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<v Speaker 1>Scotty Kurtie b hit me because boy, oh boy, I

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<v Speaker 1>need a laugh and laugh and laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought about doing something funny, right, having a headline

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<v Speaker 2>that's funny, That's a classic Banana's way to start an episode.

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<v Speaker 2>But I can't because I'm so obsessed with this man

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<v Speaker 2>and there's nothing there's nothing funny about this until we

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<v Speaker 2>get into the details. But I am gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 2>all about Adolph Sachs, the inventor of the saxophone.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I want a whole podcast, like a multi

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<v Speaker 2>serious episode podcast about this man. He is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's time to toot our own horns, because this

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be just an instrumental to your life episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the bananas Pot Cast.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you Billiant Pieces, Birthday, John Bananasa.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, Goals, non binary pals, Welcome to Bananas. I am

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<v Speaker 2>kurb Brown Older.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Banana Boy number two. Scotti landis you know

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<v Speaker 1>for the next fifty one minutes, don't worry about the world,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about anything except having a great time for

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<v Speaker 1>fifty minutes and thirty seconds with the Banana Boys. We're

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<v Speaker 1>here to ease you through the cruel existence that we're

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<v Speaker 1>currently experiencing.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so excited just to be here in a

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<v Speaker 2>solo with you. We haven't done one in a very

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<v Speaker 2>long time. We just had a slew of guests.

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<v Speaker 1>We a great guess, all wonderful, each better than the last,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you, and keep a recommending guests to us too.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd be surprised we reach out to pretty much all

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<v Speaker 1>of them. People are very busy, they have their own lives,

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<v Speaker 1>they have certain windows of time where they can record things,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are a lot of people are very bad

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<v Speaker 1>at emailing, so and.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people hear the name of the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>and think that sounds dumb, and we're like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's dumb on purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, We're dumb on purpose. Speaking of which, Kurtie

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<v Speaker 1>B and I have a show in Phoenix on March

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ninth at three pm that Stand Up Live, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a very fun place to perform.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge, Huge Phoenix. You gotta show up because this place

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<v Speaker 2>is gigantic. If we don't have it at least three

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<v Speaker 2>quarters full, it's going to feel like an empty cavern.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I'm going hard either way, and remember to bring

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<v Speaker 1>an idea.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna be drinking. Then you're gonna be dripping back right.

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<v Speaker 1>Off the wagon, I think. So it's been a it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a fun adventure. But it'll be fun to have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of daytime BEVs with the ban animals.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, bring your confessions. We put a confessions box

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<v Speaker 1>out in the lobby, so when you come in, there'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a box that literally says Banana's Confessions on it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have index cards. Right, you're steaming hot but true

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<v Speaker 1>confessions and be a part of the Bananas Live Show.

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<v Speaker 2>And Cincinnati, Cincinnati. I have never been to Cincinnati in

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<v Speaker 2>my entire life. I realized that when I had to Google,

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<v Speaker 2>when I had to look at it spelling five times

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, that's out spelled. Is that really how

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati is spelled? So I will be at the Commonwealth Sanctuary,

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<v Speaker 2>which is actually in Kentucky, but I guess I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even know this. Cincinnati is part borders Kentucky as well. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's right over the river, I'm assuming, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a great show. And that's May ninth, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just focusing on that one. Of course, there's Chicago,

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<v Speaker 2>there's Asbury Park, too, but May ninth, Cincinnati. Come on,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, come on Ohio show, CURTI be you care. So

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<v Speaker 1>then the Banana Boys can follow suit and do an

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio show in twenty twenty five. Yeah, oh man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>eighty degrees today.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, I don't. I don't trust it, Scottie, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't trust a February eighty degree day. It makes me

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<v Speaker 2>slightly uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, me too. But I think after we record this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, once in a lifetime very special episode of Bananas,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll probably take a long walk, like I'm talking like

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<v Speaker 1>a three hour just wander. Oh, look at foliage. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that fauna. It's gonna be nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I have my I I think I maybe I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>try and just blast some quads. I'm gonna work out

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<v Speaker 2>after this. But my I'm I've been so stressed. The

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<v Speaker 2>past ten days have been the most stressful ten days,

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<v Speaker 2>and like the last like it's just basically like last

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<v Speaker 2>week and the week I was traveling NonStop. I took

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<v Speaker 2>you were I took five flights in six days, so

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<v Speaker 2>that I had one day that I didn't fly out

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<v Speaker 2>of like a whole week almost and then immediately came

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<v Speaker 2>back and we had to put together this pitch in

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<v Speaker 2>three days two and a half days. And we put

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<v Speaker 2>a whole pitch together in two and a half days,

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<v Speaker 2>Lauren and I and then I'm very happy.

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<v Speaker 1>With it, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I feel like it's par for the

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<v Speaker 2>course for Scotty putting a pitch together in two and

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<v Speaker 2>a half days.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, but I don't have anything going on. You have

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<v Speaker 1>a very full and complicated life. Also, happy birthday. You

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<v Speaker 1>were on the road for your birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>But first time looked really nice. First time on the

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<v Speaker 2>road for my birthday. Oh, actually, I think in like

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen years I was on the road in Minneapolis for

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<v Speaker 2>my birthday, maybe in like two thousand and twelve or something.

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<v Speaker 2>But first time on the road for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>and first time since I probably was seventeen or eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>that I wasn't drinking on my birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but you did get a cake and you did

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<v Speaker 1>do two big ass shows.

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<v Speaker 2>Where were you York or toront I was into Vancouver.

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<v Speaker 1>Vancouver Ooh nice? Yeah, coud You and I hung out

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<v Speaker 1>in Oakland and had a wonderful time. You were so

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<v Speaker 1>funny that theater was gorge that Oakland.

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<v Speaker 2>My goodness, God, damn Oakland killed theater. Comeil killed New

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<v Speaker 2>Hours great?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, New Hours great? Molly and I drove up. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you really not know I was coming up?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean no, I didn't. No, I didn't know at all. No, Kumel.

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<v Speaker 2>When I got there was like, uh, Molly and scotty'll

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<v Speaker 2>be here soon.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what do you what? Yeah, we drove up.

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<v Speaker 1>We did a little road trip and uh, it was wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Oakland was great. There. There was a very nice woman

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<v Speaker 1>named Sharene who brought Comeil Pakistani food from across the street.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's the only food I ate that day. Looking back,

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<v Speaker 1>I woke up the next morning, I was like, all

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<v Speaker 1>I had was that delicious Pakistani food, So thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding? That's all you ate all day long?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you drop?

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<v Speaker 2>Really?

