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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News.

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Speaker 2: I'm Hannah Elliott and I'm Matt Miller.

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Speaker 3: This is Hot Pursuit.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on today's podcast, We've got John Tamrion on

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Speaker 2: with us live from Miami. He is the founder of

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Speaker 2: Curated Vintage Supercars. If you don't know now, you know,

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Speaker 2: but you probably already knew about John because if you've

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Speaker 2: been around Kontasha's Diablos, whatever, something from that era, it's

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Speaker 2: been I actually.

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Speaker 3: I actually didn't.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know until you told me that we were

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Speaker 4: going to get him on the show. I tend to

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Speaker 4: be closer to sixties muscle cars and pickup trucks, but

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Speaker 4: my first love was for these nineteen eighties, nineteen nineties,

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Speaker 4: two thousand supercars, so it's been a great journey to

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Speaker 4: learn more about him. I also want to talk about,

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Speaker 4: just quickly, a new supercar that you've driven, the Ferrari.

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Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna attempt to pronounce twelve cylinder, however

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Speaker 4: they say it in Italian.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's a test.

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Speaker 4: It's polarizing in its design. I like it because it's

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Speaker 4: clearly a callback to the date three Sex five Daytona,

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Speaker 4: which is one of my favorite Ferraris. But I can

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Speaker 4: see why people think it's a little bit too tech.

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Speaker 2: Note I can't see. I can't see why anyone wouldn't

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Speaker 2: instantly fall in love. I actually cannot relate to that

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Speaker 2: at all. But go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Well, now they've added an option that will take it

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Speaker 4: over the top if you thought it was too maybe

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Speaker 4: too high tech to begin with. And that is a

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Speaker 4: manual transmission. Oh wait, that sounds like a great idea.

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Speaker 4: That sounds like a throwback and nod to the Ferraris

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Speaker 4: of old. The reason that we fell in love with

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Speaker 4: this brand. This is the first place.

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Speaker 2: Again they've always wanted sure exactly six speed with the

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Speaker 2: gated With the gated six.

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Speaker 4: Speed, it's a two hundred thousand dollars option, by the way,

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Speaker 4: so on top of the price of the car, it's

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Speaker 4: next to two hundred thousand.

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Speaker 2: And it comes with the third pedals. They should also say,

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Speaker 2: sorry not to Yes, there is a third pedals, not

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Speaker 2: just the shift right.

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Speaker 4: You have to depress the clutch in order to change.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And in this day and age, I don't think

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Speaker 2: you can assume that.

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Speaker 3: That's the interesting thing.

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Speaker 4: They've put it on it's really a software solution on

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Speaker 4: a dual clutch transmission, So it's an essentially an automatic

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Speaker 4: gearbox or the kind that you can shift with paddles normally,

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Speaker 4: but they've put a software solution on top of it

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Speaker 4: that allows a clutch pedal with electronic sensors to you know,

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Speaker 4: lift and close the clutch, and that allows a stick

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Speaker 4: shift with electronic sensors to tell the car which gear

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Speaker 4: to go into, although I'm not one hundred percent clear

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Speaker 4: that it will always go into the gear that you

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Speaker 4: wanted to because it's a DCT, so it can't go

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Speaker 4: from fourth to second, it has to go through third right.

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Speaker 2: Right now, My understanding is, first of all, like you say,

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Speaker 2: this is not a mechanical thing at all, so you're

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Speaker 2: not actually you're not actually doing anything mechanical. But it

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Speaker 2: is still possible to stall the car. It is still

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Speaker 2: possible when engaging this six speed transmission. You can't still

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Speaker 2: stall it, but it also will prevent you from blowing

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Speaker 2: the engine. Basically interesting.

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Speaker 4: I knee jerk reaction initially was like, Oh, this is stupid,

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Speaker 4: so much tech. Why I go to all that trouble

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Speaker 4: when they could have built such a beautiful mechanical thing.

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Speaker 3: But the truth is we all are already driving by wire, right.

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Speaker 4: You're accelerator on most new cars also not mechanically connected

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Speaker 3: The steering isn't, you know on.

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Speaker 4: A portion nine to eleven uh, mechanically connected to the wheels.

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Speaker 3: So you know, why not clutch by wire?

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Speaker 4: That makes sense to me, And I also get why

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Speaker 4: you would want to save some rich guy who probably

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Speaker 4: hasn't driven a stick shift in a while from blowing

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Speaker 4: his million dollar motor.

