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Speaker 1: got the updown report a little bit later. But NBA

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Speaker 1: Finals Game one recap, that's what we're doing. CP three

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Speaker 1: carries the Suns, pass Jannis Yes He's back, baby, and

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Speaker 1: the Bucks in the NBA Finals opener. Task get us started.

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Speaker 1: What was a big takeaway from that Game one Phoenix

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Speaker 1: Suns victory.

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Speaker 4: First thing to take away is that basketball is freakin' amazing.

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Speaker 4: Second thing to take away is that if the Bucks

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Speaker 4: didn't have Yiannis Tetkoopo in this series, would have been

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Speaker 4: a quick.

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Speaker 3: Win for the Phoenix Suns.

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Speaker 4: And it was great to see Yannie's back look in freakin' great,

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Speaker 4: So the Sun's got to feel good about winning game one.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, the fact that Yannis came

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Speaker 4: in there and look pretty frickin' normal, aftter hyper extending

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Speaker 4: his knee. We all saw that incredible block that everybody

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Speaker 4: started comparing to Lebron's Chase down block in Game seven

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Speaker 4: of the Warriors Finals. What was more impressive to me

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Speaker 4: was the way he looked like the strongest, toughest player

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Speaker 4: on the floor at times, pushing the Sun's biggest player,

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Speaker 4: DeAndre eight in a way from the hoop in that

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Speaker 4: first half when he had that push off, get off

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Speaker 4: me two hand jam. They won the minutes that Janice

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Speaker 4: at Koupo was on the floor, Surprisingly the Milwaukee Bucks did,

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Speaker 4: so that is a great sign. The bad thing is

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Speaker 4: they're going to expect more from him. So the fact

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Speaker 4: that Mike Bunholzer played him only thirty five minutes is good.

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Speaker 4: I think for the Bucks that they can play him more.

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Speaker 4: He looks great again. They won those minutes, and they

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Speaker 4: can go to him a heck of a lot more.

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Speaker 4: He ended up with only eleven shots, even though he

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Speaker 4: had twenty and seventeen and went to the free throw

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Speaker 4: line a bunch. But he looks good, he feels good.

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Speaker 4: Zero airballs from the free throw line actually quickening the

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Speaker 4: pace at times. The Suns fans who were counting way

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Speaker 4: too fast couldn't even get to ten.

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Speaker 2: That was impressive.

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Speaker 4: It was impressive MVP being able to shoot a free

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Speaker 4: throw under ten seconds huge. But the fact that he

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Speaker 4: was pushing off DeAndre Eyight and he played thirty five minutes,

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Speaker 4: He had to play at the center spot in the

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Speaker 4: fifth quarter. He had to do a lot. So we

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Speaker 4: can get to the nitty gritty, but you start with Yiannis.

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Speaker 3: That was great.

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Speaker 4: And then the fact that the Bucks were willing to adapt.

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Speaker 4: Mike Bunholzer tried a bunch of defenses on the pick

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Speaker 4: and roll, which we'll get into. The Bucks absolutely stink

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Speaker 4: at game once they lost their last one against the

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Speaker 4: Hawks and Trey young. They definitely adjusted in game two.

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Speaker 4: They lost the one to the Brooklyn Nets in the

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Speaker 4: series before that, even against the Miami Heat they won

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Speaker 4: in overtime, so they've only won one game one so

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Speaker 4: far this series. The Sun's got a bit of the

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Speaker 4: whistle of the free throw discrepancy in this one, and

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Speaker 4: the Bucks missed a bunch of paint shots in the

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Speaker 4: first half that we would have been talking about this

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Speaker 4: game a lot differently if they hit a bunch of

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Speaker 4: those layups. So start there. Obviously the Sun's deeper, stronger, better,

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Speaker 4: but a really good start. That Yannis came in there

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Speaker 4: and look pretty frick and normal. I guess all those

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Speaker 4: Twitter doctors were wrong saying that the hyper extended and

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Speaker 4: he could keep him out for a long period of time.

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Speaker 4: I guess they provided themselves with an out when they

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Speaker 4: But he's back, and I think you just got to

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Speaker 4: go to him more. It's the finals. He's got no choice.

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Speaker 4: They got to go to more. He is their best player.

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Speaker 4: They're obviously the less deep team, but a good start anyways.

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Speaker 4: I think for the Bucks, I know they don't get

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Speaker 4: like Steve curR always says, is the game to steal.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to Thursday, Yeah, tasks sounding very high on

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Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Bucks despite the loss. And you're right, I

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Speaker 1: mean honest with that spring to his step and what

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Speaker 1: they threw him a lob in the first fifteen seconds, Right,

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Speaker 1: You're like, oh, okay, maybe he is okay. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen to four good good game, not great game,

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Speaker 1: but good game for a guy that we thought maybe

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Speaker 1: out for the rest of the damn season. But the

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Speaker 1: Sons get the victory and sort of carved the Bucks

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Speaker 1: up there. TK. And it really is the question everybody's

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Speaker 1: asking here after game one. It's like, what defense do

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Speaker 1: you play against this team?

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Speaker 1: What is butenholder to do? Is it goes small? I

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Speaker 1: mean it worked a little bit there, I go small

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Speaker 1: with Giannis.

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Speaker 2: You're telling me go small, States you want to see

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Speaker 2: more Pat commenton, you want to see more Brin Forbes.

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Speaker 2: I do not think going small is the answer. Shocker, Honestly,

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Speaker 2: I think the answer is gonna be Giannis Anta Takumpo

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Speaker 2: guarding DeAndre Ayton. I think that should be this change

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Speaker 2: that the Bucks make heading into game two here, and

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Speaker 2: I think brook Lopez should stay on the court and

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Speaker 2: I think he should guard Jay Crowder, make Jay Crowder

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Speaker 2: beat you if the if the Suns want to get

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Speaker 2: brook Lopez involved in actions, then they're bringing Jay Crowder

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Speaker 2: into actions. I don't think that's a problem for a

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Speaker 2: if it's yeah or sorry, if they want to get

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Speaker 2: eight and involved in the pick and roll game, then

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Speaker 2: you're bringing Giannis into the play. I think that that's

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Speaker 2: an easy change to make because to me, play and

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Speaker 2: drop is just asking to get beat by Chris Paul

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Speaker 2: and Devin Booker. You're playing into the Sun's strengths. We

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Speaker 2: saw it last night once. Once the Bucks stopped switching

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Speaker 2: after they were getting torch switching, they had to go

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Speaker 2: to the drop coverage and that's when Chris Paul really

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Speaker 2: heated up in the third quarter. Also, you can't play

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Speaker 2: Bobby Portis and brook Lopez at the same time, simply impossible.

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Speaker 2: Crazy stuff from Bud, But game one, Bud, you know

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Speaker 2: it's gonna come out something crazy. But it was embarrassing

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Speaker 2: for the Bucks to see Lopez and Portis just get

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Speaker 2: brought up every single time. Hey, come come up here,

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Speaker 2: We'll give you a quick bucket here Brook Lopez slid

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Speaker 2: under Chris Paul for the Zaza at one point, it

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Speaker 2: was just bad. I don't think that the Bucks were

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Speaker 2: gonna be able to beat the Suns in Game one

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Speaker 2: last night, no matter how they played defense. They tried everything,

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Speaker 2: they tried switching, no luck, they tried drop no luck.

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Speaker 2: Just got to be a little bit more aggressive at

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Speaker 2: the point of attack. I think Chris Paul has to

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Speaker 2: be guarded by Drew Holliday. Drew has to to get

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Speaker 2: over every single screen, and he's got to be going

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Speaker 2: into honest because that's a little bit scarier than going

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Speaker 2: into Brook Lopez hanging out fifth at the fifteen foot mark,

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Speaker 2: that's an easy jumper for anybody on the Sun. So

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I think the Bucks can just be

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Speaker 2: a little bit more aggressive. That to me seems to

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Speaker 2: be the adjustment they make heading into these game twos.

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Speaker 2: You know, against the Nets, it was PJ. Tucker just

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Speaker 2: starts foling Kevin Durant every time up the court. Not

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Speaker 2: gonna call it every time Drew Holliday picked it up

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Speaker 2: against Trey Young in Game two against the Hawks, started

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Speaker 2: fouling him every time up and down the court. They're

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Speaker 2: not gonna call it every time. You can get away

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Speaker 2: with it in the playoffs, get a little bit more

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Speaker 2: physical out there. It looked like the Bucks were just

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Speaker 2: kind of going along with whatever the Sons wanted to do.

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Speaker 2: They've got to be the aggressors if they want to win.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris Paul Leary dissected the Bucks during that third quarter.

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Speaker 1: He made six of his seven shots fourteen of the

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Speaker 1: sixteen I believe came basically just after the most simplest

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Speaker 1: switch you could ever imagine, just Chris Paul saying, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Brook Lopez on me now, or I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna take Bobby Portius on me now. And yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to switch up that. But what did you

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Speaker 1: you agree with Trey You say no, no, no, don't

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Speaker 1: panic yet. You know this has happened to you before.

