1 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: with a guy who's not as fast as he thinks 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: in the Fred smoot and one of my favorite guys 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: ever played with guy he is. 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 2: As fast as don't worry about it. 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: That's all right, Okay, we're gonna get there. So how 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: was the weekend? 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: Ben? 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: Everything going good? 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: Man? Life is great? 11 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: Oh dude, how's your daughter doing? Because she's got that best. 12 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,319 Speaker 3: She's ranked number seven in the state of Virginia as 13 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: a point grade hid greater and she's ranked number seven 14 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: out of all like out of twelfth grade, eleventh grade. 15 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: She is shooting guarder, she's a point going and she's 16 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: five nine. 17 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 4: I bet she got more gain. 18 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 3: You could just swow you head man. Seeople need to understand. 19 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 3: I played ball at Mississippi State. 20 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: Too, like you played basketball Missippi State. 21 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: They did the lie that they do it all us 22 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: on sign and that right, we're gonna sign you to 23 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: a dual scholarship. 24 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: You're gonna play a point going in ConA. Ben, you 25 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: know how they do that. 26 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: They let me practice like I prayed, like two weeks 27 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: after the football season. 28 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 2: I actually got to play against Arkansas. 29 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 3: A little bit, But yeah, I was a basket. I 30 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 3: was always built like a basketball. 31 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: What did you uh, what position did you play? 32 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: Pot? Go? 33 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: And then like how did you play in that game? 34 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: We get turkey, Well we think about it is. 35 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: I was a mixture between they used to call me 36 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: Russell Curry. I was a mix between stiff Curry and you. 37 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: Can't be Russell Curry because they came after you're older 38 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: than Fred. 39 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 4: No. 40 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 2: No, I shot the three. 41 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: Like my coach be like, why to hear you shoot 42 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: so bit of three? I like this the quickest way 43 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: to thirty points. I don't need to I don't need 44 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 3: to take a ten shot. 45 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: You're ahead of your time. 46 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 2: I was ahead of my time. 47 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: Ninten, How you doing? Man? 48 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 4: Like I could believe everything you said? Yeah, the quickest 49 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 4: way to thirty points? 50 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: Shots sun shots by man. 51 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 4: Look you know me, man, I keep it. Covid steading 52 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 4: over Koba. 53 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: All right, So we just finished up with kind of 54 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: OTA's mini camp off season. Right now we're gonna do 55 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: some training camp Superlative Social Awards and then who we 56 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: hope kind of wins. He's kind of looking at it 57 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: based on Mini camp ot as looking to training camp 58 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: what's going on? So the first one we got, it's 59 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: got that swagger, It's got that swagger. Something about that guy, 60 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: and you just you just fired up to see him 61 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: in training camp. Who you got? 62 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 4: Who got? You know, I'm gonna stick on the offensive side. 63 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 4: You know a guy that walked that walk. I don't 64 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 4: have to talk that talk. It's something about Terry. 65 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: Something about Terry. 66 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 4: I'm a big Jahann fan when it comes to just 67 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 4: his natural ability to be a receiver. I feel like 68 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 4: that guy is just like if you say, if you 69 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 4: had to pick Jahann and say name Jahann to be 70 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 4: like one of your favorite artists or you know, you 71 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 4: know musicians that has just like the it factor, he 72 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 4: would be like Tupac to me, I'm gonna tell you 73 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 4: why not not because of how how loud he was 74 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: just charismatic, you know what I mean. Just he was 75 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 4: so he confident in what he can do. 76 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: You know. 77 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 4: But Terry is just like it ain't even about swagger. 78 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 4: It's just like he's laying up on the field. I 79 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 4: got you like, Bro, you look at Terry and you 80 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: can watch him all week in film and say, Okay, 81 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,119 Speaker 4: I see what he's doing on that together. 82 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: And then the game you can't no answer for it, you. 83 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 4: Still can't stop it. So I feel like his game swag. 84 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 4: And we look at swag as how I got carried Ussel. 85 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 4: He looks he's a tired. I'm talking about just a 86 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 4: guy that just know I'm dominant. That's a swagger to 87 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 4: to me, He's just a dominant person. He's a dominant 88 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 4: human being that any any way possible, he gonna get 89 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 4: the job done. 90 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: And he doesn't really have that like traditional like dominant swagger, 91 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He's just he just does. 92 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: A cool, humble dude, but he's just confident and sure 93 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 4: about himself, like he knows he's gonna dominate because he studied, 94 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. He's one of those guys 95 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: he knows you before before you probably even know yourself, 96 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. He's going to study that 97 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 4: guy he's going against and he's gonna he's gonna defeat him. 98 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: Every time. 99 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: Tell you who got this swag coming out of from 100 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: the time he walked up in his building. 101 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 4: Then a man, you will. 102 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: Give you a hard time friend about that because you 103 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: bring him up every time we talk. But I actually 104 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: was gonna say Rod this year with. 105 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: A man, I'm just saying you you you see that swag. 106 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 4: I've been hearing Aboudy too. 107 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: I've been here him watching a guy like Terrry just 108 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 3: talking about Tarry, him coming right in and saying, you 109 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: know what, okay with Tearry in front of me, no problem. 110 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: Put Johnson in front of me, no problem. Like that 111 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: swagger is coming out of his poor as it stinks so. 112 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: Good, no, I think so. And for him to have 113 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: all those like kind of one on one situations in 114 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: o t is a mini camp with Terry, one with 115 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: Johan one communication in the back end. 116 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 4: I mean, he just yeah, he's a pro. He's a 117 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 4: It's I'm scared to say this because I don't like 118 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 4: jumping the gun. He's a pro already. 