1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: All right, here we go Pack twelve fans. This one's 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: for you. This it's the Pack twelve Apostles and only 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: the truth lives here. Twelve Apostles Apostles. I'm George Rice Stir, 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: He's Ralph Amson, and this is the Pac twelve Apostles. 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: We just had the conference championship game. We know what 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: bowl games everybody is going to the Pack twelve honors 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: have come out and some of them we agree with, 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: some of them we don't. Dion is in Boulder, Colorado. 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: The college football playoffs, the Heisman Man and the transfer 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: portal is Papa Locking, and uh that's what we got 11 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: to talk about today. Do not forget to send your emails. 12 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm mad. I am am a d at Unafraid show 13 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: dot com and level five star review wherever you listen 14 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: to podcasts, and uh yeah, we will go from there. 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: But when we start today, we had the Pack twelve 16 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: championship game. USC lost to Utah for the second time, 17 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: and I got a call on Saturday night, no actually 18 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: on Sunday morning, I know, no, sorry, it was Saturday 19 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: night and someone was like, man, USC, they're gonna get 20 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: penalized for having to play a thirteen game, and I'm like, no, 21 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: they're not being penalized. They lost the game that they 22 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 1: needed to win. But they're like, but the other teams 23 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: didn't have to play. Now there is an element to that, right, 24 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: But also we've seen teams who've had championship games rise 25 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: and jump into the top four because they got the 26 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: opportunity to play that game as well. So what's good 27 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: for the goose is good for the gander. And yes, 28 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: USC was negatively impacted by having to play another game, 29 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: but uh so were other teams. Like if you like, 30 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta win, and it's the fashion that you 31 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: lose in sometimes too, Like TCU lost by a touchdown, 32 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry they lost by bill goal in overtime to 33 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: a good team. Had Michigan lost the Purdue, we might 34 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: be talking about a whole different can of can of worms. 35 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: If they lose to an unranked perdue Bro, that could 36 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: be a major problem. So do you think USC got 37 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: shafted by not getting into the College Ball Playoff? Because 38 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: I know no, I don't, But I think that if 39 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: USC fans want to have a grievance about this, they 40 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: absolutely can. Um. I don't subscribe to the idea that 41 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: the four best teams should get in. I think you 42 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: should have to play the schedule in front of you. 43 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: But I also don't subscribe to the whole thing of like, 44 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: if you earn another game and you earn the opportunity 45 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: to prove something or in USC's case, to get a 46 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: team back, you should probably do that. Uh. If Michigan 47 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: had got bounced out, then this whole thing would be 48 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: a joke. But I thought that TCU and USC were 49 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: at risk. I really did. TCU gets in, um USC 50 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: does not. They lost to the same team twice, and 51 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: the second time that team they lost to went on 52 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: a forty four to seven run. Yes, so okay, Now 53 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: now let's talk about that forty four to seven run. 54 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: Because USC people very there's a consensus amongst them the 55 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: only reason why they lost is because Caleb Williams got hurt, 56 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: even though he threw for over three d sixty yards 57 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: and three touchdowns. I do not subscribe to a theory, Ralph, 58 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: not even a little bit. And it's honestly, it's kind 59 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: of exhausting because the reason why they lost number one, 60 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: they gave up forty seven points. First, don't give up 61 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: forties forty seven points points first and foremost second of all. 62 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: Utah was busting coverage in the beginning of the game, 63 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: like there wasn't anything that Lincoln Riley schemed up. It 64 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: wasn't any magic play from Kayla Williams, even though he 65 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: did do a good job of hitting the guys. They 66 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: were wide open, like they were literally busting coverage. And 67 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: then Utah stopped busting coverage and USC they like and 68 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: then the other reason, USC did a piss poor job 69 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: of tackling, like they did not want to tackle they 70 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: were except on one play, Oh yeah, when they tried 71 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: to decapitate Cam Rising Raylan go Forth, who who How 72 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: funny would it be if Raylan go Forth ends up 73 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: in Utah because he's in the portal now. But like 74 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: Rail and go Forth absolutely stuck. Came Rising with maybe 75 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: the best hit I've seen this year. That was awesome, 76 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: and came Rising getting right back up was made it 77 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: even cooler. Yes, I mean, part of part of the 78 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: reason why it looks so bad is because quarterbacks don't 79 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: always strap their helmets up like as tight as you 80 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: as you probably should. I even talked to my own 81 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: son about this, so and yeah, it looked way worse. 82 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: But that was a good, clean football hit. Even even 83 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: if he got hurt, there would not have been anything 84 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: nefarious or bad about it. But I just think that 85 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: USC people they cried about the Utah game, cried about it, 86 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: like god, the the first one I saw, like we 87 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: got cheated. The reps cheated as you gave it with 88 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: forty three points. Yeah, I but I also have been 89 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: crying about that. If I was a Utah fans were, 90 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: they could have been upset about a safety that that 91 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: should have been called on on a holding penalty. These 92 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: are packed twelve refs. This is this was not anything 93 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: nefarious against USC. It's just what you get in the 94 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: conference sometimes. So and then you go to the college 95 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: football I mean, you go to the conference championship game. 96 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: You have everything in front of you and you blow 97 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: it like like and they were, and they were acting 98 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: like like Caleb Williams, who have been phenomenal all season, 99 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: was like like he needed to get medivaced. Uh after 100 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: the game, You're like, come on, come on, no, No. 101 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: After about three series of not being able to use 102 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: his feet, he figured things out. He started slinging it 103 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: all over the field that I saw a side of 104 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams in this game that made me like him 105 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: even more. I think public opinion on him might have 106 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: soured because of the nail stickers and the being upset 107 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: after the game, but being upset after the game like 108 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: it happens. He doesn't like losing. There's a lot of 109 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: guys like that that really really hate to lose. I 110 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: saw a lot of people making Max Duggan into some 111 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: kind of a hero because he was crying after the 112 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: game in front of the media. But Kaylee Williams is 113 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: crying with the towel over his head of the bench, 114 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: and you don't hear the things that are coming out 115 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: of his mouth because he's not talking to the press 116 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: or anything. But he's a sore. He's a sore loser, 117 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: and I don't I think maybe some people were projecting 118 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: some feelings onto Kayleb Williams that aren't fair. I'll be honest. 