WEBVTT - Talking Lamborghini with John Temerian 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:07.320 Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:11.080 I'm Hannah Elliott and I'm Matt Miller. 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:12.680 This is Hot Pursuit. 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:19.000 Coming up on today's podcast, We've got John Tamrion on 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:23.440 with us live from Miami. He is the founder of 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:27.440 Curated Vintage Supercars. If you don't know now, you know, 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:30.760 but you probably already knew about John because if you've 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:36.480 been around Kontasha's Diablos, whatever, something from that era, it's 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:38.040 been I actually. 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:39.080 I actually didn't. 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:41.159 I didn't know until you told me that we were 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:44.320 going to get him on the show. I tend to 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:49.600 be closer to sixties muscle cars and pickup trucks, but 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:54.720 my first love was for these nineteen eighties, nineteen nineties, 0:00:54.760 --> 0:01:00.800 two thousand supercars, so it's been a great journey to 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.680 learn more about him. I also want to talk about, 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:09.800 just quickly, a new supercar that you've driven, the Ferrari. 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:13.640 I'm not even gonna attempt to pronounce twelve cylinder, however 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:14.800 they say it in Italian. 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:16.400 I feel like it's a test. 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:20.360 It's polarizing in its design. I like it because it's 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:23.080 clearly a callback to the date three Sex five Daytona, 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:27.200 which is one of my favorite Ferraris. But I can 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.600 see why people think it's a little bit too tech. 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.120 Note I can't see. I can't see why anyone wouldn't 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.920 instantly fall in love. I actually cannot relate to that 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:38.720 at all. But go ahead, go ahead. 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:44.480 Well, now they've added an option that will take it 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:46.920 over the top if you thought it was too maybe 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:50.000 too high tech to begin with. And that is a 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:54.720 manual transmission. Oh wait, that sounds like a great idea. 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:59.040 That sounds like a throwback and nod to the Ferraris 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:00.680 of old. The reason that we fell in love with 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:02.160 this brand. This is the first place. 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:07.040 Again they've always wanted sure exactly six speed with the 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.280 gated With the gated six. 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.760 Speed, it's a two hundred thousand dollars option, by the way, 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:14.320 so on top of the price of the car, it's 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:15.720 next to two hundred thousand. 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:18.239 And it comes with the third pedals. They should also say, 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.239 sorry not to Yes, there is a third pedals, not 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:22.200 just the shift right. 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.400 You have to depress the clutch in order to change. 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:27.720 Yes, And in this day and age, I don't think 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.720 you can assume that. 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:30.679 That's the interesting thing. 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.919 They've put it on it's really a software solution on 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:38.360 a dual clutch transmission, So it's an essentially an automatic 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:42.079 gearbox or the kind that you can shift with paddles normally, 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.040 but they've put a software solution on top of it 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:53.240 that allows a clutch pedal with electronic sensors to you know, 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:57.160 lift and close the clutch, and that allows a stick 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:01.560 shift with electronic sensors to tell the car which gear 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.880 to go into, although I'm not one hundred percent clear 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:05.520 that it will always go into the gear that you 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:09.160 wanted to because it's a DCT, so it can't go 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:13.480 from fourth to second, it has to go through third right. 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:17.080 Right now, My understanding is, first of all, like you say, 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.359 this is not a mechanical thing at all, so you're 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:24.800 not actually you're not actually doing anything mechanical. But it 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.919 is still possible to stall the car. It is still 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:34.240 possible when engaging this six speed transmission. You can't still 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:39.920 stall it, but it also will prevent you from blowing 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.240 the engine. Basically interesting. 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.960 I knee jerk reaction initially was like, Oh, this is stupid, 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.280 so much tech. Why I go to all that trouble 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.600 when they could have built such a beautiful mechanical thing. 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:57.000 But the truth is we all are already driving by wire, right. 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:02.440 You're accelerator on most new cars also not mechanically connected 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:03.040 to the motor. 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:05.360 The steering isn't, you know on. 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:09.840 A portion nine to eleven uh, mechanically connected to the wheels. 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.960 So you know, why not clutch by wire? 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.240 That makes sense to me, And I also get why 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:19.880 you would want to save some rich guy who probably 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:23.719 hasn't driven a stick shift in a while from blowing 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:25.159 his million dollar motor. 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:27.960 There clearly are. 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:31.520 Benefits to what they've done, and it makes sense in 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.239 you know, the progression of technology. 