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Speaker 2: I thought about doing something funny, right, having a headline

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Speaker 2: all about Adolph Sachs, the inventor of the saxophone.

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Speaker 1: I did not know that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I want a whole podcast, like a multi

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Speaker 1: Well, it's time to toot our own horns, because this

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Speaker 1: of the bananas Pot Cast.

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Speaker 3: Would you Billiant Pieces, Birthday, John Bananasa.

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Speaker 2: Guys, Goals, non binary pals, Welcome to Bananas. I am

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Speaker 1: I am Banana Boy number two. Scotti landis you know

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Speaker 1: for the next fifty one minutes, don't worry about the world,

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Speaker 1: fifty minutes and thirty seconds with the Banana Boys. We're

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Speaker 1: here to ease you through the cruel existence that we're

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Speaker 2: I am so excited just to be here in a

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Speaker 1: We a great guess, all wonderful, each better than the last,

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Speaker 1: You'd be surprised we reach out to pretty much all

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Speaker 2: A lot of people hear the name of the podcast

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Speaker 1: That's right, We're dumb on purpose. Speaking of which, Kurtie

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Speaker 2: Huge, Huge Phoenix. You gotta show up because this place

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Speaker 2: is gigantic. If we don't have it at least three

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Speaker 1: Well I'm going hard either way, and remember to bring

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Speaker 2: You're gonna be drinking. Then you're gonna be dripping back right.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, bring your confessions. We put a confessions box

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Speaker 2: And Cincinnati, Cincinnati. I have never been to Cincinnati in

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Speaker 1: Ranch On, come on, Yo sent this in thank you Rich.

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Speaker 2: We should call this episode grand Visions of stupidity.

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Speaker 1: Okay, grand Visions of stupid men. And you could send

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Speaker 1: Them, bingo, oh, I do not like Borgwart. We don't

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Speaker 1: Eventually, officials uncovered evidence that Borgwart had fled to Europe

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Speaker 1: a November eleventh, investigators make contact with the father when

437
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: they say they learned he executed a plan to fake

438
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: his own death for a quote number of reasons and

439
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 1: quote I would hope he had at least one reason. Yeah,

440
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: to abandon your entire family. I have a punch what

441
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: this is. And the day he vanished, Borgwart traveled to

442
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: Green Lake, one of Wisconsin's deepest inland lakes. There you go,

443
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,479
Speaker 1: who Okay, with the plan of faking his own drowning.

444
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: Who and Saripoldo detailed the man's scheme. The experienced kayaker

445
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: paddled out into the water, where he deliberately overturned the vessel,

446
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: tossed his phone, and returned to the shore in child

447
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: size inflatable boat. Okay, it couldn't just swam, but we're

448
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: gonna He didn't want to get wet. Guy hates water,

449
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: he does. He hate Bourgwart hates water. Alice Pollywog can't get.

450
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: Enough of this stuff, and that is one of the

451
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 2: many reasons he chose to go to eastern Europe, just

452
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: more incompatible.

453
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: Borgwart then rode an e bike through the night. Kurt

454
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: just guess how many miles he rode through the night

455
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: on an e bike. You've written e bikes many times.

456
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: I have, I have all right through the night, through

457
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: the night. Yeah, eighty miles, good guess, eighty miles to Madison, Wisconsin,

458
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: go Badgers. Where then he boarded a bus to Detroit,

459
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: eventually crossing the Canadian border and flying to Europe. So

460
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: that was his escape plan.

461
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: So but I don't understand. I like, he has to

462
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: have his passport, it's immediately registered. Anybody does one search,

463
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: they know exactly where he went, what is his Is

464
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 2: he just an idiot?

465
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: I think they initially did think he was just dead

466
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: and missing and didn't think to like searched Canada, like aha,

467
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: what you McCall it customs or anything like that. So

468
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: before his disappearance, Borgwart transferred funds to a foreign bank account,

469
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: changed his email, and communicated woman with a woman in Uzbekistan.

470
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: Oh lord, the classic is Becha Stanic a criminal? That's

471
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: according to the sheriff. A criminal complaint filed Wednesday said

472
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: Borgwart brought approximately five five dollars in cash with him. Okay.

