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Speaker 1: Brian Callahan, good to see you, Good to be here.
Speaker 1: A lot of questions about your special teams and your
Speaker 1: press conference today. You mentioned that you're taking an all
Speaker 1: hands on deck approach to fix what ails you in
Speaker 1: that area, which amount expanding on how you go about
Speaker 1: the all hands on deck theory in a moment like this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you try to find solutions anywhere you can find them. Obviously,
Speaker 2: what happened on Sunday is not acceptable in any way,
Speaker 2: shape or form, and we have to find a way
Speaker 2: to rectify whatever those issues are. And there's several and
Speaker 2: they all play into each other, and so some of
Speaker 2: it's about finding who else can help us. Is there
Speaker 2: guys that are starting that can play more force on
Speaker 2: special teams. Is there guys in our practice squad that
Speaker 2: might be able to make an impact, as there guys
Speaker 2: outside of our building somewhere that could help us. So
Speaker 2: that's all part of the process. And then refining what
Speaker 2: we do fundamentally, what are what we do schematically, what
Speaker 2: are the things that hurt us why? And then how
Speaker 2: do we prevent that? And part of our issue on
Speaker 2: special teams thus far has been early in the season
Speaker 2: was protection.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: So we we fortified our protection unit, got some bigger
Speaker 2: bodies in there, put Jalen Harrow in there, put Nick
Speaker 2: Vannette in there at the wing, and you know, all
Speaker 2: three tight ends or you know with Chig and Wilier
Speaker 2: that they're all in the in the middle to try
Speaker 2: to fortify some of the rush issues we had early on,
Speaker 2: and and it's been good. Those guys have done a
Speaker 2: really nice job in protection. But then there's a coverage
Speaker 2: out element that you know, you're you're sort of taking heavier, sturdier,
Speaker 2: more stout bodies, and now you have to go cover
Speaker 2: the punts. And we haven't gotten down the field with
Speaker 2: enough speed, tempo all those things to and then when
Speaker 2: we've gotten down there, we've missed some tackles.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then the other part of it is the punter
Speaker 2: has a job to do too. Knowing that we can't
Speaker 2: maybe cover the punts down the field that way, how
Speaker 2: do we how do we help that with the punt?
Speaker 2: Do we got to hang the punp more? Do we
Speaker 2: directionally punt all those things? So it's just that it's
Speaker 2: total evaluation of where where we can help the unit.
Speaker 2: And really, you know, specifically we're talking about our two
Speaker 2: return our two coverage units, the punt and the kickoff,
Speaker 2: and that's where we've you've given up yardage that you know,
Speaker 2: helps losey games when you when you give up yardage
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 4: So as it pertains to hang time. Specifically, in asking
Speaker 4: Ryan Stonehouse to get more hang time on his punts,
Speaker 4: are you asking him to change his punting style?
Speaker 2: You know, I don't. I don't profess to be a
Speaker 2: punting guru, but certainly there's some things that we ask
Speaker 2: of him that because of the situation we're in to
Speaker 2: help our team, that's one of the things that we
Speaker 2: need to do a better job of to put us
Speaker 2: in position to have us get a chance to at
Speaker 2: the very minimum for some fair catches. So we don't,
Speaker 2: you know, put our guys in harm's way. So there's
Speaker 2: probably some stylistic change to it. I couldn't tell you
Speaker 2: what that necessari sarily would be. You know, in the
Speaker 2: weeds of it all.
Speaker 1: All right, So yesterday you had a statistical advantage all
Speaker 1: day long and certainly at the end of the game,
Speaker 1: but because of the special teams issues that didn't end
Speaker 1: up mattering. Is one of the more disappointing elements on
Speaker 1: the day that you did some things well on offense,
Speaker 1: and you did some things well on defense, but special
Speaker 1: team's mistakes kept you from just sort of playing the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions straight up. Almost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a really weird game in that regard,
Speaker 2: you know, And I think it's not just the special teams.
Speaker 2: I mean, we turn them all over four time on offense,
Speaker 2: two of which gave them plus field position on top
Speaker 2: of it, and then to respond, we gave up five
Speaker 2: touchdowns in the red zone. And that's a for a better,
Speaker 2: lack of a better term, a calamity of errors that
Speaker 2: that allowed them to score fifty two points. And a
Speaker 2: huge part of that is because we didn't help ourselves
Speaker 2: in any phase help the other phase.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: We we kind of went back and forth early. It
Speaker 2: felt like it was a long time and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden you look up, it's on the top of
Speaker 2: the second quarter. But there was there was moments where
Speaker 2: I thought we were really good defensively. There was moments
Speaker 2: and where I thought we moved the ball it was
Speaker 2: as well as probably passed the ball in terms of
Speaker 2: timing and efficiency. And Calvin had a big day, which
Speaker 2: was good to see from him. He bounced back in
Speaker 2: a big way after a disappointing week last week. And
Speaker 2: I just think that it's it's unfortunate that we didn't
Speaker 2: put ourselves in position to if we were going to
Speaker 2: get beat, let's get let's get beat, you know, right,
Speaker 2: and we didn't give her chanceself a chance to even
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess that's what I was really asking. Let
Speaker 1: me say it another when it's fourteen fourteen. Okay, you've
Speaker 1: had an interception and that wasn't probably a great decision,
Speaker 1: and you've given up a seventy yard run not great,
Speaker 1: But it's fourteen fourteen. You're right there, and I mean,
Speaker 1: if you go out and you kick them deeper they
Speaker 1: get a touch back, then we're playing ball fourteen fourteen
Speaker 1: and they're probably the best team in the NFC. Maybe
Speaker 1: they win the game, But it seemed like the most
Speaker 1: disappointing part is I would have liked to have seen
Speaker 1: that game, yes, And I have a feeling Brian Callahan
Speaker 1: knows what I mean.
