1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: This week's special wind Down episode guest, We've got Zibbi 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 2: Allen coming on and I Kristin I cannot wait to 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: chat with her because I mean, I just worked with 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: her co star Ben Hollingsworth on the Christmas Ring and 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: she's married to, I believe, a Scotsman. 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 3: I don't really know. I think she got married in Scotland. 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: I can't keep track of where Zibby Ellen is. She's 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 3: a busy, busy lady she is. She's one of the 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 3: stars of Virgin River. And she has a new movie 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: coming out called The Pickleball Christmas, which premieres on Lifetime Saturday, 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: December twentieth, which we love Lifetime. So let's get her 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 3: on and chat all the things. 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: Hi, how are you? I'm good? How are you, ladies? 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm good, Zibby. 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: Where in the world is Zibby Allen is our new 17 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: segment because you are a time splitter in Scotland. 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: Here in the wait, Vancouver and. 19 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 4: Vancouver, Georgia. You know Georgia, yes, and then Scotland. 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: We're never right now. I'm in none of those places. 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: Where are you? 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 4: I'm in Dallas right now. I flew from Scotland last night. 23 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 4: I'm here for an event, so okay, background. 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: So I got it. 25 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: I have to ask because I'm also married to a 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: Scottish Man. So one of the first things. So I 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: just worked with Ben on a movie in the summertime. 28 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: Yes, Christian a Christmas Ring, the christ Christmas Ring. 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 30 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And he was obviously talking all about you, and 31 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: he's like, he's like my love interest on Virgin River, 32 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: like she's married to a Scotsman. I was like, oh, 33 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: I was like, and so we chatted about that, but 34 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: so does he. I'm confused because he's like, he said, 35 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: you guys go there a lot. 36 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: So does he live? Like where does he live? 37 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: I need to understand because it's like I've I love Scotland, 38 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: but I've only been there twice. Oh really, Okay, we 39 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: got we got married there what part of Scotland? We 40 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: got married outside of Glasgow because he's from Glasgow, born 41 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: and raised, right, and then it was in a castle 42 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: somewhere outside, like forty minutes outside of Glasgow. 43 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: Love. 44 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 4: We also got married in a castle in Scotland, just 45 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 4: like minutes north of Edinburgh. Okay, So first My husband's 46 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 4: actually from Northern Ireland, but he went to university and Edinburgh. 47 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 4: I had been living there. Edinburgh's just like forty minute 48 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 4: train ride from Glasgow. 49 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: Yep, it's all small. 50 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 4: Compared to like the United States anyway. And so when 51 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 4: we met, he had been living there for years, and 52 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 4: so we would go back every year to see now 53 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 4: our friends, his friend's now ours and family because from 54 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 4: Scotland it's like a twenty minute flight to Northern Ireland 55 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 4: for years, and then in the last couple of years 56 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 4: we were like, we love it here so much, so 57 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 4: we're kind of evenly splitting our time between. It's like 58 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 4: halftime Scotland and then we split between Vancouver and Georgia 59 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 4: where we have a house. 60 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: And in the rest of the. 61 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: Time, where in Scotland are you living, We're in Edinburgh, 62 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: you are okay. So he was, yeah, born and raised 63 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: in Glasgow. And then when we went to our wedding, 64 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: we flew obviously into Glasgow, and we were gonna go 65 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: because my best girlfriend and my other girlfriend came and 66 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: they were going to Edinburgh for to see the castle, 67 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: and but my kids all got sick the week of 68 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: our wedding, so we canceled. 69 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: I've never even been there. It's so stunning and so fun. 70 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: I've only we only went to Stirling Castle because that 71 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: was the closest thing and because the kids were sick, 72 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: so I'm like, oh, let's do something, you know, and 73 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: they were feeling like okay to like walk a little bit, 74 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: you know, and oh she's timing and it's fun and 75 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: it's easy. 76 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: But my husband like never once. I'm like, hey, do 77 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: you want to go for Christmas? Do you want to go? 78 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: And he's like, no, it's. 79 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 4: Okay because when you grow up there, it's like less 80 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 4: of a thing. And see for Adam, my husband, he 81 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: didn't grow up in Scotland. He grew up in northern 82 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 4: and so it really hits difference. You're totally difment five. 83 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: But you're so right. It's so charming. Every time I 84 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: step outside, I'm like, am I. 85 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: In a movie? Like it's just it's a movie. Yeah, 86 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: it's beautiful. Where did you grow up, Zibby? I grew 87 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: up in San Francisco. 