1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season twenty eight, episode two. Guys, 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Yeah for April two thousand and eight. Team, my name 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: is Jack O'Brien a K pick potatoes O'Brien. That is 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: courtesy of Chris Oiley a olivation. Uh. That's referring back 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: to my homespun heating pad remedy that I bestowed on 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: you guys yesterday. You just boil or nuke a potato. 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: It retains a teat better than a warm wash cloth. 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: Just trying to give you guys a million dollars worth 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: of game for Pine and I am thrilled to be 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles Gray, 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: the one they called John bong Jovi or Bonghi there. 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: Thank you for that a K from New a k 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: A maker Christi Yamaguchi main, thank you for that one 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: great a good handle. And also it is April, also 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: known as pixanchors in our meaning a meaning April to four, 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: which marks the beginning of the Armenian genocide. Now there 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: are a lot of people marching in l A. This 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: is kind of a close thing to me because I 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: have many Armenian friends. My godson is Armenian and I 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: know that the governments of Turkey the United States are 21 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: still not recognizing the genocide of the Armenian people in Turkey. 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: So again, shoutouts to y'all and shout out the highest 23 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: time uh. And we are thrilled to be joined in 24 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: our third seat by one of the all time great 25 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: hilarious stand up median Caitlyn Gil. I've never given myself pretty. 26 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: She just caught a live chicken in our studio. I 27 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: would be pretty proud if it doesn't that as well. 28 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: I gave myself a hot intro and cott a chicken. 29 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: I saw you beating the ship out of a side 30 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: of beef earlier. It's gonna stay ready, Stay ready, that is, Caitlin. 31 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: What is something from your search history that is revealing 32 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: about who you are? I had to look up X 33 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: Men movie with Santsa in it because I have lost 34 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: track of X Men movies, yes, and I came across 35 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: one on HBO Class. I think I think there's one 36 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: after first Class. I don't know, Like I did look 37 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: it up, like I hit go, and then I saw 38 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: the result and was like, still don't know what this is. 39 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: I've watched the movie and I still don't know what 40 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: that movie was, but it's a lot of young X 41 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: Men running around and one of them is Santa Stark. 42 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: Also has a name that is in Santa Stark. But 43 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: until the end of the next season I or the 44 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: continuation of this final season, I'm not going to know 45 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: what it is. Yeah, I'm pretty sure, like three more 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: years for it to come out, right, A pretty sure. 47 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: The name of that movie is X Men Babies they 48 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: come X Man Baby Bosses. What else? I Oh, Olympia 49 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: and Rainier beer. I drunkenly research whether or not they 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: have a rivalry. I did not complete that search, so 51 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I did Washington Washington beers yes, 52 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: and it occurred to me in a Washington bar. I'm 53 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: recently returned freshly back last night, arrived from a Northwest trip. 54 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: Was in Portland and Seattle for shows. I told jokes 55 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: and it was fun, but I had to research their 56 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: beer beef and if there is I just I had 57 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: Olympia for the first time, like maybe two years ago. 58 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: A friend of mine, Kevin Parker Flynn shout out to 59 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: you from Kennewick, Washington. He was like, oh, they got 60 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: the Olympias at this liquor sture. I didn't know what 61 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: the funk they were, and I was like, oh, this 62 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: is just I like a regional, just sort of regular 63 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: beers because they don't taste very different to me except 64 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: for the can. But I'm like, oh, this is what 65 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: y'all drink up there, and I'm like, taste like exactly pretty. 66 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm also not a hophead, so I don't have discerning 67 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: taste when it comes to beer. I feel like that's 68 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: a family of beer that is like brewed to have 69 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: no distinguishing flavor. It's meant to be as palatable and 70 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: approachable as possible to know just that that class of 71 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: like light taste de lager. You know you Budewisers, etcetera. 72 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: If Bud gets mad at your podcast, I'm very sorry, 73 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: but I wanted to see if there was a head 74 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: clash between the light beers of Washington and Still I 75 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: still don't know TBD. I just want to shout out 76 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: National Bohemia and Natty Bow. That's another regional beer that 77 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: I was put onto it. I was like, Okay, I 78 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: like the names that people have for it. Snentucky could 79 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: snack Baby can't be Portland's finest weirdest multi beer. What 80 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: is that called mon Entucky Cold Snack? I don't understand 81 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: any why any one of those words is the name 82 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: of the beer. But it's a cool camp Okay. I 83 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: like that pony on it. Yeah, that's a cool name, isn't. 84 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: What is something that's underrated? Underrated? Um? I feel like 85 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: I wrote down prescription sunglasses, and then I was trying 86 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: to remember if I said that last time I was here, 87 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: and even if I did, I stand by it. Okay, 88 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: I don't recall you saying that we're doing underrated right? Yes, yes, okay, 89 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: because they are most certainly not overrated underrated. They just 90 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: an investment, you know, making yourself and then you have 91 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: them and it changes your life for the better any 92 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: way that you didn't know you needed. But honey, you 93 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: do right right. My eyesight is just good enough that 94 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: I only wear glasses when I go to the movies 95 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: and I'm driving at night and stuff. So I've never 96 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: known yourself, I've never known the pain of tossing on 97 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: the glasses. And I can't see very well, but I 98 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: guess true. Yeah, if I had those one, I would 99 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: see the trees and leaves. Trees have leaves, they're not 100 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: screen and more fish shapes and like those signs on 101 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: the street I've worked on, which is crazy. I think 102 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: the first time I got my glasses, I felt like 103 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: I was cheating myself and I was like, yo, I 104 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: forgot about leaves because I was like, was that just 105 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: going the last like eight years not noticing that? Yeah? 106 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: Eight just like Super Mariot, like it came out of 107 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: Minecraft or some ship. Yeah, yours is more timely, more 108 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: up to date. Well, look like stay relevant to the kids. 109 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: When you guys first start wearing glasses, did colors seem 110 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: more vibrant? I don't see color. It was weird. That's 111 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: a problem, Yes it is. Yeah, yeah, I see race though. 112 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: Primary colors are very very bad. Uh. Yeah, I don't 113 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: know why that is. And I've tried to ask people 114 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: why the colors seemed more vibrant Once I could see 115 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: things more distinctly, and it's got to be some information. 116 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: Your brain was like struggling to fill in before word out, 117 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, this is easy. That's a lot of great. Yeah, 118 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: so you've worn glass your whole life? No, I I 119 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: got lucky my folks but did from when they were 120 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: little tiny kids, and then I didn't need them until 121 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: I was much later and realized that driving shouldn't give 122 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: normal people a headache, and you can usually tell what 123 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: signs safe from far away. And then with the revelation 124 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: of prescription eyeglasses, before were you just kind of having 125 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: sunglasses on and being like just squinting ad hard, or like, 126 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: would you ever put like this the eyeglasses and then 127 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: put the sunglasses over? I have done both, but for 128 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: many years when I just didn't have glasses when I 129 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: probably need them, I just shade it up my blindlass 130 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: eyes and hit the road. So apologies to the fellow 131 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: motorists of California. For several years, I was ignorant as 132 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: to my own Okay, we're safe. A prescription sunglasses the 133 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: most adult purchase I've ever made, and I own a car. 134 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: So I did the best thing, do it? Go get them? 135 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: They're underrated. You want them believing you got me thinking 136 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: about you got that same money? I don't. I don't 137 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: even know what that means, but I think I have 138 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: spend it in a certain amount of times. Right, get 139 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: the sun. Fortunately, during that period, you were the only 140 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: bed driver in California. So what is something Caitlin that 141 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: is overrated. Deviled eggs go home. That take have to 142 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: take my sweatshirt. You're an egg egg with more eggy 143 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: stuff blended into the middle of the egg. It is 144 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: the fussiest dish that you are not transforming in the least. 