Speaker 2: By yeah, Absolutely, I would have. I would love to
Speaker 2: see us, you know, go toe to toe in a
Speaker 2: game that you know, you're not going to have a
Speaker 2: perfect game. You're gonna make mistakes and they're gonna make mistakes,
Speaker 2: and that's just the gateway the game goes. But I
Speaker 2: would have liked to see what. I thought our team
Speaker 2: was in a great place. I thought they had great
Speaker 2: energy coming out, the way the defense started the game,
Speaker 2: and I just there was a lot of things about
Speaker 2: that game and I was excited about and I thought
Speaker 2: we moved the ball in a defense that I thought
Speaker 2: was maybe one of the better ones I've seen on
Speaker 2: tape all year, and I thought we did some really
Speaker 2: good things. And there's a lot of positive things to
Speaker 2: take away from it, except for the fact that you know,
Speaker 2: we didn't score more than fourteen points. And you know,
Speaker 2: they're just things that I was hoping that that we're
Speaker 2: ready to be ready to sort of take a jump,
Speaker 2: and I think we did in some areas and maybe
Speaker 2: smaller than I would have hoped. But I just thought
Speaker 2: we were ready to play that game and I thought
Speaker 2: our guys were in a great place and to just
Speaker 2: have it unfold the way it did is unfortunate because
Speaker 2: I think I was I felt like we were going
Speaker 2: to play a good football game against that team.
Speaker 4: You mentioned the performance of Calvin Ridley. What was it
Speaker 4: about that game anything that enabled you to get him
Speaker 4: going so early?
Speaker 2: First things first, I think our protection was good. We
Speaker 2: had a solid day in pass protection. That always is
Speaker 2: the starting point. I thought Mason played on time. He
Speaker 2: looked comfortable, He was accurate with the ball, especially early
Speaker 2: in that game. I mean he was, he was finding
Speaker 2: himself a bit of a rhythm. I think our offense
Speaker 2: found a bit of a rhythm on top of it,
Speaker 2: and Calvin was the beneficiary. He got some some mad
Speaker 2: We got a matched up on on the long ball
Speaker 2: down the right sideline, got him matched up on on
Speaker 2: their nickel, which is good on the on the inside fade.
Speaker 2: We got a match up against branch, which is you know,
Speaker 2: kind of their safety. So he got some matchups that
Speaker 2: were favorable and he won, and he made big plays
Speaker 2: and you know, he just he played with a ton
Speaker 2: of confidence. That was a Calvin that we've been waiting
Speaker 2: to see.
Speaker 1: How do you keep that going with him.
Speaker 2: I think he's in a great place right now, and
Speaker 2: I think that you you know, he's going to keep
Speaker 2: making plays in the balls they get thrown to him.
Speaker 2: And you know, I think he refocused his process. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't know if he'd be mad at me for
Speaker 2: sharing this or not, but you know, he he looked
Speaker 2: back and felt like, you know, I just maybe I'm
Speaker 2: not doing the right things or enough things in my preparation.
Speaker 2: And you know, every morning this week I look outside
Speaker 2: of my office and about seven am, the jugs machines running,
Speaker 2: and Calvin's out there catching I think he catches, you know,
Speaker 2: two two hundred dish balls out there in the morning
Speaker 2: before it starts his day. And you know, I thought
Speaker 2: that was that's how you that's how you do something
Speaker 2: about it. That's how you go about I need to
Speaker 2: do something different or more and how do I best
Speaker 2: do that while making sure I improve and play well
Speaker 2: for for our team. And I thought that was a
Speaker 2: great example of a of a guy trying to find
Speaker 2: a way out of the struggle. And he's been a
Speaker 2: little bit of the struggle and I just really appreciate
Speaker 2: how he goes about his business and it was I
Speaker 2: think it paid off.
Speaker 4: How do you plan to start the week at the
Speaker 4: right tackle position.
Speaker 2: Same as last week? Really, I mean there's only so many,
Speaker 2: you know, options we have, and you know, Leary did
Speaker 2: some good things and John did some good things. They
Speaker 2: both played some we'll probably keep that up and those
Speaker 2: things that improved. There was also some things that that
Speaker 2: got me. Still had some penalties and some things that
Speaker 2: weren't great. So we're just going to keep that as
Speaker 2: it is, and you know, as Isaiah gets more comfortable,
Speaker 2: we'll see where he's at. Isaiah Prince, excuse me, but
Speaker 2: we'll see where he's at.
Speaker 1: So you mentioned him, you signed him last week the
Speaker 1: practice squad. He's a guy you have familiarity with from
Speaker 1: the days in Cincinnati, actually started your suit bowld there.
Speaker 1: What does he have to start doing to legitimately get
Speaker 1: into that competition?