88 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: I really am to go. 89 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: Where in the world is Ziby Allen? Is part of 90 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: my life? 91 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 4: Well? 92 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: Why Georgia? 93 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 4: Listen? 94 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: Random? 95 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: But can you grab a globe real quick and just 96 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: to help us drop some pinpoints. 97 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 4: My goal is just like global domination by way of 98 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: living there for longer than a year each. No. So, 99 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 4: my co star on Virgin River, Alexandra Breckenbridge, she lived 100 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 4: in Georgia, and so we got really close after my 101 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: first year on the show, and she was like, girl, 102 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: come visit me in Georgia. I swear you're gonna want 103 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 4: to move to this town which I won't name right 104 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 4: now because it's too small to Yeah. So I was like, 105 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 4: all due respect, it's Georgia. Like I don't think I'm 106 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 4: a San Francisco girl, Like I don't think I'm gonna 107 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 4: want to live there. 108 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: She's like, just come. 109 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 4: So we went out there and we were like, oh no, 110 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 4: we love it here. 111 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: We love it here. 112 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 4: So we instantly, like I think within six months, bought 113 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 4: a house there. 114 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: That's do you know? That's what I did with Ben 115 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: and Nila. 116 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm like you've heard all about this, like 117 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 4: we're recruiting. 118 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: I mean I literally like I fell in love with 119 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: both of them, Like they're beautiful people, love their family, 120 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: and I'm like, you're moving here, and it's like now 121 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: they're looking at homes I'm like. 122 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, would you like to homeschool? I 123 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: have a co op for you? What else do they need? 124 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 4: Kramer, I'm so all about this mission for them. Like 125 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 4: I'm really he told me all about it. I know 126 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 4: you eat like you seduced them hard. But they're so 127 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 4: lovely and I can still see them there. 128 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: But it's just the same thing. You get that vibe. 129 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: It's like I think if you came here too, you'd 130 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 2: be like, oh, I love it here. It's so great, 131 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: you know. So it's like because Georgia, Tennessee, they have 132 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: that same sweetness to it. Yes. 133 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 4: In fact, my girlfriend just moved to Tennessee and she's like, 134 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 4: you should move here. 135 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: You're gonna love it. Like when you come visit, go 136 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: plant your roots. There'd be one more little address. 137 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 4: Change pack my flag on just another spot. 138 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: I'm here for it. Why isn't to Georgia for Thanksgiving? 139 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: And I'm wondering if we went, if we can talk 140 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: about this later, Yeah, the same area. Yeah, because it 141 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: was so romantic. It was ever it was the sweet 142 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 3: spot of America. I said to my best friend, You've 143 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: done it, you have found it, You've won the grand prize. 144 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's magic game spot. We'll talk. 145 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 4: It is magical. It's really special. It's hard to resist 146 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 4: because it feels like one of the last really like 147 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 4: in Earnest, safe community based, like really a wholesome, beautiful communities, 148 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 4: and they're they're up to some really cool stuff just 149 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 4: in terms of quality of life. 150 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: How did you meet your husband? 151 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 4: So I was doing the Edinburgh Fringe. I don't know 152 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 4: if you know about it. That it's like the annual 153 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 4: huge theater fringe festival that happens in Edinburgh and like 154 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 4: the city quadruples in population for the month of August 155 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 4: when it happens. And so I was out there doing 156 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 4: weirdly two plays. This is now like ten years ago, 157 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 4: and Adam was running a restaurant, a Mexican restaurant of 158 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 4: all things, down the road from the venue where I was. 159 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 4: So I'd walk by. 160 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: His place like multiple times a day and he'd. 161 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 4: Always be like in the doorway, like having a cigarettet 162 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 4: the time. 163 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: He's most and I. 164 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm mysterious, Oh my gosh, I was 165 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 4: like he's I'm sure he has a Scottish accent. He 166 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 4: has a northern Irish accent, which is as sexy. We 167 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 4: should talk about how you feel about Husban's accent, Like 168 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 4: I just. 169 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: Love very ps I love you. Yeah. I. 170 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Alan, her husband's always liked are you You're staring 171 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 3: at my mouth and I'm like, yes, Alan, because I 172 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: just have to be able. 173 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: I have to be able to know what you say. 174 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: So I'm not asking you to repeat. Listen. 