145 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: Just put paprika on a hard boiled egg and let's 146 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: not pretend it's a party dish. I just don't like 147 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: them personally. You are not an egg fan at all. 148 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: I had to learn how to like eggs, so no, 149 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm not like offering me just an egg to love 150 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: the bomb. Yes, wait, so how do you wait? What 151 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: do you mean you have to learn to like so 152 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: you didn't like him all when I was a kid, 153 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: just through repetitions the grown up, I was like, it 154 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: is it is unacceptable to not like eggs. You live 155 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: in a world where I travel a lot. There's I'm 156 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: just gonna have to eat an egg some time. Uh, 157 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: you can't pick them off your sandwiches at the start, devilgs, 158 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: I just like problem now, Yeah, well I still went. 159 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: I only have been once, and I've been on the road, 160 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: and that feels like I made a major sacrifice and 161 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: that's terrible. Yeah, well, looking a lot hard for social sens. 162 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: Ever since, ever since they changed their app to like 163 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: when you had to re up it used to be 164 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: ten bucks. Now they're adding twenty five bucks at a time. 165 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: Come on, you know I got some money spending there then, 166 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: I mean, really, I just do it for the cold brew. 167 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: But you know, now you know people are putting me 168 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: on a different kinds of cold brew, Y might start 169 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: making out. Yeah, it's really easy. We can talk about that. 170 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: It's under raged. But double leggs are gross and you 171 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: just cut them up and then you do with all 172 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: the fussy stuff. You have to be fussy. You have 173 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: to pull out just the yolk, and then you blended 174 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: around with like Mayo as I understand, which is an 175 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: egg based product. It's just putting in your eggs. I 176 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: just feel like it gets egg shaped egg salad. It's like, right, 177 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: it's just not Why would you ask your poor loving 178 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: relative to finicky, fussily pop out a bunch of pluffier 179 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: Yeah it's funny because I remember loving them and I 180 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I'm gonna make some. Then 181 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: I tried make them and that was a close. I 182 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: was like, it's like piping out yolk in a like 183 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: into a thing. I'm like, why am I pass? It's 184 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: all about the presentation when really, as you say, Jack, 185 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: I really would just eat a fucking bucket of egg 186 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: salad and we really achieved the same. I feel like 187 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: they are like a relic from those weird seventies like 188 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:22,239 Speaker 1: or fifties cooking, like the wild recipes of like banana hollandaise, 189 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: banana ham hollandaise, an actual recipe. We did an article 190 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,359 Speaker 1: on this cracked where somebody went back and like, ebaye 191 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: a bunch of cookbooks from like the fifties and sixties, 192 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: and like they were super into mixing like fruit with 193 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: ham and sauce, and they were everything was jello, Like yeah, 194 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: they would be like a roast beef inside jello, like 195 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: ham salad with jello and something like they were just 196 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: all about mixing things with jello because jello, I guess, 197 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: had just been invented. It was like considered the food 198 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: of the future. I mean, jella, it's been around for 199 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: a minute. I don't know why it has these food 200 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: renaissances where it's like we're fascinated by suspending things in it, 201 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: Like that's not appetizing that's never looked good. I've heardgs 202 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: just weaseled their way out from that ero where we 203 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: were like, yeah, just sliced four apples and then you 204 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: put What you do is you put a steak on 205 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: each one of them and then you melt a gooey 206 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: cheese that I don't know that sounded better than sounded better? Yeah, yeah, 207 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: that was actually deviled eggs belong in the same book. 208 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: Cut the egg, pull out the middle of the egg, 209 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: whip it with more egg, and then put it back 210 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: like a twice baked potato kind of thing, where you 211 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: just like, those are delicious potatoes. I know, I'm not 212 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: saying they're bad, but like lodge, it's the same process. Right, 213 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: You're you're you're having a potato, You're you're gutting it, 214 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: and then you're just reintroducing it with some more stuff. Man, 215 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: I love. Look, it would the same if you were 216 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: taking that potato, scooping it out and then mixing it 217 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: with a potato based product and then putting it back 218 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: in the potato. Do the twice baked gets cheese that 219 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: gets that's good stuff. That would be funny. So then 220 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: maybe we need to elevate the devil degg a little bit. 221 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: So I take the or I take the inside of 222 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: the potato out and mix it with mashed potatoes, and 223 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: then I wait, what about it. I'm wrong, but devil 224 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: dates are terrible. Yeah, no, you don't say you're wrong. 225 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: You know it's fine. People like watch them and enjoy them. 226 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: So I understand that some people get it, but I don't. 227 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't get it. I think one of 228 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: the most underrated things is how much better food has gotten, 229 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: like in the last hundred years. Basically, yeah, like people's 230 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: fingers wearing your like ground up beef like the past. Yeah, 231 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: I am so about people's hands. I'm so weird it 232 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: out and grossed out, like people just separated industrial food. 233 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: Only machines have touched my food. That's more appealing than 234 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: some farmers. I'll take the hands. I'll take the hands. 235 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: There's the wild finger nail in there too. But they 236 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: used to like put such weird chemicals in there, and 237 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: we just think, well, it was the olden days, so 238 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: it's more nat troll. But it was like they could 239 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: get away with putting whatever the fun they wanted in there, 240 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: Like there was just no regulation because I look at 241 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: like pictures of my dad and his friends back and 242 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: they'm like, how everybody have a six pack? And they're like, 243 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: we were just like moving around different. Wasn't like we 244 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: were eating like vegans or whatever. I just had a 245 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: job where I was not sitting talking into a microphone. 246 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: All right, Myles actually hasn't moved from a seat since yesterday. 247 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: Not because I have a terrible stomach ake. Yeah. Also, 248 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: it's easier to be thin when the food is garbage, right, 249 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: when it's hollandaise on a banana. Yeah, my dad was like, 250 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: oh yeah, the secret food was terrible, poisonous. I lost 251 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: many friends. Kay. When what's a myth? What's something people 252 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: think it is true that you know to be false. 253 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: Here's a myth I found it. Comedians everywhere have started 254 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: putting on some very funny shows with teams relating to 255 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: getting comedians high. And I am a comedian who has 256 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: been stone with little interruption for approximately twenty four years, 257 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: often recruited for these shows, and just as an advocate 258 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: for comedians in general and for those who smoke the cannabis. 259 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: You kid, we don't work. You've got to get the 260 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: unsuspecting ones. You can't get me high enough for your 261 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: theory act weird. Yeah, the myth is that you can 262 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: get me high enough to be funnier on your show 263 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: than I would be if I was a regular kind 264 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: of high, and you can't. And I'm just the regular 265 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: kind of high. The crowd can get higher, other comics 266 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: can not me. I'm up here in the clouds. You're 267 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: all just joined me. I did a very fun show 268 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: in Seattle where I promised the crowd that I would 269 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: get high enough to explain my life philosophy. And I 270 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: will confess that I did, but I didn't do it 271 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: because I was don't. I promised just very workman like 272 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: about getting high, and yeah, popular concept even like when 273 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: I was producing video like it was like just add 274 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: weed to this format exactly, sort of thing of like, yeah, 275 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: just just get them high and do the show like that. 276 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: That is a myth I want to display. Adding weed 277 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: to your format isn't to help. It felt very specific 278 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: until you made it broader, and I appreciate that spelling 279 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 1: a myth that applied only to me. This is a 280 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: much broader myth, and I was something I wrestled with 281 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: the two trying to make videos like that, is that 282 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: you have to really be conscious of who it is 283 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: that smoking, because you could be someone like you or 284 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: I were, and they're like, maybe your eyes look different 285 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: or whatever, versus someone who's like smoked weed fifteen years ago, 286 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: was right, whoa, that's what they're looking for or that's 287 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: the illusion that they think happened. So that doesn't happen. 