1 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, I want you to do a new 2 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: beat every time. Hey hey, hey, is that a new beat? 3 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: I mean, well, you know, like it's not my normal 4 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: like Broadway beat, like hey hey, hey. 5 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: You know, well you know I'm still I'm still learning. 6 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm still learning. 7 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 3: I can dig. 8 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: How are you, Mandra. 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: I'm doing good. I'm doing really good good. 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: I'm Tiffany. I wish forget to introduce ourselves. 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, I know who you are. 12 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: Whatever, but people might be new, they might be like, well, 13 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: who are these people? 14 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: Hey guys, I'm Mandra and. 15 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: We are. 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: So I feel like we haven't, like, you know, what's 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 2: new in the zoo. I saw your ig stories, which 18 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: I loved of like your updates with like the house renovations. 19 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: First of all, I love the drawings. Yeah, yeah, that 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: was awesome. Honestly, I was like, oh, I can see it. 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 4: He's like a broke ass property brother documenting my house project. 22 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 23 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 4: We're really it's coming along really good. We're getting toward 24 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 4: the end. We're having Yeah, we're having some final inspections 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 4: and talking about furniture now, so it seems like we 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 4: will we'll definitely get in there before I mean knock 27 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 4: on wood before Thanksgiving is still my goal. 28 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm so jealous. 29 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: We're definitely not going to get before Thanksgiving. We've got 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: one of our partments. We're just waiting for the other two, 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: and so it's just we're kind of like a little 32 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: bit halted. But one good news is that so for 33 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: the master bath, I've always wanted a separate shower, separate tub, 34 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: and looking for a tub for Superman has not been 35 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: easy because he's six it And I found one though, 36 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: and it's like it's beautiful but not it's big, but 37 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 2: not like obnoxiously big, and like his he actually even 38 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 2: though he he's got long legs, you know, obviously because 39 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: he's six six, but it's actually his torso and up 40 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: that's longer. 41 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: That makes him taller. So he's able to sit in 42 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: this tub. 43 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 4: And he's like, I'm like really picturing him in the 44 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 4: tub and I feel uncomfortable. 45 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And like we went to this tub place. 46 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, have you everard, you know, like lately 47 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: we've been going to a lot of kind of like 48 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: off market like bath places, or not even just bath places, 49 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: but furniture places, like. 50 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 4: Those places on the highway that you always drive by 51 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 4: but like you never really go in until you need 52 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 4: a tub. 53 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 54 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: So we went to this place and I really liked 55 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: it and I was like, okay, sitting it and his 56 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: legs stretched all the way out. I was like, I 57 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 2: think this is the tub. So there's that piece of 58 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: good news because I didn't know, you know, because I'm 59 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: he's more of a bath person honestly than I am. 60 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: Like I'm more of a shower and then occasional bath, 61 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: but he'll, you know, I feel like he'd take a 62 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 2: bath every day if he could. But our baths now 63 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 2: is like traditional size, which is like, you know, too small. 64 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: So yeah for that, I mean, we were moving really 65 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: quickly and now like grinding to a halt because we're waiting. 66 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: But I mean I feel I feel like a January 67 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: move in is likely, which I'm nervous about because of 68 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: Jersey weather, but you know, it is what it is. 69 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all about stress management. 70 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: What else is going on? 71 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 4: So I officially declared next Tuesday work from home Tuesday 72 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 4: for the people that report to me, because I want 73 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 4: everyone to have ample time and flexibility to get. 74 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: Out and vote. 75 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: Yes, please Jesus. 76 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 4: Get out and vote. Get out there. 77 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 78 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 4: It just feels like, if you you know midterm elections, 79 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 4: it feels like this has more hype than even even 80 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 4: the presidential election day, which is kind of sad to me. 81 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 4: But the stakes are huge. The stakes are so huge. 82 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 4: I mean, this is going to determine control of the 83 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 4: two chambers of Congress. I mean, this is this has 84 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 4: massive implications. And if you're upset, if you're feeling like, 85 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 4: you know, the government is not working for you, the 86 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 4: only thing you can do is vote. 87 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: Exactly. No, I agree, you just like, is this real life? 88 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: I'm wonder, Like I wonder one day when I'm like 89 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: a grandma, like what my kids or my grandkids will 90 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: say about this time, Like is it true. 91 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: Grandma that you add an idiot named I'm like, oh lord, girl, 92 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: I'll talk about those tabs. We call those the doc ages. 93 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 4: Listen, the Holocaust happened, Slavery happened. We are capable of 94 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 4: great terribleness, Like, yes we are. All you know, all 95 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 4: we can do is vote, I am. 96 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: I'll tell you one. One. 97 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: One thing that is giving me so much hope right 98 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 4: now is so my mom. I've talked about her on 99 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 4: the show before. She is the She's the woman that. 100 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are talking about white 101 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 4: Midwestern women who voted for Trump, and you know, like, 102 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 4: how are they going to vote this time? How is 103 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 4: the perception of Trump changed? And like, I don't know, 104 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 4: I've I've talked about before how delicate it's been talking 105 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: to my mom about politics. I mean, we had like terrible, 106 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 4: like earth shattering fights the year after the election, and 107 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 4: then we just decided we cannot have a relationship if 108 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 4: we just talk about politics. So we just stopped altogether. 