1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another Box Sexton Show episode special one, 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: because we have with us John Cardillo, formerly of the 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: NYPD conservative commentator Man about Town and if you read 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: the Daily Beast unlicensed International arms Dealer, which is still 5 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: the coolest thing that any of my friends have been 6 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: called in print up to this point. John, I just 7 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: want to say it's it's an honor, and not just 8 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: because apparently you're going to be playing the Nicholas Cage 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: role and Lord of War two. Yeah, I thought it was. 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: I wish it was true. It's such a cool description. 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: Unfortunately it's your date. You know, it's bogus. I'm not 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: as cool as that. I wish I was. Yeah, you 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: just got sometimes you just got lean in yours roll. 14 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: It'd be like, oh, apparently you know I can I 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: can I get you a whole box of T ninety tanks? 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: Maybe you know, can either firm or deny you know 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: how you know how we do it? John? Yeah, I 18 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: mean you can't say I can't. I don't know. So 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: I want to start with this one. Um, you're a guy, 20 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: you voted for Trump twice. You were, if anything, somebody 21 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: who uh in your in your very John Cardillo. Way, 22 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: we're on Twitter throwing punches in favor of Trump with 23 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: all of your might for all four years of his presidency, 24 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: just in case. And John's Twitter is spicy, not necessarily, 25 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: not necessarily for the for the workplace, but his his 26 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: Twitter family friendly, not necessarily family friendly Twitter. But but 27 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: he he calls it like he sees it. Um. Trump 28 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: has had a rough few months. He's running, He's had 29 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: a tough few months. I think in the messaging as 30 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: I speak to you, he's just done this trip out 31 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: to East Palastine. Yeah, is is he getting more on track? 32 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: What is your assessment as a as a true blue 33 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: Trump supporter of the past and somebody who wants the 34 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: best for Trump and the GOP. Now, how's he doing? Well? Look, 35 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, Buck, I was a vehement to all these 36 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: our vehement, a vehement Trump supporter. I mean, like you say, 37 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: you know, trading punches. It happened to you, happened to 38 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: many of us. We lost friends over this, We lost 39 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: business associates in the media who are a bit more moderate, 40 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: maybe moving center left even center right people at the time, 41 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: where a lot of them were never Trumpers, right, if 42 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: you remember that they had their conservative purity tests, and 43 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: we lost relationships, some permanently, some for many years. And 44 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: unfortunately those are healed. But what wound up? And I 45 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: don't want to say turning me off to returning me 46 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: against Trump, because I think he did incredible things for 47 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: the United States. Look, let me say that the good first. 48 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 1: I think Donald Trump is one of the most patriotic 49 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: people ever to hold the office. I think he truly 50 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: loves America. He gained great success in America, and the 51 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: trip to East Palestine was I thought exceptional. I thought 52 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: it's exactly what those people needed. I mean, could you 53 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: imagine your water supply having iridescent looked like oil slicks 54 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: on top of it. You don't know if your children 55 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: are gonna come down with terminal diseases. And the sitting 56 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: president of the United States, the incapacitated vegetable in chief, 57 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: is over there in Ukraine. Worried more about Ukraine than 58 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: your kids in Ohio. So Trump's trip I thought was 59 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: a win. It was incredibly heartfelt. He know a few 60 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: people that have ever sat in the Oval office have 61 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: emotionally connected with the American people like Donald Trump. I mean, 62 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: I'll get flamed by the right for saying this, But 63 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: I think to his base Barack Obama did, Ronald Reagan 64 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: did in many respects, but Trump really had an emotional connection. 65 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: That's all the good. I don't want to see him 66 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: as president again. I don't want to see him as 67 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: the nominee because I don't think he can win. I 68 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: don't believe mathematically he has a path to seventy. I 69 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: traveled the country quite a bit. I think he's lost independence, 70 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: non party affiliated suburban women. I wish he would just 71 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: stay on the outside as a kinmaker. My number one that, 72 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: my number one reason for moving off Trump is that 73 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: as good as he was on so many things, his 74 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: personnel acumen was abysmal. And as far as I'm concerned, 75 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: whether it be business or politics, personnel, his policy, and 76 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: his personnel decisions hiring Christopher Ray, abdicating his presidency afterwardly 77 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: only half a term. To Fauci, That's why he's a 78 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: one term was a one term president. Is a one 79 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: term president. Christopher Ray. Sure, but I mean I'm a 80 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: Rosa Scaramucci. You know, Michael Cohen, Right, I'm pulled in 81 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: two of the big names out. But exactly you and 82 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: I could do an entire one hour on those names 83 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: and what the problems were exactly. I have never seen 84 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: a white house before where so many people begged their 85 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: way in and then cashed in all after they left 86 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: or on their way out, by turning on the person 87 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: who gave them that big break, that role that quite honestly, 88 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: in many cases those people but through no objective measure, 89 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: could be considered to have earned through professional ability or 90 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: anything else. It was. It was amazing as a as 91 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: the circumstance played out so many times through the Trump ammunition. 92 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: You notice he doesn't I haven't heard him say I 93 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: hired the best people anymore. That that's not something I've heard, 94 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: It's not something i've heard in a long time, because 95 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: I think that that's that's become a bit of a weakness. 96 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: And even among his base right now, we're talking within 97 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: the family, which I think is you know, forget about 98 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: the left and everything else. I just mean even people 99 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: who are on the right. Who I mean, I was 100 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: a two time Trump voter. I bore the hatred of 101 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: CNN when I was still a contributor there for being 102 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: a Trump supporter there basically got benched after a while 103 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: because I was just like, yeah, of course Trump, what's 104 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: wrong with you lunatics? But anyway, um, how is the 105 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: campaign being run? Like? Who's actually you actually understand it 106 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: and know the people who are moving the machinery? Who 107 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: is the Trump campaign other than Trump himself as far 108 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: as we know right now. While Susie Wiles, who is 109 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: this campaign manager last time around, she's his current chief 110 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: of staff, She's still very much in a position of 111 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: major influence, if not the most influential outside of family members. 