Speaker 2: Just knowing what to do, that's the first part. Understanding
Speaker 2: how things get taught and techniques and all those things,
Speaker 2: and you know, I think something you could get up
Speaker 2: to speed. He did a good job this last week
Speaker 2: and we'll just kind of see where it keeps progressing.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean he's got some experience he's played,
Speaker 2: and then my you know's there's a lot of football
Speaker 2: season left, and you know, we all know that injuries
Speaker 2: can be a part of it, and so we're gonna
Speaker 2: need all these guys to be able to play for us.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about leadership a little bit, because there's a
Speaker 4: lot of guys Arden, Keyamani Hooker, Quadri Diggs, Tony Pollard
Speaker 4: that are showing leadership not necessarily by what they're saying,
Speaker 4: but by their play on the field. How valuable is
Speaker 4: that to you right now?
Speaker 2: Incredibly? I actually pointed it out to our team in
Speaker 2: our team meeting today. Just just two plays at the
Speaker 2: end of the game, when it's fifty two to fourteen,
Speaker 2: and Jeff and Harold and Arden and those guys on
Speaker 2: Deep and Roger or are playing with the same intensity
Speaker 2: they played with at the first snap, and Tony Pollard's
Speaker 2: carrying a ball with the same speed and violence that
Speaker 2: he carries it the first time. And it just to me,
Speaker 2: that's that's what you know when people ask me like,
Speaker 2: how do you how do you believe in what in
Speaker 2: what you believe in, and why do you think the
Speaker 2: way you think? I see things like that where I
Speaker 2: know we're made of the right stuff, and we've got
Speaker 2: to stop, you know, putting ourselves in positions like we have.
Speaker 2: We're giving balls away or giving short fields and allowing
Speaker 2: what I think is one of our strengths. It's the
Speaker 2: way our guys play, how hard they play, how physical
Speaker 2: they play, to actually be able to benefit us. And
Speaker 2: that's where my belief comes from. Is watching those guys
Speaker 2: do that in their leadership in those moments is you
Speaker 2: know everyone's watching that, and to see that those guys
Speaker 2: continue to perform late in the game that really is
Speaker 2: over was I thought worth pointing out and worth mentioning
Speaker 2: and shows the character of those guys as leaders. That's
Speaker 2: the first thing is you got to take care of
Speaker 2: your own house a little bit and do do your
Speaker 2: job as well as you can as long as you can,
Speaker 2: and guys follow that.
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Speaker 1: coach Brian Callahan. What must will Levice show you during
Speaker 1: the course of this week to have a chance to
Speaker 1: get back on the field Sunday against the Patriots at quarterback?
Speaker 2: Yeah, one that he feels you know able to throw
Speaker 2: the football without much hindrance. You know, you can find
Speaker 2: all the arm angles and different throws, and then the
Speaker 2: distance of the throws, and then being able to make
Speaker 2: the throws where you have pressure in pockets. It's easy
Speaker 2: to stand out there and throw in shorts and just
Speaker 2: toss the ball. You know, it's it's about the rest
Speaker 2: of it. Can you play the position the way it
Speaker 2: needs to be played under durest, which is you know
Speaker 2: you are a quarterback at some point in every game?
Speaker 2: Can he make those throws? And then you know, just
Speaker 2: the haven't been off a bit too? Is there is
Speaker 2: there a rust factor? Is you ready to kind of
Speaker 2: go playball at the level that's required to play at
Speaker 2: the NFL quarterback position?
Speaker 1: So we're gonna see you kind of shut him down
Speaker 1: last week more or less, I did yes, And what
Speaker 1: was behind that decision just.
Speaker 2: To make sure that the injury that he has just
Speaker 2: requires rest. The more you try to kind of push
Speaker 2: through and fire through it and keep throwing it doesn't
Speaker 2: ever give it a chance to heal enough to be
Speaker 2: able to feel good. And so the intent was just
Speaker 2: to say, I know you're gonna be out and we're
Speaker 2: gonna keep you out and you're not gonna throw, as
Speaker 2: opposed to like trying to see if you can go
Speaker 2: and see if you can go, because it's kind of
Speaker 2: what happened coming off the buy with the Indie week.
Speaker 2: See if I can go, see if I can go.
Speaker 2: I feel good, I go, I play, I come back
Speaker 2: the next week. It's like I'm trying to push through,
Speaker 2: but it's it's now not improved. It's only gotten you know,
Speaker 2: harder to fight through because it's it's you get tired
Speaker 2: and it's not the same. So I was like, and
Speaker 2: we made him practice that, we try to see if
Speaker 2: he could fight through it, and then ultimately couldn't. And
Speaker 2: so it was like, you know, we just need to
Speaker 2: just need rest, and that's that's the best remedy for
Speaker 2: for what he's got going, so hopefully that there's the
Speaker 2: time off has been good, he feels good, and then
Speaker 2: we'll see when when we start to throw the football.
Speaker 4: There's a medical rest. But then there's also kind of
Speaker 4: a save you from yourself. You don't even have to
Speaker 4: worry about the mental pushing of trying to get back
Speaker 4: and trying to fight through something. Right, you would think
Speaker 4: that both of those would be helpful to.
Speaker 2: Him, I would think so. I think if you asked him,
Speaker 2: he might he might probably say the same. I. You know,
Speaker 2: there's all these all these guys. They're they're tough, and
Speaker 2: they want to play, and they want to be there
Speaker 2: for their teammates, and they want to fight through injury,
Speaker 2: and and everybody's got something right now. It's just they
Speaker 2: all do. They're all fighting through something, some more than others.
Speaker 2: But that's just the nature of the business and what
Speaker 2: football requires. And so most players, because they understand everybody
Speaker 2: else is dealing with something, don't.
Speaker 5: Ever really want to.
