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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. It is Ben and I believe

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Speaker 1: it's Ashley. Is it Ashley? Oh hey, it's me, Hey Ashley.

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Speaker 1: I'm in Mesa, Arizona right now. We're practicing um for

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Speaker 1: the live tour. The Bachelor Live on Stage starts on

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Speaker 1: the thirteenth, and so right now I'm in Mesa in

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Speaker 1: my dressing room and Ashley you're in Los Angeles. So

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Speaker 1: we're not together and it's sad. Well, we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: together on Friday. We're gonna do some podcasts together. It

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Speaker 1: will be cool. And I will be making a special

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Speaker 1: appearance at the Reno date on The Bachelor Live Tour. Ben.

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Speaker 1: People are probably like, why what are you rehearsing? Like?

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Speaker 1: Are you just standing up on the mic? It's like

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Speaker 1: a Broadway show, a production you're doing. Can you explain

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Speaker 1: to people, like what's going to be happening? It's not

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Speaker 1: just watching a couple of people date. It's like you're dancing,

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Speaker 1: are you singing? I hope not? I hope. So you

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Speaker 1: know it's while. So first off, I've had a terrible

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Speaker 1: flu for three days, so I flew out here on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: which was the sixth and for the you know, since then,

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Speaker 1: I've had a fever. But We've put in like eight

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Speaker 1: to ten hour days practicing for this tour um so

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Speaker 1: I'm struggling a bit. So if I start to fall

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Speaker 1: asleep halfway through the podcast, you know why. But I

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Speaker 1: took a little break from practice to to talk to

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Speaker 1: you and talk to the audience. So but yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: been rough. I've had some some massive fevers. But I'm

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Speaker 1: glad it happened now and not why we're why we're touring.

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Speaker 1: So We've talked about a little bit, but I think

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Speaker 1: now is a really good time to talk about it

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Speaker 1: since it starts this week. So the Bachelive on Stage

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Speaker 1: tour was this idea that happened because Bachelor Nation is everywhere,

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Speaker 1: uh from big cities a small city. So we're going

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Speaker 1: to sixties six cities around the US. We're picking a

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Speaker 1: lucky local bachelor from each city and then ten women

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Speaker 1: that he's lucky enough to date on stage. They will

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Speaker 1: go through group dates one on one day. They will

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Speaker 1: have fantasy suites, they will have hometowns, they will have

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Speaker 1: the hometowns. They'll have hometowns, but the parents are all there. Actually,

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Speaker 1: this show has thought of everything. I'm not kidding it is.

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Speaker 1: I went into this when I said yes to this,

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Speaker 1: what was it seven eight months ago? I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this will be fun. It is a crew that is massive.

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Speaker 1: The amount of time and effort and money put into

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Speaker 1: the show is incredible. There they're just they've thought of everything,

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Speaker 1: and what it's really gonna do is kind of allow

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Speaker 1: fans of the show to see how the show happens

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Speaker 1: on TV except live in front of them for two

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Speaker 1: and a half hours, and possibly see if connections can

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Speaker 1: be made on stage. It's been great. I would love

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Speaker 1: to give you details, but you know, just as you

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Speaker 1: would assume, the show really wants you to have to

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Speaker 1: come to the show to experience Saturday, and then we'll

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Speaker 1: come back on the podcast and I'll talk all about

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Speaker 1: my witness experience. Yeah, it's gonna be wild. I'm super

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Speaker 1: pumped about it. It's been a lot more than I expect.

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Speaker 1: I will be dancing. I am hosting with Becca Koufrin.

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Speaker 1: They're out there practicing right now. I can look at

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Speaker 1: the screen and see them doing it. Um. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's you know, ash, It's gonna be fun and I'm

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Speaker 1: glad that we get to go to all these places

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Speaker 1: think it's really going to be an experiential trip around

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Speaker 1: the country for anybody that watches the show. So please

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Speaker 1: come out and see us at one of the sixty

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Speaker 1: six cities. You're gonna Bachelor Live on stage dot com

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Speaker 1: to find a place near you, get some tickets. Very

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Speaker 1: very cool. Are we ready to talk about hot topics

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Speaker 1: around on the Bachelor Nation? Yeah? I'm super confused by

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Speaker 1: some of these, So how about you lead us and

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Speaker 1: then I have some follow up questions just to figure

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Speaker 1: out what exactly is happening. Okay, So I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: read this statement that Tammy put out to her Instagram

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Speaker 1: last week, apologizing for being nasty. She says, quote, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to address this once and for all. Remember

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Speaker 1: that this is a show. I do take responsibility for

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Speaker 1: my action, and I never intended to hurt anyone. I'm

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Speaker 1: very sorry to those I did hurt, but my heart

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Speaker 1: don't like this apology because she started out sounding so huppy, puppy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna dress that lunch and for all um, I

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Speaker 1: about that was humorous because I'm not trying to mourn

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Speaker 1: in the past mistakes that I've made. They're all human,

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Speaker 1: We're all human, We're all human. All of us have

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Speaker 1: Remember that all of us who participated in the show

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Speaker 1: to us than we do to each other. Also respect. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I get it, Like obviously I get it. Well,

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Speaker 1: how do you do you feel like this is a

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Speaker 1: genuine apology, Ben, I think it's a genuine apology. I

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Speaker 1: just think any apology that turns it back on me

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Speaker 1: do you apologize for it? You're mean to somebody? I

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Speaker 1: think you own that. And you know, again, we've gone

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Speaker 1: through this year every year. Every year, fans need to

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Speaker 1: putting yourself out there. It's not easy. But also contestants

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Speaker 1: on the show, it's never okay for what people say

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Speaker 1: bother you. It hurts. But please know that when you

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Speaker 1: It's been happening for years, and it's happened to every

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Speaker 1: single person, and I think that's where this for me goes.

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Speaker 1: Just know Tammy, that you aren't alone in this well.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has gotten hate, and so what we should be

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Speaker 1: talking about is how do we love better and not

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Speaker 1: how do we eliminate hate more? It's I think love

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Speaker 1: I also apologies to other contestants don't have to be

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Speaker 1: today just to tell you that adults still exist on

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Speaker 1: this show, and adults really do care about each other

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Speaker 1: Uh this time on Tell All, the best way and Tammy,

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Speaker 1: Bachelor lum Crystal Nielsen calls the show environment toxic. I

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Speaker 1: continues by saying, seeing all this stuff come up from

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Speaker 1: contestants now, like blast from the past, means that anything

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Speaker 1: are leaking everyone earlier. Um, that is very interesting becau us.