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<v Speaker 1>We just kept we were hauling, but to get up there,

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure we were there ahead of the show

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<v Speaker 1>and check our hotel and get there. It's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm happy you were there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was great. I was lovely to see you kill

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<v Speaker 1>it in front of so many lovely people. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there have been animals in that crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Adolph Sachs, Dude, this is I mean, I got

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<v Speaker 2>this off of the depths of Wikipedia, which is an

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram page you should often follow heavy, but don't even

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<v Speaker 2>follow it because I get too many stories off of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so great.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just I'm just going to be reading this

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<v Speaker 2>man's Wikipedia page to you, okay. And it is so

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<v Speaker 2>it's so filled with amazing things, all right. So Antoine

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<v Speaker 2>Joseph Adolph was I guess his nickname sas. He was

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<v Speaker 2>a Frenchman. He lived from eighteen fourteen to eighteen ninety four.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, sorry, he wasn't French. He was a Belgian

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<v Speaker 2>inventor and musician. He invented the saxophone in the early

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen forties. Early life. He was born eighteen fourteen in

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<v Speaker 2>what is now Belgium. His parents were, I'm gonna, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>jump aside.

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<v Speaker 1>Long ago for the saxophone. I would have guessed it

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<v Speaker 1>was from the fourteen hundreds.

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<v Speaker 2>Agreed, agreed, well, the saxophone. I don't know. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like the saxophone feels like a more modern instrument, but

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<v Speaker 2>you couldn't exactly I couldn't exactly put my finger on

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<v Speaker 2>why maybe only because it's like in Lady in Red.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe because it's in Lady in the Red, Lady in Red,

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<v Speaker 1>that Lady in Red? Is it even in that? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Here it is so he was His parents were instrument makers,

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<v Speaker 2>which is awesome in the fact that there are no

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<v Speaker 2>more instrument makers people inventing instruments. Like I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we got all the instruments and now we're just playing

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<v Speaker 2>with them, you know, and the only the only things

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<v Speaker 2>that are getting invented are like some insane like I

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<v Speaker 2>taught this plant to play a synthesizer, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of instrument.

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<v Speaker 1>Good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, man, it sounds like that the whole time. So

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<v Speaker 2>here it is Sacks. This is little baby Sacks. Sacks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny to call him Sacks too. I mean, Sacks

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<v Speaker 2>faced many brushes with death. This is second paragraph, the

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<v Speaker 2>second paragraph of this man's life. Right as a child,

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<v Speaker 2>he once fell from a height of three floors, hit

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<v Speaker 2>his head on a stone, and was believed dead. At

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<v Speaker 2>the age of three, he drank a bowl full of

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<v Speaker 2>acidic water, mistaking it for milk, and later swallowed a pin.

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<v Speaker 2>He received serious burns from a gunpowder explosion and once

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<v Speaker 2>fell into a hot cast iron frying pan, burning his

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<v Speaker 2>side go. Several times he avoided accidental poisoning and asphyxiation

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<v Speaker 2>from sleeping in a room where varnish furniture was drying.

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<v Speaker 2>Another time, young Sacks was struck on the head by

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<v Speaker 2>a cobblestone and fell into a river, almost dying. If

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<v Speaker 2>you are wondering what it takes, if you're wondering if

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<v Speaker 2>you have what it takes to invent the saxophone, this

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<v Speaker 2>is what you need to go through. You need to

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<v Speaker 2>almost die eight times before the age of eleven. All right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>his mother once said that quote, He's a child condemned

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<v Speaker 2>to misfortune. He won't live. Whoa wow to have that

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<v Speaker 2>in print, that means she said it to someone. Of note,

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't just something she said to nobody.

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<v Speaker 1>And also think of medicine back then, in like hospitalists,

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<v Speaker 1>probably just some country doctor just kept getting called to

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<v Speaker 1>have to like the boy who wouldn't die, and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>here you go patch him up.

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<v Speaker 2>His mother Okay, so his neighbors called him little Sax

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<v Speaker 2>the ghost. So after leaving the Royal Conservatory of Brussels,

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<v Speaker 2>sax Beyond experiment with new instrument designs while his parents

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<v Speaker 2>continued their business of making conventional instruments. Sacks first important

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<v Speaker 2>invent was an improvement in the bass clarinet. Then he

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<v Speaker 2>began working on valved bugles and paris in eighteen forty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course it's a classic. It's a classic lateral valve

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<v Speaker 2>fugle move. While he did not invent the systrument, his

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<v Speaker 2>examples were much more successful than those of his rivals

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<v Speaker 2>and became known as sax horns. Hector Billios was enamored

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<v Speaker 2>of these blah blah blah. Then he invented something called

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<v Speaker 2>a fugal horn. Today, sax horns are sometimes used in

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<v Speaker 2>concert bands, that's interesting, marching bands and orchestras. The sax

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<v Speaker 2>horn also laid the groundwork for the more modern euphonium.

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<v Speaker 1>I know about that one, I did not.

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<v Speaker 2>The sax also developed the saxotromba family of valved brass

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<v Speaker 2>instruments with narrower bore than the sax horns in eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty five, but they only survived briefly. Just like him

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<v Speaker 2>as a child, the use of sax horns spread rapidly.

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<v Speaker 2>The sax horn valves were accepted as state of the

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<v Speaker 2>art in their time and remain largely unchanged today. That's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty surprising.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah bah bah.

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<v Speaker 2>In the period around eighteen forty he invented the clarinet boudon,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the old the contrabass contra bass clarinet.

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<v Speaker 1>Is what we call it now, sure it all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in eighteen forty six, Sacks of designed saxophones,

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<v Speaker 2>ranging from the soprano to the subcontrabass, although not all

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<v Speaker 2>were built, so he designed them. So he made the saxophone.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's here's where it gets weird again. During the Crimean

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<v Speaker 2>War eighteen fifty three to eighteen fifty six, Sacks made

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<v Speaker 2>two more inventions. First, he designed the saxo tonaire A.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just getting carried away, just a hamster shooter.

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<v Speaker 2>He can't wait. A massive locomotive powered origin.

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<v Speaker 1>Which was.

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<v Speaker 2>Which was supposed to be so loud as to be

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<v Speaker 2>heard across all of Paris at once. Imagine playing the

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<v Speaker 2>locomotive powered organ. The person who plays it is death.

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<v Speaker 2>By the time they're doud plague it. It could be

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<v Speaker 2>heard across all of Paris. The second was developed in

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<v Speaker 2>response to the crimean Wars sage of Sevistpool, where the

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<v Speaker 2>French military and its allies were locked in a destructive conflict.

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<v Speaker 2>As a potential solution to such lengthy sieges, Saxon thus

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<v Speaker 2>designed the Saxocannon, a giant cannon whose half ton round

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<v Speaker 2>shots would be powerful enough to completely destroy a quote

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<v Speaker 2>average sized city. He's making the cannons. He's oh, and

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<v Speaker 2>then and then he died.

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<v Speaker 1>Weared that his instrument can entertain Paris, but this weapon

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<v Speaker 1>canoni blow up half of an average sized city.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm assuming that it is shaped as a giant saxophone.