119 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 2: Man, He's a pro. 120 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: Something about him that just it just it reminds me 121 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 4: of Sauce Guard the same things. Like when he came in, 122 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 4: I was looking at him. I was questionable to him. 123 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: I'm like, boy, he dominated in cottage and I'm watching 124 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 4: him over there last year with the jests and I'm like, God, 125 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 4: this dude really came in his league and say I 126 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 4: don't need I don't need a rookie season. I'm here 127 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 4: today to take over, you know. So I'm hoping that 128 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: we can get the same kind of you know play 129 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 4: out of forest. If we get that kind of play 130 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 4: that you know show last year, ye, man, we're gonna win. 131 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 4: We're gonna win. 132 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: So for me, because you took my pick, which I 133 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: should have I should have anticipated you see, that's on me. 134 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: So that's my I'm gonna actually say Montes sweat and 135 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: it's more. It's more that I hope that he gets 136 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: to that level. 137 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: You like Mississippi State though I. 138 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: Do like Mississippi State even though you went there. I 139 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: do like it, but I do I think Montees, like 140 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, he didn't do a lot during training camp 141 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: det his mini camp, but I feel like he's just poised, right, 142 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: He's poised for a big year, contract year. You talk 143 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: about the back end, all the stuff that they've been doing. 144 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: I just think he's gonna come out in training camp 145 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: and like kind of set the foundation for a big year. 146 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: It's funny you say that because me and London interview sweat. 147 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: His energy was just like it was. Man, I ain't 148 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 3: thinking about all this old stuff. I'm just happy to 149 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: go play football. He is there, and you're right, it's there, 150 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: and it's set up for him to dominate. 151 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 4: Just to add to that too, if you watched closely 152 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 4: these guys play last year, Sweat was so clod o 153 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 4: every sack. Ye could have easily had so many more sacks. 154 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 4: And when you have a guy that's just like knocking 155 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 4: at the door and haven't really, you know, knocked it 156 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 4: down yet, it's only it's only right for the next 157 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 4: year to be that year from them. I'm pretty sure 158 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 4: he feels the same way. I know he went home saying, 159 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 4: damn what, I didn't do what? And then it was 160 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 4: sometimes he missed a second hold on to a guy 161 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 4: and let him go. So I just I'm with you 162 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 4: with that. I think he's a guy man that you know, 163 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 4: this is his year, you know, making a break it. 164 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 4: You know, this is the year. We don't give him 165 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 4: a lot of you know, praise anyway, because so many 166 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 4: other guys that we talk about, the guys in the 167 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 4: inside talk about Chase Young and Sweats out there making 168 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 4: plays every time. 169 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: So I agree, and I think you know you mentioned 170 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: like the hits he led. He was fourth in the NFL. 171 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: He had twenty three. 172 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 3: Quarterbacks right the number seven, the number seven edge Russia 173 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 3: in the league right now through PFL number seven. 174 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: That says a lot. 175 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: He's he's ready, So hopefully he's got that swagger, and 176 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: I hope we're talking about him getting paid here sooner rather 177 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: than later. All right, Next one is hometown hero. This 178 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: is kind of a tough one. I think started off front. 179 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: No, not not really. 180 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: I started out, Okay, of course, I'm. 181 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: Gonna tell you who it's gonna be. It's gonna be 182 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: Chase Young. 183 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: Okay. 184 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: Actually truly, I like him the whole time, Hero. 185 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: I like him from here, born and raised, and I 186 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: think when you look at Chase, I think we gotta 187 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: stop forgetting that this dude has never seen hard times 188 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: ever when it came to sports. He's six fifty pounds 189 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: his whole life, he's just been huge, larger than life. 190 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: Number two pick always been there, and now we are 191 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: seeing him go. 192 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: Through some drama. 193 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: I think he comes out the back end of that 194 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: ready to play some football. 195 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: I think he gets this fan base. 196 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think there everything says, all right, let 197 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 2: me go out here and play some football. 198 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 4: Then you know I'm gonna go to Jay Allen's hometown hero. 199 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I could have put him in any spot 200 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: on because he everything about him. Man, he just goes 201 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 4: out there and play the game where it's supposed to be. 202 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 4: And hell, he holds everybody accountable for what they're supposed 203 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: to do. And you really get guys like we had 204 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: Fletch and Flesh would speak out when it was time. 205 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: But Johnathanna seems like he's just always in somebody's face, 206 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 4: always letting guys know when they fall short, even it's 207 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: best of friends. When I saw him in paying go 208 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 4: at it, I knew, I said, you know what this. 209 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 4: I like that at the end of the day, you 210 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 4: got those both those guys are dominant male after you know, 211 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 4: uh males to go at each other and let him 212 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 4: know and he the battle you ain't right or you 213 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 4: didn't do what you're supposed to do. You need that 214 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 4: because a lot of guys don't do that to each other. 215 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 4: They have those relationships and that those friends where I'm 216 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 4: not gonna cross that line, you know, and and get 217 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 4: on him about some I might say it to him, 218 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 4: but it's not gonna be in the demeanor that he 219 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 4: feels offended. Jay I don't don't care who you is. 220 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 4: So you know, he's a guy. He's a home time. 221 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that, and especially he's such a good 222 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: leader on the team, like you mentioned, and uh, Chase 223 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: Young loved that one. I'm gonna go with one. It's 224 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of a reach, a little bit outside 225 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: the box here for me. I'm gonna go Sam Howe. 226 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: And it's more that it's more that I'm hoping, right, 227 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that he comes into training camp looks sharp. 228 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: It looked pretty sharp throatas me. Camp had a couple 229 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: up and down days, but it's. 230 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 2: Overall I want him to have those now. 231 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 1: Right, And I hope that people are chanting his name 232 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: like there were chanting Taylor hanning his name last year. 233 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: That he inspires this fan base, he gets us motivated. 