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Speaker 1: There are some stories that are being drudged up about

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Speaker 1: these contestants, like um, Sydney had to go have all

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Speaker 1: all this stuff probably I don't know if it's creating

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Speaker 1: life Social media like makes life better and harder for contestants. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think it's it's just like

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Speaker 1: everything else in life. As we're young, we're gonna make mistakes.

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Speaker 1: How do we overcome those mistakes? How do we learn

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Speaker 1: from our mistakes? It's it's the whole Kevin Hart thing, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We haven't answered that question as a

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Speaker 1: something from it. How much do you feel this as

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00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 1: spoilers now? I mean, should we stop at this point?

427
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: Because I feel like, if it's true, we're spoiling the

428
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: whole thing. If it's not true, then I don't know.

429
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: But during our break, Tore said something really funny. She's like,

430
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: what if Chris Harrison interrupts that final rose ceremony as

431
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: we see in the scenes for the next episode, and

432
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: he said, we all all production just found this out.

433
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 1: Your producer just left because she can't handle seeing you

434
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: get engaged. Oh my gosh, I don't know anymore. I

435
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: don't know. Team, We're gonna have to put it, like

436
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 1: at the beginning of this podcast, say like, the first

437
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: twenty minutes of this is us speculating that something might

438
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: be true that we have no clue for it is

439
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 1: because if it's true, we just spoiled the whole entire season. Well,

440
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: you know it was bound to happen one day. Gosh,

441
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: dang it. All right, let's get into this episode. We

442
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: find ourselves in Lima, Peru, one of my favorite places

443
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 1: in the world. The food is amazing, the scenery is great,

444
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: and Peter is hoping at this point to get out

445
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: of the drama that has led him here to South America.

446
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: We find him face timing his mom. It's a sweet

447
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: moment um. So much of what we've seen in the past.

448
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: I think it's a good moment for us just to

449
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: see where he's at and what he's in touch with.

450
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: His mom is is obviously back in the US Peter

451
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: at this point. Actually, it's it's healthy for me as

452
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: a viewer to watch. I feel like every episode I

453
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: expect to see him just like in tears, in the

454
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: fetal position in the corner, being like, I don't want

455
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: to do this anymore. Every episode and every day, I

456
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,479
Speaker 1: feel like he has a great way of kind of

457
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: starting over, compartmentalizing what happened in the past and football player, Yeah,

458
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: it's weird, right on the next play, onto the next play,

459
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: onto the next game. I'm worried about Peter though, starting

460
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: with his entrance into the girl's hotel room. He's obviously

461
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 1: realizing how uh hard this has been. And here's my

462
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: thought right now, it's not been a secret. I'm a

463
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: fan of Peter. I think Peter has made some some

464
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: poor decisions along the way. I think kissing girls in

465
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: front of other girls is not great. I think he

466
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: could have put his foot down. But other than that,

467
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: Peter is a nice guy and that's really all we

468
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: want from the show. Is to see a good guy

469
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: or a good girl find good love. I'm a fan

470
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: of Peter Webber. I don't hate Peter Webber at all,

471
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: but here's my thing. I'm worried. Once he walks into

472
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: the room, that rerealized for the first time just how

473
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: much of a disconnect there are between him and these

474
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: women up to this point. Usually, when it gets down

475
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: to this many we are vested into a couple of

476
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: relationships at least, and we are familiar with every character

477
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: and we understand their stories and what their struggles are. Actually,

478
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: I watched him walk into that room and I feel

479
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: like he is he is almost the stranger walking into

480
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: a room full of not friends, just like acquaintances, and

481
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: it feels weird watching it back. The only person I

482
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: feel like he does have something genuine and strong with

483
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: is Madison, and we see him take her out on

484
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: their um on a date. One on one is their

485
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: first one since week one. Technically it was episode one. Yeah,

486
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: and I mean she she's she's so far, so far

487
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: beyond any other girl if when it comes to connection, Yeah,

488
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: that's that's obvious. I watched this date. I'm like, this

489
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: is a date, This is the funny part. Actually, their

490
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: date felt like a date that we typically during a season,

491
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: see like two weeks ago and most of the dates,

492
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: like it felt like the date where it's like, oh, yeah,

493
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: they're into each other, this is good. This happens with

494
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: like two or three different girls. Now it's just like

495
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: one good date on this show, and we're all like, oh,

496
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: there it is. It's all over. Oh I mean, I

497
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: kept saying like it's over, like just send everyone else home.

498
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: It's not even close. So, I mean, I have a

499
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: total theory that the scene to the next episode or

500
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: the coming episodes lead on, but we'll get there later.

501
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: Here's my thing with this date, though. There's a big

502
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: moment this date that bothered me. Okay, so it's the

503
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: cocktail hour or the dinner party or whatever they do

504
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: at the end, and they're sitting there and and Madison

505
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: obviously has a very strong faith. Her faith is really

506
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: important to her, and my faith is very important to me,

507
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 1: I know, along with many other people who have been

508
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: on the show. And as you start to pursue somebody

509
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: and you start to get closer and closer to the

510
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: end if you're going to continue a relationship with them,

511
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 1: these are the kind of conversations that you have to

512
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: have um almost early on and continue to build off

513
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: of faith, family, what you hope for, for what you

514
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: dream of, what your childhood dreams are, what you're pursuing

515
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: in life, like, those are important conversations, and the really

516
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 1: this one for her I was excited to see. And

517
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: she comes into it and says, Peter, here's why I'm matt.

518
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: Here's what I really want. My dad has led our

519
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: family in this way. Uh, and it's been something that

520
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: I've always wanted in a husband, Peter admits, which I'm

521
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: glad he did. Hate Faith is something I have, but

522
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: it's not been something that I put on the forefront

523
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: of my life. I think he just says it maybe

524
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: it's something that I would like to get better at,

525
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: which if I was Madison at this point, I'd say, Peter,

526
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard for me to commit to you until, like,

527
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: if this is that important to me, until I see

528
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: that right and this is a huge thing. All he

529
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: says to her is I just want you to know

530
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: how into you I am, and she goes, that's all

531
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: I need to hear. I'm like, that doesn't make sense.