Speaker 2: If they feel like they can help the team, they're
Speaker 2: going to try to go help him win. But my
Speaker 2: job is ultimately to decide whether that's they're at the
Speaker 2: level that can actually help the team. Versus one that
Speaker 2: would would put them in maybe harms way or put
Speaker 2: the team at a detriment because they're not at full strength.
Speaker 2: And so that's I made that decision last week, and
Speaker 2: I'll make it again this week. If it feels like
Speaker 2: that's the case.
Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about some other guys that you have
Speaker 4: some decisions to make on. Guys like Lagerious Sneed, Taja Spears.
Speaker 4: Can we expect to see them back or getting closer
Speaker 4: to practice this week?
Speaker 2: The Jerious is still sort of on the end. We'll
Speaker 2: see Wednesday where he's at. I'm not as optimistic right now,
Speaker 2: but we'll see Taj. I am much more optimistic. I
Speaker 2: would think that TAJA's got a good shot at being available.
Speaker 2: He almost you know, he kind of fought through, repracticed
Speaker 2: last week some and and just felt like at the
Speaker 2: end of the week he couldn't quite go the way
Speaker 2: he needed to. But I thought he was close. And
Speaker 2: so hopefully this week is the week for Taj to
Speaker 2: make it back.
Speaker 1: Well, new linebacker jer Home Baker have a role this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. We'll see how he fits in. You know,
Speaker 2: there's different style player, uh than than than Ernest was
Speaker 2: see what the role is going to be. He's get
Speaker 2: you know, new similar defense in Seattle with with Mike McDonald,
Speaker 2: but uh, see where he fits for us and how
Speaker 2: much he can pick up in a in a week.
Speaker 2: And again last week was just sort of getting your
Speaker 2: feet wet and finding out, you know, where your locker
Speaker 2: is and all that stuff. And so we'll see, we'll
Speaker 2: see how that that progresses. I'm I'm hopeful that we
Speaker 2: can find a role for him.
Speaker 4: What was the final decision on activating linebacker Cedric Gray
Speaker 4: from the practice squad?
Speaker 2: You know, just a young linebacker that maybe and then
Speaker 2: one of those one of those guys that may be
Speaker 2: able to help on special teams with some some of
Speaker 2: the the way he plays and and how he plays
Speaker 2: with some instinctiveness and some speed and all those things
Speaker 2: that might help us. So yeah, it was it was
Speaker 2: time to get him going and see if he can
Speaker 2: help us.
Speaker 1: Do you just say to a guy like Cedric Gray, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we'd like for you to really cover kicks? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: say hey, yes, hey, young fella, here's your opportunity. You've
Speaker 1: been waiting a long time for this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's part of it. That's that's how young
Speaker 2: players in the league cut their teeth and where they start.
Speaker 2: And then you just you gain experience and gain exposure
Speaker 2: and playing the game and then hopefully you can grow
Speaker 2: into a role that helps you on the defensive side.
Speaker 1: First thoughts on Geried Mayo and the New England Patriots,
Speaker 1: your opponent for Sunday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tough team, physical, they run the ball. Their defense
Speaker 2: is still very much a New England defense. I see,
Speaker 2: there's you know, they have the similarities. That's always been
Speaker 2: a good defensive football team. So yeah, you see all
Speaker 2: of the things about New England that's made them New
Speaker 2: England and they look the part.
Speaker 4: Another week, another opponent whose quarterback situation is up in
Speaker 4: the air. Are you tired of this story yet?
Speaker 2: I don't even That doesn't even phaze me anymore, to
Speaker 2: be honest, It's just part of where some of these
Speaker 2: teams are. And you know it's they got a young
Speaker 2: talented player they drafted that they that has played pretty good.
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, you can always you can always
Speaker 2: find to Kobe finding his way into a game and
Speaker 2: playing well. You know, it's just kind of what he does.
Speaker 2: And you know, at least they're not too stylistically different.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not like you're dealing with two very
Speaker 2: distinct offensive pieces. They both are kind of passers and
Speaker 2: have some body to move, but they're their offense won't
Speaker 2: change a time depending on who's in the game.
Speaker 1: Thanks for your time as usual, We appreciate you. Brian
Speaker 1: calliyan yep, thanks for having me. All right. So on Sunday,
Speaker 1: the Titans take on Gerard Mayo and the Patriots. Our
Speaker 1: Ramone Foster was actually his roommate in college, so we
Speaker 1: got Ramone to stop by for a visit. Take a
Speaker 1: listen to this. I want to start with an offensive
Speaker 1: line question about the NFL, and it's about Bradley Boseman. Oh,
Speaker 1: Bradley Boseman, who is an offensive lineman for the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers. Chargers beat the Saints yesterday. Chargers quarterback Justin
Speaker 1: Herbert has a bad ankle. Defensive lineman Nathan Shepherd knows this.
Speaker 1: As Herbert is releasing a pass in yesterday's game, Shepherd
Speaker 1: grabs that ankle, and then after the ball is clearly gone,
Speaker 1: he holds on and maybe gives Herbert a bit of
Speaker 1: a twist, to which Boseman is none too pleased, and
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman takes a line drive towards Shepherd, knocking
Speaker 1: him off and getting a fifteen yard penalty. So let's
Speaker 1: start with the first part for you as a former
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, does Bradley Boseman have to do this?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, yes, seven days a week, okay, and especially
Speaker 3: on game day till things about that one. We always
Speaker 3: heard NFL's a brotherhood, right, there's the ability to play
Speaker 3: against one another, and at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: the livelihood of what we do is what's most important.
