Speaker 1: What is Looks Maxing. It's very trendy. What is that?
Speaker 1: Is that true? Is that a thing?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh? I mean but by the way, I have
Speaker 2: a Looks Maxer like Adler is just I see his future, Like, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know if that's a good thing or is that
Speaker 1: a thing? Is it's a writer? You know what this is?
Speaker 1: You've heard of this?
Speaker 2: Yes, because he has a tween. It's going to be
Speaker 2: everywhere in just you know, I'm mewing right now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're mewing. Look at you, mewing stigma.
Speaker 1: I don't like any of this exactly. I don't like
Speaker 1: any of this.
Speaker 3: Hey, Will, can you stop mogging?
Speaker 1: Writer?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're totally.
Speaker 1: I'm you.
Speaker 2: You're lapping Will your will with your mogging.
Speaker 1: Language. Right? Is this like the six seventh thing where actually,
Speaker 1: when you get down to what it really doesn't no
Speaker 1: one knows what it means.
Speaker 2: Hold on, I just I want to work on my cheekbones.
Speaker 1: Oh god? Is that the thing?
Speaker 2: The face take cameras or hard objects to their face
Speaker 2: to create micro fractures so that certain parts like it's
Speaker 2: all about manliness. Looks Maxers are boils who have decided
Speaker 2: that in order to avoid being an inceelluh, they are
Speaker 2: going to maximalize their beauty and so metrosexual. Well that yeah,
Speaker 2: that I guess We've had multiple different.
Speaker 1: Time you rebranded metrosexual. You rebrand metrosexual was always yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: and then in the seventies it was just being in
Speaker 1: touch with your femininity.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, metrosexual. To be fair, it was a
Speaker 2: little bit like just actually caring about your hygiene, a
Speaker 2: little bit like oh I trim my beard, hairs, I
Speaker 2: do my hair, I brush my teeth.
Speaker 1: But wasn't it also like guys starting to wear like
Speaker 1: base makeup and like you could wear a little bit
Speaker 1: of makeup and stuff like that, that was metrosexual.
Speaker 4: I thought, No, No, it was just for for straight
Speaker 4: men to actually care about what they look like. That's
Speaker 4: all the And that's why the word went away is
Speaker 4: because once men started it was like this is there's
Speaker 4: no longer hetero hoomo distinction.
Speaker 1: There's just looking good.
Speaker 2: They're just taking care of the word.
Speaker 1: The metrosexual just went away. So the word So the
Speaker 1: way to make yourself manly is by breaking your cheekbones
Speaker 1: with something.
Speaker 2: They've decided that like all high testosterone things like broad shoulders,
Speaker 2: high cheekbones, chisel jaw, you know, low body fat, like
Speaker 2: just that kind of stuff is ultimately the most important
Speaker 2: part of being high on the evolution food chain, and
Speaker 2: so to be an alpha. And so these guys, there's
Speaker 2: all the lingo of this young young generation mogging is
Speaker 2: to upstage someone with your beauty. So say we took
Speaker 2: a group picture, like Will or Rider could be mogging
Speaker 2: the other one based on who looks more manly, like
Speaker 2: who's got broader shoulders, who's got sharper cheekbones. And these
Speaker 2: people who looks maxers take it extremely far. Plastic surgery, hitting.
Speaker 4: Their testosterone, they're hitting their.
Speaker 2: Face, having hair transplants if they don't like their hairline.
Speaker 1: The idea of what masculinity is is so ridiculous when
Speaker 1: it comes to stuff like this. So essentially we've just
Speaker 1: gone back to Jersey Shore.
Speaker 2: A little bit, A little bit like Jersey Shore, Yeah,
Speaker 2: a little bit with that GT taking.
Speaker 1: What you got to take, Jim Tan laundry. It's just
Speaker 1: about how you look, and you know, it's the facial
Speaker 1: features and cutting down the body fat. We've gone back
Speaker 1: to just Jersey Shore. Okay, next generation, good luck for.
Speaker 3: Your kids, well, the situation. The situation in this case
Speaker 3: is a guy named Clavicular. He's like the main guy
Speaker 3: who also made.
Speaker 1: It sounds like something you need to take a pill form.
Speaker 2: It's taken from his claviical. He owns to have sharp classicals.
Speaker 1: This is a thing. What it worked. We're done, We're done,
Speaker 1: We're done moving.
Speaker 2: My biggest issue with it is that I read it
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh God, Adler doesn't know what
Speaker 2: a look snacksters. But Oddler is like kind of.
Speaker 4: What he really cares about what he looks like, and.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, he cares about what he looks like. And
Speaker 2: he's like, I just want abs. I want to, Mom,
Speaker 2: I want to I want to get Oh, I gotta
Speaker 2: get abs. And like he six and a half, and
Speaker 2: he anytime he comes, like he goes anywhere, even remotely
Speaker 2: home adjacent, his shirts immediately ripped off. And he's and
Speaker 2: I'm like, why where, why don't you have a shirt on?
Speaker 2: And he's like I just I just like it.
Speaker 1: He's just like, man, is he gonna get a try?
Speaker 1: Is he gonna get a tribal henna?
Speaker 2: He plays he would, he would for sure he would
Speaker 2: if he saw a guy with a big bicep and
Speaker 2: a tribal hen attack. If he saw, he'd be like,
Speaker 2: I want that. The other day I said to he
Speaker 2: was like, so, what do I have tomorrow? And it
Speaker 2: was Wednesday, and I know it was Tuesday. He was asking,
Speaker 2: and so he was asking about Wednesday, and I said,
Speaker 2: you have tutoring. He has a reading tutor and and
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, man, I don't care about reading. I
Speaker 2: don't care about math. All I want to be is
Speaker 2: strong and athletic, just full set camp.
Speaker 1: Is that surprise?
Speaker 4: You guys watched wrestling with him since he was like two.
Speaker 1: Sure, you could also take the theatricality about about wrestling.
Speaker 1: You could take the kind of my parents. My mom's
Speaker 1: an actor, and look at the theatricality behind the wrestling.
Speaker 1: So like I want is that.
Speaker 4: You're fighting one another in an athletic competitions.
Speaker 1: Fighting.
Speaker 4: You're not getting together to like wrap battle or you know.
Speaker 4: What you're doing against each other is beating the crap
Speaker 4: out of each other. So it's not surprising that he's
Speaker 4: gonna care about physical stuff. You gonna think that that's
Speaker 4: the highest value.
Speaker 3: He had the same situation, was set up in the
Speaker 3: same way and he's just straight up Jester maxing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, God, all these words, that's that's that's more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he does all of this as a completely a joke,
Speaker 4: like ironically, like he is constantly, but he knows all
Speaker 4: the terms.
Speaker 1: They're all talking about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like they're.
Speaker 1: All so you know what in the nineties, would have
Speaker 1: just been a douche twat to bring back a word
Speaker 1: now we're making is now a maxine It would.
Speaker 3: Be it kind of would have been. I mean, truthfully,
Speaker 3: it probably would have been a jock.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but that's the thing. I would argue that
Speaker 1: most jocks that I knew cared more about winning and
Speaker 1: competition and their sport than they cared about how they
Speaker 1: looked doing it. Yeah, the difference in it.
Speaker 4: Jug gonna name names, but let's just say team beat crowd.
Speaker 4: Like we knew men who were in the team beat scene.
Speaker 1: That that's what they care liked being in the team
Speaker 1: beat seam, right, So what.
Speaker 4: They cared about was their clothing and their presentation, and
Speaker 4: that was the goal was to like be the hottest thing,
Speaker 4: and like that was exactly what like I couldn't stand
Speaker 4: to be around.
Speaker 1: That's why we would call them douchebags, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But he has always existed. Well, it's always there, it's
Speaker 1: just but it's like now it's but it seems like
Speaker 1: now it's become the thing.
Speaker 4: Becausecial media has just amped up everybody's obsession with looks
Speaker 4: and superficial you know, presentation in general. So you know,
Speaker 4: people are like kids are, I mean, it's distorting their
Speaker 4: brain to be on a screen and like constantly only
Speaker 4: be engaging with other people in like this context. Right,
Speaker 4: Like if I cared only about my relationship with you
Speaker 4: guys through the screen, man, I would look a lot
Speaker 4: better than I do right now, Like I would put
Speaker 4: an effort into it, right, And so if.
Speaker 1: I guess you're right too. That's all the social media
Speaker 1: and everything that that everybody's doing is it's a visual medium.
Speaker 1: So all you're doing is looking, and sometimes you're looking
Speaker 1: very quickly. So if you're just looking at a tile
Speaker 1: this big, you want abs and whatever because somebody's gonna
Speaker 1: sit by, so you want it to look as good.
Speaker 1: There's no substance to anything. But we never celebrated that before,
Speaker 1: at least as a society.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it's being celebrated right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's kind of being it's like it's a little.
Speaker 2: Being mocked, and it is still still very very niche subculture.