532
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: We're talking about faith and what you want in the future,

533
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: and a guy says he's into you, and then it's

534
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: all good. No what what he said? Yeah, I think so.

535
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: I think he was like, faith is something that I

536
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: really want to get better at, and I'm excited about

537
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: possibly being with a woman who could really um strengthen

538
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: that department of my life. And then she was like,

539
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: that's all I have to hear is that you are

540
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: willing and excited about it becoming a bigger part of

541
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: your life. Okay. I mean, I just felt like that

542
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: conversation was one that was a big one. I felt

543
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: like it was one that could have gone a lot

544
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: of different directions, and I feel like it just settled

545
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: out to like maybe I didn't feel like I learned

546
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: anything about them other than that they're not really on

547
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: the same like page during that conversation, Like I felt

548
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: like that was one that was really going to make

549
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: or break this relationship, and I just felt like I

550
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: left it going it was okay, Well, I think we'll

551
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: see more of it next week when we go home

552
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: with him um with her and he's going to have

553
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: a conversation with her dad about this. Cool. Well, hey,

554
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: I'll be looking forward to seeing I know the woman

555
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: in the house. We're talking about Madison's faith and just

556
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: how important it was to her. So uh kudusa Madison

557
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: for being herself no matter where she's at during this experience,

558
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: and I'm glad uh that she brought up the Peter.

559
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: But at the same time, we'll flash back to the

560
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: house whether where the woman are hanging out during Peter

561
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: and Madison's date, and we find Natasha, who is yet

562
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,719
Speaker 1: to get a one on one. She's a little bit

563
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: distraught and upset about it, but hey, don't fear Natasha,

564
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: because Peter is coming through with a date card that says,

565
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: let's explore for the second one on one date of

566
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: the episode. There's like an equation to this episode every

567
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: year now. It's like to one on ones with two

568
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: shoe ins, that being Kelsey and Madison in this case

569
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: one day with a girl you're gonna dump, and then

570
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: the three on one, which is you know, always up

571
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: in there. I can't imagine to this point being Natasha

572
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: and having people get to one on ones multiple times

573
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: before you can get one. Like at that point, don't

574
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: you think you're saying it's time for me to go

575
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: like this just isn't working for us. Yeah, I would

576
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: say that, right, Am I wrong with saying like, hey,

577
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: I'll speak for contestants out there and say that if

578
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: you don't get a one on one within the first

579
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know how many weeks we

580
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: are now in week seven, Like, this probably isn't something

581
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: that you're gonna want to invest too much more into

582
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: unless you're just having a good time. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Yeah,

583
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean if it were if it were me there,

584
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: I probably just send myself home on the date I thought, Peter,

585
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: you know, I thought, well, yes, And I think that's

586
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: kind of what happened, honestly. I mean, it felt like

587
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: they sat down at dinner, Natasha pretty soon knew that

588
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: it wasn't going in a great direction. Peter knew that

589
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: I was just trying to get her to a place

590
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: where she understood. And then they mutually parted ways. They

591
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: had a great day out. I wouldn't say they mutually

592
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: parted ways. She wasn't happy. She wasn't happy. She wasn't happy,

593
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: and she was like, oh, I know I'm going to

594
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: find someone. I hope you do. Yeah, it was kind

595
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: of interesting after her comment on. You know, I got

596
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: my my ex broke up with me because I was

597
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: too intense. And then she's like, yeah, I'm gonna find somebody.

598
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: But that wasn't that wasn't in this moment for me,

599
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: I was like, oh crap, I know if I was Peter.

600
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I be thinking back in my head,

601
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: I hope I find somebody also, because now I'm nervous

602
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: not won't well. Good thing for Peter. Kelsey is still there.

603
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: Madison is still there, Hannah and is still there he

604
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 1: couldn't stop thinking about during that date. Huh. He couldn't

605
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: stop thinking about Madison during that It was good. I mean,

606
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: and I get it. When you're in love love and

607
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: some dates are better than others, it's hard to compartmentalize.

608
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: Now at that point, you almost at this point, Ashley,

609
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: during the season, I think it happens with everybody I

610
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: talked to. You start to feel like you're cheating on

611
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: the women that you care about because you're out on

612
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: dates and you're kissing other people when you are definitely

613
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: falling harder for some Now you can't just totally say hey,

614
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: it's over at this point because you still want to

615
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: explore and you still I'm as it looks like in

616
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: Peter season. There's still surprises around the corner, but need

617
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 1: to stay open to But you do. It's harder and

618
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: harder every week. Well, hey, the third date goes to

619
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: Kelsey the day card Reid's love is a wild ride, Ashley,

620
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 1: what do you think of this date? Well, they go

621
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: on a t V s up a mountain and he

622
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: is really expressing how much he loves doing stuff like

623
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: this and can't wait to do the stuff for the

624
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: rest of his life with a wife. And he tells

625
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: her this. I'm like, so Kelsey, She's like, m hmmm,

626
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm like this sounds like a nightmare. I don't think

627
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: she wants to do that for the rest of her life,

628
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: but she's gonna plow that off of the side. But

629
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: I like Kelsey a lot. She has a lot of depth.

630
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: She is so not afraid to talk about her family life,

631
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: her emotions. I like the way she said that how

632
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: she wants to be home half the week and she

633
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: wants to work too because she wants to prioritize the kids.

634
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: Like that. Um. I like the Well, it was kind

635
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: of shocking the way that she came out and said, Hey,

636
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: I have a relationship with my dad as of now,

637
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: but I haven't told my mom. So this is kind

638
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: of like something that's between you and I and hopefully

639
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't get brought up next week. That was something

640
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: so intimate personal that we don't often see. How do

641
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: you feel about that? You think that she should have

642
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: talked about her She should have talked to her mom

643
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: about this before going on the show. Typically, that's how

644
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: I would say it. You know, we've had moments like

645
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: this in the past. Typically I say, now, here's the

646
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 1: other part of this actually is, and I've been I've been.