112 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: Billie bars Epstein is on the campaign as well. Those 113 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: are the big names that are really calling the shots. 114 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: I think news item that Jason Miller, who was one 115 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: of his commons people in sixteen, he's back over there. 116 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of replication from the sixteen campaign 117 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: in the twenty campaign. But I think one of his 118 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: biggest problems is his messaging. He's still using the twenty 119 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: sixteen playbook, and what worked in twenty sixteen is not 120 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: going to work in twenty twenty four. It's not going 121 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: to work in a post lockdown, post COVID society because 122 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: Trump is out there still saying the vaccines were a 123 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: great idea. I saved one hundred million lives. Now, where 124 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: were you stand on the vaccine. I've been very vocally 125 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 1: anti that vaccine. His base is viciously anti that vaccine, 126 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: and he seems to be a bit tone deaf to them, 127 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: and so I think from a campaign standpoint, it seems 128 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: to be in a bit of disarray. You know, one 129 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: of the other reasons is really no fault to Trump's. 130 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: But you know this, we talked to a lot of 131 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: the same people offline. The DOJ made life such hell 132 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: for everyone around Trump that it's very difficult for him 133 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: to hire top tier people. It's even difficult for him 134 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: at this point point to hire top tier attorneys because 135 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: the big white chow law firms won't bring them in. 136 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: They won't offer them those very lucrative partnerships if they 137 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: have Trump on their resume. The same for the consulting 138 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: firms and the lobbying firms. So he's having a real 139 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: hard time I think getting that top talent for the 140 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: infrastructure you need to run the successful campaign he ran 141 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: in sixteen. But most importantly, if I have to point 142 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: to one person that I think was his most recent 143 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: horrible personnel decision, and he'll lead to not just problems 144 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: for him and for the Republican Party. It's ron Romney McDaniel, 145 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: the g NC, the RNC chairwoman. This is a woman 146 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: that Trump found him sixteen. He wholeheartedly endorsed her in 147 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: twenty and unfortunately this time around, when it was between 148 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: her and his own lawyer, harn Meet Dylan, was far 149 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: more conservative, far more hardcore. Trump pet Susie Wiles and 150 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: others out there and it became very public whipping votes 151 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: to keep Rona McDaniel in power. The same woman that 152 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: did nothing. It did nothing to vote integrity. Give me 153 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: the why Trump support Rona McDaniel, because what I'm told 154 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: from people close to him is she gave him whatever 155 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: he wanted. She didn't use the money she raised to 156 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: go fight for election integrity, or to beat back the attacks, 157 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: or to hire lawyers to help him with DJ But 158 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: she kissed his ass quite frankly, a crude way to 159 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: say it, but it's true. She tells him he's the 160 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: greatest thing since sliced bread. He loves that and those 161 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: little things he needs the endorsement of this candidate or 162 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: money to this candidate. She would do for him when 163 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: he asked, so he wasn't asking for the big stuff. 164 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: He didn't know to tell her put lawyers on the 165 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: field six months before election day to get in front 166 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: of a voter integrity issues or let's ballot harvest where legal? Rona, 167 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: why aren't you spending the money for armies of volunteers 168 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: to ballot harvest? So the stuff he was asking for, 169 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: she was able to give him. 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We were just talking Ron 203 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: McDaniel Romney. I wanted to start with with Kevin McCarthy 204 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: because there was obviously that simultaneous fight over R and 205 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: C chair and speaker's chair, right, those were two things 206 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: that you know, got the conservative bass's attention for a 207 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: few weeks. Kevin McCarthy looks like he's come out swinging 208 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: and listen to the folks. To me, is that your 209 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: sense of it is that where he's going? Yeah, it 210 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: really is. You know, a few people were more brutal 211 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: to Kevin than I was. And I had some people 212 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: even close to him reach out to me and say, hey, 213 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: you're you're kind of off based on this, and I said, well, 214 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm not. I look at actions, not words. And they said, 215 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: he's getting it. He's listening, he's getting it, and he's 216 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: listening to the right advisors. He actually understood the personnel, 217 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 1: his policy problems. He put the right people around him. 218 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: He started listening people like Marjorie Taylor Green and some 219 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: other behind the scenes folks who are very conservative people 220 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: are aligned with you and I ideologically and some of 221 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: our friends. And I've been really impressed by what I've 222 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: been seeing from Kevin McCarthy, it has exceeded every expectations 223 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: that I've been very publicly complimentary of him and supportive 224 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: of them for doing that. And you know, Buck, I'm 225 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: a pragmatist, right and I think you are, and I 226 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: think a lot of people we know you know, full disclosure, 227 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: we're good personal friends as well. We have a lot 228 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: of mutual friends, and we're all people who work in 229 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: media politics to a very large degree. But we're also pragmatist. 230 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: If I can get a politician, it's going to give 231 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: me eighty percent of what a seventy percent of what 232 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: I want, But eighty percent is pretty good. I'm gonna 233 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: be okay because I know there's no one hundred percent 234 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: right even NASA doesn't have zero tolerance, zero failure. And 235 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: so I'm looking at Kevin McCarthy right now and out 236 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: of the gate. This guy's been given me eighty five 237 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: ninety percent of what I want. I'll take that all 238 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: day long. And if he continues down that road, he's 239 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: going to continue to have my support. And I think 240 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: a big, big amount of credit goes to guys like 241 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: Chip Roy in the Freedom Caucus who held his feet 242 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: to the fire to make certain deals. They did a 243 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: great job. McCarthy's honoring those by the way, Chip Roy, 244 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: I want to single him out because I was told 245 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: by people close to that process he is the only 246 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: member who asked for nothing for himself. And when he 247 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: was asked do you want the big office? Do you 248 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: want the leadership? He said doing this for America. I'll paraphrase, 249 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: but I'm doing it for America. This isn't about me. 250 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: I want nothing for myself, and I think people need 251 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: to know that that deserves nothing, nothing but praise. But 252 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: like I said, I'll continue to support McCarthy if he 253 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: continues to go down this road. Yeah, I've been seeing 254 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: McCarthy do things that looks like a the wake up call, 255 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: if you will, has woken him up. It feels like 256 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: he's actually he's actually gotten the messages at some level 257 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: of what his role should be given where the GOP 258 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: is right now and the fights the fights ahead. So 259 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: you and I are Florida residents. Rohn de Santists is 260 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: our governor. Rohn de Santists just won a massive landslide 261 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: victory for a re election for a governor and everyone now, 262 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: I think fully assuming that he will announce for president? 