175 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 4: There are certain friends of ours in Scotland who I 176 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 4: still don't understand. 177 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: Like oh, his father, his father and his brother because 178 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: they talked Glasswegian and I'm like, I don't understand one 179 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: word that has come. 180 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: Out of it. 181 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 4: That's like a specific region of Scotland. One of my 182 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 4: best girlfriends is Glass Region, and it's like I have 183 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 4: to play her voice notes like on slow Weez, I 184 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 4: have to slow hers down. We have this app where 185 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 4: I can slow hers down anyway because she's so hard 186 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 4: to understand. Yeah, yeah, anyway. So the Adam and I, 187 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 4: I just walked by all the time and I was 188 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 4: like pretty sure he liked my butt and I thought 189 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 4: he was cute. It was going to be a cute hookup. 190 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 4: And then I had two weeks left on my trip 191 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 4: and so we really were just hanging out and not 192 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 4: even hooking up. 193 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: Because like we were both shy. 194 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 4: It was really strange, but every time we were apart, 195 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 4: it physically hurt and it didn't make any sense and 196 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 4: not open for business. I was not looking for anything 197 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 4: serious and certainly not anything as inconvenient as being you know, 198 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: at the time, I was in La. 199 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: So that was gonna be insane. 200 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 4: But we did just accidentally fall for each other. And 201 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 4: then I extended my trip by ten days after the 202 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 4: show was over because I found a cheap ticket and 203 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 4: he was like, we should go see more of Scotland 204 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: while you're here, and so we took a road trip 205 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 4: to the Isle of Sky and I'll make this quick. 206 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 4: But on our way, my mom was texting me being like, Zibbi, 207 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 4: where are you And I'm like, Mom, I with a 208 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 4: really cute guy and this we're going to the super 209 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 4: cute sounding place called the Isle of Sky. Don't worry 210 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 4: about it. And she nearly died because that same week 211 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 4: she was deep into our family genealogy and she had 212 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 4: just discovered that our family lineage is not only Scottish 213 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 4: on her mom's side, but originated on the Isle of 214 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 4: Sky and so she's sending me like articles and names, 215 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 4: and then a drop in to where it was said 216 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 4: that my great great great grandmother Florence McKinnon was buried, 217 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 4: who I didn't even know existed until that moment. So 218 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 4: as we're driving onto the Isle of Sky, we're then 219 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 4: suddenly looking for the gravesite of my great great great 220 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 4: grandmother Florence McKinnon, and we didn't find it in this 221 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 4: old ruin of a parish and that was it. We 222 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 4: were done. We're like, we'll be back here in a 223 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 4: year and we'll get married. 224 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: It's fine. Oh and then how soon did you guys 225 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: get married? 226 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 4: We then got married, like I think two years later, 227 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 4: three years later, sweet, very romantic. 228 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: Was kids in ever in the picture for you guys? 229 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: Or is it still? Or is it? 230 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 4: Was? 231 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: It one of those things where it was just work 232 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: And then you. 233 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 4: Know we don't want children now. I mean, it's not 234 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 4: that we don't want them. We have this deep, deep 235 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 4: need for community and we have a lot of love 236 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 4: to give. It's one of the reasons why that town 237 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 4: in Georgia really spoke to us, and why so much 238 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 4: of where we go is about the people. 239 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: That we love. 240 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 4: But as time went on, you know, like I ray, 241 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 4: it's hard. 242 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: To say, I. 243 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 4: Somehow accidentally became sort of a matriarch figure in my 244 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 4: own family, and I feel like I spent a lot 245 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 4: of time with my own family caring for my siblings 246 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 4: in this way that even as a sister, there's like 247 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 4: a lot of worry and a lot of vulnerability and 248 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 4: a lot of years spent in that. And so there's 249 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 4: something really beautiful about being able to give my attention 250 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 4: to just my partner and my career, which started to 251 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 4: blossom a little bit later, sort of second chapter in 252 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 4: my world. And so the appeal of having children lessened, 253 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 4: especially as Adam and I learned