647
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: I go back and forth because one of it is

648
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 1: is she's falling for Peter. What she obviously is. Then

649
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: this is a conversation that she would definitely want to

650
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: have before Peter met the family. She should definitely have

651
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: had the conversation. And I think it's okay because I

652
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: think that she's going to get off the show and

653
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: she's going to tell her mom right away. If anything,

654
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: she might tell her mom next week during Hometowns, and

655
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: it's but I do always feel like it's just hurts

656
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: me a little bit. I think Blake Hortsman was the

657
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: last time I really felt like this was heavy. Like

658
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: when stuff like this gets said, you know your family

659
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: is gonna watch it, and it just like stings a

660
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: little bit because I'm like, I'm just worried for what's

661
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: going to happen in the background with the family. Like,

662
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: but at the same time, maybe bring some conversations to

663
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: the surface that need to be said and need to

664
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: be talked through. But it is heavy, and as viewers,

665
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: we need to respect that that is a heavy moment

666
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: and not just like use it as our entertainment. But

667
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: know what it takes for somebody to sit there across

668
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: the table from somebody they're falling for on something they

669
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: know will be viewed by millions, But they're kind of

670
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: probably forgetting that at this point because they're so infatuated

671
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: with who this other person is and they tell us

672
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: something this intimate and this detailed. I don't I'm not

673
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: asking every contestant to do that. I don't think it's

674
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: fair of us to expect every contestant to do that.

675
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: I don't even think that most contestants have situations like

676
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: that that they're dealing with it on I agree, but

677
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, hey, Kelsey, you did it. Bachelor Nation

678
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: is behind you. Um, it's just heavy. It's a heavy

679
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: moment that we were witnessing. But as we find out,

680
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: we're going to find out next week because she is

681
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: going to hometowns, but one of these girls is not.

682
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: Let's take a break before we talk about the Hannah

683
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: and Victoria and Kelly three on one day. Before we

684
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: talk about the three on one date with Hannah and

685
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: Victoria and Kelly, I want to tease that in a

686
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: little bit, uh, Connor Saley, who was announced as the

687
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: Bachelor live on stage Bachelor in Los Angeles, will be

688
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: coming to the Almost Famous podcast today to speak to

689
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: us about that experience, what he hopes for, what he

690
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: dreams of, and if he could potentially find his soulmate

691
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 1: live on stage in Los Angeles. So tune in after

692
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: the episode breakdown and we'll give Connor a call. Ashley.

693
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: Three and one day happens. It's not unexpected, Necessarily, we

694
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: knew something like this was gonna happen at some point.

695
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: It just feels like a mixed bag of emotions from

696
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: every person there. But the one that doesn't have a

697
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: mixed bag of emotions is Kelly, who No, I'm interested

698
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: to hear your breakdown of Kelly. Kelly, why did you

699
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: have to do this? She I've been saying the entire

700
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: season that she's like awesome, but she doesn't even she

701
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: doesn't self describe that she's awesome. Right, she doesn't show ego,

702
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: but she's smart and carries herself beautifully with confidence. And

703
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: then this time she got huber Is struck. It's weird, right, Yeah,

704
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm a lawyer, the other girl. I'm always bad at this. Again,

705
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: I know it's the thing that you guys always get

706
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: on me. I'm always bad at kind of judging the

707
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: situations because I'm so sensitive to like that just kind

708
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: of arrogance or like self describing or that kind of thing.

709
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: Like I'm just very sensitive to I know that. So

710
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: I've stayed away from even like commenting on it. But

711
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: so I didn't know how you were gonna read the situation.

712
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: Batchelor nation was going to read it, but I was

713
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: watching the whole time, like, Kelly, what are you doing?

714
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: This feels like unlike you. And again it hit me

715
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: as soon as she says I'm a lawyer or I'm

716
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: an attorney, like kind of like I'm better than everybody else.

717
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 1: And at that moment, I said, WHOA, at what point

718
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: now are we putting ourselves in a scale based on

719
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: our career paths? Great that you've accomplished that, that's a

720
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: huge deal, Like, I'm super impressed. That's not something I'm

721
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: smart enough to be able to pull off, I think.

722
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: But but Kelly, Like, let's that that all of a

723
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: sudden set me back and one of my favorites all

724
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 1: of a sudden starting to be one that I wasn't

725
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: rooting for on this three on one day. I know

726
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: everybody loved Kelly. It seemed like such an undeniable thing

727
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: about amongst Batchelor nation. There were so many memes out

728
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,959
Speaker 1: there saying like the diamond and the rough right. Yeah,

729
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: but she she did a little bit for herself this week.

730
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: I can't believe that. She said, I'm an attorney, and like,

731
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: what are these other girls as if? Like your job

732
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: defines your character? That hurt That hurt me, That felt weird.

733
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing actually we're gonna talk about in

734
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: a second, I'm gonna just hint at it again. Up

735
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: until this point, Kelly was definitely my front runner to

736
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: be Bachelorette. I think now this is the last time

737
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: we see her during this season. Obviously, I think it's

738
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: a very clear picture that she will not be the

739
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 1: Bachelorrette Well, moving on from Kelly to talk about Hannah

740
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: and Hannah and uh And and Peter have the very

741
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: first conversation. This was was uniquely special for me Actuley

742
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: because it was one of those moments where I did

743
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: start to really get behind Anna and and I thought

744
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: her note to him was a sign that she's trying,

745
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: still not there yet, still not on the Madison level,

746
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: but trying. Yeah, I like go I'm a flip flopper

747
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: with Hannah An. I've never fully really liked her, and

748
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: I've also well, I guess at the beginning I fully

749
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: didn't like her, but I still she's very hard for

750
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: me to get to know, like I feel like she's

751
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: hard for Peter to get to know. I did like

752
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: her letter, it was very sweet. Um, I still am

753
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: not I'm still not sensing um a connection that goes

754
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: beyond the physical, right now, can you? I mean no,

755
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: I mean I think that's the thing I was saying earlier,

756
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: to like, there's really only one person that I'm sensing

757
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: a connection with and that's Madison. Like everybody else, it

758
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: feels like really good still first dates. Yeah, like a

759
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: girl that you like, not a girl you're falling for,

760
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: a girl you like. Yeah, like a girl that like,

761
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: Oh I'm interested in. It's not a bad thing, it's

762
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 1: not like unhealthy. It's just like, no, I don't know yet.