263 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: How do you assess his strengths and weaknesses? Look as 264 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: a governor, I'll just say it. I think I can 265 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: speak for both of us. He's an A plus governor. 266 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's the best governor, the best 267 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: governor in the country. You know, I don't think anybody 268 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: who has been through the De Santists transformation of Florida 269 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: and you know, is saying really disagrees with that. But president, 270 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: you know, the presidency is different. Obviously running for national 271 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: office is different. So how do you assess strengths and 272 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: weaknesses of Ronda Santists? Great governor, but assuming he's a 273 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: presidential candidate, how does it line up? Well, I think 274 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: one of the things that I'll go a little one 275 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: negative first, I think De Santist definitely is going to 276 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: need to hone his debate skills a bit. Nan he's 277 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: aware of that. I think he was. He was good 278 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: against Charlie Crisp. But I think in a presidential debate 279 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: with it's gonna be a very big field. I think 280 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna probably see a repeat of twenty sixteen, you know, 281 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: maybe fifth sixteen seventeen primary candidates. Many of these people 282 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: are professional campaigners. They don't really win. They campaign and 283 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: they debate and they're very good at it. The Santis 284 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: a duer. There's a doer. This is a guy. I 285 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: said this said the other day on Twitter. I've been 286 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: saying it. The contrast with him in Trump is Trump 287 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: gets up to the podium and tells you what I'm 288 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: gonna do, what he's gonna do. I'll do this, I'm 289 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: gonna do that, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that. 290 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: The Santis gets up to the podium, holds up something 291 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: he signed and said, I just did this this morning 292 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: or yesterday. And so he's a doer. So I think 293 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: the one place he could tighten up is the debate skills, 294 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: which is very doable and that's something you can practice. 295 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: But in terms of performance, I mean wow. And people 296 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: sit there and accuse me night and day on Twitter 297 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: of being paid. And I want to say it here 298 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: by the Santis, I have never and would never take 299 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: a penny from Ronda Santis any of his official state entities, 300 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: campaign entities, or affiliated entities, pacts, et cetera. I don't 301 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: make a dime a penny from them. My support for 302 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: him is organic because of what you said. I live 303 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: in Florida. My family is still in New York. I 304 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: just see how fortunate we are. I mean, Buck, look 305 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: at the two of us, where ten we're relaxed. I'm 306 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: in my mid eighties, you're in your late seventies, and 307 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: we look like kids. Because we're Florida residents. We look amazing. 308 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: That's a good points aside. It's a great place to live, 309 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: but it's a great place to do business. We have 310 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: things here like Enterprise Florida, which is a really a 311 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: Florida's Department of Commerce, which offers big incentives for manufacturing 312 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: blue collar jobs to come down to Florida. Things you 313 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: don't even hear about because the programs are so successful. 314 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: The migration here is becoming so rapid and such a 315 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: critical mask that the state of Florida doesn't even need 316 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: to market these things. And that's a testament to the 317 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: success of the guy in the Governor's mansion in Tallahassee. 318 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: I mean, every day it just seems like there's a 319 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: new win. Right, we're finding out we're gonna get constitutional 320 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: carry was the new one today. It advanced in the Senate. 321 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: It's like every day the agenda is winning a little 322 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: bit more, you know. Or was that MSNBC host who 323 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: said the problem that Rohn de Santis is going to 324 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: run up against is that people think that Florida is 325 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: just meth and alligators. I don't think the eight hundred 326 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: thousand was the number that I saw most recently. People 327 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: who have moved to the state of Florida since the 328 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: pandemic think that it's just alligators and meth. Although there 329 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: was that terrible story about an elderly woman who was 330 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: grabbed by a gator, which is rare. You know, she 331 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: was defending trying to defend her dog and the dog 332 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: and the dog survived. She got taken underwater. Just a reminder, 333 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, I had I had an uncle who was 334 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: Savannah p D. Savannah Police Department, and they get gators 335 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: there too. One thing he used to tell me, John, 336 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: is those that they you see them usually when you 337 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: do see them there, they look almost like they're you know, 338 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: kind of laid back. Then I appeared Dow. Yeah. He says, 339 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: they can come out of the water like a bullet basically, 340 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: and and they and they know when you're not looking, 341 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: and that's where they come for you. And then beyond that, 342 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: they're actually faster. Since we're two Florida guys sitting you're 343 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: talking about this, they're actually faster than people would think 344 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: on land over a short distance, like you don't want 345 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: one of them to come after you, even over twenty 346 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: fifteen or twenty feet. You know they've been tracted like 347 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: over thirty miles an hour on those short distances. Look, 348 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm out in the I kayak out there, I do 349 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: some backcountry fishing, and I take my horses out through 350 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: those trails back there. It's exactly what you're told. These 351 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: things are docile. They look like rocks that aren't going 352 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: to move until you watch them go for a kilt. 353 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: There might be a raccoon on the bank, or a 354 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: bird or a fish. They are lightning fast. You can't 355 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: even see them move. And and uh side note, the 356 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: buddy of mine is a debbie that was up in 357 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: Saint Lucy County or that poor woman was killed. It 358 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: was standing in the exact same spot on that bank 359 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: the night before in the dark. He's called me, he said, 360 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: I was standing right there. They got a call for 361 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: a criminal trustpass potential. They didn't find anybody. They were 362 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: walking around that lake with their flashlights in the exact 363 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: spot that gator jumped out grabbed that woman. And that 364 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: was a big gator that was ten eleven feet. I mean, 365 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: they can do tremendous they'll bring down a large animal. 