473
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: Investigators were ultimately able to contact Borgwark through Russian speak

474
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: through a Russian speaking woman, though He declined to say

475
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: whether she was the woman he had been communicating with

476
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: in his Beekistan or whether he was with her. Burgwart

477
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: told police he had heavily researched how to disappear by

478
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: looking up previous disappearance cases, and that everything hinged on

479
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: me dying in that lake, he said, And the whole

480
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: idea was to sell the death in January. I mean,

481
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: all our murder bananas they know this one. Yeah. In January,

482
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: Borgwak took out a three hundred and seventy five thousand

483
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: dollars life insurance policy, which Poldol said was intended to

484
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: help his family. So he's a thoughtful guy.

485
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 2: Oh, look very thoughtful. He wants to go boink in.

486
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: He's pekistan um but Cher.

487
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: Poldol says that Borgwark has expressed regret for how he

488
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: hurt his family and also feels bad about the amount

489
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: of hours that he has put the community through.

490
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, man, I am so excited for

491
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 2: Borgwark to go to jail. I am very rarely excited

492
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: for someone to go to jail. I want him to

493
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 2: rot in jail.

494
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll go that long. I mean, I

495
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: don't think it's like that big of a crime to

496
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: be a dickhead. The long extensive search for Borgwark was

497
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: costly and emotional taxing. It was an endeavor for both

498
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: his family and charch crews. Borgwalk previously told investigators they

499
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: thought that they would stop searching for him after two weeks.

500
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: Potal said, quote, he picked the wrong sheriff and the

501
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: wrong department. They yeah, totaled for so long.

502
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: So total just sniffed something fishy. Huh, that's what he thought.

503
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 2: He was just like this, done that up.

504
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, So in October, so he disappeared in August and

505
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: October investigators learned from Canadian officials that Borgwart had entered

506
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: the country on August thirteenth, so the next day after

507
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: the Drowningwart's passport was found at the family home. But

508
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: learned that after he left the country, they did a

509
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: deeper search on his computer and they found that he

510
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: had replaced his hard drive on his laptop, cleared his

511
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: browsing history on the Davis disappearance, and he had also

512
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: reported his passport stolen and obtained a replacement secretly last spring.

513
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: So oh, I see he had two passports. He lied

514
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: about losing one, so Yeah, that's.

515
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: Uh, he's he's supposed to hit in his mind, the

516
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: person crossing is going to be the person who stole

517
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: his passport. Is that like what people are supposed to believe.

518
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: Or they're just supposed to find his old passport in

519
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: the house and not think I think he was just

520
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: really thought he would make it look like he died

521
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: in the one of the deepest lakes in Wisconsin.

522
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: Is there any way? I mean, like, I guess there's

523
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: a way on some level to like to cross into Canada.

524
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: Not at a checkpoint like through the woods, but it's

525
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: probably like a twenty mile at like the narrowest point,

526
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: like a twenty mile hike that you would have to do.

527
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: And the road is teenage will do it all the time.

528
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: I have a few things. I think it's so doable. Sure,

529
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 1: that's a huge border.

530
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: That's a huge border, right, so you can easily get

531
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: into Canada. How do you get to eastern Europe without

532
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: using a passport? Like a fishing boat, but still fishing

533
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: boats are checked when they come, Like, no, fishing boats

534
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: don't go from from.

535
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: One hell of a Canada. His solar powered I guess

536
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: the sailboat the coolest sailboat ever, But yeah, no, he flew.

537
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: He just had a passport. He just man and you Okay,

538
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: so what do you think happened? He fell in love

539
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: with catfish online? Right, don't you think it was catfish

540
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: or mat order something?

541
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

542
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Or it's just like a bot. It was just

543
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: an AI bot that he fell in love with. Yeah,

544
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: and then he decided to destroy his entire life.

545
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, blow up his whole life for a cam girl

546
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: bot in his Bekistan.

547
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: At forty five. Like sure, I'm sure he was very

548
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: unhappy in his life to lead him to do this.

549
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: But like at forty five, do you really you really

550
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: think you're going to start over and uz Bekistan? You

551
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: don't speak Russian? You don't speak Uzbek is Uzbeka language.

552
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: I bet you it is.

553
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: I bet they have some dialect of Uzbek.

554
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I couldn't identify whoz Bekistan on a map,

555
00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: could you.

556
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: I could put my hand on a globe and I

557
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: think I could cover it, but it would be my

558
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: whole hand hand fingers.

559
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: Definitely could do that. I could put my whole hand there.

560
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: I know the general reha Yeah it No, I could not.