288 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: When you get the person who hasn't smoke weed and 289 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: fifteen years high, they are afraid and you need to 290 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: comfort them away from the camera in the microphone. They 291 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: need your care now when you do it. Yeah, I 292 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: think Jack Black maybe went on getting dug with high 293 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: once and got like too high, and allegedly it was 294 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: not entertaining. Everyone's like, okay, I'm dying of a heart 295 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: attack and you are as stone as you would have 296 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: been for the show anyway, Or you are making the 297 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: crowd concerned for a start, and that's not vibe you want. 298 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: Where you're an audience member at a comedy show and 299 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: you're like, oh my, are they okay? I got Jack? 300 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: Like seems like so much fun? Is he already? The 301 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: opposite of the feeling you're going forward to go to. 302 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: You want to go to laugh and be like, oh, ship, 303 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: so just acknowledge that your comedians are probably already high. 304 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: If they should be, listeners will be like, but you 305 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: guys just did that on because Miles and our guest 306 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: Josh smoked before, and it was purely ceremonial. Miles was 307 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: not different at all. It was just it was just 308 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: a way to honor the high holiday in the beginning. 309 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: Anything else, I just I pretended I wasn't as high 310 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: in the beginning. But I told Jack after, Its like 311 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: the first ten minutes I remember anything. I mean, I know, 312 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: I was talking and then I kept looking at Nick 313 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: in the control and be like, dude, no, he's gonna 314 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: bail me out and edit this. I sounded, yeah he did. 315 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: All your sentences were backwards. He yea reverse. The order 316 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: was very strange. All right, let's get into format. We 317 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: are trying to take a sample of the global slash 318 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: national share consciousness, what people are thinking and talking about 319 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: right now. Uh. So there are two tragedies that happened 320 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: in the past couple of days, uh, the waffle house 321 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: shooting on Sunday, I believe, and the Toronto van attack yesterday. 322 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: And I was just amazed today because I went to 323 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: the front of Drudge. I always like to check Grudge 324 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: to see what conservatives are freaking out about. And uh, 325 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: neither of those stories was anywhere on the front page 326 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: of Drudge nowhere, Like you couldn't find literally anything about it. 327 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: You could find stuff about Kanye, you know. They of 328 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: course they photoshop Trump's hair onto Kanye's head, so that's cool. 329 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: But this is like bread and butter of any time 330 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: a Western country has attacked, anytime there's a mass shooting, 331 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: it is everywhere. And I was trying to figure out, 332 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: like what happened? Where did these stories go? And I 333 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: think it must be that they just forgot about them. 334 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: I guess Jack, you know how to set yourself up 335 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: better than that. So the Toronto attack is being said 336 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: to not be terror related by the Canadian police who 337 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: are investigating it, when I think we're they calling it 338 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: not even an attack, like an accident or whatever, because 339 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: they were saying that the illness, Yeah, it was mentally ill, 340 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: I mean clearly like it was by definition he attacked people. 341 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think in our minds when we hear 342 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: the word attack, we sort of instantly link it to 343 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: some sort of terrorism or something like that. But yeah, 344 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: it seemed very At first, I think everyone's reaction was like, oh, no, 345 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: another person in a car trying to hit pedestrians, And yeah, 346 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: I think the first idea was like, oh, this was 347 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: probably a terror attack. But then when we saw the 348 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: video of how this guy was apprehended, he was clearly 349 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: sort of definitely not well and seemed like he was 350 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: trying to induce the police into like shooting him. Uh. 351 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: I was really surprised at the restraint that the Toronto 352 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: police had because I'm from America, never seen restraint from police. 353 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: He would have been lit up like a Christmas tree 354 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: if he had done that ship in anywhere south of 355 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: the border. That's not a good thing, depending on what 356 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: he looked like. Right, yes, yes, for sure they're going 357 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: to talk about the waffle house. So I managed to 358 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: arrest the naked man in a coat with a gun thing, right, 359 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: So that's the other story, the waffle house shooting, not 360 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: on Drudge nowhere to be seen, not on the front 361 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 1: of bright part anywhere. Uh Jack, So what are the 362 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: facts that would make them mood? It would seem like 363 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: the story of the week for these sort of tabloid 364 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: ish news places, uh news outlets. It's a naked guy 365 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: going in with a trench coat and killing four people 366 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: and then being disarmed by a heroic, unarmed man who 367 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: just like rushes forward and is pure John McClain. He is, like, yes, 368 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: he is John McClain, distilled down to his like purest essence. Yeah, 369 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,479 Speaker 1: perfect like late act too early act three essence, just 370 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: like this is this is who I am. Like he is. 371 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: He mistakenly thinks I would have done the same thing. Yeah, 372 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: hearing him talk, well again, but you betrayed the details. Jack. 373 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: It's because Drudge doesn't want to cover because it was 374 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: another white man with a a R fifteen and he 375 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: killed people of color. Oh that's that's not the kind 376 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: of ship he's trying to push on Drudge Report. And 377 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: the hero is also a person of color. Yeah, this dude, 378 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: and he's a fucking legit hero. This man. He even 379 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: was using his platform to push like this go fund 380 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: me pays that he had started for the families of 381 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: the victims of the shooters. At a eulogy, he was 382 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: just so adamant about saying, like I just did what 383 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: I felt I had to do, and it wasn't even 384 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: that I was thinking of other people. It was just 385 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: a reaction I had, so you know, like just being 386 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: so humble. It's really like, it's crazy to see something 387 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: like that and something like so much that like encapsulates 388 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 1: a definition of like a heroic act, broke act, and 389 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: even the response to it is not like pumping his 390 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: own dick up, being like, yeah, you know, I knew 391 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: I had to do something. Whatever. He's just like I 392 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: felt I had to do something. You can nominate a hero. 393 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: I forget what board does this, but there's a cool 394 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: like otherwise, like a reputable organization that gives sort of 395 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: hero grants at the end of every year where you 396 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 1: can nominate someone for a heroic act and there are 397 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: specific like specifics. It's the Carnegie Hero Fund. You can 398 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: actually nominate someone to be a hero as designated by 399 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 1: the fund. They have a definition of a hero. And 400 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: what I like about the waffle house dude, I should 401 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: know his name, James Shaw. Well done, James Shaw. I 402 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: bet he would agree he's not a hero by this definition, 403 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: and I love that that is such heart. The definition, 404 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: according to the Carnegie Hero Fund is a candidate for 405 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: the ward must be a civilian who voluntarily risks his 406 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: or her life to an extraordinary degree while saving or 407 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: attempting to save the life of another person. And I 408 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: love that this man has the perspective to know that 409 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: he wanted to survive, and the fact that others survived 410 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: is like a huge bonus. But he acted out of that, 411 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: or at least what I got out of what I 412 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: heard him say was it he acted to save himself 413 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: and it was no thought, just went in and did it. 414 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I moved by that perspective. I think 415 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: he's an awesome guy. He didn't need a gun. You 416 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: just need to be a good man. It's almost like 417 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: a Dunning Krueger effect of courage. It's like he's so 418 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: courageous he just assumes everybody else's Yeah. I mean obviously 419 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: I did that with anyone. It's like, yeah, yeah, like 420 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: you had no other agenda other than just fixing the situation. Obviously, 421 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: they describe it better, and I thought I could and 422 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: then just didn't. But it's like a self sacrificing act 423 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: where you know you put yourself at risk and there's 424 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: nothing to necessarily benefit you. And I heard him speak 425 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: and say that he just wanted to survive. And I 426 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: mean that motivation to put yourself I don't know you 427 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: I would want to survive to and I would be 428 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: fucking hiding, right. So what it takes to put yourself out, 429 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: you know, to act instead of to like not react, 430 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: which is probably what I would do. Take something heroic. Yeah, 431 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: that's huge, it's a big thing. When that fight or 432 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: flight came up, he said, fight fight. That takes something. 