234 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: And again, like, we'll have to see what training camp 235 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: looks like. 236 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: But that's what I'm the last quarterback that started for 237 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: this team from the state of North Carolina with Sonny Jergerson, 238 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: all right, and this kid can bring what Sonny brought 239 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 3: to the organization. 240 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: So hopefully we can get that back. 241 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be imagine it'd be awesome. You know, we 242 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: talked about the arm, we talked about the quick release 243 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: guys seemed to be spawning him as a leader, which 244 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: I think is very important. 245 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 3: Enemy is the most important part of the day out 246 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: for effect is a defensive player. 247 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: For the first month, defenses are not going to know 248 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: how to play this offense. 249 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so he gonna have the element of surprise for 250 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 3: the first month more than anything. So at the end 251 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 3: of the day, I'm telling you right now, he's gonna 252 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 3: start off fast. My big question with him what happens 253 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: when they do study what you do and now what 254 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 3: are you going to do to take it to the 255 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: next one? 256 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, when they get a feel for him. And I 257 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: totally agree with you. I think that, like Eric b 258 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: Enemy's relationship to that is going to be so critical. 259 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: Right the screens r pos eliminating his is like really 260 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: high leverage stuff. 261 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 3: But saying that, we are tear. We've been a terrible 262 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 3: screen team for like the last five years. 263 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: But you know in the last in mini camp, right 264 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: the hit it too. That would have been touchdowns like 265 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: eighty yard touchdowns to Gibson and one a big play 266 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: sixty yard played to b Rob. So it's there. It's happening. Yes, 267 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: it's coming, all right. So road warrior, all right, guy 268 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: that is just a dog on the road. 269 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 3: No, no, no, Cam curR would be my guy. He likes 270 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: to play on enemy territory. I love like I was 271 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: an enemy territory. Like when you talk trash, enemy territory 272 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: brings out the best. 273 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: But a lot of trash does he do on so quiet? 274 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: No, Cam Curl is that guy that it seems to 275 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: be like. And maybe it's an Arkansas thing when when 276 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: they back against the wall he plays his best. So 277 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say my world warrior is Cam Curl. I 278 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 3: think if we go back at the end of the 279 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: year and compare his stats on the road to home, 280 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: I think he will have better stats. 281 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: On the road. 282 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 4: Take a page from your book, Logan, and I'm gonna 283 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: say who I hope to be a road warrior. I 284 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 4: believe when you when you when you travel, you have 285 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 4: to have especially offensively, you have to have a great 286 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 4: run game. You gotta be able to slow things down 287 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 4: and be able to control the football game. I need 288 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 4: to be robbed to be warrior. I need him to 289 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 4: be able when we need to slow all this other stuff. 290 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 4: This misdirection, all the stuff we can do, especially with 291 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 4: our skill guys, I need to have a pound that 292 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 4: that's gonna hit you in the mouth. I need our 293 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 4: run game to show up. And that's what I believe. 294 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 4: You know, b Rod would come in at because he's 295 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 4: already showed us that he can play football. But I 296 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 4: think when teams get to that level of seeing many 297 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 4: postseasons bursts and you know, half potential Super Bowl hopes, 298 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 4: it's when they can run the ball anywhere, and you 299 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 4: need it on the road, when you have the fans 300 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 4: in your ear. You know, you can't sit up there 301 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 4: be talking about checking out of the cadence and going 302 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 4: to the past game. You need to be able to say, 303 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 4: now you've been a pound this so we can shut y' 304 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 4: all up and then we're gonna hit you deep down 305 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 4: the field with great. 306 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 3: Great call on that one, because that takes me back 307 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: to Philadelphia last year, Philadelphia when we went up there 308 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: and beat them. 309 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: He was one of guys, why So that's great right there? 310 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: Lo, how you go back that one up, that's a 311 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: tough one, because that's that's an excellent one. That might 312 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: be a favorite one that we've said so far, I'm 313 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: gonna say Johan Dotson actually, and I think in conjunction 314 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: with that run game, in conjunction with that physicality, you 315 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: got to step up and make big plays. And he 316 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: just had a knack kind of for finding those big 317 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: opportunities and making those big plays irrespective of where it 318 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: was at. But I think having that guy with Terry, 319 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: who was always you know, Terry could have literally been 320 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: every single one of these. But you know, like I 321 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: think Johan kind of be that, you know, that that 322 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: robbing to his batman kind of thing in those big 323 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: games on the road we're gonna have, we have some 324 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: tough road games this year. I'd like to see him 325 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: step up and make some movie. All right, all right, 326 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: So next one, and this one's interesting because I'm excited 327 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: to hear what Fred's got to say. Just a doll 328 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: and we ain't. 329 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 4: Tell about Mississippi State down. 330 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: I guess what a dog is? 331 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 4: A dog? 332 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 2: Swet is just a doll. You don't understand me, Just 333 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: a just a doll. And guess what, Not only is 334 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: it contract year? 335 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: Not only was he an inch away from twenty sex 336 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: last year? 337 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 2: Not only is he. 338 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: Just wow, look at this guy over here, no, if 339 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: you look at PFL, yeah no, he was top five 340 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: into the quarterback last year. I'm with you, but twenty's 341 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: a lot of sacks, bro. 342 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 3: But guess what if he just hold on the people 343 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: he would have had sem team last year, like. 344 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: They're not too far. 345 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: Also, I have to remind people we have the best 346 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 3: and I'm not going on limb. 347 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: We got the best defensive line in football. 