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Speaker 3: There clearly are.

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Speaker 4: Benefits to what they've done, and it makes sense in

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Speaker 4: you know, the progression of technology.

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Speaker 3: But something about it just it's not authentic, right.

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Speaker 4: It's like, oh, why make real leather when we can

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Speaker 4: do a plastic.

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Speaker 3: It is, yes, like leather.

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Speaker 2: No, it's yes, it's not a mechanical transmission. It's something different.

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Speaker 2: We should say. I feel like we should at least

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Speaker 2: give a nod to Koenigsegg, who has already been doing

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Speaker 2: It's not the same technology, but it's the same idea,

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Speaker 2: which is the combined automatic and optional manual kone exeg.

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Speaker 2: We got to give credit to Christian because he has

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Speaker 2: done this and people seem to like it. Right in

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Speaker 2: the coney.

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Speaker 4: Or blame him right, Well, I mean the Coon exeg

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Speaker 4: is a different kind of thing than a Ferrari, right.

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Speaker 5: That's a super high tech, turbo charged you know, on

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Speaker 5: the edge of and I guess that's what Ferrari wants

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Speaker 5: to be as well, on the avant garde edge of

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Speaker 4: But for me, Ferraris are the two point fifty, you know,

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Speaker 4: or the Daytona or the threeh eight. So for me,

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Speaker 4: I would want an analog experience. But I guess if

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Speaker 4: they're going to be winning F one races again and

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Speaker 4: they're going to be on the forefront of technology, they

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Speaker 4: want to stay.

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Speaker 3: Moving forward rather than going back.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel that Ferrari coming out with this manual

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Speaker 2: and we'll give give them, we'll give them credit, we'll

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Speaker 2: give them the benefit of the doubt, will actually say

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Speaker 2: to me, this feels like Ferrari saying, we understand this

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Speaker 2: is what our customers want and we're doing our best

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Speaker 2: to give it to you. It's not it's not the

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Speaker 2: old thing, but this is a new thing. But maybe

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Speaker 2: you'll like I'll take Ferrari with a grain of salt

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Speaker 2: and give the for them that does this make up

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Speaker 2: for the Luce, Like does a manual on the one

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Speaker 2: side make up for Is this the token gift that

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Speaker 2: makes up for the mistake.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't make up for the the Apple Car, I think,

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Speaker 4: And and to me that the Luce, it makes me

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Speaker 4: more skeptical of everything else, like I already was a

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Speaker 4: little bit concerned when you know, Chris Harris pointed out

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Speaker 4: they have a supercomputer on every corner of the what

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Speaker 4: do they call their suv the.

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Speaker 3: Puro saying persong whatever.

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Speaker 4: Essentially it's like a bunch of giant like thousands of

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Speaker 4: computers in that right, I mean, how many microchips do

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Speaker 4: they need? Then they put out the Apple Car, which

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know that I want to be

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Speaker 4: is beautiful and I'm sure it's an amazing car to

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Speaker 3: And now they do this, which.

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Speaker 4: I want to I want to give them the benefit

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Speaker 4: of the doubt because when I did interview, when I

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Speaker 4: have interviewed the CEO, he's been on this podcast, he

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Speaker 4: does he is passionate about cars and motorsport, and he

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Speaker 4: does want to serve his clients, you know, and he

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Speaker 4: has a clear mission to bring Ferrari forward. So I

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Speaker 4: understand all that, but then why mimic this old manual transmission.

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Speaker 4: I feel like either maybe on the one hand, either

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Speaker 4: do it like bring us a mechanical manual transmission, or

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Speaker 4: don't or move forward with your paddles right. On the

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Speaker 4: other hand, I think it's pretty cool to offer this option.

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Speaker 4: It's a little ridiculous that it costs two hundred thousand extra,

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Speaker 4: but to offer this option to people so they can

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Speaker 4: have the experience, and it's cool that they've gone to

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Speaker 4: all this trouble. Apparently they make the clutch it actually

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Speaker 4: doesn't feel you feel the engagement. You know, the same

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Speaker 4: is true with a stick, So they make it feel

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Speaker 4: like operating a six speed transmission. And at the same

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Speaker 4: time you can switch back. You know, if you're a

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Speaker 4: supercar manual transmission fan and you're driving it that way,

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Speaker 4: but your husband only knows how to drive an autobox,

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Speaker 4: when he gets in the driver's seat, you know can yeah,

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Speaker 4: he can drive a normal DCT. It's kind of cool

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Speaker 4: that they offer you by the worlds.

