1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 3 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 5 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, Ambar Garcia, and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: It is one of November eighteenth, two twenty, season sixteen, 8 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: episode number sixty six. Welcome to the latest edition of 9 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: The Break. We're live from the s WBC Mortgage studios 10 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: at the Star. Dave Hellman's here in studio with me. 11 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a lot of fun goodness. We Scott, 12 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: Amber and Nick at their own respective places, but we'll 13 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: let them join in. We will have our finger on 14 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: the button of Nick's microphone if it gets to how 15 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: it got yesterday. We will mute him at some point 16 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: if he starts causing problems like he did yesterday. But 17 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: we're actually gonna pick that conversation up here in the 18 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: first segment, a little later in the first segment, because 19 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: I do think it's only fair to give Amber and 20 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: Dave an opportunity to chime into that conversation For those 21 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: of you who weren't listening yesterday, We'll wait and tee 22 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: that up when we get there. Let's start first though, 23 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: a couple of news items. Mike McCarthy and his press 24 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: conference today talked about Andy Dalton and Tyrone Crawford. Dave, 25 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: what is the status on those two guys at this point? 26 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: They're back. We kinda Andy, we kind of felt like 27 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: that was happening on Monday, but further confirmation he's off 28 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: the COVID list. He's kind of practice. Tyrone is off 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: the COVID list, I believe as well, kind of practice. 30 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: So they're good to go. Yeah, it's interesting to me 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: because we don't we don't talk a lot of we 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: haven't talked a lot this year about Tyrone Crawford. What 33 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: do you guys how he just sets his place so 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: far this year? I mean, obviously, nobody on the defense 35 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: has been great. Thank's been pretty good, but nobody's been great. 36 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: But there are a lot of guys that have been poor. 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: And it's hard to sometimes single out a lot of 38 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: guys because everybody's not doing so well. But how would 39 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: you assess Tyron Crawford's play this year? Right? That's like 40 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: you set me up for like a Nick Tech comment 41 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: right off the bat right there, and you're like, we 42 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: haven't talked a whole lot about Tyron Crawford. Is like, well, 43 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: the reason why why would we? Um, He's he's been Honestly, 44 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: I can't do sound like Nick Yeah, I mean, I 45 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't have Tyron Crawford has been outstanding. 46 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: Tyron Crawford is amazing. He's outstanding. There you go, there's 47 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: something behind that? What is no? What is behind that? 48 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: Because you're not just a TM video? Okay, got it? 49 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: Fear fear now. I I love him as a guy. Um, 50 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: but I mean, and I can't say that he's been awful, 51 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: but he certainly hasn't made like this crazy impact. And 52 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: especially you know that was kind of a selling point 53 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: throughout the offseason, was like, and he is. He has 54 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: been a better player than he's gotten credit for a 55 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: lot during his career. And the leadership aspect that you know, 56 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: we set all offseason that he brings the defense didn't 57 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: really look like it showed up in the first half 58 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: of the season, to be blunt about it, and for 59 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: that matter, didn't really see him being a difference maker 60 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: for a defensive line that really needed it. They've been 61 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: better the last two weeks. I'll be interested to see 62 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: how that progresses. But you know, a lot of a 63 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: lot of people wanted to come for Tyrone's money, and 64 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: I you know, they probably feel vindicated right now because 65 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: he hasn't been playing up to it. Definitely not Nick. 66 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: You expect him to be be here as part of 67 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: this team next year. M I don't know about that. 68 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: I got to look closer to this contract, but I 69 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: believe this is the year where they could probably Yeah, 70 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: I actually, you know, he's a last year. This is 71 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: the last year. You know, you we've we've been burned 72 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: before about that, thinking no way, no way, he's coming back. 73 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: But you know, it just depends on what his market 74 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: value is and and you know, guys that have position 75 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: flex that can play a lot of things. I think 76 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: the position flex has hurt him over his career. I 77 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: just don't think it's it's he's been able to just 78 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: lock in on one spot and so but I you know, 79 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: coaches like to have it. It's unfortunate this last game, 80 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: um Jalen Smith doesn't get that penalty on the legal 81 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: contact or whatever. I mean, he had the sack forced 82 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: fumble that returned, you know, returned by Aldon Smith that 83 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: would have been a difference making play in and maybe 84 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: an upset over Pittsburgh. And maybe we're talking about Crawford differently. 