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:39.039 But something about it just it's not authentic, right. 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:42.360 It's like, oh, why make real leather when we can 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:43.840 do a plastic. 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:45.040 It is, yes, like leather. 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:50.800 No, it's yes, it's not a mechanical transmission. It's something different. 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.520 We should say. I feel like we should at least 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.640 give a nod to Koenigsegg, who has already been doing 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:01.320 It's not the same technology, but it's the same idea, 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:08.480 which is the combined automatic and optional manual kone exeg. 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:13.400 We got to give credit to Christian because he has 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:17.599 done this and people seem to like it. Right in 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:18.360 the coney. 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.520 Or blame him right, Well, I mean the Coon exeg 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:22.680 is a different kind of thing than a Ferrari, right. 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:28.120 That's a super high tech, turbo charged you know, on 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:31.159 the edge of and I guess that's what Ferrari wants 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.200 to be as well, on the avant garde edge of 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:35.400 technology and performance. 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:40.440 But for me, Ferraris are the two point fifty, you know, 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:44.359 or the Daytona or the threeh eight. So for me, 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.800 I would want an analog experience. But I guess if 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.440 they're going to be winning F one races again and 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.000 they're going to be on the forefront of technology, they 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:54.039 want to stay. 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.160 Moving forward rather than going back. 0:05:57.600 --> 0:06:02.359 Do you feel that Ferrari coming out with this manual 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.840 and we'll give give them, we'll give them credit, we'll 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.480 give them the benefit of the doubt, will actually say 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:12.800 to me, this feels like Ferrari saying, we understand this 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:16.480 is what our customers want and we're doing our best 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.919 to give it to you. It's not it's not the 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.240 old thing, but this is a new thing. But maybe 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.680 you'll like I'll take Ferrari with a grain of salt 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:29.160 and give the for them that does this make up 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:34.080 for the Luce, Like does a manual on the one 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:37.600 side make up for Is this the token gift that 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.000 makes up for the mistake. 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.880 Doesn't make up for the the Apple Car, I think, 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:47.520 And and to me that the Luce, it makes me 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:50.080 more skeptical of everything else, like I already was a 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.480 little bit concerned when you know, Chris Harris pointed out 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.359 they have a supercomputer on every corner of the what 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:58.000 do they call their suv the. 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.880 Puro saying persong whatever. 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:05.240 Essentially it's like a bunch of giant like thousands of 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.640 computers in that right, I mean, how many microchips do 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:13.720 they need? Then they put out the Apple Car, which 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:16.680 I mean, I don't know that I want to be 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.760 seen driving around in that, although I think the interior 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:22.680 is beautiful and I'm sure it's an amazing car to 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:23.440 drive around in. 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:26.800 And now they do this, which. 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.679 I want to I want to give them the benefit 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:33.560 of the doubt because when I did interview, when I 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.480 have interviewed the CEO, he's been on this podcast, he 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:42.360 does he is passionate about cars and motorsport, and he 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.360 does want to serve his clients, you know, and he 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.360 has a clear mission to bring Ferrari forward. So I 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:53.840 understand all that, but then why mimic this old manual transmission. 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.280 I feel like either maybe on the one hand, either 0:07:56.360 --> 0:08:00.080 do it like bring us a mechanical manual transmission, or 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.920 don't or move forward with your paddles right. On the 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.720 other hand, I think it's pretty cool to offer this option. 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.720 It's a little ridiculous that it costs two hundred thousand extra, 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:14.320 but to offer this option to people so they can 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:16.600 have the experience, and it's cool that they've gone to 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.680 all this trouble. Apparently they make the clutch it actually 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.560 doesn't feel you feel the engagement. You know, the same 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.440 is true with a stick, So they make it feel 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:30.200 like operating a six speed transmission. And at the same 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:34.720 time you can switch back. You know, if you're a 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.720 supercar manual transmission fan and you're driving it that way, 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.400 but your husband only knows how to drive an autobox, 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.960 when he gets in the driver's seat, you know can yeah, 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.920 he can drive a normal DCT. It's kind of cool 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:49.440 that they offer you by the worlds. 