109 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 4: And it's like walking on eggshells with her. You know, 110 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 4: I try not to mention anything. It's been difficult, but Okay. 111 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 4: I was on the phone with her like a week 112 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 4: or two ago and she got quiet, and we were 113 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 4: talking about what I was gonna do for the weekend, 114 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 4: and she was like, you know, I think I'm gonna 115 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 4: go check out The Hate You Give? And I said, what, 116 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 4: I haven't even read that book, to be honest, And 117 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: I was like, you're gonna go see the Hate You Give? Okay, 118 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 4: this is and if you guys don't know, that's a 119 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 4: movie about a young black teenager in I don't know 120 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 4: where it takes place. It was shot in Atlanta, the 121 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 4: film itself, but anyway, young black teenager gets pulled away 122 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 4: the cops and gets shot, and it's just about the 123 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 4: repercussions of that incident. Anyway, my mom was like, yeah, 124 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna. 125 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: Go see it. I love the book. I really enjoyed it. 126 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 4: I was like, Okay. Next thing she said was, you know, 127 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 4: I watched the debate she lives in. She lives in 128 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 4: Missouri right really really highly contested race per Senate in 129 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 4: Missouri right now, where the Democratic incumbent is really in 130 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 4: danger of losing her seat. And there's a you know, 131 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 4: a Trump uh kind of Trump flag waving Republican is 132 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 4: in is her uh is her opponent. And my mom 133 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 4: said she had watched the debate and then she was like, 134 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 4: I don't really like that that what's his face? I 135 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 4: forget his name now, I don't really like that that Republican, 136 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 4: you know, but I you know, uh. And she started 137 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 4: talking me, saying some positive things about the Democrat candidate, 138 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,559 Speaker 4: and I was like, Okay, hold your breath, don't screw 139 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: this up. Don't screw this up, Mandy, shut don't. And 140 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 4: then she said, you know, Mandy, I feel like this 141 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 4: year is going to be a big year for me. 142 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 4: I feel like I am more aware of what's going 143 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 4: on and I might be making some changes dot dot dot, 144 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 4: and I just said nothing. I literally held my breath 145 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: and I was like, but inside I'm dancing because I'm 146 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 4: like something is shifting, Like she's I feel like if 147 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 4: she's been able to sort of change the way that 148 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 4: she's voting or at least thinking about politics in a 149 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 4: different way, that gives me so much heart and so 150 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 4: much hope that maybe we will see some real change 151 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: with the selection coming up. 152 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: You know, I just think so much has happened where 153 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: you just can't ignore it. And I love that that 154 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: because not everyone's open. That's like like because you know 155 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: my dad and it's like traditional, like you know, older, 156 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: like you know, especially when when people get older, if 157 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,119 Speaker 2: they grew up Christian, they tend to be like hyper 158 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: Christian during that time. And so he was like very 159 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: much like, you know, I think, you know, homosexuality is bad. 160 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: When Allen came out, he was like no, no, no, 161 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: turn off the TV. You know. But then he was like, so, 162 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: my dad's really big and watching political channels. It was 163 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: like I love, like, so he loves Rachel Maddow like, oh, 164 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: when I say loves yo, I was like, looking, I 165 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: remember he was Tiffy, have you watched Rachel? 166 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 4: Oh? 167 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: I just love Rachel. Oh my god. And I was 168 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: looking at myself. 169 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: I thought to myself, do you know, Daddy like Rachel, 170 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: she's as gay as they come. 171 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: I didn't sound him. 172 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: That, but I was like, mm hmm, you love Rachel, 173 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: don't do you. I don't think he knew at first. 174 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: And then I don't know if she came out on 175 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: TV or or if it came out. And then he 176 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: was like, Tiffany, did you did you know that Rachel 177 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: was gay? 178 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: I was like, she is? 179 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: And I could see he was grappling with it, like 180 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: I love Rachel Rachel. 181 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: And so he kind of left it there and still 182 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: was watching. 183 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: And so and then one day, like maybe last year, 184 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: my dad was talking casual, talking casually. He was saying 185 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: something something yeah, Rachel. She was saying that her and 186 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: her partner that she I couldn't believe it. I was like, 187 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: did my father say partner? 188 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: Oh? 189 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 2: And he was just you thinking like her and her 190 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 2: partner that they should be able to And I agree, 191 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: I think that. 192 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: And I was just like, look, at the world changing. 193 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: You've changed a little ebo man from somebody who just 194 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: was like, has this singular focus about this is what 195 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: I don't get homosexuality. So it's it's wrong and it's 196 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: terrible and this, this and that. 197 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: But then someone that you respect so much and that 198 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: you think is so awesome happens to be the very 199 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: thing that you're like must be so terrible and wrong, 200 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 2: and it calls him to question what you believe. Man, 201 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 2: Not that I think that he's like, you know, I mean, 202 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: I'm sure he still has his you know, obviously believes 203 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: about you know, Christianity, but he is realizing that it's 204 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: not as black and white as as people would make it, 205 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: you know. And I just love the fact that, like, 206 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: you know, that if he as old as he is 207 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: in his seventies can make the switch. I think, like 208 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 2: anyone can kind of make the switch. 