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Speaker 2: I actually think maybe the bigger takeaway for me is

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Speaker 2: that it is fascinating people are buying it. And we

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Speaker 2: have to assume they are indeed buying this. Probably we

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Speaker 2: should we meaning me, should do a little bit more

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Speaker 2: stronger asking Yeah, I mean it's a bit early. But

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Speaker 2: the assumption is the implication is this is something Ferrari

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Speaker 2: has identified in the market that it's buyers, its customers

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Speaker 2: will buy. That is very interesting that in theory there

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Speaker 2: are enough people who will pay that much more to

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Speaker 2: have this thing in their car, which actually makes it

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Speaker 2: more complicated to drive. That is very interesting. And what

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Speaker 2: does that say about car culture right now? I think

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Speaker 2: what it says is people are more desperate than ever

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Speaker 2: to feel something when they drive.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's I mean, just like a watch, right,

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Speaker 3: you want complications.

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Speaker 4: So people who are spending six hundred seven hundred, eight

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Speaker 3: And it is a uh.

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Speaker 4: An oddity, a curiosity. Certainly, if you have a collection,

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Speaker 4: you're like, oh, I want that to have. I want

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Speaker 4: the manuale or however they pronounce it, and I'll spend

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Speaker 4: the extra two hundred thousand because money means nothing to me.

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Speaker 4: On the other hand, if you were a watch collector

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Speaker 4: so it has the precision and the reliability that you

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Speaker 4: expect from a court's movement, but I make it act like.

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Speaker 2: And automatic is a second on purpose.

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Speaker 4: Every year there's a course watch, but you have to

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Speaker 3: Stop working.

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Speaker 2: It's a good one.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I mean, why what have we come to?

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Speaker 2: I know, well again, I think it's ridiculous. It's people

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Speaker 2: are desperate to feel anything. That's what we've come to

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Speaker 2: because so muchless people good.

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Speaker 3: Just I don't you know.

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Speaker 4: I think I understand wanting to serve the customer and

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Speaker 4: also the business case. And at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: as Kevin Tynan says, the CEO wants to make money.

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Speaker 2: Like, yes, they're not the Red CROSSBS doesn't matter, it's

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Speaker 2: not the car Red Cross.

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Speaker 4: They're not making a brown station wagon with a manual transmission.

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Speaker 4: And but why wouldn't they Why wouldn't Ferrari say, look,

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Speaker 4: instead of making fourteen hundred and ninety nine it'll be

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Speaker 4: limited to fourteen hundred and ninety nine examples of the

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Speaker 4: of the twelve cylinder with this option, why don't we

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Speaker 4: just make fifteen hundred analog cars.

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Speaker 3: We go all the way.

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Speaker 2: Back like, uh, it's way more expensive, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can charge whatever you want.

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Speaker 4: We're in a world where everyone's a billionaire, right, so

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Speaker 4: they can ask I mean, if they can already ask

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Speaker 4: two hundred thousand extra for a fake manual option, I

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Speaker 4: think they can charge whatever they want for a Ferrari

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Speaker 4: analoga or however you say that in Italian.

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Speaker 2: Right, we're gonna call it that the analoga.

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Speaker 4: You can say, Hey, this has a hydraulic is his steering,

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Speaker 4: It's got an actual wire connecting your gas pedal to

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Speaker 4: the throttle bodies. We can make it with the carburetors,

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Speaker 4: you know, like why not go all the way back?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fair point. It's a fair point. Let's

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Speaker 2: ask him.

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Speaker 4: Let's ask him even even for six like make they

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Speaker 6: This is not art and it's listen, it's I've it's

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Speaker 2: Well, you really saw the future. You were you you

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Speaker 2: Had the right time completely. Yes, and the other thing too, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think, you know what I think, you know, I

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Speaker 6: you how many of our clients first saw Kuntash, first

441
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 6: saw Ferrari, they had the poster, and that's why they

442
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 6: ended up becoming who they are today, whether it's starting

443
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Speaker 6: a business, whether it's you know, going becoming a doctor,

444
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 6: whether you know, there was this driving force from the

445
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 6: automotive world, and now that they've you know, acquired wealth, they've.

446
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Speaker 1: Worked very hard. Man. That experience is really magical.

