 And yeah, that was just foolish because now if you 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.800 were to see her, you know, ten years from now, 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.200 you might be like, ooh, I don't know, she's that one. 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:07.640 Seems like a troublemaker, you know. 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:11.200 Yeah, or just just immature and not willing to have 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.120 a teaching moment or learn where you can improve, or 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:15.480 just like the sense of entitlement. 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:17.160 Like I thought it went really well. 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.520 The hiring manager had positive feedback, but I still didn't 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.520 get that, you know, and just to criticize, I don't know, 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.560 just to take it so personally like that. And I 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.160 wish her all the best, but I you know, my 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.640 first job I got in New York City, it was 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:32.440 exactly that. 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:33.200 It was I got. 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.640 I had an internship, and then I got a job 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.240 from someone who remembered me from that internship, you know, 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.360 two years later, and then the next job after that, 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.200 guess what the editorial assistant, which is like the bottom, 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:49.560 the lowest rung on the totem pole in publishing. She 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.320 was now an editor and she remembered me like five 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.040 years later for a job, and she reached out to me, 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:56.640 and at the time she was like really low, but 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:58.120 then she became an editor and that you know, she 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:02.360 brought me up. So I learn firsthand the value of you. 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.200 I'm not going to say I'm perfect. Oh there's bridges 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.760 I have burned, and I regret for sure, but this 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.000 just struck me. And and I'm just as a warning. 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.640 You know, glass stores out there, people are using it, 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.080 and just be careful. You know how you choose to 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.879 use glass door because people watch and we read and 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.880 we talk, and it can you can end up hurting 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:22.600 yourself down the line. It makes you in ways you 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:26.040 may not understand just now in the heat of that emotion. 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.159 Yeah, yeah, I mean, and like you said, don't be 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:32.760 Nikki and Cardi if you can help it, basically, right, 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:34.040 that's the lesson in all this just. 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:35.479 Be Queen Latifa. 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:40.080 So mine, I'm gonna do a small little boost and 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:43.840 then like a small little break in a bigger boost. 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:50.359 So my computer I've got, like I guess Google Chrome, 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:51.959 like that's the that's the browser I use. 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.199 And I don't know if anybody else is using Chrome. 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:58.080 But for some reason, like the Facebook is setting like 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.560 the pop up notifications, I can't turn them off. I 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.920 tried everything, I've googled, everything I've written Facebook, I don't 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.000 know what happened. And I'm getting I don't want to 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.040 see Mandy like your picture, someone to send you a 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:10.600 message like it just keeps popping up. 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.880 Wait a second, are you that old lady who's using 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:15.760 the podcast for tech support? 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:19.560 And so when I tell you, like yo, it's popping 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:21.600 up every two seconds and I can weep. 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:25.199 And I tried every day. So yeah, that's just my 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:26.520 little break, you know. 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:28.280 I've come to grips with it that just when I 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.520 see it, I'm just like my left eye twitches. 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:32.320 Low key notifications. 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:34.760 I mean, so that's so distracting you if you're at 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:36.960 work or trying to get stuff done, like all the 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:40.119 pings and the pop ups and the bouncing icons and 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:42.280 stuff like, I try to shut that all down. 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:44.520 It's so and I don't know what to do. 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:46.639