209 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 3: So I love that, Tiff. 210 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 4: I have to tell you, so you know how we 211 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: talk about my Jamal. Yeah, I have another name. I 212 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 4: found out another guy listens and his name is Ian. Okay, hey, Ian, 213 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 4: he works with me. And I found out he listened 214 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 4: to our podcast and I did I died. He doesn't 215 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: know what Ian, I know if you're listening. 216 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: I really died. 217 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: He's like, we were on a we were talking about 218 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 4: something at work, and he was like, so I heard 219 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 4: on that Paychecks and Balances crossover episode. Man, me and 220 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 4: my wife are going through something similar, you know where 221 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 4: I'm thinking about, uh, you know, covering some whatever. I'm 222 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 4: not putting his business out there, but he quoted something 223 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 4: from the show and I was like, Ian, shut his face. 224 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: Ya. Isn't it crazy? Like whenever people like, you know, 225 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: like actually listen. 226 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: I mean it's even when women, I'm like, really, i 227 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 2: just always feel like I'm talking to you. I'm like hey, Mandy, 228 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: and I'm like, wait what, especially when people now because 229 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: they know I'm not a hugger, so they love hugging 230 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: me and they give me two one for me, one 231 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: for you. And so when people like just come up 232 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: to me and they're like, oh my god, I love the. 233 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: Podcast coming in and said, Hi, how's the house going, 234 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, and I'm like, wow, y'all, really. 235 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 4: You know, give her two hugs from me y too, 236 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 4: and squeeze really hard and linger. 237 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: Don't do that, because I was definitely gonna be like 238 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: you know what, Oh my goodness, h. 239 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: Oh, anything else from you, mandra. 240 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: Let's move it on to boost and break? How about that? 241 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: I think that. 242 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 3: I think I got a good one. 243 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: Okay, what are you gonna do? Are you gonna boost? Break? 244 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: Are you gonna boost? Are you gonna break? Are you 245 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: gonna booz booz? Are you gonna break? That was a 246 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: little improblem you welcome. 247 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 3: That was impressive. They're not always impressive, but that was 248 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: pretty good. Pretty good. I want to do a break 249 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 3: real quick. 250 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 4: I want to do a break for just I'm just 251 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 4: speaking to people out there who are maybe early in 252 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 4: their careers or you know, it's a hot job market 253 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 4: right now. A lot of people are trying to move 254 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 4: around jobs. 255 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: We're hiring a. 256 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 4: Lot at my company. I'm doing a lot of interviews. 257 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 4: I am like just you know, stockpiling tips on resume 258 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 4: writing and cover letters and interview process and whatever. But 259 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: if you're out there and you're in the interview process, 260 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 4: here's here's a lesson in what not to do. Okay, 261 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 4: So we had an open position here, had a lovely 262 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 4: person apply for this job, and after a couple of 263 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 4: rounds of interviews and then taking a we give certain 264 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 4: positions a test to see if they're qualified. First test 265 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 4: was like okay, and then we decided to do a 266 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 4: second test because I was a little bit on the fence, 267 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 4: and based on that second test and then feedback from 268 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 4: a couple of other people who'd be working with, this person, 269 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 4: decided decided not to move forward with the applicant and 270 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 4: instead of you know, we have a recruiter on our 271 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 4: team who's you know, helping us communicate with our applicant 272 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 4: because there's so many different candidates out there, and sent 273 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 4: this person a letter, just you know, an email just 274 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 4: saying you know, we're not you know, we're not going 275 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 4: to move forward with your application or. 276 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: Something like that. 277 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 4: And I didn't think anything about it until like a 278 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 4: week later, that same recruiter we were talking about like 279 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 4: the status update, and she was like, just so you 280 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 4: guys know, we got a really terrible Glassdoor interview review, 281 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 4: which I didn't even know you could review the interview 282 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 4: process on Glassdoor. But our company, this this person turned 283 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 4: around after not getting a job, was so upset about it, 284 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 4: and I guess like the sense of entitlement was so 285 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 4: strong that they decided to go to Glassdoor and write 286 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 4: a whole like takedown of the interview process and how 287 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 4: unprofessional we were and during the interview process. And here's 288 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 4: what kills me. It's not just about, you know, don't 289 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 4: be a jerk. You know, who writes a you know, 290 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 4: a petty review if you don't get a job. But 291 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 4: it was it was about this person wasn't terrible, Like, 292 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 4: it wasn't in the fact that they didn't have potential 293 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 4: that we didn't you know, extend an offer to them. 294 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 4: It was there are a lot of other candidates in 295 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 4: the mix, and they were just had more experience or 296 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 4: they had they were more seasoned than you were. And 297 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 4: I legit told the recruiter when I told her to 298 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 4: you know, let the candidate off easy, to tell her 299 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 4: that I'm happy to mentor her and help her improve on, 300 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 4: you know, certain areas. Because I felt this, and I 301 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 4: get really like, I you know, this person, I felt 302 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 4: like I identify with them. They're young, they're earlier in 303 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 4: their career, but they have a lot of potential whatever. 