119 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: I think the nail stickies were very corny, and this 120 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: is the exact reason very corny. It was corny when 121 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: he did it against a s U, but at least 122 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't f a s U. It was super corny 123 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: when he did it against Notre Dame and when he 124 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: did it against Utah, who is a better team, And 125 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: we talked about last week on the podcast on how 126 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 1: they're a better team, and you pretty much even called 127 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: that USC was gonna score thirty one points and it 128 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: wasn't going to be enough to for what they're gonna 129 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: give up on defense, which it went that exact way. 130 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: And then when you get blown out and you find 131 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: a football is a team game, your defense has to 132 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: do something and they didn't. Those nail stickies end up 133 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: looking ridiculous. And now that's gonna be part of the 134 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: narrative when you're up there accepting the heisman. Caleb Williams 135 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: has got to have somebody in his corner, Lincoln Riley 136 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: like and Lincoln Riley who gets if someone was to 137 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: tweet what was on Caleb Williams nail stickers if he 138 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: was if if somebody was to tweet Lincoln Riley that 139 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: f USC, he would block them. It's very sensitive, right 140 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: he He should know as a sensitive man that it's 141 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: not be taken well, especially by the Utah fan base. 142 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: Um so I don't know. I and I had a 143 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: bunch of people telling me that I was wrong. Um, 144 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: that's fun. I find it corny, and I think people 145 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: think we're thinking that I was talking about the fact 146 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: that he has a manicured which why I'm gonna Why 147 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: am I gonna fault somebody for taking care of their 148 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: nails and cuticles like I'm the son of a painter, 149 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: I got cracked hands, I wish, I wish I had 150 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: better nails, like I'm not. I'm not faulting him that 151 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: it's the it's the message, because then you're gonna go 152 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: accept the heisman in front of the whole country and 153 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna be talking about how you got you put 154 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: the nail stickers on, and then you got humbled. Hopefully 155 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: he did get humbled. Hopefully If if he does that 156 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL, he's gonna get killed. You really want 157 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: to be that big of a villain at the NFL 158 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: level where you have painting cute little messages on on 159 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: on your nails to call out the other team. Yeah, 160 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: that's it's just a bad look. It's just corny, like 161 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: it's like, it's not dope. And that's who Caleb Williams is. 162 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: He is kind of corny, but he's super super talented. 163 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: He is crazy talented, but as far as the kids, 164 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: they don't look at Caleb Williams like some style I 165 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: con or that like what he wants to be and 166 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: portrayed as in terms of his brand, It's not received 167 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: it with the kids the same way, if that makes sense. No, no, 168 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: And if he keeps doing the nail stuff, he's gonna 169 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna get the Kyler reputation that he's 170 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: the the toddler with the knife, the running toddler with 171 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: the knife in that video. So he's the little kid 172 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: that you can't get control of. I personally, to me, 173 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: he was the best player in college football this year, 174 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: and I believe he deserves the Heisman and I think 175 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: he will get it. Okay, So so how do you 176 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: feel about that? Now? Let's get into that Heisman talk 177 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: right because I was frustrated with the Heisman finalists. I thought, 178 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: if we are like it's so much indicative on where 179 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: your team finishes and all of this stuff, Like like 180 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: Stepson Benet is a fine player, but his wins above 181 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: replacement is way lower than than Max Duggan, Caleb Williams, 182 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: Michael Pinnox, Jr. Bo Nicks, be Jean Robinson, uh you 183 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: know a lot of other players, Dorian Thompson, Robinson, a 184 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: lot of them. So and this year I didn't think 185 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: that we had somebody who was cover to cover, just 186 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: like bro. This is no question your your Heisman winner. 187 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: And this is not a shot against sets and Bennett 188 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: at all. But he shouldn't. He wasn't one of the 189 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: four best players. Like he's literally not even one of 190 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: the four best players on his team. He's not even 191 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: one of the four most important players on on his team. 192 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: Where we're like Caleb Williams the best player on his team, 193 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: Max Duggan, He's not the best player on his team, 194 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: number number one to whine receiver is. But Max Duggan 195 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: is the most important player on his team. Yeah, so 196 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: and and and c J. Stroud. He was really good 197 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: this year. Their schedule was super light and he disappeared 198 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: in a couple of games. So like that, that doesn't 199 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: mean that he shouldn't win the Heisman or something like 200 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: like that. But if I had to adjudicate over the 201 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: whole season and how important this dude was to the success, 202 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: I would I would probably give it to Caleb Williams, 203 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: But then I might be second guessing the Max Duggan thing. Yeah, yeah, 204 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: I know, I I feel you on that. I think 205 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: that Max Duggan put together a season that would be 206 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: Heisman worthy. Um. But but if you put Cayleb Williams 207 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: on that TCU team, They're not having four comeback victories. 208 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: Those are probably two touchdown wins. Like I can, I 209 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: you you are I would say that you are right 210 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: about that. Now, Now, Cayleb Williams have a frustration with 211 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: it being a Cayley Williams can't do what Max Duggan 212 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: can do either, Like where like Max Duggan runs the 213 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: ball a lot and he's built for it, tough Caleb 214 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, he's sticking his face in there like that. Bro. Well, yeah, 215 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: twice this season, and I might be wrong on the 216 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: actual time that this happened, but twice this season I 217 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: felt like after a long run Caleb Williams was physically 218 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: weakened for the rest of the game. Yes, I noticed 219 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: that that when whenever he had like was running around 220 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: or whatever and got winded, the next couple of throws 221 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: were bad. Like when when when Caleb Williams went on 222 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: that long run and they were like, oh the delay 223 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: of game was because he was hurt. No, it's because 224 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: he was tired. Yeah. And when you when you run 225 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: eighty ninety yards because he goes side to side. Also 226 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: you get tackled, You're supposed to do something else that day, 227 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: much less oney seconds later. That's insane. I fell over 228 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: in my kitchen the other day and I was ruined 229 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: for three days talking about me running ninety yards at 230 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: full speed and then getting taken down from behind by 231 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: a world class athlete like No, I'm that's a month 232 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: in a hospital bed. He's he's incredible, but sometimes that 233 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: stuff does take something out of you. And I do 234 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: also have I have a basic frustration with the fact 235 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: that it's Quarterback Award because you have a guy like 236 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Del who had yards receiving and everybody knows he's 237 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: the best player at Houston, and everybody knows the key 238 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: to beating them is to stop this to one guy, 239 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: and he comes back and he does it again again, 240 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna hear his name. He should be in 241 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: New York. He should be in New York, Nathaniel Del 242 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: Houston Cougars. Look him up. If you don't know his name, 243 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: you should know his name, but we only focus on quarterbacks. 