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Speaker 1: We just saw it. In Game one of the last series,

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Speaker 1: Trey On went for forty eight and you didn't you know,

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Speaker 1: Brook Lopez got taken out of that game in game

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Speaker 1: one back in the last round, you know, they like

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Speaker 1: had to go away from it. Sort of happened here.

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Speaker 1: They went small with Giannis at the five, but eventually

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Speaker 1: as the series went on, and yes, Trey got hurt

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Speaker 1: and that was a big part of it, but Brooke

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Speaker 1: found a way to contribute. So do you do that

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Speaker 1: and say, no, we can make this work with him

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Speaker 1: which did work a little bit in the second half

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Speaker 1: they hit some threes of course when it was happening,

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Speaker 1: But as Shoe pointed out and Trey brought it up,

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Speaker 1: it's like, now you have content or forbes that got

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Speaker 1: to be out there in the small ball lineups basically,

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Speaker 1: and the Suns will just target those guys. So what

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Speaker 1: do you do if your coach bud here as you

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Speaker 1: head into game two?

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Speaker 6: Well, when Chris Poule decides to get those switches, it

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Speaker 6: almost doesn't matter if he gets someone out anyway, because

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Speaker 6: is Chris Middleton going to be able to stop him

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Speaker 6: when he gets into the paint like that? It doesn't

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Speaker 6: it doesn't really matter. But Bobby Portos came out and

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Speaker 6: he came out a couple of times, so deep Chris

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Speaker 6: Pole's like, I'm just walking inside here. So it's tough

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Speaker 6: because you need Yarnis to guard Chris Paul. You need

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Speaker 6: Jarnister guard eight, and you need Jarnister guard Bridges. You

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Speaker 6: need Jarnister guard Devin Booker. Really, I mean, that's the thing.

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Speaker 6: He's their longest, most athletic, most versatile defender. But if

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Speaker 6: leave so much work there for Yarnas to do. So

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Speaker 6: this was a pretty impressive performance here from Chris Paul.

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Speaker 6: I think that's the thing. We just maybe maybe you

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Speaker 6: don't need to overlook that. In that third quarter it

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Speaker 6: was winning time and he just took full advantage of

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Speaker 6: whatever the Bucks gave him. So I do think you

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Speaker 6: need to keep brook Lopez out there for longer now.

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Speaker 6: He tried it in Game one by sitting him and

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Speaker 6: it didn't really work, so he at least he's figured

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Speaker 6: that out. I think Boudenholes are going forward that Lopez

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Speaker 6: needs to be effective and they can't afford to play

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Speaker 6: such a small lineup with Jannis at the five there,

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Speaker 6: and then you got Bobby, and as you guys are

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Speaker 1: Yeah. What went bad for the Sons in game one?

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Speaker 6: I mean Crowder, you know, have finished with nine rebounds

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Speaker 7: I just thought you just couldn't hit those shots.

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Speaker 1: better is the problem. Booker's not going to probably shoot

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Speaker 1: what do he shoot from? Three? Did even hit one?

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Speaker 1: So that's you know, unlikely again. Uh, And I thought

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Speaker 3: Scheme.

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Speaker 1: No, I hate Dragon Bender. Actually once had him on

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Speaker 1: I think you have to and he's got to fight

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the thing is going back to the Hawk series.

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Speaker 4: Trey Young lit up the Bucks for forty eight in

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Speaker 4: game one. The Bucks came back in game two, and

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Speaker 4: Then the next play the Suns ads, they adapt and

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Speaker 3: I mean, it really is. It's tough. It's tough.

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Speaker 4: It's picked your poison for the Milwaukee Bucks. But again,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be awesome if Fiannis could draw a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what about eating real quickly? We keep saying like,

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Speaker 1: doesn't get in fel trouble. He's never even had five

432
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Speaker 1: fouls in the entire playoffs. It's amazing good. He's really

433
00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,280
Speaker 1: really of course impressed us and a lot of people.

434
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,159
Speaker 1: I think, just how incredibly he's been on both ends.

435
00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,840
Speaker 1: I thought he was a monster last night. And I

436
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,560
Speaker 1: know we'll get to Chris Paul stealing something from Big

437
00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,080
Speaker 1: Eaton there in this game.

438
00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,720
Speaker 2: But his screening and his role and then slips his cuts.

439
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he had that second quarter where he just ran,

440
00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,080
Speaker 1: like ran on the floor looking like young David Robinson

441
00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,119
Speaker 1: just beating everybody down their easy layup. He had a

442
00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,679
Speaker 1: jump hook over Tucker where he's like too small, Like

443
00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,080
Speaker 1: he's just been awesome all postseason. And again we keep

444
00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,520
Speaker 1: saying like we'll get him in foul trouble, but he

445
00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,440
Speaker 1: doesn't do it. He doesn't. He hasn't even had five

446
00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,000
Speaker 1: fouls this entire postseason in one game, let alone file

447
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,480
Speaker 1: out of six. So I think, you know, easier said

448
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,040
Speaker 1: than done. I guess at this point with him, because

449
00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 1: he's he's smart, he doesn't he doesn't do a lot

450
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,600
Speaker 1: of like just swipeing in the hack and he's like

451
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,240
Speaker 1: sometimes you know, it's smarter to give it up here

452
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 1: if you have to.

453
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's got a pretty high basketball, like you for

454
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,440
Speaker 6: a young guy, because on the offensive end, he doesn't

455
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,640
Speaker 6: seem to take shots that aren't really in his range

456
00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 6: or aren't part of his game. So he's really worked

457
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 6: hard on both ends there. But speaking of the fouls,

458
00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 6: I think Chris Middleton probably has a case last night

459
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 6: that he got a pretty tough whistle there. He had

460
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 6: zero free throw attempts, and there was a plenty of

461
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,240
Speaker 6: times I thought that he had a legit case that

462
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 6: he could have at least been to the free throw line.

463
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 6: So that also could be something going forward, because I'm

464
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,960
Speaker 6: sure the Bucks will make mention of that too, you know,

465
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 6: over the next day or so, that they didn't really

466
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,439
Speaker 6: seem to get a lot of those friendly whistles, and

467
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 6: maybe the Suns did you know, home court, you know,

468
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,119
Speaker 6: for Game one, all that sort of stuff. But I

469
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 6: didn't think Chris Middleton was bad last night. I thought

470
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 6: he played well. I thought he was aggressive. But sometimes

471
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 6: again when those shots don't drop, they sort of just

472
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 6: there's a bit of a lid on the basket and

473
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:31,479
Speaker 6: you don't get the free throws.

474
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Speaker 7: It sort of makes.

475
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Speaker 6: It a little bit harder as well to get scores

476
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,400
Speaker 6: because they didn't get any of those easy baskets out there.

477
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 6: So that's also something to watch going forward because you know,

478
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 6: the other point I was going to make as well

479
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 6: just then was Drew Holiday at times looks extremely casual

480
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,679
Speaker 6: out there in the way that he passes the ball

481
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,400
Speaker 6: and the way that he just sort.

482
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 7: Of handles the ball.

483
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 6: Because Phoenix is a fantastic team at really taking care

484
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 6: of the basketball, protecting that basketball. I think it starts

485
00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 6: with Chris Paul, who's an incredible ball handler, and I

486
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 6: think the other Sons players, you know, sort of feed

487
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 6: off that. Whereas the Bucks a couple of times, like

488
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 6: Drew Holiday lost one I can't remember who stole it

489
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 6: off him and they went down. It was crucial part

490
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 6: of the game in that fourth quarter, and it was

491
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 6: like that was not playoff basketball intensity from Drew Holiday

492
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 6: sort of keeping control of the ball out there, and

493
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 6: he does take a couple of shots that sort of

494
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 6: almost seen lazy bailout shots as well. So he needs

495
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 6: to focus a little bit more because he's so important

496
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 6: to what they do at both ends of the floor.

497
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,160
Speaker 6: But if you're going to be, you know, just cruising

498
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 6: along and strolling out there, that's not going to help

499
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 6: the Bucks. So I would like to see that adjustment

500
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 6: from him in game two. It's just a lot more

501
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 6: intense and lot more focus.

502
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 4: What is it a happy hour? Drew Holiday, saint casual

503
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 4: time man, pig it out. Yeah, I'm with you. The

504
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 4: Drew Holiday thing is is always a conundrum. Is he

505
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 4: is the biggest question mark in the game for the

506
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 4: Milwaukee Bucks. But as Tre said, he sometimes he doesn't

507
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 4: know where he's going with yanisun the floor, he looked,

508
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 4: you know, great towards the end of this Hawk series

509
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 4: without yannisun there. The good thing is, even though I think,

510
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 4: you know, Yan should play as many minutes as possible,

511
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 4: you know, Bud is gonna sit Yannis, and so there

512
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 4: is time six minutes into the game, it's like clockwork,

513
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 4: Yanny sits down. Drew Holliday, it's your time to shine.