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<v Speaker 1>Or i at least launched from a giant saxophone. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just a big bellows on one end, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>just goes down and ski jumps out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm imagining that the locomotive powered organ looks like

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<v Speaker 2>an organ that doctor Seuss would invent, you know, And

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is the I can't even.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe this detail.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, how you play? Have you ever played a saxophone?

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<v Speaker 2>You ever played any woodwind instruments?

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<v Speaker 1>This is my first attempt. Yes, I played it for

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<v Speaker 1>a month or something and was terrible at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I played saxophone for like a year

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<v Speaker 2>or two.

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<v Speaker 1>Equally terrible Sex suffered.

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<v Speaker 2>From lip cancer between eighteen fifty three and eighteen fifty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>but made a full recovery. What the guy who needs

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<v Speaker 2>his lips to play all of his instruments and then

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<v Speaker 2>he beat it five years later. I mean, this guy

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<v Speaker 2>cannot die. No, And then he died and then listened

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<v Speaker 2>to this, listen to this. In eighteen ninety four, he

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<v Speaker 2>died of pneumonia in Paris, in pop tea, in poverty.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to disparage the dead, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>a feeling if he had all that saxophone money, he

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<v Speaker 1>must have blown it on opium and sex workers.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we definitely, I mean, like, first off, that's

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<v Speaker 2>why we need to have a multipart podcast about him.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the other instruments. He invented scotti, saxotromba, which looks crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>sax horn which looks fine, sax tuba.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gotta sound so funny and be so heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>It is from the picture I believe it to be

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<v Speaker 2>if you put it on the ground, I believe it

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<v Speaker 2>to be eight feet tall. And then a person puts

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<v Speaker 2>it over their shoulders and then has it around, it

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<v Speaker 2>circles their body and then just shoots out the top.

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<v Speaker 2>And then a six piston trombone. This is the crazy

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<v Speaker 2>that looks doctor Susie. So imagine a trombone. Okay, but

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<v Speaker 2>then on the a right angle down from it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you then have six more of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Slides, a vertical bone. That's cool. Yeah, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>only I had more arms to play it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you just wanna it seems like a word.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand how you would play it. And then

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<v Speaker 2>a bass sax horn, which looks just like somebody took

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<v Speaker 2>like a tube and just crumpled it up and then

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<v Speaker 2>threw it on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is why he was putting all his money

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<v Speaker 1>back into failed instruments instead. If he didn't, he should

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<v Speaker 1>just ridden the saxophone into the history books.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but we know his nad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, damn, that's a really good that's a really good

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<v Speaker 1>educational moment for this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is an educational podcast, so that's why we

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<v Speaker 2>have these.

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<v Speaker 1>I like a saxophone, but yeah, I was terrible at

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<v Speaker 1>playing it. I didn't understand why there were so many

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<v Speaker 1>buttons and valves. I was fine it making and I

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<v Speaker 1>was finally blowing on that saxophone and getting a sound

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<v Speaker 1>to come out of it. But I had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what notes I was playing, but it was It's a

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<v Speaker 1>stylish looking instrument. I have to say, like I was watching,

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I did some traveling last year. I was

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<v Speaker 1>in Venice, Italy, and there's yeah, I think in Saint

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<v Speaker 1>Catherine Square they have the thing where you sit outside

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<v Speaker 1>and every restaurant or ice cream place has its own

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<v Speaker 1>house band on a stage outside and they take turns

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<v Speaker 1>playing standards and famous Italian songs and stuff, and then

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<v Speaker 1>so one to play for twenty minutes, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of drinks, and then two shops down their

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<v Speaker 1>band plays, and then across the thing their band plays,

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<v Speaker 1>and you got tourists just walk around. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>take a seat, you kind of get to see one

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<v Speaker 1>group play I don't know, four or five songs if

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<v Speaker 1>you stay for a couple hours. And I was blown

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<v Speaker 1>away by the clarinet player. My guy, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that's what clarinet sounded like in small

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<v Speaker 1>instrumental bands. Oh my big takeaway from Italy. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>clear net guy and I didn't know that great instrument.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a great instrument, isn't it. It's like a

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<v Speaker 2>little it's like a higher pitch saxophone. It feels like

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what it sounded like, right, yeah, thinking

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<v Speaker 2>of the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's a little maybe no, not higher pitch. Yeah, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say like a breathier God, it's the right

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<v Speaker 1>way to say it. It's a it's like a warmer,

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<v Speaker 1>less squeaky sound.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, great, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Mace one, but I mean, God, bless the saxophone. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a cool instrument. And if you if you're at a

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<v Speaker 1>wedding and then somebody in the wedding band pulls out

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<v Speaker 1>that sax and starts warming up, you know that band's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be rocking. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have I have a I have a famous

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<v Speaker 2>bit where I ship on the saxophone and I want

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<v Speaker 2>to announce that it was invented, invented outrage. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really mind the saxophone that much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good to clear that up because we don't need

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<v Speaker 1>protesters outside.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want any show because sometimes we get a

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<v Speaker 2>little controversial here. M all right, Scottie, get us one

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<v Speaker 2>for you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I have another long one too about an equally Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a long article, but this guy also had grand visions.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ranch On, come on, Yo sent this in thank you Rich.

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<v Speaker 2>We should call this episode grand Visions of stupidity.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, grand Visions of stupid men. And you could send

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<v Speaker 1>gmail dot com. We check it a little less often,

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<v Speaker 1>but we do check it. Wisconsin kayaker charged after official

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<v Speaker 1>say he faked his own death and fled to Eastern Europe. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a good one. This one babbles in the

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<v Speaker 1>murder banana territory.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always interesting when someone is just identified as kayaker.

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<v Speaker 2>A piece of information about this guy. That's all he does,

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<v Speaker 2>that's his whole personality. He's a kayaker.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did they check the rivers of Eastern Europe? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they're very nice there.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're talking about the flight discount website.

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<v Speaker 1>This was on CNN dot com, which is sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a light discount website written by three people. Obviously, Kurt,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't tackle a Wisconsin kayaker with just one set

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<v Speaker 1>of thinkies.

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<v Speaker 2>We got one person on the ground, we got one

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<v Speaker 2>person in the water, we got one person behind the keys.

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<v Speaker 1>Karina Suey, Amanda Musa, and Taylor Romine. Way to go, gals,

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<v Speaker 1>you really knock this one out of the park. Green

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<v Speaker 1>Lake County, Wisconsin. This one's got more twist and turns

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<v Speaker 1>than a saxophone. Kurt all Right Right, a Wisconsin man

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<v Speaker 1>who officials say faked his own death and fled to

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<v Speaker 1>eastern Europe, was charged with misdemeanor count of obstructing an

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<v Speaker 1>officer Wednesday after he turned himself back into authorities. Ryan Borgwart,

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<v Speaker 1>what a name?

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<v Speaker 2>Bordwart spell borg bo rg.

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<v Speaker 1>War dt.