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:54.560 I actually think maybe the bigger takeaway for me is 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:59.480 that it is fascinating people are buying it. And we 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:05.000 have to assume they are indeed buying this. Probably we 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.839 should we meaning me, should do a little bit more 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:11.080 stronger asking Yeah, I mean it's a bit early. But 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:17.000 the assumption is the implication is this is something Ferrari 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:21.280 has identified in the market that it's buyers, its customers 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:26.000 will buy. That is very interesting that in theory there 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:29.920 are enough people who will pay that much more to 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:33.600 have this thing in their car, which actually makes it 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:37.480 more complicated to drive. That is very interesting. And what 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.800 does that say about car culture right now? I think 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:43.840 what it says is people are more desperate than ever 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:45.720 to feel something when they drive. 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.120 You know, it's I mean, just like a watch, right, 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:50.599 you want complications. 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.920 So people who are spending six hundred seven hundred, eight 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.880 hundred thousand dollars on a car, they want the complications. 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:01.520 And it is a uh. 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.400 An oddity, a curiosity. Certainly, if you have a collection, 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:06.160 you're like, oh, I want that to have. I want 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.920 the manuale or however they pronounce it, and I'll spend 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.160 the extra two hundred thousand because money means nothing to me. 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.600 On the other hand, if you were a watch collector 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:20.120 and someone said to you, listen I've got a court's watch, 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:24.120 so it has the precision and the reliability that you 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:27.439 expect from a court's movement, but I make it act like. 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.640 And automatic is a second on purpose. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.640 Every year there's a course watch, but you have to 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:37.640 wind it up. 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:36.480 Stop working. 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:38.640 It's a good one. 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:43.720 Actually, I mean, why what have we come to? 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:48.720 I know, well again, I think it's ridiculous. It's people 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:53.480 are desperate to feel anything. That's what we've come to 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:58.920 because so muchless people good. 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.040 Just I don't you know. 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:05.440 I think I understand wanting to serve the customer and 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:07.520 also the business case. And at the end of the day, 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.400 as Kevin Tynan says, the CEO wants to make money. 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:14.120 Like, yes, they're not the Red CROSSBS doesn't matter, it's 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:15.600 not the car Red Cross. 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:20.880 They're not making a brown station wagon with a manual transmission. 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:24.760 And but why wouldn't they Why wouldn't Ferrari say, look, 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.959 instead of making fourteen hundred and ninety nine it'll be 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.679 limited to fourteen hundred and ninety nine examples of the 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.480 of the twelve cylinder with this option, why don't we 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:38.840 just make fifteen hundred analog cars. 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:40.080 We go all the way. 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:43.120 Back like, uh, it's way more expensive, you know. 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.400 Yeah, but you can charge whatever you want. 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:50.360 We're in a world where everyone's a billionaire, right, so 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.880 they can ask I mean, if they can already ask 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:58.679 two hundred thousand extra for a fake manual option, I 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:02.280 think they can charge whatever they want for a Ferrari 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.880 analoga or however you say that in Italian. 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:09.000 Right, we're gonna call it that the analoga. 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.720 You can say, Hey, this has a hydraulic is his steering, 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:21.920 It's got an actual wire connecting your gas pedal to 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:25.319 the throttle bodies. We can make it with the carburetors, 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:28.920 you know, like why not go all the way back? 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.079 Yeah, it's a fair point. It's a fair point. Let's 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:32.600 ask him. 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:37.720 Let's ask him even even for six like make they 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.440 should They should have put that out at the same 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.440 time as the luch Like here, we know this is 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:46.040 and horrendously ugly and you'll only buy it to get 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:47.280 the million dollar supercar. 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.280 At the same time, here's the million dollar supercar. 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:53.320 Give us the yin and the yang. We should table 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.000 that for now because I do want to talk to 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:59.480 John Tamaran about his thoughts on why these cars, and 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:04.120 I have a feeling he's going to strongly agree with 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:07.480 our take about why these these types of cars are 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:16.240 so compelling. So, John, we're so happy to have you. 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:20.560 John Tamaran from We are Curated in Miami, Florida, the one, 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:26.720 the only, and I think probably our listeners will know 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.240 we are Curated and probably be familiar with your work. 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.360 But I want to hear more about how you got 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.800 into this business because I know that you've been in 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.320 Miami for a long time. You've been in the car 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.959 world for a long time. You were you had actually 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:47.200 a great rental car business, I believe before this, you know, 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:51.000 and also your grandfather has been in cars, so you 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:54.960 really have quite a long history. Can you just tell 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:58.000 us how you arrived at like what looks to all 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.600 of us like the most fun job ever. 