85 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: All it takes is one or two plays for us 86 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: to completely change our scripts sometimes on guys. So you know, 87 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate, But I don't know about him coming back 88 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: next year. It's it's just gonna see what what the 89 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: market is for him. What do you think, Amber, I 90 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: think the injuries, I mean that has hurt him. And yes, 91 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: you always love a guy that has that kind of 92 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: flexibility that you can kind of move around depending on 93 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: your needs. But at the same time, and you talk 94 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: about his performance this year, yes, at times you're like, oh, yeah, 95 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford, what is that guy up to and you 96 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: wonder what he has done. But at the same time, 97 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: sometimes that isn't necessarily a bad thing. You know, It's 98 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: not like we're over here talking about Tyrone Crawford being 99 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: horrible and letting plays happen and allowing sacks to happen, 100 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: or not creating enough pressures on quarterbacks and allowing guys 101 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: to get through him. So it's kind of it makes 102 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: both And when you look at the the amount of 103 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: plays that the defense hasn't been able to create, I 104 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: think that he would be one guy that hasn't necessarily 105 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: been my highest worry at least this year. I just 106 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: I was just thinking, and I don't want to put 107 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: words in his mouth. Obviously, only he knows what the 108 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: future holds for him. But like I wonder if Tyrone 109 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: Crawford will play football next year. I just, you know what, 110 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: he was drafted in twenty twelve, so he's I mean, 111 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: he's been in the league for a decade. He's not 112 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: bested veteran, he is not a spring chicken. He's coming 113 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: off double hip surgery. I bet you know, if I 114 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: had to guess, he would probably tell you, you know, 115 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: not that he wants to make excuses, but he probably 116 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: ain't feeling great. He kind of he alluded to that 117 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: last time he talked to the media. Just, you know, 118 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in year ten of the NFL. 119 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I had double hip surgery. Like this. 120 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: It's ain't always fun, you know, And I've always gotten 121 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: the impression that, you know, he's a guy that's gonna 122 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: be in DFW when he's done playing, Like he's he's 123 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: got a family, he's you know, he's settled down, he's 124 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: putting roots down here. And so you know, if it, 125 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: you know, if he gets through this season and he 126 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: doesn't have a robust market somewhere, you know, like, is 127 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: he gonna uproot his life to name a city Tampa 128 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: for one year or one year deal? I don't know. 129 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me if if the Cowboys, if they 130 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: can't come to some agreements on a deal, maybe he's 131 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I've had a pretty good career and 132 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: that's good enough. Typic. Just the thought though, like I mean, 133 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: like I said, I don't want to. I can't. Only 134 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 1: he knows the answer to that, But it's just something 135 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: that I've had in my brain. Typically, if you see 136 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: players doing that, sometimes they're chasing a ring, but outside 137 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: of that, you're right, you get to a certain point 138 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: where it's not fun anymore, Like the pain is not 139 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: worth what you're what you're actually going and doing on Sunday. 140 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: And so there are guys that make that decision. A 141 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: lot of guys make that decision at some point. All right, Um, 142 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: Nick tell us a little bit about this bubble. We 143 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: heard Jerry talk about it yesterday where Mike McCarthy talk 144 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: about it today. You are one of the few people 145 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: in our part of the world that are tiered, and 146 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: obviously you're not in the bubble, but I'm talking about 147 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: what's happening with this this bubble. Well, they're just trying 148 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: to be as safe as possible here. They're the Tier 149 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: two employees, the staff members that are really in close 150 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: contact with the players all the time, UH that they're 151 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: opening up the Omni UH for for them to be 152 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: a part of it as well, to be in the 153 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: bubble so that they're not going home. And you know, 154 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: I think and you know, being around I guess you 155 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: know kids, family that that that could have the virus, 156 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: and so you know, you just want to, you know, 157 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: try to make things as safe as possible for these guys. Um. 158 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: There are there are some members that that we know, 159 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: some some Tier two staffers that have been moved over 160 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: there to UH to the Omni and so you know, 161 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: you're right, I'm not in that group, and I'm fortunate 162 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: for that, but but you know, I just think that 163 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are trying to take every step possible to 164 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: be as safe as possible here for this final seven 165 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: games of the season. Yeah, it's not more. That's a 166 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: really really, really big uh um challenge. I think for 167 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people, if you're in that that mix, 168 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: having to be away from your family for presumably seven weeks, 169 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: it feels it kind of feels like we're getting close 170 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: to the finish line because like Thanksgivings right around the corner, 171 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: but we're not. No. I mean, three of these games 172 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: are going to happen really quickly, three games in eleven days, 173 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: but even I mean there's two months left in the season. 