Speaker 3: That's the first thing, right. So the defensive lineman that
Speaker 3: grab the ankle, that's flagrant. And I know brothers fight
Speaker 3: all the time, but here's the other side of family
Speaker 3: and brothership too. Brotherhood is I must be able to
Speaker 3: also correct you when you do bad. And seeing Boseman
Speaker 3: do that yesterday, it was the appropriate measure to take.
Speaker 3: When you are a team that's new head coach, a
Speaker 3: franchise quarterback that you must take care of. And you
Speaker 3: see when the play is already you know, the ball
Speaker 3: has already gone from his hands to twist and the
Speaker 3: turn of the ankle, that's breaking the rules right there.
Speaker 3: So because of that there has to be a consequence,
Speaker 3: and I don't fault them. I'm sure he's gonna receive
Speaker 3: a fine behind that, But that's the appropriate measures to
Speaker 3: take right there, Mike. And if you have the right
Speaker 3: type of quarterback and teammate, he'll somehow cover that fine
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 1: So I was gonna ask about that part. So he
Speaker 1: got a fifteen yard penalty, dude, Bojman, he will certainly
Speaker 1: be fined for that. Does Herbert pay that fine? To
Speaker 1: the rest of the out offensive lineman paid? Does the
Speaker 1: offensive line room paid the fine? Does everybody on the
Speaker 1: team chip in? How does that work on a real
Speaker 1: NFL team?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 3: The way that works is the quarterback will find a
Speaker 3: way to give him that money and he'll be taken
Speaker 3: care of.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 3: And what it also does for Bozman is it gains
Speaker 3: more stock for him for everybody in the building. You
Speaker 3: don't allow those types of things to happen. Yes, I
Speaker 3: was flavoring, but what he did was even more flagorant.
Speaker 3: I've been in situations like that where a guy would
Speaker 3: come and hit the quarterback late, and the defense of
Speaker 3: the guy that takes care of you, you must also
Speaker 3: take care of him. Especially when it's a Greages as
Speaker 3: it was yesterday. So yes, the quarterback usually and he's
Speaker 3: a second contract guy in today's NFL, that'll be a
Speaker 3: drop in the.
Speaker 5: Bucket for what he receives.
Speaker 3: Man if here's the other thing too, if Bozeman gets
Speaker 3: a fine because maybe because.
Speaker 5: Of the laws and the rules that.
Speaker 3: You know, coach Rummy, John Ryan and NFL front office
Speaker 3: may have to just administer that fine anyway. But the
Speaker 3: understanding that John Royne also played football and can understand
Speaker 3: context of why a player does a certain thing. Maybe
Speaker 3: in play a little bit right there, but so much
Speaker 3: as game from Bozeman, and as far as his teammates,
Speaker 3: especially his quarterback, and just the team and leadership.
Speaker 1: And who is head coach is Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 3: It was Mike, It would be even worse if neither
Speaker 3: of the lineman did anything. That's the way you asked me,
Speaker 3: what is the football team? What does a quarterback do?
Speaker 3: In those moments like That's where you become closer. That's
Speaker 3: where the fight us versus them matters more in moments
Speaker 3: like that. And if they had had done nothing, can
Speaker 3: you imagine the talking has us speaking about what is
Speaker 3: this offensive lineman. We do call them the big old
Speaker 3: s word that you never call big men at the
Speaker 3: three hundred pounders soft. You know, we beat having that
Speaker 3: conversation because there's a lot of unwritten rules in football,
Speaker 3: the same way they are in baseball.
Speaker 4: So that goes to not only just the quarterback and
Speaker 4: the offensive line. In that chemistry, there's a whole locker room.
Speaker 4: There is a competition of the team or the composition
Speaker 4: of the team. Excuse me, reflected in that one action,
Speaker 4: like he has to do it for the.
Speaker 3: Whole team easily, Yes, easily. Again, it's happened before. It
Speaker 3: happens all the time. It's just a matter can you
Speaker 3: survive those moments where bad stuff happens and then you
Speaker 3: get a fine or you get a penalty and you
Speaker 3: go on to win the game. Those are the things
Speaker 3: that have to happen. But what it does is it
Speaker 3: brings you closer, as that just said, like, you know,
Speaker 3: like the team becomes closer, the offense, like it's taken
Speaker 3: more serious when those types of things happen. And it
Speaker 3: just I've always been told and understand now that the
Speaker 3: leadership and tone of your team starts with those big
Speaker 3: three hundred pounds offensively and defensively. So if you, as
Speaker 3: a big human being, allow your small human being, your quarterback,
Speaker 3: whide receiver, running back to just get bullied and you
Speaker 3: do nothing, Imagine Mike.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if you have a big brother or
Speaker 5: if you're a big brother, but if.
Speaker 3: Your younger sibling gets beat up by an older guy
Speaker 3: or gets bullied and you just walk away from him,
Speaker 3: your little brother's gonna feel a certain type of way
Speaker 3: about you. Where's my protection? And that's the whole embotdoment
Speaker 3: of the position of the offensive lineman. Create space, protect
Speaker 3: and be the guys that lead out front. And I
Speaker 3: think that's what we saw from the Chargers offensive lineman.
Speaker 3: He was not going to take it for somebody that
Speaker 3: couldn't defend himself in that moment.
Speaker 5: Right there, And you gain a lot.
