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Speaker 1: Hassle back five minutes away two good Monday night football

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Speaker 1: games tonight. At game seven tonight for the Seattle Mariners,

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Speaker 1: we'll take on the country of Canada to see if

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Speaker 1: we get a Dodgers Mariners Paul five Jmac. You know,

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Speaker 1: over the course of a week, I have a lot

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Speaker 1: of opinions, many miss the mark. And this is the

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Speaker 1: moment where I stand in front of America and am

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a dart board. It's called Colin Wright.

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Speaker 1: Colin wrong. And here we go on a Monday where

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Speaker 1: Colin was right.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: I played blind resume with bow Knicks Friday. Remember that

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Speaker 1: We all thought that was kind of fun Blind Resume,

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Speaker 1: and I said, with bow Knicks, he's really good.

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Speaker 4: He's a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He's just inconsistent, but he just became the first player

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Speaker 1: ever to have two rushing touchdowns and two passing touchdowns

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Speaker 1: in a quarter. The last five possessions for bow knicks

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Speaker 1: against the great defense touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.

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Speaker 1: He's really athletic under fifteen yards, really accurate, can struggle

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Speaker 1: with the deep ball is not there yet. But he

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Speaker 1: is a franchise quarterback. And that's all I've said. Where

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Speaker 1: Colin was raw, last year's Washington Commander's magic has evaporated.

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Speaker 1: I thought they'd be a playoff team for a decade.

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Speaker 1: They feel a little old and a little slow. They're

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Speaker 1: now three and four and here comes the Chiefs, the Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: and the Lions. Nothing is The defense's mid run game

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Speaker 1: is okay. Jaden Daniels is banged up. But there wasn't

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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes yesterday where I didn't think Dak was in

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Speaker 1: control of that game. I missed on the Commanders. I

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Speaker 1: did not think it was a one off. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was a new era, and maybe it will be,

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Speaker 1: but it's not now. Where Colin was right, I've said

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay is the second best coach in Pro football.

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Speaker 1: The Rams fly in Saturday. It's a twenty four hour business.

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Speaker 1: Trip with no Puka Nakua, and it was one of

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Speaker 1: the more crisp efficient, detailed game plans. Ever, how many

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Speaker 1: tight ends did they throw to? They had two rookies

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Speaker 1: catching touchdown passes. And Stafford, as we've said, is the

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Speaker 1: best pure pocket guy in the league. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: were watching a well oiled organization against the Jags, and

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Speaker 1: after the Jags beat Kansas City, I said, this is

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Speaker 1: not sustainable. This is not a well run, well oiled operation.

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Speaker 1: I thought, Stafford, if he doesn't make the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: he's the greatest player in this league. Not in the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame because he is magic, missing his star

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Speaker 1: throwing the seventh round wide receivers in London and they

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Speaker 1: were jet laged and got in Saturday for a Sunday

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Speaker 1: game where Colin was wrong. I was wrong on Shoe

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Speaker 1: a Otani. I just said he was better than Babe Ruth.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say he's the best team sport athlete ever.

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Speaker 1: He won MVP of that series for one great game,

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Speaker 1: six innings, two hit ball, ten strikeouts. Does he have

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Speaker 1: the best split finger in the sport? He's throwing a hundred.

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Speaker 1: He had more hits Friday against Milwaukee than he surrendered,

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Speaker 1: and one of those balls that he hit appears to

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Speaker 4: Here it is right hander Patrick dials at old Tani towering.

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Speaker 2: Wall his right field.

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Speaker 4: He's done it again.

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Speaker 5: Show hal Tani to the top of the pavilion in

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Speaker 5: right field four hundred and sixty nine feet, the longest

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Speaker 3: Freddie Freeman's reaction, what did.

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Speaker 1: I just watch? Where Colin was right said about three

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, the Indianapolis Cults are for real. They should

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Speaker 1: be undefeated. They had the Rams beat running back, wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's all his fault, but cam Ward

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Speaker 1: feels a little like Caleb last year in Chicago. It's

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Speaker 1: ugly where Colin was right. Well, we predicted I did.