that we really love 254 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 4: being global, and it's been so special for us because 255 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: most of our friends have children now to be really 256 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: sincerely in our friends' children's lives and meaningful way, and 257 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 4: not only that, in our friend who have children in 258 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 4: their lives and being invested in their mental health and 259 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 4: their own individuality and still showing up for yes, their children, 260 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 4: but also for them. And we feel like we're somehow 261 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 4: like getting that fulfillment in this very specific role that 262 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 4: I think is rarely felt like when we're in such 263 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 4: especially in America, it's so individualist. It's so like, you know, 264 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 4: you can get everyone together for brunch, but you'd be 265 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 4: hard pressed to get a friend to pick you up 266 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 4: to the airport type thing. And we have the freedom 267 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 4: to shift that a little bit because not having children 268 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 4: of our own. So that's my very long winded answer 269 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 4: to your question. 270 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: It's a really sweet answer though, because it is such 271 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: a busy I know, like Jan and I for sure, 272 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: we're transplants as well. We're both actually from Michigan, but 273 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: didn't know each other growing up. And it's really relieving 274 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: to me because we've I know for sure, and I 275 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: would just going to speak for both of us because 276 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: we're a power couple, but I feel like we default 277 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: often to just like we have to either pay our 278 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: help or we just don't get help. And so when 279 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: there actually is this like lending of a hand or 280 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: this aspect of community, it's I it almost like brings 281 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: me to tears. 282 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 3: And then I'm like, well, wait, what should I do 283 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 3: for them? Should I give them a gift basket? Because 284 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: I don't know how to receive. And I grew up 285 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 3: very much watching my friend's kids and helping, you know, 286 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: in our my small town where I came from, it 287 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: was prom engagement babies. So because I was a later mom, 288 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 3: everyone I had the ability ahead a career, but I 289 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: could come hold a baby, or throw a baby shower, 290 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: or you know, bring a dinner postpartum, and it's so invaluable. 291 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 3: And to have someone that has a heart like yours 292 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: an insight like you to be able to pour into 293 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: those kids is going to be absolutely like just immeasurable 294 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: for those little humans. So that's a really special role 295 00:12:59,040 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: to play. 296 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 4: It's true joy likes. It's honestly it hurts. The only 297 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 4: thing about moving around so much is that when we 298 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 4: miss chunks of time in our friends' kids' lives where 299 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: they've grown, you know, like two inches since you left them, 300 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 4: it feels sort of ache because you're like, oh, I'm 301 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 4: missing out, But it is I really get what you're saying, 302 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 4: especially about that thing where like when somebody does something 303 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 4: for you out of pure kindness and you're like, oh, 304 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 4: how do I repay them? I have to one up them, 305 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 4: I have to pay give them something back. And I 306 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 4: just think it speaks to how we've all kind of 307 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 4: become understandably because we're doing a million things in our 308 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 4: lives now, but like so insular and sort of wearing 309 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 4: our self sufficiency like a badge as opposed to just 310 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 4: trusting and giving in to sort of this reciprocity that 311 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 4: I don't think has been put into practice much. 312 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: I do you think? 313 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: It's like so interesting though. I was having a conversation 314 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: with one of my she's an actress as well, and 315 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: she's been very successful, and she's in our forties and 316 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: I'm forty two, and you know, we were talking about 317 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 2: how there is that you have to then go okay 318 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: because she's never had, you know, her own child, and 319 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: you know, they've been she's been talking about it with 320 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 2: her with a partner. But she's like, I'm She's like, 321 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 2: it's it's sad that like we have to we get 322 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: to that age where we have to go okay, I'm okay, 323 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: Like I have to make that decision for my for 324 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: our family and as a physical baby coming out of 325 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: la like my body. She's like, but I think about 326 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: how I love on my niece and my nephew, and 327 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: she's like, and I She's like, that's a love that 328 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: has kind of She's like that that motherly love it's 329 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: still there, you know what I mean. It's just like 330 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: she's like, I've had to reframe it. She's like, but 331 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: I do hate that the age caught up to where 332 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: I'm at now. She's like, I don't have any regrets. 