366 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: So you know, an eighty five year old woman, she 367 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: really didn't stand a chance. It was really tragic. But 368 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: but to your point, that's right, real quick, I don't 369 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: want to interrupt it. But to your point, I can't 370 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: disclose this because I was told this in confidence by 371 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: some people who deal with the entities in the state 372 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: that move businesses to Florida. If people thin Florida's method alligators, 373 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: they are going to be shocked in a very pleasant way. 374 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: With some of the megabrands, the iconic companies trying to 375 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: negotiate moves to Florida for massive trunches of employees. This 376 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: is now. The state is a global powerhouse with international cities. 377 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: Miami Fort Lauderdale's booming. The Pond Beach area has become 378 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: a political hub. They are sorely mistaken the state. The 379 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: state is a country unto itself. At one point one 380 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: trillion dollars GDP at twenty four billion dollar budget, surplus 381 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: twenty two and a half million residents in growing. It's 382 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: the size of four or five Balkans nat and it's 383 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 1: GDP is about twenty times that many of the Balkans nations. 384 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: And so you're looking at a nation onto itself here, 385 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: not a state they're gonna be. That's a pretty naive assessment, 386 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, Um, I mean, look, you know we do. 387 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: There are people here in flip flops. 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There's variations on this. 441 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: Right in San Francisco, people say Oh, it's not that bad. 442 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: The violent crimes not that bad, but the property crime 443 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: is third world, third world hellhole level. Right. Other places. 444 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: You go to New Orleans, you go to Saint Louis, Baltimore. 445 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: You know, the violent crime rate is way higher than 446 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: it was in a few years ago. Florida cities have 447 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: had this happened. Well, I mean they really haven't. You know. 448 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: De Sante's is saying Florida as a state is at 449 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: its lowest statewide crime rate in fifty years. And this 450 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: is something that I think. I think if you're looking 451 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: for ways to get it independence in some of these 452 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: purple states, I think John they recognize that safety is 453 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: the thing that you either are on board with or 454 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: you're not. You know, public safety, you either get it 455 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: or you don't. That's right. You know, Florida culturally, even 456 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: Florida Democrats have been pro police. You don't see one 457 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: one of the things you don't see in Florida, where 458 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: we're the most populous state in America. You don't see 459 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: BLM riots. You know, Black Lives Matter doesn't riot in Florida. 460 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: Antifa doesn't riot in Florida. Because even your Democrats, if 461 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: I lived in Fort Lauderdale. In the city of Fort Lauderdale, 462 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: half a mile in the downtown drag, we have one 463 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: of the most liberal mayors in America, guy named Dean 464 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: Trent Hollis. But you know what, he's not liberal on crime. 465 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: In his police department, we have a Democrat eff But 466 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: you know what, the Broward Sheriff's office isn't far left 467 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: on enforcement of crime. And you see this across the board. 468 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: You see them the city of Miami, you see in Miami, 469 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: Gade County, you see them Palm Beach, even Orange County, 470 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: the Orlando area, which is which is really far left. 471 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: Valdeming's an impeachment manager. Her husband is a mayor up there. 472 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: They still let their cops and their sheriffs do their jobs, 473 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: and when they're right, they backed them. And I'm an 474 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: advocate that when your cops are right, back them. If 475 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: you have corrupt or brutal police officers, arrest them, put 476 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: them in handcuffs. Any cop will tell you that. But 477 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: in Florida, the sheriff's back up their deputies, and the 478 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: police chiefs back up their cops. They let them do 479 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: their jobs. And we just don't have these problems. And 480 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: the important thing to notebook is many of Florida's police departments. 481 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: One of the reasons that the Santus was on this 482 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: police recruitment tour or understaffed by the City of Miami. 483 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: P D has always been at below a minimum staffing levels, 484 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: but they manage to make it work wide because they 485 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: have mayors and county officials and city officials that'll back 486 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: them up when they do their jobs properly, and the 487 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: stand that when you're short staff sometimes you do it. 488 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: They use a level of force that is legal and justifiable, 489 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: and it might not look nice, but bad guys don't 490 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: want to be arrested peacefully. They fight back. There's no 491 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: knee jerk reaction of policing down here. That trickles down 492 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: because the bad guys know that, and they know they're 493 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: not going to be able to hire a ben Crump 494 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: over nonsense. It's going to come in and threaten to 495 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: sue the city for one hundred million dollars because the 496 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: police did their job properly. Those cries of races that 497 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: doesn't fly in Florida, even in cities that are predominantly black, 498 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: with black police chiefs and predominantly black departments there's still 499 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: this dividing line where law and order stands. And I 500 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: think that when you combine that with the fact that 501 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: it's very easy to get a weapon licensed to characon 502 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: zil weapon here. We have stand your ground laws here, 503 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: we have castle doctrine laws here that favor the individual 504 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: to an outstanding degree. We're gonna about to have constitutional carry, 505 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: permitless carry. The bad guys know there are better places 506 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: to victimize people than Florida. What is your everyday carry? John? 507 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: For the folks at home that they want to know, 508 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: what is the international arms dealer extraordinaires? What's his everyday guy? 509 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: I've got a few I uh typically carry these days, 510 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: a sigh three sixty five x macro which is a 511 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,239 Speaker 1: little larger but on warm days, this one my sig there. 