447
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 6: And I can't tell you how many times I've delivered

448
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Speaker 6: a where someone broke out in tears and they're like,

449
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 6: this is this is the you know, summary of forty

450
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Speaker 6: years of work or twenty years of heart, you know,

451
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 6: whatever it may be. And I think, I think if

452
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 6: we don't, we have such a big responsibility to deliver

453
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 6: on that We're not just delivering a car. It's way

454
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Speaker 6: more than that. And and I listen, I take up.

455
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 6: I take it as a big responsibility.

456
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Speaker 1: Honestly I do.

457
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Speaker 6: It sounds a little crazy, but you know, like woo wooh,

458
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 6: but we really do and and listen, I I you know,

459
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 6: we have a dream counter, and we make sure the

460
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 6: whole team is connected to that and they understand the

461
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Speaker 6: importance of like, you know, every person coming in, even

462
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Speaker 6: if it's a kid that's coming in is first time

463
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Speaker 6: seeing a car. Let's make sure they feel special because

464
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Speaker 6: this is way more than just a car.

465
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Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, I say for those of us in

466
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Speaker 4: my age group, right like I remember, uh when my

467
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 4: when we got the road and track that had the

468
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Speaker 4: Diablo on the cover, or I remember when we had

469
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Speaker 4: when we were all excited about the F forty and

470
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 4: somebody was like, dude, I heard there's an F fifty

471
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Speaker 4: coming exactly.

472
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Speaker 3: That's that's when we were.

473
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Speaker 4: That's when I was like coming of age. I remember

474
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Speaker 4: like caring about the Callaway Corvette, like there.

475
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: Are we're not cars, you know.

476
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Speaker 4: Yes, And and right now is the time that I

477
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 4: think people of my age who've been working, you know,

478
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Speaker 4: hard and saving money for a long time can finally

479
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 4: afford you know, these things. So I guess there'll be

480
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Speaker 4: another generation in ten years that likes something ten years

481
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 4: old old or ten years newer.

482
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Speaker 6: I guess, right, yes, yes, And I think I call

483
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 6: that the video game generation. I don't even think the

484
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 6: world realizes yet the impact that video games have had

485
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 6: on a younger generation. You know, when I was a kid,

486
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 6: no no one knew what these cars were. And you know,

487
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 6: today we have hundreds of kids that come into our

488
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Speaker 6: showroom and they're like, they're like telling me, oh, there's

489
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 6: only eighty Diablo GT's in the world, because that's what

490
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,239
Speaker 6: it's said on Grand Turismo. You know, like wow, like

491
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 6: it's it's wild. And listen, there was eighty million users

492
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 6: of Grand Turismo. And you know, I think the connection

493
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 6: to cars, the passion in cars, is so important today.

494
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 6: You know, you have these events and I listen, I

495
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 6: know everyone complains about the spotters during Monterey Car Week

496
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 6: and that in the thousands of kids that arrive.

497
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it can be.

498
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Speaker 6: Annoying, Okay, it could be maybe dangerous in some cases,

499
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 6: but like we also have to open our eyes and say, okay,

500
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 6: we got to continue to support this because there is

501
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 6: a massive audience that's in love with these cars, that's

502
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 6: passionate and listen, maybe they make a living out of it,

503
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 6: maybe it inspires them to dream bigger, But I think

504
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 6: it's an exciting moment. And uh, but but yeah, I

505
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 6: think this next generation is the video game generation. You're

506
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 6: gonna see, you know, anything that was hot in a

507
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 6: video game, you know, let's call it, you know, five

508
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 6: to fifteen years ago.

509
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Speaker 1: I think that's the future.

510
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: You know, we're in July, we're all thinking already about

511
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: Monterey and Pebble Beach concorp. And I know there's a

512
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: lot of talk about how does the concor stay relevant?

513
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: You know, the concourse known for old pre war cars

514
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: and things from the fifties and forties and sixties. Maybe,

515
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: but really there is an implication that in order to

516
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: stay relevant it may need to have some of this

517
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: type of car on the field. Do you have any

518
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: ideas or opinions about that? You know, people say both things.

519
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeahari do tell Yeah.

520
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Speaker 6: I mean I think literally, look, you know, to me,

521
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 6: at the end of the day, the Pebble Beach Concourse

522
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Speaker 6: is the most important automotive event in the world, I

523
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Speaker 6: think obviously with the shift of now the new president,

524
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Speaker 6: mister Vince Finaldi.