244 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: It's insane ent right now. Dion Sanders shows up to 245 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve shows up to the Pack, twelve leaves 246 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: Jackson State and if you want to know my thoughts 247 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: about it, go on my Twitter, go on Fox Sports 248 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: Radio Twitter or Instagram, on YouTube on my YouTube channel, 249 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: George George Rice Stir gave a lot of thoughts on that, 250 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: but just about him in the Pack twelve. His introductory 251 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: like the video that they put out of his talk 252 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: to the team where he was like, Yo, I'm coming, 253 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: I'm coming, I'm coming, basically saying get your ship together 254 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: because listen, things ain't gonna be the way they used 255 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: to be. And he said some nuggets in there. I 256 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: don't think the kids really necessarily heard. He was like, 257 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: we wear no earrings and meeting no no hoodies and meetings. 258 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: I was like, bro, you're not used to living in 259 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: cock Colorado? Are your cold? His head outside? You see 260 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: you may have to rethink that hoodie park. You see 261 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: one kid in the back row, he's like, no hats 262 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: next time we meet, and the kids like you, takes 263 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: his hat off's in his lap. I thought it was 264 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: pretty funny. Um, yeah. See see, I honestly, with those 265 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: type of rules, I would not go to Colorado will 266 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: be too. To be honest with you, I did think 267 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: it was funny because I spent a whole day defending 268 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: Dion because he came in there and said, like, hit 269 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: the portal because I'm bringing my luggage and it's Louis. 270 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate, first of all, that's just how they talk 271 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: in locker rooms, and those aren't his players, and he 272 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: has no allegiance to them whatsoever. But you think all 273 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: these other kids in the in the country are hitting 274 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: the portal because they want to, not all of them. 275 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: They're being told often my incoming coaches like you, if 276 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: you the majority of people in the pack twelve who 277 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: are in the portal, because there are some teams that 278 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: have a bunch of players in the port I'm not 279 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: talking about Stamper, who has no coach right now. I'm 280 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: talking about there are a couple of teams that half 281 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: kids in the portal and they were welcomed to get 282 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: into the portal. Yeah, except for maybe like two of 283 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: them they would have wanted to keep. I mean, Texas 284 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: A and M the best class money could buy. Last year, 285 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: they got eight teen kids in the portal right now, 286 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: eighteen scholarship athletes in the port a little bit different, 287 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: their cases a little bit different. Yeah, but they did 288 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: have some players on their team that were screwing around 289 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: all year. That kind of messed up the culture of 290 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: the situation. So it's not surprising to me that that 291 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 1: you would have that many in because some of them 292 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: were probably told pack your bags, is not a home 293 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: for you here anymore. You're gonna because we're bringing somebody 294 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: better than you next year, and you didn't do anything 295 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: to earn it this year. This is a conversation that 296 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: is had. What I always hate is that the players 297 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: for a couple of years there there was this shame 298 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: where the l years had to be like, after much 299 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: thought and prayer, I'm entering my name into the transfer portal, 300 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: when the truth is they had no other choice, especially 301 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: if there was a coaching change. You can go to 302 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: school for free, but you can't play football. So because 303 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: because they can come in and they can just cut 304 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: you with the transfer portal, you want you, if it's 305 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: not a new coach, you could stick around and make 306 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: their life a living hell if you want to. I 307 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: don't know why you would do that. But you could 308 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 1: just stick around if you want to. And for the 309 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: most part that you know, they'll find a way to 310 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: get you off the team, I'm sure, but you could 311 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: stick around. When a new coach comes in, they can 312 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: just cut you. They have to honor your academic scholarship, 313 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: but they don't have to keep you around the team. 314 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: And so, you know, I did not have a major 315 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: reaction to that because I was like, Oh, it's good 316 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: for people to see how how they actually talk in 317 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: locker rooms and the attitude that coaches actually bring in, 318 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: because that wasn't a don thing. That's every coach that 319 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: comes in. Then the next day they cut their whole 320 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 1: incoming class. The kid two hadn't even been on campus yet, 321 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: the whole class, every single one of them. Oh my god. 322 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that. Because there there's a kid, 323 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: a quarterback that plays at West Ranch who used to 324 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: be at at Sierra with my with my kids. His 325 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: name is Ryan Stop and he transferred out and now 326 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: and he lit it up this year. Now he is 327 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: supposed to be going to Colorado. Lord have mercy. Yeah, 328 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: So they got a bunch of people that were committed 329 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: to a one on eleven school that didn't have a 330 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: head coach. They committed to one eleven school that did 331 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: not have a head coach, and two weeks out from 332 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: early signing day. Should those question yes, because Rick George. 333 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: Rick George told those guys. Rick George told those guys 334 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: a couple of them. He told those guys that that 335 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: they weren't gonna get cut and to stick it out. 336 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: So these players had conversations with the university. So all 337 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: those kids are still committed as of this point. So 338 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: do you think that they're gonna get re re offered 339 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: and Rick George is going to honor that or do 340 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: you think that, No, I wouldn't want to I don't 341 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: want to get there, but no, I wouldn't want to 342 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: be there. But it was like it was like ten 343 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: kids yesterday that were like called then they were honest 344 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: about it on Twitter. Colorado has decided not to honor 345 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: my scholarship. One kid was like Colorado decided not to 346 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: honor my scholarship even though Rick George had me hang 347 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: on for the last nine weeks telling me this wouldn't happen. 