333 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: It's just that's just the sadness of like where because again, 334 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: like I would love another one, but also forties is tough, 335 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 336 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 4: And it's like having a baby out of my body. 337 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 4: I'm over forty, Like I don't want to put my 338 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 4: body through it totally, Like I'm like love where my 339 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 4: body's out. Finally, I don't want to it's physically exhausting. Yeah, 340 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 4: it's a funny, it's it's a funny thing. And like, 341 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 4: you know, we all have our different relationship to that 342 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 4: whole notion of like the biological child and if there 343 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 4: are differences and what those differences are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 344 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 4: but we're getting we're getting so much out of being 345 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 4: in each other's lives, you know, in our friends' lives rather. 346 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that, and I love that when you 347 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 3: come to Tennessee and move here, then you can have 348 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 3: six kids to. 349 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: Be and we're going to add on Ben's kids too. 350 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: On or two. 351 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, guys, I'm like, I'm like, I've got the Mary 352 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 4: Poppins and me. 353 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? 354 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 4: I'm like going for like anti Zibby is the best 355 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 4: love it? 356 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: Zibby, What does Zibby think of Brady? I know what 357 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: your character thinks of Brady, but I want to know 358 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: what Zibby thinks of Brady, not Ben. 359 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: Brady, because like we could dish on Ben being no. 360 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: I mean we can do that for hours in the 361 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: best of ways. We love you, Ben, but like I 362 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: want to know what Zibby thinks of Brady. 363 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 4: I mean whoa Like, how are we framing this? Like 364 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 4: how would Zibby advise Brie? Or like what's my own? Yeah? 365 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: I mean like what if you were a friend Debrie, 366 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: Like what do you what do you think of Brady? 367 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 4: Man? 368 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: That's tough here to ask the tough questions. 369 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 4: Friend listen, Like like Brady is he's really trying hard? 370 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: You know? 371 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we know those guys that try hard, but 372 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: sometimes they just keep Like how when we are we 373 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: are holding a rope over a bridge and it's like, yeah, 374 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: they're going to try to climb up a little bit, 375 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: but they're not going to climb up all the way? 376 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: When do you let go of the rope? 377 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 4: This is what I'm saying, Like, like that's why I struggle. 378 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 4: It's not like a straightforward thing. And look like good 379 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 4: chemistry is good chemistry, Like that's hard to resist. I 380 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 4: get it, But like practically speaking, you know, how much 381 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 4: longer are you going to like deal with the cycle. 382 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: Of mister mister Big. 383 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 4: Yeah he is. 384 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: He is a mister Big. He's a mister b of sorts. 385 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, it's hard, Like I really want to 386 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 4: like him more for her, and I do in a 387 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 4: lot of ways. 388 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: But you know, you know how you have those girlfriends 389 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: where you're just like girl? 390 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: I always yeah, I know, but I always think, like 391 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: what would I say to my best friend in those moments? 392 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: You know, Well, you've said it, have said it? Have 393 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: you said it? We say the hard things. Yeah, we've 394 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: been through a lot together. 395 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 3: I want to ask you a question that Jana usually 396 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: gets to ask, but it's my favorite one I get 397 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: to beat her to it, and that is, how is 398 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 3: your character on the show most like you in real life? 399 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: Well that's such a good question. 400 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 3: It's not mine, it's borrow tanks. I learned this by 401 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: being best friend to an actress. I'm like, well, that's 402 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: such a fun thing because I didn't realize how much 403 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: you would probably relate to each character. So now I'm 404 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: fascinated by that those questions. 