348 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 3: I think that we got the best defensive line in football, 349 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: and I will repeat it with anybody. We have Chase 350 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: Young at one end, Montel sweating the other with pain 351 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 3: out of it. 352 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: We got the best offense, I mean defensive line. Why not? 353 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,119 Speaker 3: I could easily say I can out of my starters. 354 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: We could easily get forty sacks. 355 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean that's I mean, okay, let's maybe 356 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: let's talk about that for a second. So with regards 357 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: to the defensive line, for me, after after that rousing speech, 358 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: I would say, the whole d line is just a dog, 359 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: like don't those guys don't Yeah, you got everyone there, 360 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: Williams John Ridgeway had a Bridgeway is dead boy at 361 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: Accellent's just had whole groups of dog. What is the 362 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: actual expectation for that group this year? Is it ten 363 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: sacks a guy? Is it forty sacks for the unit? 364 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: Like what? Cause you know they there's they've. 365 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: Under five sacks and the whole group. 366 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: And just kind of being a dominant group. 367 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about taking over ball gas. 368 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 369 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 3: I remember when I was playing in the Ravens had 370 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: Sarah Gusa, they had to real sucks. 371 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: They had like the D line was it? This line reminds. 372 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: Me of them different different stylistically, but yeah, yeah. 373 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm looking for them to go over and 374 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: take like because the only thing they were missing was 375 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: a back end that made the quarterback hold the. 376 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: Ball for one tenth of a second. Where they got 377 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: that this year. 378 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 3: So I'm just saying, this could be the best defensive 379 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 3: line ever assembled for one year. And don't forget you 380 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: know how it's players played with his kind of track 381 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 3: year both ends up on the It's true. 382 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, yeah, no, I agree, And it's 383 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: lofty expectations, you know, but it's it's definitely possible because 384 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: they are some talented sons of gun San. You got 385 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: somebody after that. I mean, why don't we just stay 386 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: with that just the defensive line. 387 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 3: The defensive line, and they are dolls of this group. 388 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 3: They are special. 389 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: So I agree. I think like that whole group name 390 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: we named all eight of them. You know, f a 391 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: Obota is a guy that didn't get through. But that's 392 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: that's a good group. 393 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: But I mean, we're gonna have to cut good players. 394 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, he said the d lining and I was already 395 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 4: talking about it, you know, I was. I was leaning 396 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 4: towards Pain. 397 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 398 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 4: I believe just the way Payne plays the game. I mean, 399 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 4: he's he's that dog. He's gonna go get his bone 400 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 4: every time. 401 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know it's funny we talked about PFF 402 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: of the defensive line had the highest pass rate pass 403 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: rush Win Waight last year. 404 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I haven't seen a guy that play inside 405 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 4: be as dominant. And won't get me wrong, we got 406 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 4: Allen on the same squad. But I haven't seen a 407 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 4: guy in a single season be as dominant as Pain 408 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: since Aaron Donald had that year where he just dominated everybody. 409 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 4: I mean, they had the Super Bowl. I think the 410 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 4: years before the Super Bowl he even played better. But 411 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 4: but the year was one of those years that stood out, 412 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? 413 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: And they free each other up because you can't double 414 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: team anybody like your officer line has to go into 415 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 3: the game and say, you know what you got, John, 416 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 3: You got to run like you. 417 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: Have to like single up and that's gonna get you 418 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: beat every time. 419 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: No, I agree, Okay, So dogs d Lion, I love it. 420 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: Just a hog, just a guy on the offensive line 421 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: that you're excited to see. 422 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 4: Right. 423 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: And it's tough with the offensive line this year because 424 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: they didn't do a lot in ots in mini caamp right, 425 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: just because of how practice was structured a lot of 426 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: past game emphasis. Is there somebody that you said, Wow, 427 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to see what they got going. 428 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 4: I'm jumping. I'm gonna jump the gun with this one. 429 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 4: And I think it rightfully so that this guy deserves 430 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 4: a little recognition and attention. I think Chris Paul. Okay, 431 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 4: Chris Paul showed me some last year when he got 432 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 4: his little spot, he got his little chance to go 433 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 4: out and saying to myself like, well damn, you had 434 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 4: that in you all year alone, and so and just 435 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 4: know how things was, you know been played, you know 436 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 4: with the officer line, the musical chairs of the officer 437 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 4: lineman I mean, it seemed like the revolving door of 438 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 4: Lineman was the last few years what was going on 439 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 4: with Chris Paul to not get a nod, not get 440 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 4: that opportunity to finally get it and to play well. 441 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 4: So now you're a year removed from that. Now it's 442 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 4: all the other guys have been added that can play 443 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 4: your position. I want to see him be that guy. 444 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 4: I want to see him be just the hog and say, 445 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 4: guess what I'm here. 446 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna. 447 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 4: Put my ten toes in the ground and I'm gonna 448 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 4: let you know this is my spot. Now. You could 449 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 4: come and play with me because I know how we 450 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 4: do things that they might need me somewhere else throughout 451 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 4: the course of the year. But guess what when when 452 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 4: we when we kick off things, I'm the guy that 453 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 4: you got to call. 454 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: It. 455 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 3: Ain't nothing like being down south and walking into a 456 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: gas station and seeing that pickle pig feet. 457 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: Job right there on it. I'm right there, old on 458 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: this death. So he could be if he I'm gonna 459 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: tell you who I'm going with. 460 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 3: I'm going with Wiley, the guy we just signed, because 461 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: he just was in the Super Bowl. He just proved 462 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 3: that he can play at the top of the line football. 