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Speaker 1: I said Notre Dame in cold Weather would beat USC

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Speaker 1: a first round running back. He may not be Bjean Robinson,

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Speaker 1: The kid's great. USC had some weird play calling. They

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Speaker 1: off that Michigan game. The Irish had three hundred and

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Speaker 1: He hasn't done it in four years at USC where

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Speaker 1: Colin was right, Tua is toast. I did not get

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Speaker 1: at any level the extension. I don't get how they

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Speaker 1: built the team. If you have Tua, you have to

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Speaker 1: I thought he looked frightened yesterday. That you know, we

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Speaker 1: all know he's not a cold weather quarterback. But four

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Speaker 1: times this year he's been under two hundred yards. I'm

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Speaker 1: not blaming it all on him, but I am blaming

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Speaker 1: Quarterback need help, cam wardon Tua haven't had a lot

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Speaker 1: I've seen this year with Tua and with that eighteen

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Speaker 1: on a Monday. All right, let's start. I mean I

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Speaker 1: had thirty seven points in a quarter. That doesn't make

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Speaker 1: him Steph Curry, it doesn't make him KD, but it

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Speaker 1: makes him damn good. So if you could score thirty

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Speaker 1: three points in a quarter as a quarterback. I'm not

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Speaker 6: He's got great confidence to stay in there.

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Speaker 7: You know, the coach has confidence in him, and he's

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Speaker 7: got his own confidence. That was an incredible game. I mean,

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Speaker 7: if you haven't seen that game, go rewatch it. It

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Speaker 7: was absolutely incredible one for the ages. Yeah, they start

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Speaker 7: but it was great play by Bonix and he got

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Speaker 7: that as well. But I think he's a better, way

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Speaker 7: better than advertised runner. You know, the two touchdown runs

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Speaker 7: you were to like lock up one thing something you

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Speaker 7: cannot test for at the combine, it's that no flinch

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Speaker 7: gene that some quarterbacks have and other quarterbacks don't.

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Speaker 6: And I think he's.

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Speaker 7: Weathered the storm of you know, ups and downs. In

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Speaker 7: his college career. He played at a bunch of different places.

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Speaker 7: He's way more mature than you know someone with his

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Speaker 7: years of experience in the NFL. But he's got a

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Speaker 7: got him back in rhythm with some screenplays, maybe even

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Speaker 7: just incredible. I thought both quarterbacks were excellent yesterday, really

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Speaker 7: really fun game to watch.

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Speaker 1: I will say this about Jackson Dart and to your point,

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Speaker 1: I thought. I watched them at all, miss Laying Kiffin,

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Speaker 1: lot of it. He had one really bad pass. Again,

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Speaker 1: it's Denver, it's an aggressive defense. I'm just gonna give

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Speaker 1: you a bad throw. You're not playing perfect against that

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Speaker 1: pass rush forget it. I thought Jackson Dart was really impressive.

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Speaker 7: I mean, and he's given Giants fans hope something they

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Speaker 7: just because he threw that interception that you know, ultimately

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Speaker 7: was one of the plays that led to their loss.

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Speaker 7: Like in the long run, this is going to be

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Speaker 7: great for his career. It's gonna be great for it.

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Speaker 7: Like every quarterback you throw an interception, you never ever

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Speaker 7: forget it. I'm fifty years old, I still remember an

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Speaker 7: from other you know, you know, led me to other

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Speaker 7: big successes because of that one mistake. And you listen

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Speaker 7: to him at Jackson Dart at the podium, he was incredible.

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Speaker 7: It wasn't oh, we can't turn the ball over it there.

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Speaker 7: It was like, no, that's that's me. That's that's I

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Speaker 7: have to do better. Like a lot of I you know,

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Speaker 7: taken blame not we. You hear, we had a way

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Speaker 7: too many quarterbacks at the podium. It's not we, dude,

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Speaker 7: you threw the pick.

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Speaker 6: It was you.

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Speaker 7: And that's what That was the thing I loved about

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Speaker 7: Jackson like it was almost like he was brought to

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Speaker 7: tears over it even day ball, Like this team is

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Speaker 7: going to rally around this quarterback. I mean they already

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Speaker 7: and I don't want to be a moral victory guy,

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Speaker 7: but with a young quarterback, this is something. It's a

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Speaker 7: I thought it was a really great game to watch

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Speaker 7: two young quarterbacks.