405 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 4: I think there's a really good like you know those 406 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 4: Ben diagrams, there's a good overlap. I feel like Bri 407 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 4: has helped me move myself in a direction that I've 408 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 4: really needed without understanding that before getting the role. And 409 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 4: maybe I bring a little something to her, like I'm 410 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 4: softer than she is. Our differences are I'm way softer 411 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 4: than b Bree is a lot more hard shelled and tough, 412 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 4: and I love that I could borrow more from that 413 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 4: side of her. But our similarities are like we have 414 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 4: a deep, deep, deep sense of like justice, you know, 415 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 4: when someone's been wronged. That's a really hard thing to 416 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 4: just sit with. I really struggle, like, uh, maybe it's 417 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 4: the libra in me. I've been told that, but like 418 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 4: it's hard, like the physical response, and I'm pretty stubborn 419 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 4: like she is, Like, but I wear it more quietly 420 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 4: than she does, Zibi. 421 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: I have to ask you this because I got a 422 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 3: text message and Jana knows this is coming. So I 423 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 3: got a text message from a girlfriend one day and 424 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: she said, you have a doppelganger. She is out in 425 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: the wild. There is someone that is I'm telling you 426 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: you need DNA testing. You and her are separated, definitely 427 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 3: the sisters. 428 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 4: Yeahs, where are I need to put glasses on right now? 429 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 4: Do you have? 430 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll take mine off and you tell me. So 431 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 3: it's wild because I'm not. I'm not very like people 432 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 3: will say, you know, like in college, I got a 433 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: little Britney spears those days of past, but I don't 434 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 3: normally go like, oh yeah, I could see it. I've 435 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 3: never seen the Britney thing. But when she showed me 436 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 3: a picture, I was like, well, this is like a 437 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 3: little eerie and she said it's mannerisms too on the show. 438 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: And so I'm wondering, do you think that we are sisters? 439 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're further back. I need a close above you. 440 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 4: But yeah, First of all, I wish I looked like 441 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 4: you you're stunning. 442 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: Oh oh, we'll say, but yes, I see it, you are. 443 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 4: I would like that's the thing. 444 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: I look at you and I'm like, she's stunning, and 445 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: the ones I feel the same way about you, like 446 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: you're just gorgeous and your energy is beautiful, and so 447 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, wish we were sisters and we are in 448 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: my comedy Tennessee. Is it you are? It's happening. You 449 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: have a change of addresses. 450 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: We're going to do in Tennessee. We're gonna play pickleball 451 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: because I'm putting one in my backyard. We're doing a 452 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 2: pickleball court in our backyard. Eventually you love it. I 453 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: love pickleball. I love tennis. 454 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: Okay, so you like the racket sports. 455 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 2: And I love ping pong. So like blending the two 456 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 2: together are is a love language to me. 457 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 3: It's a little like Gollilocks and the three competitive, like 458 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: it's the one that fits just right. 459 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, not too tiny, not too big. 460 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: I feel like I've said those exact words, including I'm 461 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 4: very competitive, I am up to I'm not I'm very competitive, 462 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 4: I'm not amazing at tennis. I'm really I don't want to. 463 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to have a ping pong table in 464 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: my garage. 465 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: So when you come, when you move here, when you 466 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 2: move here. 467 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: We will do a competition. 468 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: And I even I haven't played I played ping pong 469 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: with my husband, well he wasn't my husband then but 470 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: boyfriend at the time. 471 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: In Scotland. 472 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: You know those they have those awesome little cathedral bars 473 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 2: that are just there's a ping pong table in one 474 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: of them, and I kicked his ass and it was 475 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: good for you. 476 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I'm so proud of you. Yes, yes, it's 477 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 4: all like perfect. 478 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: It is a perfect blend. 479 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: And how great is James Lafferty like I had I'll 480 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 2: be honest, when I when I worked on One Tree 481 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: Hill for those couple of years he was I was 482 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: very intimidated of him, Like we didn't have a lot 483 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: of scenes together because my character rarely was in that world. 484 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 2: But he's just he's very stoic, and even when we 485 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: like I just saw him in Paris for the One 486 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 2: Tree Hill convention, I'm always like hi James, Like I 487 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,239 Speaker 2: don't know, I get like I get nervous around him 488 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: or something because he's just he's he's so quiet, but 489 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: he's so sweet, and then I I never know what 490 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: he's thinking, and then I'm just like, hi, I was 491 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 2: on the show. 492 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: I remember me. That's really weird. 493 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 4: And why You're like, Okay, I am moving to Tennessee 494 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 4: it's too much. 495 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: No, yes, come on, you're saying. 