Speaker 3: And I'm almost philosophical about this because I love seeing that.
Speaker 5: I had a guy in.
Speaker 3: Detroit ask me, how do you feel about the offensive
Speaker 3: line and the play? Well, after seeing that play from Bozman,
Speaker 3: I feel a whole lot better across the league, knowing
Speaker 3: that the integrity of playing that position.
Speaker 5: Means a lot.
Speaker 4: That's interesting that you say that, were you feeling at
Speaker 4: any point as though what it meant to be an
Speaker 4: offensive lineman in the National Football League was changing from
Speaker 4: maybe when you played, or from what it has been
Speaker 4: historically over the last ten, fifteen to twenty years. Were
Speaker 4: you sensing a change throughout the league and what that
Speaker 4: position really meant a little.
Speaker 3: Bit, because it starts and it's out of their hands.
Speaker 3: It starts with the style of offense that you choosing to run.
Speaker 3: Back in the day, every quarterback started off under center.
Speaker 3: Right nowadays we see them clap their hands or give
Speaker 3: a cadence or you know, raise the leg as far
Speaker 3: as running the ball, and those guys have to do
Speaker 3: what they're told as far as offensive lineman, and there's
Speaker 3: not much control if a coach wants to throw the
Speaker 3: ball in a running situation, because that's where offenses are.
Speaker 3: They're more analytics and style and ability to be able
Speaker 3: to morph into a different type of offense. It's where
Speaker 3: you've taken away from offensive linemen to where back in
Speaker 3: let's go two thousand and five, the premier players in
Speaker 3: the NFL were running backs. Well, who's leading the way
Speaker 3: with that big offensive lineman that move guys around, So yeah,
Speaker 3: you do have those questions Amy as it pertains to
Speaker 3: what are guys being taught at the high school level,
Speaker 3: college level when they come into the NFL. Do they
Speaker 3: still have that same aggressiveness or is it for neess
Speaker 3: and throwing the ball down the yard the ways been perceived.
Speaker 5: It's still a big man game.
Speaker 3: Anybody that ever watched and analyzed this football like game
Speaker 3: that we play realizes is.
Speaker 5: One with Biggs. You got good ones, you're probably gonna
Speaker 5: be good.
Speaker 3: If you got bad ones, you're trying to find the
Speaker 3: good ones, you know, and seeing that from him shows
Speaker 3: that like God's care still and the DNA of the
Speaker 3: NFL offensive lineman is still there.
Speaker 1: How impressed were you with the Detroit Lions yesterday?
Speaker 3: They had their transgressions, I will say that first and foremost,
Speaker 3: but their ability to stay consistent, their ability to show
Speaker 3: the athletic ability and just force and drive and control
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. I was highly impressed. Coach Max
Speaker 3: said in our pre game on Titan Radio, from right
Speaker 3: to left, they may be the best offensive line now.
Speaker 3: First player the game, arden Key has something to say
Speaker 3: about that, But that happens when you play this sport.
Speaker 3: You're gonna get got, but the consistency in which they played,
Speaker 3: the way they bounced around Mike Amy, the way they
Speaker 3: run up and down the field, and you can see
Speaker 3: them being the first guys out. I even saw something
Speaker 3: that was super unique, and I don't know if many
Speaker 3: people played paid attention to it, but they started off
Speaker 3: their intros with the bigs, you know, like they started
Speaker 3: introducing the biggs, and that crowd got so loud because
Speaker 3: the understanding of why Detroit is what they are is
Speaker 3: because of those five guys up front and watching them be.
Speaker 5: As athletic as they are. Can they Soul I don't
Speaker 5: even think.
Speaker 3: He's six ' four and as athletic as he is
Speaker 3: in as strong and agile, says a lot about where
Speaker 3: it started to change as far as the importance, and
Speaker 3: not just the left side, but the right side too,
Speaker 3: Like I think we're starting to realize that too. It
Speaker 3: goes from right to left. And Detroit probably has one
Speaker 3: of the best models them and hate to even mention them,
Speaker 3: but Indie possibly too.
Speaker 4: You mentioned that Detroit was not without its transgression and
Speaker 4: that there were some times where they got got is
Speaker 4: the mark of a good team, not that they are
Speaker 4: able to play a clean game, but they are able
Speaker 4: to take advantage of opportunities when they present themselves and
Speaker 4: turn it into big plays, big moments and points.
Speaker 3: It is and it goes back to the I'll use
Speaker 3: the tendanc evolves a situation. Right, here's the game maxims.
Speaker 3: The team that makes this feels mistakes win. Mistakes are
Speaker 3: going to happen when you got five guys trying to
Speaker 3: work it once as far as an offensive line, somebody's
Speaker 3: gonna give it up here. There's a matter of can
Speaker 3: we not point fingers, how quickly can we correct it,
Speaker 3: and how quick can we get something good out of it?
Speaker 3: And I think we saw Detroit on Sunday get something
Speaker 3: good quick and bad moments and they didn't let it
Speaker 3: carry over.
Speaker 5: And the other side is they.
Speaker 3: Had answers for you know, the Titans come down to
Speaker 3: score and guess what they immediately do, and it just
Speaker 3: helps you build confidence when this type of stuff happened.
Speaker 3: But that Jamor Gibbs seventy yard runs probably one of
Speaker 3: the more cleanest, just thoroughly.
Speaker 5: Block plays I've seen in football period.
