1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George and area 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: with Carol. I'll be back with us our latest work, 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: Wisdom from the Spirit World. 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 3: Carol, welcome back, Good evening, George. 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: Good to have you with us. A great spiritual medium 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: and author that you are. You've been the bridge between 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: heaven and Earth and over fourteen thousand groups and readings. 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 2: I bet that number is. 10 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: Even higher now it is, that's an approximation. 11 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: Well, good for you. Let's do. 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 3: Not a whole lot as far as you know, producing 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 3: a new book, although I'm working on that now. As 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 3: you know, that takes time, and I continue to do 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: readings and mediumship. 16 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: Good for you, Good for you. Did The spirits use 17 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: dreams a lot to communicate with us. 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 3: They do, that is one of the ways. And the 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: reason for that is is because it's easier. Simply put, 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: it's easier for them to reach us that way. And 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: if we're talking about deceased loved ones, it's really at 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: their discretion. I've discovered that we can't really initiate that. 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 3: In other words, the dreamer can't make that happen. That's 24 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 3: usually always at their discretion. Now there's also communication with 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: our spirit guides, those souls who help us on our pathway, 26 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: and I have personally had experiences with that. It's fascinating 27 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: and not even knowing who these folks really are, but 28 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: having an interchange with them. In exchange and the spiritual 29 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: communication that takes place is it's really emanating from outside 30 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: of the rational mind, So it's not coming from our 31 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: you know, our thinking mind. It's coming from the soul 32 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: itself or the connection the awareness of the soul. 33 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: Which is very deep by that happening that way, isn't it? 34 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: It is, And it's something that there are many different 35 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: types of those types of dreams, but it's something that 36 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: once this occurs, you won't forget it. They're pretty profound 37 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: and they oftentimes communicate information in a way that you know, 38 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: we don't normally get and it's from that very profound 39 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 3: and deep level of the spiritual self. 40 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 2: Carol, When we talk about spiritual communication, what do we mean? 41 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: So it's just that it's information that we're getting, we're 42 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: receiving that's emanating from outside of our rational mind, so 43 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: from the unconscious, which is actually part of everything. You know, 44 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: we kind of are a part of that. The totality 45 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: of consciousness and our subconscious mind is part of that. 46 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: And so when we wink up in that way, when 47 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 3: we are receiving information in that way, we can receive 48 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: information from that higher source. 49 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: Carol's website soul Visions dot that is linked of at 50 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: coast tocostdam dot com. How did you get involved in 51 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: all of this in the first place. 52 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: You mean, in being a medium? Yeah, well, it's kind 53 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: of interesting. It was through a very bad situation in 54 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: my life, and you know, kind of a catastrophe and 55 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: it was a fire, and it burned me out of 56 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: the business that I was operating, and for about a 57 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: year or so, a little bit less than that, maybe 58 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: ten months or so, I floundered around and had no 59 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 3: idea what I was to do with my life. And 60 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 3: this was about thirty years ago that this occurred. And 61 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: I got a phone call and the phone call changed 62 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: my life because it was from a friend who's no 63 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: longer with us, and she invited me to a metaphysical 64 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: center in a small town near me, and I started 65 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 3: taking classes there and then I took other classes and 66 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 3: I began doing healing work, hands on healing, and that 67 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: took me into speaking mediumship and from there it's been 68 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: it's just blossomed. It's been one thing after another, writing books, 69 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: doing a lot of media. So it really came out 70 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: of something that was very bad for me, which that happened. 71 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: Sometimes we can make something positive out of you know, 72 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: it changes our life pathway, and certainly that fire changed 73 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: the pathway of my life. 74 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: Did you escape the fire unscathed personally? 75 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, This was in the middle of the night, so 76 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: I wasn't there. So I got a phone call about 77 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: four a m. And you know, there was really nothing. 78 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: The building was still there. I was an electrical fire 79 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: and one of the lights that we had there arcd 80 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: and it ignited a couch that we had there, and 81 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: so that took me out of that and so at 82 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: the time it was very devastating. But as I'm sure 83 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 3: some of your listeners now that out of a tragedy 84 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: like that or something very painful, something good can come. 85 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: And sometimes we need that extra kick, you know, from 86 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: God or the universe or spirit to move us in 87 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: a different direction. I believe in my heart that that's 88 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: really what happened there when. 89 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: We talk about spiritual dreams, Carol, what are they and 90 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 2: are there various types? 