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:01.360 Thank you? 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.160 What an introduction, So thank you and thank you for 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:08.680 the kind words. Yeah, I mean really, you know, and 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.560 I say this all the time. Curated is an extension 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.560 of my DNA. It's a labor of love. 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:15.120 You know. 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:19.960 My grandfather immigrated to the US from from France in 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.800 nineteen fifty seven and he started, you know, working at 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:28.080 a little gas station in Springfield, Massachusetts, and that job 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.880 ended up. He saved, he saved a ton of money 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:34.440 and ended up buying this little warehouse and turned it 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:38.080 into a place called Medical Center Garage. And in the 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:43.600 nineteen sixties he was buying and servicing and fixing and 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.840 repairing a lot of the cars in that region, and 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.840 just so happened. You know, the Ferrari distributor, Luigi Connetti 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:54.720 was not far away. So a lot of the great 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:56.800 old pictures show everything from a. 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.080 Two fifty gto to a two fifty. 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:03.360 Short wheelbase and Jaguar E types and rolls, Royces and 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.720 then you know, like like many I would say, you know, 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:11.000 immigrant parents, Uh, you know, my grandfather wanted my dad 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:12.400 to be a doctor. 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:15.440 A stockbroker, something respectable, get out of car. 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:17.440 Exactly. 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:21.560 And my father, at thirteen or fourteen, rebuilt an E 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:25.960 type engine and my grandfather was so impressed, but he 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.520 still was pushing him into another direction. And then you 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:32.240 know they probably had some very tough words, and they 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:35.440 fought for many years. But at eighteen years old, my 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:40.960 dad officially took over his service facility. And that's really 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.320 where my dad's love of Lamborghini began. 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.480 Imagine, his first car was a Mura. It was an 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.360 old act that he fixed up. 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:53.920 He drove it, he drove it to high school and 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:54.720 and was. 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.480 He still in Massachusetts or was that Miami at that point? 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:01.920 Okay, now Springfield, Springfield, Massachusetts, and became you know, my 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.800 father became obsessed with the Lamborghini brand from an early 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:08.920 age and was buying and selling Miuras, fixing them up, 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.080 and you know, and really that's sort of where I 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:16.240 would say my story began in a way, because in 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.640 nineteen seventy two, at the New York Auto Show, my 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:22.880 dad took all of his savings, everything he had, everything, 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:27.560 he worked for numerous cars, and traded everything for a 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:29.920 mir SV that was sitting on the New York Auto 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:30.440 Show stand. 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:35.960 And yeah, and he still has that car today. Amazing. 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:37.120 He put it away. 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:40.920 And I grew up fast forward in the nineteen eighties, 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:44.960 my dad had an incredible mechanic shop the same name, 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.240 Medical Center Garage in Palm Beach, Florida. 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.520 So I grew up working weekends. 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.240 I grew up working summers sweeping the floor, cleaning cars. 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.760 And then eventually my dad taught me, you know, how 0:16:56.800 --> 0:17:00.520 to be a technician myself. So I had this really 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:04.440 incredible blessing of You know, my dad's a very tough guy. 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:07.520 I love him to death, but he's very OCD and 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.320 he's a detailed guy. So imagine, you know, while other 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:13.679 kids were playing soccer or baseball, my dad was like 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:17.760 showing me the details that you know, how i'm your 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.920 sv is original, or how a kuntash you know, these 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:22.800 are the bolts that are correct, or this is the 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:26.119 correct zinc coding, and I, you know, it's it's funny 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.679 because I didn't realize until much later on my life 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:32.439 how much knowledge I had learned from let's call it 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:33.920 eight years old to eighteen. 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:34.520 Wow. 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:38.480 And you know, at eighteen I moved out. I wanted 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:39.800 nothing to do with cars. 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:43.879 I was going to say, all of this education at 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:44.680 that point. 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:46.359 I hated it. I hated it. 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.720 And there's there's a there's a there's a funny there's 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.679 a funny twist. Because I wanted to go into you know, 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:54.840 the real estate world, marketing world. 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.240 I went off. I was promoting nightclubs. 