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<v Speaker 2>It got even better.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a d Ryan Borgwart. I mean, you gotta love

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<v Speaker 1>somebody to marry him and be like I might be

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<v Speaker 1>become missus Borgwart. That's brutal. Ryan Borgwart, who was reported

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<v Speaker 1>missing in August, flew back to the United States willingly,

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<v Speaker 1>arriving on Tuesday, said Greenlink County Sheriff Mark Podole. Sheriff Poldole,

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<v Speaker 1>who remained tight lipped on why the man left his

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<v Speaker 1>wife and three children by allegedly staging a kayaking accident

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<v Speaker 1>where where he has been for the past four months.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition, in addition.

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<v Speaker 2>To giving his wife and children the name Borgwart, he

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<v Speaker 2>then abandons.

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<v Speaker 1>Them, bingo, oh, I do not like Borgwart. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>like this man. He came back on his own, Sheriff

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<v Speaker 1>Poe Dole said during a news conference. When asked by

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<v Speaker 1>media why Borgwart decided return, Podule added his family. I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm assuming that was his tone when he

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<v Speaker 1>said it, But that is.

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<v Speaker 2>That is why you need three reporters. You gotta get

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of quote.

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<v Speaker 1>So Borgwart's wife filed repetition for legal separation on Thursday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, so that's a wise move. In Wisconsin, a

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<v Speaker 1>legal separation does not end a marriage on like a divorce,

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<v Speaker 1>but allows the court to rule in the same issues

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<v Speaker 1>of an upcoming divorce proceeding.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what her last name is, because if her

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<v Speaker 2>last if they have a hyphen ended last name, and

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<v Speaker 2>her last name is like Alice.

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<v Speaker 1>Targlart Polywalk Borgwart Polywalk. Nice to meet you, Alice. You

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<v Speaker 1>can call me Alice BP. So yeah, Borgwart's wife is

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<v Speaker 1>requesting sole legal cut of their three teenage children. I

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<v Speaker 1>think so. Yeah. I think that seems like we should

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<v Speaker 1>granted that, and claimed that the twenty two marriage was

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<v Speaker 1>irretrievably broken. I can understand that too. Yep. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. I'm gonna skip a bunch of this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>Poldole Sheriff. Podole declined to share the details of Borgwart's

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<v Speaker 1>time away and whether he had been in touch with

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<v Speaker 1>his family. The investigation involved a number of state and

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<v Speaker 1>federal agencies, including the FBI and Homeland Security. Borgwart, who's

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<v Speaker 1>forty five years old, was reported missing August twelfth after

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<v Speaker 1>failing to return from a fishing trip on Green Lake,

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<v Speaker 1>about an hour north of his home in Watertown, Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 1>For seven weeks. Seven weeks in the Green Lake County

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<v Speaker 1>Sheriff's office search for Borgwart's body with help of trained volunteers,

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<v Speaker 1>but only found the man's kayak, a tackle box containing

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<v Speaker 1>his keys, his wallet, and his license. Wow, okay, suspicious.

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<v Speaker 2>How does he get to the Eastern Europe without any

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<v Speaker 2>of that?

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually, officials uncovered evidence that Borgwart had fled to Europe

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<v Speaker 1>by way of Canada. Investigators made contact with the father

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<v Speaker 1>of three on November eleventh, So August twelfth goes missing

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<v Speaker 1>a November eleventh, investigators make contact with the father when

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<v Speaker 1>they say they learned he executed a plan to fake

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<v Speaker 1>his own death for a quote number of reasons and

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<v Speaker 1>quote I would hope he had at least one reason. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to abandon your entire family. I have a punch what

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<v Speaker 1>this is. And the day he vanished, Borgwart traveled to

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<v Speaker 1>Green Lake, one of Wisconsin's deepest inland lakes. There you go,

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<v Speaker 1>who Okay, with the plan of faking his own drowning.

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<v Speaker 1>Who and Saripoldo detailed the man's scheme. The experienced kayaker

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<v Speaker 1>paddled out into the water, where he deliberately overturned the vessel,

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<v Speaker 1>tossed his phone, and returned to the shore in child

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<v Speaker 1>size inflatable boat. Okay, it couldn't just swam, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna He didn't want to get wet. Guy hates water,

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<v Speaker 1>he does. He hate Bourgwart hates water. Alice Pollywog can't get.

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<v Speaker 2>Enough of this stuff, and that is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>many reasons he chose to go to eastern Europe, just

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<v Speaker 2>more incompatible.

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<v Speaker 1>Borgwart then rode an e bike through the night. Kurt

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<v Speaker 1>just guess how many miles he rode through the night

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<v Speaker 1>on an e bike. You've written e bikes many times.

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<v Speaker 1>I have, I have all right through the night, through

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<v Speaker 1>the night. Yeah, eighty miles, good guess, eighty miles to Madison, Wisconsin,

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 1>go Badgers. Where then he boarded a bus to Detroit,

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 1>eventually crossing the Canadian border and flying to Europe. So

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:43.200
<v Speaker 1>that was his escape plan.

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:46.440
<v Speaker 2>So but I don't understand. I like, he has to

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 2>have his passport, it's immediately registered. Anybody does one search,

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 2>they know exactly where he went, what is his Is

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:54.639
<v Speaker 2>he just an idiot?

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I think they initially did think he was just dead

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:02.760
<v Speaker 1>and missing and didn't think to like searched Canada, like aha,

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:06.359
<v Speaker 1>what you McCall it customs or anything like that. So

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 1>before his disappearance, Borgwart transferred funds to a foreign bank account,

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:14.640
<v Speaker 1>changed his email, and communicated woman with a woman in Uzbekistan.

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh lord, the classic is Becha Stanic a criminal? That's

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 1>according to the sheriff. A criminal complaint filed Wednesday said

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Borgwart brought approximately five five dollars in cash with him. Okay.

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:36.879
<v Speaker 1>Investigators were ultimately able to contact Borgwark through Russian speak

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:40.160
<v Speaker 1>through a Russian speaking woman, though He declined to say

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>whether she was the woman he had been communicating with

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>in his Beekistan or whether he was with her. Burgwart

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.679
<v Speaker 1>told police he had heavily researched how to disappear by

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:53.359
<v Speaker 1>looking up previous disappearance cases, and that everything hinged on

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:56.240
<v Speaker 1>me dying in that lake, he said, And the whole

0:26:56.320 --> 0:27:01.679
<v Speaker 1>idea was to sell the death in January. I mean,

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>all our murder bananas they know this one. Yeah. In January,

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Borgwak took out a three hundred and seventy five thousand

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 1>dollars life insurance policy, which Poldol said was intended to

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:15.640
<v Speaker 1>help his family. So he's a thoughtful guy.

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 2>Oh, look very thoughtful. He wants to go boink in.

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 2>He's pekistan um but Cher.

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Poldol says that Borgwark has expressed regret for how he

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>hurt his family and also feels bad about the amount

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 1>of hours that he has put the community through.