463 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 3: He's a champion. He got a ring on his finger. 464 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 3: The last hog we had here with a ring on 465 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 3: his finger. That was Dare Green's days, that was Jacoby 466 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 3: all the rest of those guys. So I'm gonna go 467 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: with the one guy on the offensive line with a 468 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 3: ring on his finger. 469 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: Yeah right, I'm going with. 470 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: Why Well, so just the hog guy. I think a 471 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: guy who's tough. I think the guy who's smart, guy 472 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: who likes football. And it's like gritty, got a little 473 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: gritty like kind of rolling around in the mud. And 474 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: that's Nick Gates. Me. Man, you watch him in OJ 475 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: is loud. He is boisterous, he's getting the protection called 476 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: he's got. And when you watch this film from last year, 477 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: he's a nasty dude. Yeah, he plays nasty place of 478 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: an edge, and I think he's a guy that's gonna 479 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: hopefully the young guys kind of gravitate to that personality 480 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: and we get a whole bunch of kind of salty. 481 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 4: We need a lot of We need a lot of 482 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 4: Gates because we need that nasty player the officer line. 483 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 4: We need all officer line to be the national office 484 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 4: and line ever get to the point to where the 485 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 4: nasty and the team we win the championship. 486 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: Yeah so yeah, so I think if if that, if 487 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: that happens, Chris Paul's isshowing, it's a I think it's 488 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: another kind of compelling one because he's gonna started that 489 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: get mean. Yeah, and he's a tremendous athlete. Lot of 490 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: athletes so interesting. Okay, So based on OT's mini camp, 491 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: who caught you sleeping? Who was somebody that you were like? Man, 492 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: they had a really good period or whatever it was, 493 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see what they got in training camp. Now. 494 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to butcher his name. 495 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: What's his name, Kasmiir Allen, Kasmir Allen. 496 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: He got a twitch about him like it's a dB. 497 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: But he had a pulled hamstring. 498 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 2: So but when I look at guys, it's a dB. 499 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 2: I have to look at wide receivers. Is who are threaded? 500 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:45,959 Speaker 2: Who is not all right? 501 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: When I looked at him, it's the quick twitch, the 502 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: ability to stop and start. I told you the most 503 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 3: dangerous ability to a cornerback for a wide receivers, the 504 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: ability to stop the store like I don't checked so many. 505 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: Do they like they do the flip. He can't stop. 506 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, like he can only run goal routes. It took 507 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 3: him like seven stop, I mean step so stuff. So No, 508 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: he I think is a guy that gonna help. He 509 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 3: gonna he gonna get his bearings in return game. Then 510 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: he gonna get his chance when somebody to get hurt. Yeah, 511 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 3: and then I think we have never seen him taking 512 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: out of the rotation again. 513 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: Wow, Well that's a that's a that's a you know, 514 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kind of hedge that a little bit. I 515 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: think all those young receivers that they brought in, all 516 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: those undrafted receivers, they did a great job. Brush in Tremaine, 517 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: he's six five, he's two twenty contested catchability. Tinsley from 518 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: Penn State had an excellent OTA period. A guy that 519 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: has returned kicks, so gonna be in competition with Kashmir. 520 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: But that whole group I think is really compelling and 521 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: our scouting department deserves a ton of credit. They found 522 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: all these guys that can play, and we'll play. However, 523 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: my guy that caught me sleeping was Kleet Hudson. That 524 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: guy in camp or in any cam and Otis looked 525 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: like a different dude. 526 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: I've been saying he didn't kids sleep because I seen. 527 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: Him do this, but I'm saying, yeah, but he's been 528 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: a little up, up and down and consistent maybe, and 529 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: for him just to come out every day, you know, 530 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: beat the back on the blitz, sniff out a screen, 531 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: run down a receiver, cover receiver in the slot, play 532 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: that Buffalo nickel overhang player. I just was like, this 533 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: is the dude that they drafted who was kind of 534 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: that converted safety linebacker, and maybe this is the year 535 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: that he figures he turns into himself. And Jack del Rio, 536 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: you know, in the day, was like, oh, you know, 537 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: Jamion's better hurt and everyone's like, oh no, what's gonna happen? 538 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: And Jack was like, dudekleis from doing a great job. 539 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: And I was blown away when I watched every day 540 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: he did like a nice splash play. Hopefully that continues 541 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: and hopefully he's making plays for this defense. And who you. 542 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 4: Got this is gonna be a little surprised, y'all. 543 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: Okay, and. 544 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 4: The code reset, Oh all right, I mean only the 545 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 4: reason why I said I didn't expect him to come 546 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 4: in here and making no noise. Yeah, going into training camp, 547 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 4: then that we can't just say that I got Sam. 548 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 4: I am in the ter and we knew he's gonna 549 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 4: come in here and beat a tutor and be a 550 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 4: guy that's gonna be the veteran, the savvy better and 551 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 4: that's going to show him some things in there. But 552 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 4: for some reason whatever he's been showing Ron scratching his 553 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 4: head like, I don't know if I want to go 554 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 4: ahead and stay. This guy is a guy. But I'm 555 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 4: happy because I feel that, you know, if y'all can 556 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 4: go back, remember we was on command center and y'all 557 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 4: ask me what quarterback we should bring it here? He 558 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 4: was the guy that I mentioned, so now to get 559 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 4: him here and just to see that he's a little 560 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 4: more ahead of the curve dynamic, his dynamic level and 561 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 4: then not even just talking about his skills set or 562 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 4: what he can do as a QB, but for this offense, 563 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like if you think about it, 564 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes, the things that he did a lot of 565 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 4: the stuff that he especially with was off schedule, you 566 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 4: know what I mean, things that just you know, you 567 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 4: got to just have came by off you know what 568 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 4: I mean, so to have a quarterback that can run 569 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 4: the offense and get the ball out of his hands 570 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,719 Speaker 4: and still be that guy. I think he has all 571 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 4: those capabilities. And I'm just scratching my head about what 572 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 4: the coaches think about it, because right now they're not sure. 573 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 4: They're not that you just say, Sam, we know it's 574 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 4: gonna probably end up giving the you know, being Sam's thing, 575 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 4: but he showed them something this these o t as 576 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 4: in mini camps and making these coaches say, hey, man, 577 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 4: maybe you need to wait to train the camp and 578 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 4: let these guys. 579 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: Pray to God. 580 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 3: As much as I love Jacob, I pray to God, 581 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: he don't play a dime exactly. 