561
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: I so when I was right before you and I

562
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: left New York and moved to LA We had mutual

563
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: friends with a big group of dudes, but I wasn't

564
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: close enough to be in the wedding or anything. And

565
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: they all went to a bachelor party in November in

566
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach. Okay, so not you know Myrtle Beach of

567
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: South Carolina. But November is not worn. That is, the

568
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: beach is very shut down. The tourism is gone. I

569
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: don't think anybody's even playing miniature golf at that. What

570
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: year we talking about, twenty twenty eleven?

571
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: Got it?

572
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: So I had two friends that went on that trip.

573
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: I had like five friends that went on the troop,

574
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: but two of them were named Thomas. Their names are

575
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: not really Thomas, ok. But two guys named Thomas and

576
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: good guys, funny guys. So there's nothing to do in

577
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach besides like eat steaks. I don't know. I

578
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: don't even know what you do. The weather was crap,

579
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: it was cold. And when they came back we met.

580
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: We met at Fourth Avenue Pub. Why did they go?

581
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: Do you know why they went?

582
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: I think they had heard of it. I mean it

583
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: was a bachelor party. Was why they all went.

584
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: It was like, you know what I mean, like, but

585
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: why were Myrtle Beach in November?

586
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I think maybe they heard that

587
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach was awesome and they didn't realize it was

588
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: not that far south that it wasn't mean Miami.

589
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: That's crazy, okay.

590
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: Or maybe they were broke, I don't know. So they

591
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: go down and there there are adult clubs there, and

592
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: I think they went to some strip clubs and two

593
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: of the dancers apparently took a real shine to the

594
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: Thomases because the Thomases were the most single dudes there.

595
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,239
Speaker 1: They were unmarried. I don't think they had girlfriends at

596
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: the time, And so for three nights in a row,

597
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: the guys went to the same strip club, Treasure Club,

598
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: and they both swore that the these two specific dancers

599
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: loved them. Yeah. Yeah, and the Thomas I knew better again.

600
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm getting this in Brooklyn when they all return back,

601
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: is devastated because on the third night, after spending fifteen

602
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, he shot his shot and said, can I

603
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: have your number? Maybe you can come visit New York

604
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: or Brooklyn. Maybe I can come down here and she says,

605
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: of course, and gives him a fake telephone number. So

606
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: he is devastated, and we are all like, you fool.

607
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: Part of the transaction in those places is for them

608
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: to make you think that they love you. And for

609
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: three nights he just dumped so much money to lap

610
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: dances and drinks and everything you do you want to hear?

611
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: What's even more, bananaskart. Yeah, and the other Thomas married

612
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: his dancer months later in New York City and they

613
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 1: are still together.

614
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 2: They're still together, yes, and they live in New York.

615
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: Yes. Because I we were like, dreams do come true exactly,

616
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: Dreams do come true like a saxophone. Life has lots

617
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: of turns. And we were making so much fun of

618
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: my closer friend Thomas for falling for it and just

619
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: blowing out all his money on a woman that will

620
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: never communicate in hopes to never see him again. And

621
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: the other guy did it. He pulled off the impossible,

622
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: and she came up and moved in with them, and

623
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: they got married within three months.

624
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: Oh believe god, I love that song.

625
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: I know it's kind of like So the moral is,

626
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: we don't know.

627
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: We don't know, There is no way, there is no

628
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: moral either way. Everything's possible. Life is remember when you

629
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: walk into a strip club, Guys, everything's possible. If you're

630
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: looking to get married, it could happened tonight or never

631
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 2: and never, and don't fall for it, you stupid idiots.

632
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: Don't be an idiot. They don't love you. But sometimes

633
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: sometimes do you live with you forever and be one

634
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: of the best things that ever happened to you. So

635
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: it's really up to you. It's a coin toss, guys.

636
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: Everything in life is a coin toss. The tide goes in,

637
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: the tide goes out.

638
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: Mmm mmmmmm. I'll tease this into a little thumb's ubsession,

639
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,479
Speaker 2: no thumbs up session. Who doesn't like that child tired

640
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: of waiting for mom crashes into daycare?

641
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's kids. They drive the darnedest things. I

642
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 1: love them. Okay, I do have some good thumbs ups.

643
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: This one actually got an update since I put it

644
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: on my list, so I'll give you the update at

645
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: the end. Larissa Cameron is a bananimal who lives in

646
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: Jamaica and she works for the Peace Corps.

647
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: Okay, awesome.

648
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: She's doing a fundraiser for a seedling nursery project where

649
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: they're growing seed links. It makes it easier for farmers.