304 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 4: But she went and did this, and I'm like, now 305 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 4: you have instead of taking that email from the recruiter 306 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 4: which says, you know, Mandy's happy to talk to you 307 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: and emailing me, you know, to ask, you know, hey, 308 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 4: I'd love more information on why this did it work 309 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 4: out or whatever where I can improve to go and 310 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 4: do this like yelp takedown basically of the interview process, 311 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 4: like I'm never going to refer you for a job 312 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 4: like this is a very small world, you know, the 313 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 4: world that I operate in, and it just shocked me 314 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 4: that someone would choose to burn a bridge like that 315 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 4: and so immaturely. And so if you guys are out 316 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 4: there and you're interviewing, just just listen. Like we read 317 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 4: the glass door reviews and it's not super hard to 318 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 4: tell who it is who's written them based on what 319 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 4: you put in there. And just because you get turned 320 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 4: down for a job, you know, doesn't mean there there's 321 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 4: not an opportunity to make a connection like leave like 322 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 4: at least leave a good like. We have jobs open 323 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 4: all the time. And the first thing I did when 324 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 4: we had these eight opens eight openings come to be 325 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 4: as I went back to the last you know, crop 326 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: of resumes and interviews to say, who did I like 327 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 4: from the last batch, is anyone still available? You know, well, 328 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 4: we may come around to you in the next round. 329 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 4: Like you want to keep that door open. 330 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, So with my sister, she has since moved from 331 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: Jersey to Chicago years ago, but she was like, literally 332 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: there are people that she sees from Jersey, like at 333 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: the jobs and job interviews in Chicago and in her field. 334 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: And so that was just really a really foolish move 335 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: and immature because you just don't know when you're going 336 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: to see people again. And yeah, it's just burning your 337 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: bridges is never a good thing if you can help it. 338 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: And yeah, that was just foolish because now if you 339 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: were to see her, you know, ten years from now, 340 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: you might be like, ooh, I don't know, she's that one. 341 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: Seems like a troublemaker, you know. 342 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, or just just immature and not willing to have 343 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 4: a teaching moment or learn where you can improve, or 344 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 4: just like the sense of entitlement. 345 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: Like I thought it went really well. 346 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 4: The hiring manager had positive feedback, but I still didn't 347 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 4: get that, you know, and just to criticize, I don't know, 348 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 4: just to take it so personally like that. And I 349 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 4: wish her all the best, but I you know, my 350 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 4: first job I got in New York City, it was 351 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 4: exactly that. 352 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: It was I got. 353 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 4: I had an internship, and then I got a job 354 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: from someone who remembered me from that internship, you know, 355 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 4: two years later, and then the next job after that, 356 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: guess what the editorial assistant, which is like the bottom, 357 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 4: the lowest rung on the totem pole in publishing. She 358 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 4: was now an editor and she remembered me like five 359 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: years later for a job, and she reached out to me, 360 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 4: and at the time she was like really low, but 361 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 4: then she became an editor and that you know, she 362 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: brought me up. So I learn firsthand the value of you. 363 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 4: I'm not going to say I'm perfect. Oh there's bridges 364 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 4: I have burned, and I regret for sure, but this 365 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 4: just struck me. And and I'm just as a warning. 366 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 4: You know, glass stores out there, people are using it, 367 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 4: and just be careful. You know how you choose to 368 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 4: use glass door because people watch and we read and 369 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 4: we talk, and it can you can end up hurting 370 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 4: yourself down the line. It makes you in ways you 371 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 4: may not understand just now in the heat of that emotion. 372 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and like you said, don't be 373 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: Nikki and Cardi if you can help it, basically, right, 374 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: that's the lesson in all this just. 375 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,479 Speaker 3: Be Queen Latifa. 376 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: So mine, I'm gonna do a small little boost and 377 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: then like a small little break in a bigger boost. 378 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: So my computer I've got, like I guess Google Chrome, 379 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 2: like that's the that's the browser I use. 380 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: And I don't know if anybody else is using Chrome. 381 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: But for some reason, like the Facebook is setting like 382 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: the pop up notifications, I can't turn them off. I 383 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 2: tried everything, I've googled, everything I've written Facebook, I don't 384 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: know what happened. And I'm getting I don't want to 385 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: see Mandy like your picture, someone to send you a 386 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: message like it just keeps popping up. 387 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 4: Wait a second, are you that old lady who's using 388 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 4: the podcast for tech support? 389 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: And so when I tell you, like yo, it's popping 390 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: up every two seconds and I can weep. 391 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: And I tried every day. So yeah, that's just my 392 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: little break, you know. 393 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: I've come to grips with it that just when I 394 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: see it, I'm just like my left eye twitches. 395 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 3: Low key notifications. 396 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 4: I mean, so that's so distracting you if you're at 397 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 4: work or trying to get stuff done, like all the 398 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 4: pings and the pop ups and the bouncing icons and 399 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 4: stuff like, I try to shut that all down. 400 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: It's so and I don't know what to do. 401 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna have to find that, you know, some 402 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: young millennial Techi window. 403 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: I'm getting a new computer. That's it. So that's my 404 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: little break. 