763
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about most of these situations. Hannah

764
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: ann was this this note and this time for them

765
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: to kind of sit down and discuss what she was into,

766
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: like what she appreciated about him was a was a

767
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: good moment this season, which here's the kicker. Most seasons

768
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: it would just be another moment, but this season it

769
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: felt like like a good moment, so true, Like how

770
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: many times do girls come to the guy with letters

771
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: all the time? Yeah, I have. I'm very neutral and

772
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: Hannah and during this conversation or not just part I

773
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: still don't know her, here's a crazy part. And not

774
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: to compare, I just was thinking about this the other night.

775
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: This episode was the episode during my season that I

776
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: let go of Becca, Tilly and the last Ferguson twin

777
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: Like that to me, those women were like huge pieces

778
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: of my life. Becca is still somebody that I wouldn

779
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: strow all my best friends who I love dearly, like

780
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: Emily was a big part of my season, who I

781
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: got to know very well and who I root for.

782
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: And I look at these women going home this week

783
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, they still aren't like they're not

784
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: even close. And I don't know if it's about them

785
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: or whatever, but you gotta think Becca Tilly went home

786
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: this week during my season, and Becca is Becca, you know,

787
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: I know, isn't that crazy? That's wild? Yeah, you guys

788
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: got really close, really close. She's the best. I love

789
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 1: that girl. So the most mind boggled from my season, Ben,

790
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: The most mind boggling part of this episode for me

791
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: was definitely a Victoria f because their conversation went so horribly.

792
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: She said to him that he's always in a mood

793
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: when she's around. No one must have been a whole

794
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: other conversation that happened that we didn't see. Because he

795
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: gives her the rose. All there is is a big

796
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: sloppy mess between the two of them, but he she

797
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: was the one that he was certain he was going

798
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: to keep around. You think, do you do you get

799
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: what's going on here with them? I mean, she's is

800
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: it just physical because once Jesse uh and Becca Martinez

801
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: pointed out a few weeks ago to me, now I

802
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: notice it. It feels like she gets up and walks

803
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: away from any times any type of like conflict. It

804
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: feels like that happens every time they're on a date,

805
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: So there's conflict most times they're talking. At what point

806
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: do you go, we just don't we aren't working, Like

807
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: this isn't good, this isn't gonna last. But it just

808
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: feels like it continues. And it's not like it's not

809
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: that was last season. Remember we were like nothing goes Yeah,

810
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: not to say that their comparable situations. This is like,

811
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: this isn't easy at this point in a relationship. This

812
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: would be like the third day in real life, right, yeah,

813
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: it's eisi going to go well, And if you're not

814
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: feeling it by the third day, you're going to cut

815
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: it off if you just can't get into a jive.

816
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: And and and to flash forward here, I almost feel

817
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: like Peter is starting to understand Victoria f more because

818
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: he knows that she's just the ball of emotion and

819
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: that she cares, but she's nervous and she can't just

820
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: break down her walls, and that's why once he's sit

821
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: down the paths of the Roses, he like kind of

822
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: teases her with it, like walks through the car because

823
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: he's like, I feel like it is his way of saying, Victoria,

824
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: f like take a breather, like, don't don't always assume

825
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: the worst here. I like you, I want to meet

826
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: your family. You're getting the rose. Yeah, And he did

827
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: that just so she can like not be so much

828
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: in her own head and he could do something special

829
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: for her because I think he really likes her and

830
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna break me if this one doesn't work before him,

831
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: because I feel like he's invested a lot into it

832
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: and he's really trying to show her that she can

833
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: be confident in what they have as far as a

834
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: poll goes, like he feels a pole towards a girl.

835
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: I think she's second to Madison, definitely, Yeah, I would

836
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: agree with that. And then I also think that he

837
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: pulls her aside and does stuff like that because she's

838
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: like second in line to Madison, and also because he

839
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: knows that she reacts better in general when she's not

840
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: an agree environment. M Now, you're right, he's going to

841
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 1: know her better Now the question is is she gonna

842
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: take some time to get to know him better and

843
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: understand who he is, because just saying you're in a

844
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: mood every time we're together is not referencing that you

845
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 1: know him any better. It's just like pretty much spouting

846
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: out that you don't really like the guy, like if

847
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: he's in a mood, if like every time Ashley and

848
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: I hung out and you're like, Ben, you're just always

849
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: in a mood when you're around me. It's like, what

850
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: you're really saying is you just don't like me. That

851
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: sounds like such a marriage comment, Like I tell Jared, like, look,

852
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: you're in a bad mood today, But you don't imagine

853
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: telling Christuls that that week. That's all. So Peter walks

854
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: back to Kelly and Hannah and Hanna and gets a rose.

855
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: Kelly is going home. He just sees them as more

856
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: and more as friends. Kelly's confidence doesn't really seem to

857
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: like be too shook. She's sad shocked, and I think

858
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 1: she's still just is confused on why these girls continue

859
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: to stay and she goes home. My question for you

860
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: actually is this, does Kelly even really want to be there?

861
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: And is she that into Peter No, because two weeks

862
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: ago or like two episodes ago, they had that day

863
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 1: where she was clearly not super into him and was like,

864
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: I'm not getting distracted by all like the drama here,

865
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: and I'm still trying to figure out basically whether I

866
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: like you enough. Right definitely, Yeah, that would be my

867
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: take as well. And then she kept saying this is fun,

868
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: and then she kept saying like I'm having a great time.

869
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm having fun. I'm having fun. And then he's like, Okay,

870
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: well I don't want you to just have fun at

871
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: this point, and she's like, it is more than just fun.

872
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: You can tell, like it was so obvious she was

873
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: going to be going home again. I again, I say,

874
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 1: at this point in the season, we're usually like really

875
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: in deep with these relationships, and it feels like most

876
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: of these women are still very surface, like this is fun. Hey,

877
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: I just want to show you my little note that

878
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: I wrote to you, and oh you're in Like these

879
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: comments to me feel very surface. So I I lead

880
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: us into this before we bring Connor on here. In

881
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: a second, I wanna ask you this, actually want to

882
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: ask you a few questions. Is this whole thing the

883
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: toxic environment that was spoken about earlier and the lack

884
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: of depth in these relationships. Is this a Peter problem

885
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 1: or is this a cast problem? This is a cast problem.

886
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: Peter may not have helped a lot of dramatic situations,

887
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: like giving some girls roses before he should have given

888
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: them roses, and then they go back to the house

889
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: and there's more drama that ensues because of it. So

890
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: he's made like some naive mistakes along the way, But

891
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: for the most part, this is definitely a cast problem.