Speaker 2: It's it is not it is not a thing that's
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, it's still a niche subculture right now,
Speaker 2: but it is going to be talked about a lot.
Speaker 2: All that's what this guy Clovicular. No, No, this guy
Speaker 2: Clivicular also has a very polarizing presence. He he's very
Speaker 2: obviously a person who's willing to do almost anything for
Speaker 2: likes and clicks and views, including you know, just behaving
Speaker 2: like a general awful human being. So this isn't someone that,
Speaker 2: like as of right now, is someone most people are
Speaker 2: looking up to. But I did want to read the
Speaker 2: tweet because this is the thing that made me see it.
Speaker 2: That was like, wait, I have to I have to
Speaker 2: know more about this. This was and it makes sense
Speaker 2: if you know the world Clovicular was mid jesture gooning
Speaker 2: when a group of foyds came and spiked his cortisol levels.
Speaker 2: Is ignoring the foids while munting and mogging mooids more
Speaker 2: useful than s MV chad fishing in the club.
Speaker 1: Wow, I got Club. Yeah, so it is. It's just
Speaker 1: it's a full on language. It really full.
Speaker 2: Subculture with its own language that soon, I do think,
Speaker 2: for better or worse, whether it's because it ends up
Speaker 2: being heralded or it becomes something people rebuke, it's going
Speaker 2: it'll be in the lexicon for all of them. We
Speaker 2: won't be It'll be the nose six seven.
Speaker 1: Very quickly. There's the thing these things are happening.
Speaker 4: Like, it's like culture has gotten more intense more quickly,
Speaker 4: and then it sort of fades away.
Speaker 1: Just I feel like.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be like like already six seven feels like
Speaker 4: last year's thing totally, and like, you know, that's what
Speaker 4: I love is like the more the adults start using
Speaker 4: all every time I write down everything that Indy says,
Speaker 4: I keep a list literally on my fridge of all
Speaker 4: these words and I use them all the time, and
Speaker 4: it pisses them off, and then they stops using them.
Speaker 4: You know what it becomes like if the second I
Speaker 4: make it dorky because I'm absorbing it, it's over and
Speaker 4: like because because and I think that's the way these
Speaker 4: things go. Like there are certain ones like man Bro
Speaker 4: has really taken over. Oh yeah, every we just say
Speaker 4: Bro all the time. Which there was a period when
Speaker 4: he was like six or seven. I was like six
Speaker 4: seven when I was like yeah. He still points out
Speaker 4: the license plates will be like six seven. He'll be
Speaker 4: you know, six seven, like indy, that means nothing. It
Speaker 4: means nothing. Why is that a thing?
Speaker 2: Fler says you.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Bro took over eighties? These are eighties, bros.
Speaker 1: Does come back.
Speaker 2: I have an eighties your teenagers.
Speaker 4: Man, that's when you were aware of teenage culture because
Speaker 4: you were a teenager.
Speaker 1: But I played on TV. It's always the same.
Speaker 4: It's like, that's just it's just teenage culture. They have
Speaker 4: to invent their own language. They have to separate and
Speaker 4: isolate themselves from their parents and like break.
Speaker 1: The rules and come up with their own things. Okay,
Speaker 1: So what was yours? What were both of yours? What
Speaker 1: was your six seven or what was the thing that
Speaker 1: you and your friend said all the time? What was
Speaker 1: your vernacular?
Speaker 5: Hella?
Speaker 4: Hella was crusty, crusty, We called good weed killer couche.
Speaker 1: Oh I had we had a whole language, dude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we used to.
Speaker 4: We used to say, if I have no idea, But
Speaker 4: this was a very localized thing. But we used to
Speaker 4: have like if if somebody was like an adult, was
Speaker 4: acting really weird, we'd go unhappy mac noam, and like
Speaker 4: that was our way to say to one another, like.
Speaker 1: Wait, unhappy.
Speaker 2: Happy macnam yep.
Speaker 1: That was and like man like, if I said that
Speaker 1: to Shilah right now, he would.
Speaker 2: Lose uppy a voice note. I'm dying to see what
Speaker 2: he responds back. We had. I mean I was, you know,
Speaker 2: eighty early nineties, dude.
Speaker 3: Rad.
Speaker 1: Coast, West coast cool beans. Oh yeah, cool beans. Somebody
Speaker 1: just said that to me in in an email and
Speaker 1: I was like, what cool cools. Let's bring that back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there a lot, And then you'd add a word like
Speaker 1: easy there, tough, easy there, all down, yeah, easy there,
Speaker 1: all star. You know we did that a lot.
Speaker 2: Don't have a cow.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah that was.
Speaker 4: Don't think about how often we used to quote movies.
Speaker 4: That's all they're doing with memes. Like we used to
Speaker 4: sit around and be.
Speaker 1: Like we would quote, uh what did we quote?
Speaker 5: Will?
Speaker 1: We quoted so many?
Speaker 4: But like weird ones too, Like so I married an
Speaker 4: axe murderer, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Was a big one. Yeah, don't go in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Austin Powers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, doing much Mike Myers, because Mike Myers did Wayne's World,
Speaker 4: which was super quotable. He was a master of like
Speaker 4: coming up with those catchphrases that you know.
Speaker 1: People would just get addicted to.
Speaker 2: Are you send one?
Speaker 4: Am I?
Speaker 1: What am I saying?
Speaker 2: Uh say, I'm doing the podcast.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't give it any context? Send it full send?
Speaker 1: All right? How do I do a voice there? I
Speaker 1: don't do that ship.
Speaker 2: Okay, there's a video, there's a microphone.
Speaker 1: On hamarking them. All right, I'm just sending that.
Speaker 3: The irony of talking about clipicular when writer can't send
Speaker 3: a voicema.
Speaker 2: I'll let me know how that respond how that goes.
Speaker 2: It's very funny.
Speaker 1: He's probably just gonna write L O L or. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think.
Speaker 4: We had so many other ones like Sebastapolad. It's very particular,
Speaker 4: weird like George, Yeah, I'm trying. You know who I
Speaker 4: should really ask his neigh Brewer. He was the king
Speaker 4: of that neigh Brewer and Aaron Graile defined, right, you
Speaker 4: tried tried to start and that one never cut off.
Speaker 1: That was we tried. Yeah, we tried. Oh man, all right,
Speaker 1: we'll see we'll.
Speaker 2: See what he says. Welcome to Hodmeats World. I'm Daniel Fishal,
Speaker 2: I'm right or strong, and.
Speaker 1: I'm Will Vickilar just smortching on the Tim Tam.
Speaker 4: Smortching in the Tim TAM's great. I love that Indian
Speaker 4: I we have a running bit. We have a product
Speaker 4: called shin Tins that we're always doing commercials for and
Speaker 4: we just rip on it.
Speaker 1: It'll be like shins, carry your teeth and make this better.
Speaker 1: And you know, whatever c your teeth by the way.
Speaker 2: Your teeth you mean cure, like the way you cure
Speaker 2: something with a light.
Speaker 1: You know, like I think it's actually cure, like a disease,
Speaker 1: cure that squeak and your teeth shin tins. Shins.
Speaker 2: Well, today we are recapping season seven, episode ten. Guys,
Speaker 2: we're almost halfway through season seven. Possible picket Fences. It
Speaker 2: originally aired November twenty first, nineteen ninety nine. The synopsis
Speaker 2: Corey and Tabanga find themselves in a financial dilemma when
Speaker 2: looking for an apartment, while Jack and Eric get a
Speaker 2: new boss at the student union. It was directed just.
Speaker 1: Because we all know how you feel about the beat story.
Speaker 2: Dad is a well played silence goes a long way.
Speaker 1: Just what that that clip? Forever the way you read boss?
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: Crickets, Oh my gosh. It was directed by Jerry Levine.
Speaker 2: It was written by Erica Montalfo. Before I jump into
Speaker 2: our guest stars, I've shared.
Speaker 1: My overall thoughts, I think we're all agreed. Right again.
Speaker 1: The A story was good, but it was the same
Speaker 1: as last week. Rusty is also way worse this week
Speaker 1: and he was last week. And the B story is
Speaker 1: un It was.
Speaker 4: Funny how we predicted some of these things during our
Speaker 4: recount were friends, which was so nice we predicted and
Speaker 4: because we just actually remember, you know, it was somewhere deep.
Speaker 4: But yes, like a lot we we I mean to
Speaker 4: be fair, like a lot of the things that we
Speaker 4: said should happen did pretty much happen, and or or
Speaker 4: were said, you know, the things were said that we were.
Speaker 1: Like, why aren't they saying this? They did?
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like the episode really bothered me for
Speaker 4: the first half, and then something happened and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I guess this is just the way, and you know,
Speaker 4: I do think this is the Corey to Panga season.
Speaker 1: Like this and like you two has like a duo,
Speaker 1: Like that's cool.