650
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,479
Speaker 1: They're basically going to retrofit greenhouses to grow seedlings, which

651
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: increases crop yield in Jamaica. Nice we donated, Kurt, I

652
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Speaker 1: donated on our behalf and ban animals. If you want to,

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Speaker 1: I will put the link for Larissa's project in our

654
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Speaker 1: stories for a couple of days. But also Larissa says

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Speaker 1: it got fully funded, so in the time, since I

656
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Speaker 1: didn't have time to get to this one yet, she

657
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Speaker 1: did let me know a couple days ago that it's

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Speaker 1: fully funded. So congratulations, Larissa Cameron. I mean, working for

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Speaker 1: the Peace Corps alone is wonderful, but then also funding

660
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Speaker 1: this great thing that's gonna help farmers in Jamaica.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thumbs ups, right on thumbs up.

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Speaker 1: May Bacon is thumbing up Kristin Shaw all right, a

663
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Speaker 1: huge fan of her since Flay the Concords and Kristinshaw

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Speaker 1: is a horse which Kurt invented with Kristin. May says,

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Speaker 1: I know this isn't a real thumbs up, but if

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Speaker 1: I could say hi to Kristin on an EPP, I

667
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Speaker 1: would absolutely lose it. So May Bacon is saying hi,

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Speaker 1: Kristin Shaw on bananas. I will tell her, we will

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Speaker 1: tell her We're going to watch the Oscars with her.

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Speaker 2: Is that this Sunday?

671
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Speaker 1: I believe it is. Oh boy, I know Maya Miller.

672
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: There is a baker Kurd and she did send us

673
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Speaker 1: some gluten free banana cookies in the past and they

674
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Speaker 1: were delicious. So Maya, thank you so much. She's telling me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she's thumbing herself up for starting a new podcast for

676
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Speaker 1: Love and Frosting and a blog with the same name

677
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: for Love and Frosting. She's also writing a new novel

678
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: after self publishing a novel appast year called Waste to

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Speaker 1: Say Goodbye. Maya's a very busy, smart person and if

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Speaker 1: you love baking or reading, I would suggest you check

681
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Speaker 1: out the four Love and Frosting podcast and blog. That's

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Speaker 1: great thumbs up Maya.

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00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: Or now what I was just thinking about it, Like

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Speaker 2: with everything that we like, it's so cool. Self publishing

685
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 2: is awesome in the fact that like, you can write something,

686
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: you can get it out there and it exists.

687
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: It's real, you know where it's.

688
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: Like all of these things we write, you and I

689
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: the hundreds and hundreds of pages that are read by

690
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Speaker 2: like four nerds at a network and then thrown in

691
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Speaker 2: the trash and they never go anywhere. It's infuriating. But

692
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Speaker 2: imagine if you just like, oh, yeah, go to my Amazon.

693
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Speaker 2: You can see all of my You can go to

694
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Speaker 2: see all of the scripts I wrote in the past

695
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Speaker 2: ten years, that would be great. Be like, look at

696
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Speaker 2: that I did something. I didn't waste twelve years of

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Speaker 2: my life in Los Angeles just developing for idiots.

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's right. There's a there's a series of like

699
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Speaker 1: storage locker things, big sort of walking closets on the

700
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Speaker 1: Paramount Pictures lot, and every time I walk by it

701
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: to pitch, yeah, I have to not look at it

702
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: because apparently it is full of bought scripts that were

703
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Speaker 1: never produced, but Paramount didn't want other studios to have it.

704
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: So it is just like rows and rows and rows

705
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: of boxes and boxes and boxes of full feature screenplays

706
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: that were optioned or purchased and never shot.

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Speaker 2: Think about that too. Before email, it was just a

708
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Speaker 2: physical thing that a studio could put it to a

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Speaker 2: cage and put a lock on.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy physical. So they were hiding it and locking

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Speaker 1: it away. I think some got ruined during a flood

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Speaker 1: or rains or fire or something. But I'm like the

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Speaker 1: sheer amount of creative will power to sit down and write.