512 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: Can you see that? Is that in the count? And 513 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: then another one that I just absolutely love, the glock 514 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: forty three X great, great, outstanding weapon. And then I 515 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: by my bedside, I have a special uh little treat buck. 516 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: It's a silenced Daniel Defense three hundred blackout. Wow. Look 517 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: at that, you know very will be happy to know 518 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: as a as a Florida resident, John, I am picking 519 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: up that's about. That's a beautiful Daniel Defense. I'm picking 520 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: up my DD four from Daniel Defense tomorrow along with 521 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: the staccato that they just convinced me to buy when 522 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: I was in there the last time. So I was like, yeah, 523 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: to get a staccato, you know, it's a little pricey. 524 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm waiting on my staccato there. I don't understand what 525 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: staccato puts into that recoil spring, but it's magic and 526 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: wizardry because the damn thing has no recoil. It's like 527 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: shooting at twenty two. It is the most well engineered 528 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: handgun I've ever fired in my life. It's it's amazing. Also, 529 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: you wouldn't expect, you know, because Barretta is the oldest 530 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: privately held company still in still an operation in the world. 531 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: I think it goes back to sixteen nineteen. Does that 532 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: sound yeah? Yeah? Or six No, not sixteen ninety, sixteen twenty. 533 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: I think I'm sixteen fourteen. It is around, you know, 534 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: the sixteen nineteen is you know, sixteen sixteen nineteen project 535 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: in there. I'm purposed in. I gotta I gotta find 536 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: out when the founding of Baretta was. I don't know 537 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: why that. I think it was maybe sixteen, sixteen, fourteen anyway, 538 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: seven it's seventeenth century. Um somewhere somewhere along there, the 539 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: founding founding of barretta um. But uh, Staccato is based 540 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: in Texas. You know, you hear Baretta, you think, oh, 541 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: it's an Italian, you know, gun maker. It makes very 542 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: very fancy shotguns. Staccato is a Texas based handgun maker. 543 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: And I guess there were tournament guns that now people 544 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,719 Speaker 1: have just realized my brother got one. I've been shooting 545 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: in and I just go, oh wow, it's it's amazing. Yeah, 546 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: they used to be they used to be branded as 547 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: STI and then they did re engineering. They made they 548 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: took the line from forty five ACP down to nine millimeter. 549 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: They re engineered them into these spectacular weapons. They are 550 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: today rebranded a Staccato. I'm just a big fan. I'm 551 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: waiting on I'm on a waiting list for the new cs. 552 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: They're they're compact. It is just an outstanding Bretta. I was. 553 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: I was actually a bit off. Fifteen twenty six was 554 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: when Bretto was founded. Fifteen Yeah, I shoot a lot 555 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: of clays Baretta. I have a Bretta DT eleven. It 556 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: is to me the best competition shotgun on the I 557 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: even got the century. I even got the century wrong. Yeah, 558 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: that's going way way back. Um so uh, John, I 559 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: mean to look at what's going on in New York. 560 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: You just had Mayor Adams getting a little, a little flustered. 561 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: I think with the recent visit of Ron de Santis 562 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: where he's doing this. I love that he went to 563 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: Staten Island, by the way, I love that he goes 564 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: to Staten Island. Um yeah, um, he goes to Staten 565 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: Island because he knows that, you know, there's gonna be 566 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: a lot of love at Staten Island, and you know, 567 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: Adams is not really like I felt like at one 568 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: point Adams was trying to maybe think about taking over 569 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: if Biden stepped aside. I feel like that maybe has 570 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: faded because I believe Biden is running again. I don't 571 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: think there's any Democrats have any choice. There is New 572 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: York getting better though on a crime on the crime side, 573 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how many guys you still know who 574 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: are on the job there. But is Adams doing Is 575 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: he doing the work? Yeah? Many not. Adam Adams is 576 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: a mess. And you know, the sad part of this 577 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: thing is that the police commissioner, she actually prey thought 578 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: she was hired as a diversity hire or woke higher, 579 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, black woman. They brought her in. Everybody expected 580 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: that was the reason. But she came out of the 581 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: Nassa County Police Department. She was their chief of detectives. 582 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: And everybody has spoken to in the Nassau County PD, 583 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: very conservative men and women, said she was a great 584 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: They trust her, they like her, and that she's incredibly 585 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: frustrated with Adams Constant. Adams Constant caving to the radically 586 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: far left New York City Council. Left to her own devices, 587 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: she would be a very proactive police commissioner. And two 588 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: of the people who told me this were a senior 589 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: command staff in the Nassau County PD who have our politics. 590 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: These are conservative, pragmatic guys. So Adams I think got 591 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: a taste of far left money and he's a band 592 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: and all reason he's become he's a real disgrace. I mean, 593 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: I think he's as bad as the Blasio is. And 594 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: it's said that he's got a police commissioner who wants 595 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: to be proactive and effective, and let's face it, and 596 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: the world we live in, the fact that she's a 597 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: black woman doesn't hurt her political cover when the police 598 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: have to be proactive. Out that he won't let her 599 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: do her job is disgraceful. But there's something important to 600 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: point out book. One of the most effective tools we 601 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: had in our toolbox, but the NYPD was stopping frisk. 602 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: Stopping frisk was deemed illegal. Put that in quotes years 603 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 1: back by a federal judge who knew she was going 604 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: to be overturned by the Supreme Court. He named Chure Schinlin. 