Speaker 4: You know, it's always work, Like I don't think they
Speaker 4: take advantage of it enough, but like I totally forgot
Speaker 4: this dynamic me too. And then there's some really great
Speaker 4: moments like you two on the couch. There's like one
Speaker 4: there's that one scene in the in the in the
Speaker 4: living in your apartment. It's it's long and it goes
Speaker 4: all over the place, but there's a moment with the
Speaker 4: two of you on the couch where I.
Speaker 1: Was like, oh wow, this is like real love.
Speaker 2: This is nice.
Speaker 4: It reacted, it's simple, it's not for the sake of
Speaker 4: a plot. And I was like, wow, I have never
Speaker 4: seen this Coreyan topanga.
Speaker 1: It was adult.
Speaker 2: And it felt calm, It felt non chaotic. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of koreyantopanga dynamic stuff that just feels like frenetic
Speaker 2: and that I know exactly what you're talking about. It
Speaker 2: felt very honest, like we were listening to each other, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, and and not.
Speaker 4: And then the scene proceeds for you guys to do
Speaker 4: like a bit like and that's fine, but that moment
Speaker 4: on the couch was just like, ah, I'm watching two
Speaker 4: people in love. Two characters in love be together and
Speaker 4: talking about their life, and I was like, that's cool
Speaker 4: that more of that would have been nice, you know,
Speaker 4: throughout the whole season or the show, because it makes sense.
Speaker 1: It makes you like Corey and Topanga way anyway.
Speaker 4: You know, It's something that I think I've always taken
Speaker 4: for granted throughout these recaps. Is I don't know, like
Speaker 4: I just never I never thought of the Corey to
Speaker 4: Panga thing as like the essence of boy Meets World,
Speaker 4: and it was in a lot of ways. It's like
Speaker 4: one of the main pillars. And I think part of
Speaker 4: the reason it became like the pillar is because of
Speaker 4: this season, which I forgot, Like this season just is
Speaker 4: about you know, it's why Girl meets World. It was
Speaker 4: what it was because this season sets up Girl meets World.
Speaker 4: It's about Corey and to Panga living on their own
Speaker 4: being trying to figure out being adults in this world.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's really weird though that Like there's that moment when
Speaker 4: the parents literally are like, congratulations, you are a grown.
Speaker 1: Up, Like so this was all a test. But then
Speaker 1: I'm like no, But if you go back to season one,
Speaker 1: there were moments like this.
Speaker 4: He always about the Yeah, it's just really heavy handed
Speaker 4: and manipulative to think about, like parents going this far
Speaker 4: extreme to be like, now you've grown up.
Speaker 1: It's weird, but it's very you know, it's was there
Speaker 1: was Bill not in this hmm.
Speaker 2: He had finals, Yeah.
Speaker 1: You're right, what we're you gonna say? I'm sorry? Interrupted
Speaker 1: just popped into my head.
Speaker 2: No, I was, I was just gonna say I did.
Speaker 2: I feel the same way writer, especially that part where
Speaker 2: he says, you know, he asks, well, would you have
Speaker 2: come to help me fix the pipes? And he's like no.
Speaker 1: It's like no, what why? Why a lesson that gonna
Speaker 1: help me? That's a wild.
Speaker 2: Also, having help doesn't take away from the fact that
Speaker 2: you do something yourself, Like having help doesn't mean you
Speaker 2: don't have the sense of accomplishment. But I did at
Speaker 2: least under I did love the line, and I would
Speaker 2: have Your mother and I fell in love because we
Speaker 2: knew we were capable, and I never would have taken
Speaker 2: that opportunity away from you. I at least loved that idea.
Speaker 2: That sometimes because my parents talk about this too, even
Speaker 2: though you know, married for thirty years and then divorced
Speaker 2: and ruined my life just kidding. My life was not ruined.
Speaker 2: I just think my family was a fraud, But that
Speaker 2: doesn't ruin my life.
Speaker 1: It seems like this is a different, more intense presearch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, therapy.
Speaker 1: No. No.
Speaker 2: My parents when they got married to twenty one had
Speaker 2: practically zero money. They truly My dad was a full
Speaker 2: time college student. He was putting himself through college, and
Speaker 2: he was working two part time jobs to pay for college.
Speaker 2: So he would go to school full time during the day,
Speaker 2: and then one of his jobs was cleaning a bakery
Speaker 2: from midnight to four am.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And then he had a setting up another business job
Speaker 2: from like five am to nine am, and then he
Speaker 2: would get to sleep on some days and then go
Speaker 2: to school all day. And my mom was working at
Speaker 2: a bank, and so they had they had I love
Speaker 2: the story. They had twenty dollars each to spend total
Speaker 2: on food for the week, if groceries or if they
Speaker 2: were had to eat out or get something on the
Speaker 2: go because of the schedule they couldn't come home to eat.
Speaker 2: They had twenty dollars a week, and then whatever they
Speaker 2: could save from that twenty dollars a week they put
Speaker 2: in their individual pots to buy each other a Christmas gift.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's how it shipped. My parents are the same.
Speaker 1: My there's a famous story in our family where they
Speaker 1: had such a small food budget that my dad surprised
Speaker 1: my mom their first year and he bought a beef tenderloin,
Speaker 1: and my mom cried because she's like, it's our whole budget.
Speaker 2: Right, why'd you do this?
Speaker 1: Like, we've got this is what we're eating now for
Speaker 1: a month, We've got nothing else. Yeah, so you could
Speaker 1: be a tenderline last week. Yeah, stretch it out.
Speaker 2: But like when my mom remembers those times and remembers thinking,
Speaker 2: in the moment, this sucks, this is hard, I hate this,
Speaker 2: I can't live like this. This is really difficult. And
Speaker 2: then you know, my dad graduated from college with a
Speaker 2: business degree and worked his way up and before long
Speaker 2: they were upper middle class and had two kids in
Speaker 2: a beautiful house. And my mom looked back at those
Speaker 2: years and said, those are some of the happiest times
Speaker 2: of my life. Yes, they were incredibly hard in the moment,
Speaker 2: but like I look back at that and we learned
Speaker 2: so many of our incredible skills about budgeting and communication,
Speaker 2: and like, so many good things came from that experience,
Speaker 2: and I loved that that was his message that like
Speaker 2: he and Amy had that and he knew that that's
Speaker 2: what was on the other side of it, and he
Speaker 2: didn't want to take that away from them by just
Speaker 2: giving them the easy way out.
Speaker 1: Now I agree with everything you said. I think they
Speaker 1: killed it with the character where when he says, would
Speaker 1: you have come to help me? Plumb, Rusty should have
Speaker 1: said co Absolutely, I'll always give you my knowledge, Like
Speaker 1: if I know how to fix something, of course I'm
Speaker 1: going to help you do that. That's all You're always
Speaker 1: my son. Yeah, and I'm always going to be teaching
Speaker 1: you how to be a man. That's all you need.
Speaker 1: But it said like no, I'm not going to come
Speaker 1: and help you.
Speaker 4: It was like I know what well this was, you know,
Speaker 4: like I feel like we've talked a little bit about
Speaker 4: this and then some people have pointed out to us that,
Speaker 4: like the show is from Corey's point of view.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that whole reading of right.
Speaker 4: And when I that that's what I feel like this
Speaker 4: episode really spoke to me, is like it fell into.
Speaker 1: This like, oh, this is about Corey growing up.
Speaker 4: This is the show about you know, an eleven year
Speaker 4: old boy who's in trouble at school and you know,
Speaker 4: no one pays attention to him figuring life out, And like,
Speaker 4: if I thought about it in those ways, it's like
Speaker 4: a cartoonish because it's so over the top, you know
Speaker 4: that a parent would actually do this to their son.
Speaker 1: But then I was like, oh, but it's it fits.
Speaker 1: It fits the show. It fits the narrative of Boy
Speaker 1: Meets World, you go all the way back.
Speaker 4: So I was like, cool, you know, and and I
Speaker 4: think that like, like you guys are saying, it's a
Speaker 4: nice lesson, you know, like, and it's it's especially nice
Speaker 4: because it counterbalances all the we were meant to be together,
Speaker 4: we're gonna you know, it's like the whole idea of
Speaker 4: ever after, right like once we get married, everything's great.
Speaker 1: And like the fact that our show tackled the idea
Speaker 1: of like no, it's hard, like you know, it's the
Speaker 1: fantasy versus the reality exactly.
Speaker 4: And if Boymans World just ended with their wedding day
Speaker 4: and that was the last episode, it would have been
Speaker 4: like the Cinderella story would have been nothing, you know,
Speaker 4: whereas like now it's something, it's like it's it's it's
Speaker 4: it's at least attempting to wrestle with really great, big issues.
Speaker 1: Well, you also said something really interesting, which is that
Speaker 1: it's it's what it was obviously where Girl Meets World
Speaker 1: came from. You could easily have had Boy Meets World
Speaker 1: not existed. You easily could have gone in and pitched
Speaker 1: this show Corey Intapanga together and pitched it as it's
Speaker 1: Mad about You at nineteen. Yeah, totally, and when it
Speaker 1: would have worked, I mean, that's that would have been
Speaker 1: a whole different sitcom. But it absolutely would have worked.