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Speaker 1: I mean. And also, you know, like Ozarks, A lot

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Speaker 1: of people like the TV show Ozarks. The pilot script

716
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: was just on a pile of failed scripts and Jason

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00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: Bateman's manager read it was like maybe this and then

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Speaker 1: brought it back to life like a decade after it

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Speaker 1: was written.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Black Monday was the same thing that Showtime show

721
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Speaker 2: that I was on was written ten years beforehand, and

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Speaker 2: like they went in to pitch a new idea and

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Speaker 2: the assistant accidentally sent the old this script from ten

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Speaker 2: years ago, and they were like they sat down in

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Speaker 2: the pitch, like we read the script, we love the script,

726
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Speaker 2: and like, oh no, no that was no. Oh you're

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Speaker 2: talking about that. No, no, that's ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: That's dead.

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Speaker 2: They're like, no, we want to buy it. And that's

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Speaker 2: how it happened. Yeah, because an assistant accidentally sent the

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Speaker 2: wrong script.

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Speaker 1: And back to your original point, it's because they exist

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Speaker 1: in the world. So self publishing is so valuable because

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Speaker 1: you never know who's going to read it and who's

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Speaker 1: going to go this was actually really good, So congratulations

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Speaker 1: Maya yeah, last, but not least, Georgie wants the thumb.

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Speaker 1: Her big sister braun Up Bron introduced Georgie to bananas

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Speaker 1: during the Great Choir, and every few weeks one of

739
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Speaker 1: them would text the other asking did you listen to bananas?

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Speaker 1: And the other would reply with an episode specific quote

741
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: like baby bird, whiskey in the mouth or eyes only

742
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Speaker 1: or whatever part they knew the other one would love.

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Speaker 1: So now they're closer than ever. And Georgie says they

744
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: grew up in a house that wasn't very emotional. You

745
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: really weren't supposed to express yourself. So Georgie wants to

746
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Speaker 1: say I love you. Bron to her, yay, oh that's lovely. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and those are the thumbs uppies.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. All right, here we go. This is a child

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Speaker 2: tired of waiting for mom crashes into independent daycare. This

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Speaker 2: is on Fox four, written by Dave DeMarco and you Dave.

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Speaker 1: Best in the business.

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Speaker 2: This is an Independence Missouri. A woman is facing charges

753
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Speaker 2: involving a car the crash into a daycare Wednesday, but

754
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Speaker 2: she wasn't one behind the wheel. Please say the driver

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Speaker 2: was an impatient eleven year old boy. Count on me

756
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Speaker 2: Academy near two ninety one and Gudgel.

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Speaker 1: Gudge Go Beautiful Gudge Goal.

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Speaker 2: Gudgel remains partially closed from the crash, only serving younger

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Speaker 2: children on the north side of the building. The other

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Speaker 2: half of the building's blocked off where a bush is

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Speaker 2: missing in front of the brick building and there's a

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Speaker 2: large crack and portion of the wall below the window

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Speaker 2: is pushed in significantly. These people went and looked at this.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking, Hm, the window was pushed in. Okay, this

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Speaker 2: is a quote. The window was pushed in. It looks

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Speaker 2: to me at least four inches or more because you

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Speaker 2: can see the edging there. So I think it's probably

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Speaker 2: gonna cost a little bit to get fixed. Lisa Greenwall,

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Speaker 2: who works at the salon next door, said they didn't

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Speaker 2: even talk to anybody who works at the daycare.

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Speaker 1: Salon workers they keep their eyes and ears wide open.

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Speaker 1: They are the original operators.

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Speaker 2: Police say a mother arrived around four pm to pick

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Speaker 2: up children at the daycare and left her eleven year

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Speaker 2: oldest son in the car.

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Speaker 1: Quote.

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Speaker 2: It's it's kind of scary leaving an eleven year old

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Speaker 2: char in the car. Car in eleven year old child

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Speaker 2: in the car unattended. Charlene Williams says, nowhere is it

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Speaker 2: explained who. Charlene Williams is a random person. Maybe she's

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Speaker 2: at this line, maybe she's getting her hair done. She's

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Speaker 2: just a person who has an opinion, and I would

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Speaker 2: like to speak to that opinion. You these I have

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Speaker 2: heard so many people like online, it's just this big.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about it too. Sometimes you gotta leave a

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Speaker 2: kid in a car.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fine, eleven.

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Speaker 2: Is like a I would say that's close to an

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Speaker 2: adult I've seen. Have you seen eleven year olds recently?

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Speaker 1: I'm terrified of them.

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Speaker 2: I am terrified of eleven and twelve year olds.

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Speaker 1: I crossed the street when I see him coming, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: oh my mean this.

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Speaker 2: The idea that you can't leave it. I'm not talking

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Speaker 2: about leaving an infant in a in the car, locked

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Speaker 2: up while you go to the bar for two hours.