514
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 4: He's he's definitely got to be decent. I mean, he's

515
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 4: he's just got to be you know, he's setting guys up,

516
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 4: and he's I think I think we'll see a different

517
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 4: Drew in Game two, defensively and offensively.

518
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 3: Just just gotta be that guy.

519
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 4: If they're gonna win this thing, if they're gonna if

520
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 4: they're gonna fight because they can't get out played in

521
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 4: the back court like that. Middleton definitely picked it up

522
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 4: in the second half when he gets going.

523
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Speaker 3: It's a thing of beauty to watch him score his

524
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Speaker 3: twenty nine.

525
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,199
Speaker 4: It's like it's like a quiet twenty nine. You know,

526
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 4: he's just he just keeps doing his thing. So if

527
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 4: he's gonna score and Yan is gonna perform. But they're

528
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 4: not a deep team. Yeah, they need they need Drew

529
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 4: to show.

530
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, they need Drew. What we saw in you know,

531
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: game five and six of the last series for sure,

532
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 1: and even turning it on super late in Game seven

533
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 1: against the Nets. Remember he was garbage all game and

534
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: then suddenly caught fire. You're right, I mean you can't

535
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: have ten points he camp be four to fourteen, and yeah,

536
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: just like have no sort of impact at all as

537
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: the lead guy, as the point guard on that team.

538
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: It was a bad, bad Drew Holiday game for the Bucks. Unfortunately.

539
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 2: Was there any unheralded stars in this song?

540
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: We obviously talking about all the stars on both sides,

541
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: but like, is it one of the cams to you, Trey,

542
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: is it it's somebody else on the Suns that impressed you?

543
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: And maybe more of a limited role.

544
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lee touched on it quickly. Cam Johnson was great

545
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 2: last night. Ten points, two steals, two assists, two three pointers,

546
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: three rebounds. He ripped Giannas in the fourth quarter. It

547
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 2: was impressive. And as we're seeing, you know, we're getting

548
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: into game two here and we're already like, I don't

549
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: know if you're gonna be able to play Bobby Portis,

550
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 2: don't know if you're gonna be able to play Pat

551
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: Conaton for the Suns. It's just Frank Kaminsky, like that

552
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 2: guy's not gonna get any time. But he probably wouldn't

553
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 2: have got any time if Sarag doesn't go down last night. Meanwhile,

554
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 2: it feels like everybody on the Suns that runs out

555
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: there is gonna contribute. But uh, except for the Clippers.

556
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: Usually role players play better at home. So I think

557
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 2: it's encouraging if you're the Suns that one of your

558
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 2: young guys who was playing in his first Finals game.

559
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: I guess not that young. Him and Giannis are almost

560
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 2: the same age, even though it's only a year two

561
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: for Cam Johnson. But to show up and to hit

562
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: the shots that you need, it was clutch stuff.

563
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're getting four or three pointers off of

564
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: your bench there in a game where you can't hit

565
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: many to begin with, from the two cams both splashing

566
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: two and then Tory Craig gave him what his normal like,

567
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 1: fourteen or fifteen minutes. And then there was the Frank

568
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: Kaminsky Frank Kaminsky minutes that I mean he didn't do anything.

569
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 1: You actually look at a box score, he literally did nothing.

570
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: He has the ophers there.

571
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, the dark Star eight times, I think, yeah, yeah.

572
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: And somehow ends the plus minus zero somehow, but very weird.

573
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll see a lot of them, and

574
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: they might. They might be forced to uh when he

575
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: has to sit at some point though. Eaton's what twenty

576
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: two years old? Yeah, exactly doesn't foul. Like we said,

577
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: if anyone's gonna be able to play heavy, heavy minutes,

578
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: you would think someone like that, the athletic freak that

579
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: he is, then he can play those heavy minutes. Maybe, hey,

580
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: tyros Ot as the series goes on, but I sort

581
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: of dealt it. You can play him thirty eight thirty

582
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: nine minutes a game, no problem. There leally any other

583
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: unhralded stars. They're sort of named in the while I guess.

584
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I just think again. Campaign you saw his pace.

585
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 6: He gets out there and he really pushes that ball.

586
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 6: He hit a couple of threes, but he's also penetrating

587
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 6: as well getting inside, so he does mix up that game.

588
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 7: And I just think that energy boost.

589
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 6: That he gives them off the bench, the Bucks don't

590
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 6: have anyone to sort.

591
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 7: Of counter that.

592
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 6: I mean, Jeft came out hit a three, was feeling good,

593
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 6: and then he fell over on the next play. But

594
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 6: that's the sort of difference we're talking about yesterday, is

595
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,719
Speaker 6: that the Son's bench players can really come out and

596
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 6: just sort of just boost that team, keep them going.

597
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 7: Whereas I feel with the Bucks again.

598
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 6: With Brent Forbes Antigue, Budenholes is almost just hanging on

599
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 6: a little bit, you know, he's trying to sort of

600
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 6: buy some time. Rather than Monty Williams, I think can

601
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 6: feel confident that those guys are really going to sort

602
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 6: of continue to play and continue the flow that they

603
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 6: get from their starting lineup. So that is going to

604
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 6: also be something to watch going forward, because Budenholes and

605
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 6: may have to make this a very top rotation here

606
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 6: only goes sort of six or seven deep, and even

607
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 6: those guys who do come out if they're not performing,

608
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 6: they won't be out there for very long.

609
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 7: So but that's fine. It's the finals.

610
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 6: I mean that you play your five best players as

611
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 6: much as you can. I mean, if that's what it

612
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 6: takes to win, that's fine. It's just you know, those

613
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 6: sorts of things can potentially catch up to you in

614
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 6: the deepest series if it goes longer. Because again, you know,

615
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 6: Monty I think can just trust his bench a little

616
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 6: more than budenholes it can right now.

617
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt.

618
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 4: One scary thing I'll mention it. Yeah, watching Bobby Porters

619
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 4: out there on the perimeter guarding Chris Paul as I mean,

620
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 4: this is this is not his fourte What are we

621
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 4: doing here?

622
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 3: What are we playing? This is running.

623
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 4: It's like a dance out there that Bobby Porters is

624
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 4: trying to poke Chris Paul on the perimeter.

625
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 3: That was that was gross.

626
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 4: But you know, at the on the other end, the

627
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 4: Sun's Campaign, Yeah, coming in, you don't get a break

628
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 4: if you're the Bucks. You know, Chris Paul Dunbooker, one

629
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 4: of them goes to the bench and then Campaign comes

630
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 4: in and he's banging home threes. We've got a heat

631
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 4: check from campaign in the NBA Finals. That was amazing.

632
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 4: That was amazing. Yeah, the Suns are so so good.

633
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 4: Let me let me say one random thing about Frank Kminski.

634
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 4: Apparently the Bucks had viewing party and Pfizer for him,

635
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 4: and when he came into the game.

636
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 3: Huge cheers.

637
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 4: I was told by you know, Frank Madden and Camp

638
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 4: Pittman of the Lockdown podcast, because yeah, he's he's a Lyle,

639
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 4: Illinois boy.

640
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 3: But that's not right.

641
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 2: He took the BA, he took the University of Wisconsin

642
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: Badgers to the National Championship Game, national Player of the Year,

643
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 2: so they love him. This is a tough spot or

644
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: for Bucks fans. Are they going to cheer against Frank Kaminski?

645
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 2: Not a chance, man.

646
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: They know who Frank Kminski is.

647
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: That's great, Yeah they do, and we may not see

648
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: him for the rest of the series. So I'm glad

649
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: they got excited when he came in. Any other random

650
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: notes from game one, Trey I alluded to the to the.

651
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: All the beef thief, Yeah the beef thief.

652
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah.

653
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: Monster game for DeAndre Ayton could have been a legendary

654
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: game were it not for Chris Paul twenty two points

655
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: and nineteen rebounds should have been twenty rebounds, though, because

656
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 2: look what happens on this very last possession. I think

657
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: it's Brent Forbes gets a desperation three up, Aiden has

658
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: the rebound until Chris Paul rips it out of his hands.

659
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: Look at his reaction right away. Oh oh, I'm sorry, guys,

660
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I also love Devin Booker. What are you doing?

661
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: Man?

662
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: My favorite part about this whole thing. Immediately after the

663
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: buzzer sounds, Chris Paul goes to this decorer's table, trying

664
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 2: to convince him that DeAndre Ayton should get that twentieth rebound. Hey,

665
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: give it to him, Give it to him. It was

666
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: a control tip. It was a control tip. It was

667
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: just me trying to do it. I also love here.