892
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: These girls are um, they want to win. There's so

893
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: much incentive now to get far because of social media.

894
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: It's different, it's a totally different game. And I feel

895
00:47:55,040 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: like this is just is the most mature casts of

896
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: girls who have no desire. I don't know, you just

897
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: feel like it's a cast problem, a cast problem with

898
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of people who want to win and not

899
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: necessarily invest into a potential engagement and marriage that can

900
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: definitely come from the show. They're just in it to say, hey,

901
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: how long can I last? It's all how long can

902
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: I last? How long can I last? Second question to you,

903
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: I have three questions for you. By the way, we

904
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: have to talk about the teaser. Definitely who out of

905
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: all of this is right now your your bachelorette and

906
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: in the whole Bachelor nation world. I just want to

907
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: hand the Hannaby Hannathy same with me, Hannaby. Hannaby is

908
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: back to being the next bachelor in my eyes, last

909
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: thing for you, Ashley after this episode on a grade

910
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: of A to F, how is Peter Webber doing? Peter

911
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: did a good job this episode? He is he He

912
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: was what an A minus for you? Last week? What

913
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: is he just week? Okay? Think he's would be last week? Um,

914
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I think I think he gets to be

915
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: again this week. Yeah, I would say he stayed about

916
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: the same. I think he's doing a fine job. I

917
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: think that we've seen some of his biggest weaknesses in

918
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: life probably exposed during the show, like doesn't confront things

919
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: very well or doesn't really love to But he's a

920
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 1: nice guy and I just want him to find love

921
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: in this because I know he believed in finding love

922
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: in this. I knew this is a good shot for him.

923
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: I just think that at some point this has gotten

924
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 1: to be a lot for him, and I don't think

925
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: he's had a lot of women around him to help

926
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: push him forward. Ashley. Then we got to talk about this.

927
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: As you just mentioned, there's a teaser that that we

928
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: saw for the rest of the season, and right away

929
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: it was late when I watched it. I want to

930
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: call you and be like, what in the world is

931
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: going to happen? Ashley? No spoilers because you don't know them.

932
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: And let's be clear on that we don't know them.

933
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: I swear we don't know them. A lot of people

934
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: have been coming up to me and they're like, wait,

935
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: so really there this season isn't spoilable, and like, it's

936
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 1: the first time I've gone this far without truly knowing

937
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: the ending because people leak it to me thinking that

938
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: I know, and I'm like, I don't. What do you

939
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: think of this teaser? And this teaser is always one

940
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: that gets me. What is your breakdown of what you

941
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: think possibly could happen right now? Okay, I have a

942
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: very well formed idea. So I think that Madison is

943
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: basically like the one, and I think he knows Madison's

944
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: the one, but I think he goes into fantasy sweets

945
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: and I think he sleeps with another girl knowing that

946
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: that um Madison is saving herself for marriage, and I

947
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: think that hearing that in the coming weeks, he gets

948
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: scared because he has talked about how important sex is

949
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 1: in a relationship with him, and I think that he's

950
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: not sure if he can really wait for marriage to

951
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: determine whether or not that component of the relationship is

952
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: strong enough. Like he doesn't want to go. I don't

953
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: think he wants to go into marriage. Um, you know,

954
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: like not having had sex with somebody. I really just

955
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: don't think he does. And I think that freaks him out.

956
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: And then I think he ends up sleeping with another girl.

957
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: Madison finds out about it, She's not sure she wants

958
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: to be with him anymore. I actually think it's a

959
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: huge turn off for her, and I think that that

960
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: is going to be a big break between Peter and Madison.

961
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: And I think the mom saying come bring her here

962
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: is like, you better figure your crap out because if

963
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: you don't, you're gonna lose this amazing woman and you

964
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: gotta winter back. It's definitely a winning back situation. Do

965
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: I have a different interpretation than you did? No, I

966
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: don't know how to play out this. Uh Madison saving

967
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: yourself for marriage? And then um, Peter admitting what we think,

968
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: he admits to having sex with somebody else, and if

969
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: he knew this and it was if it was so

970
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: important to Madison and Madison was the one at the end,

971
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that is a massive like, if

972
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: this is the ACE, it would be a massive issue

973
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: for her, and I get that, like, I think I

974
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: can't speak to that, but I would imagine that would

975
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: hurt like her and be confusing, especially if you're pursuing

976
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: an engagement where just like, hey, what do you like?

977
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: You knew this was important to me? You knew this

978
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: was something I was saving myself for. Why is it

979
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: um then that you feel like you can can do this?

980
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: It could be that if it's not that, I don't

981
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: I just don't get that. I'm not making sense here.

982
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: Let me be clear. I don't understand within any of

983
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: that thought process what Chris Harrison is telling him. That

984
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: is the part I disagree with you, and I just

985
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: don't think it's clear to us when he comes up

986
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: and says, I don't know what that would be. I

987
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: agree with you. I think it's a totally separate thing.

988
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: And I think what he comes up to say, it's

989
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: actually just going to be nothing. It's gonna be one

990
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: of those teasers that, unlike the unlike the Hannah confrontation

991
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: with Luke, and unlike the fence jump, it's actually going

992
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: to be very anti climatic. But it's such a good

993
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: tease for the entire season. But I still think that

994
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: he may not end up proposing to anyone at the

995
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: end of this because I think he wants to propose

996
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: to Madison, but he is very conflicted with the sex situation.

997
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: H Okay, I think you might be right. Yeah, there's

998
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: always that moment too. We've we've been used to it

999
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: over the years to where it's like the teaser proves true,

1000
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: but this might be the one where it doesn't. Hey, Ashley, um,

1001
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: we gotta get Connor on the on the line. Let's

1002
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 1: get Connor on the line. We'll come back with Connor

1003
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: Saley as he is the l a bachelor for Batchel

1004
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: Alive on stage. My man, Conna Saley is on the

1005
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: line right now, Ashley and I are so pumped to

1006
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: talk to you. Connor. How you doing, buddy, I'm good.

1007
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: What's up, guys? What are you doing so good? Connor?

1008
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: We gotta chat right now as our listeners know. I'm

1009
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: in Mesa, Arizona. We're getting ready for our very first

1010
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: world premiere of The Bachelor Live on Stage tour it

1011
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: but we'll be seeing you soon in Los Angeles. Connor,

1012
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: how in the world did you end up getting asked

1013
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: to be the Bachelor in l A? And let me

1014
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: tell you this. I'll preface this, was saying the response

1015
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: has been outrageous. It's so everybody's so excited for you.