582 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 4: And I'm I'm with you with that because I really 583 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 4: do believe in Sam. But for what we're talking about 584 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 4: right now, a guy who's sleeping, and I knew he 585 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 4: was a guy that's capable. I didn't think. 586 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: The damn brother just wanting sorry, man did go to sleep? Happened? 587 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 4: Man? 588 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: All right? So this is that's what is a little 589 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: little weird one, a little creative way to get to this. 590 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: But the major Tuddy Award red zone threat this year, 591 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: and I think there's a lot of potential candidates here, 592 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: especially in this offense. Obviously there's the major ones you 593 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: know of the Terrys Hans, But is there anybody that's 594 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: a little off the radar that you're like, we need 595 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: to keep an eye out for this guy. 596 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 2: I was gonna go Cold Turner. 597 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 3: Cold Turnate to me, is that dude that every team 598 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: has this player that dominates it practice and you just 599 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 3: can't wait to see him get in the game. 600 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: I think for my years it was Taylor Jacobs. 601 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,959 Speaker 3: Okay, like Taylor used to give me a Champ Bailey 602 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 3: hal it practice. 603 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 2: Get in the game. 604 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: But no, it knows about no one knows that. 605 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: Knows about it. So I'm gonna go Logan Thomas. 606 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: So happy you said that. 607 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: I don't like dudes name Logan, but I'm going with 608 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 3: Logan Tilman because I didn't. 609 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: Logan is just gonna have their years. He stays healthy. 610 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: I agree because I you know, in many camp O 611 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: t A's he's been the most consistent offensive weapon during 612 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: that period. Right now, it's nine practices, so let's not 613 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: everybody go crazy. But he, he and Sam seem to 614 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: be in the same page. He looks good. You understand 615 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: zones well, he's using that big body, So I think, yeah, man, 616 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: I totally agree with. 617 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 4: That, and it's crazy because I was gonna go Logan too. 618 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 4: But I think just to add to that, Sam should 619 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 4: be dominant too, because Sam could beat in the air 620 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 4: all and grunt. Yeah, and we've seen them time and 621 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 4: time again when things got dicey, he just took off 622 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 4: and made a play. So I think in the red 623 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 4: zone it's great to have a part with that skills 624 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 4: to point, you know, especially with this offense that's gonna 625 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 4: have so much misdirection to have these skill guys out 626 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 4: there that you got to check out I guy man 627 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 4: for man like you're gonna have to. Really, it's gonna 628 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 4: be I see some of these games gonna be where 629 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 4: the quarterback gon say, well, that's what they giving me. 630 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 4: You're gonna have to have a man for man to 631 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 4: really check our guys. And if you man up the 632 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 4: way that I suppose these defenses have to, Sam should 633 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 4: to be able to take off and hit his head 634 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 4: on the go post. So Logan Thomas is number one, 635 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 4: but I believe Sam's gonna be dynamic in the red zone. 636 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's a great point that the run 637 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: Russian ability in the red zone excellent. But you know 638 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: with regards to Logan Thomas, like Logan Thomas, Cole Turner, 639 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: Curtis Hodges, is it a great ota Minifi period? So 640 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: like can he continue to develop? And you know during 641 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: mini camp they're out there in fourteen personnel. There's not 642 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: many teams that can get out there in fourteen personnel 643 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: have Curtis and a cold play roide receiver and Logan 644 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: in the slot. Yeah, like there's a lot of potential there. 645 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: But for me, a guy because we just sit for 646 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: the Today Show, had to do a breakdown about running backs, 647 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, so I went back and watched all of 648 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: Jared mckinnony touches. He had nine touchdowns last year. Yeah, 649 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: a lot of them are on like that kind of 650 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: that that pick play where you're running the receivers across 651 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: the back sneaks out from the backfield. He had probably 652 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 1: five touchdowns on that. I think that's gonna be Gibson 653 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: for US. I think Gibson's gonna get a lot of 654 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: touches on those kind of pseudo pick plays where the 655 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: backs off set away from the bunch and they can't 656 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: get through the trash I have a whole bunch of 657 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: touchdowns like that. So I think keep an eye on 658 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: our guy, Gibson. You see what you think about that. 659 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 3: I believe Ghibby that's a good pick right there. I 660 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 3: believe Gibbson actually is going to be in This might 661 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: shock a lot of people because I think b Rob 662 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 3: is dead boy. 663 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 664 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 2: I think Gibby is going to have more rushing yos, 665 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 2: touchdowns and. 666 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: Receiving than that is a bull take. That's a bull take. 667 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,719 Speaker 1: You just think he's gonna be on the field more. 668 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 3: No, I just feel like it's the year go on 669 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 3: and eb gets into his bag. 670 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: He gonna learn that Gibson. It's gonna be hard to 671 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: take off the field. Yeah, Like you want to take 672 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: him off the field. 673 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: Especially in this offense, yes, Like, like where are you 674 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: running that offense they ran last year? B Rob's vision 675 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: is the is the game changer, but in this offense, 676 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: it's no, it's face And that's the other thing. So 677 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, oh my gosh, like you know, 678 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: there's gonna be all these touches for the backs and 679 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: like the slot and stuff. They do such a good 680 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: job of creating that space running vertical the backs in 681 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: the flat, and who do you want catching the ball 682 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: with a ton of space in the flat? 683 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: Yep? 684 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely? Okay, so I think that was a lot of fun. 685 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: Kind of a surprise name not mentioned, Curtis Samuel. Where 686 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: would he fit there? If you had to play some. 687 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: He would be my role warrior. 