525
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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, he's he's a nice guy.

526
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Speaker 6: You know, he's an amazing guy. He loves cars. He's

527
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 6: a car nut, you know, he's got big shoes to fill. Obviously,

528
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 6: Martin and Sandra have done it in an amazing job.

529
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 6: But I think we're going to see a shift. And

530
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Speaker 6: I think, you know, I you know, I don't know

531
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Speaker 6: all of Vince in the organization's plans, but I think

532
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 6: they they understand and they get that there is a

533
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Speaker 6: young generation that they've got to tap into. And I

534
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 6: think we are going to see the introduction of supercars

535
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Speaker 6: at Pebble Beach.

536
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Speaker 1: I think we're going to see this shift.

537
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 6: And I listen, I know, you know, Vince has owned

538
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 6: some incredible cars himself, and I know, like years ago

539
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 6: he owned a Manuel LP six forty Lamborghini, you know,

540
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 6: so like he's he's part of the next generation.

541
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Speaker 1: He's legit. So I think we will see it.

542
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 6: I think, you know, obviously, you have to give credit

543
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 6: to what what has already been built, and you want

544
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 6: to honor.

545
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: You still want to.

546
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 6: Honor the cars pre war cars, and the cars are

547
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 6: the fifties and sixties. But I think, listen, if if,

548
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 6: if they want to see that event continue to grow

549
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 6: and impact people, we've got to see a supercar class.

550
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 6: We've got to see more of these wedge shaped car classes,

551
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 6: prototype classes, you know, even the racing class. There was

552
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 6: an incredible class of GT one race cars two years

553
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 6: ago and listen, it brought out so many young people.

554
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Speaker 6: You had the McLaren F one LM you know, like

555
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 6: and that, and that is the key. And I don't

556
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Speaker 6: think anyone's rejecting it today. I think they're all thinking, well,

557
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Speaker 6: how do we do this because it's it's.

558
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Speaker 1: Coming or it's here. So and listen, you.

559
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Speaker 6: Have to you have to look at Villadeste. They have

560
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 6: a supercar class. Now you have to look at everyone else.

561
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 6: I mean, everyone else is doing it and that is

562
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Speaker 6: the focus. I mean even the Quail this year is

563
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Speaker 6: a Diablo and an F forty class, So yeah, I

564
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Speaker 6: mean that tells you right there.

565
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: And I think we're going to have some miras for

566
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: the sixty eighth anniversary of Mira. I think there's going

567
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: to be what like sixty mirrors.

568
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: Uh, that's the goal.

569
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Speaker 6: I've the rumor is they already have forty cars, which

570
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 6: is amazing, insane that will be a world record, but

571
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Speaker 6: but the goal is sixty mirrors.

572
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, it's it's huge.

573
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Speaker 4: I want to go back and just ask quickly about

574
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Speaker 4: the business part of your story.

575
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: Because we got.

576
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 4: An email, Hannah on the podcast from a kid who's

577
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 4: a sixteen year old detailer in Utah and he like

578
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 4: has visions of becoming you. You know, he wants to

579
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 4: get to a place where he can basically become a

580
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 4: supercar dealer. Would you what would you tell that kid?

581
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 4: You know, I mean, what would you say? Because you

582
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 4: had many businesses that, as you said, were like public successes,

583
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 4: like the wealthy people in the world coming over to

584
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 4: your house, but they weren't financial successes.

585
00:31:58,920 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: So what what should he do?

586
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Speaker 6: I mean, listen, when I look back on my life now,

587
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 6: I will say, you know, you know it's it has

588
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 6: not been an overnight success.

589
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm forty one, I started.

590
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 6: At eighteen, and I if you had to ask me

591
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 6: for the best advice in the world, it would You've

592
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 6: got to learn grit or you've got to have grit,

593
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 6: because you know, life.

594
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: Is not easy.

595
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 6: It's not and anybody that you know, part of the

596
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 6: thing that I hate about Instagram is we show everything

597
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 6: that's great and everything that's wonderful, but life is going

598
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 6: to throw curveballs and obstacles and it's not necessarily you know,

599
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 6: what what is thrown at you. It's how you get

600
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 6: back up and put yourself in a mindset of always

601
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 6: getting back up.

602
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: And that's the greatest gift that I've.