433 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if I have it. I am thankfully 434 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: I have not been tested. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Well 435 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: what's crazy is you know that the n r A 436 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: was really they had to figure out way to spend this, 437 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, because they don't want to hear about a 438 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: good guy without a gun. Right, stop amazing, Right, yeah, 439 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: let's get the audio from So the n r A 440 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: covered this heroic act on their channel n r A TV, 441 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: but then they had a quibble with his decision to 442 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: go into a waffle house unarmed. Yeah, there would have 443 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: been many people dead inside that waffle house if it 444 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: wasn't for James Shaw. And now what's amazing to me 445 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: is that critics of the n r A or quick 446 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: to use James Shaw as some kind of a strange 447 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: example as to why guns aren't needed. I saw this 448 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: flying around Twitter and social media over the weekend. First off, 449 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: politicizing this event before it's even and over. Clearly that's 450 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: the new norm for the left. But I look at 451 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: Shaw as a hero, I say thank you, I say 452 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: may God bless him. And the fact is without a gun, 453 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: his bravery is even more impressive to me. He stopped 454 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: the crime. Yes, he saved lives. Yes, But to me, 455 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: the story still proves that if anyone had a gun there, 456 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: including James Shaw, the attack would be over. There would 457 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: be no man hunt going on right now. Instead, we 458 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: have a city on lockdown. What the fuck? They keep 459 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: pushing the goddamn goalposts back every fucking time, like, well, yeah, 460 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: he saved, but what about these lockdowns. He didn't stop 461 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: the lockdown, you know what I mean? Like, it's not 462 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: it was not enough. There's no lockdown, there's not a thing. 463 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: There's nobody closing your streets, like the Waffles on the 464 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: other side of town was still open. Yes, always stays over. Yeah, 465 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: that's exactly. They don't have locks. I do don't understand that. 466 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: I've never come anywhere close to being able. Usually I 467 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: can understand what somebody's trying to tell me when we 468 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: don't agree, and that whole thing that, like everyone in 469 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: that war should have been loaded. It's like yeah. And 470 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: also it's an important detail of the story that he 471 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: disarmed the guy, He got the gun away from him 472 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: and then threw it over the counter because he didn't 473 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: want to murder somebody, because that's just not where he was. 474 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: And they're like, see, he would have killed him if 475 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: he had the chance. It's such a separation from one 476 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: of our founding principles that makes this crazy experiment so magical. 477 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: We don't just get to kill each other because we 478 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: did a no. No, you can't just shoot someone because 479 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: they're carrying a gun. We really can't do that. We 480 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: have a mechanism, we have a whole machine that we 481 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: set up to handle this. The fact that we corrupted 482 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: it with private prisons and bad shit is our fault. 483 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: But the basic idea is that you throw the gun 484 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: and you tackle the guy. That sort of test the 485 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: principle you gotta deal with. There's no amount of guns 486 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: that fixes that. I cannot imagine the scenario that plays 487 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: out in a person with that perspective's mind. What they 488 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: see happening in that waffle house. Naked guy jacket, two 489 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: people shout outside, door flies open. Your reaction is to 490 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: for a loaded weapon you came to waffle house with 491 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: and then aim precisely among a screaming throng and running 492 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: people to hit you don't. Yeah, that's crazy, but I 493 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: guess yeah, because so many of these like opinions and 494 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: they have are conclusions that they come to so divorced 495 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: from the reality of the situation that it's easy to 496 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: just say, like reflectively, yeah, well, if there was a 497 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: gun there, then there'd be no Um. Well, let's see, 498 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: so he did stop the guy, so what's the next 499 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: worst thing, Well, there there will be no man hunt. 500 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: So it's the same ridiculous perspective that let's Trump say 501 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: that he would run into that building, uh to save 502 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: people even if he wasn't. Will never have to be 503 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: in that situation, and you've never been in that situation, 504 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: and you can't deal with the reality that, no, you weren't. 505 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: I just told you I wouldn't. It's not something proud of, 506 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: is the person who tackle a shooter. I'm not maybe 507 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: one of history's biggest cowards too. So yeah, I bet 508 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: he honestly believes that, all right, we're gonna take a 509 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back, and 510 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: just real quick. We actually have late breaking news because 511 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: we're doing this a little earlier than normal. We just 512 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: had a story added to the dock by our writer 513 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: on the ground in Toronto, Mr jam McNabb. Uh. He 514 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: lives in Toronto, and he was pointing out that, uh, 515 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, even though racists on Twitter were quick to 516 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: call the attack or a terrorist or a jehadist uh 517 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: and blame the city's Muslim population. Uh. People who looked 518 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: at his Facebook post before they were taken down found 519 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: that he had lauded Elliott Roger, the California shooter from 520 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen, who raged about a number of women 521 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: turning down his advances. He also used the word in else, 522 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: meaning involuntary cell abit. Uh. He said, quote the in 523 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: cell rebellion has already begun. We will overthrow all the 524 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: chads and Stacy's Tucker Carlson just had the hardest time 525 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: understanding how the government of Canada could say there was 526 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: quote no connection to a jihadi group. So this makes 527 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: a lot more sense because I was I was thinking. 528 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: Even if there was an absence of motive, even if 529 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: it was just mental illness, they would still speculate that 530 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: he was motivated by isis or could be they would 531 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: fill that motive in. They did that with the Vegas shooter, 532 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: for instance, because we like never figured out what he 533 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: was on about, and in this case, they just like 534 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: completely disappeared the story. And I think it's because his 535 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: politics were this sort of weird sort of men's rights 536 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: kind of ship of like blame women for their own 537 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: shittiness kind of mentality, which aligns perfectly with the all 538 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: right which is crazy though too, because chads are like 539 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: the handsome all the peak alt right mail. You could be. 540 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: So even the fact that he like, he's clearly so 541 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: on the insull side, that he can't look at anybody 542 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: who has like some kind of sex life or social life, 543 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: It's yeah, I don't think it's red and blue. That's 544 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean, I think they're taking a 545 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 1: different red pill blue pill situation. It's that is a 546 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: fascinating and so sad world, broken, lonely people. There's nothing 547 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: involuntary about your celibacy. You're what's involuntary is the self examination, 548 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: any changes that you would have to make to progress 549 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: as a person, to not get fucked dude, but to 550 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: connect with other humans on a physical and emotional level. 551 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: So you are not doing work, You're just not doing 552 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: the work. You're not doing the work, you get a 553 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: sandwich made for you. If you do the work, people 554 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: make you sandwiches because they love you. Sorry, I just 555 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: speaking of connecting or failing to connect with other human beings. 