1016
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: Oh look I am I'm fired off. Um. I had

1017
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: a great experience on the show, and what better way

1018
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: to kind of keep that going live on stage where

1019
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: it all started back in l A. So I'm fired off.

1020
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: You're known from Hannah by season of The Bachelorette. Uh,

1021
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: you were seeing Kalin and then when after Whitney once

1022
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: our boy Dean came back into the picture. Connor, you've

1023
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: experienced some disappointment from the show, especially in Paradise. How

1024
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: are you going to navigate this to not experience so

1025
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: much disappointment at Bachelor Live on Stage? Uh? That's a

1026
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: good question. Um, yeah, I mean I think going through

1027
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: the other shows, it's a lot of ups and downs,

1028
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: highs and lows, and I think you learned from all

1029
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: those experiences. I think it'll be a lot easier because

1030
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: I'm the one hanging out the roses. Um, so that

1031
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: will make it a lot easier for me. But um,

1032
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 1: I think I've just learned a lot more about myself

1033
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: and what I'm looking for in a partner, and um,

1034
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: I think that will help me a lot along the way.

1035
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: So as we prep here and then we throw it

1036
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: over to Ashley to ask a couple of questions as

1037
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: we prep here for Batchelorive on stage. What's something that

1038
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: you're excited about and what do you know about the

1039
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: show so far or any questions for me? Um? Well, yeah,

1040
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean I'm fired up for the show. I saw

1041
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: the the live thing on the Straight Handing Sarah show.

1042
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: That was awesome. It's cool to get a little glimpse

1043
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: into what it's gonna be like. Um the singing date, Uh,

1044
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 1: kind of those questions that question game date. It looks

1045
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: so much fun and um so I'm fired up for that,

1046
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: excited to meet all the women that are gonna be there. Um,

1047
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: it should be a really fun night, which I'm excited for.

1048
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: And I think it takes a lot of the normal

1049
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: stress of the show away and it's really just more

1050
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: centered around having a good time. So I'm fired up

1051
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: for that. Curious for you, what are the what are

1052
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 1: the fantasy suitets like? Because I heard then there's definitely

1053
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: gonna be fantasy suits. It's gonna be wild connor um.

1054
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: So here's what you know, obviously, fantasy suits. You can

1055
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: think about it this way. I don't want to give

1056
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: all the secrets away to the show because people have

1057
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: to come and experience it live on stage. But I'll

1058
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 1: tell you this, just like fantasy sweets are are meant

1059
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: during the show to be your first time in private

1060
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: kind of a way um from the cameras, it's the

1061
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 1: same concept on the show. Really, the fantasy sweets are

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00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: what you want to make it. There's no pressure to

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00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: do anything right, and but on the live on stage

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00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: it's your first time kind of getting separated from the audience,

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00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: even though the audience is still able to witness. And

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00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: that's how I'll leave it. It's it's crazy, it's really

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00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: well on and I think it will be that moment

1068
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: during the live stage show where you can really start

1069
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: to invest into some of these people. Yasha, I gotsha. Yeah,

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00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: that's awesome. It will be. It's not inappropriate though, buddy,

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00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: I will tell you that that you're gonna you will

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00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: still be the true gentleman that you consider yourself during

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00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: it exactly. Yeah, do you have any advice for me

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00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: and handing out the roses? Well, you know, I think

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00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: this is it. You know. The Bachelor Live on Stage

1076
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: show was meant to be a thankula Bachelor Bachelor Nation.

1077
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: It is supposed to be the first time that Batchelor

1078
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: Nation can come in and be a part of this

1079
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: experience and watch it go down right in front of

1080
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: their faces. So my advice would be, be yourself, man,

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00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, and I want to I'm so excited to

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00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: hear from Ashley here. But one of the things is

1083
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: be yourself. Uh, have fun with it. It's one night

1084
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: to see if there's possible connection on stage, and maybe

1085
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: then you can see if things flourish from then on

1086
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: out and we'll kind of follow your story after that.

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00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: But really it's just a good time to meet people

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00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: in your area, to have fun with it, and to

1089
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: see this whole concept of finding love in the public eye,

1090
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: in front of the public. Just have fun. It's not

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00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: gonna be low, very low pressure Ashley, I gotta ask you.

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00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: When we announced Connor as our bachelor in Los Angeles,

1093
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: people flipped like he Like I knew he's I mean,

1094
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: he's obviously a good looking dude, very smart, well put together,

1095
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: great guy, but when he was announced people went ecstatic

1096
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: for I had no clue there was so much love

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00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: for Connor out there. Do you feel that? I got

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00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: an email Connor from a girl who does publicity in

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00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: Los Angeles and she was like, I know this is

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00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: a long shot, but if you have any way of

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00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: helping me get on like Connor's cast during Bachelor Live,

1102
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: can you help me? So I forwarded it to Ben

1103
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: and then Ben said like, I got you. So who

1104
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: knows this girl? Maybe one of your ladies? So yeah,

1105
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: there is definitely excitement people are trying to get in.

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00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: Um my question is it's l a, but don't you

1107
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: live in Texas? I do. I do live in Dallas.

1108
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: But I heard that even if you do find a

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00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: girl that you really like from here, as long as

1110
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: you like her enough, you're you're down to make it longer. Sence, Yeah,

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00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: absolutely definitely. I mean it's it's kind of the same

1112
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: concept with the you're the main shows. Most of those

1113
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: people live in different areas, and you find someone you

1114
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: connect with, um and you want to make it work.

1115
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: You find a way to make it work. So we'll see,

1116
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. But I'm I'm looking forward to it,

1117
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,479
Speaker 1: and I'm really honored to be the Bachelor in l A. UM,

1118
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: I want to know how you're going to do in

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00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: front of a live audience versus a TV audience, because

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00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: like obviously a TV audience like they're not going to

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00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: they're judging you, giving their feedback months later after the

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00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: action is already done. Do I feel like there's more

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00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: press or with a live audience? Are you going to

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01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: let them sway you? Yeah? I agree. I mean I

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01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: want them to help me with the decisions because they

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01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: might see things that I don't. But unfortunately, I think

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01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: having I was on the finale of the Bachelor when

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01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: I met Hannah, um so there was a live audience

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01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: there and I think that was super helpful to go

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01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: through that experience and then go on to those shows.