Speaker 1: And I couldn't agree more about Corey and to Panga
Speaker 1: being very likable and very real. There's a couple of
Speaker 1: moments where it was like, oh, that's not so good,
Speaker 1: but the rest of it was great. And then there's
Speaker 1: the beast story and the story. Oh and I am
Speaker 1: horrible in this episode too. Really, yeah, I hated my
Speaker 1: I'm like so just not into it.
Speaker 2: I only thought you were not into it. In the
Speaker 2: scene with Trina where you're laying no where you're like
Speaker 2: that at the end, at the very end where you're.
Speaker 1: Like it's the only one. I was like, oh, okay
Speaker 1: in that scene.
Speaker 2: I loved the scene of you in Corey and Tepeanga's
Speaker 2: apartment where you're having the conversation with him about like, wait, no, stop,
Speaker 2: why would you have fixed this? I thought you were
Speaker 2: great in that scene.
Speaker 1: I agree. I didn't. It's so I could tell I
Speaker 1: was just badly acting. But you think this was the
Speaker 1: most real I've ever been.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was nice to see you turn it down.
Speaker 1: The subtext was there. That's it. It's not like that.
Speaker 1: But when Nicole said to us, I was supposed to
Speaker 1: do multiple episodes, I didn't realize how blatant it was
Speaker 1: going to be. Where she clearly they didn't it like
Speaker 1: there was no ending to the story. I went down
Speaker 1: to she do it?
Speaker 2: Does she do it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I think I thought she ended up doing two of
Speaker 2: the episode.
Speaker 1: I hope because if that's the end, No, no, because
Speaker 1: isn't the next one? The next one? I saw pop
Speaker 1: ups called what a drag? I think that's where Eric
Speaker 1: and Jack dressed like girls. She's not in that. This
Speaker 1: was it?
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, Jensen just said nope, she's gone.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: The fact that he blamed the b storyline not working
Speaker 2: on her is wild.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, who did what? Who blamed this on her?
Speaker 2: Nicole said when we had her, because Nicole's a formal
Speaker 2: former Pod Meets World guest, said, Michael kept telling her
Speaker 2: all week, you're not doing what I want you to do.
Speaker 2: You're not getting it, You're not getting it. And then
Speaker 2: when he cut, when he took the three episode arc
Speaker 2: away from her, he was like, because you just you're
Speaker 2: not you know, you're not getting it.
Speaker 1: What was there to get?
Speaker 2: Also, she plays that character. She was great perfectly.
Speaker 1: She was great, and the dynamic between her and Jack
Speaker 1: could have gone somewhere and Eric in the background, hello
Speaker 1: maybe hello mo honey, Hello Marac time and I was like,
Speaker 1: what the hell is happening? Is this two in a
Speaker 1: row that are unwatchable, watchable, beat stories, awful, awful, that's
Speaker 1: so creeah, it's so great. I mean also, like you'd
Speaker 1: already done all of this with Rachel, Like we.
Speaker 2: Did a whole season and then last week they did
Speaker 2: this with triplets.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean.
Speaker 5: So this this notion of like maybe we introduce a
Speaker 5: female character and God messes up Jack and Eric what
Speaker 5: Like We've done so many versions of this, Like no,
Speaker 5: at least I mean, well, say what you want about
Speaker 5: the monkey storyline at least.
Speaker 2: I liked the monkey storyline because at least it was
Speaker 2: about two friends who were wildly different helping challenge each
Speaker 2: other to rise to the occasion of adulthood.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay something, it's yeah, this and I get the
Speaker 1: pitch for this. Let's bring in a female Jack. Okay, great, yep,
Speaker 1: that's I understand that really good looking, kind of smarmy
Speaker 1: from a rich, total spoiled rich brat. Wow, that could
Speaker 1: be an interesting story. And then they did this and
Speaker 1: it was like, what the hell is going on? And
Speaker 1: maybe this is the whole thing of well, it would
Speaker 1: have made sense if she was there for three episodes.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got Nicole Eggert, You've got an eighties
Speaker 1: and nineties television mainstay who is doing really well, sorry
Speaker 1: with what she's given and and for something else was
Speaker 1: going on that we don't know about.
Speaker 2: Correct, something else is something else was happening, because it
Speaker 2: doesn't It makes zero sense.
Speaker 1: Something else was going on.
Speaker 2: Jumping into our guest stars former Pod Meets World guest
Speaker 2: as I mentioned, Nicole Eggert is Bridget Eggert burst onto
Speaker 2: the scene in another Michael Jacob's show, Charles in Charge
Speaker 2: as Jamie Powell. She also appeared in seven episodes of
Speaker 2: Who's the Boss, and would later don the iconic red
Speaker 2: swimsuit as a lifeguard on Baywatch. If you remember, Nicole
Speaker 2: told us during her appearance that she was originally told
Speaker 2: this role would have a three episode arc, but was
Speaker 2: asked after this one, so.
Speaker 1: I didn't see where they could add to and I
Speaker 1: think it ended perfectly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, had a nice button. I set a button on
Speaker 2: that story. And then Marisol Nichols returns for her second
Speaker 2: episode as Kelly. We talked about her last week. Probably
Speaker 2: best known as the Audrey Griswold in Vegas Vacation and
Speaker 2: from her time on Riverdale and Joe Anne Worley is Missus. Stevens.
Speaker 2: Warley is famous in the generation of those who maybe
Speaker 2: loved the Monkeys and watched Happy Days. She was one
Speaker 2: of the stars of laugh In, a massive comedy variety
Speaker 2: show that ran from nineteen sixty eight to nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 1: What was Laughing? It was like a did you watch it? Will?
Speaker 1: It was? Well, no, I was. I was very young
Speaker 1: in sixty eight. It was, Uh, it's all old TV.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't watch it time last. It's
Speaker 1: like the variety shows.
Speaker 4: What is there used to be variety shows?
Speaker 2: Oh, Sonny and Share Show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all variety. I never saw any of the music guests.
Speaker 2: It's when you had to be a triple threat to
Speaker 2: be in entertainment. It's so cool original, right.
Speaker 1: That would still be a thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, sabrina Christmas Special is a bit of a variety show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sabrinas Muppets, Sabrina's Muppets show.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, people who can do it all used to
Speaker 2: do hour long shows a wildly entertaining the.
Speaker 4: Calburnett too, right, like she correct, Yeah, it's that's like.
Speaker 1: A variety show. They've tried it. They've tried it.
Speaker 3: The Osbourne's had one, Jessica nick Lasche had one. I
Speaker 3: mean it's it's failed a couple of times.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't Yeah, it doesn't work anymore. I'm translated anymore.
Speaker 2: But kids TV fans may recognize her as Aunt Beulah
Speaker 2: on Sabrina and the Teenage Witch or Maggie on Wizards
Speaker 2: of Waverley Place. She would also morph into a voiceover legend.
Speaker 2: She was Wardrobe in the nineteen ninety one Beauty in
Speaker 2: the Beast movie, Miss Maples in the Goofy movie and
Speaker 2: a co worker of Will's on Kim Possible. Was she
Speaker 2: that's what it says.
Speaker 1: Oh god, I loved working with her. I remember it.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Yes, great, we never recorded with anybody. There's three that room,
Speaker 1: I know. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Jumping into our recap, we are in Angela, Rachel and
Speaker 2: Sean's apartment. I can't wait until we get to the.
Speaker 1: It was so funny.
Speaker 2: We just made so much fun of it at the
Speaker 2: end of the last episode about not being able to
Speaker 2: keep keep tracking, then being like, all right, so now
Speaker 2: it's this, all right, let's remember it.
Speaker 1: And then the next episode, who's coming. We need one
Speaker 1: of those like investigation boards with all the lines.
Speaker 4: Just to track the apartment, Like if if one of
Speaker 4: our listeners wants to dive deep and write out a
Speaker 4: diagram of.
Speaker 2: This apartment a family tree.
Speaker 1: A family tree going all the way back to Turners. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the same apartment. Let's be honest. It's has every character,
Speaker 1: not the adults, but all the younger characters. Has every
Speaker 1: character lived there, every other character at some point.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, that's everybody and everybody everyone Will us has
Speaker 4: lived in the.
Speaker 2: Has lived in the army episode.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the last episode he was he was
Speaker 4: expecting to live there, and then yeah he's there.
Speaker 1: I mean he's the kid in this room and kick
Speaker 1: him out. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So Sean and Angela are setting the table for dinner,
Speaker 2: catching up on their day. Angela gives him a kiss
Speaker 2: and asks, are the kids all tucked in? He grins,
Speaker 2: All tucked in? Mommy and daddy can have some together time.