348 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: And in that kid's bio and I'm not going to 349 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: name the kid. In that kid's bio is one thing 350 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: it says Jesus is King. And one of the things 351 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: that frustrates me is because you have Dion Sanders coming 352 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: to Colorado saying that God told him to and and 353 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: there's gonna be people outside the Christian faith that are 354 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: watching this saying is is the God of the universe 355 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: order in your leaps or is he ordering your steps? 356 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: Because I know, I know if God might have told 357 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: you to go to Colorado, but God certainly didn't tell 358 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: you to tell this Christian kid who serves the same 359 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: God as you to kick rocks after your boss told 360 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: him he he shouldn't have to. So I spent a 361 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: whole day defending Dion, and then on the other side, 362 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm I'm, I'm I'm a person of faith. 363 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: I believe that Dion is out here doing a net 364 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: positive for the youth of America. And he's been a 365 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: part of my life as long as I can remember, 366 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: my favorite dual sport athlete of all time and probably 367 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: the coolest guy since Movahammad Ali to ever suit up 368 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: in any sport. However, please don't use the creator of 369 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: the universe in my view in my religion and the 370 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: savior of my life in my view and my religion 371 00:21:54,680 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: to to justify doing these business decisions. Yes, yes, and 372 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: Ryan Stops was specifically he said he's taking an official 373 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: visit to SMU this weekend. Vanderbilt's coming and coming and 374 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: well came to come watch him throw a day or 375 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: two ago. They're probably going to offer. He's like, bro, 376 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: I haven't heard from Dion yet as of the fifth 377 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: And he was like, listen, you know what I'm not 378 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: gonna do. Oh and he said Stanford as well, So 379 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm not gonna do. I'm not gonna 380 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: be left out here in the colde I'll tell you 381 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: that much. So I don't blame him. Six players. Six 382 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: players decommitted yesterday, Jamari Holmand committed, uh today, Uh, I know, 383 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: Bryce Smith decommitted yesterday. Um, Julius Coats decommitted. Uh No, 384 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: that not Julius Coach. I'm an idiot. That was like 385 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: two years ago. Um, I'm just uh Wesley Watson. Um, 386 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 1: it's a lot. It's a lot, and so you know 387 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: it's gonna be Um, it's gonna be interesting because because 388 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, what do you do if you're Rick George 389 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: Rick George. Wesley Watson is one of those players that, Um, 390 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know the Wesley Watson thing. 391 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: I wish we could just cut this whole thing, because 392 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: the Wesley Watson thing happened before Dion. I'm blaming Dion 393 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: for for you know, somebody who's going to Kansas State 394 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with um, nothing to do with Dion, 395 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: but uh, Eddie Schultz. You know, there's a there's there's 396 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of these guys. Um, everyone's gonna forget about this. Literally, 397 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: everyone is gonna forget about this a couple of weeks 398 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: from now, hopefully all these kids get spots. I had 399 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: somebody in my mentions it was like, this happens all 400 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: the time. What's a big deal? And not the whole 401 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: class not two weeks before, because now they're competing with 402 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: who they thought we're gonna be their teammates for extra 403 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: spots elsewhere. I don't know. It's a mess, definitely is. 404 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 405 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox worts 406 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app. 407 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: Search a s are to listen live so, but you know, 408 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: he may have an impact on the college, on the 409 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: PAC twelve media negotiations on some level, probably, right, I 410 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: would think so overall overall, I'm not meaning to crap 411 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: on Dion. I'm excited to have him here. I actually 412 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: think that you're gonna have a fair amount of people 413 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: that go to Colorado and they're like, this ain't right 414 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: for me, because I'm gonna tell you I would not 415 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: sign up. I would not sign up to go there. 416 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: Like playing for Dion sounds exciting, but I would. I 417 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: really want to see how good he is as a coach, 418 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: the same way as I would want to see any 419 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: other Like we don't have the sample size for him, 420 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: like yes at the FCS, but yeah, better players, Like 421 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean it was literally like Alabama playing uh Vanderbilt. Yeah, 422 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: and you would be going to Boulder, Colorado to be 423 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: an extra in the Dion Sanders Show. Yes. Now, now 424 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: there are some positives to that in that the pressure 425 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: is going to be on him as opposed to you. 426 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 1: But you know, I do think that that that's going 427 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: to be an interesting aspect of it too, about how 428 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: the the star power is handled with the players versus 429 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: d Colorado having the super liberal Pack twelve having a 430 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: relationship with barstool, which is not illiberal, but it's not 431 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: it's not the it's not the friend of the cancel 432 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: culture certainly. Um, you know that that's gonna be interesting. Um, 433 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: the media circus is going to be interesting. But I 434 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: think the smart thing for Colorado here is when they 435 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: say what's the worst that could happen? It includes just 436 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: being right back where they're at right now. Yes, yep. 437 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: So now, we were talking about the tram Her portal 438 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: yesterday and we wanted to put a pin in the 439 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: conversation for this podcast. So to take it back, Ralph 440 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: tweeted out a tweet that that generated some reaction from 441 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: from people and essentially, tell tell me if I am 442 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: right in saying what you said. So, Ralph is essentially 443 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: saying that the people who cover college football, some of them, 444 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: have transferred so much energy into reporting on the transfer 445 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: portal that that that that that transfers the reaction, the 446 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: negative reaction that so much of the information is met with. 447 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: Is then like it's good for their business, but it's 448 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: like you believe that it could have a negative impact 449 00:26:55,320 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: on how people view college football. Yeah, I aided the 450 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: transfer portal coverage to Donald Trump coverage. Like when um 451 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump comes down the escalator and announces that he's 452 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: running for president, and half the country was like what, 453 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, Like what we don't we don't care. He's 454 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: a he's a he's a um bloviating uh TV guy 455 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: with a bunch of failed businesses who never pays his contractors. 