668
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: At the end, Booker comes in, he sees eight.

669
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, man, he just.

670
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: Thole your rebound, didn't he Yeah? He did. Even postgame

671
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: deandret and said, definitely, Chris Paul stole my rebound. But

672
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: very funny. Too bad though, because this would have been

673
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: the first twenty twenty game in the NBA Finals since

674
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: Shaquille O'Neal in two thousand and four since nineteen eighty six.

675
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: It's only Shack and Tim Duncan that'll put up twenty

676
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: twenty games in the NBA Finals. Chris Paul, Man, I

677
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: know you'll like to secure the game. Let the big

678
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: guys get the rebound rebounds.

679
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: Come on, do you think, like, oh JD, if you

680
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: could play that first part again? You think you think

681
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: Chris Paul like taps it out of Eaton's hand because

682
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: I thought, drop, Okay, Ayton's got him right there there,

683
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: he's got it left hand. For sure, he's gonna.

684
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 6: Get some of the beefs we've watched. There's no question

685
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 6: that Eighton would have gotten the credit for the rebound anyway.

686
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 6: You know, sometimes you just see your guy touch it.

687
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 6: It's like, yeah, the first touch is almost the guy

688
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 6: who gets the rebound. So I'm a little surprised. Yannis

689
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 6: was also flirted with the beef. We almost double beefed

690
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 6: out there.

691
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: What a stuble beef and game on the finals? No, Weggie, Unfortunately,

692
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: that's okay though.

693
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 7: No time.

694
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: Hey Lee, you got Brook Lopez winning the jump ball

695
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: after a rejump You.

696
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: Got that right right?

697
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 7: Yeah?

698
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 6: What about the Phoenix Suns though they set a record

699
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 6: shooting twenty four consecutive free throws they make, they're gonna

700
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 6: go twenty six to twenty six. J Crowder with twenty

701
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 6: four seconds to go, it just bops out there.

702
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: They would have been.

703
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 6: Twenty six for twenty six at the free throw line.

704
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 6: Practice your free throws kids.

705
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 7: Oh man, how are important?

706
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 6: I mean what the game margin was around what was

707
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 6: it eleven twelve points? That was more than that was

708
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 6: thirteen in the end, and the free throw advantage was

709
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 6: sixteen there to Phoenix because they made them. I mean,

710
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 6: I mentioned a little bit earlier, only got sixteen free

711
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 6: throws themselves at Bucks. I think I think they were

712
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 6: a little bit stiff last night with some of those calls.

713
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 6: But still Phoenix got there and they knocked them in

714
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 6: and that's what's important.

715
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it got to be what a seven point game? Yeah,

716
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: in the fourth corridor, it was like, well, okay, this

717
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: is not over. After you know, you're watching the game,

718
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: you're like, Phoenix has been in control this whole damn thing.

719
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: And then you're like, oh, Bucks hit a couple threes

720
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: in the fourth You're like, what this was a three

721
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: possession game here? But then they turned it on. I

722
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: think they finished on a seventeen to eleven closed there

723
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: to the fourth corridor. They were a much better team

724
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: and deservedly win Game one. Man keep showing the Sons

725
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: in four bros now over there on the.

726
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: Side going great with their long locks.

727
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,719
Speaker 1: Oh man, every crowd shot in Phoenix this postseason has

728
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: been It's been amazing the people that are going to

729
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: watch these games. Apparently it was frantic energy in that building,

730
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 1: and an alcohol elvino did flow apparently too. People were

731
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: saying it was a party.

732
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: And why not.

733
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: I haven't had a game one. I haven't had a

734
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: finals game in a long time. Test.

735
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was cool.

736
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 4: I didn't mind those those cameras on those bros. They

737
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 4: were giving it every time. They were feeling. No alcohol

738
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 4: in the shot, no no drinking at all. They're just yeah,

739
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 4: they're up. I mean, if you're behind those dudes, you

740
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 4: can't sit down. You also have to be up and

741
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 4: ready to go.

742
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: I mean it was loud. Even Breen was saying, like

743
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: early in the game, like you can barely hear the whistle. Yeah,

744
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: there's a couple of plays. There's a play where like

745
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: Booker he missed, then he got the offensive rebound that

746
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: he thought he got and he flexed because he was

747
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: like doing work inside. But it was like the play

748
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: had been called debt even called, like a foul had

749
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: been called, and it was like, oh, you probably couldn't

750
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,959
Speaker 1: even hear it because that crowd was hyped. And then

751
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: you know, we got the Deer District up in Milwaukee,

752
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: had a bunch of people in the arena, like, the

753
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: crowds are going to be awesome in this. I mean

754
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: maybe it's because we didn't have crowds last year in

755
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: the finals with the Bubble, but both just rabbid fan bases,

756
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: which makes for an awesome viewing experience for sure at home.

757
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: Any other random notes Lee that do you want to

758
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: add to this?

759
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 6: The free throws man, I was sitting there just like

760
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 6: they're going to be perfect. I think that happened in

761
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 6: the game against maybe the Jazz as well. They were

762
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 6: like nineteen for nineteen and it was like twenty seconds

763
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 6: ago and crowd. I think I'm going to check that out.

764
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 6: I think it was crowd as well who missed one.

765
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 6: Then they could have stayed perfect for the night. God

766
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 6: stop messing with those free throws.

767
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: Jcu bullseye tip tray very close to your I think

768
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: you what you had nine o nine?

769
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: Is that what you were going with?

770
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: It was pretty close man, that that final commercial Breakwain Forever.

771
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was feeling good. It was nine

772
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: oh seven. I was like, oh, here we go. We

773
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: might be looking good. But no, we had a little

774
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: little pause to build the anticipation. Oh my god, we

775
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: end up starting at nine thirty five. It was it was.

776
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: Nine to eleven or nine twelve, you know. I went

777
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: with nine eleven because we're on a bit of a

778
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: delay when we're watching on TV, and it just clicked

779
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: over to nine twelve for me. Here. I actually had

780
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: the official clock up on the old browser, and I

781
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: was like, that's probably nine to eleven when they did

782
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: that thing. Six eleven there West Coast. Not too bad,

783
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, that's all right for a nine o'clock start.

784
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: Can't we can't start fifteen twenty minutes in? These things

785
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: go pretty late.

786
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: Well, you're clock sponsored by tisso or I hate.

787
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: I felt like the breaks were taking a long time

788
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 4: and actually hated myself. In the first break, I was like,

789
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 4: this is nice. I'm reading all these comments. I thought

790
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 4: Twitter was flowing like you know, take your time. Like

791
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 4: I hated myself though, you know, I'd rather watch basketball

792
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 4: than read Twitter, But I don't know, maybe I was

793
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 4: just in a good mood. Hearing fans again compared to

794
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 4: last year was something else. And yeah, the I literally

795
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 4: had to rewind multiple times because I didn't hear a whistle.

796
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 4: It's like who is it called on? Which ref is

797
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 4: calling it? From across the floor. But yeah, kudos to

798
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 4: the sides fans. They were awesome. Both both arenas I

799
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 4: think will be popping in this series.

800
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: Final question here before you take a break, Tray Finals

801
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: MVP rankings after one game one, two three? How would

802
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: you have it on your ballot right now after forty

803
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: eight minutes of action.

804
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 2: I'm going Chris Paul, DeAndre Ayton, Devin Booker, though honestly

805
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: two and three feel free to switch either one of them.

806
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be hard for anybody on

807
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 2: the Suns to win Finals MVP after game one, after

808
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: the way Chris Paul played, Yeah, he's gonna have the

809
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: most narrative heat behind him. But I think there's nine voters.

810
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll split it three ways, cause I mean, honestly,

811
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: all three of them were great last night. But you know,

812
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: I always think back to Kobe Bryant six for twenty

813
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: four in a clinching game and he still won finals MVP.

814
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 2: They want to give it to Chris Paul, and honestly,

815
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: he deserves it, and we'll see how the rest of

816
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: the series plays out. But after one night, CP three

817
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: is the game.

818
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that Chris Paul jumper can come and go. That's

819
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: the thing. He's always not crowd or streaky. But he

820
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: never missed a jumper versus the Nuggets in that series.

821
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: Like he it felt like it. I think he shot

822
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: sixty seven percent from mid range against those four in

823
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: those four games against Denver, but then the first three

824
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: games right against the Clippers league, I mean, he went

825
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: ice cooled. He was not hitting them nineteen. Yeah, so

826
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: there it is. So you know, obviously, then he finishes

827
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: that that series with an unbelievable Game six where you

828
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: can't miss, and then he keeps it going here in

829
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: Game one. But you know, I mean, look, I guess

830
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm getting it. Maybe maybe you continue to play it

831
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: the way you did and you just hope Chris Paul

832
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: can't hit those I mean, god.

833
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: He's tough.