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Speaker 6: Who are going to be playing a long time in

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Speaker 1: So I'm interested to hear this. Whenever you go to

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Speaker 1: a game, it's different than just watching TV. Even watch

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Speaker 1: watching Bo Nix and Michael Pennock's live in Husky Stadium,

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Speaker 1: and I sat in a couple of different places, and

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Speaker 1: it really gives you perspective on do they see the field?

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Speaker 1: You know, live is different. So you're live yesterday, you're

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Speaker 1: watching Drake may So on television. He looks amazing and accurate.

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Speaker 1: What did you see that I can't because you're there.

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Speaker 6: I think it's a good team. Patriots are pretty good.

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Speaker 7: I mean I think they're not getting a lot of respect,

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Speaker 7: not getting a lot of talk. A bunch of veterans

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Speaker 6: It's very much a committee offense.

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Speaker 7: Drake's special though, He's got special special throws in his game.

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Speaker 6: My concern for him is just protecting himself.

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Speaker 7: He's a great athlete, and I think you know, even

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Speaker 1: He's throwing to a seventh round rookie touchdown. He's throwing

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Speaker 7: Jacksonville would be better at it, more mature with it. No,

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Speaker 1: Like his buddies on the team don't hang around him

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Speaker 1: But when I watched Ben Johnson watching Caleb on some

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Speaker 7: Well, I think Ben Johnson is some first time head coaches,

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Speaker 6: I don't think anyone's feeling that way about Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 7: Like we're gonna take shots early and often, like it's

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Speaker 1: So I'm watching Kansas City. They've rebuilt their O line

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm like, is that the deepest in the league.

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Speaker 1: were you ever in meetings where people just said, we're.

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Speaker 4: Going to course correct. This doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: This does because I feel like Kansas City is constantly fluid.

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Speaker 4: Back, let him go, they got to bring him back.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well, as as a player, I never needed someone to

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Speaker 6: You know, like we love that, we love that.

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Speaker 7: I thought what was really interesting about the Chiefs, Like,

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Speaker 6: You mentioned it. Nine different guys caught the ball, however, like.

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Speaker 7: You're our guy. You know, we were going wherever you

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: There's just something special about when a team comes together

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Speaker 1: Finally, every time I watch the Packers, they leave me

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Speaker 1: They are super young, like Seattle. I understand it's a process.

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Speaker 1: And then I think, well, Arizona at home, they've got McBride,

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Speaker 6: He's still a young player.

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Speaker 7: I think defensively, you know, they've got a new defensive

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Speaker 7: I hear what you're saying with the Arizona game. But

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Speaker 7: Arizona to me is just always been this like spoiler team.

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Speaker 7: I don't care who you are. If you're the Rams,

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Speaker 7: if you're the Seahawks, if you know, like you.

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Speaker 6: Go down there.

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Speaker 7: It's a that's a tough that's sort of a tough game.

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Speaker 7: Usually it's Kyler and not Jacoby. But I'm not I'm

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Speaker 7: not giving up on Jordan Love. I think this this

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Speaker 7: team will hit their stride at the right time. But

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Speaker 7: I get your fans, I get you, I get your

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Speaker 7: feelings with that, and I'm sure Packer fans somewhat agree

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Speaker 7: with you.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you went to Boston College. The UCLA Bruins,

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Speaker 1: you are bandwagoning.

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Speaker 4: Just suddenly they are red hot.

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Speaker 1: You study, they let go of their coach, they bring

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Speaker 1: in the assistance. They're on fire as a program. It

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Speaker 1: is amazing to watch Sometimes in college football. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: it's a totally different juice, totally different vibe with UCLA,

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Speaker 1: is it not.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, for the record, I am a UCLA parent

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Speaker 7: now and my son is on that football team. But

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Speaker 7: uh no, then listen, it's a real thing. And I've

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Speaker 7: been a part.

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Speaker 6: Of coaching changes when they happen on the fly.

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Speaker 7: I mean it's you either all the party, you pull together,

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Speaker 7: and this UCLA team is for sure pulled together, winning

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Speaker 7: three in a row.

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Speaker 6: I think big newon kickoffs.

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Speaker 7: Going to Indiana this week, so that'll be a big

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Speaker 7: one Indiana versus UCLA. The games aren't going to get

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Speaker 7: easier in that Big ten matchup. But no, it's a

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Speaker 7: real deal.

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Speaker 6: I learned it.

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Speaker 7: I learned it in college with many head coaching changes

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Speaker 7: I learned it in the NFL with head coaching changes.