Speaker 2: The inmates hoot and holler at the innuendo, and now
Speaker 2: at the dinner table, Angela wonders, when was the last
Speaker 2: time we had a moment alone? Sean notes, certainly before
Speaker 2: the kids came. Angela lets out a sigh. Yeah, life
Speaker 2: was better then on cue, Corey and Tapega walk out
Speaker 2: of their bedroom, frowning and wearing button up pj's. Sean admits, honey,
Speaker 2: I hate the kids. Corey complains, we're still hungry, and
Speaker 2: to Panga's eyes widened as she points at the dining
Speaker 2: room table and yells like a caveman spaghetti. The couple
Speaker 2: sprints to the food, and Corey cheerfully wonders, do you
Speaker 2: have any baked goods or frozen treats? Angela is not amused.
Speaker 2: You're our closest friends, but we are sick and tired
Speaker 2: of you. Shawn ads, please get out and don't ever
Speaker 2: come back. Corey and Tapanga focus on spoonfuls of spaghetti
Speaker 2: and Corey laughs. They crack me up, these two, but
Speaker 2: Tapanga gets the message, maybe we should go back to
Speaker 2: our Corey asks whole are dump our sewer. Sean steps in.
Speaker 2: We'd love to hang out with you guys forever, but
Speaker 2: right now you're on this new marriage thing and we're
Speaker 2: on this new living together thing. Angela tries to relate.
Speaker 2: They're both couples, they're the same. But Shawn ads, you're
Speaker 2: married and we're happy. Sean puts his foot down, get out.
Speaker 2: They're serious. Corey nods. They understand. In fact, they never
Speaker 2: want to impose on their little life of sin.
Speaker 6: This is such a weird chair, so weird life actually
Speaker 6: sluts is wild.
Speaker 1: I don't understand, Like I still am. Like, so Sean
Speaker 1: moved into a different room than Angela.
Speaker 4: Yes, because there's three bedrooms and his own bedroom right
Speaker 4: in the same apartment.
Speaker 1: With his girlfriend, right, but now I think he's living
Speaker 1: You're sleeping on the floor in Angela's room, right, because
Speaker 1: to take it over and now we're going to kick
Speaker 1: you out, and I'm going to go back to that
Speaker 1: empty room.
Speaker 2: God, he can have my own room. Honestly, I do
Speaker 2: think the key to a happy marriage of separate houses.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna pull that out there. To Pega venomously
Speaker 2: spits out, you make me sick. Corey scals sluts, slats.
Speaker 2: Is this the closest thing to a curse word? We
Speaker 2: get the dom triplets and then sluts and.
Speaker 1: Maybe when she says, I wouldn't use this to wipe
Speaker 1: my at those three things and it's all season seven
Speaker 1: phase do funny.
Speaker 2: They start their exits still wearing pj's and to Pega
Speaker 2: explains they'll just hang out with their other friends. Cory asks,
Speaker 2: you think you're our only friends in the world to
Speaker 2: Panga Pipes and well you're not. In Corey ads because
Speaker 2: we are a beloved couple. Sean's shuts the door in
Speaker 2: their faces without a second thought.
Speaker 1: It was strange to watch this that part of the
Speaker 1: scene knowing you had to pee. That's right, this is
Speaker 1: one of her one of our outtakes. As you right
Speaker 1: out there going like I have to pee's so I'm
Speaker 1: much to see the whole time going, Daniel has to.
Speaker 2: Be that's hilarious. Outside in the hallway, Corey whispers to Tapanga,
Speaker 2: you got any other friends? She responds, no, you, He whispers,
Speaker 2: shouts no, why would we do that? What are we
Speaker 2: going to do now? Topanga has no idea. Then we're
Speaker 2: in the student union. Angela and Rachel are sitting on
Speaker 2: the couch giggling, and Rachel confesses, I've never seen you
Speaker 2: so happy. What do we think? She whispers to her.
Speaker 2: Do we think it's some?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's horribly sexy and dirty? Right okay, right
Speaker 1: in my head, I won't.
Speaker 2: Even say, oh, really, wow, I love that you.
Speaker 1: Oh they were crazy stuff too? Well, everyone's a slut?
Speaker 2: No, true, I mean I did. I did obviously go
Speaker 2: she said something sexual about Sean, but I didn't actually
Speaker 2: go as far as to imagine.
Speaker 1: What it was. Girls talk about that stuff with other
Speaker 1: girls way more than guys talk about that stuff with
Speaker 1: O for sure, like way more like it's detail stuff
Speaker 1: with girls.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that when you're when you're younger, yes, yes, no,
Speaker 2: even yes, even okay, hold on you think.
Speaker 4: Now to yes on, hold on detail like I've asked
Speaker 4: Alex and be like wait, you guys compare notes on
Speaker 4: and like yes, I'm like Jesus.
Speaker 2: Wow, yes, wait do you think that's the case if
Speaker 2: there's like maybe something they're asking an opinion on, like
Speaker 2: I need I want to share something because I want
Speaker 2: to know how you guys feel about it and okay
Speaker 2: and not just like oh god, you writer, had we
Speaker 2: been to like not.
Speaker 1: That, like we don't do my wife my wife?
Speaker 4: No? Okay, friends, yes, friends of ours are like that
Speaker 4: in a sort of somewhat jokey way, or like they'll
Speaker 4: talk about hot guys like you know, like yeah, like
Speaker 4: in a way that I'm like if my guy friends
Speaker 4: don't ever.
Speaker 1: Talk about No, but you and I are very close
Speaker 1: and we're not having full on graphic sexual conversations whatever,
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen, you know. It's definitely women do that. Well,
Speaker 1: hold on, just.
Speaker 2: Women do that? They do, they can, they have I'm
Speaker 2: sure and there are I think to Writer's point, there
Speaker 2: are some women who are more comfortable about doing that.
Speaker 2: I would never unless it was I'm concerned. There's what
Speaker 2: are you laughing about?
Speaker 3: I'm just.
Speaker 1: Do your friends do you sit You have a lot
Speaker 1: of girlfriends do will you sit there? And they talk
Speaker 1: about sex stuff.
Speaker 4: No, I I feel like my wife tends to know
Speaker 4: the regularity of everybody else's sex life because women talk
Speaker 4: about that, they talk about and they're having sex or worse,
Speaker 4: it's like it's too much, it's too little whatever. That
Speaker 4: is a top of a conversation which I never have
Speaker 4: with my guy friends, Like no one's ever talking about like, yeah, no,
Speaker 4: it's it's I do have friends.
Speaker 2: That that will that will say things about like I'm
Speaker 2: in you know, we're we have a couple's therapists and
Speaker 2: it's been really good for us and we we do
Speaker 2: now schedule sex, which has been better for us, Like
Speaker 2: that kind of conversation. I don't have any friends that
Speaker 2: guys don't.
Speaker 4: Even have that let's start. I mean that's like, that's
Speaker 4: distinction number one. I don't think really we talk about
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: As boldly as we're going to say, well, women talk
Speaker 2: about that, I could also very boldly say, well, men's relation,
Speaker 2: men's male friendships? Do you talk about anything of substance?
Speaker 2: And yet and yes on this call, I know the
Speaker 2: answer to be yes. But there are quite lots of yes,
Speaker 2: quite a few male friendships that actually don't they talk
Speaker 2: about sports, what happened on the news, and and there's
Speaker 2: really that is how they feel like there, I had
Speaker 2: my friend time. But they're not actually talking about emotional
Speaker 2: feelings or personal or personal experiences or relationships. That's so
Speaker 2: absolutely you know, I think I think we're.
Speaker 1: Talking about other of their male friends behind one male
Speaker 1: friend's back.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: They don't do that either.
Speaker 2: They don't do that there, don't you know.
Speaker 4: But it's interesting because when I think about when I
Speaker 4: was younger, will like, think about being a teenager, you did.
Speaker 6: Talk about everything all the time, and you talked about
Speaker 6: that hopefully when you're nineteen, right right, but but that
Speaker 6: what you do have like that guy friendship where I
Speaker 6: mean like we would talk about sex, like we would
Speaker 6: talk about like.
Speaker 1: Then and you're like, okay, you know, I don't write,
Speaker 1: I want to hear exactly to know that.
Speaker 2: So much about why you share that stuff though, is
Speaker 2: like where else are you supposed to learn it?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Like when I remember knowing that my friends had started
Speaker 2: having whether it was kissing or then beyond kissing with guys,
Speaker 2: and it was like, great, thank you tell me everything?
Speaker 1: And so you did what with what? And how like
Speaker 1: you the internet?
Speaker 2: So I know exactly telling you.
Speaker 1: How to do it. Oh god, I just have Susan
Speaker 1: sign a NDA every morning, so it's just the easiest
Speaker 1: week day everyone new one. I just have a slack
Speaker 1: a stack of them by the bed and like, here's today's.
Speaker 2: Okay, Angela can't wipe the smile off her face. That's
Speaker 2: because I haven't been. And so Rachel reveals that's why,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to get in the way of you
Speaker 2: and Sean. I'm gonna move out. Here we are again
Speaker 2: in that same storyline that also didn't make sense the
Speaker 2: first time. Why does she have to move through three bedrooms?