496 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 4: The exact feeling I had when we first met. He's right, sic, 497 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 4: And I was like, where do I stand with this bro? 498 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 4: Like does he like are we going to be okay? 499 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 4: Being like love interest? He is kind like to the 500 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 4: core and so non judgmental and shows up for the 501 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 4: work in this really impressive professional way. But yeah, he 502 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 4: doesn't give a lot away. He's not overly. You know, 503 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 4: I just want to you know, I'll mirror somebody like 504 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 4: if you're coming up a big love like, I'll meet 505 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 4: you there. And I was like, I don't know what 506 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 4: you want from me. I'm just gonna be polite and 507 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 4: then let you open up. 508 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had the best time. 509 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 4: And by the way, as a result, it meant that 510 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 4: all that work could show up really confidently, like on camera, 511 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 4: because that's where he would really like come alive. And 512 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 4: it just speaks to his professionalism honestly. 513 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, not one of those guys over I mean, 514 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: I was on the show for three years and I'm 515 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 2: still like, I like, I don't. 516 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: Know, James, it's Janna, you remember, Yeah, I'm. 517 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: Just like I but you know it's but he's so sweet, 518 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 2: you know, and his his wife and like he's so 519 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 2: respectful and like the whole thing, like he's a lovely dude. 520 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, he's it's very It's I just remember when 521 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 2: Alan came in to Paris. 522 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, here's my husband. 523 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: Like I'm like me and my husband talked to him 524 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: because and then I am chatting up a bunch. 525 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: Oh they were, Yeah, they chatted about football. I think. 526 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 4: I honestly, I like brought up my husband like the 527 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 4: like thirty times in the first ten minutes because I 528 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 4: was like, maybe it's just because he wants to be 529 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 4: really respectful and not like be one of those like 530 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 4: actors that makes it seem you know what I mean. 531 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 4: So it's just like just like you know, like I'm like, 532 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 4: I'm not a thirty actress. Like I wasn't sure what 533 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 4: it was. 534 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,719 Speaker 1: Anyway. I love that you're saying that. But yeah, no, 535 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we love James. 536 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 2: But when I saw that you two together, I'm like, 537 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: I am pumped for a pickup ball Christmas. It's going 538 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: to be on Lifetime December twentieth. What is one thing 539 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: because this is you know Ben and I always say 540 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: this about we're not reinventing the wheel. When it comes 541 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: to these Christmas movies, you know, it's like, okay, now 542 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 2: this one's with pickaballs, was ours was a lost ring. 543 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: So but what's the one thing that you go, Okay, 544 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 2: this might be this might stand out, or maybe it's 545 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 2: the acting between you two, or like, what is the 546 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: one thing that you're like this they can look forward 547 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: to this one little nugget. 548 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I think there's a lot of witty language 549 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 4: that kind of just rises a little bit above the 550 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 4: formula that we love, like why it's not broke? 551 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: It's great. 552 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 4: But I actually wrote the writer Blake Rutledge. I hope 553 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 4: I'm saying his name right, And when I first read it, 554 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 4: because I was like, dude, I read these things all 555 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,719 Speaker 4: the time. But and the genre is what it is, 556 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 4: but honestly, your writing kind of transcends it. Like I 557 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 4: was laughing out loud, and you know, maybe Lifetime has 558 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 4: had to like sand down some of those more funny edges, 559 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 4: but I think it has like a wit to it 560 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 4: that's really smart and kept us out of falling into 561 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 4: those like super cheesy traps. 562 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: You know, I absolutely like it. I think the cheesiest 563 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: thing about it is the. 564 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: Name where I were right, yeah, I mean, but I 565 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 2: mean again, I'm I'm pumped to watch it. I now 566 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 2: love you because you know, obviously I love the Hollingsworths. 567 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: So daylor moving here too, because why not add another 568 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 2: little mark on the you know, another little zillow here. 569 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: It's meant to be. 570 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 4: Well, I'm definitely going to come check it out and 571 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 4: visit Ben Andyila sold me hard on Tennessee. And they 572 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 4: love you so much because I saw them shortly after 573 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 4: we were in Toronto. 574 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: Together and they were just going on and on about 575 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: you guys. 576 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 2: So yeah, well maybe and then we'll hang out in Scotland. 577 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: Like you know, here we go. I feel we have 578 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: a lot more to discuss, ladies, So we do, Yeah, 579 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: we do. When you come here, it will be easy 580 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: to do. We'll just come over. Zibby are the best. 581 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you both 582 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: for having me.