603
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 6: Learned, is that you know when you immediately are looking

604
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 6: at every obstacle as Okay, this is this is supposed

605
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 6: to happen, this is part of the journey, and I'm

606
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 6: going to solve this as quick as possible. You're You're

607
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 6: immediately going to get into a state of just you know, constant,

608
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 6: you know, moving forward in progression. There is no there

609
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 6: is no easy way, there is no you know, you know,

610
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 6: and I don't care what background you come from. I

611
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 6: don't even believe in you know, there's no silver spoon either.

612
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: You know, if you want.

613
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 6: To build something that's that's special and worthy, it is

614
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 6: going to take work. And you know, I would say

615
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 6: it's it's it's a combination of faith, believing in yourself,

616
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 6: believing in your vision, hard work, and then listen, when

617
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 6: the opportunity comes, you have to strike. I've seen, you know,

618
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 6: I can't tell you how many times or I've known

619
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 6: there's an opportunity in front of me, and sometimes listen, it's.

620
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: Fear that holds you back, but you know.

621
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 6: It's it's faith and hard work, and when the right

622
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 6: opportunity presents itself, you've.

623
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Speaker 1: You've got to go.

624
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 6: And I think, you know, people are so afraid sometimes

625
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 6: of making phone calls asking for help, you know, And

626
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 6: that's something that I was terrible at at a young age.

627
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 6: And now I've learned. Listen, if I want to do something,

628
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 6: I just pick up the phone. I asked, why not,

629
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,479
Speaker 6: you know, like, don't be afraid to ask or say, hey,

630
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 6: you know I need advice, or hey, would you do this?

631
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 6: Would you help me with this? Can we collaborate on this?

632
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 6: Because you never know? And I would say, also, I think, listen,

633
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 6: one of the things that I did years ago that

634
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 6: really taught me, I mean the rental car business. You know,

635
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 6: looking back, everything had to happen.

636
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: You know.

637
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 6: I went to art school as a kid. I was

638
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 6: supposed to be a trained pianist. It didn't work out.

639
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 6: I wasn't you know, I wasn't that good. But it

640
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 6: I went into a communications class and in high school

641
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 6: and it taught me, you know, so much about public

642
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 6: speaking and all these different things.

643
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: Today I use that a lot.

644
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 6: Okay, I didn't know at nineteen years old if I

645
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 6: would ever use public speaking, you know, and today I

646
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 6: use it a lot. And I'm not saying I'm the

647
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 6: best at it, but I at least learned as much

648
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 6: as I could at that age. Then with my rental

649
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 6: car business, I learned about the power of a brand

650
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 6: and building a brand, you know, my personal brand and

651
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 6: building that and you know, the use of social media.

652
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 6: So you know, the rental car business taught me the

653
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 6: use of social media and how priceless it was, you know,

654
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 6: and using that in the early days when we first

655
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 6: started with Curated, you know, no classic car dealers were

656
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 6: using Instagram or social media, so you know, that was

657
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Speaker 6: something that I learned from the rental car business. So

658
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Speaker 6: it's I think it's a sum of your life and

659
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 6: all of these things have to happen, uh and and

660
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 6: and every day is growing and every day is learning.

661
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: And by the.

662
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Speaker 4: Way, what what what What I hear you saying though,

663
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 4: is to be bold, to be I mean, to continue

664
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Speaker 4: to get back up, and then also to take advantages

665
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 4: of opportunities when you see them. And it make me

666
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 4: think of the word temerity, which is.

667
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Speaker 3: Kind of funny.

668
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Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know what Ta Marian comes from.

669
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 4: I've been thinking they named the Lamborghini after you, but

670
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 4: now maybe.

671
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: It's the deeper thing than that.

672
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so good.

673
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: Wow, I never even thought of that. It's so funny.

674
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 2: That's really smart.

675
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Speaker 4: Matt, dude, what do you think about the singerization of

676
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 4: all of these cars? Like I think the Diablo is

677
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 4: the second one that I popped under my radar, the Eccentrica.

678
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 4: But now you have the Evoluto of the F three

679
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 4: fifty five, and you have there's a five point fifty

680
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 4: one as well, the low or whatever. Like every single

681
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 4: one of the cars that you have on your showroom

682
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 4: floor is now somebody's trying to rest a mood them

683
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 4: in a in a corporate kind of way.

684
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 6: I you know, So we have a small I don't

685
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 6: even call her a restaurmant. We have a small restoration

686
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 6: project ourself. We're taking five original Diabolo GTRs so of

687
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 6: the thirty and we've road registered them. They will have

688
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 6: an AC system, they'll have roll down windows, and they

689
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 6: will be restored at the highest levels in Italy with

690
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 6: you know, Alcantara, beautiful Alcantara materials, whatever, color you want.