Speaker 4: Three bedrooms and she's going to get out of the way,
Speaker 4: so it just becomes Sean and Angela's apartment.
Speaker 1: Now, is that really what happens?
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's what that's what.
Speaker 1: That's what happens. You're going to double my rent.
Speaker 4: So now I don't get Like I was watching this episode,
Speaker 4: and especially by the end, I was like, but wait,
Speaker 4: Sean and Angela are going to break up in like
Speaker 4: ten episodes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't. It's so weird.
Speaker 2: But don't worry. By the end of this episode, you're
Speaker 2: no longer living there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't matter anyway, because everybody has the pinnacle
Speaker 1: of marriage, which is just leaning against your partner on
Speaker 1: some kind of couch and reading a paper. That's Alan
Speaker 1: and Amy do it. This is It's like if this
Speaker 1: is it, this is ultimate marriage. You're reading over my
Speaker 1: shoulder and I'm a little sweaty on this side.
Speaker 2: Sit over there, Yeah, space, get in, go to your house.
Speaker 1: Someday you are going to have separates.
Speaker 2: I would do it immediately. I would have I would
Speaker 2: have done it the day we got married. Cheucer, are
Speaker 2: you going to live in? I love separate houses. Get
Speaker 2: out of mind. I want just MySpace. Just you don't
Speaker 2: need to share that much. Angela is shocked. She insists Rachel,
Speaker 2: she's not in the way. Rachel shrugs.
Speaker 1: I know I'm not.
Speaker 2: But I got this offer to be a resident advisor
Speaker 2: at Britney Hall and I thought it'd be fun. Angela
Speaker 2: promises she doesn't need to move out. It's not like
Speaker 2: she and Sean are a family. Set upset, upset up
Speaker 2: on cue, Sean is tugged through the door by a
Speaker 2: massive Saint Bernard. I didn't remember this dog being on
Speaker 2: set at all.
Speaker 1: This dog.
Speaker 4: This began my love for big dogs, because I remember
Speaker 4: like hanging out with this dog all week or whatever
Speaker 4: the couple days, and I remember.
Speaker 1: Lying on him or her. This was a hymn. I
Speaker 1: think it was a hymn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember lying like, it's just I fell in
Speaker 4: love with it having a big dog, so I ended up.
Speaker 4: You know, my the only dog I've ever had as
Speaker 4: an adult was a Bernie Mountain dog, and it was
Speaker 4: in part because I loved having a big dog because
Speaker 4: of that.
Speaker 1: I remember that because I couldn't get up in between
Speaker 1: takes when the dog was lying on me, so the
Speaker 1: whole time in front of the audience, I just laid
Speaker 1: there in between every take with the dog. And that
Speaker 1: dog cute has been dead for years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's thank you for sharing that with us. That's
Speaker 2: a good thing. Look, Angela, I got us a baby.
Speaker 2: Angela rushes over and pets the cute dog, and Sean notes,
Speaker 2: now it's like we got our own family. Rachel watches
Speaker 2: on and just announces I'm going to be an ra.
Speaker 2: Sean responds, good.
Speaker 1: For you, and it's the weirdest good for you reaction,
Speaker 1: Like you can't tell us he joking, is he not?
Speaker 1: It is the strangest reading.
Speaker 2: It was just like what this was just this is
Speaker 2: like the writers just got to what we're there, like
Speaker 2: what do we do with this character?
Speaker 1: But what do we do?
Speaker 4: This whole scene is like a weird like sub Boy
Speaker 4: meets World because it's like.
Speaker 1: These three just don't like it doesn't that's a weird beat.
Speaker 1: That was I'm gonna be an ra good.
Speaker 4: For you for you?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then the dog bar and rushes out the door, pulling
Speaker 2: Sean along with him. Angela and Rachel follow closely behind
Speaker 2: to the park. Then we see Eric, dressed in his
Speaker 2: work uniform, wiping down a table. A pretty girl walks by,
Speaker 2: and his mind instantly turns to mush as he follows her.
Speaker 2: Pretty girl, Pretty girl. She turns around and simply asks
Speaker 2: him it stands and jump up on the couch.
Speaker 1: Jump up on the couch, make a fight. He pulls
Speaker 1: the top hat off cases. Yeah, it's oh god. Do
Speaker 1: you think everything went down hail with these three characters?
Speaker 1: When Jack and Rachel and Eric no longer live together,
Speaker 1: I guess like if they just kept them in the
Speaker 1: same apartment the whole time for the Beast stories, then
Speaker 1: maybe Maitland would have something to do and Jack and
Speaker 1: Eric would have something. The second they split him up,
Speaker 1: it was like, then what was the point? Yeah, because
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be Corey shown that whole click
Speaker 1: and then and now you're breaking us up? So what
Speaker 1: the hell is the point of doing?
Speaker 4: And there's so much more they could have done because
Speaker 4: they spent so much time just on the love triangle
Speaker 4: between the three of you.
Speaker 1: But what if they introduced another guy, another girl.
Speaker 4: But there's things you could have done at that apartment,
Speaker 4: like the regular like apartment living, roommate situations.
Speaker 1: You can easily have given Maitland something to do to
Speaker 1: where it's like she's with Jack, she really likes Jack,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden she's starting to have
Speaker 1: feelings for Eric and Eric doesn't feel the same way now.
Speaker 1: And I mean, there's so many ways to play with that,
Speaker 1: and they just went.
Speaker 2: Nah, Yeah, Well, I definitely I don't think watching the
Speaker 2: season of Boy Meets World that what we're missing is
Speaker 2: more characters. I am not getting the vibe. Then bringing
Speaker 2: in another guy I tried though into season seven would
Speaker 2: have helped.
Speaker 1: It worked in this episode with Nicole Eggert.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting that we just dropped school completely, like
Speaker 4: there's nothing about college.
Speaker 1: Is education learned eighth grade history? Last episode? It's true bag, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's what Alaska became the fiftieth state. I mean
Speaker 1: there's a lot to do in college, right, Like just
Speaker 1: this is just our hangout spot. Yeah.
Speaker 2: She asks who's in charge here? Eric creepily responds, you
Speaker 2: are now do things to me?
Speaker 1: Iw esus ill.
Speaker 2: Thankfully, Jack intervenes, but he's just as awkward. Introducing himself
Speaker 2: as the student union manager. He boasts that everything she
Speaker 2: sees is managed by him. The store manager. Eric doesn't
Speaker 2: appreciate Jack's interruptions, so he jumps back in bedwetter. You
Speaker 2: can tell her Jack, She's gonna find out anyway. Eric
Speaker 2: finally asks the new girl's name, and she matter of
Speaker 2: factly states, I'm your new boss. Eric's still resourced.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just give her a Southern ax.
Speaker 2: It's the same storyline, same same story. Eric repeats name, name, name, name,
Speaker 2: name name. She composes herself and says name is Bridget.
Speaker 2: Over to be funny girl, pretty girl, pretty girl.
Speaker 1: It's all it's crazy, It's like, what's happening.
Speaker 2: Name is Bridget Murphy. Eric grabs her hand and kisses it.
Speaker 2: Murphy like the bed. Jack interjects to understandably say vomit.
Speaker 2: Eric trudges on, If I may be so bold, how
Speaker 2: did somebody I can't even imitate you? How did somebody
Speaker 2: as you get to be manager of the student union.
Speaker 1: I want to see what this page looked like written?
Speaker 4: What was written in that spot yet?
Speaker 1: And also I wondered if it was in the script
Speaker 1: that you take her hand.
Speaker 4: Like you do right, because it's such a funny.
Speaker 1: It's so funny, And I'm like, did we'll just do that?
Speaker 1: Or is it in the script and grabs her hand?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wanted to see this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she smiles. I know a guy, Jack asks who,
Speaker 2: and she brags, so may call him the chancellor of
Speaker 2: this university. I, however, like to call him daddy.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 2: Why did anyone on the writing staff think that the
Speaker 2: chancellor of this university was gonna have give the audience
Speaker 2: some sort of like.
Speaker 1: Not Chancellor Murphy, not Chancellor Murphy. Yeah, none of it.
Speaker 4: No, I mean really it should be you know, my
Speaker 4: uncle Feene you know already done obviously, but like any
Speaker 4: sort of yeah, because right now there's creating.
Speaker 2: A cameras my dad William, my dad.
Speaker 1: His other family. None of it makes none of it
Speaker 1: made any sense. You also wonder if she was supposed
Speaker 1: to do three episodes and only did this one, was
Speaker 1: he going to come back? And also like how how
Speaker 1: was it planned? Because if what a drag is next,
Speaker 1: which is clearly Jack and Eric spending their time as
Speaker 1: that's the a story is we're dressed like women to
Speaker 1: avoid a bully. She wasn't in that anyway, so he
Speaker 1: probably was originally. I mean, yeah, they must have had
Speaker 1: sound plan to have this love triangle going on, but
Speaker 1: literally ends with me dropping on a frame to suck
Speaker 1: her toe. That's the last stop, saying it please, the
Speaker 1: last we see her to me, Danielle, me sucking on
Speaker 1: toes or spiders. You've got one room or another room.