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Speaker 7: It's part of what makes sports great and unpredictable.

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Speaker 6: And for all you.

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Speaker 7: Betters out there, I would never bet on a team

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Speaker 7: with an against a team with an interim head coach.

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Speaker 6: It's like a blind date. No one loves those going

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Speaker 6: up against those types of opponents.

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Speaker 3: Good for you, Indiana's good, by the way.

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Speaker 6: To put it mildly, They're good. They're good.

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Speaker 4: Hey, great seeing you a man?

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Speaker 6: All right? See you call it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Matt when he comes to Los Angeles to visit

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Speaker 1: his kids as a proud dad, and it is remarkable

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Speaker 1: to watch UCLA. So they the head coach, a former

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Speaker 1: player there, leaves and they, you know, Jerry Neuheisel, who

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Speaker 1: sounds exactly like his dad and looks like his dad.

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Speaker 1: They have just turned it around, just brand same kids,

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Speaker 1: different energy, and that game suddenly got really really interesting.

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Speaker 1: So Game seven tonight, Mariners and the Blue Jays. One

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Speaker 4: Can't wait.

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Speaker 1: We had him on a couple of weeks ago. He

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Speaker 1: was fantastic. Matt Hasselbeck, ohwas money?

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Speaker 4: Colin right? Colin wrong? Threday halfway through Jmack with a news.

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Speaker 2: This is the herd line news.

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Speaker 3: All right, Colin.

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Speaker 10: In a battle of the best running backs in the

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Speaker 10: league last night, Christian McCaffrey outdueled by a mile twenty Wow.

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Speaker 10: Semac was running wild, just great, catching the ball, dancing.

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Speaker 10: It's crazy. He looks way better than Saquon Barkley does

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Speaker 10: this year. I don't know what's wrong with Saquon. We

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Speaker 10: knew that it was a heavy load last year that

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Speaker 10: he burdened but by far, Christian McCaffrey has eclipped Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 10: I think he's right there with Bijeon as the best

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Speaker 10: back in the league. And Kyle Shanahan talked about that performance.

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Speaker 2: He's huge.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he's he's the most consistent player I've been around.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he just allows you to stay on track.

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Speaker 8: He gets every yard in the run game in more

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Speaker 8: and what he does in the pass game just it's

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Speaker 8: sure you're gonna throw the ball to him and not

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Speaker 8: get to complete him.

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Speaker 3: He could be a slot receiver in the NFL. I

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Speaker 3: mean he's that gifted. He really.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, McCaffrey to me are

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Speaker 1: just different. You could put him out wide, you can

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Speaker 1: put him in. I mean he had thirty one total

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Speaker 1: touches in the game. I think he had twenty. I

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Speaker 1: think he had twenty four carries and seven catches.

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Speaker 4: I mean that that to me.

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Speaker 1: Is way too much of a workload for a guy.

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Speaker 1: I don't love that. But twenty more carries in the

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Speaker 1: NFL is a lot of carry.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they're starting to work Brian Robinson and more of

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Speaker 10: the kid they got from Washington and maybe he's up to.

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Speaker 3: Speed with the offense.

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Speaker 10: I'll just say this, they kind of need him because

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Speaker 10: Kittle's not there yet. You know, he didn't do anything

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Speaker 10: last night. Jawan Jennings has a pass go off his hands,

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Speaker 10: it's intercepted. Brandon Ayuk still missing in action, Ricky Pierce

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Speaker 10: all the longest knee injury in NFL history. When they

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Speaker 10: get healthy and I saw they have the late by

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Speaker 10: Colin Man, a new team could use a bye like

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Speaker 10: the Niners now, I mean, they're just bringing guys off

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Speaker 10: the street and trying to plug them in and make

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Speaker 10: it happen like no.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the talented defense alone, Bosa, Hurt,

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Speaker 1: Warner Hurt, who Funga leaves, Greenlaw leaves, they bring in

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Speaker 1: Robert Sala, they're actually okay, it's a pretty darn good defense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you name another defense that, over the course

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Speaker 1: of a calendar year could lose their four of their

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Speaker 1: I mean, Bosa, Warner, hu fung are arguably they're three

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Speaker 1: best defenders for different reasons, they're all gone. The defense

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Speaker 1: has played. I think Sala and Shanahan you could argue

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Speaker 1: one's coordinator of the year, one's coach of the year.