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, come on, man, I am so excited for

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Borgwark to go to jail. I am very rarely excited

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 2>for someone to go to jail. I want him to

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 2>rot in jail.

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he'll go that long. I mean, I

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's like that big of a crime to

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:51.119
<v Speaker 1>be a dickhead. The long extensive search for Borgwark was

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>costly and emotional taxing. It was an endeavor for both

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:57.439
<v Speaker 1>his family and charch crews. Borgwalk previously told investigators they

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 1>thought that they would stop searching for him after two weeks.

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Potal said, quote, he picked the wrong sheriff and the

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 1>wrong department. They yeah, totaled for so long.

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 2>So total just sniffed something fishy. Huh, that's what he thought.

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:17.719
<v Speaker 2>He was just like this, done that up.

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So in October, so he disappeared in August and

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 1>October investigators learned from Canadian officials that Borgwart had entered

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:29.640
<v Speaker 1>the country on August thirteenth, so the next day after

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 1>the Drowningwart's passport was found at the family home. But

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 1>learned that after he left the country, they did a

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>deeper search on his computer and they found that he

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 1>had replaced his hard drive on his laptop, cleared his

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>browsing history on the Davis disappearance, and he had also

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>reported his passport stolen and obtained a replacement secretly last spring.

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>So oh, I see he had two passports. He lied

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 1>about losing one, so Yeah, that's.

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Uh, he's he's supposed to hit in his mind, the

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 2>person crossing is going to be the person who stole

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 2>his passport. Is that like what people are supposed to believe.

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Or they're just supposed to find his old passport in

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the house and not think I think he was just

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>really thought he would make it look like he died

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>in the one of the deepest lakes in Wisconsin.

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Is there any way? I mean, like, I guess there's

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 2>a way on some level to like to cross into Canada.

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Not at a checkpoint like through the woods, but it's

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 2>probably like a twenty mile at like the narrowest point,

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 2>like a twenty mile hike that you would have to do.

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>And the road is teenage will do it all the time.

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I have a few things. I think it's so doable. Sure,

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:43.719
<v Speaker 1>that's a huge border.

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 2>That's a huge border, right, so you can easily get

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 2>into Canada. How do you get to eastern Europe without

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 2>using a passport? Like a fishing boat, but still fishing

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 2>boats are checked when they come, Like, no, fishing boats

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 2>don't go from from.

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 1>One hell of a Canada. His solar powered I guess

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 1>the sailboat the coolest sailboat ever, But yeah, no, he flew.

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 1>He just had a passport. He just man and you Okay,

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>so what do you think happened? He fell in love

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>with catfish online? Right, don't you think it was catfish

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 1>or mat order something?

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Or it's just like a bot. It was just

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 2>an AI bot that he fell in love with. Yeah,

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 2>and then he decided to destroy his entire life.

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, blow up his whole life for a cam girl

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 1>bot in his Bekistan.

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 2>At forty five. Like sure, I'm sure he was very

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 2>unhappy in his life to lead him to do this.

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 2>But like at forty five, do you really you really

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 2>think you're going to start over and uz Bekistan? You

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 2>don't speak Russian? You don't speak Uzbek is Uzbeka language.

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 2>I bet you it is.

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I bet they have some dialect of Uzbek.

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't. I couldn't identify whoz Bekistan on a map,

0:30:58.680 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 2>could you.

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 1>I could put my hand on a globe and I

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>think I could cover it, but it would be my

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>whole hand hand fingers.

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Definitely could do that. I could put my whole hand there.

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I know the general reha Yeah it No, I could not.

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I so when I was right before you and I

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 1>left New York and moved to LA We had mutual

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 1>friends with a big group of dudes, but I wasn't

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>close enough to be in the wedding or anything. And

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>they all went to a bachelor party in November in

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Myrtle Beach. Okay, so not you know Myrtle Beach of

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina. But November is not worn. That is, the

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 1>beach is very shut down. The tourism is gone. I

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>don't think anybody's even playing miniature golf at that. What

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>year we talking about, twenty twenty eleven?

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 3>Got it?

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 1>So I had two friends that went on that trip.

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I had like five friends that went on the troop,

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>but two of them were named Thomas. Their names are

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>not really Thomas, ok. But two guys named Thomas and

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>good guys, funny guys. So there's nothing to do in

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 1>Myrtle Beach besides like eat steaks. I don't know. I

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>don't even know what you do. The weather was crap,

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 1>it was cold. And when they came back we met.

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>We met at Fourth Avenue Pub. Why did they go?

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 2>Do you know why they went?

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I think they had heard of it. I mean it

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 1>was a bachelor party. Was why they all went.

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 2>It was like, you know what I mean, like, but

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 2>why were Myrtle Beach in November?

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. I think maybe they heard that

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Myrtle Beach was awesome and they didn't realize it was

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>not that far south that it wasn't mean Miami.

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy, okay.

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Or maybe they were broke, I don't know. So they

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 1>go down and there there are adult clubs there, and

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I think they went to some strip clubs and two

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:52.680
<v Speaker 1>of the dancers apparently took a real shine to the

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Thomases because the Thomases were the most single dudes there.

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.239
<v Speaker 1>They were unmarried. I don't think they had girlfriends at

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>the time, And so for three nights in a row,

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>the guys went to the same strip club, Treasure Club,

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 1>and they both swore that the these two specific dancers

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 1>loved them. Yeah. Yeah, and the Thomas I knew better again.

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting this in Brooklyn when they all return back,

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 1>is devastated because on the third night, after spending fifteen

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars, he shot his shot and said, can I

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 1>have your number? Maybe you can come visit New York

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>or Brooklyn. Maybe I can come down here and she says,

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 1>of course, and gives him a fake telephone number. So

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 1>he is devastated, and we are all like, you fool.

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Part of the transaction in those places is for them

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>to make you think that they love you. And for

0:33:57.000 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 1>three nights he just dumped so much money to lap

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 1>dances and drinks and everything you do you want to hear?

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:09.280
<v Speaker 1>What's even more, bananaskart. Yeah, and the other Thomas married

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 1>his dancer months later in New York City and they

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:15.720
<v Speaker 1>are still together.

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:19.359
<v Speaker 2>They're still together, yes, and they live in New York.

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes. Because I we were like, dreams do come true exactly,

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Dreams do come true like a saxophone. Life has lots

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 1>of turns. And we were making so much fun of

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 1>my closer friend Thomas for falling for it and just

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.799
<v Speaker 1>blowing out all his money on a woman that will

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>never communicate in hopes to never see him again. And

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the other guy did it. He pulled off the impossible,

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and she came up and moved in with them, and

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 1>they got married within three months.

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh believe god, I love that song.

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I know it's kind of like So the moral is,

0:34:58.440 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>we don't know.

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 2>We don't know, There is no way, there is no

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:07.320
<v Speaker 2>moral either way. Everything's possible. Life is remember when you

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:13.680
<v Speaker 2>walk into a strip club, Guys, everything's possible. If you're

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 2>looking to get married, it could happened tonight or never

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:22.360
<v Speaker 2>and never, and don't fall for it, you stupid idiots.