834
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you figure one game he's gonna probably not

835
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 6: not just drain them with that consistency, and it'll probably

836
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 6: be in Milwaukee for Game three or four.

837
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 7: You know, that's what you're hoping for it for the Backs.

838
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 6: But really the big question is who's going to get

839
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 6: the Hubie Brown Finals MVP vote?

840
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 7: After game one? I'm probably saying campaign. I think, oh wow, you.

841
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 6: Know, because you know, Huby loves those guys who just

842
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 6: come out there and work hard like that.

843
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 7: He likes to swerve a little.

844
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: So oh, I think DeAndre Ayton would be the Hubie Brown?

845
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 7: Yes, maybe, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

846
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: It's taking hull Bee back to the days and a

847
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: big man matter, and this guy's like flirting with big

848
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: beefs and like.

849
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: Running the floor. It was like Michael Cage out there.

850
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.

851
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, okay, that will keep this going throughout the final.

852
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: Who would Hugh be Brown or who will he be Brown?

853
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: Be voting for it? The Maybe it's Chris Paul too.

854
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: We're overthinking it, all right, So I'm with you on

855
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: the rankings right now, TK Chris Paul one eating two,

856
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: and I think Booker sort of a distant third. Actually

857
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: after those two guys. So he played a fine game.

858
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: He just yeah, just twenty seven, big deal.

859
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, which is scary. I mean that is

860
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: scary for the box, like he's going to have, like

861
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: we said, a couple thirty point games in this series.

862
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 1: I just don't see how he doesn't because guy's a bucket,

863
00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: that's what it is.

864
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 3: Did he win that proper, proper?

865
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: No, he did it.

866
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: So he had what did he finished with?

867
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: Twenty six twenty seven and twenty seven twenty seven.

868
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: And it was twenty eight and a half, and he

869
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: had a he had like twenty seven was like six

870
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: minutes ago, five minutes to go, and and he took one.

871
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: He didn't well, he wasn't involved in a lot of

872
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: the action. Actually it was obviously Chris Paul orchestrating a

873
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: bunch of it. But he took a three that would

874
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: have done it and sort of clanked it. If I

875
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: remember correctly.

876
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: Mine was combined points and assists thirty two and a

877
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: half thirty three combined.

878
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 3: So you got.

879
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: Well he was he was playmaking man. Again, I said

880
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: that earlier. He really he's not bad at it, like

881
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: you sort of just think, I don't know, maybe I'm

882
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: still even stuck in this eye like all he's he's

883
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: got blinders on. He's score score score score score. He'll

884
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: kick it to a corner man in stride like he

885
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: finds this guy. So anyway, great game from him despite

886
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: not hitting a bunch of threes, and he will have

887
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: some thirties in this series. I think that's a that's

888
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: a lock, all right.

889
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 4: I think hold on one prop an amazing prop since

890
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 4: we love our man camp Stuart.

891
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 3: I guess his.

892
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 4: Prop was, Okay, PJ Tucker four and a half points

893
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 4: in the first quarter or something. He brought Tucker five points.

894
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

895
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: I mean that sounds crazy. Tucker for a half points? Yeah,

896
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: maybe it was.

897
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 7: Probably like two and a half points, Probably wasn't it.

898
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess yeah, maybe two and a half.

899
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: And that's sick o stuff. That's just man eats those

900
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: chicken wings.

901
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: Man make that money, can't. PJ.

902
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 2: Tucker did have a sick reverse layup in the lane

903
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: in the first quarter. I don't remember ever seeing PJ.

904
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: Tucker make a layup in traffic. That was crazy.

905
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 3: He did it.

906
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: Shoot another one a little later on, like you mentioned

907
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: tasks miss that. I don't know that there are a

908
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: lot of games this season where PJ. Tucker has taken

909
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: to two pointers. Can't be that many.

910
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: That's really not a lot, no for sure. All Right,

911
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: anything else from game one, we'll obviously start looking ahead

912
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 1: to Game two in detail on tomorrow's show on Thursday

913
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: show because game two tips tomorrow night, and he's else

914
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: to add, gentlemen. Mmmmmm okay, let's take a break and

915
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: then we'll get to the updon report back with no

916
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: duncks right into the updown report, all right, First one,

917
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: Alice Cooper, she was not, but we got quite the

918
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: rendition of the US national anthem last night, So JD,

919
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: I want you to get it started up or down

920
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 1: on Judith Hill's Game one national anthem.

921
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm up. I thought it was great. I

922
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 5: thought it was perfect. I'm gonna give it the old

923
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 5: chef's kiss. I don't know if it was just uh,

924
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 5: you know, everybody's still a buzz from fourth of July

925
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 5: or you know Game one NBA Finals National TV And

926
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 5: normally I'm with Lee, I don't love the anthem before

927
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 5: games in general, Like I don't. I don't think it

928
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 5: has to happen every single time at least talked about

929
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 5: this at length, and I agree with him, but you know,

930
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 5: it was appropriate and Judith Hill I actually found it

931
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 5: kind of stirring in a way, just because full arena.

932
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 5: It was the first anthem I've seen at a sporting

933
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 5: event since I mean since the since last last year,

934
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 5: I guess in the bubble. So it was it was great,

935
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 5: I thought. And uh, you know, as far as her performance,

936
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 5: I thought it was awesome. Like it was short, which

937
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 5: I liked.

938
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 3: It was.

939
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 5: Disciplined, not too many. I wouldn't call them runs, you know,

940
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 5: vocal runs. I would call them more flourishes, which I enjoyed.

941
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: Uh.

942
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 5: And then to add to that, the it was beautifully shot,

943
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 5: Like the arena looked great. I love the stage area,

944
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 5: you know. I hope they keep that just being I

945
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 5: like not seeing them on the court. I don't know why,

946
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 5: Like I just think it. I think it looks better,

947
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 5: it's more official, it's more more commanding. Not that her

948
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 5: performance needed to be more commanding. It was like those

949
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 5: first few bars of the anthem, I feel like you

950
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 5: could hear a pin drop in the place right, and

951
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 5: then she hits the bridge or the chorus or whatever,

952
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 5: and a place goes nuts and it was awesome. And

953
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 5: you know, the shots of the players on the court

954
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 5: with that eight the quote unquote ak camera looked awesome.

955
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 3: It was just great. I loved it.

956
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 5: I was surprised at how much I enjoyed the anthem.

957
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: So, for those who don't know, Judith Hill was featured

958
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: in the Michael Jackson documentary This Is It. She was

959
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: a singer at the memorial service. She did heal the world.

960
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: She was also featured in the documentary Twenty Feet from

961
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: Stardom about backup singers. Because of that and Lee did

962
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 1: you know this? She was a contestant on season four

963
00:41:59,480 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: of The.

964
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 6: Voice only because I googled her and read about it.

965
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 6: But it's no, No, I didn't. But I agree with JD.

966
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 6: I thought that was one of the anthems. It was

967
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 6: actually done really well. I think too, it was shot well, JD.

968
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 7: I noticed that.

969
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 6: Whoever's producing this is doing a pretty good job here

970
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 6: or directing. You know, it's all sort of the combined

971
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 6: team work there. But yeah, they nailed it. They knocked

972
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 6: it out of the park. Now we just don't need

973
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 6: it for every game. Okay, we've got one.

974
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: Really good anthem. If it Coast seven, just maybe playing again?

975
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 7: Why not?

976
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 2: Why not?

977
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 6: We saw down at the Fortress when they did the

978
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 6: half court shot with the fan, they pre recorded that

979
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 6: you've got a great anthem.

980
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 7: Now just replay that way.

981
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 6: If it goes game seven week, we can have another anthem.

982
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 6: We just don't need it for every We don't need

983
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 6: it again in forty eight. It's not even forty eight.

984
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 6: It's like thirty six hours time for an how so right?

985
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 6: But yeah, really good job. So she put on a

986
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 6: fantastic performance there.

987
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 5: I mean, whoever's got who's who's ever doing it for

988
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 5: a game two or beyind Yeah, I'm shitting my pants exactly.

989
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: I would not want to prothero that exactly.

990
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be a tough act to follow, no doubt.

991
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: Pass a Trey thumbs up. I'm assuming on the performance.

992
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just happy for JD.

993
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 4: The first basketball game he tunes into since the bubble

994
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: and he gets a performance like that.

995
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 7: You were at the Fortress for a game, though j.

996
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 5: That line, I was standing respectfully with my hat and

997
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 5: over my heart. I can't remember who's saying it though.

998
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: Important I was there for did music soul Child sing

999
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: He sang one of the anthems. So I can't remember

1000
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: which game it was.

1001
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: I was there for one of.

1002
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 3: Them, but I'm I'm with you, JD.