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Speaker 1: I think this is as good a job mag Jones.

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Speaker 1: It's funny if you take away your initial perception of

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Speaker 1: the mean you didn't know he's kind of not sneaky athletic,

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Speaker 1: but he runs in spots. He's always thrown a nice ball.

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Speaker 1: But I mean their offense looks like their offense. It's

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Speaker 1: very Christian McCaffrey reliant last night. But they've done a

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Speaker 1: good job to overcome these injuries. A lot of teams

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Speaker 1: get injured and they just it's man overboard. That's not

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Speaker 1: been the case.

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Speaker 10: So if you're looking for stocks to buy in the NFL,

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Speaker 10: I think right now the Niners have to be number one.

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Speaker 3: The schedule and all those injuries.

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Speaker 10: I mean, they were highlighting this new middle linebacker taking

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Speaker 10: over for Warner. I know a lot of sharp betters

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Speaker 10: last night who were on Atlanta just because of the

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Speaker 10: Fred Warner injury. Right he's out, Oh, Atlanta's gonna go nuts.

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Speaker 10: I was like, Eh, I don't know about that. This

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Speaker 10: new linebacker number forty five on's facing.

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Speaker 3: On his name. He was outstanding last night.

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Speaker 10: So Robert Salah, like you said, probably one of the

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Speaker 10: best defensive coaches in the league.

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Speaker 1: Awesome stuf Rushian McCaffrey has thirty one more touches this

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Speaker 1: year than Jonathan Taylor. Now the difference is Warren Pierce

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Speaker 1: Pittman are more available. So what's happening to San Francisco

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Speaker 1: is they're like, hey, this is what we have. We

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Speaker 1: would not have him touch the ball thirty one times,

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Speaker 1: it would be like eighteen. But you know their takeaway

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Speaker 1: is last night was you know the Rams had won

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Speaker 1: in the day, right, so you're sitting there looking around, going, okay,

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Speaker 1: the Rams have a dob, you know, so you.

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Speaker 4: Got you've gotta win.

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Speaker 10: All right, Let's move to Denver, Colin the craziest game

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Speaker 10: of the day.

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Speaker 3: You touched on it at the outset.

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Speaker 10: The Giants were up nineteen nothing heading into the fourth

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Speaker 10: quarter and totally imploded. Jackson Dart's getting a pass because

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Speaker 10: he was good for most of it, but that interception

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Speaker 10: changed the game. Terrible decision. Here's Brian Daboll at a

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Speaker 10: loss for words.

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Speaker 3: Tough way to lose.

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Speaker 11: The way down to the end, sixty minutes and made

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Speaker 11: one more play than we did, a lot of plays

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Speaker 11: that could have changed the outcome of that game, not

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Speaker 11: just one sixty minute game. So you know it was.

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Speaker 11: It's not one play, it's not one position, it's not

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Speaker 11: offense defense, it's collectively.

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Speaker 1: Listen, Denver got a little lucky on that one touchdown,

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Speaker 1: that ricochetde or Jenner's got lucky to Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: that game ended the way it should have ended. It

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Speaker 1: was wild, you get that. I mean, we've seen a

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Speaker 1: couple of games this year that you know, Tampa Seattle

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Speaker 1: may have been the best game of the year, the

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Speaker 1: shootout Darnald Baker. This wasn't that because for three quarters

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Speaker 1: Denver's offense was in nep I did like both quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: smartly using their legs. Dart and bo Nix are good athletes,

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Speaker 1: use their legs. I've said this for years. The NFL

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Speaker 1: is the windows are small, the defensive coaching is sophisticated.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna need to pick up first downs to help

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Speaker 1: your defense out. And Denver's defense was like, guys, we're

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Speaker 1: getting tired. You got to extend some drives. So I

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Speaker 1: think when Sean Payton leaned into Bow's right, like right

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Speaker 1: here on this video, leaned into it, that's what this

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Speaker 1: kid can do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I kind of wish Gable had gone to the podium

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Speaker 10: and just been honest, guys, I'm messing devastated.

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Speaker 3: We were the better team for fifty minutes.

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Speaker 10: I can't believe that kicker missed an extra point or

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Speaker 10: we go to over Like that's the reality, Colin if

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Speaker 10: a lot of people today on these shows and podcasts

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Speaker 10: are just saying, oh, what a crazy game, Let's be real.