Speaker 3: And that's what good teams do, is be in a
Speaker 3: back and forth and the execution of plays always come
Speaker 3: to the forefront of all things that you're doing. And
Speaker 3: that's what they did as far as that offensive line go,
Speaker 3: because that was just big on Biggs with a little
Speaker 3: contribution from the tight ends.
Speaker 1: Detroit's never been to a Super Bowl. Does this team
Speaker 1: get there?
Speaker 5: They have the makeups of it. They do.
Speaker 3: I do think missing Aiden Hutchison might show his ugly
Speaker 3: head somewhere down the line. But here's what we do know.
Speaker 5: They got the ability to go get guys.
Speaker 3: Because when you have a window or garage door that's
Speaker 3: opened as far as the Super Bowl window, you do
Speaker 3: whatever it takes. And they know what they may be
Speaker 3: missing production at the defensive end. But looking at their
Speaker 3: interior D line, O line, linebackers and backfield. As far
Speaker 3: as the running backs, Mike, we can say all we
Speaker 3: want to about. You know, Jared Goff can spend the
Speaker 3: ball down the field and you know they gotta Ben
Speaker 3: Johnson can call the plays as it all as a coordinator.
Speaker 3: But with those those two groups I mentioned those four groups,
Speaker 3: the interior D line, the linebackers, they got good ones,
Speaker 3: the offensive line, and the running backs they got good ones.
Speaker 3: That's the winning recipe for winning Super Bowls as much
Speaker 3: as we'll talk about.
Speaker 5: Passick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson throwing the football around.
Speaker 1: Yes, they do schedule wise and where they stand. To me,
Speaker 1: they're the number one team right now in the NFC.
Speaker 1: The number two team is Washington. Wow, dan Quinn and
Speaker 1: Washington have if the playoffs started today, have the number
Speaker 1: two seed. They won yesterday with a Hail Mary over
Speaker 1: Chicago Noah Brown with the big play. But most of
Speaker 1: the attention today has been in Chicago about Tyreek Stevenson
Speaker 1: and him busy taunting the Washington fans as the play started.
Speaker 1: Is there a punishment for Tyreek Stevenson for that? And
Speaker 1: if so, what's an appropriate punishment for Tyreek Stevenson today?
Speaker 3: It starts in the team meeting today, putting him up
Speaker 3: in front of everybody saying.
Speaker 5: His piece good or bad, but you gotta be held accountable.
Speaker 1: That he needs to stand up and like he would
Speaker 1: be called up, or he just needs to raise his
Speaker 1: hand and say I have something to say. How does
Speaker 1: that work?
Speaker 5: Both of them?
Speaker 3: And one thing I hated about team meetings and losses
Speaker 3: is the coach's voice just echo. After that, they have
Speaker 3: the little red laser pin and that big screen to
Speaker 3: point out the bad and if I was their head coach,
Speaker 3: Eberflus correct, I am fast forwarding, I'm rewinding, I am
Speaker 3: fast forwarding. I am rewinding and circling you with my
Speaker 3: red laser pan and say what.
Speaker 5: Were you thinking? What are you thinking?
Speaker 3: And afterwards I'd say, hey, what do you have to
Speaker 3: say for yourself? Because the team a good team. It's
Speaker 3: all about accountability, it's all about everybody pulling in the
Speaker 3: right direction. Those are the things that I saw happen
Speaker 3: in my team meetings, so I'd expect something similar because
Speaker 3: they had that game, they have a quarterback that played
Speaker 3: well enough for them to win, and your lack of
Speaker 3: judgment and professionalism somewhat cost you in the game because
Speaker 3: the ball, if I'm not mistaken, directly tipped off of
Speaker 3: his hand.
Speaker 5: I like to call it karma, you know, but let's.
Speaker 3: Just call that lack of focus, because if you were
Speaker 3: in your spot and watching that ball, maybe you would
Speaker 3: have had the ability to jump higher and tip the.
Speaker 5: Ball forward instead of backwards.
Speaker 3: It's and because of how bad that preplay stuff was,
Speaker 3: Mike Amy, I gotta assume that you are the reason why.
Speaker 5: So because of that can be held accountable. It's brutal
Speaker 5: in it.
Speaker 4: It makes my stomach hurt for this kid just thinking
Speaker 4: about it. I mean, if there is a punishment beyond that,
Speaker 4: I don't even want to know what it is. That
Speaker 4: sounds terrible. He did go to social media. He went
Speaker 4: to Twitter last night saw and tweeted an apology to
Speaker 4: his teammates, to the city of Chicago. He needed to
Speaker 4: be more aware. It's I've got it right here. Read
Speaker 4: it to Chicago and teammates, My apologies for lack of
Speaker 4: awareness and focus. The game ain't over until zero's hit.
Speaker 5: The clock.
Speaker 4: Can't take anything for granted. Notes taken, improvement will happen.
Speaker 4: Is that getting out in front of it or is
Speaker 4: that trying to take the easy way out by putting
Speaker 4: something on Twitter and saying that's I addressed it.
Speaker 5: The lot of part.
Speaker 3: That okay, the lot of part, because here's the thing
Speaker 3: behind it. And I laugh at this stuff that happens
Speaker 3: on social media because it's not reality. Because that's sincere
Speaker 3: as he can be. But why are you appeasing to
Speaker 3: that that to be for your teammates, like those are
Speaker 3: the things that have to be said in that team
Speaker 3: meeting to his teammates, the ones that matter, that are
Speaker 3: putting on those shoulder paths for him, like fan accountability matters.