174 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: That is a long time as a live in a hotel. 175 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: I mean, we all know because we go out to 176 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: California for training camp, where we're gone for you know 177 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: that three and a half to four and a half weeks, 178 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: and that seems like a ton of time. And you're 179 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: out in California. Imagine being this close in Dallas, but 180 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: you can't get there, right. That's a that's a challenge. 181 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: It's an investment I think that they're making here to 182 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: to try to get through this season and hopefully it 183 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: all works out to where they can't get through the season. 184 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: Without any major hiccups. All right, let's let's go ahead 185 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: and move on to I want to hit this this 186 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: topic that yesterday came up right as we were ending 187 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: the show. Nick was making a point, and I don't 188 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: want to put words in your mountain, Nick, So I'm 189 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: gonna turn over to you and let you remake that 190 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: point because I know that during the show I could see. 191 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: I went back and watched it. Dave, the look on 192 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: your face was kind of priceless because I could tell 193 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: you had something burning that you really wanted to say. 194 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: But this show is pretty much over. Not only that, 195 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: but I just, I honestly was just laughing imagining. I 196 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: was like, Twitter is gonna have a field day with 197 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: this an idea. They had fun with it last night. 198 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: But Nick, make the point again and then let's let's 199 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: have a little discussion on it. Yeah, And I just 200 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: shouldn't have done that at the very end of the 201 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: show and not giving anybody a chance to address it. 202 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: But you know, really, what I'm saying is is that 203 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: you know, hear a lot of talk about the Cowboys 204 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: should tank or whatever. All I was saying is is 205 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: that the true die hard fans diehard fans that just 206 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: that every single game that they're so invested with the team. 207 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: I don't think a true die hard fan wants the 208 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: team to lose. They can see the big picture. They 209 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: can see a silver lining at the end of the 210 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: game or whatever, like, well, you know, at least we 211 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: maybe we're gonna get a better draft pick. But as 212 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: the game's going on, if you've been doing this for 213 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: thirty eight, fifty one years, sixty years, whatever, there's no 214 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: way that you want your team to lose the game. 215 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: If you've been invested for so long, you can see 216 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: at the end. Okay, I guess I'm not gonna be 217 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: that mad about it. That's fine, not gonna throw my 218 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: remote control today or punch a wall today. But you know, 219 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: I want us to win. And that's what I think. 220 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: I think true diehards never really want their team to 221 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: lose in the moment. They might see the big picture 222 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: at the end of it, though, Dave, I mean it 223 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: makes me smile too, because I kind of I can see, 224 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: I can see the whole spectrum. My big thing is 225 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: really like I don't I don't like to tell anybody 226 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: how to be a fan, because my whole thing is 227 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: like there's no there's no like entry requirement to this, 228 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: Like you know, I mean Cowboy fans from all over 229 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: the world. There's people that are going to listen to 230 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: this who live in Europe. There's like here in DFW, 231 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: somebody in Newport News is listening to this, and like, 232 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: all you have to do is just decide you like 233 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: the team, and it's land. Really like my only requirement 234 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: after that is that you just stick with it. That's 235 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: really don't jump around, don't up, don't jump around, but 236 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: like you can all walks of life. It doesn't matter 237 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: how you got here, it doesn't matter if it was 238 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: five years ago, it doesn't matter if it was like 239 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: in the womb. Just as long as you stick with 240 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: That's really my only requirements. I mean, like that's any 241 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: any fanhood really and I legitimate. I mean I think 242 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: there are die no I