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Speaker 10: Denver was not good yesterday for fifteen minutes. They were

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Speaker 10: outclassed at home again by Jackson Dart who's throwing to

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Speaker 10: nobody's I mean he's throwing up Daniel Bellinger, theo Johnson.

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Speaker 10: Denver got embarrassed. They are lucky that they pulled out.

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Speaker 10: Now two fourth quarters against the Giants and Eagles where

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Speaker 10: they were down bad.

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Speaker 3: Remember that Eagles come back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you make your own luck. I mean they're not.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the greatest quarter by an offense in

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Speaker 1: the history of the league, or at least by a player.

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Speaker 1: So you make your own luck. If bo Nicks wasn't mobile,

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Speaker 1: they don't win that game. He had four rushes, multiple

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Speaker 1: first downs running, he had two rushing touchdowns. So you

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Speaker 1: make a lot of your own luck. And I think

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton also in those key situational moments. Denver always

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Speaker 1: dialed up. I mean, this is one thing that Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton. Do you get into these key situational moments,

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Speaker 1: and Denver Oway was called I mean, you don't know

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. Is bo gonna run? Are they gonna

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Speaker 1: throw them downfield? I mean Denver's personnel, Jason, they give you.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of looks. They're long their reign. Evan

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Speaker 1: ingram Off, Oh.

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Speaker 3: He's a unique He's like I mean, he just doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Look he looks like an NBA guy. He's so big

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Speaker 1: and wide. And Denver's personnel is outstanding in my opinion.

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Speaker 10: Humor me for a secon ranked the teams in the

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Speaker 10: AFC West. You can leave the Raiders off because.

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Speaker 1: Angel City won, Denver two, Chargers three.

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Speaker 10: Big winner yesterday was the Chiefs because the Broncos. I mean,

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Speaker 10: this is the Jets and Giants they are struggling with.

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Speaker 10: These are dregs of the league, I know, and the

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Speaker 10: Chiefs are blasting dregs of the league.

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Speaker 1: In thirty In fairness, Giants beat the Eagles soundly. The

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Speaker 1: Giants have had personnel. The Giants found their quarterback. Giants

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Speaker 1: have the better coach. Giants have the better quarterback, Giants

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Speaker 1: have the better left tackle, Giants have the better defensive front.

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Speaker 1: Giants strangely have the much better culture when you look

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Speaker 1: at what's happening with the Jets.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for that. Digget the Jets.

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Speaker 10: Final story con Let's go to tonight's game. Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 10: Jared got two cowhard favorites dueling it out in Detroit.

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Speaker 10: We're both on the Lions. He's the line has ticked

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Speaker 10: up to six here. Michael Strahan this weekend had some

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Speaker 10: strong praise for Baker Mayfield and how he's performed so

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Speaker 10: far the season.

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Speaker 12: The thing about Tampa, they just keep winning, and then

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Speaker 12: you look at Baker Mayfield and I'm like, this guy,

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Speaker 12: my opinion is the MVP. He's the most valuable player

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Speaker 12: in this league and to his team because at one

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Speaker 12: at points you've had God went out, yet Evan do

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Speaker 12: Abuka has been out. Those are three three top guys,

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Speaker 12: and yeah Nervy and they Bucky Irby and they still

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Speaker 12: keep winning. So a lot of credit to Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 1: I think Baker does the best job of defining his team.

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Speaker 1: He's got a little pirate ship field to him. And

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Speaker 1: that's what Tampa has always been a little they're a

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Speaker 1: little loose, a little bit of a pirate ship little,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean they don't.

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Speaker 1: They've always had talent. I covered him thirty years ago.

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Speaker 1: They've always had good players. It's been the quarterback situation

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Speaker 1: when they have Baker, when they had Brady Brad Johnson

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Speaker 1: for a while, wile you know, when they've had decent

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Speaker 1: quarterback play, they They've always had the players. And I

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Speaker 1: think Baker kind of speaks to their vibe and their

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Speaker 1: culture kind of chill. You know, they're they're fun, they're

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Speaker 1: you never quite know what you're getting with Tampa through

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Speaker 1: the years, they've been involved in crazy, wild games. I

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Speaker 1: listen when they get healthy, they're beat up. They're winning

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Speaker 1: and they're not healthy. So watch out.