1003
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 4: And that you know, last year the bubble changed things

1004
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 4: and we got to have the referees talk to us

1005
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 4: through the microphone. That that little change just carried over

1006
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 4: to this season. You're talking about the stage because generally

1007
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 4: the rule is the COVID rule is I believe in

1008
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 4: each arena you can't have them have like halftime performances

1009
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 4: or in arena performances on the floor. So maybe this

1010
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 4: does stay. I will say though some of the arenas

1011
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 4: that don't have these eight K cameras, sometimes it looks horrendous.

1012
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it's.

1013
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 4: Because the NBA Finals that, you know, the cameras look amazing,

1014
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 4: But sometimes it looks like we're back at Ryerson University

1015
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 4: and it looks like it looks like a student production

1016
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 4: at times, like the lighting isn't good. Yeah, so they

1017
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 4: they've got to improve that big time. But yeah, some

1018
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 4: of the things are awesome, Like we go down to

1019
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 4: uh State Farm Arena and they've got the the in

1020
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 4: quarter entertainment. They've got whether it's you know, Big Boy

1021
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 4: or somebody hanging with the crowd, like they're literally in

1022
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 4: the crowd because they can't be on the floor.

1023
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 3: And that's amazing. Yeah, I mean some of that stuff

1024
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 3: is so so cool. So yeah, some of that I'd

1025
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: love to see that stick for sure.

1026
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: Trey thumbs up, thumbs down.

1027
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: Good singing, good singing out there?

1028
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: Were you emotional? Did you stand at home? No?

1029
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: No, no, but I saw it. Basketball is a game

1030
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: of runs. The anthem is a game of flourishing.

1031
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: Second one here and the commissioner Adam Silver said Tuesday,

1032
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 1: it's the league's expectation that the play in Tournament, used

1033
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: to do ternamin the seventh and eight seeds in each

1034
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: conference this season, will continue in twenty twenty one, twenty two, Yeah,

1035
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: next season. So we've talked about this a little bit before,

1036
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: but Lee up or down on keeping the play.

1037
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 7: In Tournament double thumbs up for me? Why not?

1038
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 6: Why wouldn't they keep it? I think it's been a

1039
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 6: resounding success in the two seasons that we've seen it

1040
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 6: so far. Not only I think of the games we

1041
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 6: had that incredible Lakers Warriors game in the Western Conference

1042
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 6: this season, but I think in terms of keeping the

1043
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 6: interest and excitement alive for those teams battling to make

1044
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 6: the playoffs. We saw a great run here from the

1045
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 6: Washington Wizards at the end of the season here they

1046
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 6: got into that play in tournament and then went on

1047
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 6: to make the playoffs. So I think there's no reason

1048
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 6: why the NBA would possibly turn away from something like

1049
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,959
Speaker 6: this that has, I believe been extremely successful and worked

1050
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 6: as planned in both aspects as far as now, look,

1051
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 6: we did get a couple of stinkers from the Indiana

1052
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 6: Pacers and the Horners. Okay, fine, we're not going to

1053
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 6: get every single game that is a playing game come

1054
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 6: down to the wire. But overall, I think it's working

1055
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 6: by both both parts, keeping interest for the season and

1056
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 6: then the intrigue as to which team will sneak in

1057
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 6: to the playoffs. And at some point some team's going

1058
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 6: to go on that run, they're going to get into

1059
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 6: the playing tournament, and they're going to upset one of

1060
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 6: the high seated teams. So there's no reason for me

1061
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 6: to think they would turn away from this, right now.

1062
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 4: You agree, tas, Yeah, I think for the first season

1063
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 4: in a long time, there wasn't a lot of talk

1064
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 4: about tanking during the entire season. Now, okay see were

1065
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 4: the tankers that took all the tanking talk. But I

1066
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 4: think at the beginning of last season there was enough

1067
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 4: incentive for twenty nine teams to be going for those

1068
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 4: twenty playoff spots. Call it whatever you want, but there's

1069
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,959
Speaker 4: twenty spots. I don't think any team would say, okay

1070
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 4: see was tanking at the beginning of the season. So

1071
00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 4: that's that's a big positive for the league. The black

1072
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 4: marks that we've always talked about is they got a

1073
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 4: get some way, somehow to incentivize enough teams to not tank.

1074
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that part of it is huge.

1075
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 4: Plus we got, yeah, the couple weeks of basketball there. Now,

1076
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 4: I don't know, there could be some tweaks. Short in

1077
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 4: the season a little bit. I mean, we have to

1078
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 4: see eighty two games, no for no, probably not for

1079
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 4: a little elimination game to you know, he played the

1080
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 4: two games to get bopped out by in one game.

1081
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: It's baseball esque. I think we could shorten it a bit.

1082
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 4: But yeah, overall, great, great start, Maybe a couple tweaks Tray.

1083
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: Double thumbs up. I'm just likely here. I thought it

1084
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: was awesome. And the crazy thing about the play in

1085
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 2: tournament is, Yeah, there's the tournament at the end, which,

1086
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 2: like you're saying, Lea, we had a dud from the Pacers,

1087
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 2: we had a dud from the Hornets. On the flip side,

1088
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: we got Lebron versus stuff, got that crazy shot from

1089
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 2: Lebron almost at half court. Lost to the ether forever,

1090
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: but we remember it because we were there. But the

1091
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: other thing about it the games at the end, they

1092
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 2: obviously matter, but it makes the tournament is really like

1093
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 2: the last month of the season, right, Like that's the thing.

1094
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: The race for it and keeping everybody involved is so

1095
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: huge that at the end of it, yeah, you got

1096
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: to see who actually pulls out the wins in the

1097
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 2: game in the tournament to see who makes the playoffs.

1098
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: But just having that stretch down at the end is

1099
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 2: giving you know, young teams who don't really have anything

1100
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: to play for. It's giving them games that actually matter.

1101
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 2: It's putting them in almost a playoff sort of atmosphere

1102
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: where every single win matters. You got to perform every

1103
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: single night. It's good for the competition in the league,

1104
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: and it's good for us to have stuff to talk about, because,

1105
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: like Tessa is saying, there are teams that were tanking

1106
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: down the stretch, right, but we didn't care at all.

1107
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 2: It's like Houston, see you later. Nobody cares. If you're

1108
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: losing a bunch of games, you traded your best player.

1109
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: That was the point the Thunder sat down there, guys,

1110
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: nobody cared. That was the point. Even the Raptors they

1111
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 2: tank to get out of the play in tournament. Nobody

1112
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: cares because we actually have things that matter. When half

1113
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: the league gives up, that's a problem. When only five

1114
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: teams gives up, that's okay.

1115
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. I see the stream team generally thumbs up on

1116
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: this continuing the playing tournament, but a lot of people say, hey,

1117
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: let's just not go overboard and have also a mid

1118
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: season tournament, because remember Lee Silver had talked about that.

1119
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: He wanted that whole like soccer angle football angle of like,

1120
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: oh maybe we have another tournament, you know, halfway through

1121
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: the season.

1122
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 3: Now.

1123
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: I don't think he said anything about that last night

1124
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: in the press conference, But do you agree with like, Okay,

1125
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: let's just roll with this if we can shorten the season.

1126
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna do that. I think we're

1127
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: gonna go back TODTD two here, So maybe that has

1128
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: an impact on this playing tournament.

1129
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: Who knows.

1130
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: We'll see, But do you want a mid season tournament

1131
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: as well? Are you good with just the playing at

1132
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: the end of the season to determine the seventh and

1133
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: eight seeds.

1134
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 6: Look, Adam Silva wanted the playing tournament, and he got it.

1135
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 6: He wants this extra sort of socker style tournament. I

1136
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 6: think it is just a matter of time before we

1137
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 6: get it. I think whether it only lasts a season

1138
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 6: or two or three, maybe, I think it is gonna happen,

1139
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 6: and I think it is gonna be a bit of

1140
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 6: a compromise. It's like, to the owners, you're not gonna

1141
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 6: lose out on your money, per say, by cutting down

1142
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 6: the home and away games, the regular season games from

1143
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 6: eighty two to a figure, let's say seventy five or

1144
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 6: something like that.

1145
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 7: In exchange, we're going to give.

1146
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 6: You this mid season tournament that's going to have incentives

1147
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 6: that make it worth your while to try to compete

1148
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 6: and to win this.

1149
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 7: Whether that's draft picks, whether that's.

1150
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,959
Speaker 6: Some other form of you know, priority seeding, maybe something

1151
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 6: like that in place. I don't know exactly what it is,

1152
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,959
Speaker 6: but I think it is just a matter I think

1153
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 6: because of the coronavirus situation, you know, for the last

1154
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 6: season and this season already those seasons being interrupted, I

1155
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 6: think it's probably delayed it by a year or two.

1156
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 6: But I think it's just a matter of when that happens,

1157
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 6: not if it happens.

1158
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 7: I think I.