688 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: Okay, he would be. 689 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: My role warrior. And I actually think that this office 690 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: is cater to him. 691 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 4: He a major toddy. I think I think that some 692 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 4: of the things that he can do with the ball 693 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 4: in the run game, in the passing game, he a 694 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 4: major tuddy. 695 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: Okay, awesome, all right, So that does that. That was 696 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: a lot of fun, guys. Okay, so this is a 697 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: little bit of a personal get to know us. Yeah 698 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: old people, Yeah, old people. Right, What is your favorite pastime? 699 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: Now that you're not playing anymore, now that you're retired 700 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: from football, what is your favorite pastime? What do you like? 701 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: How do you spend how do you feel your day? 702 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: I like to grow things that I did not expect 703 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: you to say that at all. Please elaborate. Do you 704 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: have like a like a I have a garden. 705 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: I have a garden. 706 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 3: I've been growing a garden since I've been like out 707 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: of college, I grew up. I had a towerhouse in college, 708 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 3: and I grew a garden there. Did you like, I 709 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 3: always grow my own tomatoes, my own peppers, my own 710 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 3: q com is my own every day with them? 711 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: Yes, what you think I do? Put them on the side. 712 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like like who gives them all of her. 713 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 3: Friends to my neighbors if it started to push out 714 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: too much. I give them to my neighbors and people 715 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 3: in the neighborhood. But I love to grow things. I'm 716 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 3: from Mississippi. That's a part of me, and my grandma 717 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 3: used to do that all the time. So it takes 718 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 3: me back to those days. 719 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: I am a farmer. 720 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: So do you have one of those boxes that set 721 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: up with like, well, you. 722 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 3: Only want to pick it off the ground because you 723 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 3: don't want the insects to get like the reason you 724 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,239 Speaker 3: you you actually give it some some height to it, 725 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 3: just to make sure you don't have to put too 726 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 3: many pesticides on. 727 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: I got you. And then and then is it caged 728 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: in because the deer or is it open? 729 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 2: No, you don't have to worry about deer. No, but 730 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 2: the rabbits. 731 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 3: You will be shocked to how many rabbits, tike around 732 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 3: water rabbits to come get it, stuff like that, which 733 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: I let them eat for free. 734 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 2: I let you meet for free, like I don't hunt 735 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: them or nothing. 736 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 4: Ain't going on, and allowed them to have this right. 737 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: Is Mississippi State School. 738 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: Would you have a Did you take agricultural class? 739 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,719 Speaker 2: No? No, Actually I went for broadcast communication. 740 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: Oh look at you, man, right, So. 741 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 3: I had already I had already knew my minor was psychology. 742 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: So I learned people, indeed, broadcast in case, I learned 743 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 3: how to talk to them. 744 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: Just learn how to talk. 745 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 4: Man. 746 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: I feel like you didn't. I feel like you didn't 747 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: need to go. I might spend the easiest degree for you. 748 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: It was just yes. 749 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 3: Already, I had already finished school a semester. I was 750 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 3: renting together. 751 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 4: Fast time. I mean, I hate to say it, bro, 752 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 4: I'm not doing a lot of things fun. I'm just 753 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 4: on the bike most of the time. Ride. I'm riding 754 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 4: my bike, arm in the gym. 755 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: Are you on the road or you at like the 756 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: peloton at the house. 757 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 4: So both So when it's crazy outside it's wet or 758 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 4: you know, windy, I take the peloton on. And when 759 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 4: it's a nice day like it is today. I want 760 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 4: to see everything. I want to just ride, let my 761 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 4: mind go just and and I don't like the trails. 762 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 4: The trails, I would go on the trail just to 763 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 4: stay off the street. But I like to be in 764 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 4: the street. I like to see people, like to see 765 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 4: the I like to pass by new homes. Like I'm 766 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 4: one of those guys I would ride fifty miles just 767 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 4: to view, just to see stuff, you know, stuff, And 768 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 4: it takes my mind other places and give me a 769 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 4: chance to think about something I want to do in 770 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 4: the future, Like I didn't know that, you know, it 771 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 4: was that helpful to just escape sometimes on the bike 772 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 4: and just get lost. And to me, my mind is 773 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 4: always right. I'm like one of those guys never sits still, 774 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 4: so like to be places. And now that I'm not 775 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 4: playing ball anymore, I'm sitting still most of the time 776 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 4: in the house on the couch. So what's best to 777 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 4: do then, you know, go out and ride bike. Go 778 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 4: out and ride your bike, you know what I mean. 779 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 4: So it keeps me, It keeps me calm. It's comfortable 780 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 4: for me too. But at the same time, I'm killing 781 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 4: all everything else with one stone, just by getting up 782 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 4: and working out, making sure that I'm staying right, you 783 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and being in. 784 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 2: The same in shame on Virginia. Let me tell Virginia something. 785 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: Okay, what we got. 786 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: Because I also ride the bike trails. Why do they 787 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 3: put breweries on breweries and barbecue talking about the worst 788 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 3: stuff you can ever put on bike? 789 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 2: Like, I get a mile and a half and I'm like, 790 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: damn higgo. 791 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 3: Old Ox Brewery and they have a beer while I'm 792 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 3: trying to get this good. 793 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: So all I'm saying is b a keep beer and 794 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: barbecueil away from the. 795 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, offer the trad What about you because you ain't 796 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: that old, but you just look out. 797 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: I look question how did you get into that ten? 798 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: How did you end in the bike? Was that something 799 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: that got you going right? 