556 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: We wanted to talk about and you'll find out why 557 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: that is speaking of later on in a segment, But 558 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: we wanted to talk about narcissistic personality disorder. So why 559 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: is it? Because I'm here a year and a half 560 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: ago there there was a point during the two thousand 561 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: and sixteen election where Trump was really starting to become 562 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: like a major candidate, and it was at the same 563 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: time that Kanye was having some manner of breakdown. And 564 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: we did an episode of the Crack podcast just on 565 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: narcissistic personality disorder, basically comparing Kanye and Trump and basically 566 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: saying they seemed to have very similar interior lives with 567 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: basically being purely narcissistic creatures and Miles you last night 568 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: basically came to that exact same conclusion. Yes, on your own, 569 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: even though you accused me of of copying you. Yet 570 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: as I was having a fever dream, no, I just 571 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: I just realized that there are so many parallels because 572 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, obviously, Kanye over the weekend was just tweeting 573 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: weird Ship. He said he like Canda Owe was just 574 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: he was basically clearly showing that he is in a 575 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: mindset of like that he was starting to philosophically align 576 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: with like the alt right. Not that literally he was, 577 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: but the names he was bringing up and the concepts 578 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: he was talking about were enough for the alt right 579 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: to immediately jump and be like, oh, we're claiming Kanye um. 580 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: And so that had everyone confused, and a lot of 581 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: time I was like, man, like what the fund a 582 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: is he doing? Like is a promo for his album? 583 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: Because he's got an album coming out? Does he really 584 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: believe this? And then I was like watch exactly and like, 585 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: clearly Kendrick wins a Pulitzer, So now he's live tweeting 586 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: a book. I'm like, bro, that's not how you get it, 587 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: but anyway, and then I was like this whole love 588 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: of Trump, like it's been happening for a minute, and 589 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: then I was like, wait, let's think about it. They're 590 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: both terrible business people, Like I know, Kanye lost a 591 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: lot of money with his fashion line and ship like that. 592 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: Trump as we already know about how bad his business 593 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: practices are, like his properties have been total disasters. I remember, 594 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: like when the first couple of Yeasy fashion shows, people 595 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: were like this fashion shows a fucking joke, Like we 596 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: were wearing shoes that are like way too small. People 597 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: were falling over there wearing clothes that weren't even part 598 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: of the line of fundraising. Is tweeting at Marks Kerberg 599 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: and asking him for They both don't read their their 600 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: egos are both insanely fragile. They both have their fans 601 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: thinking they're playing four D chess. They're not, you know where. 602 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: Like so I was saying with Trump, you know, we've 603 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: talked about how for people who are not wealthy, Trump 604 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: is like this goddy version of wealth that some people 605 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: do aspire to because it's like it's so like you're like, oh, 606 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: that's called money, right, there's version of a rich guy, 607 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: right and exactly, and Kanye is like a not cool 608 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,239 Speaker 1: person's version of the coolest man on Earth. Now, not 609 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: to say that every Kanye fan worships him because he's 610 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: so cool. A lot of people are Kindye fans because 611 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: of his music. There are also there's a very distinct 612 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: section of Kanye stands who dress exactly like him, where 613 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: he can do no wrong. Everything he does is a 614 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: god move. He's nine moves ahead from everyone, and again 615 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: that's because of the perception thing. So that's another very 616 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: similar thing. Uh. They were both flamed by Barack Obama. 617 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: I mean by flamed, I mean clearly Trump. We can 618 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: definitely point to Obama's words and definitely being a motivating 619 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: factor for him. But also I remember when Kanye took 620 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: the stage and did the whole like, oh, Beyonce had 621 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: the greatest album of all time thing to Taylor Swift, 622 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: Barack Obama was like he's a jackass, and I remember 623 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: that was like a big thing. And Kandie even talked 624 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: about how he was like I funk with Trump because 625 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: he's real and like I could meet with him. I 626 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: never heard from Obama. I can, I could never hear 627 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: back from Obama. So he's still very like kind of 628 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: salty about that. And they both are their masters of 629 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: medium manipulation and and getting what they need to out 630 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: of social media or just playing the paparazzi or the tabloids. 631 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: They know how to do it. And I was like, damn, 632 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: maybe we just need to start accepting the fact that 633 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: these two dudes are from the same fucking planet. Once 634 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: this happens to be black, the other happens to be white, 635 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: and one is just better at like what he does 636 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: as a musician than the other person. But aside from 637 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: everything else, they're so fucking similar that I'm like, can 638 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: I be mad at him? Because everything was there the 639 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: whole time? He's now retweeting Scott Adams, the Dilbert Guy. Yeah. 640 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: I think that this is another example of basically this 641 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: personality disorder that both all three of these men happen 642 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: to have, uh narcissism where you're like empty on the 643 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: inside and need to fill your emptiness with the adulation 644 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: of others, and and when people aren't paying attention to 645 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: you start panicking and you know, have to fill the 646 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: holing you're inside you with that is, with their attention. 647 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: And we see it, sorry with both in Trump and Kanye. 648 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: You see this, uh, the acceleration that they're trying to 649 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: fill a hole, but it's a it's not a whole. 650 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: It's like there's nothing, you can't put anything in it. 651 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: So as big as your world gets, you still feel 652 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: exactly the same way. Stay, yes, yeah, you're really hungry. 653 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: You're not. It's a horrible, horrible personality disorder to have. 654 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: You know, people who have it are way more likely 655 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: to commit suicide because you know, it's just there's no 656 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: deep happiness, there's no connection with other people. And I 657 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: just think that because of the way that our society 658 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: and you know, social media and our media landscape have evolved, 659 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: this just happens to be just accidentally, people with this 660 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: personality disorder basically have the Konami code to our society. 661 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: They just accidentally are now like perfectly built for this. 662 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: Like Trump just is perfectly built. His personality disorder makes 663 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 1: him constantly tweet and constantly like draw attention to himself 664 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: and just need to stand the headlines. Uh, Kanye is 665 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: the same way. Like the thing that made him probably 666 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: the most famous was when he did that thing with 667 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift and like very everybody in his name. Yeah, 668 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: I mean they are benefiting from the fact that you know, 669 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: all publicity is good publicity, not because they're playing four 670 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: D chess, but because they happen to have this personality disorder. 671 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 1: That is just the Konami code of our modern society. Yeah, 672 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: but it's only a code if your player then gets 673 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: to go in and destroy the entire game. Like it's 674 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: not like you beat a game, you ruin it. You're 675 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 1: not playing it anymore. Uh. And that's what makes yes, 676 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: I think, And it's amazing to watch it play out 677 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 1: in government because the whole way that that life perspective works, 678 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean, mental disorder combined with like kind of loving 679 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,919 Speaker 1: the effects of it watching a Trump storm happen, like 680 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: when that kind of thing seeps its way into government, 681 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: when you have a Trump doing that, Like the game 682 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: is important, you actually have to play it. There's a 683 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: reason we built it that way. So we're watching this 684 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: dude just like try to game the system by not 685 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: playing the game. And I'm my I'm not I make 686 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: my own rule, and it doesn't work. It's not working 687 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: from a fundamental governing level. It doesn't work. And I think, 688 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: like in the Kanye case, like I'm fashion, I'm gonna 689 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: make fashion. No a fashion shows choose it are the 690 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: right size and like a staff that has water bottles 691 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,919 Speaker 1: in the back for everybody because they're thirsty, and like, 692 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 1: you know a venue that you rented proper people pass 693 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: out on Governor's Island. Yeah, that's probably a bad idea. 694 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: It's the Yeah. So for people who aren't aware of 695 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: who Scott Adams is, he's the dude who created Dilbert 696 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: and he has become sort of the spokesperson for basically 697 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: this type of person. He was onto Trump immediately that 698 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: he was going to be a success. He was like, 699 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: he sees through the matrix basically like I do, and 700 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: so reading his analysis. So he did a video like 701 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: a live stream on Twitter where he was basically giving 702 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 1: us his analysis of why Kanye is the man and 703 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: like why he fits within this Trumpian worldview and it's 704 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: basically a purely like will to power type thing idea 705 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: of success and ethics. You're like, right, if you're affecting 706 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: reality and not being controlled by other people. Uh, But 707 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: the problem with it is that you are viewing other 708 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: people as objects and so you never make a connection 709 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: with other people. And that's a great way to go insane, 710 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: like Nietzsche went crazy. Uh, Scott Adams, who is this 711 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 1: guy who like speaks to people like he has figured 712 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: out the world and like knows how to levitate. Actually, 713 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: at a certain point, uh, like after Dilbert became hugely successful, 714 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: he stopped being able to speak to people. I mean 715 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: like he was medically unable to. Yeah, like psychologically unable to. 716 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: Like doctors examined his vocal cords. They were like, what's happening? 717 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: And it was just a mental condition, And it seems 718 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: like it's this spasm of like not being able to 719 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: connect with other people. He could speak to a crowd, 720 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: he could speak like in front of a crowd, he 721 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 1: could speak in the mirror to himself, he couldn't speak 722 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: in conversation to other people. And then like he eventually 723 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: like figured out how to get out of this trap 724 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: that he was in. But that's something I'm reading a 725 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: book right now about how human interaction and relationships are 726 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: actually a huge part of mental health. And all of 727 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: these guys seem to have this model of the world 728 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: where you can't connect with other people because that like 729 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: makes you too vulnerable and so uh And that's becoming 730 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: more and more like psychiatric theories are emerging that This 731 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: is like a big reason for depression and anxiety is 732 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: like not actually being able to connect with people. The 733 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: harder that the like personality types like that push and 734 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: the farther they go and rise. I mean, this is simplistic, 735 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: and maybe I'm just empathizing the wrong way, But the 736 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: more I see just like the saddest kid inside, Like 737 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's like there's a defining moment somewhere between 738 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,240 Speaker 1: like five and eight years old where like you needed 739 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: something that hug, that comfort, that moment, that connection. It 740 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: didn't happen, it was It's like a neural pathway or 741 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: a synapse or something that just won't ever turn correct again, 742 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: and you spend your life thirsty, uh for this need. 743 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: I think that it's nature or nurture. I think there 744 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 1: are people who are genuinely born with narcissistic personality disorder, 745 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: and I think there's also people who are formed early 746 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: that just can't it out of these traps wherein you 747 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: cannot connect with others. You know, there's bars between you 748 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: and other people. You put them there, You can take 749 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: them out, but it takes a lot of work, and 750 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: not everybody has the help and resources to do that. 751 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: But especially with Trump, Like I just see a whiny, 752 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: angry kid, like there's it's like a tantrum and a supermarket. 753 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: You're still five years old, but your body is just 754 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: turning over right. It looks weird, and all you want 755 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: is for us to pick you up and hug you. 756 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 1: But the closer we get, the more you're gonna make 757 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: it hard for us, because you want it to be 758 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: as hard as it can to like you, like you know, 759 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: it's just the like you know, no, you don't like me, Yes, 760 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: I do know. I'm gonna make it even more impossible 761 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: for you to like. No, we still like race against 762 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 1: I don't understand it. And sometimes it feels crazy cool 763 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: art and Kanye makes great albums, and then Kanye is 764 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: still and he's like and he does it like this, 765 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: and then he doesn't realize how dangerous it is that 766 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: if he's maybe doesn't understand what Candice Owns is really about, 767 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: because clearly that you know they were saying it was 768 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: based off this video where she was speaking at U 769 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: c l A, just talking about like black people have 770 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,879 Speaker 1: a mentality of victimization, where some people are dead set 771 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: on victimizing themselves by looking at the past and not 772 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: looking towards the future or whatever. And Kanye, I think 773 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: something resonated with that with him, where I think he 774 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: just saw it as like is it a victor mentality 775 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: or victim mentality and he's like, that's why I'm trying 776 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: to break the code or whatever, but not realizing people 777 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 1: who are talking about the past. As people of color, 778 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: we don't bring up the past because we're whining about it, 779 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: like we're not trying to put in the work, or 780 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 1: we like that there's no progress. We have to acknowledge 781 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: that the system is set up this way. So we 782 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: have to acknowledge the imbalance because unfortunately, white people are 783 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: the only people that can balance the scale of equality 784 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: in this country because black people are not at the 785 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: levers to actually right the ship. So when we bring 786 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: this stuff up, like how there's income inequality or the 787 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: incarceration rates are completely lopsided, it's not because we're like 788 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: when when when it's like we need y'all to help 789 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 1: us out do something, is not a victim thing. If 790 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: you want us to pull ourselves up by the bootstratch, 791 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: you have to acknowledge that we might not even playing 792 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: the game at a level playing field from the beginning 793 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: for Kanye to do this, He's giving all these people 794 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: on the alt right. They're saying like, because they love 795 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: a person of color that will just cross paths with 796 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: them that they can use to be like, see this 797 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: is our attack dog now against this way of thinking 798 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: or this kind of discourse and be like, well, Kanye thinks, yeah, 799 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 1: you gotta come out of this victim mentality and the 800 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: irony is I am a white woman the most victimy 801 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: culture of all, Like see you want to victor or 802 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: like victim comes down to like how you respond when 803 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: someone gets your Starbucks order wrong, like you said it 804 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: that recognizing historical inequities is so different from taking on 805 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 1: the personality of being the eternal victim. And if it 806 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: was the same, like Donald Trump thinks he's in a 807 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: witch hunt, Are you sucking, crazier leader of the free world, 808 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: You just still have to be the victim. You have 809 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: to be like Kanye is like writing a book on Twitter, 810 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: but someone else achieves something. He's in this full panic. 811 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: It's just a weird victor or victim is yours that's 812 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: in your noggain, that doesn't that can be informed by 813 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: your historical circumstances. I'm sure, but it has nothing to 814 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: do with recognizing history in your place and it is 815 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: up to you. Kanye stealing an award from some other 816 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,720 Speaker 1: lady because he thinks some other ladies should have won it, Like, honey, 817 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 1: you have problems. Was feeling like a victim even when 818 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: things aren't happening to you, And maybe that's Kindie realizing this, 819 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: and he's trying to switch that. He's like, man, maybe 820 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: I am self victimized on the time. Maybe I need 821 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: to switch my perspective. And I don't know, like you know, 822 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: many people are trying to rationalize. Well, he doesn't get 823 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: what he's actually saying, but he's playing I don't know. 824 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: I think really we might have to acknowledge the fact 825 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: that he's just an ignorant person. And we've had this 826 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: problem with our celebrity worship in this country that we 827 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: just think because you're celebrity, there's no way you could 828 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: be ignorant or completely fucked up. Why would you be celebrity? 829 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: You know what I mean that? Why would I worship you? Yeah, 830 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: you know you're a celebrity, because clearly celebrities only get 831 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: there because like they're I don't know if people think 832 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: like process though, where it's like, well, the people who 833 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: are celebrities that have millions of followers, they're not problematic, 834 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: so you can take whatever they say as gospel. Isn't 835 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: that kind of a crazy thing about Trump though? When 836 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: we I mean, the joke is like, well, I got 837 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: to anybody can be president. Like I think we do 838 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: move through the world assuming they're gatekeepers, and I think 839 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 1: that it takes part of a there's something nice about 840 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: having a screw loose. That's like I'm just walking right 841 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: through this gate, and you know, the rest of us 842 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 1: in the flox sheep are standing around like could you 843 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: just walk through the gate? Do you see him just 844 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,919 Speaker 1: walk through? You? Like, walk through the gate? There wasn't 845 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: somebody by the gate. You have to have like that 846 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,280 Speaker 1: lunatic confidence to just do it. Walk by. It helps 847 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: you don't have to Well, this is the same reason 848 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 1: why the Vikings were so effective when they stepped on 849 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: the scene in Europe, because they would pull up to 850 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: churches and there'll be monks there and they have all 851 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: this gold inside, and the Vikings are like, okay, taken that, yeah, 852 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: where other people like, well no, that's the church, we 853 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't dare still from the church. The Vike is like, 854 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what the churches because I see a 855 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,439 Speaker 1: bunch of weak as monks and a ton of gold. 856 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: I got just sucking act. Pull up and I'm gonna 857 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 1: take your ship. And that's the kind of the same 858 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: thing of like, these people are coming into a world 859 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 1: where the rules they don't even they don't even see 860 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: the structure, and they're like, nope, I want that. Oh 861 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: there's rules and not that I know of. Yeah, And 862 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: it's kind of this perfect storm where their success is 863 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: fed by this problem they have. But the more success 864 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: they get, the less likely they are to admit that 865 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: they have the problem and that their success is, you know, 866 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: based on basically being lucky enough to have the right 867 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: personality defect for the time in which they were born 868 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: and having it be profitable to others instead of costly 869 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: to others, because the reality is, if people weren't profiting, 870 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,280 Speaker 1: if Mike Cohne didn't need to wash Ukrainian mob money, 871 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: Donald Trump would be bankrupt and living in a hotel 872 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 1: not like the basement of his old hotel. Like, if 873 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: you know people around you can benefit from this mania like, 874 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,760 Speaker 1: you know, it depends on where the wind blows, because 875 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: otherwise you're like, you don't have any help or care 876 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 1: and you're a naked in cell shooting up a waffle house. 877 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: I see a straight line between the two, and that 878 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: line is whether or not you're profitable or costly. Right, 879 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be 880 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: right back, and we're back. Uh. I never left, But 881 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: we wanted to continue with Trump's mental illness because there 882 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: was an article in the Washington Posts in the past 883 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: week from the former reporter who wrote the Forbes four 884 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: hundred list back in the early eighties who first put 885 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: Trump on the list of the four dred richest people 886 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: in America. And the first time that he put Trump 887 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: on the list was because he got a call from 888 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 1: a Trump employee named John Barron. Uh we're gonna listen 889 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: to audio from that call. Uh so, yeah, I mean 890 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 1: listened to our mentally whatever it needs to be. Something 891 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: whenever you hear there's a call from anyone named John 892 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:26,359 Speaker 1: is always drub I love John Barron because John rich 893 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: guy would have been when he talked about when you 894 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 1: talked about Marla Maples. What was it when he's talking 895 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: to a tabloid. He is a name John something too. 896 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: He pretended to be Marlo Mabels. He was like, hey, Marlo, Yeah, 897 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 1: good at sex. And then he was like, yes, You're 898 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: the best I've ever had and I'm not impotent. The 899 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 1: New York Post knew that that would sell the ship 900 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,280 Speaker 1: out of a newspaper printed it. But anyways, so here 901 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: is audio of the call that got Donald Trump to 902 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 1: be known as a rich person. This is two. This 903 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 1: is when people started to think that he was rich. Well, 904 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: let me let me tell you that the deal is 905 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 1: just to understand the Trump But first of all, most 906 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 1: of the assets have been consolidated to Mr Trump, you know, 907 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 1: because you have down Fred Trump and I'd like to 908 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 1: talk to you after record if I can just to 909 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,839 Speaker 1: make your thing easier. Yeah, that's all right, But I 910 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: think you can really use Donald Trump now and you 911 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 1: can just consolidate. I think last year somebody showed me 912 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: the auticle and I think you had two hundred and 913 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: two hundred and really it's been pretty well consolidated now 914 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: for the most part. As I also think somebody had 915 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,439 Speaker 1: mentioned that you had asked about that, or somebody had 916 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 1: and it's been pretty well consolidated. Okay, so that's one 917 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 1: point that you can does does Sessions make many nation decisions? 918 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's he's the he's the chairman, Donald's the president, 919 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: and and Fred Trump is active. He said, he's an 920 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 1: excellent guy. And you know how they're very close to 921 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,360 Speaker 1: the relationship and the two is, as you know, very close, 922 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: as you've heard or now or perhaps you don't know, 923 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 1: but uh, they're they're business too. So he's basically saying 924 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,799 Speaker 1: they've consolidated all the power under Donald and you know 925 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 1: that he basically owns the company at this point, which 926 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 1: was not true. Uh. He actually at that time was 927 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 1: worth roughly five million dollars, but they included him on 928 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,799 Speaker 1: the list at one million dollars. Uh, because it's consolidated, right, 929 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: because it's all consolidated. And apparently the rule for convincing 930 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,240 Speaker 1: a Forbes reporter of something is just to say it's 931 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 1: been consolidated, like five times. Also, that dude fucked up 932 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 1: by putting him on the list. If he was like, 933 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: well I got this call, I mean, so then to 934 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: put him on here. So it's also like we were 935 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: talking about how sad Trump is when you really look 936 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 1: at him from just like a psychological perspective. This is 937 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 1: a guy who's on the phone with someone pretending to 938 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 1: be someone else, talking about how close his dad is 939 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,720 Speaker 1: to him and how much his dad likes him. Weren't 940 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 1: they not close? I think he they were okay, but 941 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: it's just a weird. I think his dad was a 942 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: real hardass. Just to underline that, he's like, I mean, 943 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: they're so close. I mean, you'd think it was like 944 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: a like a fifties comedy they go on vacation together. Yeah, 945 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,839 Speaker 1: it's like leave it to beaver. Can you imagine like 946 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,720 Speaker 1: you'd have to be an empty show to be able 947 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: to pick up that phone pretending Miles calling you? So 948 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 1: I gotta listen, hot guest for your pot. Look, really 949 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: know what you guys are doing day. I really like 950 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 1: the moves you're making. I want to recommend this is 951 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 1: not me. This is definitely like you are not talking 952 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 1: to Caitlyn gil That is my I am a representative. 953 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 1: My name is My name is Cary Bradd. My name 954 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 1: is Cala. Thank you for taking my listen. I am 955 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 1: a fabulous client. She is just tremendous. She's huge, and 956 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,800 Speaker 1: I mean literally she has six ft one to twenty. 957 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: She's bringing it down. Don't worry about the numbers, but 958 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: those are consolidated numbers. Now listen, what I need you 959 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: to know is that Caitlin is literally the funniest person alive. 