1159
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 6: Think probably not next season, because I think there's no

1160
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 6: international games as well for next season. I think Adam

1161
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 6: Silm said that yesterday, But I would be surprised if

1162
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 6: starting in the say twenty two twenty three season, we

1163
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 6: don't have some sort of you know, shortened regular season

1164
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 6: in exchange for some sort of mid season tournament.

1165
00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 7: I think it's just it's a matter of time before.

1166
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 1: But the tournament could be a part of the regular

1167
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: season too, right, Yeah.

1168
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 7: I mean it could be. Yeah, it don't have to

1169
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 7: be one of the other The main.

1170
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 6: Point I'm trying to make is you're going to play

1171
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 6: as close to eighty two games, whether or not that

1172
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 6: is an adjustment of the regular season or not, because

1173
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 6: the owners aren't gonna want to miss out on that revenue.

1174
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 6: But Adam Silver has been persuasive, and the fact that

1175
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,959
Speaker 6: this playing tournament has worked, I think gives Adam Silver

1176
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 6: a lot more sort of power to be able to

1177
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 6: then present this new idea to the owners to see

1178
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 6: if that also works. So, yeah, it's gonna happen, I believe.

1179
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely. It's definitely more drastic some sort of

1180
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: mid season tournament than what we have here with the

1181
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: play in Tournament, which is really just like incentivizing these

1182
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: teams to like still, hey, keep trying to win games

1183
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 1: and try and have a chance to be the ninth

1184
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 1: or tenth sey to have a chance to be actually

1185
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. But yeah, who knows what he has

1186
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: in mind even for this potential mid season tournament. It's

1187
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: tough to get too worked up about it until you

1188
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: sort of know what the actual details are. I'm hesitant

1189
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: to think it would work all that well because it's

1190
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: like what you get down to, like what would they

1191
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: be playing for? Like why would they care? What does

1192
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: it matter? And we don't know the answers to that,

1193
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: if there if any tray, So I guess we'll just

1194
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:09,959
Speaker 1: wait to see.

1195
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, we shall see. I would be confident, though, I

1196
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 2: would think a mid season tournament would actually work, because

1197
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: we've seen two different versions of the play in tournament

1198
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: and they were both awesome, and one of the unseen

1199
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 2: consequences or unforeseen consequences of the play in tournament I think,

1200
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: was the race for the sixth seed as well. So, yeah,

1201
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: if you throw in this mid season tournament and you

1202
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: offer the players I don't know, ten million to split

1203
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 2: between them, because I don't really think that players care

1204
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 2: about winning a draft pick for their franchise, a player

1205
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 2: that's going to be replacing them, but a little bit

1206
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: of money, nobody says no to that. You start playing

1207
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: for something that's seriously important in the mid season tournament.

1208
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 2: Maybe there are different rules as well, you know, like

1209
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, soccer teams have all these different qualifiers

1210
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 2: where you can only use such and such an age

1211
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 2: limit of guys or something like that. Maybe you do

1212
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 2: something that encourages teams to build their bench all the

1213
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 2: way down to number fifteen, and you're playing those role

1214
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: players bigger minutes in the mid season tournament, that could

1215
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: be exciting too.

1216
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: All right, let's end with some Olympics talk here. Kevin

1217
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: Love he heard the blowback when he scored a spot

1218
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: there on the US national team ahead of the Tokyo

1219
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: Olympics after one of the worst seasons of his career. Yeah, bad,

1220
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: heear it didn't play a lot. And Greg Popovich he

1221
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: heard the blowback too, but he had a message for

1222
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: the haters on Tuesday.

1223
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: Quote, We're going to work his ass off.

1224
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: He's talking about Kevin Love over the next four or

1225
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: five weeks here and demand a lot. End quote That

1226
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: was pop talking about Kevin Love. Are you up or

1227
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: down though on Love getting one of these Team USA spots?

1228
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: Tk Oh, I'm majorly up on this. When the rosters

1229
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: were first announced, Kevin Love was the guy that kind

1230
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: of caught my eye instantly. I said it on the

1231
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 2: first show that we recorded. I love this. He's this

1232
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 2: edition of Team USA's Carmelo Anthony back for the first

1233
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: time since twenty twelve. He's the vet who's going to

1234
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: make shots and knows how to play Internationally. People have

1235
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: forgotten that Kevin Love is good at this point. I

1236
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 2: think he shot thirty six and a half percent from

1237
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 2: three on this Calves team for the past three seasons,

1238
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: despite the fact that he clearly doesn't want to be

1239
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 2: a Cleveland Cavalier anymore. And for me, that's why I

1240
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: really like this actually, because for Kevin Love, it's an audition.

1241
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 2: He's going to show the stars. He's going to show

1242
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: the other coaches there, the talent evaluators who are kind

1243
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: of just checking out the game, seeing how people are playing,

1244
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 2: how they're blending. He's still got the game to help

1245
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: a contender. And I still believe in Kevin Love. He's

1246
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 2: going to be the next Blake Griffin. Get him in

1247
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 2: a better situation, you get a better effort. And that's

1248
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 2: why this is even good for the Cleveland Cavaliers because

1249
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: Kevin Love has been banged up since Lebron James left.

1250
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 2: He only played twenty five games last season, and it

1251
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 2: feels like he only makes news right now for being

1252
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: upset with the Cleveland Cavaliers. If he has a good

1253
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 2: summer with Team USA, it reminds people what he can offer.

1254
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: That makes it a lot easier for the Calves to

1255
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 2: trade him. Basically, the only thing that could go wrong

1256
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 2: here is if Kevin Love somehow picks up an injury

1257
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 2: during the summer, and obviously that would be a disaster.

1258
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 2: But I think this is good. You know, I don't

1259
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: know that Kevin Love is going to be getting a

1260
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: ton of minutes for Team USA, but I think he'll

1261
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: have some valuable moments out there, probably had a big

1262
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 2: three that swings the momentum at some point.

1263
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: All right, So TK has it as a win win

1264
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: win for the Cavs, for Love and for Team USA

1265
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: and Pop trying to get his first gold medal. You

1266
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: agree to.

1267
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 4: Us, Yeah, for sure, there's not as much space to

1268
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 4: cover for Kevin Love on the international floor.

1269
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 3: That helps.

1270
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 4: Second, Yeah, he wasn't good for the Cleveland Cavaliers because

1271
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 4: he was done with the Cleveland Cavaliers. He obviously could have,

1272
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 4: you know, acted a little bit differently in his Cleveland

1273
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 4: Calves days. For sure, comport himself a little bit better.

1274
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 4: I'm sure they would have liked that. But at the

1275
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 4: same time, it is like Blake Griffin. He's going to go,

1276
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 4: you know, into this environment and play with great players

1277
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 4: and show how great he is. He's going to be better. Yeah,

1278
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 4: as far as his NBA career, he's going to be

1279
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 4: thirty three next year. He does get banged up all

1280
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 4: the time. Of course, a team could buy in on

1281
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 4: what he's doing and see what he's he's perform how

1282
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 4: he's performing there for the US team. But it's three

1283
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 4: seasons and a monster deal left. You really got to

1284
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 4: buy it. You really got to buy it to pay

1285
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 4: him for thirty mili for each of these three seasons.

1286
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 4: I mean, he's talented enough obviously to get paid that much.

1287
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 4: He's earned that money throughout his NBA career, but he

1288
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 4: does get banged up a lot.

1289
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 3: It does stink.

1290
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Speaker 4: I remember sitting, you know, with Trey we were doing

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Speaker 4: our Cleveland Cavs preview as soon as Kevin Love signed

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Speaker 4: that contract, and we both were sort of of the opinion, like,

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Speaker 4: he's got the talent to be a number one guy.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, if you're banged up for

1295
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Speaker 4: you're old, if you can't move that much, he can

1296
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 4: probably showcase himself as a small ball five in this

1297
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 4: US tournament and that's probably a lot of his future

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Speaker 4: in the NBA. But I don't know it'd be it'd

1299
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 4: be putting a lot of stock into him. If you're

1300
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,959
Speaker 4: gonna say, like if you're the Blazers, if you can

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Speaker 4: pull it off and say, yeah, he can be our

1302
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 4: four and R five, But you's gonna rely on him

1303
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 4: a ton, so hopefully he stays healthy. I mean, that's

1304
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 4: the biggest quest sure with Kevin Love at all times. But

1305
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 4: he's got the talent. Obviously, he's a fun dude to

1306
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 4: watch when he's got a god.

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Speaker 1: So Pop made the call to offer the spot to

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00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: love Lely. He said his ability to shoot and then

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00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: be a big guy in the paint there fighting for

1310
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: boards could be valuable, especially when you go up against

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00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: some of those you know, older, crafty, big European squads.