405 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 2: And those Dagon and it just came out of nowhere, 406 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 2: those Dagon notifications. 407 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: Anyway, my booth. Maybe have you been watching Red Table 408 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: Talks with Jada Pickett and her mom and her daughter. 409 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: I have. I watched. 410 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 4: I was just listening to the one with Will Smith 411 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 4: that came out like last week. Is that what you're 412 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 4: gonna talk about? 413 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: Yes? Oh my gosh, right right, So the second one 414 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: just came out. 415 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: I haven't watched the second one yet, but I think 416 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have Superman watched the first and second one with. 417 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: Me, but I haven't. I mean, it is so like 418 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: the first one was so good. 419 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: It's just I just love this the transparency that they're showing, 420 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: you know that, like everything's not perfect, and how hard 421 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: they have to work on their marriage, and like the fact, 422 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: like if you listen, there's so many jewels dropped, Like 423 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: the fact they went to communication classes, the fact that 424 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: they set a standard in the beginning, like honestly, Superman 425 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 2: and I did that because I was like, I don't 426 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: I don't want to grow up in that, or I 427 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: don't want to, you know, yell and cuss and fuss 428 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: at each other. So we like made that a rule. Meanwhile, 429 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: I don't know one who breaks it because you know, 430 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm trying to be better. He's the 431 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: I thought that he was gonna be like the yeller, 432 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: but I'm the one he's like, why why is your 433 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: voice raising? 434 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: My way is not raising? 435 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 2: It is. 436 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: He's a way better communicator, mean. 437 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 2: And while I had all of these rules about how 438 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: we got to communicate with respect, and I'm the one 439 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 2: who I'm like, timpany look at yourself in the mirror, 440 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 2: look at yourself. So no, but I just thought it 441 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 2: was really beautiful. So I can't wait to watch the 442 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: second one. 443 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: I love that. 444 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 2: Like even like the story of how they met was 445 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 2: pretty amazing and how Will was just really clear that 446 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: he wanted to get married and he wanted to have 447 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: a family, and I was talking to like, so Superman. 448 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: This weekend was that we were at my parents' house 449 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 2: and what started off as like, oh, can you help 450 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: me do this one favorite the basement became like almost 451 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: a remodel. Have we've been there every We've been there 452 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 2: at their house more than our house. And so he 453 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: was just redoing like the plumbing in their in their 454 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: master back because there was like a little bit of 455 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 2: a leak. My mom wanted a new fixtion because one 456 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: of the little like the hot handle on the sink 457 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: wasn't turning. I mean just everything toilet was running. I mean, 458 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: my mom has gotten her her money's worth, child, and 459 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: so and even when I brought Supergirl, like we brought 460 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: Supergirl on Saturday, she gave her a Supergirl because meanwhile, 461 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: Supergirl is because she's the only child, and like, she's 462 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 2: got three adults in her life that like, so she 463 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: doesn't she's not used to like doing as much stuff 464 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 2: as she ought to, quite honestly, because I was always 465 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 2: getting on them about she needs to were yours. But 466 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: as soon as she walked to my mother's house, my 467 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: mother was like, here's a rag. I'm gonna need you 468 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 2: to write down. She looks so shocked, like, wait, I 469 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: don't I don't understand. I'm like, that's called a rag 470 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 2: and we're cleaning. But then my mom ended up giving 471 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: her like a little bit of money just to be 472 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 2: like she's I want her to come back. I'm like, 473 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 2: tell clean, mommy. But it was just really like awesome. 474 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: And I see all that to say that. Somebody hit 475 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: me behind the scenes and said, dang girl, because I 476 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,959 Speaker 2: think I like he fixed their sink, and I was 477 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: I put it on ig Stories and he was entering 478 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: to the door song he did it, We did it, 479 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: We did it, Lauren Semos and she was like, danger, hey, 480 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 2: you get do all that. 481 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: I can't even get a text back. 482 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 2: And I just thought, like I don't get him to 483 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: do all of that, that there are men out there 484 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: who are already in that space. 485 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: And I think that that's what I like about Red 486 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: Table Talks is. 487 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 2: That it shows that you know, sometimes it's like, you know, 488 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: you have to be open to the fact that sometimes 489 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 2: the person that you're wanting, that you're looking for might 490 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 2: not look exactly like what the picture you have in 491 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 2: your mind, and so you want to be really clear 492 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: about what you desire in a person. I knew I 493 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 2: wanted somebody who was intrinsically kind. I like literally wrote 494 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 2: these things down I wanted somebody who was generous, you know, 495 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: I wanted somebody who was considerate. And like I told myself, 496 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: if he is a five foot five Asian man, Okay, 497 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: not to have anything wrong with Asian man, but I'm 498 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 2: not naturally attracted to Asia man. 499 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: But I told myself I was going to be open 500 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: to that much. 501 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: The whoever I love might not look like, you know, 502 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: like like what I had in my mind, but would 503 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: feel like what I needed in my life. And you know, 504 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 2: Superman happens to be chocolate. So I was like, oh, 505 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: thank you Jesus. But you know, if he was it, 506 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: but he had all of those characteristics, you know, I 507 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 2: likely would still love him. 508 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: Not likely I would. 