Speaker 1: The last room is just is just spiders, and the
Speaker 1: right room is just me sucking feet. And you've gotta
Speaker 1: pick one. Which room do you take? Take one?
Speaker 2: I take the toe room, absolutely, But boy, oh boy,
Speaker 2: I don't want to think about it.
Speaker 4: She'd be vomiting the whole time. Oh god, oh god,
Speaker 4: should we look up Nicole Eggert on wicked feet feet?
Speaker 2: Eric leans in and seductively quips, I like to call
Speaker 2: him daddy too. Jack grabs his friend by the ear
Speaker 2: with a warning. Her father is Chancellor Murphy.
Speaker 1: Chance off, I'm Chancellor Murphy. Got the way with its.
Speaker 2: Bridget laughs, that's right, boys, Nepotism rears its ugly head.
Speaker 2: Eric Hoffson complains, nepotism. It's nepotism. Jack see's right through him.
Speaker 2: You don't even know what that means. Eric instantly shouts,
Speaker 2: why should I. Bridget's happy to explain, I own you.
Speaker 2: I can do anything I want with you, and I
Speaker 2: probably will because I'm a spoilt little brat who always
Speaker 2: gets her way. Just thanks tell for you are.
Speaker 4: Like literally well, think about the first line she's Eric says,
Speaker 4: is if you're in charge, I'll do whatever you want.
Speaker 4: It's like and it seems like a joke, but that
Speaker 4: is story. That is the extended the story. It's there's
Speaker 4: no nuance, there's no human character nothing, there's no regular behavior.
Speaker 1: It's just literally low.
Speaker 2: Also, her arrival and presence doesn't change either one of
Speaker 2: them in the slightest like there isn't some nothing just
Speaker 2: it's on.
Speaker 1: It's the it's it's the most pointless storylining character we've
Speaker 1: ever had on the show, like ever, the bear had
Speaker 1: more to do. It's so weird.
Speaker 2: Eric seems excited by this, but Jack keeps him grounded.
Speaker 2: They sit down next to her on the couch and
Speaker 2: simultaneously cross their legs. Eric announces, so far, I don't
Speaker 2: hear anything I don't like. She nods, good, go clean
Speaker 2: the toilets. He giggles and runs off. Thank you. What
Speaker 2: are you laughing?
Speaker 5: Out?
Speaker 4: Writer like, yeah, no, sorry, go on.
Speaker 1: I missed the monkey.
Speaker 3: I missed the monkey story.
Speaker 1: Sounds like a fully fledged, wonderful character developed peace compared
Speaker 1: to this. This that's like an Academy award.
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, give the Emmy posthumously the Emmy. Give
Speaker 2: the Monkey episode of the.
Speaker 1: Organ Grinder and the Monkey is like, man, that was
Speaker 1: just high quality. Is there is there a part of
Speaker 1: you that's slightly impressed that they did worse than the
Speaker 1: best story last week? I know not, there's a part
Speaker 1: of me that was almost like this is this is impressive?
Speaker 1: This is impressive. I didn't think it was possible, but
Speaker 1: this is impressive.
Speaker 6: Just when I think they can't top themselves, there's another
Speaker 6: bottom to this bay.
Speaker 1: I forgot there's a floor under east the bottom of
Speaker 1: the barrel. So bad.
Speaker 2: Bridget turns her focus to Jack. I understand it must
Speaker 2: be somewhat embarrassing for you, having once held this position.
Speaker 2: And now we get a little bit. I don't get
Speaker 2: she's becoming the manager.
Speaker 1: Okay, because the chancellor of the school can place his
Speaker 1: daughter in the manager of the study store, which is.
Speaker 2: A very high pay, and we all know Chanler Murphy's power.
Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, I love this little bit of just
Speaker 2: shaming her for her body too. Jack explains, no, I'm okay.
Speaker 2: What would be embarrassing, though, is if I let some
Speaker 2: obviously spoiled She said it so yes, yep, and surgically
Speaker 2: augmented little daddy skirl ruffle my feathers.
Speaker 1: I think it just meant he knew that she was
Speaker 1: born with a vestigial tail, right, she had it, she
Speaker 1: had it removed. That's what he was talking about. I
Speaker 1: gotta go for the subtext, Daniel. This is high important,
Speaker 1: deep stuff.
Speaker 2: That's just something that happens to every rich kid. Because
Speaker 2: how did he know that? Because does one.
Speaker 1: Comes with money?
Speaker 2: She's intrigued. Are you gonna kiss me?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: Jack is unfazed. I'm gonna kiss you.
Speaker 1: Never by the way, their kids would be studding gorgeous,
Speaker 1: I mean studding.
Speaker 2: Do you think I don't understand good looks and a
Speaker 2: rich daddy. Yeah, you and I are cut from the
Speaker 2: same velvet cloth, Miss Bridget. He assures her. I know
Speaker 2: how to protect myself from you, and I know how
Speaker 2: to protect my friends too. On cue, Eric marches back
Speaker 2: out to declare toilets are clean. Boss, oh and hey look.
Speaker 2: He places a plunger on his head and brings back
Speaker 2: a version of the cartman voice. I'm at teletubby. Bridget
Speaker 2: is seemingly pleased with her brainless employee, and Jack is embarrassed.
Speaker 2: He's not my friend. Eric is still balancing the plunger
Speaker 2: on his head. Not the purple one though a little
Speaker 2: bit of gay panic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also ad libbed gay panic. That was on me.
Speaker 2: You give yourself credit for that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I ad lib that line like the second or
Speaker 1: third take, which is why you heard people laugh, because
Speaker 1: it was just in the zeitgeist about it was Jerry
Speaker 1: Folwell or somebody at the time coming out saying like
Speaker 1: the purple teletubby is clearly gay, This anamorphous blob of
Speaker 1: a thing, like, well, you know what it was because
Speaker 1: they hadn't know it had to try. They all had
Speaker 1: weird things. They had shifts on their head and it
Speaker 1: was an upside down triangle on the purple one. And
Speaker 1: he was like, well, that obviously means gay. And it
Speaker 1: was like, oh and so that, yeah, that became a
Speaker 1: whole thing. So yeah, that was me. I would love
Speaker 1: to blame the writers for that one, but I completely
Speaker 1: and totally threw out a gay panic joke and.
Speaker 2: Take credit for that.
Speaker 4: I do, I do well.
Speaker 2: Now in an empty, brand new house, Corey has walked
Speaker 2: to Panga into the living room, covering her eyes. He
Speaker 2: finally reveals to her their location, a spacious, newly painted
Speaker 2: home for sale. Behold our future. Two bedrooms, two bathrooms,
Speaker 2: a kitchen, and some kind of nook to Panga is baffled,
Speaker 2: Why would you take us here? Why would you take
Speaker 2: us to this house we could never afford?
Speaker 4: Okay, I got a response from Shiloh, Oh great, unhappy
Speaker 4: mcnam amazing.
Speaker 1: What did that come from? Feels like it was a
Speaker 1: Nate Brewer invention.
Speaker 2: Oh you said, yep, all right, funny. Now you got
Speaker 2: to reach out to Nate and ask.
Speaker 1: Him if that was his he's just gonna write back
Speaker 1: new phone. Who dis I'll send him the same thing.
Speaker 1: Unhappy mcnam.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: See what he says. Have you, by the way, have
Speaker 1: you seen the thing? I think I sent it to
Speaker 1: you both. It was either on Instagram or one of
Speaker 1: the other things about the Are you going to get
Speaker 1: into that.
Speaker 2: We do have the clip. Yeah, we have the clip.
Speaker 2: We're going to play it for everyone. Okay, good, you'll
Speaker 2: see you'll see it, writer, you'll see writer. I love
Speaker 2: that there's always some dynamic where two of us know
Speaker 2: what's going on and the other one has and we're
Speaker 2: always like you just told you, you'll find out.
Speaker 1: We get it breaks down like in those situations.
Speaker 4: How much of our audience is on the side of
Speaker 4: the knowers and how much of the audience is on
Speaker 4: the unknown?
Speaker 1: Like, how much of an audience do you think.
Speaker 2: Knows about Clovicular You want an actual guess, I would
Speaker 2: say of our audience where I think the smallest percentage
Speaker 2: of our listeners are twenty five and younger. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: would say two percent of our listeners know about Clivikiler.
Speaker 4: Okay, Really, I think it's in the zeitgeist.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's something I ever heard of. This
Speaker 1: is honestly sounds like something you need to take medicine for.
Speaker 2: We could do a poll.
Speaker 1: We just have do have articular Are we making this
Speaker 1: guy it's a guy, it's a guy guy? Can we
Speaker 1: making this guy more famous by doing this?