800 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 4: So you know, man, you know, I ain't never scared 801 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 4: to share my story. Man. I went through something. Man, 802 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,959 Speaker 4: I was going through it mentally two years man, playing 803 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 4: and it's crazy. I love to be able to talk 804 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 4: about it. I'm not gonna be specifically what I was 805 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 4: going through, but I'm specifically just knowing that I went there. 806 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 4: And people deal with stress differently. 807 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: Like stressed out, you ate like a mother. 808 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 4: When I was stressed, and I mean I ate, and it. 809 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: Was it was. 810 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 4: I played in two thousand and ten at two oh five, 811 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 4: came back in twenty eleven and played at two ten. 812 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 4: Now remind I remind them years two out of ten, 813 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 4: I went for a thousand, had had the most catches 814 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 4: in my career and was and with snug for the 815 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 4: Pro Bowl. I was a Pro Bowler and they didn't 816 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 4: give it to him because of something that happened prior 817 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 4: to that season with the whole doctor from Canada. I 818 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 4: remember that story, and I was hurt because I knew 819 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 4: that was my contract year, and that's great to go 820 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 4: into that contract year. Said I got a Pro Bowl, 821 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 4: and now you got to pay me a little more. 822 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 4: You know I'm thirty plus, but you got to pay 823 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 4: me cause and I just played at two hundred pounds 824 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 4: ten pounds overweight and still dominated, you know what I mean. 825 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 4: And off a knee injury, they surgery rather, so I 826 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 4: went through that and in twenty eleven I did it again, 827 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 4: but got hurt. In like week five, I broke my 828 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 4: hand and sat down, came back. I was a shutter myself. 829 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 4: Just couldn't get back on track and Ray told me 830 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 4: Tanna an off season. Ray gave me to know. He said, hey, bro, 831 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 4: we need you to lose some weight. And I said, 832 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 4: all I needed somebody to tell me. I've been telling myself, 833 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 4: but I needed to hear from somebody. And Ray called 834 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 4: me and told me, man, I need you to lose 835 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 4: some I say, Bro, I hate eating healthy. I need 836 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 4: to eat something that I liked. It's all portions. I 837 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 4: don't go outside the box geating salacks and stuff. I 838 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 4: eat what I like chicken. I might eat pork, but 839 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 4: it's all lean and the small portions of it. So 840 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 4: I got my nutrition is to kind of map map 841 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 4: out something for me. And Ray told me ride the 842 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 4: bike every day, Tannel until until we started OTA's. He said, 843 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 4: I promise you're gonna lose a lot of weight. Bro. 844 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 4: I came back so like I was one eighty five 845 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 4: when I came back, and I remember Mike Shanahan saw 846 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 4: me and say hey that Mike Shanahan was so happy 847 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 4: to see how small I got. It brightened me up, 848 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 4: just like knowing that he was waiting to see me 849 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 4: get back to my you know, my size. But it's 850 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 4: crazy even getting back to that size. They changed my 851 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 4: whole opposition that year and made me a slot guy. 852 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 4: And I'm like, well damn, let me be dominating on 853 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 4: the outside again this light. But that's what got me 854 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 4: to ride the bike, man, and I and I stuck 855 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 4: with it to this day, even though I don't probably 856 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 4: partake in the healthy, the healthiest diet, you know what 857 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 4: I mean. I enjoy myself now. Man, I'm forty four 858 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 4: years old. I might enjoy myself seriously, but I know 859 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 4: how to get it off me. I go ride the. 860 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: Bike and that old face. So what I do? I 861 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: coach a lot, man, I got I still got business. 862 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: I got the chise couping business. But I also do 863 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: personal training and I coach at the high school. And 864 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: you know, when I got into it, I wasn't sure 865 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: how I feel about it. But it has been super 866 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: rewarding to take someone who's like maybe not the best 867 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: football player and then teach him a skill and then 868 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: watch how they you know, they progress, or get someone stronger, 869 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: or help them with their nutrition. Like that's been really fulfilling. 870 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 3: I think, you know, how does it feel with somebody 871 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 3: bring you a child that you know day. 872 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: That is I talked to my wife about all the 873 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: time because she's a teacher, she's a coach, and parents, 874 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: especially in this area, they have like, yeah, I go 875 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL, go play the NBA, and I'm just like, man, 876 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: your your son's five five to ten, yeah, and he's 877 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 1: not good. And so you know, it's like I try 878 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: to set expectations, be like hey man, you know, like, well, 879 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna work with him, but like you know, mom, daddy, god, 880 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: I only gave him so much. 881 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 4: I can't teach him to be a football player, to 882 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 4: be in them, you know what I mean. That's the 883 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 4: thing I tell guys in my camp, Like I tell him, look, 884 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 4: you can bring your kid in my camp all day. 885 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 4: I can't teaching would be a ball. But now I'm 886 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 4: assuring the things that we do to be we are 887 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 4: the weapon. But it has to be in him, you 888 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 4: know me. 889 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: So like this is one, right, there's a guy that 890 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: I coached. He's an awesome kid, like you know, yes, sir, no, sir, 891 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: like grinder, not not the greatest athlete today. Got him 892 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: to run a four seven forty and he was running 893 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 1: like a five to one. 894 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, So that you should feel 895 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 2: we war, so that. 896 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 1: That to me feel great changes everything, you know what 897 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying. All it makes all those like weird missus 898 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: and bad ones like that's good. 899 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 3: Because he don't run a folk sale in the military 900 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 3: and he will not be playing football. 901 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 2: So you just hit the America. You should have merchant. 902 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 2: You should feel very good. Most lieutenant, who got you logan? 903 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 2: I ran a and ask didn't asked your logan postes. 904 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: Sir, ohuys, guys got anything else? 905 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 2: We go? 906 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: We talked at all out. 907 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 2: Let your key grow up to be foot by. 908 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: All that does it for today. 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