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Don't be an idiot. They don't love you. But sometimes

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 1>sometimes do you live with you forever and be one

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 1>of the best things that ever happened to you. So

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:35.800
<v Speaker 1>it's really up to you. It's a coin toss, guys.

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Everything in life is a coin toss. The tide goes in,

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the tide goes out.

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Mmm mmmmmm. I'll tease this into a little thumb's ubsession,

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:54.479
<v Speaker 2>no thumbs up session. Who doesn't like that child tired

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 2>of waiting for mom crashes into daycare?

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, it's kids. They drive the darnedest things. I

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:05.919
<v Speaker 1>love them. Okay, I do have some good thumbs ups.

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 1>This one actually got an update since I put it

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 1>on my list, so I'll give you the update at

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:12.800
<v Speaker 1>the end. Larissa Cameron is a bananimal who lives in

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Jamaica and she works for the Peace Corps.

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, awesome.

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:20.839
<v Speaker 1>She's doing a fundraiser for a seedling nursery project where

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.280
<v Speaker 1>they're growing seed links. It makes it easier for farmers.

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:27.479
<v Speaker 1>They're basically going to retrofit greenhouses to grow seedlings, which

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>increases crop yield in Jamaica. Nice we donated, Kurt, I

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 1>donated on our behalf and ban animals. If you want to,

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I will put the link for Larissa's project in our

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 1>stories for a couple of days. But also Larissa says

0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 1>it got fully funded, so in the time, since I

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't have time to get to this one yet, she

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:52.279
<v Speaker 1>did let me know a couple days ago that it's

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:56.320
<v Speaker 1>fully funded. So congratulations, Larissa Cameron. I mean, working for

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 1>the Peace Corps alone is wonderful, but then also funding

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>this great thing that's gonna help farmers in Jamaica.

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thumbs ups, right on thumbs up.

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>May Bacon is thumbing up Kristin Shaw all right, a

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:12.800
<v Speaker 1>huge fan of her since Flay the Concords and Kristinshaw

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.879
<v Speaker 1>is a horse which Kurt invented with Kristin. May says,

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:18.279
<v Speaker 1>I know this isn't a real thumbs up, but if

0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I could say hi to Kristin on an EPP, I

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 1>would absolutely lose it. So May Bacon is saying hi,

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Kristin Shaw on bananas. I will tell her, we will

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 1>tell her We're going to watch the Oscars with her.

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Is that this Sunday?

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I believe it is. Oh boy, I know Maya Miller.

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:41.360
<v Speaker 1>There is a baker Kurd and she did send us

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 1>some gluten free banana cookies in the past and they

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 1>were delicious. So Maya, thank you so much. She's telling me. Yeah,

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 1>she's thumbing herself up for starting a new podcast for

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Love and Frosting and a blog with the same name

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 1>for Love and Frosting. She's also writing a new novel

0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 1>after self publishing a novel appast year called Waste to

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Say Goodbye. Maya's a very busy, smart person and if

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:10.399
<v Speaker 1>you love baking or reading, I would suggest you check

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 1>out the four Love and Frosting podcast and blog. That's

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 1>great thumbs up Maya.

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Or now what I was just thinking about it, Like

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:21.840
<v Speaker 2>with everything that we like, it's so cool. Self publishing

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:24.399
<v Speaker 2>is awesome in the fact that like, you can write something,

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 2>you can get it out there and it exists.

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 1>It's real, you know where it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Like all of these things we write, you and I

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<v Speaker 2>the hundreds and hundreds of pages that are read by

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 2>like four nerds at a network and then thrown in

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 2>the trash and they never go anywhere. It's infuriating. But

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 2>imagine if you just like, oh, yeah, go to my Amazon.

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 2>You can see all of my You can go to

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 2>see all of the scripts I wrote in the past

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:55.400
<v Speaker 2>ten years, that would be great. Be like, look at

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 2>that I did something. I didn't waste twelve years of

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 2>my life in Los Angeles just developing for idiots.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, that's right. There's a there's a series of like

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>storage locker things, big sort of walking closets on the

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Paramount Pictures lot, and every time I walk by it

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 1>to pitch, yeah, I have to not look at it

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 1>because apparently it is full of bought scripts that were

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 1>never produced, but Paramount didn't want other studios to have it.

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 1>So it is just like rows and rows and rows

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 1>of boxes and boxes and boxes of full feature screenplays

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>that were optioned or purchased and never shot.

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Think about that too. Before email, it was just a

0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 2>physical thing that a studio could put it to a

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:46.759
<v Speaker 2>cage and put a lock on.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy physical. So they were hiding it and locking

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<v Speaker 1>it away. I think some got ruined during a flood

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:54.719
<v Speaker 1>or rains or fire or something. But I'm like the

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 1>sheer amount of creative will power to sit down and write.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. And also, you know, like Ozarks, A lot

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>of people like the TV show Ozarks. The pilot script

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:07.360
<v Speaker 1>was just on a pile of failed scripts and Jason

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:09.839
<v Speaker 1>Bateman's manager read it was like maybe this and then

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:11.920
<v Speaker 1>brought it back to life like a decade after it

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:12.360
<v Speaker 1>was written.

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Wow, Black Monday was the same thing that Showtime show

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 2>that I was on was written ten years beforehand, and

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 2>like they went in to pitch a new idea and

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:29.359
<v Speaker 2>the assistant accidentally sent the old this script from ten

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 2>years ago, and they were like they sat down in

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 2>the pitch, like we read the script, we love the script,

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 2>and like, oh no, no that was no. Oh you're

0:40:36.640 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 2>talking about that. No, no, that's ten years ago.

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:38.879
<v Speaker 1>That's dead.

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 2>They're like, no, we want to buy it. And that's

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 2>how it happened. Yeah, because an assistant accidentally sent the

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:45.360
<v Speaker 2>wrong script.

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 1>And back to your original point, it's because they exist

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 1>in the world. So self publishing is so valuable because

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:52.239
<v Speaker 1>you never know who's going to read it and who's

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 1>going to go this was actually really good, So congratulations

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<v Speaker 1>Maya yeah, last, but not least, Georgie wants the thumb.

0:40:57.680 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Her big sister braun Up Bron introduced Georgie to bananas

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<v Speaker 1>during the Great Choir, and every few weeks one of

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 1>them would text the other asking did you listen to bananas?

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 1>And the other would reply with an episode specific quote

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.400
<v Speaker 1>like baby bird, whiskey in the mouth or eyes only

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 1>or whatever part they knew the other one would love.

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 1>So now they're closer than ever. And Georgie says they

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 1>grew up in a house that wasn't very emotional. You

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 1>really weren't supposed to express yourself. So Georgie wants to

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>say I love you. Bron to her, yay, oh that's lovely. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and those are the thumbs uppies.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic. All right, here we go. This is a child

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 2>tired of waiting for mom crashes into independent daycare. This

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<v Speaker 2>is on Fox four, written by Dave DeMarco and you Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>Best in the business.