605 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: Just she resigned her federal judge ship. The Deblasio administration 606 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: never appealed her decision, and had they stoppin frisk would 607 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: be the law of the land in New York again, 608 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: because it was already established constitutional in Terry Vial, Ohio 609 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty four in the US Supreme Court. So 610 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: this judge handed down a decision that flew in the 611 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: face of Supreme Court precedent. He would have been overturned 612 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: summarily in a day. But no one, not de Blasio 613 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: and now Adams is challenging that decision, appealing that decision 614 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: and putting stopping frisk back in the NYPD's toolbox and 615 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: with broken windows. Rigiliani's strategy of broken windows and stopping 616 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: frisk was very simple. The best guys were in check, 617 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: murders dropped or robberies dropped. The NYPD is cheating itself 618 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: by not having that tool. Why does it work? Because 619 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: people now say the line is stopping frisk doesn't work. 620 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: People say this as though that's a that's a decided fact. 621 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: I mean they also say walls don't work. I mean 622 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things vaccines do. The COVID vaccines, 623 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: I should say, do work. There's a lot of things 624 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: people say that don't really work, aren't really true. Why 625 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: does stopping frisk work? We'll tell you. Okay, so let 626 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: me add one thing. The other thing that was done 627 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: to the NYPD that was simply maronic if they got 628 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: rid of the plane, closed units, precinct level anti crime units, 629 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: and street crime units. So why are all those things work? 630 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: To become an officer or and subsequently detective in street 631 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: crime unit that no longer exists or anti crime units. 632 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: You want to be a really proactive street cop with 633 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: a really clean, an impressive activity report, right, So you 634 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: couldn't have excessive complaints. You They wanted to have a 635 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: lot of gun callers, gun arrests on robber arrest said 636 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: what do you have down? Now? You've got squads of 637 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: men and women with tremendous collective experience with a tool 638 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: in their toolbox that allows them to go through high 639 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: crime areas. Say an area has a condition of armed 640 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: robberies or attempted murders or gang shootings. They know what 641 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: to look for. It they in order to look for 642 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: the bulge in the waistpan, the drooping pocket, the way 643 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: a gun might fall, the way a shotgun might be concealed, 644 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,719 Speaker 1: a sawt off down the leg of someone's pants. If 645 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: they're going to do a gang shooting or a drive by, 646 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: stop and first enable them to get out of their vehicle, 647 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: engage the person in conversation, and if if they saw 648 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: something a shape consistent with that of a firearm or 649 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: other weapon, they could conduct a pat down, not a search. 650 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: Couldn't go in the clothing in the pockets a pat down. 651 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: If that pat down revealed something consistent with a weapon, 652 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: say it was three cylinders, you can then go in 653 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: the pocket. Now if they turned out not to be ammunition, 654 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: but crack files that would be admissible. Hit though a 655 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: gun feels like a gun, and then you can obviously 656 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: go into the clothing, remove the weapon, secure the scene. 657 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: If it's a legal, licensed weapon, everybody goes on their way. 658 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: If it's not, people go to jail. It wasn't this indiscriminate. 659 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: Let's go out there, stop everybody, toss and throw them 660 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: on the ground. No, you had to notify a supervisor. 661 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: You had to fill out the form. I believe it 662 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: was the UF two for nine form going back with 663 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: a few years. For me, you had to fill that 664 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: out in triplicate. One went to your supervisor, one went 665 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: to the command, the other went to the precincts Integrity 666 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: control officer, which was typically a lieutenant who was essentially 667 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: the internal affairs resident in that command. There was tremendous oversight. 668 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: There were three levels of checks and balance to make 669 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: sure this wasn't abused. And it was a tool that 670 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: enabled the police to be proactive. So when you get 671 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: rid of those plane closes units and you get rid 672 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: of a tool like stop and frisk, you're only left 673 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: being reactive, meaning you show up after the person they 674 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 1: shot or dead, because you weren't able to go out 675 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: there to the areas you knew there were problems, focusing 676 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 1: on people you knew were problems and get in front 677 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: of the murder, the attempted murder, the armed robbery, the 678 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: armed rape before it happened. And that's why it works. 679 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: Have you seen some of these This is on a 680 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: much less important serious issue, but have you seen these 681 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: videos where activists try to get cops to request their 682 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: name and ID? If? This is all over the internet 683 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: now all the time, and you know you were actually 684 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,919 Speaker 1: a guy on the job. I mean, I John knows 685 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: this because we're good buddies. But I mean I was 686 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: a sent by the CIA to do some analysis assistance 687 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: to the Intelligence Division the MYPD, But I never I 688 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: never had a badge and a gun at the m YPD, 689 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: So I didn't actually do arrests and things like that 690 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 1: you did. So what is the actual now? I understand 691 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: it can vary by jurisdiction, but I mean, if you're 692 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: in New York, what do you have to tell a 693 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: cop when he comes up to you? And because some 694 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: of these guys, I remember those one guy who's like, 695 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm not telling you anything, and the cops like, no, 696 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: I this is the this is the infraction. I mean, 697 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: I have reason to believe you've committed the fault that 698 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, you are a trespassing on private property. And 699 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: the guy's like, well, no, no, I'm not, and I'm 700 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: not telling you my name. He's like, well, now you're 701 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: getting arrested, all right, So yeah, how does it work? 702 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, so it's a good question. Right, So there's 703 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: just three levels. Right, you have a mere suspicion, reasonable suspicion, 704 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: and probable cause. Okay, mere suspicion is I'm on patrol 705 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: in a warehouse district. You're walking down the street at 706 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: three o'clock in the morning in an area where people 707 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: typically are not I really have no reason to engage 708 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: you in any way, shape or for sure. I'm going 709 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: to be a little suspicious why are you there? But 710 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: typically I'm just going to roll around the block a 711 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: couple of times and if I see, you know, a 712 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: taxi cab come pick you up. Okay, you know you 713 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 1: probably got lost, whatever you call the cab, the cab 714 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: come together, you uber came to get you. Reasonable suspicion 715 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: now would be you walk up to this warehouse you're 716 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: kind of pulling on the window bars, you're jeduling the 717 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: door locks. Now I'm going to go up and engage 718 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: you in conversation. What are you doing? Oh hey, I'm 719 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: John Smith. I work here. I'm an engineer. Inside I'm 720 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: a machinist. I want to see the door was open. 721 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: I left something here at work. Here's my business Carter, 722 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: here's my boss's name, call him up. Here's my life. 723 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: You know in this