91 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, there are several different types. And one of those 92 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,239 Speaker 3: is and I'm sure some listeners have had these, it's. 93 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: Precognizance, oh sure. 94 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: Of knowing things ahead of time. And my personal theory 95 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 3: on that is that that prepares an individual for whatever 96 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 3: it is. So it could be the death of somebody, 97 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: it could be something in the outer world, you know, 98 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 3: something that is very life changing. So having this knowledge 99 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: ahead of the event I call precognizance. There's also spiritual study, 100 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: so when we actually travel and go to a school 101 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: of sorts in the spirit world and more learning things. 102 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: I've talked to many of my clients that have had 103 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: those sorts of things happen. We can also have prior 104 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: lifetime dreams, so I call those bleed throughs, and we 105 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: actually will know, you know, something will come up, usually 106 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: a theme from prior lifetime, something that perhaps we need 107 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: to do more work on in our current incarnation. But 108 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: we flash back to there because again that stored in 109 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: our subconscious in those things called I call them the 110 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: Acashic files. A lot of people have called them the 111 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: Acashic records, but it's the totality of everything that the 112 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 3: soul has done, So depending upon what comes up, we 113 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: could have that sort of prior lifetime flashback. Then there's 114 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: astral travel, and that's when we're actually coming out of 115 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: the body and we're traveling. Our consciousness is traveling and 116 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: we're going to a location and we're able to see 117 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: it from that higher perspective and we're able to know 118 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 3: things that without physically traveling there. And then there's this 119 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 3: very interesting thing that I've had happen, this phenomena of 120 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 3: sacred geometry, and that's where we're actually seeing geometrical shapes, 121 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 3: perhaps color, and there's information contained within those geometrical designs, 122 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: and I've had that happen. It doesn't happen frequently, but 123 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: when it does, it's through clairvoyance, which is seeing in 124 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: the mind's eye, and my theory on it is that 125 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 3: there's some sort of higher information from the soul being 126 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: communicated through that geometrical design. 127 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: It's fascinating. You know, a lot of times our dreams 128 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: are based on events that happen when we're awake. A 129 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: lot of times they're not. Well, what does that tell 130 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: you about where dreams are centered? And focused Carol. 131 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, we can have dreams that are based on 132 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: what happened during the day or something that we need 133 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: to rationally process or emotionally process. Those I feel are 134 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: coming more from our day to day living and from 135 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 3: our rational mind. Spiritual dreaming is much deeper than that, 136 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 3: so we can have both of those. With spiritual communication, 137 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 3: we're actually connecting with that part of us that is 138 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 3: indestructible upon death, and that's the soul itself and that 139 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 3: core consciousness. So those two types are the types that 140 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 3: people have. I would say probably that it's much more 141 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: common to have, you know, from our rational mind and 142 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: so forth. But these other things, when they happen, are 143 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: to me personally, when it's happened to me, very life 144 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 3: changing and can really create a breakthrough for us on 145 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: some level our spiritual growth. 146 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: Give us some of the examples if you can, of 147 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: spiritual communication during the dream state. 148 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 3: Well, this one is really interesting that I personally have 149 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 3: had and this was last year that this occurred, and 150 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 3: it was right upon falling asleep. I suddenly found myself 151 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: in a place and I'm just going to call it 152 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: a place because I have no idea where it was. 153 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: It was definitely not here on the earth. And there 154 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 3: were certain forms there. They were shapes like triangles and 155 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: you know, circles and things that I really I thought 156 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: were very peculiar to show up. And then there were 157 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: there were figures there and they appeared to me as 158 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 3: some sort of spiritual guides or higher masters, and they 159 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 3: had long robes on. And the most profound thing that 160 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: happened to me was the experience in this very short 161 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 3: window of time. It was less than a minute that 162 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 3: I felt completely liberated from my body and from my thoughts. 163 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 3: And I remember, you know, just experiencing this and saying 164 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 3: to myself, this is who I really am. This, this 165 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: experience is who I am apart from my personality, apart 166 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: from my day to day living. This this is a 167 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: liberating experience. And I remember experiencing that sort of free 168 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 3: them and I don't think language really does it justice. 