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Speaker 1: Do you buy that? Does it make sense for Pop

1313
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: to reach out to love and get that sort of

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Speaker 1: veteranship on this team.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: One thing I do know about Greg Popovic when it

1317
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 6: comes to Team USA is don't ever question anybody's credits

1318
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 6: or ability to perform, or the fact that they're even

1319
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 6: on that team. Because in Australia when tam USA played

1320
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 6: Australia was at all those scrums there and a couple

1321
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Speaker 6: of times some of the local reporters said to Pop like,

1322
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 6: you know, is it harder to coach his team knowing

1323
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 6: this is like a third string USA team? And he

1324
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 6: did not like that at all. He does not like

1325
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 6: anyone sort of thinking like, ah, you haven't seen out

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00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 6: your best players. So if Greg Popovic believes you are

1327
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 6: deserving to be on Team USA, then that's it.

1328
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Speaker 7: There's no quiet estion.

1329
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 6: You are deserving to be fine to be on that spot,

1330
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 6: and Greg Popovich is going to expect you to perform

1331
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 6: as well. He's not just taking anyone out there to

1332
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 6: Tokyo for a holiday. He's going out there to win

1333
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 6: a gold medal. And so if he feels Kevin Love

1334
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 6: can contribute, whether you know, it's not going to play

1335
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 6: a ton of minutes, I don't think. But again, a

1336
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 6: big guy who can spread the floor and grab those rebounds,

1337
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 6: and he's got those great outlet passes as well. That's

1338
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 6: a part of the sort of international game. So he's

1339
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 6: going to be expected to perform. But just don't don't

1340
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 6: go to Popovich and say, you know, wasn't there someone better?

1341
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 6: You know, are you disappointed he disappointed someone sort of

1342
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 6: turned down an invitation or something like that.

1343
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 7: He hates that.

1344
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he left bam Adebayo off the twenty nineteen Feeble

1345
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 2: World Cup team and decided to roll with Miles Turner,

1346
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 2: Mason Blumley and another big guy who I forget, Brook Lopez.

1347
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 2: So I don't know if Greg Popovitch is one hundred

1348
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 2: percent right on his calls here, but he's going to

1349
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: be right on Kevin Love.

1350
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: Let's get to tweeted the night.

1351
00:58:53,200 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 3: Tweed overnight Wow Twitter. Yeah.

1352
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 6: Well, speaking of Olympics, got some breaking news out of

1353
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 6: Australia this morning when it was revealed that Paddy Mills,

1354
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 6: who was making his fourth Olympics, is going to be

1355
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 6: the flag bearer, the co flag bearer for Australia, along

1356
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 6: with female swimmer Kate Campbell. So I'm very very excited

1357
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 6: for Patty Mills. I think he's fully deserving. He becomes

1358
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 6: the first Indigenous Australian to carry the flag at an

1359
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 6: Olympics game's opening ceremony. So Patty Mills has been a

1360
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 6: fantastic an Olympian for Australia. I would love it. This

1361
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 6: is likely to be his last Olympics too. I would

1362
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 6: love it if he could close out with any medal.

1363
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 6: Any medal will do. Australia's never medaled at the Olympics,

1364
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 6: have been very great close men have never medal at

1365
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 6: the Olympics. Australian women have medaled several times. But I

1366
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 6: would love it if Paddy could go out there, you know,

1367
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 6: and finally secure a medal for Australia.

1368
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 7: It'd be great.

1369
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 6: And Kate Campbell's two time Olympian gold medals as well.

1370
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 6: Fantastic for her to also be the co bearer of

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00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 6: the Australian flag. Citing news from Australia, you said, this is.

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Speaker 1: Paddy Mill's fourth Olympic Games.

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01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 2: Wow.

1374
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.

1375
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1376
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: He feels like forever young to me. Yeah, right, Like

1377
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: I just don't think of him as an older guy.

1378
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 6: But his career started I think two thousand and eight

1379
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 6: with the Blazers, so thirteen year NBA veteran there.

1380
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing, all right, Well, congrats to him. Awesome stuff.

1381
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: I saw that going around. I was I was excited

1382
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: as well for that Lee. I love a good flag bearer.

1383
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 6: I think I think Paddy Mills finished like third in

1384
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 6: scoring at the last Olympics if I remember it correctly.

1385
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 6: He lifts his game for the Olympics.

1386
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 3: Sobout Paddy is real.

1387
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he loves that Molten ball. I was getting the call, mean,

1388
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: like I think somebody.

1389
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: I think somebody is calling Laura on her phone, but

1390
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 2: it's coming through on her iPad, which I'm seeing as

1391
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 2: a cross away straight. Yeah, I'm like I'm looking at

1392
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: my phone. I know it's in my room, but this

1393
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 2: thing ain't popping off, so I don't know. Maybe I

1394
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: got to go check in on something I don't really think,

1395
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: so I'd rather talk about the olymp with my friends.

1396
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 2: Are the Is the Australian team looking good for a medal?

1397
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 2: Come the Olympics. I know there's a lot of new

1398
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: teams making it to the Olympics for their first time

1399
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 2: against Slovenia's first time. Germany hasn't been there in forever,

1400
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 2: so the Aussies are at least a well established team

1401
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 2: in the.

1402
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 6: Mids well so in the past, guys like Aaron Baynes

1403
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 6: and Andrew Bogan have played incredibly well. In fact, Andrew

1404
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 6: Boger played so well the last Olympics in Real. I

1405
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 6: think that's why he got a contract with the Dallas

1406
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 6: Mavericks after that, because he was so impressive, so they

1407
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 6: DELI steps up. You know, we've got those battles out there.

1408
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 6: I don't believe Josh Giddy, the draft prospect, is going

1409
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 6: to play. I think he has been. He didn't make

1410
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 6: the final cut, but Josh Green the Dallas Maverick, he

1411
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 6: should be playing there. Ben Simmons, of course he's working

1412
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 6: on his game there smooching his girlfriend of Wimbledon, so

1413
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 6: he can't make the Olympics.

1414
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 7: So look Australia.

1415
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 6: Brian Gorgin I believe is the coach again as well.

1416
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 6: He's been an Australian basketball coaching legend, second probably only

1417
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 6: to Lindsay as far as coaching victories in the Australian game.

1418
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 6: So I always feel that Australia just steps up at

1419
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 6: the Olympics and the World Championships.

1420
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 7: So, ah, man, can we sneak it? We're probably gonna

1421
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 7: finish fourth. We always finished fourth. We always like.

1422
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 6: Last time we beat Serbia, I believe, who then went

1423
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 6: on to finish second to the USA. We beat Serber

1424
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 6: in that first game. We beat France in that first round.

1425
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 6: Then we lost to Spain on free throws. Ah my god,

1426
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 6: it was crazy. So you have an Australian jersey, not

1427
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 6: a basketball jersey. I've got a soccer jersey that I.

1428
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 3: Wear, right, yeah right, yeah, yeah, I.

1429
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 6: Mean you get a basketball you know what I think

1430
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 6: I will? I think this is this, Yeah, get party, Yeah,

1431
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 6: I should. You're right, You're right, I should get Patty all.

1432
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: Right, congrats with Patty Mells. And that's that's pretty awesome news.

1433
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: Let's call it there, boys back tomorrow to set up

1434
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: Game two of the NBA Finals on Thursday night. So

1435
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: join us here at live at ten a m Eastern

1436
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: on YouTube. Shout out to the stream team, Thank you

1437
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: so much for joining us here today. Keep your questions

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Speaker 1: was reading it this morning and that's about it. We

1446
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: will see you guys tomorrow morning at tennem Eastern Live.

1447
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,439
Speaker 2: Clipper Bros. You heard it here first. Have a great time,

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Speaker 2: turn up. Love you guys, awesome.

1449
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us.

1450
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 4: I remember I've got a question for you NBA sickos.

1451
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 4: I don't know what tampering is in the NBA anymore.

1452
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 4: Like Lebron posts this yesterday as soon as Chris Paul

1453
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 4: wins one down, three to go CP three tampering or

1454
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 4: is that just cheering on a fellow NBA player and being.

1455
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 3: A friend, buddy, Man, he's just a free agent.

1456
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you're right.

1457
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 3: You know what, you're right, You're right. Family friends, that's right,

1458
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 3: that's great.

1459
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: It's everything, man, Yeah, family is everything.

1460
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 3: Can't wait for the Fast and Friends podcast.

1461
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: Hello, oh yeah, about a month out from the debut

1462
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: of God Fast Friends. We're going with that's right. Yeah,

1463
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: we were Fast and Furious in us A bit of

1464
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: a mouthful for being honest. I think it looks better

1465
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: than to say it out loud. Is fast Friends?

1466
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 3: Keep it a simple quick off the time for sure?

1467
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's right. So anyway, that's coming in a

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01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: month or so. But we'll talk. We'll talk about how

1469
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: Fast and Furious when we get there. We got basketball,

1470
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: talk about it. Embrace the day, people, you could stay

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01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: every day.

1472
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 4: And day happy, every minute.

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01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 2: It's been so long with your mona way.

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Speaker 4: It's happened already. It's kinda be grevy