456 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: That was the reaction, the initial react, and then you 457 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: had a sixteen person Republican primary, and during that process, 458 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: the media coverage was so obsessed. It was so focused 459 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,479 Speaker 1: on Donald Trump that it kind of helped raise his 460 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: star a little bit, but at the expense of a 461 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: bunch of people who never wanted to hear his name 462 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: once getting to the point where they they it literally 463 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: did not matter. And trust me, I'm not saying that 464 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: he was, but he could have been the greatest president 465 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: of all time and it never would have mattered. There 466 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: there was six of the population of the country, regardless 467 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: of whether they voted or not, like, hated the guy, right, 468 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: They hated the guy. And I'm including a bunch of 469 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: people under eighteen who don't vote, who just hated us 470 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: for electing him. Right, So that you have that going on. 471 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: Uh And and at the same time, toward the end 472 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: of it, the media was just like, oh, we're so 473 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: sick of Trump. We're so sick of it. We're so 474 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: sick of it. We get that hate that we haven't 475 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: talked about. First of all, you captain, don't have to 476 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: talk about it, and you can't talk about something else. 477 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: You realize that the coverage that you were giving him 478 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,719 Speaker 1: created engagement, which fueled and funded your business. But the 479 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: engagement was negative, all right, So that that was Trump. 480 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: So I'm looking at transfer portal coverage and I'm looking 481 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: at all these companies dedicating resources into covering the transfer portal, 482 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: and all that I see is that people for freaking 483 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: hate the direction of college football. They hate it. You 484 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: have some people that are like, yeah, well it is 485 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: what it is, more power to the kids, But you 486 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: also have a lot of people who are like, I 487 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: wanted the kids to have power, but I didn't want this. 488 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: I didn't want it to turn to this. And so 489 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm seeing a ton of engagement. Set of engagement has 490 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: a has a like it's like the man's strengths fell 491 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: from the same well as as weaknesses. So now I 492 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: love players having that access, and there was going to 493 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: be some negative parts to it. So I I just 494 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: don't let the negative parts bother me because I'm a 495 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: college football fan, and people who are college football fans, 496 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: they're not going to tune out because of the transfer portal. 497 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: They're not. They are they're going to be upset bothered 498 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: by it, but you know what they what what they're 499 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: gonna do is adjust their expectations because college football already, 500 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: like you knew, you didn't get these dudes f for 501 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: a long time, Like you like, they were gonna come 502 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: in as freshman probably red shirt the majority of them, 503 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,239 Speaker 1: and then you would get them as fandom for like 504 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: two years. Even though that they would be there for 505 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: three to five years, you were really only gonna get 506 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: two years to really cheer for them. Anyway. Three if 507 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: you three of you were blessed and they were just 508 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: super good and something happened and they decided to to stay. 509 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: Like if you get three years out of a starting NFL, 510 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: I mean, out of a starter who's a star, you 511 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: have you have been very, very fortunate. So I believe 512 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: that fans are gonna adjust their expectations and maybe their 513 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: attachment to the players that they're gonna detach from the 514 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,239 Speaker 1: players but then still lean into the team that they 515 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: cheer for. And I don't know if that I I 516 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: don't know if that's true. And one of the things 517 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: that we were talking that you brought up was there's 518 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: a lot of NFL fans that said that they were 519 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: done with football when the capital stuff was going down. 520 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: But my whole thing about that is, but the Kaepernick 521 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: stuff wasn't related to the on field product. And we 522 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: see sports grow and drop in popularity all the time, 523 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: and the idea that it can't happen to college football, uh, 524 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: to me, is absurd because you you have a large 525 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: group of fans who were college football fans, and they 526 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: were college football fans for forty fifty years, right, And 527 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: things were the same for forty years, But in the 528 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: last five to ten years things have radically and rapidly 529 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: evolved a lot of college You're not going to stop 530 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: loving college football unless it stops being college football. It's 531 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: still the There are a lot of people the university, 532 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: very universities. It is like the game changed for the 533 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: fans of the laundry who don't care who shows up 534 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: either way, that's fine. But it's getting to the point 535 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: where being a casual fan is harder and harder, and 536 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: you'll at least admit this George without US seven or 537 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: on three arrival subscription, which I worked for an affiliate 538 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: of Rivals. Without a subscription to one of these things, 539 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: it's getting almost impossible to keep up with who is 540 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: on your team getting dude, Dude, I I was looking 541 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: at the portal list yesterday from from from Oregon. Mind you. 542 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: I followed these things very closely, and I was like, 543 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: and somebody finally put out just in a detailed list 544 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: which continues to update at a minute. And and uh, 545 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: you text me the other day and you were like, 546 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: oh Jay, uh oh, do you need a minute to more? 547 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: And about Jay Butterfield. I was like, what are you 548 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: talking about. I didn't even know the kid was in 549 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: the portal that that day. So Ja Butterfield, Bryan Brian card, Will, 550 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: Shawn Dollars, Dante Thornton, seven McGee, bram Walden, Brady Swinton, Jackson, Leduke, 551 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: Justin Flow, Brandon Buckner, Jabrill me De Terrell Tillman are 552 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: all in the portal. I would not have known that 553 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: they were all in the portal but what's gonna happen 554 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: for you? George? And here here's where I'm not sure 555 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: that you see what I'm talking about. What's gonna happen 556 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: to those roster spots at Oregon? Who's gonna fill them? 557 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: Somebody from other teams? Dudes though? Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 558 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: proven proven players. Okay, I am from Shardan, Wyoming. What's 559 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: gonna happen to my cowboys? Who's gonna fill those spots 560 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: for my cowboys? When students? Right? So we get Xavian validate, 561 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: But the second that he blows up, he gets to 562 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: go to a s U and then his backup rushes 563 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: for over a thousand yards this year. His name is 564 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: Titus Swin. You will recognize him when he plays for 565 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: somebody else because he's in the portal right now. So 566 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: if you, if you right, do people want nobody wants 567 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: to be a Triple A college football fan? Do you 568 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: not think? Do you not think? Do you not think 569 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: that that? Do you think it was Mark Emmer alone? 