know there are because I 243 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: know them personally. There are die hard, die hard Cowboy fans. 244 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: And to Nix's point, maybe you are not just sitting 245 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: there on Sunday actively rooting for them to lose, but 246 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: you're you know, you turn on their moment. You're like 247 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: all right, boys, like let's let's put forth a better effort, 248 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: but like, don't play too well, don't play too well, 249 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: And I I think there are legitimately die hard Cowboy 250 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: fans who believe that. And you know, maybe it feels 251 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: weird to say you're rooting for them to lose, but 252 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: you know that same person will tell you that a 253 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: win and a loss is the difference between getting the 254 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: stud I mean, let's you know, we don't have to 255 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: use real players, but the stud edge rusher. You know, 256 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: it could be the difference between Chase Young at number 257 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: two for Washington last year or if you win that 258 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: one extra game. Now you're trying to tuck yourself into 259 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: a cornerback that you don't really love because that's what's 260 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: available for you. You know, the Cowboys they got lucky 261 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: that they loved Cede, like they got lucky that Ceedee 262 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: Lamb was there. Otherwise, Now you're talking about, like do 263 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: we take treyvon digs here like Calavan Chase on the 264 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: pass rest of at LSU, Like do we really love him? 265 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: I guess we do. Like that's the that's the position 266 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: that you're in when you win too many games. So 267 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: I see both sides of it. And if you don't 268 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: want the Cowboys to win another game. I don't think 269 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: that means you're less of a fan because you're listening 270 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: to this show, or you know, God knows how much 271 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: money you've spent on hoodies and T shirts and coming 272 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: down here trying to or you know there's people that 273 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: live all over the country that you know. I go 274 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: to one road game a year wherever the closest one is, 275 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: like all that stuff, and they're doing all that and 276 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: if if, if you don't want them to win another game, 277 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't make you less of a fan. If you're 278 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: doing all the rest of that stuff, you're watching, you 279 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: are watching the game in a lost season and you 280 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: want them to lose it, but you're watching like you 281 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: are putting in that effort. Like I said, you're not like, 282 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: if you're not paying attention because the team is bad, 283 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: then you're not you're a bad fan. You're a bad 284 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: fan if you're not paying attention because the team is bad. 285 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: But if you're invested, even if you want them to lose, 286 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: I still think you're you're a pretty good fan. Amber 287 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: you have some thoughts on this, not really because I'm 288 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: not a die hard fan of anything. I mean, any 289 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: team whatsoever. So I don't really all I can say. 290 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: All I can say is I am very much invested 291 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys because of the job obviously, and we 292 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: get to watch it and we get to know a 293 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: lot of the players and all that. So game day 294 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: comes and I do care. And like I said yesterday, 295 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: it depends on what day of the week you're asking 296 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: me this question, because I can care less during the 297 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: week and be like, you know what, screwed whatever, they stuck, 298 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: let them lose. But then game they come, so I'm like, oh, 299 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: my freaking guy, like, what are you guys doing? They 300 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: upset me so much. So I do want them to win. 301 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: But for example, taking last season. Last season, I was 302 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: to the point where I towards the end of the year, 303 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: I didn't want them to win because in me, I 304 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: knew they didn't have it in them to make it 305 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: through the playoffs. Like if they did make the playoffs, 306 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: I knew they couldn't get much further than that. So 307 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, what's the point of keep this going? 308 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: Of keeping this going? So's it sucks. It sucks being 309 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: a fan of anything because you there are so many 310 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: emotions involved in it and at one moment, you may 311 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: be thinking one thing and looking into the draft, but 312 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: then at another moment, you care, you really care about 313 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: the game, and you do want your team to be 314 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: able to be competitive and to be able to have 315 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: some kind of success. Yeah, I think she nailed it 316 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: when she said it sucks being a fan, because it 317 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: really it really does it. And Nick, you told me 318 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: this when we're talking about this earlier, like being a fan, 319 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: especially being a die hard fan, it's probably not healthy 320 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: all the time. I mean, you're gonna you're gonna probably 321 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: destroy some things, including some relationships. Like, it's probably not 322 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: gonna be good for you all the time. And I 323 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: know for Nick and Dave and myself to some degree, 324 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: like we're all really really big fans of our college team, 325 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: and it's some Saturdays just aren't good. Like you, it 326 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: ruins your entire week what happens on Saturday. And I'm 327 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: sure there's some fans out there right now that are 328 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: thinking the same way about the Scoutboys team on Sundays. 