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.760 And what was funny was that everyone I ran into 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:04.159 and the only way I was able to relate to 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:08.320 people was this weird knowledge of cars, and people were very, 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:13.400 very impressed and what really the way my career then 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:17.480 took off was I walked into Barkley's International real Estate 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:22.080 for a job and they mentioned to me, you know, 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.760 we weren't hiring, but you know, if you want to 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:26.639 do marketing, you can learn from us. 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:28.840 And I was like, great, that's what I want to do. 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:32.760 And in the first meeting I was there, Robert Weiner, 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:35.760 the founder of Barclay's Realty, which at the time was 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:39.040 probably the largest real estate company upon Beach, told me, Hey, 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.400 what's a great way give me an idea of how 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:45.359 to pre qualify people to go see a thirty to 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:49.600 fifty million dollar home. And I literally said, you know, here, 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:53.399 I am eighteen years old. I'm like, oh, supercar owners, Like, 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:57.000 if you just got together supercar owners like you, could, 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.159 you know, bring them to a house, you organize a 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:02.840 car event and toada and he was like, well, who 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.120 do you know? And what's funny is I was I 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.080 had this incredible memory. I'm not the smartest guy in 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:10.320 the world. I'm not the most talented guy, but I 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:13.560 have a very good memory for real weird details. 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.919 Socially very smart too, Yes and. 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:21.400 And thank you, and he go I go, oh, yeah, 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:23.399 I know Mark Musa and Ralph Mueller. 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:24.480 They live in Palm Beach. 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.679 Mark has an F fifty, Ralph has an F forty 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:30.680 and F fifty, and he just goes you know them, 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.840 I go, yeah, very well, my dad works on their cars. 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.800 So he ended up, you know, ended up giving me 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:40.920 a house to use and I hosted a crazy car 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:43.880 event and it ended up becoming you know, it put 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:46.680 me on the map at eighteen in Palm Beach, and 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:50.159 then and then for years I hosted car events. I 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.439 had a rental car company, but I kept falling into 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:56.560 sort of failure. I honestly, I really struggled as a 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:59.159 young guy. You know, I might have had you know, 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:03.080 public succes, but I didn't have, you know, any real 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:07.240 financial success. And I wasn't really happy. And there's a 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:10.400 you know, there's an interesting word. And when you think 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:14.320 about it, the word nostalgia, it's really hard to describe, 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:16.359 you know, it's really hard to describe. 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:16.920 The feeling you get. 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:20.040 And I don't know if it's a feeling of warmth, 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:24.840 you know, love, whatever it is. But every time I 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:30.080 encountered a kuntash An F forty or Diablo, there was 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:32.639 this special feeling. I'd get goosebumps on my arm and 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:35.760 I would just felt like I was home again. And 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:38.480 it was probably because some of or most of my 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:41.920 memories as a kid were in the passenger seat of 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:45.159 these cars or working on these cars. And you know, 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.440 it was at that moment where I realized, Okay, there's 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:52.439 something special here. No one really appreciated a generation of 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:57.200 cars twelve years ago, thirteen years ago, and it ran 0:20:57.240 --> 0:21:01.600 about like, man, I wish someone would, would, you know, 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:04.200 really show how these cars are arc and I wish 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:06.840 someone would really bring these. 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:07.960 Cars to another level. 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:12.920 And at the time, I mean listen, Lamborghini's were considered ostentatious, 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:18.159 old playboy cars. They were considered you sucky, tacky, you know, 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:22.280 in so many ways. And I was very fortunate. I 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:26.240 I my rental car company was really struggling, and I 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:31.320 met an incredible mentor, Alan Lozowski of Las Parking, who 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:34.719 came in and just started mentoring me business acumen and 0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:37.439 you know, doing the right thing and taking care of 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:42.320 people and and and at the time, my GM of 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:44.919 the rental car business, Jeordie Riquart, who's now my business 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:48.400 partner and uh A co founder of curated. We got 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:50.440 together and he's like, hey, listen, I'm gonna go out 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:52.840 to friends and family and raise money and if you 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:55.720 believe in this, you know, we'll buy one car at 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:59.120 a time. And we started with you know, one black 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:02.600 Countash and sold that and then did another car in 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:03.280 another car. 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:06.560 And it's been this insane dream. 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:08.639 Because I would tell you, like, you know, if you 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:12.240 told me twelve years ago that I'd be standing in 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:14.840 a showroom of you know, forty to fifty you know, 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:17.520 super cars, and you know, to date, I think we've 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:21.800 sold nine hundred and twenty seven cars and they're you know, 0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:23.800