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01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: Um So, I think some of that stuff will kind

1132
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: of help with this experience, but it'll definitely be like

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01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: nothing I've experienced before. So I'm looking forward to it.

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01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: You're also going to be like possibly kissing girls in

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01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: front of an audience and like having first conversations in

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01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: front of an audience, and it just feels it's like,

1137
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: how are you used to stage shows? Have you been?

1138
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: Are you afraid of public speaking? Like it's a whole

1139
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: other nerve component component in my opinion, versus being on camera,

1140
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: Like cameras don't always make me nerves, don't really make

1141
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: me nervous, but a live audience you feel like you

1142
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: have to like meet their expectations. You want to entertain them. Yeah, yeah, no,

1143
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: I agree. Um I was a bookworm in the fifth

1144
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: grade play, so maybe, but um no, yeah, I mean

1145
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: it will definitely be a lot different. I'm looking forward

1146
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: to it. I think, you know, bachelord Nations really great.

1147
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: All the fans and um, you know they they're gonna

1148
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: help me find find the one for me. So yeah,

1149
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,959
Speaker 1: I trust their opinions and it'll be a lot of fun.

1150
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,479
Speaker 1: And I'm there, like you know, Beck and I will,

1151
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: we'll be co hosting this. We're gonna be there to

1152
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: help you out, We'll walk you through this. I'll be

1153
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: nervous to man, I mean, Ashley, can you imagine what

1154
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: we're about to walk into, like two thousand people every

1155
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: night watching us put on this show on stage, like

1156
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: it is a whole new beast, and as we prep

1157
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: right now for it and practice it, like I get

1158
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: nervous just standing up on stage, So I'll be nervous

1159
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: there with you, but you know, hey, we'll coach you

1160
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: through it. Yeah. I appreciate. And I heard you're gonna

1161
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:04,439
Speaker 1: be uh bust some moves on stage. Is that true? Oh? Yeah, definitely. Man.

1162
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: I I mean, I've got these dance shoes and I'm

1163
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: looking at right now that I'm telling you, like, the

1164
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: moves that I'm pulling off have never been seen before.

1165
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: They It takes a lot of flexibility to pull off

1166
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: what I'm about to do, and it looks it looks

1167
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: really ugly while I'll do it, but I'm gonna try

1168
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: my hardest. Bud Well, You're gonna have to teach you

1169
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: some pointers because from one one tall guy to another. Uh,

1170
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, definitely don't have the best moves, but working

1171
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: on it. Connor, final question for you before I let

1172
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, we've seen your love stories play out,

1173
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: We've seen you put yourself out there. Um, what is

1174
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: it that you're looking for in a partner, a friend,

1175
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: a confidante. Yeah, I mean I think you know someone

1176
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: who's outgoing, adventurous. I'm kind of a eider guys with

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01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: someone that brings out, uh, that brings me out of

1178
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: my shell a little bit. I think that's super important

1179
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: to me. But you know, also someone that just kind

1180
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: of like loves you back, I guess, and that's something

1181
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: that I think has been missing in the last couple

1182
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: of relationships that have been seen on TV. UM. And

1183
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: then the other thing is just that spark. It's kind

1184
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: of like undefinable thing that you can't really describe. It's

1185
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: just that feeling you get with someone, especially when you

1186
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: first meet them. Um, And to me, it's really important

1187
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: to have that. So kind of all those things and

1188
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: a lot more too. But you know, I'm really open

1189
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: to to anything. Hey, we can't wait to have you

1190
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: on stage man, thanks for doing it. It will be fun.

1191
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: What a cool I hope you feel how big of

1192
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: a compliment is to you, uh to have you as

1193
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: our l a Batchelor. It's gonna be a wild night

1194
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: with a bunch of people from Batchel Nation joining us. Hey,

1195
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: Connor Sayley, thank you for coming Almost Finist podcast. Yes, sir,

1196
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: thank you. Guys. Me on before we say goodbye to

1197
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: you all today. It's been an awesome podcast. I think

1198
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: these episodes always get better and better every year because

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01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: there's just more and more to talk about. UH, and

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01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: we want to hear from you. We've asked to hear

1201
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: from you. We have a few emails that we're gonna

1202
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: read through before we say goodbye. The first one is

1203
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: from Rachel says, I don't understand why Peter was questioning

1204
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: Hannah and so much about if she was ready for

1205
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: marriage or even been in love because she's twenty three. Madison,

1206
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: who was a front runner, is also twenty three. What

1207
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: are your thoughts. I don't think it's the age that matters.

1208
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: I think it's just probably the posture that they're coming

1209
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: into each conversation. I think Madison is probably coming into

1210
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: each conversation talking about the future, UH, talking about her

1211
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: dreams and what she had desires UH and a partner,

1212
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: and I haven't heard that of Hannah and yet. So

1213
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: it's not as much about the age as the person

1214
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: and what they're kind of communicating to Peter. Ashley, do

1215
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: you agree I completely agree, and I am mind boggled

1216
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: by this email from Sky, who writes in some new

1217
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: Chase Rice lyrics from a song called Lonely. If you

1218
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: are y'all, these are the lyrics if it's Monday and

1219
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: it's over, you know, the show your girls all come

1220
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: over for, and the red wines getting lower and your

1221
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: last friends out the door when you're when there's no

1222
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: more roses to go around. Hit me up, girl, you

1223
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: know I'm down. Oh wow, my god, dude, you didn't

1224
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: just have a one night stand with her. You're into her?

1225
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,439
Speaker 1: You he likes her? Is that what it means he's

1226
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: running away from this whole thing at first? Is he

1227
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: running back into it now he's trying to get her back,

1228
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: or he's just trying to get a lot of buzz.

1229
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I know you're loving it.

1230
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: We're loving it here. Hey, Ashley, what a podcast, some

1231
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: crazy breaking news. We'll talk to you very soon with

1232
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: the next episode, which is Hometowns of Peter season of

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01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: The Bachelor. With that I've Been Been, I've been Ashley. Bye, guys,

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01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: thank you for listening. Follow the Benn and Ashley I

1235
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcasts on I Heart Radio, or subscribe wherever

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01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts.