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Speaker 1: Hell. No, welcome to the Naughty Shaw. I'm your house

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Speaker 1: to Rob Shooter, and it is Wednesday, which means our

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Speaker 1: dear friend Donny Meacham joins us. Hey, Tony, are you there?

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Speaker 2: Hello? Hello?

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Speaker 3: We got an extra hello, folks. Don't every time extra hello?

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Speaker 1: It depends what mood I'm in. And I'm in a

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Speaker 1: good mood today because finally my cold has lifted, not

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Speaker 1: totally gone, but lifted. I was sick for four days. Donny,

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Speaker 1: thank you for your calls and flowers and chocolates, none

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Speaker 1: of which arrived.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean because there's God must be a storm.

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Speaker 3: That's what it was.

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Speaker 1: That's what it was. That's right. He's a monster. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you for the thought, Tony monster. Okay, let's jump

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Speaker 1: into the sh My time is it?

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Speaker 3: My friends?

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Speaker 1: It is tea time Big story. At the top of

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Speaker 1: the show, Kim Kardashian is pretty much a single mom

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Speaker 1: to her four kids, as Kanye West is not around

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Speaker 1: actually probably simpler with him gone. I think it would

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Speaker 1: being kind. He's definitely had his mental health challenges, so

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Speaker 1: let's totally tread carefully on this one. It's easy to

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Speaker 1: Saint Chicago, and Psalm and according to People magazine, so

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Speaker 1: you know, it's the real deal that People magazine does

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Speaker 3: Yes, it looks like I said, I get it.

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Speaker 2: Trusted me. I was raised by a single bomb. I

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Speaker 3: You know, mom is and growing up. But I mean,

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Speaker 2: Thousand dollars a year and had three kids with a

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Speaker 2: just I get the story to her, I get the sentiment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, doesn't mean it doesn't mean it's a little sad.

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Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right about that, Donny, which brings

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Speaker 1: Hey Donny Live, what are you working on there?

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Speaker 2: I will say something real quick that I that my

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Speaker 2: And I'm know for a fact Kim Kardashian does stuff

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Speaker 2: speaking of a mom who loves her kids, this no doubt.

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Speaker 1: And they fairly love together on that movie. They never

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Speaker 1: people think forty nine is old. I don't, but some

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