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<v Speaker 2>This is an Independence Missouri. A woman is facing charges

0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 2>involving a car the crash into a daycare Wednesday, but

0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:58.879
<v Speaker 2>she wasn't one behind the wheel. Please say the driver

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 2>was an impatient eleven year old boy. Count on me

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<v Speaker 2>Academy near two ninety one and Gudgel.

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<v Speaker 1>Gudge Go Beautiful Gudge Goal.

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Gudgel remains partially closed from the crash, only serving younger

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 2>children on the north side of the building. The other

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:17.800
<v Speaker 2>half of the building's blocked off where a bush is

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 2>missing in front of the brick building and there's a

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 2>large crack and portion of the wall below the window

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:25.200
<v Speaker 2>is pushed in significantly. These people went and looked at this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, Hm, the window was pushed in. Okay, this

0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:30.359
<v Speaker 2>is a quote. The window was pushed in. It looks

0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 2>to me at least four inches or more because you

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 2>can see the edging there. So I think it's probably

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna cost a little bit to get fixed. Lisa Greenwall,

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:41.719
<v Speaker 2>who works at the salon next door, said they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even talk to anybody who works at the daycare.

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Salon workers they keep their eyes and ears wide open.

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<v Speaker 1>They are the original operators.

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<v Speaker 2>Police say a mother arrived around four pm to pick

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 2>up children at the daycare and left her eleven year

0:42:57.680 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 2>oldest son in the car.

0:42:59.280 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Quote.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's kind of scary leaving an eleven year old

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 2>char in the car. Car in eleven year old child

0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 2>in the car unattended. Charlene Williams says, nowhere is it

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:13.839
<v Speaker 2>explained who. Charlene Williams is a random person. Maybe she's

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:15.919
<v Speaker 2>at this line, maybe she's getting her hair done. She's

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:18.359
<v Speaker 2>just a person who has an opinion, and I would

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:24.320
<v Speaker 2>like to speak to that opinion. You these I have

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:27.879
<v Speaker 2>heard so many people like online, it's just this big.

0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 2>We've talked about it too. Sometimes you gotta leave a

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 2>kid in a car.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fine, eleven.

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Is like a I would say that's close to an

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 2>adult I've seen. Have you seen eleven year olds recently?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm terrified of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I am terrified of eleven and twelve year olds.

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<v Speaker 1>I crossed the street when I see him coming, I'm like,

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 1>oh my mean this.

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 2>The idea that you can't leave it. I'm not talking

0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 2>about leaving an infant in a in the car, locked

0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:58.399
<v Speaker 2>up while you go to the bar for two hours.

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking about that. I'm talking leaving a kid

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<v Speaker 2>in a car so you can run into the store

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 2>and get something. Life is so hard, you got to

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:08.880
<v Speaker 2>leave the kid in the car. Sometimes it's easy for

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 2>eleven year old. It's the kid's fault that I mean,

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 2>it's not the mom's fault. That kid got into the car.

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 2>This is what he said. Boy told police his mom

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 2>was taking too long inside, so he decided to drive off.

0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 2>He thought the car was in reverse, but because he's eleven, fine,

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 2>it was actually in drive and he crashed into the building. Thankfully,

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 2>no one was injured. I mean, that kid's an idiot.

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:36.360
<v Speaker 2>That kid should get in trouble, not the mom. Mom's

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:39.439
<v Speaker 2>just trying to get stuff done, just trying to live

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 2>her life. I'm on the mom's side one hundred percent.

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Don't think she should be. And they were gonna arrest her,

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:46.719
<v Speaker 2>they were gonna is.

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 1>A totally big kid, A big kid.

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Eleven is a big kid. Yeah, eleven is. You could

0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:56.160
<v Speaker 2>be left at home. I was definitely left.

0:44:56.600 --> 0:45:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh, we walked to school at after school. We would walk,

0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 1>just walk to my to my sister had a friend

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 1>whose mom watched us after school. We just walk, you know.

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm I oh the time my daughters seven. I'm

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:11.440
<v Speaker 2>about to let her do the banking for the family.

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 2>She's smarter than all of us.

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 1>She should she Yeah, she's better than turbotack. She's really good. Yeah,

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:23.360
<v Speaker 1>eleven's totally fine. Also, I will say and I know

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:26.399
<v Speaker 1>nothing of anything, of course, especially not being a parent.

0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 1>But like the length of time that you leave kids

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<v Speaker 1>in child seats are car seats now seems it's so long.

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 1>To me. It's I have a car like one hundred

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 1>pounds or something, one.

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Hundred and twenty pounds. My car seat is rated to

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:42.359
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and twenty pounds. It's like one of those

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 2>ones that like keeps changing, so like it starts off

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:47.480
<v Speaker 2>as like a backward facing seat for when they're infants,

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 2>and then you like racket it up and then put

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:50.839
<v Speaker 2>it on the back and then it's for kids until

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:54.200
<v Speaker 2>they're forty forty pounds, and then you don't have to

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 2>use like the five point straps. You can use the

0:45:56.680 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 2>strap from your car, and then you take the back

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 2>off and then it's just a booster seat until they're

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, eighteen years old and they.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay riding the car. That's what it seems like.

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't in a car seat everver. Was I in

0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:12.239
<v Speaker 2>two car accidents? Yes? Did I break my back, yes,

0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:13.799
<v Speaker 2>But I was never in one.

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you're not a dork, You're just a regular

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:18.640
<v Speaker 1>cool guy with a broken back.

0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm a cool dude, who knows what it's like to

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:24.000
<v Speaker 2>have a broken back when you're twelve.

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:27.720
<v Speaker 1>That's fine. No, I'm sure that they've saved countless lives

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and injuries. And also, I'm a pro helmet guy. I

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 1>will yell out the window and people wear a helmet

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:35.600
<v Speaker 1>when I see adults riding. Pro I'm in the city.

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:37.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm pro car seat.

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I do feel like it goes very very

0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:43.920
<v Speaker 1>long now, like I'm not. I'm a little surprised you

0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:46.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't say the eleven year old got out of his

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 1>car seat, got in the driver's seat and slammed into

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:52.799
<v Speaker 1>the salon. But also, I do I mean, like take care.

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but the car seat culture is probably what

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 2>made that kid not understand that it was in drive.

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, give them a little more responsibility so he

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of knows how to drive the car a little better. Right,

0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:05.759
<v Speaker 2>maybe he could get home.

0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 1>They need to make car seats. That becomes something else

0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:11.840
<v Speaker 1>that just seems like a I guess you give it

0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:14.200
<v Speaker 1>to friends who have children or something, But don't they

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 1>just get demolished with the nil a wafers yogurt and

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 1>what you can.