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about that. I'm talking leaving a kid

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Speaker 2: in a car so you can run into the store

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Speaker 2: and get something. Life is so hard, you got to

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Speaker 2: leave the kid in the car. Sometimes it's easy for

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Speaker 2: eleven year old. It's the kid's fault that I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's not the mom's fault. That kid got into the car.

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Speaker 2: This is what he said. Boy told police his mom

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Speaker 2: was taking too long inside, so he decided to drive off.

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Speaker 2: He thought the car was in reverse, but because he's eleven, fine,

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Speaker 2: it was actually in drive and he crashed into the building. Thankfully,

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Speaker 2: no one was injured. I mean, that kid's an idiot.

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Speaker 2: That kid should get in trouble, not the mom. Mom's

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Speaker 2: just trying to get stuff done, just trying to live

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Speaker 2: her life. I'm on the mom's side one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Don't think she should be. And they were gonna arrest her,

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Speaker 2: they were gonna is.

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Speaker 1: A totally big kid, A big kid.

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Speaker 2: Eleven is a big kid. Yeah, eleven is. You could

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Speaker 2: be left at home. I was definitely left.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we walked to school at after school. We would walk,

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Speaker 1: just walk to my to my sister had a friend

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Speaker 1: whose mom watched us after school. We just walk, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I oh the time my daughters seven. I'm

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Speaker 2: about to let her do the banking for the family.

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Speaker 2: She's smarter than all of us.

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Speaker 1: She should she Yeah, she's better than turbotack. She's really good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: eleven's totally fine. Also, I will say and I know

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Speaker 1: nothing of anything, of course, especially not being a parent.

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Speaker 1: But like the length of time that you leave kids

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Speaker 1: in child seats are car seats now seems it's so long.

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Speaker 1: To me. It's I have a car like one hundred

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Speaker 1: pounds or something, one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred and twenty pounds. My car seat is rated to

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty pounds. It's like one of those

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Speaker 2: ones that like keeps changing, so like it starts off

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Speaker 2: as like a backward facing seat for when they're infants,

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Speaker 2: and then you like racket it up and then put

834
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Speaker 2: it on the back and then it's for kids until

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Speaker 2: they're forty forty pounds, and then you don't have to

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Speaker 2: use like the five point straps. You can use the

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Speaker 2: strap from your car, and then you take the back

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Speaker 2: off and then it's just a booster seat until they're

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Speaker 2: I don't know, eighteen years old and they.

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Speaker 1: Stay riding the car. That's what it seems like.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't in a car seat everver. Was I in

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Speaker 2: two car accidents? Yes? Did I break my back, yes,

843
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 2: But I was never in one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're not a dork, You're just a regular

845
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Speaker 1: cool guy with a broken back.

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Speaker 2: I'm a cool dude, who knows what it's like to

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Speaker 2: have a broken back when you're twelve.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. No, I'm sure that they've saved countless lives

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Speaker 1: and injuries. And also, I'm a pro helmet guy. I

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Speaker 1: will yell out the window and people wear a helmet

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Speaker 1: when I see adults riding. Pro I'm in the city.

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Speaker 2: I'm pro car seat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do feel like it goes very very

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Speaker 1: long now, like I'm not. I'm a little surprised you

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Speaker 1: didn't say the eleven year old got out of his

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Speaker 1: car seat, got in the driver's seat and slammed into

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Speaker 1: the salon. But also, I do I mean, like take care.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but the car seat culture is probably what

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Speaker 2: made that kid not understand that it was in drive.

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Speaker 2: You know, give them a little more responsibility so he

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Speaker 2: kind of knows how to drive the car a little better. Right,

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Speaker 2: maybe he could get home.

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Speaker 1: They need to make car seats. That becomes something else

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Speaker 1: that just seems like a I guess you give it

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Speaker 1: to friends who have children or something, But don't they

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Speaker 1: just get demolished with the nil a wafers yogurt and

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Speaker 1: what you can.

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Speaker 2: Like, you can disassemble almost all of the pieces, and

869
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 2: you can put the can't like the soft part into

870
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 2: a washing machine. Even after the wash it comes out

871
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 2: and it looks like the ghosts of disgusting have been there.

872
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 2: You can just see outlines of like melted raisinets and stuff.

873
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: They need to make them so that they become like

874
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: elevated planting beds. They need to make biodegradable children's car seats,

875
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. An easy one too.