509 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: And so I mean, red Table Talks just shows you 510 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: that there are men out there who are already predisposed 511 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: to wanting more, and not everybody is playing. Not everybody 512 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 2: is like you know, tricking out here in these streets. 513 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 2: And so ladies, there's hope. I mean, not that Superman 514 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: is perfect, because he's not. But like I fell on 515 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 2: the toilet the other day. I was like, sir, you 516 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 2: know when you leave the toilet set up, I was like, 517 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: it was like the first time that happened. I'm realized. 518 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: I'm surprised that you know that hasn't happened more. But like, 519 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 2: you know, middles of the night you go to the bathroom. 520 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 2: I literally was like, I'm sitting, I'm sitting in town. 521 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 4: I would have woken him up by pouring a bucket 522 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 4: of toilet water on his face. 523 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 2: Now, I was so because now I'm like, now I've 524 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: got to wash because what am I gonna go to 525 00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: bed with the WebBook? 526 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 4: Now? 527 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: I gotta take a full shower at one am. That's 528 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: what we're doing. So other than that, though, he's great. No, 529 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: but so yeah, Red Table Talks that is my brown boost. 530 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: If you watch it, tweet us at it's the BA 531 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 2: podcast on Twitter, right it is. 532 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so tell me like your favorite parts. 533 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 2: And I haven't watched part two, but you can tweet 534 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 2: the those two because I'm sure i'll watch it by 535 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: the time the years it's on Facebook. 536 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 5: Yeah cool, yeah, yeah. 537 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: Exactly, Okay, any any other questions. 538 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 3: Oh a real question? Okay, cool? Yeah? Oh I always 539 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: do that. I X out my tab as I'm aimlessly 540 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: clicking things. 541 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 2: Well, while we were for Mandy to open her tab. 542 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 2: If you've got questions. You can email us at Brown 543 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 2: Ambition podcast at gmail dot com. 544 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, because we love your questions. Or you can go to. 545 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: You know what, where can you go? You really good? 546 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: I did. 547 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: I was so happy with myself and then then just 548 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 2: like quickly, I don't know, my memory is really terrible, 549 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 2: Like I'll have it, and then what will happen is 550 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 2: I will I'll get nervous about it, and then I'm like, 551 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: I don't know it? 552 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: You know what? What's our website? 553 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: Ran a bison podcast? 554 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 3: Yes? 555 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: Oh yes, so you can help ask us anything and yeah, 556 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 2: we'd love your question. 557 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: Whatever. 558 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: Girl, I'm still shaky sometimes too, But anyone, what's the 559 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: next question? 560 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 3: Thank you? 561 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 4: I found the question like five minutes ago. 562 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 3: Thank you for the cover. 563 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, we have a really we have a we have 564 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 4: a good question speaking of Christ for help. So this 565 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 4: comes from anonymous, Oh clever a dot anonymous. So this listener, 566 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 4: I think this is this is a good question. I 567 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 4: think everyone can relate to this, she said. He Mandy 568 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 4: and Tiffany. I'm absolutely ashamed to be asking this, but 569 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 4: after listening to your podcast for so long, I feel 570 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 4: like this is a safe space it is to ask this. 571 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 4: Anonymous question that I'm sure many of your readers can 572 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 4: relate to. What advice can you give to those of 573 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 4: us who have a long time, who have a long 574 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 4: time to go before achieving our financial and personal goals, 575 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 4: Like I'm talking years to get out of debt, build savings, 576 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 4: et cetera. Meanwhile, I feel like everyone is glowing up, 577 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 4: buying houses, getting married and so on. It makes me 578 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 4: so disgusted that I give up hope and just keep digging, 579 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 4: going deeper into debt. I think it would be helpful 580 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,719 Speaker 4: to know how you ladies coped when you were in 581 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 4: your struggle phases. Sincerely, Anonymous. 582 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: Hey, I mean, well, I remember when Facebook kind of 583 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 2: like when I got on Facebook for the first time 584 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: and I was like, everyone's. 585 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 1: Taking vacations every week. 586 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: I just remember being so shocked at like how much 587 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: the people that like I knew, not like the people 588 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 2: I knew closely, but like you know, like folks from 589 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: college or high school that I don't necessarily talk to anymore, 590 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: but watching everyone go on vacation and buy nice clothes, 591 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: And I remember being like, but I'm broke. 592 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: How what am I doing wrong? 593 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 2: I mean now that like I'm I'm more into it 594 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 2: I realized a lot of people were doing that off 595 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 2: of credit cards, and so they didn't have what you 596 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: thought they had. But honestly, here's the thing. And I 597 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: had to tell this to my friend the other day 598 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 2: because he was struggling with like, you know, he's like, 599 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 2: I've got a very active social life and I want 600 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 2: to still go to the club and vacations with my 601 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: friends and fancy dinners and blah blah blah. And I said, friend, 602 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 2: you can either take the big L for a short 603 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: period of time that means staying home, saving budgeting, getting 604 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 2: yourself together, another stream of income, all of that for 605 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 2: a short period of time, like really grind during the 606 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 2: shorter period of time, or you could take a small 607 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: L the rest of your life, meaning like you're always 608 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 2: on the cusp of struggling forever, you know, because if 609 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: you don't reset, you know, and build from a strong foundation, 610 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 2: then it's like you're always going to be just that 611 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: close to being broke, just that close to like. 612 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: You know, check to check. 