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Like, you can disassemble almost all of the pieces, and

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:27.439
<v Speaker 2>you can put the can't like the soft part into

0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:30.359
<v Speaker 2>a washing machine. Even after the wash it comes out

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:34.919
<v Speaker 2>and it looks like the ghosts of disgusting have been there.

0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:38.760
<v Speaker 2>You can just see outlines of like melted raisinets and stuff.

0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 1>They need to make them so that they become like

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 1>elevated planting beds. They need to make biodegradable children's car seats,

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:55.480
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm talking about. An easy one too.

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Made out of the stuff that egg cartons are made

0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:00.239
<v Speaker 2>out of, you know, so you can just get wet

0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:02.360
<v Speaker 2>and it dissolves. God, why do we have We're not

0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 2>using them for eggs, so why aren't we using them

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:05.760
<v Speaker 2>for car seats?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you? Okay, I mean not to be controversial, but.

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't like being controversial guys.

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 1>But these are vision huge visionary ideas from stupid man.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Talbert sent this in. Thank you, Chris Talbert. Oh boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I verified this one because when I saw pork Business

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<v Speaker 1>of pork business dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I would this is what this is.

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<v Speaker 2>I think pork business dot com could make a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of money or renting out email addresses to people, because

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<v Speaker 2>if I could say email me at pork at pork

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<v Speaker 2>business dots.

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<v Speaker 1>So happy, you would sell every pitch for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of your life. Like I just follow up, will send

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<v Speaker 1>you a script and it comes to Netflix from pork

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<v Speaker 1>at pork Business.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually gonna see if I could buy pork business

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<v Speaker 2>just different. Spell while you're reading this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you can always send your stories to pork

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<v Speaker 1>at pork business dot com. Oh my god, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I about have deleted the story. I was laughing so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>There it is, okay, okay again, this was sitting by

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<v Speaker 1>the Great Bananamal Chris Talbert. Thanks you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Oh wait, got it, pork business dot com. Make

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<v Speaker 2>it mine and it's b I z nyss.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm getting it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the article from Jennifer Shike at pork business dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Mission complete. Iowa man eats a pork tenderloin in all

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine Iowa counties. What this is a big one.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a big one. When JJ Goodwin revealed his

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<v Speaker 1>quest to eat a pork tenderloin in all ninety nine

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<v Speaker 1>Iowa counties. There were certainly a lot of people asking

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<v Speaker 1>the question, is he for real?

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<v Speaker 2>No one asked that question.

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<v Speaker 1>When here we go. I focused on pork tenderloins because

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably the most comferous. But it makes sense why

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<v Speaker 1>this story would be a pork business dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>It really does. This is the most pork business article

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<v Speaker 2>that pork business.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they've ever done. Even the Great pig Stampede of

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen eighties to would quite compete with JJ Goodvin.

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<v Speaker 1>I focused on pork tenderloines because it's probably the most

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<v Speaker 1>popular sandwich in Iowa, says Goodwin, who serves as the

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<v Speaker 1>chief explorer of the Iowa Gallivant, another website that I'm frequenting.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew it was going to be huge, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize it was going to be this huge. It

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<v Speaker 1>took off from video one. People were like, holy crap,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is doing it. And again, what he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>is he's needing a pork tenderlined sandwich in all ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine Iowa counties. First of all, didn't know there were

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine counties in Iowa. So it's an educational podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You're learning something every day. Since starting his Tenderloined tours

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<v Speaker 1>ten months ago, Goodvin's videos have accumulated more than twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight million views. That's a lot actually across his social

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<v Speaker 1>media platforms. I made a tentative list of where we

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<v Speaker 1>were going to go, but my list probably changed fifty

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<v Speaker 1>times because we let the locals guide us. The lows

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<v Speaker 1>very rarely steer you in the wrong direction. Good Vincent

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<v Speaker 1>and paid attention to the comments. Every single time we

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<v Speaker 1>put up a pork tenderloin. There was always comments on

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<v Speaker 1>other places we should go, and the engagement was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get pork at pork tenderline our pork business?

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<v Speaker 1>I got it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to screen grab it so I can send

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<v Speaker 2>you pork business dot com?

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<v Speaker 1>Is yours? Tell you? I'm pumped? Do you want what?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you what? Do you want your email address to be?

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<v Speaker 2>At pork tenderloin, tenderloin at perk pork Business.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't had so much fun in years.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that easy. It's good to have fun for

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<v Speaker 1>Woods Goods.

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<v Speaker 2>This this this episode really picked up on the last story. Yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>did I think I'm saying we got to call it pork.

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<v Speaker 2>At pork business dot com this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Switching it Up, We're switching it up. On February thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>he announced he will announce his favorite tender from the

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine counties visited. My biggest takeaway here is there's

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<v Speaker 1>great restaurants all over the place. I can't tell you

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<v Speaker 1>how many off the beaten path places we went to.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God, some restaurant, Goodvinstor has been away for people

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<v Speaker 1>far away to learn what pork tenderlines are true. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they're massive too. These things are hammered flat Kurt.

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<v Speaker 1>They're bigger than a dinner plate. These sandwiches, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a regular sized bun and then a home plate of

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<v Speaker 1>a baseball diamond size breaded pork tenderloin. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to see if there's one. Okay, here's the

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<v Speaker 1>last sentence of the article on pork business dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>Although he didn't share too many details from his travels

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<v Speaker 1>about what makes a great pork tender loin, he did

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<v Speaker 1>share one requirement. It has to be hot.

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<v Speaker 2>That that is a basic requirement of most foods.

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<v Speaker 1>At Goodvid just likes it coming out scorching hot, Kurt, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't want to. It's an old pork tender.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he described somewhere that I went over that

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<v Speaker 1>his preferred size are huge, elephant ear pork tender. Lloyd, Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>if we do a banana show in Iowa at any point,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm getting a pork tender loin when we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hell yeah, what's it? What's the city in Iowa?

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<v Speaker 1>Des Moines?

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<v Speaker 2>There we go, gotta go, I mean, Moin, Moin's pretty cool. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I like des Moines. I remember driving through there. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw this punk band Teenage Bottle Rocket at a like

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's called the gas Light in Des Moines,

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<v Speaker 2>driving cross country. They were great, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>well look at this little little Midwest punk rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I said, we go. Maybe we'll get a des

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<v Speaker 1>Moines show on the books at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it. I don't know, dm us if you

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<v Speaker 2>know what des Moines place?

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<v Speaker 1>Heck yeah, And I think that's it for us. Curdie

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<v Speaker 1>b Oh, yeah, that's it. That's it. That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, are you kidding? Made? We can't do email

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<v Speaker 2>us at Pork at Pork Business and tenderloin at pork

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<v Speaker 2>business dot com. Those will forward to the Bananas email.

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<v Speaker 2>If we can just say, send all your strange hues

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<v Speaker 2>to pork at pork business dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you now you've got to make business cards that

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<v Speaker 1>we can hand out a live shows of people.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're in the pork business together. This has been bananas.

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