Speaker 2: No, No, we're not going to put a picture of
Speaker 2: him or any of that. We're just going to do
Speaker 2: a poll.
Speaker 1: Have you had you heard just sent back about ten hearts?
Speaker 2: Oh? He loves it?
Speaker 1: Was that?
Speaker 2: Was that a him invention?
Speaker 5: I think so?
Speaker 1: I mean we used to say it all the time,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: God's cute. He still asks if we could afford it?
Speaker 1: Do you like it?
Speaker 2: She crosses her arms. We can't afford it.
Speaker 1: We're all He's had a textback. We're all just Bozo's
Speaker 1: on the bus, which is something I don't remember.
Speaker 4: He's he's going deeper.
Speaker 1: Oh no, gosh, she.
Speaker 2: Got Maybe he needs to say it to you. Maybe
Speaker 2: if you heard it in a voice, you would know
Speaker 2: what it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe the ten hearts mean means you having heart problems.
Speaker 2: He begs her, don't do that, you're becoming a negative
Speaker 2: little missy. Tapega explains, it is just cruel to take
Speaker 2: a person who's this close to losing it, this close
Speaker 2: and taunt her with this cute, little, adorable house which
Speaker 2: she'll never ever live in. And I realized here in
Speaker 2: the scene that Tapega is wearing an exact outfit Danielle
Speaker 2: would wear today, just really cute sweater jeans with a
Speaker 2: little bit of a flare at the bottom, and a
Speaker 2: cute pair of shoes, so tennis shoes.
Speaker 1: I also have to say, except maybe season one, season
Speaker 1: seven to Panga is arguably my favorite Tapanga.
Speaker 2: Oh agreed. There are some moments that are just there
Speaker 2: are some moments that are weird aside from her for
Speaker 2: you know, making excuses for Corey's weird behavior. I don't understand,
Speaker 2: like in the coming up where I go liyap Liyeah,
Speaker 2: those are just like Michael, I am like Michael read yes,
Speaker 2: Like I don't get that. But I do, in general
Speaker 2: love this version of her.
Speaker 1: Yes, she has character agency and you're having yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's and hitting your like you're finding jokes where there
Speaker 1: aren't any and we're just playing more and yeah, this
Speaker 1: this this works for Tapanga.
Speaker 2: I agree. Thank you, Corey Gritts. So you like this house?
Speaker 2: She screams at the top of her lungs, I love
Speaker 2: this house. Why would you do this to me? And
Speaker 2: then a brightly dressed lady appears atop the stairs and
Speaker 2: cheerfully chirps hello, you must be my happy happy.
Speaker 1: But he told the audience to go crazy crazy. Don't
Speaker 1: you remember her kids from laughing? This is such a
Speaker 1: weird tradition on our show.
Speaker 4: I guess sitcoms in general they're like cookie side character
Speaker 4: for one scene with a big voice. Because we did
Speaker 4: like the wedding planner, yep, we had. I just feel
Speaker 4: like this is such a trope initcoms.
Speaker 2: It is a sitcom trope for sure, and by the way,
Speaker 2: potential for great drive buys, and in this case, I
Speaker 2: think it is a great drive by. For example the
Speaker 2: hair cutting episode, Oh wow, you know that's a talk
Speaker 2: about a perfect drive buy. So it is a trope
Speaker 2: for a reason, because when it works, it works well,
Speaker 2: it works well.
Speaker 1: Isn't there an Emmy for that? Isn't I think there's
Speaker 1: a guest star Emmy. Isn't there?
Speaker 2: Yes? I think there is.
Speaker 1: It always goes to like the most famous person, right
Speaker 1: of course, like Lane guest stars like on Star trek right.
Speaker 2: Tpanga asks if she's the real estate agent, and the
Speaker 2: lady chuckles, oh, yes, i am. We love that. But
Speaker 2: she greats blinds down the stairban and start to close
Speaker 2: the door and introduce herself, Edith Stevens, at your service,
Speaker 2: Oh how much do you love this breathtaking starter cottage
Speaker 2: with an ook? Do we think it's weird that Corey
Speaker 2: didn't bother to let his mother know the possible real
Speaker 2: estate agent herself?
Speaker 1: Exactly? Well, mom says the house, skip the household and
Speaker 1: then fill it with art.
Speaker 2: Yeah, ex that's right, it's the joy. Topanga threatens the agent.
Speaker 2: I'm reporting you to the Better Business Bureau. Immediately, the
Speaker 2: woman is confused. Whatever for Topeka points to Corey, this
Speaker 2: man's a dope. You knew that after a few minutes
Speaker 2: of talking with him, and then you led him to
Speaker 2: believe we could afford this house when the truth is
Speaker 2: he can barely afford a sandwich. Edith laughs, My dear missus, Matthews,
Speaker 2: it is my joy to place young couples and cozy
Speaker 2: surroundings such as these. She grabs Corey into Panka's hands
Speaker 2: tight like most other couples. You think, I can't afford it.
Speaker 2: She then raises their hands high in the air and screeches,
Speaker 2: but you can. I just I've thoroughly enjoyed this.
Speaker 1: She's she's great.
Speaker 2: Tapanga is dumbfounded. How could they possibly afford an eighty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars house? Wow, the lady grins, very simple, over
Speaker 2: thirty years, I've already explained it to your husband. And
Speaker 2: she scratches Corey's chin, which is a decision. Tapega commands
Speaker 2: the lady, I told you not to talk to him.
Speaker 2: Corey argues, she can talk to me, and the agent degrees, yeah,
Speaker 2: I can talk to him. She turns to Corey and
Speaker 2: sings out the instructions. Remember, just a trifle of a
Speaker 2: down payment and a pittance of a mortgage and two
Speaker 2: living parents with a pen who can sign. This is
Speaker 2: the scene writer that has become social media fodder.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Thirty years later, here is Instagram user Freddie Smith. He
Speaker 2: is at FMS MIH three one nine updating everything Corey
Speaker 2: and Tapanga hope for. But now, in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: let's play the clip eight thousand dollars house. It's very simple.
Speaker 2: Over thirty years, just to trifle down payment and a
Speaker 2: pittance of a mortgage and two living parents with a
Speaker 2: pan foo can sell.
Speaker 7: So that clip was from Boy Meets World, and that
Speaker 7: episode aired in nineteen ninety nine, and I couldn't help myself,
Speaker 7: so I had to run the numbers. The show took
Speaker 7: place in Philly, and I saw that the median house
Speaker 7: price was around eighty thousand dollars in nineteen ninety nine. Now,
Speaker 7: core Intopanga were high school students without a job, so
Speaker 7: they couldn't qualify. But what about the median household income?
Speaker 7: Back then, it's forty thousand dollars, which is about thirty
Speaker 7: three hundred dollars a month, and a three percent down
Speaker 7: payment on the median house was only twenty four hundred dollars,
Speaker 7: So somebody in Philly in nineteen ninety nine didn't even
Speaker 7: have to save one month's income to put a down
Speaker 7: payment on this house. And the interest rates were around
Speaker 7: seven percent, just like they are today. So with principal interest,
Speaker 7: property tax insurance, and private mortgage insurance, the total payment
Speaker 7: was seven hundred and fifty dollars a month to get
Speaker 7: the median house in Philly, and you're making thirty three hundred,
Speaker 7: so that's about what twenty five percent, So a family
Speaker 7: making forty grand could take care of their entire mortgage
Speaker 7: and just one week. And then I wanted to see, well,
Speaker 7: let's just see what happened to the prices in Philadelphics.
Speaker 7: We know the averages around the country, but let's look
Speaker 7: at Philly. Eighty thousand was the median price in nineteen
Speaker 7: ninety nine. It's now two hundred and fifty thousand, so
Speaker 7: below the average for the nation. But the income was
Speaker 7: forty thousand for the median household. Now it's sixty thousand.
Speaker 7: So the housing price even in Philly went up over
Speaker 7: two hundred percent in the last twenty five years, but
Speaker 7: the income only went up fifty three percent. So even
Speaker 7: in smaller cities, metro cities, no matter where we look,
Speaker 7: I don't think I have found a city in America
Speaker 7: where the housing and income was even close to keeping up.
Speaker 2: That's isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1: Crazy? Yeah? When you busts down the numbers that you're
Speaker 1: looking at it like you can't do that anymore? Wow? Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the thing, it's weird because the kind of the
Speaker 1: story that Alan and Amy are talking about and want
Speaker 1: Corey in too. Panget To experience so.
Speaker 4: Much harder is impossible.
Speaker 1: It's almost unattainable. I mean literally almost done it. Well,
Speaker 1: we've got nothing. We've got to scrape together something to
Speaker 1: get a down payment. You can't really do that anymore. Wow.
Speaker 2: Nope, we could not shut up this episode. I don't
Speaker 2: know what got into us, but I hope you like it.
Speaker 2: You can listen to part two of this episode later today.
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