570 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: Because you and I were calling for the same changes 571 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: as as loudly and as often as we could. That 572 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: this pie has grown and grown and grown. But the 573 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: slice that is dedicated to the labor that actually provides 574 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: the entertainment does not grow. And we we we we 575 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: gnash your teeth and toward our clothes, and and and 576 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: curse the heavens, and finally we got that change. But 577 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: do you not think that Mark Emmert had legions of 578 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: people who agreed with him? And I think I think 579 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: that the college football fan that is fifty and younger 580 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: the people our ages saying, well, well, those people are 581 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: just gonna die, so they're gonna have to deal with 582 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: it until they die. Like no, a large portion of 583 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: the people that fund and make college football and made 584 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: college football what it was happened to be in their 585 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: sixties and seventies hate the direction of college football. And 586 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: I believe once they side that college football isn't college football. 587 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: There are people who watch on Saturday and don't even 588 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: check in on Sunday. Those people exist, and if those 589 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: people feel like you are Sunday in my Saturday, they're 590 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: gonna walk away. So all I'm asking for is for 591 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: the people that cover college football that have an addiction 592 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: to immediate engagement to maybe put less attention on the 593 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 1: transfer portal and put more attention on telling players stories. 594 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,959 Speaker 1: Because That's the way that you're going to get people 595 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: to stick around and still root for these kids is 596 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 1: if they know who these kids and it's getting Oh 597 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: my god, you are missing it, dude, what you're telling me, 598 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: what you're telling me. It is a soap proper. It 599 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: is Donald Trump, like you were saying, it's a soap proper, 600 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 1: And we can't turn away. We're like, god, it gives 601 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: us something to be mad about. It's like watching the 602 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: Fox News or seeing it. It's fear porn, dude. College 603 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: is fear. College football was a break from that ship. 604 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: It was a break and now it isn't. Now you 605 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: have to be so invested just to keep that's good 606 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: for the game. That is good for the game. That 607 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: makes people just that much more invested and now and truthfully, 608 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: it's actually uh motivated people. Oh my god, we got 609 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: to start a collective. Let's micro donate so we can 610 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: get our players. Now. I do think that you have 611 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: a very very very valid point about the farm system teams, 612 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: about the na Used, the Wyoming's, the uh you know, 613 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: the the Nevadas of the world, the you know, the 614 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: the sun Belt teams, and that are that when they 615 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: have a player that's a dude. Dude, They're gonna be like, 616 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: I can go get the money and I'm out of here. 617 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: But but the thing is bigger, better dealing does not 618 00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: always work because we've seen plenty of people who were 619 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: in that situation go to places and it don't work 620 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 1: out like you thought it was gonna work out. I mean, okay, 621 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: look at Brendan Rice at you see at at USC. 622 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: Is he better off with what happened at USC this 623 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 1: year then having stayed at Colorado. That's a tough That's 624 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: a tough one because but that's what I'm saying. It's 625 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: it's he's two points. He's two points away from being 626 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: in a college football playoff. He had been languishing, but 627 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: he's not. But that's is I'm talking about personally, in 628 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: terms of whatever his own personal goals are. I get 629 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: that some of it was about winning and losing, right, Yes, Well, 630 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 1: here's the deal. There are a lot of kids who 631 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: will always always have to learn the lesson about pond size. 632 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: They always will, and they do. The Arizona singer singer 633 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: he I. I was like, why the hell is he 634 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: in the portal? He's He's in the PAC twelve he 635 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna intepend Oregon, which I'm which, Hey singer, 636 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: come on, come on. He never got recruited. He never 637 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: got recruited. He's an Arizona walk on, so he wants 638 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 1: to go through the recruiting process. That one. I understand. 639 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: He had a good spot. He's catching balls. Nobody's gonna 640 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 1: take a spot like it's gonna be him in t MAC. 641 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: I get and I'm sure you could part individual situations, 642 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: but you figure, all these kids are supposed to be 643 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: learning this this big fish in a small pond lesson 644 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: when they come from their high schools, if they're not 645 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: at a at a super school or a private school, 646 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 1: at recruits or whatever, that they are the big fish 647 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: in the small pond. And then they learned that lesson 648 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: by going to college and realizing that there's dudes everywhere. 649 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: But when you go to a place, like you said, 650 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: Na you were Wyoming or whatever, you don't necessarily learn 651 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: that lesson because you're still performing at a high level. 652 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: You want to see if you can chat It's just 653 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: like Dion did, Just like Dion from Jackson States, Colorado. 654 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: You want to see if you can challenge yourself at 655 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: the highest level. I get that. However, however, it will 656 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: come at the cost of alienating fans. It just will. 657 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 1: If you are a feeder team, it's gonna be harder 658 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: and harder to uh. And you can always energize a 659 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: fan base with a coaching search and YadA, YadA YadA. 660 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: But I'm talking about these donors who never wanted it 661 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: to go in this direction. Some people are gonna be 662 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: in and they're gonna donate to n I l and 663 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: stuff like that, But I do think a lot of 664 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: people are gonna walk away from the game of college 665 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: football because it wasn't the game that they loved. Nope. 666 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 1: So you don't believe it. You don't see You see 667 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: it on the timeline every day that people don't like 668 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: the direction of college football. But you think they're gonna 669 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: spend the next twenty years complaining and check in every Saturday. Um. 670 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: It is just like what happens anytime there is a 671 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: ton of significant change, there is Dude. I was reading 672 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 1: papers about what happened when when seatbelt became mandatory, Like 673 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: people were outraged, and that was just one change. When 674 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: they allowed I remember when they stopped allowing you to 675 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: smoke in buildings. Oh it was outraged. Like like any 676 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: time that there is major and significant change, there's always 677 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: pushed back. But you know what, dude, there were there 678 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: were there were people that are like, oh they expanded playoff, 679 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm out on at the regular sey Bro. You will 680 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: you will be okay, you will adjust, It will be. 681 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: We're in the rip the band aid off phase when 682 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: when you rip a band aid off, it still hurts 683 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: and you're like, and then I'll tell you that, okay, okay, 684 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm better now, as opposed to if you slowly pull 685 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: that thing off. Listen, we are in the rip the 686 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: band aid off phase and in a year this will 687 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: two years, this will be the new normal and everybody 688 00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: will adjust until some other like a seismic change happens 689 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: in ten years whatever that. Maybe Fox Sports Radio has 690 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all 691 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and 692 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: within the I Heart Radio app search f s R 693 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,479 Speaker 1: to listen live. Well, I don't think things are gonna 694 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: go back. I don't think things are gonna go back 695 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: at all. I'm not. What I'm saying is what I'm 696 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,879 Speaker 1: saying is if you are a media or content creating entity. 