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Speaker 3: There's a Niners vibe there.

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Speaker 10: I'm not going to bore the audience with all the

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Speaker 10: against the spread numbers. Dan Campbell off a loss, Campbell

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Speaker 10: and Goff at home, you know, like they're they're really good.

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Speaker 10: Detroit should win tonight. I'll just say this, if Tampa

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Speaker 10: pulls the upset and wins outright, that would be a

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Speaker 10: chocker to me. If Tampa wins outright and continues to

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Speaker 10: do it with all these injuries.

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Speaker 3: Man, that that would be.

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Speaker 4: Something Jmickla News.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by The

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Speaker 2: Herd Line News. Be sure to catch live editions of

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Speaker 2: The Herd weekdays and noon Easter nine am Pacific on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 10: Tonight, it's a winner take all Game seven of the

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Speaker 10: ALCS as Cal Rawley and the Mariners take on Vlad

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Speaker 10: Gerrero Junior and the Blue Jays with a trip to

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Speaker 10: the World Series on the line. Coverage begins at seven

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Speaker 10: pm Eastern four pm Pacific tonight on Fox and FS one.

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Speaker 1: As a hardened journalist, an America's honesty broker, I don't

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Speaker 1: root for sides.

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Speaker 4: Except tonight we finally witnessed it.

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Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles offense totally carried by Jalen Hurtz. They

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Speaker 1: have to because they can no longer run the football.

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Speaker 1: Last year, Saquon Barkley accounted for over one hundred yards

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Speaker 1: a game thirteen times. This year it's O for seven.

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Speaker 1: Is it Saquon fatigue? Is it O line injuries? Whatever?

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Speaker 1: Fifty two yards per game, So it's the fewest rushing

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Speaker 1: yards by an Eagles team at this point in thirty years.

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Speaker 1: So yesterday it was I mean they basically they've transitioned

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Speaker 1: their offense. They are now a deep ball offense. They

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Speaker 1: have long dry spells. It's very New York Yankees like.

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Speaker 1: It is very home run dependent, which they're not very

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Speaker 1: good on third down. They can't run the ball, they're

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Speaker 1: not consistent. But they hit a lot of home runs

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Speaker 1: Devontae Smith and AJ Brown outside of t Higgins and

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase and maybe including those guys, that's the best

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Speaker 1: receiving core in the league.

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Speaker 4: So you hope.

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Speaker 1: Maybe this long ball, home run offense loosens up the

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Speaker 1: run game, but it doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Kind of it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Kind of feel like Saquon is going to be They've

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Speaker 1: shifted their identity. They hit home runs now, no small ball,

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00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: no controlling the clock. Yesterday they barely had the football

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Speaker 1: if you turn it on in Minnesota had the ball.

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Speaker 1: So Hurts on twenty plus yard throws yesterday was five

747
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: or six with three touchdowns. So he proved that he

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Speaker 1: can do it. But it's a they have they have shifted.

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Speaker 1: They're the opposite. The last year it is home run balls,

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Speaker 1: not moving runners across. And here's Nick Sarianni after the

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Speaker 1: win over Minnesota.

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Speaker 13: Find a way to win and then identify issues and

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Speaker 13: get better from it. Like I know how I felt

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Speaker 13: for the last two weeks not winning, So I'm never

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Speaker 13: gonna take a win for granted. Ever Again, I think

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Speaker 13: sometimes in the in the in the midst of it,

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Speaker 13: you can be like, man, like, we'll be there, we'll

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Speaker 13: get there, Like, but we're gonna enjoy the heck out

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Speaker 13: of this thing.

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Speaker 1: The offense is a little doctor Jalen mister Hyde. You

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Speaker 1: don't know what you're getting half to half like Denver,

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Speaker 1: but in the end, their receiving corps is elite. Jalen

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Speaker 1: throws a beautiful deep ball, they hit on it, and

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Speaker 1: this is not what they were last year. They were

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Speaker 1: at times, but you get some you know, with this

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Speaker 1: kind of offense, like the Yankees, you get long dry spells.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't, they don't.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: They're not running the football at all at all, and

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Speaker 1: they're not gonna win time of possession and their defense

771
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: is gonna be on the field a lot. But when

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Speaker 1: you can do what you do yesterday, I thought that

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Speaker 1: was an impressive win. All things considered, forced Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: in the mistakes, which he's prone to do. So the

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears are on a bit of an ugly heater.