situation, I'm like that, Okay, the 724 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: guy probably really does work here. He's giving me the 725 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: right name of the company. Probable causes. I'm watching you 726 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: smash the window. Or somebody called nine one one and 727 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: said we own this property, or we live across the 728 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: street from this property. We know the owners, we know 729 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: everybody there. We call the owners and the employees. They 730 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: don't know this person. He's inside the chain link fence 731 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: in the lot. Now we have reasonable suspicion leading the 732 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: probable cause. So when a police officer says we think 733 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: you're criminally trespassing, typically there's some stuff behind that. There's 734 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: a nine one one call, or this person fits a 735 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: description of somebody that intelligence report said was burglarizing in 736 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 1: the area. There are reasons that you would tell somebody 737 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: they could possibly face arrest for that. It's not just 738 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: done in a vacuum and indiscriminate. So that's general thirty 739 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: thousand foot view of how it all works. But so 740 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: if a guy is walking around, let's say, in a 741 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: public park, and the cops come up to him and 742 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 1: they say, hey, hey, what's your name? What are you 743 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: doing here? In that circumstance he is, you can say, 744 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm not speaking to you right like, yeah, now if 745 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: this okay, So that's the scenario if they got no call. However, 746 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: if somebody called nine one one and said this guy 747 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: mail has found at five foot ten, dark hair and eyes, 748 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: green bubble jacket like a down jacket, blue jeans, white sneakers, 749 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: was trying to entice children into his vehicle. Now you 750 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: can hold him. Now you can try to find the 751 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: people who called nine one one with callback numbers, ask 752 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: them if they'll show up there and see if he's 753 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: the person that they were talking about. If they can 754 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: identify them, then you can detain. So see, I think 755 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: this is where I think this is where some of 756 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: these videos it gets interesting because the you know, the 757 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: activist or what I mean they're trying to debate police 758 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: officers into this. By the way, this is this whole 759 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 1: there's this whole culture of this, and it gets a 760 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: lot of video views and people like, oh, look at 761 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: the cops, the whole thing. Um it's by the way. 762 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes for the cops, I feel like it's almost an 763 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: advertisement because some of these cops are super polite, efficient, 764 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: know the law backwards and forwards, unshakable, you know, you know, yes, no. 765 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: But it gets a little bit that that's in a 766 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: situation when the guy just walks up and he actually 767 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: doesn't have problem. Calls you laid out. But sometimes I'll 768 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 1: say no, no, someone called me and they think you're 769 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: trying to break in. You know, there's a break in 770 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: call and or you know there's there's a trespass call 771 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: and I need to know who you are, and they're 772 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: just like no, And then the cops get into this, Well, 773 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to like wrestle you to the ground and 774 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: maybe tas you if you don't stop this, I'm not 775 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 1: going to allow you to detain me thing right, I mean, 776 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: that's you do get the said Sometimes that there's this 777 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 1: this nose people have where law enforcement says I am 778 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: going to detain you, and then people just say, no, 779 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:57,240 Speaker 1: you're not. That's not a good move. Most people are normal. 780 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: I'll give the case in point personal experience. Got to 781 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: not on one calls one night for a young male 782 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: black and a young female black. He was wearing a 783 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: black jab twenty years ago, but I remember it. She 784 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: was wearing a red red They called him bubble jackets, 785 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 1: you know down the north face tap oh, I remember, yeah, 786 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: those are very popular black battle jacket, carrying a firearm 787 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: on his right hip, and the gun was described as 788 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: a revolver with a stainless deal finish. Pretty specific right. 789 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: They described where they were walking. So we were a 790 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: couple of blocks away. We turned the corner and no lights. 791 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: Those sirens were in playing clothes and yeah we saw them. 792 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: So I get out of the car. We I d ourselves, 793 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: said hey, can we see your hands? And the guy says, 794 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: you've got a nine one one call for a gun, 795 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: and we said yeah. He said, hey, I'm an armored 796 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: car driver, I'm on my way to work. I've got 797 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: my license. I'm allowed to have the gun too, And 798 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: from I said you are, I said, can I reach 799 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: for my licensure, no problem, pulled it out. He was licensed. 800 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: It was all legit. He was an armed car driver 801 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: going to work with his girlfriend and his story. The 802 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: exchange lasted ten seconds. We shook hands, have a great night, 803 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: be safe. That's how ninety nine point nine percent of 804 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: these go. Even when it's a mistake, these people that 805 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: want to put this on video do everything they truly 806 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: can to instigate the situation far beyond wherever need to 807 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: go in my opinion. Oh, I know, I've seen some 808 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: of them where where it's it's clear that they are 809 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: trying to bathe the officer. Occasionally you see, Look, you 810 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 1: also get some of these officers who are a little 811 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 1: bit like the airline attendance with the mask rules, you know, 812 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,919 Speaker 1: the little drunk on power you do what I say 813 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: and everything else. And those are the videos that go 814 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: super viral because that actually isn't what the law is, right, 815 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: It's not just you know, you have to stay here 816 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: because I say so, because I'm an officer. And you know, 817 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: look at my buff arms. I look tough. That doesn't 818 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 1: that's not a good look. The guy doesn't have Cardillo arms, obviously, 819 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: although you might have Cardillo you might have Cardillo tats 820 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: because John, you gotta you gotta are are these like 821 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: relatively new as as I'm talking to you. For those 822 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: who are listening and can't see, he's got like the 823 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings trilogy written on his right arm 824 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: on the inside there like it's it's it's a it's 825 00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: a not a novella for sure. When did this is? Um? Okay? 826 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: Let see how get it into the camera here everything's reversed. 827 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: This is Thomas Teddy Roosevelt Man in the Arena, truncated 828 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: of course, because it's a lot longer. I don't know 829 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: over the years, I've just been putting them together. I 830 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,760 Speaker 1: don't have a number, like how many tats. By the way, tattoo, 831 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: I just came back from Bora Bora, and I like 832 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,240 Speaker 1: to tell people fun fun fact. Tattoo comes from Tahiti. 