691
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 6: Part of the reason that we did that, honestly, was

692
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 6: not to make money. It was maybe a little bit

693
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 6: of a statement in the resto mod world, and for

694
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 6: me it was okay. The idea of a restaurmant is

695
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 6: taking something that that may not be usable or may

696
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 6: not be comfortable, and then modifying it so it's more

697
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 6: usable to a collector today that maybe loved a sixties

698
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 6: nine to eleven, but you can't drive it every day.

699
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 6: And I think that's the beauty of what Singer's done

700
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 6: is they've taken something that might not be the most

701
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 6: usable or fast, and it made it fast and something.

702
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: You could daily drive.

703
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Speaker 6: My argument, I'm not trying to start a war, but

704
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 6: my argument to some of the other restor mod brands

705
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 6: is that listen, some of the cars are already intrinsically good,

706
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 6: you know, like you know, I think there are you know,

707
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 6: a five point fifty Marinello is already an incredible car.

708
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Speaker 6: I love what Porsche's doing with their recommission with the

709
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Speaker 6: Career GTS. I love what Bugattia is doing with the

710
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 6: recommission of the Veyron. My concern always is when you're

711
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 6: modifying something that's rare, or you're modifying something you know,

712
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 6: you know overdoing it.

713
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: Does it really need it and does it require it?

714
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Speaker 6: I think if someone and there are rumors that there

715
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 6: will be a Lamborghini LM zero zero to resto mod.

716
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Speaker 2: That would make sense. That makes sense.

717
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: That is a not a great drive.

718
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 6: It's the coolest looking car ever made, and they're not

719
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 6: that usable. So you know, if you take that and

720
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 6: make it usable, make it reliable, Okay, That to me

721
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Speaker 6: embodies the idea of arrest of mind.

722
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Speaker 4: If you're gonna try and daily some old Lambeau or

723
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 4: old Ferrari, it's thank god somebody has put an air

724
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 4: conditioner in it, you know. Or yes, if I if

725
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 4: I was gonna go out and buy like a Ferrari

726
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 4: three sixty, I'd have to pay one hundred grand more

727
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 4: to get one with three pedals. I hope somebody just

728
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: put out an easy conversion kit for me.

729
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: I'll play Devil's advocate. Though, at what point do you

730
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Speaker 2: lose the magic of the original, Because I think that's

731
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: you do end up losing the charm. Charm is not

732
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: about being flawless. Charm is about personality and a story

733
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Speaker 2: that is sort of unadulterated John, you nailed.

734
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Speaker 1: It, listen.

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Speaker 6: And that's why say, like a five point fifty Marinello

736
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 6: is already as good.

737
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: Yes, it's not a it's not like driving a brand

738
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Speaker 1: new Ferrari.

739
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: Listen.

740
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Speaker 6: It has all the charm of an old car and

741
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Speaker 6: all the modern you know, accessories of a new car.

742
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 6: So like, I don't understand that as a restomod project,

743
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 6: there are cars that you know, I don't understand. I

744
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 6: don't know today, and I'll tell you in Miami if

745
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 6: I would want to be stuck in traffic in a

746
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 6: you know, seventy nine to nine thirty Turbo in Miami. Now,

747
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 6: if I lived in northern California, it'd be a different animal.

748
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: But you know I could if I had the money.

749
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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 6: But if I had the money for a Singer Turbo study,

751
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 6: that's what I would daily drive. Enough charm and enough style. Great,

752
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 6: But I agree with you one hundred percent. You don't

753
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 6: want to lose the essence of the car and the

754
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 6: whole point of it. I just don't like when things

755
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 6: get too busy, and I think that's where to me visually,

756
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 6: some of the restaurmands do bother me.

757
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: The cars already a lot, you know, intrinsically, any of

758
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: these cars are already a lot. You don't, I agree.

759
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: I don't think you need to add add on. It's

760
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 2: already screaming.

761
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 4: There are things like you know, on the five point

762
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 4: fifty that has a cam belt right that wears out

763
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 4: of three to five years.

764
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: If you already could.

765
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 4: Figure it outw to replace that with a chain or something,

766
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 4: you're good, that might be a good idea.

767
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: You know.