697 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: Do not sacrifice the long term health of the business 698 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: for short term engagement. Um, we talked about the transfer portal. 699 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: Maybe it's fine, it's fine, it's fine to talk about it. 700 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: But the way that these some some of these people 701 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: are leaning in to the thing that is making people 702 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 1: say they're gonna quit. I believe these people. I believe them. 703 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: I do not believe them. You need more people, all right. Um, 704 00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:02,919 Speaker 1: the conference put out it's it's a awards for Pack 705 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: twelve Coach of the Year. There are conference teams. Now. 706 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:16,280 Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, there were no no Arizona people on the 707 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: All Pac twelve teams. We got a hunter, oh Arizona 708 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 1: like Wildcats? Yes, yeah, that especially offense, that makes no sense. Yeah. 709 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: And on an Arizona State got to they got a 710 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: punter and Xavian Valadae on second team you had, Um, 711 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 1: who else was under? Oh Colorado? Did they have anybody? 712 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: Uh no? No, Yeah, Colorge Colorado wasn't represented. And that 713 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: was it. Those are the only people that got shut out. 714 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: But before we get to the actual players, Coach of 715 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: the Year, co Coach of the Year, Hayland Boor and 716 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 1: Jonathan Smith, Are you okay with that. Um, sure, it 717 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: would not have been a code for me. Who's your 718 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: coach of the year, Jonathan Smith? Dude, he won nine 719 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: games without a quarterback, like I think like they but 720 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 1: I think they also did what was probably expected of them. 721 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 1: Nobody expected them to win nine games. Nobody expected them 722 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: to beat Oregon like like like some of like. Some 723 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: of it was them going for two to beat Stanford, 724 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: the miracle to beat Oregon like. Granted, some of that happened, 725 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 1: but but Klin de Boor pretty much inherited a good 726 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: a solid base of a roster, got Michael Pittock juice, 727 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: So I'm not diminishing anything that he. I thought he 728 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: did a fantastic job. And I knew that that Nebraska 729 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: was going to be trying to court him and that 730 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: Washington was gonna have to give him a new contract 731 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: all damn ready. But I thought, I'm not a co guy, 732 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 1: so I'm picking one, and my one would have been 733 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: Jonathan Smith and then Kennan de Board two. Okay, I 734 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: do not have an issue with with them splitting. Um, 735 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: I think the coach of the Year is probably um, 736 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: you could argue Kyle Winningham but also recovering from mistakes 737 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: that Kyle Winningham made so so yeah, but now I 738 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 1: I don't have an issue with that. Um, what do 739 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 1: you think offensive player of the year, Caleb Williams? You're 740 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: good there since he's probably what we're what we're like 741 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: my other options, I mean, your guy bo and Michael 742 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: pennockx Jr. Had massive years. Yeah, but but I'm a 743 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 1: lean into the guy who ended up in the conference 744 00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: he freature game and who was absolutely like the numbers 745 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 1: aren't saying he was really good. Like, I have no 746 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: problem with Caleb Williams as player as offensive player of 747 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:12,280 Speaker 1: the year. Uh tuli two Polo two was like super obvious? 748 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: Yeah that was that was that other news water is wet? 749 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Freshman of the Year I thought was this 750 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,760 Speaker 1: was a little scandalous. First of all, I thought Damien 751 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 1: Martinez was the most over awarded player in the conference. 752 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: Like him, like what he's done, But I would not 753 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 1: have made him Freshman of the year. Okay, who would 754 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:41,760 Speaker 1: you have given it to? Your boy? Uh at Arizona, Yes, 755 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: led the conference and receiving tea mac tea. Mack will 756 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: should have been the offensive freshman of a year. One 757 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:59,839 Speaker 1: hundred percent. Yes, so and Damien Martinez was good. But yeah, no, no, yeah, 758 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 1: he Damian Martinez. Like in the in the presentation of 759 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 1: the award to Damian Martinez, they said that he was uh. 760 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: They said he needs thirty yards to become the fourth 761 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 1: os U freshman to reach a thousand. Like cool, but 762 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: he didn't get it yet. We already gave him the 763 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 1: award for something he might do in the bowl game. 764 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: So I didn't like that defensive Freshman Player of the 765 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 1: Year Lander Burton. Sure, yeah, yeah, that was that was 766 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: exactly my sure, Okay, there were there weren't a ton 767 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 1: of guys that like that that performed as a freshman 768 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. You could have 769 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 1: went with uh uh David Hicks over at Washington State. Yeah, 770 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 1: I thought that I could have made a case for 771 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: him as well. Yeah. Uh. With the All conference teams, 772 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: I want to point something good out before we complain. 773 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,839 Speaker 1: The dbs on the first team are dude. That's there's 774 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 1: four dudes like that is a good if you put 775 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: rolled out Clark Phillips, Christi Gonzalez, Macai Blackman, and Region right, Like, 776 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: give me that as an NFL secondary m bro bro 777 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 1: that yes, yes, because Gonzales is a surefire first rounder. 778 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 1: You have Clark phil is probably the second best defensive 779 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: player in the conference. Oh, Ren Rice pretty pretty damn good. Bro, 780 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: he's up there. He's up there for sure. And and 781 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: I think that all three and all I think that 782 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,720 Speaker 1: of those four, the Mackay Blackton black black Man is 783 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 1: is the worst of the four. But that but that's 784 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:54,280 Speaker 1: like I'm using the word worst, but he was freaking fantastic. Yeah. Uh, 785 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 1: Now to complain Travis di and Xavian Valada, Oh my god, 786 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,399 Speaker 1: are gonna be mad at Dave Martinez for the rest 787 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 1: of their life? Bro Over? Oh lord, I just are 788 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 1: you talking about Bucky Irving? Yeah? You I'll throw Bucky 789 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: Irving in there looking at giving a side out of 790 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: Damian Martinez. I take any one of those three running 791 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: backs first team over Damien Martinez, who will have his day. Yeah. 792 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm trying not to disrespect Daman Martinez, but like a 793 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,879 Speaker 1: su was garbage. If if it wasn't for Xavian validation, Dude, 794 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:36,240 Speaker 1: he was a one man. He's a monster. Yeah you said, 795 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: you said monster. I couldn't hear because I was talking 796 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: at the same time. First thing is sounded like you said, 797 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: is his mom's here, His mom's here. She wants to 798 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 1: talk to them, She wants to talk to George cleaf 799 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 1: Cup right now. How do you feel about the White Outs. 800 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: I didn't like Jordan Jordan Addison in there only because 801 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 1: not because he's not spectacularly talented, he just missed a 802 