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Speaker 1: I said earlier, Ben Johnson watching Caleb Williams sometimes has

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00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: a resting face of discouraged, disappointed. But I think you

778
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: have to be honest about the Bears. Their interior line

779
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: is elite, their run game is excellent. They're taking the

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Speaker 1: football away. And whereas Caleb was the star of the

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Speaker 1: show offensively high school college in last year.

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Speaker 4: That's not what he does now.

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Speaker 1: He is a supporting actor with this Bears offense. And

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Speaker 1: here's Matt Hasselbeck talking about.

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Speaker 6: I think that this could work.

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Speaker 7: But Ben Johnson isn't really the type. Doesn't seem to

787
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Speaker 7: the kind of guy that's gonna change or adjust.

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Speaker 6: It's kind of like a Caleb.

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Speaker 7: We're gonna play in time, We're gonna plan rhythm, We're

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Speaker 7: gonna run my scheme. I'm not gonna put training wheels

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Speaker 7: on you. Like, we're going to take shots early and often,

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Speaker 7: like it's part of what we're doing.

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Speaker 6: And if you want to be on board, you want

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Speaker 6: to do it my way.

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Speaker 7: This can work if you want to revert back to

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Speaker 7: what you did in high school and college because you

797
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 7: were more talented than the people around you, then maybe

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Speaker 7: you're not my guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah there, listen.

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Speaker 1: You can watch Ben Johnson's frustration with the pass game.

801
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Speaker 1: But I will argue all day long the skill people

802
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Speaker 1: for the Bear, DeAndre Swift, Caleb Williams, Luther Burden, Colston Lovelin,

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00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: Cole come Ot, Dj Moore. They've got really good skill people.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the last couple of weeks Yards after the

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00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: Catch they've been top three. So there's a lot of

806
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: things to be happy about. It's a good place to

807
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: be in the NFL when you're in a four game

808
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: winning streak and aren't playing particularly well on one side

809
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: of the ball. And again, Caleb is not getting sacked

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Speaker 1: as much despite what you see there. He's cut his

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Speaker 1: saxon half. He's never been a big interception guy. So

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Speaker 1: it's not like Spencer Ratler, who just kind of felt

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Speaker 1: like he wanted to prove they're not turning it over

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Speaker 1: a ton.

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Speaker 3: They're winning the turnover.

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Speaker 1: Ratio, the turnover differential, they're near the top of the league.

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Speaker 1: They're running the football, they're playing good defense, They've hit

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Speaker 1: some field goals.

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Speaker 3: So again, I mean they're in a good space.

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Speaker 1: It's very clear they got the right coach and they've

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Speaker 1: got the right offensive personnel. I set it with bow

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Speaker 1: Knicks earlier. I said it with Jackson Dart. I've said

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Speaker 1: it with Caleb Williams. I've said it with Michael Pennix.

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Speaker 1: You're not getting any Phoenix to Los Angeles forty five

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00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: minutes smooth flights.

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Speaker 4: All of them have turbulence.

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Speaker 1: You know, Patrick mahomes best talent at quarterback. Ever, that's

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Speaker 1: an outlier. Josh Allen was bumpy early. Bo Nicks has

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Speaker 1: been bumpy. This is what it looks like. Bears right

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Speaker 1: now again, are number one in turnover differential. You'd have

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Speaker 1: taken that ten weeks ago if I'd told you in August. Listen,

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Speaker 1: the run game is gonna be great. I say this

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Speaker 1: with my wife anytimes she's in a bad mood, I said,

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Speaker 1: would you have taken this a year ago? Would you

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Speaker 1: have taken in August? Number one turnover differential? Four game

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Speaker 1: winning streak. Run game is devastating, defense is aggressive and

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Speaker 1: plan well.

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Speaker 3: Check check, check check.

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Speaker 4: You have taken all of them.

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Speaker 1: And you're like the passing game it's not there, and

841
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Speaker 1: you're in a four game winning streak. They're not It's

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Speaker 1: not pretty, you know, And as the weather gets colder,

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00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: it gets less attractive. Wins are wins our three RG

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Speaker 1: three's around the corner of a Monday, the hurt