613 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: And so it just took me, honestly too, and it 614 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: might take you staying off social media for why I 615 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 2: know I did, and just I had to focus and 616 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 2: it took me about maybe like three or four years 617 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 2: to like get past broke, and then like another two 618 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: years to get to get to a point. 619 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: Where I wasn't just beyond broke. 620 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, you're okay, and then another year 621 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 2: to be better than okay. 622 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: So it took some time. 623 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: But if I had not taken that l you know, 624 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 2: and during that period of time, I would still be 625 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 2: semi struggling, but forever. 626 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: And I didn't want to be eighty and semi struggling. 627 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: I was like, well, let me just take a few 628 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: years and for me to be uncomfortable in order for 629 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: me to have the life that I want later. So 630 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: that's my advice. 631 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think as much as you can try 632 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 4: and well try and first of all, but at social media, 633 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,239 Speaker 4: I would say, take a break from social media if 634 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 4: you feel like people are posting there, if it's people 635 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 4: like Okay, listen, Tip and I have been talking about 636 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 4: our break and home renovations like crazy people for you know, 637 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 4: a year now, and it may seem like, well, geez, 638 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 4: they just got a house out of nowhere. They're doing 639 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 4: so well and I'm doing so so not well. You know, 640 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 4: ask people, how did you how did you get to 641 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 4: a place where you could afford a home? Okay, I 642 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 4: started saving when I was twenty two years old. I 643 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 4: was part of a company that got acquired. I made 644 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 4: money off of that, so I'll be upfront about that. 645 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 4: I changed jobs until I got you know, equity, and 646 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 4: equity has been beneficial to me too my. 647 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 3: Last two jobs. 648 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 4: So there's steps that I took to get to a 649 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 4: place where I could afford a house. So I feel like, 650 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 4: instead of feeling down about it, like talk to people 651 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 4: about the steps they took to get to where they are, 652 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 4: even if it's like offline or whatever. You know, just 653 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,959 Speaker 4: like off the record to hear the story behind what 654 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 4: seems like a super easy, you know, accomplishment that they 655 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 4: may just like post about on social media. And be 656 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 4: clear about your goals and what you want, because that's 657 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 4: what could be agonizing, Like if you're not sure what 658 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 4: you want and then you see everyone else doing something 659 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 4: and you think, is that what I should want? I 660 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 4: don't have that yet, you know I should want that. 661 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 4: I want that, nah, And then you start feeling terrible 662 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 4: about yourself, you know, around for me buying a house 663 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 4: that I had to I had to really have come 664 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 4: to Jesus' situation with myself. Do I really want a house? 665 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 4: And what does that say about me? And how I 666 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 4: how I used my money that I've worked hard to 667 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 4: build up, you know, and I had and I and 668 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 4: I'll tell you point blank, I've struggled with going back 669 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 4: and forth. You know, is buying a house the right thing? 670 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 4: Is this the right way to invest my money? I 671 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 4: don't have it entirely figured it out. Like, talk to 672 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 4: me in ten years and I'll tell you if it 673 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 4: was a good idea that I, you know, bought this house. 674 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 675 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 4: So just all you can do, I think, is talk 676 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 4: to people and then listen to their self doubt, you know, 677 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 4: listen to their insecurity, listen to you know, the steps 678 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 4: they took to accomplish those goals, to maybe learn something 679 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 4: from them or to take art in the fact that 680 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 4: not everyone has everything figgled figured out, and then dust 681 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 4: your hands off and get back to work on accomplishing 682 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 4: your goals, because, you know, steeping yourself and feelings of 683 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 4: negativity or in scarcity or feeling like you're never going 684 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 4: to accomplish your goals, that that definitely won't get you 685 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 4: to your goals. You know, that's the sure fire away 686 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 4: not to accomplish your goals, but think about the actionable 687 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 4: things you can do to get there, and you know, 688 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 4: if there's any drastic changes you could make to to 689 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 4: put yourself on the track that you want to that 690 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 4: you want to be on. 691 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: And then too finding like like finding like your squad, 692 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: because like having a group of peers who too, who 693 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: also was kind of like in the same space, like 694 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: wanting to do more, you know, still. 695 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: Struggling a little bit, and so I have like a 696 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 2: squad of people that we kind of grew up together. 697 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: And it was random. Some people I met at coffee shops, 698 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: some people I met at networking events, some people small 699 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: business association. Just so so as I started to build 700 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: like those people and it didn't mean that we all 701 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: collectively hung out together, but like, you know, my friend 702 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 2: Cabral or my friend Mark, they're not necessarily friends, but 703 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: these are folks that when I was building, so were they. 704 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: So it normalized the process of like I don't have it. 705 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: I remember, like like maybe a couple years ago when 706 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 2: I was really struggling and I was like, oh, Mark, man, 707 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: I'm you know, I didn't I didn't you know, like 708 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 2: I'm laid on my bills. 