876
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: Made out of the stuff that egg cartons are made

877
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: out of, you know, so you can just get wet

878
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 2: and it dissolves. God, why do we have We're not

879
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 2: using them for eggs, so why aren't we using them

880
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 2: for car seats?

881
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: Thank you? Okay, I mean not to be controversial, but.

882
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: I don't like being controversial guys.

883
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: But these are vision huge visionary ideas from stupid man.

884
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: Chris Talbert sent this in. Thank you, Chris Talbert. Oh boy,

885
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: I just got myself. This was This was on Kurt's

886
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: favorite website. Uh, pork business dot com. Come on, come on,

887
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: it was a pork business dot com written by the

888
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Speaker 1: best in the pork biz, Jennifer Shike.

889
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: Is it really about the pork business or it is

890
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: we given the business to the pork. Now it's really

891
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: about the pork business.

892
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: It is, and I could this is a true story.

893
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: I verified this one because when I saw pork Business

894
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Speaker 1: dot Com. Oh man, I'm glad I didn't open it

895
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Speaker 1: on a work computer.

896
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: And then sometimes an episode just gives you a just

897
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: a wealth of different titles, and pork business dot Com

898
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: could also be a great title for this episode.

899
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: It could have been the it could have been where

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00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: my friend Thomas's fell in love with the dancers at

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Speaker 1: business business dot com. And I'm not talking about the

902
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: dancers hell Man, Jennifer Shyke pork business dot com.

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00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: Do you think the person who started pork business dot

904
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: com he's They got to be proud, right that they

905
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: like there. They put a lot of time and effort

906
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 2: into pork business dot Com. And they must have like cards, right,

907
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: they have calling cards that say like great great gene. Yeah,

908
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: the pork business gene at pork business dot com. Just

909
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: give me an email over that gen at pork business

910
00:49:59,560 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 2: dot com.

911
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: They probably sell advertising. I mean, there's probably a few

912
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: people that pay their mortgage and their car payments because

913
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: of pork business dot Com.

914
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: You know what I would this is what this is.

915
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: I think pork business dot com could make a lot

916
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 2: of money or renting out email addresses to people, because

917
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: if I could say email me at pork at pork

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00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: business dots.

919
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: So happy, you would sell every pitch for the rest

920
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: of your life. Like I just follow up, will send

921
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: you a script and it comes to Netflix from pork

922
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: at pork Business.

923
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna see if I could buy pork business

924
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: just different. Spell while you're reading this.

925
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can always send your stories to pork

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Speaker 1: at pork business dot com. Oh my god, I think

927
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: I about have deleted the story. I was laughing so hard.

928
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Speaker 1: There it is, okay, okay again, this was sitting by

929
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Speaker 1: the Great Bananamal Chris Talbert. Thanks you.

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00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 2: Okay. Oh wait, got it, pork business dot com. Make

931
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Speaker 2: it mine and it's b I z nyss.

932
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: That's fine.

933
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting it right now.

934
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Speaker 1: Here's the article from Jennifer Shike at pork business dot com.

935
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Speaker 1: Mission complete. Iowa man eats a pork tenderloin in all

936
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Speaker 1: ninety nine Iowa counties. What this is a big one.

937
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: This is a big one. When JJ Goodwin revealed his

938
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Speaker 1: quest to eat a pork tenderloin in all ninety nine

939
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: Iowa counties. There were certainly a lot of people asking

940
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,959
Speaker 1: the question, is he for real?

941
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: No one asked that question.

942
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: When here we go. I focused on pork tenderloins because

943
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: it's probably the most comferous. But it makes sense why

944
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: this story would be a pork business dot com.

945
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 2: It really does. This is the most pork business article

946
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: that pork business.

947
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've ever done. Even the Great pig Stampede of

948
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties to would quite compete with JJ Goodvin.

949
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: I focused on pork tenderloines because it's probably the most

950
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: popular sandwich in Iowa, says Goodwin, who serves as the

951
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: chief explorer of the Iowa Gallivant, another website that I'm frequenting.

952
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: I knew it was going to be huge, but I

953
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: didn't realize it was going to be this huge. It

954
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: took off from video one. People were like, holy crap,

955
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: this guy is doing it. And again, what he's doing

956
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: is he's needing a pork tenderlined sandwich in all ninety

957
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: nine Iowa counties. First of all, didn't know there were

958
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: ninety nine counties in Iowa. So it's an educational podcast.