Speaker 3: But I looked at the replies on that tweet. Nobody cares. Yeah,
Speaker 3: nobody cares. And that's the I guess the wave of
Speaker 3: like the NFL in the sense like social media is
Speaker 3: where you go to get your you know, your inner
Speaker 3: thoughts out. Well, in that moment, I probably will have
Speaker 3: just shot away and just shut up.
Speaker 1: So listen to this. If Chicago wins that game, they
Speaker 1: are five and two and they are a playoff team
Speaker 1: in the standings right now. Washington is five and three
Speaker 1: and they are not a playoff team right now because
Speaker 1: Philadelphia would have the lead in the division.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh wow, did not know that.
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Speaker 1: and as the page gets ready to turn to November,
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Speaker 1: to wrap up with some Titans talk from you offensive
Speaker 1: line stability trying to get things together? Did you see
Speaker 1: any positive in Detroit? As the results over four hundred
Speaker 1: yards would seem to dictate, what were your overall thoughts
Speaker 1: on offensive line play against the Lions.
Speaker 5: I'll just put this one out there. Even though it
Speaker 5: worked out.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's ideal to swap guys and that tackle,
Speaker 3: but it worked out yesterday. If somebody had a bad play,
Speaker 3: coach is what coaches did yesterday. I felt like a
Speaker 3: facilitating competition steal. If you don't have an answer for something,
Speaker 3: the best way to do is to put guys in
Speaker 3: situations where they have to answer the call. And I
Speaker 3: thought both of those guys, for the most part, did
Speaker 3: a really good job Johnajuku and Leroy Watson. As it
Speaker 3: pertains to the group in general, you don't notice good
Speaker 3: things out of the offensive line, especially when you were
Speaker 3: on your heels the entire game. What I did see
Speaker 3: and notice was they had the ability to run the
Speaker 3: ball till you had to abandon right. The protection of
Speaker 3: the quarterback was there, and it may have been some
Speaker 3: closess with Detroit gave up four Saxon won the game.
Speaker 3: You know, So there's that idea too. What we're seeing
Speaker 3: this group do, we might not notice until late next
Speaker 3: year or the following year, because to be good at
Speaker 3: an offensive line, it takes reps, it takes time, it
Speaker 3: takes togetherness, and I'll be honest with you, it takes
Speaker 3: bad moments.
Speaker 5: I know nobody likes to live that life.
Speaker 3: But as somebody that played on the team that had
Speaker 3: what some considered according to the three letter analytics, folks
Speaker 3: piff f right like we were bad and playing bad
Speaker 3: made us better because it made us closer. And I'm
Speaker 3: seeing this group yesterday and I know JC Latham, if
Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken, was banged up pretty good. And he
Speaker 3: stayed and Peter stayed, and they were backs against the
Speaker 3: wall and moments to where they couldn't afford another sack
Speaker 3: or turnover, and they didn't give up any So these
Speaker 3: experiences that they're gaining and losses, you hope moving down
Speaker 3: the line they flip. And yes, Mike, I do think
Speaker 3: there's progress to be made. We just have no stats
Speaker 3: to show us that as an offensive line group, and
Speaker 3: that's the difference between the position that they play versus
Speaker 3: what a defensive lineman. They can say, well, I had
Speaker 3: three tackles, so I had two saxes game.
Speaker 4: Right, You're on the sideline, so you are closer than
Speaker 4: most to what is going on within the bench area
Speaker 4: and how guys are responding throughout the course of a
Speaker 4: game with it, and it can start at the offensive line,
Speaker 4: but as it pertains to the whole team. Did you
Speaker 4: notice interactions? Did you notice moments where this team felt
Speaker 4: like they were having those growth mode moms that are
Speaker 4: so imperative to any young team.
Speaker 3: They were, And then that too, you saw even in
Speaker 3: the bad moments, you saw communication with JC Latham.
Speaker 5: I got a point on mine.
Speaker 3: I also got to give Lloyd Cushionberry a lot of
Speaker 3: credit too, He's a guy those two. I feel like
Speaker 3: a vocal leaders on that side of the ball. Offensively,
Speaker 3: they're pulling the rope in the right direction and wanting
Speaker 3: it to be right. Nobody wants to lose. Losing, no
Speaker 3: matter of money, can make you feel good in the moment.
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to win games. And those dudes, you
Speaker 3: see that. You hear a young guy in JC pull guys.
Speaker 3: And I'll even say this defensively. I see them too.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've seen in the past couple
Speaker 3: of weeks, Jeffrey Simmons and Arden Key lead better. Okay,
Speaker 3: they are up. They're challenging the dbs, they're challenging the linebackers,
Speaker 3: they're communicating with their own position crews. And I'll even
Speaker 3: after Arden's first SAC they came off on the first series.
Speaker 3: I spread it down there just to hear what the
Speaker 3: conversation is gonna be. And you hear jeff immediately saying bullyball.
Speaker 3: I think I heard them correctly. Bullyball, you know, And
Speaker 3: that was the mindset. It's just said, when and it's
Speaker 3: a team game and stuff is out of your control,
Speaker 3: those are the things that go under the water under
Speaker 3: the bridge. So yeah, I do see it, and again
Speaker 3: it's a matter of good things happening while trying to develop,
Speaker 3: and right now it's just not a lot of good
Speaker 3: things that you can kind of lean your hat on.
Speaker 5: But the bones are there to answer your question.