833 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,800 Speaker 1: That is the origin of the uh and it's a 834 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: tribal you think of Polynesian and tribal tattoos, this is 835 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: where we get the word comes from. By the way, 836 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 1: when you're over there, you'll see men and women, I 837 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: mean women will have well you see this everywhere now, 838 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: but women will have these really ornate tribal tattoos across 839 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: like their shoulder. Usually some of the men do. And 840 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: obviously when you get into the some of the indigenous 841 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 1: population of Australia and New Zealand. New Zealand, specifically the Mayori, 842 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 1: they have the the face face, really intrigate face tattoo. 843 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: But so so, do you have a number for how 844 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: many you have? Total? Here? What'll happen? One? Two? About 845 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: six or seven? I guess at this point I'm just 846 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 1: laughing because tomorrow on Twitter Buck Sexton sixteen nineteen, Advocate 847 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: announces polonization of Polynesia. You know how these people are 848 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,479 Speaker 1: going to spend this conversation because they're all lunatics. Oh yeah, 849 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean, one thing I thought was so interesting about 850 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: about Bora Bora um was that there's a really positive 851 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 1: relationship between and this is from everyone I talked. Look, 852 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: I was on vacation, I'm not I'm not you know, 853 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: wasn't doing PhD research or something there, But just from 854 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 1: talking to everybody, the look you go to you go 855 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: to some countries and in some country in the Caribbean, 856 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: for example, and there's still a lot of animosity toward 857 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: the former colonial country, colonial power, or whatever it may be. 858 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 1: In the case of a place like French Polynesia, the 859 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: relationship between the French and the Polynesians is very strong. 860 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: They all get EU passports and they can travel freely 861 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: back and forth, and it's got the average. I did 862 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: a little research because I was curious about the average 863 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: per capita income or gdpeper capita. I should say, uh, 864 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: in this little island chain of a couple hundred islands 865 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: is like twenty two thousand US a year, which is 866 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: actually high. I mean, that's you're you're basically at I mean, 867 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: that's what you'd have in a lot of you know, 868 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 1: some of the Eastern European countries I think would be 869 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: maybe a little higher than that. But you know, it's 870 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: comparatively to some places in more remote parts of the world. 871 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a that's a very solid and you 872 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: just you don't get the sense that there's a real 873 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: animosity toward the former colonial authority, the French, and you 874 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 1: get all the nice croissants and the tasty food and 875 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 1: the beautiful weather. So Bora, Bora a big fan of it. 876 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Yeah. The being of the beer. 877 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,800 Speaker 1: There's always been the old debate that whiskey colonies and 878 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: the wine colonies. You know, how do they how do 879 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 1: they fare? Right? But that's interesting because then you look 880 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: at Haiti, right, it's the exact opposite. You go down 881 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: to Polynesia, well, and you gotta wonder what, you know, 882 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 1: what's the cause of that was there were the trade 883 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: routes coming through Polynesian more and then just they were 884 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 1: building that wealth for a longer period of time. Natural disasters, 885 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, but that is an interesting metric. Former 886 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: British colonies, Um, you can tell always have like you 887 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: go to a whole range, a whole range of places, 888 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: but the former British colonies, they always leave behind their language, 889 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: their roads and their law. And that's just you just 890 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 1: have that in every place the British and whether it's 891 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 1: Canada or it's um, you know, name a place where 892 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 1: the British, you know, India, I mean, you know they're 893 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 1: they're left. India has like two hundred languages, but it 894 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: was obviously a lot of English speaking spoken there. Um, 895 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: the French leave behind their food. That's really what's so 896 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 1: that's you know, you no more a French colony. You're like, 897 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: I mean I can get steak free. So that is 898 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: kind of exciting. Yep, yep, yeah, So that's it. What 899 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 1: what is the card What is the Cardillo travel destination? 900 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: That is that is either top recommendation or next on 901 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: the list. Since we're we're having some fun and talking 902 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: about the random things, you know that that is an 903 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 1: interesting one. I'll tell you right now. Um Sicily is 904 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,439 Speaker 1: on my list. You We have a good mutual friend 905 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 1: of family with a home there, very good friends of mine, 906 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: and I was friends of yours as well, you know, 907 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 1: the daughter and I was with them for lunch today 908 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: and they were showing me picks of a place they're 909 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 1: thinking about buying there. And interestingly enough, if anybody watched 910 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 1: The White Lotus, they they got married in that hotel 911 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: in season two and the place they want to buy 912 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 1: is close by and it just looks absolutely spectacular. So 913 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: after seeing that today and they had showed me on 914 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: Sunday as well, that's bumped to the top of my list. 915 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: I hear, I hear fantastic things about it. I actually 916 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna take the new Missus Sex in tow. 917 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 1: We're thinking about going to Columbia because they had a 918 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 1: friend down in Columbia. It's awesome. I've been down and 919 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, living in South Florida, have a lot of 920 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 1: friends who go back and forth. It has become a 921 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 1: tourists nation. The cities are incredibly safe and everyone who 922 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,439 Speaker 1: goes has an absolutely phenomenal time. Interestingly enough, a couple 923 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 1: of buddies are a d agents were stationed down there 924 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: and it was a war zone. Now go back on 925 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: vacation and love it. They love it. So that's that's 926 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,439 Speaker 1: on my shortlist as well. Yeah, all right, cool well John, 927 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: I always great to hang out man. Thanks for being 928 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 1: here with us, and we will we'll have you back 929 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: on talk about a whole range of issues, including what 930 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: I think is going to be a very interesting Republican primary. 931 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: But follow John Cardillo on Twitter everybody, and keep an 932 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: eye out for him on all the various platforms out there, 933 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,439 Speaker 1: including this one. John, thanks for hanging out anytime. Brother. 934 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 1: Let's go shooting soon. Buck. Thanks absolutely