959
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: You're learning something every day. Since starting his Tenderloined tours

960
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: ten months ago, Goodvin's videos have accumulated more than twenty

961
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: eight million views. That's a lot actually across his social

962
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: media platforms. I made a tentative list of where we

963
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: were going to go, but my list probably changed fifty

964
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: times because we let the locals guide us. The lows

965
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: very rarely steer you in the wrong direction. Good Vincent

966
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: and paid attention to the comments. Every single time we

967
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: put up a pork tenderloin. There was always comments on

968
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: other places we should go, and the engagement was unbelievable.

969
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 1: Did you get pork at pork tenderline our pork business?

970
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: I got it.

971
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm trying to screen grab it so I can send

972
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: you pork business dot com?

973
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: Is yours? Tell you? I'm pumped? Do you want what?

974
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 2: Do you what? Do you want your email address to be?

975
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 2: At pork tenderloin, tenderloin at perk pork Business.

976
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: I haven't.

977
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 2: I haven't had so much fun in years.

978
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: It's just that easy. It's good to have fun for

979
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: Woods Goods.

980
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: This this this episode really picked up on the last story. Yeah, sure,

981
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 2: did I think I'm saying we got to call it pork.

982
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 2: At pork business dot com this episode.

983
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: Switching it Up, We're switching it up. On February thirteenth,

984
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: he announced he will announce his favorite tender from the

985
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: ninety nine counties visited. My biggest takeaway here is there's

986
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: great restaurants all over the place. I can't tell you

987
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: how many off the beaten path places we went to.

988
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: Oh God, some restaurant, Goodvinstor has been away for people

989
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: far away to learn what pork tenderlines are true. I

990
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: mean they're massive too. These things are hammered flat Kurt.

991
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: They're bigger than a dinner plate. These sandwiches, it's like

992
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: a regular sized bun and then a home plate of

993
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: a baseball diamond size breaded pork tenderloin. Oh my god,

994
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see if there's one. Okay, here's the

995
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: last sentence of the article on pork business dot Com.

996
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: Although he didn't share too many details from his travels

997
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: about what makes a great pork tender loin, he did

998
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: share one requirement. It has to be hot.

999
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 2: That that is a basic requirement of most foods.

1000
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: At Goodvid just likes it coming out scorching hot, Kurt, I.

1001
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: Don't want to. It's an old pork tender.

1002
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: I think he described somewhere that I went over that

1003
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: his preferred size are huge, elephant ear pork tender. Lloyd, Honestly,

1004
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: if we do a banana show in Iowa at any point,

1005
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm getting a pork tender loin when we go.

1006
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, what's it? What's the city in Iowa?

1007
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: Des Moines?

1008
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 2: There we go, gotta go, I mean, Moin, Moin's pretty cool. Actually,

1009
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Speaker 2: I like des Moines. I remember driving through there. I

1010
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Speaker 2: saw this punk band Teenage Bottle Rocket at a like

1011
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 2: I think it's called the gas Light in Des Moines,

1012
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 2: driving cross country. They were great, and I was like,

1013
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 2: well look at this little little Midwest punk rock.

1014
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, we go. Maybe we'll get a des

1015
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: Moines show on the books at some point.

1016
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 2: Let's do it. I don't know, dm us if you

1017
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 2: know what des Moines place?

1018
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: Heck yeah, And I think that's it for us. Curdie

1019
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: b Oh, yeah, that's it. That's it. That's it.

1020
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Speaker 2: I mean, are you kidding? Made? We can't do email

1021
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 2: us at Pork at Pork Business and tenderloin at pork

1022
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Speaker 2: business dot com. Those will forward to the Bananas email.

1023
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 2: If we can just say, send all your strange hues

1024
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Speaker 2: to pork at pork business dot com.

1025
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: Well you now you've got to make business cards that

1026
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Speaker 1: we can hand out a live shows of people.

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Speaker 3: You know.

1028
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Speaker 1: Now we're in the pork business together. This has been bananas.

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Speaker 1: Bananas is an exactly right media production.

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Speaker 2: Our producer and engineer is Katie Levine.

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Speaker 1: The catchy Bananas theme song was composed and performed by Kahon.

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Speaker 2: Artwork for Bananas was designed by Travis Millard, and.

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Speaker 1: Our benevolent overlords are the great Karen Kilgareff and Georgia

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Speaker 1: Hartstart

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Speaker 2: And Lisa Maggott is our full human, not a robot

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Speaker 2: intern