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: lot of time. Yeah, I would say that. Probably the 803 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:12,880 Speaker 1: funniest thing to me is Jacob Cowing Honorable mention. Jacob 804 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: Jacob Cowing is not first team or second team. They've 805 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 1: based that a lot on talent as opposed like like 806 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: NFL talent and hype as opposed to actual production. Yeah, 807 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 1: I don't. I like Singer, but I like Cowing more. 808 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 1: And Singer got second team and they probably weren't gonna 809 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,799 Speaker 1: put three. Um Mac, I don't team Mac didn't even 810 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: get honorable mention. That's bro. But but we see this 811 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,959 Speaker 1: every year where like the defensive Freshman of the Year 812 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 1: wasn't even on the Like the defensive freshman of the year, 813 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: who who was it? It was either Soul It might 814 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 1: have happened to Seul and to Uh and to Uh. 815 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 1: The kids that set the Giants now from Oregon, from 816 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,800 Speaker 1: Oaks Oaks Christian. Uh yeah, yeah, I think that that 817 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 1: happened to both of them, where they were packed to 818 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 1: a freshman of the year and then don't end up 819 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 1: and then some other freshman ends up on like second team, 820 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: and you're like, wait, what, how's it possible? Um? I 821 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 1: hate it. I absolutely hated been been your check at 822 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: second team tight end. Hated it. Who who would you have? Uh? 823 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:42,040 Speaker 1: I would have taken um literally any of the any 824 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 1: of the Oregon uh, either Motavao or Ferguson, but probably 825 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 1: ferg Ferguson. He's a devastating blocker and he catches the 826 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: ball runs, so I think that they're both better than him. Okay, um, 827 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,840 Speaker 1: I I do want to throw in only so I 828 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 1: don't want to get get too much because they how 829 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: do they have seven old lignmen on first team? Six? 830 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 1: It's six old linemen on first team. So to me, 831 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 1: the two best offensive lines in the conference were U 832 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 1: c l A and Oregon, so I wanted to see 833 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: some representation from U c l A on Here they 834 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: they They got one guy second team, which I thought 835 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 1: was pretty wild. Here is the other one though. How 836 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 1: much did we dump all over USC's offensive line recruiting 837 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:42,319 Speaker 1: under Clay Hilton. Oh constantly right, it said, none of 838 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 1: those guys are ever gonna work out. They're all three stars. 839 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,839 Speaker 1: Andrew Vorhes in a year where they had pretty good 840 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 1: old line play in the Pact twelve, I wanted to 841 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,120 Speaker 1: give a shout out to him because he he you know, 842 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 1: he got first team. And Brett Nealin, who was actually 843 00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: a really high level recruit UM but it's very small 844 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: um and got hurt in the PACTUL championship game. I 845 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 1: love the way he played this year, and so I 846 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: wanted to give him a shout out as well. On defense, 847 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 1: I thought Oregon kind of was a disappointment this year, 848 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 1: and so was Washington UM, and so to not have 849 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: any Oregon, one Oregon player on the first team defense 850 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:24,840 Speaker 1: is understandable. But Washington had two players to d Lineman. 851 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: That kind of surprised me because they're because their defense 852 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 1: was a sieve, yes, and they would have been better 853 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,439 Speaker 1: had and I love Braylan Trice, but like they would 854 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 1: have been better if they had actually gotten to the 855 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 1: court early in the season, had gotten to the quarterback 856 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 1: a little bit more. They kind of came on as 857 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,840 Speaker 1: the the season went on, but overall, this is a 858 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 1: better year than most usually packed voters really messed this 859 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 1: up and you're like, how did you do that? Yeah? 860 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,400 Speaker 1: Running back, running back to my primary issue. Um, a 861 00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 1: lot of good running backs and to not even and 862 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 1: then and then the te Max thing, like did what 863 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 1: did Team Max due to people? Yeah, he was the 864 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 1: best I think the highest, yes in in Arizona history. 865 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 1: It might have been the highest rate of recruit to 866 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:20,919 Speaker 1: go to a Pack twelve school. No, No, pretty pretty sure? 867 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 1: Now hold up, I'll check that. Check no, go on, 868 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,320 Speaker 1: go on, I can. I can check check that super easy. 869 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 1: I have that right up on my on my handy dandy. 870 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: Oh if I clicked the right button. All right, Um, 871 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,279 Speaker 1: now while I'm looking that up, So so if I 872 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:43,719 Speaker 1: go back to two, if if my handy dandy, Okay, So, 873 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 1: highest rated Pack twelve recruit was Joshua worked Joshua Connorley 874 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: who went to Oregon. And then after that, Oh my god, 875 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: it's just Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Georgia. I'm guessing. I'm guessing 876 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 1: you're on Yes, Okay, I'm on Rivals obviously. Company man. 877 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 1: He is the hot He was the number twelve overall 878 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: player in the country. He was the highest rated player 879 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 1: to commit to a pactage and then and then he 880 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 1: was on on on a Oregons thing too. Was he 881 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 1: a four star or five star? Four star? Okay? So 882 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 1: t mac four star, five star on Rivals on Rivals, 883 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 1: the highest rated kid to come in, I would say, 884 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 1: exceeded expectations. Oh my god, and gets no and gets 885 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:41,320 Speaker 1: no postseason awards from the pactual media. That is how 886 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 1: you screw up your job. Your job is to acknowledge 887 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 1: the like for the help. Yeah, but the coaches vote, Oh, 888 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,720 Speaker 1: fire everybody? Then who what coaches? Herm's not even here anymore? 889 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 1: Who they Who? Who's voting? Who voted for Stanford and 890 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 1: who voted for uh they chase down Carl Durrell? Oh 891 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,360 Speaker 1: my god, who the hell is voting for this stuff? 892 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 1: How did you think about that? That'ss three fire coaches, 893 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: sorry to fire coaches when resigned coach. Hey, So, just 894 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,279 Speaker 1: to touch on Stanford, who would you like to see 895 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 1: at that job? Wish listed? Don't even be realistic, Chip 896 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:36,439 Speaker 1: Kelly or um Chris Peterson. I would love to see 897 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:46,280 Speaker 1: hardball win a national championship and then go back. Okay, 898 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 1: so if he wins a national championship, obviously Michigan fans 899 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 1: will be over the moon, especially with with how they 900 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,399 Speaker 1: treated him, and that that's why you gotta get out. 901 00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 1: He's gotta leave. Bro if he leaves, well, actually, if 902 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 1: he leaves, will will they be upset? Or would they 903 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: feel like Lebron? I mean Cleveland fans when Lebron left, 904 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 1: probably that probably that I eventually, but I it's never 905 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,800 Speaker 1: gonna get better. Yeah, it's never gonna get better. It 906 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 1: would be like if James Franklin one at Penn State. 907 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh lord, hemmer get out of there 908 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:28,360 Speaker 1: immediately before it goes left to quote tyrese ejecto sekkus. 909 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 1: Oh all right, that is the Pac Twolve Afossils for 910 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 1: the day. I'm George Riser, He's Ralph Adams and peace out. 911 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:38,359 Speaker 1: Catch you next week.