709 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: He was like ooh, I thought I was the only one. 710 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 2: And we both started laughing, and it normalized the process 711 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: for us, like, Okay, laid on your bills happened, You 712 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: didn't kill anybody, And so now marked us very well. 713 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: He's got like five or six laundromats. 714 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: And Charlotte, North Carolina. He had an investment property in 715 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: Newark that he sold recently, and so like we laugh 716 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: about those times. So finding like people in your position 717 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: that are also growing and building is going to help too, 718 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: because it will normalize that this part of the of 719 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 2: the journey is is okay, and there's nothing wrong with it. 720 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: It's just this is part of the journey. 721 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 4: I had to cut a friend early in my twenties 722 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 4: who was she had money when none of us did, 723 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 4: and we would go out and she would want to 724 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 4: pay for everything, but then like low key, make you 725 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 4: feel bad for not wanting to pay for everything. And 726 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 4: it was a really toxic friendship and it was almost 727 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 4: like we were the friends that she kept around to 728 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 4: make herself feel better about where she. 729 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 3: Was at financially. 730 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 4: Okay, And as soon as I recognize that I was like, Ann, 731 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 4: I'm done. I mean it took me like a few 732 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 4: years of this toxic friendship, but I cut that friend out. 733 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 4: And you know, if there's people in your life who 734 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 4: who aren't you know, making who aren't supporting you or 735 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 4: like being your cheerleader or your champion, you feel like 736 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 4: you can't open up to them, just cut them, cut 737 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 4: them out of your life. 738 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: And well, cut them out of your life, said, cut them, 739 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 2: like take that night, Cirl. 740 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 3: I mean it might come to that, but hopefully not. 741 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 4: No, that's awesome though, but I mean, yeah, we both, 742 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 4: I mean we want us to go down our list 743 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 4: of struggles. 744 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 3: There's a long list of struggles. 745 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, but we're right there with you. And thank you 746 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 4: for listening to this podcast. And yeah, hopefully you get 747 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 4: support beyond this show, but actually talking to people in 748 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 4: your network or your family or your friends so that 749 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 4: you don't feel so alone, because you're definitely not. 750 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: You're definitely not. The truth is not to shade the 751 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: folks who are who are posting all this soff. 752 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 2: Honestly, more people are struggling than you know. And I'm 753 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 2: not saying that in a judgmental way and anything else, 754 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 2: but like just because someone is on vacation or they 755 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 2: bought a car, or they've got you know, like dope 756 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 2: clothes or whatever, that does not mean that they're excluded 757 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 2: from the financial struggle. So outward expression of wealth and 758 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 2: money has nothing to do with what people really have. 759 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen people that are like, You're like, 760 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 2: you have money, but you look but you look homeless. 761 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 3: You know. 762 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 2: I've seen people who look like they have money and 763 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: they actually do have money. And then I've seen people 764 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 2: who look like wealth and are totally broke. So there's 765 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 2: no way to tell basically like what people have. And 766 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 2: you know, so a lot of people it might be 767 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 2: stunting for the gram, you know, their Facebook, Facebook what 768 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 2: is this? So they have a Facebook fortune, you know, 769 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: and that's not necessarily true. So just know that, like, 770 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 2: you know, not all things are real. It's like, you know, 771 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,439 Speaker 2: the beautiful models on the in the magazine that yes, 772 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 2: these women. 773 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: Are beautiful, but you know they're also touched up. So 774 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: everybody does a little touch upon their life for social media. 775 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 3: Ay Man, that Mayfair filter though, that's my jam. 776 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Mayfair. There isn't another one that I 777 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:28,959 Speaker 1: like too. 778 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 4: Yeahs all right, Thank you anonymousphere question. And again, you 779 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 4: guys can go to Brand Ambition podcast dot com ask 780 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 4: us anything to send us a question, or you can 781 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 4: hit us up at Brand Ambition Podcast at gmail dot 782 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 4: com with your question. 783 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: Yes ma'am now just said dot com. 784 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 4: Oh I know, I said, yes ma'am. 785 00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: All right, those are really great questions. So what do 786 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: we usually end with this? That would we end with? 787 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 4: I think they were supposed to do the boost at 788 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 4: the end now, but like I forgot. 789 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: No, but this is awesome. 790 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 2: I honestly just and honestly I love that the feedback 791 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 2: that we got from the Battle of the Sex, and 792 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 2: so many people hit me up and said do that again? Honestly, 793 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 2: so I would love to have, like, you know, to 794 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 2: to have We'd love to have more people on the 795 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: podcast and more guys to kind of give their point 796 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 2: of view. And this time we should really have a 797 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 2: battle because I feel like that was everybody was so nice, 798 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 2: and we need the gloves to come. 799 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 3: Off, you know, they all talk like this bedroom voices. 800 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: Oh maybe we should have the Huggies on. 801 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't know who. 802 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: That would be kind of fun though. 803 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, Superman already thinks that he's 804 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 2: part of the podcast, so I feel like if I 805 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 2: feel like 806 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 1: That he might be partially open to that