768
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 6: That's why I said, Okay, with Diablo gencr Let's put

769
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 6: a c let's put roll down windows, Let's do all

770
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 6: the things, you know, let's put a front lift, Let's

771
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 6: do all the things to make it usable. You know,

772
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 6: it doesn't need an extra spoiler, it doesn't need more events,

773
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 6: you know. You know, so I think it's it has

774
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 6: to be function is first, and I think that's that

775
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 6: should be the goal of the rest of MOD, where

776
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 6: let's respect the designers and engineers, and maybe the goal

777
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 6: of the rest of MOD is just you know, bringing

778
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 6: the timeline in terms of.

779
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 1: Technical a little forward. So if you know, somebody missed that, Okay,

780
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: we should have made a change driven or ah, wow,

781
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: we should have done this this way. Well, we're applying

782
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: modern science and technology to the car, but I don't

783
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: think we should lose its original form and identity. I

784
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: agree with you guys completely.

785
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: So let I want to hear your advice. And for

786
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: people who are listening, who want to potentially dip their

787
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: toe in the water of this era of Italian supercar,

788
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 2: what is your advice for what they should be looking

789
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: for or avoiding as they evaluate examples.

790
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't tell.

791
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 6: I mean I listen, even with clients that call us,

792
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 6: I think it's so important to have a third party inspection. Okay, Now,

793
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 6: find someone that knows what they're looking at, find someone

794
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 6: that's an expert of a specific car, and send them

795
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 6: to go touch, feel and look at the car.

796
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: Know what you're buying.

797
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 6: I think at the age of the auction world today,

798
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 6: there's such this impulse and and this you know rush

799
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 6: in speed, and it's like, yeah, I understand the idea

800
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 6: of you don't want to miss the car, and the

801
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 6: idea of fomo, but don't make a mistake because you

802
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 6: haven't properly done your due diligence.

803
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: And you know.

804
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 6: Again this this idea of transparency. I mean, listen, I

805
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 6: love when when a buyer you know, sends an inspector

806
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 6: to inspect a car here because listen, I know their

807
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 6: expectations are going to be met because they already know

808
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 6: what they're getting.

809
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 1: And I think you you, you, you.

810
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 6: Don't want to ruin your experience, jump into it blind

811
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 6: and have no idea what you're getting. And I think

812
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 6: as as car dealers, we should also be more responsible

813
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 6: and let people know the good, bad and ugly of sure,

814
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 6: you know, I tell guys, listen Friday and rush hour

815
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 6: traffic trying.

816
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: To go get groceries. It's not a thing.

817
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 6: Well, so I think we also have to be responsible,

818
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 6: as you know, purveyors and dealers that hey, you know,

819
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 6: what are your goals? And I think people need to

820
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 6: really slow down and think about that. Are the goals

821
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 6: as something to drive? Is it, you know, a fun

822
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 6: asset that you can share with your family and pass

823
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 6: down to the next generation. So I really think that's

824
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 6: what people need to be thinking that, you know, find

825
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 6: someone that knows exactly what they're talking about, they know

826
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 6: the details and and you know, an expert in whatever field,

827
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 6: and send that person before you just wire money or

828
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 6: just buy something like it.

829
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 2: And that that goes back to what you said earlier.

830
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 2: Don't be shy about asking people for help, for advice,

831
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: pick up the phone. You know, there's there's no shame.

832
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: This is this is how you learn.

833
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 4: Well. I really appreciate your time, and I can't wait

834
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 4: to get down and check out your showroom.

835
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 6: Man, it is your house. Anytime you guys want to

836
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 6: come down.

837
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: Talk to you.

838
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: All things all right by That was John Tamaran.

839
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 4: I just learned about him and his business in the

840
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks, and now I want to be

841
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 4: his best friend.

842
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: He's one of those people that when you first meet him,

843
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: is really nice and you're kind of like, yeah, we'll

844
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: see and then you realize, no, he's actually just a

845
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 2: nice guy. He's present, he knows what he's talking about.

846
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: He's a hard worker. I learned something every time I

847
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: talk to him. He's so fun So far.

848
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 4: The F one race has been for me the only

849
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 4: reason to go to Miami. Now have two reasons to

850
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 4: go to Miami.

851
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: You know totally. Well, yeah, you wouldn't go for the driving,

852
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: would you. There's not a lot.

853
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 3: I wouldn't go for the weather, no, yeah.

854
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 2: Same, No World Cup for us that does it for

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862
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