960 00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 1: You name a comedian, Okay, they're probably better and more famous. Look, look, look. 961 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 1: What you don't know yet is you don't have Caitlin 962 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 1: on the list. You don't have her own up. I 963 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 1: am definitely not Caitlin. I am the funniest person in 964 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 1: the world. It's just that's when I go, yo, Jack, 965 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 1: Caitlin just called no, no, no, no, no, you hear 966 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 1: like from a dead zone. No it's not I'm not. 967 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 1: Your podcast listeners are so engaged. Come on, shout out 968 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 1: to the night Gang. It's just the saddest Yeah alright, yeah, 969 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 1: to take yourself there, because it does remind you. Like you, 970 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: we all grew up with kids in school who would 971 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 1: just lie, yeah, oh a hundred percent about the weirdest 972 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: I'd been stuff my family had, sex, things I had 973 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,919 Speaker 1: definitely not even heard of before. Like I absolutely lied 974 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 1: to make a work more interesting than my own. And 975 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 1: then I realized that I make my world didn't right, 976 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 1: and then you grow. But then you start seeing some 977 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 1: of those kids don't get past, and then they still 978 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,360 Speaker 1: do and you're like, oh shit, like you really telling 979 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 1: people you're a fashion designer, like like I have friends 980 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:07,959 Speaker 1: who are still on. Then I'm like, bro, you're wearing 981 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 1: a woman's jacket and you'll be like, no, this is 982 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 1: like a new style like fashion, well at the good Will? 983 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: Yeah okay, And then I was just like but then 984 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 1: you start realizing you're like, man, like, I guess it 985 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: was different, Like you know, as a kid, you say 986 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 1: ship like you say to make your own life interesting 987 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 1: to yourself or for your perception of you to other people. 988 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 1: But then after a while you realize, oh, I have 989 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: more control over this. I can take agency in my 990 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 1: life whatever. And then you see the other people who 991 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 1: have just relied on that for so long that they 992 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 1: really have just completely, you know, diluted themselves into being 993 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,319 Speaker 1: a place like that. But you just have to have 994 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 1: such an empty, sucking wound where a soul would be 995 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,360 Speaker 1: to just be that desperate. That's something in there the 996 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 1: Forbes four list, Like that's he needed it, Like it 997 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: was like he was holding his breath and until he 998 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 1: got on the Forbes four hundred list. He couldn't take 999 00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 1: another breath, Like it was just desperation. Five million dollars earth, Like, 1000 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: he's just sad he doesn't have a hundred million dollars. 1001 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,280 Speaker 1: But I can't imagine that getting a hundred million dollars 1002 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: is going to satisfy that person. It just is. It's said, 1003 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to find some kind of compassion because this 1004 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 1: is obviously a sad person. Right. Uh, he's still responsible 1005 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 1: for his actions now at what he does about that. 1006 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 1: He used that hundred million dollar estimation of his wealth, 1007 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: which was a lied to then start securing loans from 1008 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: other people, because he was like, look at it. Look 1009 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,359 Speaker 1: for that. They got me mad a hundred millions. Can 1010 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 1: you walk into a bank and just slap a Forbes 1011 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,440 Speaker 1: on a desk and be like this is better than 1012 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 1: any formal record. Apparently, when he was trying to get 1013 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: one of his casinos, Nick Stump superducers reminding us that yes, 1014 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 1: there is a scene where they're talking about how they're 1015 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 1: worried about how he's going to secure approval from the 1016 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: Gambling Commission from his casinos, are like, well, are you 1017 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,799 Speaker 1: gonna get funding? He was just like I'm on the 1018 00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 1: Forbes list. Don't worry about I'm on the I can 1019 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 1: get that. And that perception wasn't enough to just be like, oh, okay, right, 1020 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,399 Speaker 1: And then he managed to bankrupt a bunch of casinos, 1021 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 1: which is so hard because that is just that is 1022 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 1: a business where people walk in and give you their 1023 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 1: money and walk out. But he managed to bankrupt them 1024 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,239 Speaker 1: because he didn't know how to actually handle money. He 1025 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 1: just had a really bad personality disorder that caused him to, 1026 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, constantly just build himself up to other people. 1027 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 1: His mouth literally writes checks that his ask like he 1028 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 1: really that is how he works. It's a pyramid skain. Yeah, 1029 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,959 Speaker 1: but it's like it's not working and it is working 1030 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 1: at the same time. Everything is a lie and he 1031 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 1: lives in the stupid white house. I don't know what 1032 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 1: to do. Like it's fascinating. Yeah, we're totally. It's been 1033 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 1: such a pleasure having you as always. Uh, where can 1034 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 1: people find you? Oh, they can find me a robot. 1035 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:57,359 Speaker 1: Caitlin on Twitter at Caitlin kill Comedy dot com and 1036 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: slowly losing my mind on the street from Los Angeles. 1037 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 1: Amazing prescription. I guess you know, I do have some 1038 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,919 Speaker 1: hot sunnies. Miles where can people find you and you're 1039 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 1: hot sunnies? You can find me and my hot non 1040 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 1: prescription sunnies at Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Great. 1041 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,240 Speaker 1: You can find me at Jack Underscore O'Brien on Twitter. 1042 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 1: You can find us at daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, where 1043 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 1: at the Daily ze Guist on Instagram. We have Facebook 1044 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 1: fan page and a website dailies I get dot com 1045 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 1: where we post our episodes and are put nowe. We 1046 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 1: look off to the information in two day's episode as 1047 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,360 Speaker 1: well as the song that we ride out on miles 1048 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 1: What are we riding out on? Two days? So this 1049 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 1: is crazy. I was talking about this band called the 1050 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 1: Lead Sisters or this Nigerian there these two twin sisters 1051 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,399 Speaker 1: that were making music in like the sixties to eighties. Uh, 1052 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,359 Speaker 1: And someone on Twitter is like, yo, play this track. 1053 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 1: So I was actually going to do that today, but 1054 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 1: a different song, not the one that I'm in on 1055 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 1: Twitter hit me up about Sorry, I don't know your 1056 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 1: handle off the top of my head. But this uh 1057 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,240 Speaker 1: song is by the Lead Sisters and it is called 1058 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 1: Life's Gone Down Low and they just have this like 1059 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,279 Speaker 1: low fi like post I love afro funk disco thing 1060 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 1: going on. It's just it's bibby and they're like twins 1061 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: and they're dope, like check out all their music. These 1062 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 1: are the the Jado Sisters from Nigeria. We're gonna write 1063 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it 1064 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 1: is a daily podcast to talk to you guys. But 1065 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: do you know, baby, lives gone I know, lives gone down. Yeah, 1066 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:43,720 Speaker 1: life gone baby. I'm gonna listen to me. I don't 1067 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:48,279 Speaker 1: don't welcome to give a day and then it will 1068 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:55,880 Speaker 1: be some fundastancing. Lives gone down. Yeah, lives gone down. Yeah, 1069 00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 1: lives gone down, down, down down down. But it's not 1070 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 1: too late for me and you. If we harry, life's 1071 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:17,840 Speaker 1: gone down. Yeah, lies gone down the Airlies gone down, down, down, 1072 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: down down. So people get together the only way to 1073 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:33,359 Speaker 1: be freak. Yeah, life's gonna get look a little bit 1074 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 1: of one. I said, stop a look, oh yeah he's 1075 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:44,280 Speaker 1: heading for really here about life gone down? Yeah, lives 1076 00:56:44,520 --> 00:58:00,120 Speaker 1: gone down. Yeahlie gone down down, down down down. Do 1077 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 1: you know, super maybe eyes gone down? Look, life's gone down. 1078 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 1: I don't wiles how so unloaded? Eyes gone down? Look? 1079 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 1: He eyes gone down? Maybe I've gonna listen to me. 1080 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, what you do maybe and a 1081 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 1: little bit of understanding. Life's gone down look, Yeah, life 1082 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 1: gone down. Yeah, life gone down, down, down, down down. 1083 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 1: But it's not too late for me and you. If 1084 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 1: we hurry. Life's gone down, love their life's gone down. Yeah, 1085 00:58:50,000 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 1: lives gone down, down, down, down down. So people get together. Ah, 1086 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 1: the only way to the Yeah, life's gonna get to 1087 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 1: a standing stop a look. Yeah, money's said it for 1088 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:18,800 Speaker 1: the new the ever Lives gone Dona loa the yeahline 1089 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 1: gone down, Birlines gone down, down down down, don lives 1090 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 1: gone don look. Yeah, lies gone down, Plies gone down, Yeah, 1091 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 1: lies gone down. Up the air, lies gone down, lop 1092 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:48,720 Speaker 1: peline gone down. Look, pline gone down. Look. Peas gone