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Speaker 1: Thank you, Welcome to Money Making Conversations. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Rushean McDonald. I recognize that we all have different definitions

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Speaker 1: above the bigger obstacles that life will present to you. Really,

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Speaker 1: and in the year pandemic, you have to understand that

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Speaker 1: You need relationships. You need people to believe in you,

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Speaker 1: and as you develop those relationships, they will go beyond.

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Speaker 1: My next guest is a as a survivor, is a

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Speaker 1: trooper as as as they say has a sultry voice?

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Speaker 1: Is what has a voice that I don't have? By

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Speaker 1: the way, my next guest is Will Downing, with a

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Speaker 1: career expands thirty or two years in the music business

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Speaker 1: and twenty three albums to his credit. The Prince of

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Speaker 1: Sophisticated Soul has a repertoire that consists of signature interpretations

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Speaker 1: of R and B classics like I Go Crazy, Wishing

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Speaker 1: Rachel Farrell. Nothing has ever felt like this. Will is

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Speaker 1: discussing his release of his latest music project, So Many

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Speaker 1: Good Die Young, a moving and powerful tribute song and video,

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Speaker 1: as well as current events such as being an artist

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Speaker 1: in the pandemic, coping with work stoppage, hosting this popular

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Speaker 1: weekly radio show, The Wine Down. Please welcome to money

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Speaker 1: making Conversation. I've seen it many times on stage in Houston,

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Speaker 1: Texas at the Arena Theater. My man Will Donnie, How

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Speaker 1: you doing pretty good, my friend? Pretty good? I mentioned

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Speaker 1: the Houston, Texas That's why I'm born and raised. Many

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Speaker 1: times I've seen you in concert at the Arena theater.

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Speaker 1: Tell everybody what the arena theater is and some of

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Speaker 1: the complications that it presents for a performer like you. Well, uh,

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Speaker 1: first and foremost good to see you. I always loved

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Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah. Yeah. But the Arena theater, for

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Speaker 1: those who don't know, it's a theater in the round.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the few that still exists in the

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Speaker 1: So it's a rotating stage teach about three thousand people. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you have to entertain because basically you have to

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Speaker 1: And I remember as I was coming up, I started

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Speaker 1: I said, no, no, Dad, it's just me? Is it?

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Speaker 1: Were you telling me all these people I come to

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Speaker 1: I said, Dad, I think it's sold up to come

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Speaker 1: But it was it was the moment that he kind

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I guess, you know, I guess you

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Speaker 1: So he didn't he didn't even remotely understand how that

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Speaker 1: you're saying something. So it was. It was an Hall

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Speaker 1: that we ask And your song and you know so

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