169 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: It's really it was really a you know, a feeling 170 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: that I had. And then I was back into my 171 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: body and you know, I awoke and I thought, wow, 172 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 3: that was really profound. And that was the only time 173 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: that happened. So we can have those sorts of experiences 174 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: where we are we're aware of ourselves on that higher level, 175 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 3: beyond our body, beyond our personality, and beyond our rational mind. Also, 176 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: there are loved one visitations, and you mentioned this earlier. 177 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 3: This is where we will actually make contact with those 178 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,479 Speaker 3: who are deceased. They're not here physically. 179 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 2: Why did they use the sleep state, Carol to communicate 180 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: with us? 181 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a lot easier here. It's an in 182 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 3: between place, so kind of like mediumship. And that's why 183 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: mediumship is called mediumship because the person who is the 184 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: medium is meeting that person who is in the spirit world, 185 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: that soul in the middle, and the soul has to 186 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: low rise vibration in order to communicate. So there's that 187 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 3: meeting in the middle of those two worlds. So it's 188 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: the same way with dreaming that we connect with them 189 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: and oftentimes there's very little exchange but the presence of 190 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 3: that soul. And I've talked about this on the show 191 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 3: before that I had one of those with my late 192 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: grandmother who passed way back and I was in college 193 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: nineteen seventy seven, and she appeared, This was about fifteen 194 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: seventeen years after her passing, and there was no words, 195 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 3: there was nothing except a flow of love that I've 196 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 3: never felt ever being in my body, you know, through 197 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: my personality, I've never experienced that level or intensity of love. 198 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: So that is what I call a dream visitation, when 199 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 3: that soul is actually there with you and you recognize 200 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: them by that very profound level of the soul recognition. Now, 201 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 3: on the negative side, there's also nightmares or what I 202 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: have personally experienced, and maybe some of the listeners have 203 00:15:54,840 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: experienced these night terrors and paralysis, right, paralysis, Yes, And 204 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: I've had these since I was in my twenties. When 205 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: I started having them, Interestingly, I was getting into a 206 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: lot of trouble at that time in my life. I 207 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: was drinking heavily. This is when I was even before 208 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: twenty five years of age, So between twenty and twenty five, 209 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: I was drinking heavily and I experienced night hears. And 210 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 3: I have my own theory on that. I've read a 211 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: lot and I've heard people speak about them. I believe 212 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: that there is actually an entity that is present during 213 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 3: that and a lot of people experienced that, and so 214 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: I kind of put it in this category of spiritual 215 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 3: in that you know, it's out of the ordinary. It's 216 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: definitely not a mental or you know, an emotional processing 217 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: type of experience. When I have had these happen, I 218 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 3: perceive an entity that is there that is highly negative, 219 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: and a lot of other people who have had these 220 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 3: experienced that as well. Uh. It's also called the old 221 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 3: Hag syndrome. 222 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: Uh huh, of course, and. 223 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: It's yeah, that's kind of a weird thing to call it, 224 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 3: but it's referring to the you know, that negative entity 225 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 3: kind of sits on. 226 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: Your chest and stifles you, doesn't it. 227 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 3: Yes, And the paralysis. I have had these things where 228 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 3: I actually want to cry out or you know, scream, 229 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 3: and even my vocal cores are paralyzed. 230 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: Makes it even more frightening. 231 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: It does. And I had one in my again going 232 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 3: back into my twenties, where I perceived a an alien 233 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 3: that was in the room with me, I mean, you know, 234 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 3: like a gray a gray alien, and I was terrified, 235 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 3: absolutely terrified. 236 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 2: Was it just perception or was it possibly real? 237 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 3: I believe it may actually have been real, because I've 238 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 3: had I had one other experience in dream state where 239 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 3: I was with aliens, not the grays, but the Pleaadians, 240 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: And that's the only time that happened, and that was 241 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 3: much more positive. This one with the Grays was highly frightening, 242 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 3: and they were sort of just there again, no words exchanged, 243 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 3: but the experience was one where I was paralyzed and 244 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 3: you try to move, you even try to move a 245 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: leg or an arm, and you can't move. And sometimes 246 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: there's an electrical shock that a company staff. I've had 247 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: that happen as well. 248 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 249 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern and go to Coast tocoastam dot 250 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: com for more