329 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: But I guess the point of what I was trying 330 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: to make yesterday is for those folks, there's still some 331 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: of them that look at it like, hey, I'm going 332 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: through a tough season anyway, I'm gonna have to feel 333 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: all of this anyway. If I come out of it 334 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: with a top three pick, that actually makes me feel 335 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: a little bit better about it. And so you can 336 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: be a die hard fan and still be like, this 337 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: season is a lost cause, so let's get all the 338 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: week can get out of this lost cause. I meant 339 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: to add that too, is I think this whole tanking thing, 340 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: it's also it's a coping mechant, right, It's a way 341 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: to make yourself feel better about the overwhelming likelihood that 342 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: you're not gonna see that many more wins, and you say, well, 343 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: this sucks, but this is sort of my security blanket 344 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: that's gonna make me sleep better at night. Yeah, it's 345 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: your silver lining, right. My favorite thing about this show, 346 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: you know, Nick Nick is a I mean Nick is 347 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: like one of the most die hard sports fans I've 348 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: ever met. The fact that anybody could be a lifelong 349 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: Arkansas fanatic speaks to that. I don't mean that as 350 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: a shot. I mean, but it's no, he sticks with 351 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: this team and he lives it's truth. But no, sorry, no, 352 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead, No, I mean you're right. I mean, 353 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of wins. I mean I 354 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: had a I mean I was holding onto the nineteen 355 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: ninety four Basketball Championship forever. I mean, like that's just 356 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of a lot of big victories. 357 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: But you know, when you're an Arkansas fan, it's a 358 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: it's like a cult. And you know I've said this 359 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: a thousand times. I'll say it again. When you're a big, 360 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: a diehard fan of somebody, you don't choose to be 361 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: a fan. I mean, it chooses you. Somebody chose you 362 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: to be a Dallas Cowboy fan or LSU fan or whatever. 363 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean, unless you just choose to go to the school. 364 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: For the most part, your fandom chooses you, and so 365 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: you have to accept it. And I'll just say this. 366 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: You guys are making all these points and I agree 367 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: with it. All I'm saying is is the point I'm 368 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: making is in the game. And Dave, I challenge you. 369 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that your fans that you're talking about 370 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: are grabbing a terrible towel as Gilbert is driving down 371 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: the field and be like, God, I hope he doesn't score. No. 372 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: Because you're a Cowboy fan, you want to win, You'll 373 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: deal with the You'll deal with the other part later. 374 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: Let's win the game. Let's knock off the undefeated Steelers. 375 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't think the diehards in the 376 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: game really want their team to lose. They just learn 377 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: how to accept the silver lining of it if they 378 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: do lose. I think there's some I think there's some 379 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: truth to that, Like in the you know, if in 380 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: the moment, if if I can't even think of Greg's airline, 381 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: I was about to say, Dan Bailey, that's if Greg's 382 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: air line is lining up to kick a walk off 383 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: off and Dallas is down by one. I don't know 384 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: how many people have it within them to be like, 385 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: miss this kid, Yeah, yeah, yeah, what if So you're 386 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: saying you want they want Dan Bailey to actually make 387 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: the kids, Well, they want Dan Bailey to miss because 388 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: he plays for the Vikings. I guess No, I was 389 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: they want him to make it my favorite thing about 390 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: this show. So my point was going to be Nick's 391 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: been a fanatic forever. You know, he can tell you 392 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: about the seventies Cowboys in great detail. You're you know 393 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: you and me, well but no, but you're a Texas freak. 394 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: And I'm an LSU fanatic. I just love like so. 395 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: But we've had this problem since birth, as have most 396 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: people that are listening to this show. And Amber is 397 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: like on year five, like she's still sort of just 398 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: getting her feet wet in this whole terrible arrangement that 399 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: is being a fan. Oh it sucks, and we get 400 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: the word and we get to see her walk through 401 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: this cycle of it, like she's just a baby in 402 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: this thing. We're like, just have no idea what me 403 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: for the next twenty years. It's I mean, it's brutal, man, 404 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: but you know what, at somebody whose team reached the 405 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: mountaintop last year, it is worth it. Oh and when 406 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys finally pull it off, whether it's next year 407 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: or thirty years from now, it's so worthy. It will 408 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: be so worth It is so worth it. You're right. 409 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: When Texas won that championship, my wife, my wife jumped 410 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: up and ran around the block. It's late at night, 411 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: and she ran around the block just screaming because of 412 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: the excitement we had about Texas winning national champion. It 413 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: is everything when you finally reached the top. So yeah, 414 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: it's it's all worth it. At some point hopefully soon, 415 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: hopefully hopefully well see hopefully while we're alive. Amber, You're right, Yes, 416 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: we are going to take our first break when we 417 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: come back. We got Bucky Brooks lined up from NFL Network. 418 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: He's gonna talk to us about this Vikings team, particularly 419 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: the Vikings offense. 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Segment on fandom as a developed North 465 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: Carolina Tario fan. I am. I am in the boat 466 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: with you, and so I am always about winning and 467 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: I'm never satisfied despite the championships or whatever. So I 468 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: understand it. Hey, well, right now, y'all got our old 469 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: coach and he's doing things up there. He's gonna get 470 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: that program turn around as he did it before he 471 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: got to us. Mac Brown doing some big, big things 472 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: up there in North Carolina right now. Yeah, absolutely, he's 473 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: a great coach. Yeah all right, So let's jump in. 474 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about this Minnesota offense. I 475 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: know usually I'll start the conversation by asking you what 476 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: they do well. I think we all know what they 477 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: do well. Minnesota right now is second in rushing yards 478 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: per temp at five point two yards per temp. Chicago 479 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: helth cook to only three point two yard average. What 480 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: did they do along with Indianapolis in Week two? What 481 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: did they do that other teams have not been able 482 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: to do when it comes to stopping the run of Minnesota? 483 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: Where those teams are really good against a run. Those 484 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: teams are really sound defenses. They do a pretty good 485 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: job of winning the line of scrimmage. For the Cowboys, 486 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: this would be the biggest test that they've had. This 487 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: would go back to what the Cleveland Browns did because 488 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: they're similar systems and so this will be a test 489 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: of the physicality, the effort to discipline, all those things 490 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: that have kind of been murmured about throughout the course 491 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: of the season. Where this is the exam to see 492 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: how far they've made, how much progress they made. The 493 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: problem that you have when you're defending the Minnesota Vikings 494 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: is you have a system that is very sound. It 495 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: is a system where the offensive line they move like 496 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: elephants on parade. So they're all in unison. They're working 497 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: together and they are trying to get a push horizontally. 498 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: And then you have a running back in Davin Cook, 499 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: who is one of the best in the business at 500 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: being able to be a one cut runner. When he 501 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: sees the crease, he attacks it and he has juice 502 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: and vision and balance and body control and he's just 503 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: a special player. And so it's the perfect marriage between 504 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: player and system. And if you're not on your p's 505 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: and ques that game, he will run for two hundred 506 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: yards because they will give it to him, they will 507 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: feed him. He is. They are doing everything that Cowboys 508 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: fans talk about doing. Give it to him twenty times. Well, 509 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: if you don't stop him, he's gonna get it twenty 510 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: five times. Bucky. We lost Trevor Dicks. We all know that, 511 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: and we know that Cheeto is coming back, but we 512 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: still don't know what he's going to look like on 513 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: the field. I'm curious about your assessment between the secondary 514 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: and their passing game and what they can do over 515 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: there with their receivers. Well, the secondary is played better 516 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: of late and the reason they played better is because 517 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: they've made the number one priority is not allow the 518 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: ball to fly over their head, keep the ball in front, 519 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: limit the big plays, rally and ackle and live to 520 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: fight another down. And as simple as that sounds, it 521 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,479 Speaker 1: is the most effective way to keep people from scoring 522 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: points because as the field gets condensed and tighter, now 523 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: you are able to use the siline and the end 524 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: zone as extra defenders and it works in your advantage. 525 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: The problem when you face the Minnesota Vikings is this, 526 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: everyone knows that Dalvin Cook is the guy, and you 527 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: have to put eight in the box, maybe nine in 528 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: the box to slow him down. Well, they want to 529 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: throw play action passes, they want to go max protect, 530 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: and they're going to let their two wide receivers, Adam 531 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: Feeling and Justin Jefferson go to work. And what the 532 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings have done is they've invested in wide receivers 533 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: who are craftsmen, who are outstanding route runners, and if 534 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: you give them time, they will put cornerbacks in the blender. 535 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: And that is what we're seeing. Adam Feeling is tied 536 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: for first with nine touchdowns. Justin Jefferson leaves all rookies 537 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: and receiving yards. He has four one hundred yard days 538 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: and if you are unable to cover them one on 539 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: one from a skill standpoint, they will go bonkers. And 540 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: so the dilemma is how much do I sell out 541 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: to stop Delvin Cook? And can I sell out while 542 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: being good enough to deal with these two artists that 543 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: are on the perimeter creating separation and getting wide open. 544 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: It's a challenge and it's a conundrum that Mike Nolan 545 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: has to come in with a plan on how do 546 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: I want to defend these two different options that they 547 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: can go with a bucky three days ago, Kirk Cousins 548 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: did not have a winning record in the NFL as 549 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: a starter, but he did win Monday Night. So now 550 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: he's forty eight forty seven and two. He's two and 551 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: six against the Cowboys, so he's never really been that 552 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: great against Dallas. Is he a good quarterback in your mind? 553 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: Is he average quarterback? I know he you know he 554 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: gets paid well, but how do you assess him? Yeah? 555 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: I think with kirk Cousins, I think the biggest thing 556 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: that clouds him is the compensation doesn't match the production 557 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: in the performance. He got paid what he got paid 558 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: because he was able to parlay the franchise tag and 559 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: to a halfty pay that. But if you ask me 560 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: what kirk Cousins is, quarterbacks come into categories. They're either 561 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: trucks or their trailers. Their trucks would they carry the 562 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: team or their trailers where the team carries him. He's 563 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: a trailer. The team in the system carries him and 564 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: he has success. He doesn't have the ability on his 565 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: own to put it on his shoulders and make it happen. 566 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: We've seen him falter time after time after time in 567 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: Washington and in Minnesota. When he's had to do it 568 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: by himself. He can't get it done. That's it. This system, 569 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: in an environment that they've created right now is perfect 570 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: for him to have success. The last few games, he's 571 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: completed over seventy percent of his passes, six touchdowns, one inception. 572 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: Passer rating is at one twenty three. So if they're 573 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: able to dictate the turns by establishing the running game 574 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,239 Speaker 1: and throw play action passes, kirk Cousins can look like 575 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: a star. But if they're able to control the running 576 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: game and you make him have to throw a drop, 577 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: bad game. Kirk Cousins has shown time and time again, 578 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: he can't do it, Bucky. I hope I'm not putting 579 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: you on the spot too much by asking you to 580 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: go back a month. But a lot of people are 581 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: connecting dots in this game to the Browns game because 582 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski came from Minnesota runs a similar scheme, and 583 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: it's hard not to remember that the Browns ran for 584 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: three hundred and seven yards against this defense. So I mean, 585 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: if we are I mean we know what the vikings do, 586 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: we know what Dalvin Cook is capable of what. And 587 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: if you remember, the Browns game was the game where 588 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: you know everybody was dogging the effort level, So I 589 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: get that, but is there something else that showed up 590 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: in that game that led to them being so horrendous 591 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: against the run? And if they're gonna fix one thing 592 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: to play better this week, what would it need to be? 593 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: Physicality and discipline. Part of the reason why the Cowboys 594 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: played the last time we played Will the last time 595 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: we saw him out because they were absolutely fearful of 596 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: being embarrassed by the physicality of the Pittsburgh Steelers, and 597 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: so we saw them play at a different level when 598 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: it came to the effort energy, The challenge will be 599 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: Everyone has seen the tape of the Cleveland Browns. The 600 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings have seen it. The Minnesota Vikings are going 601 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: to run those same schemes at them, and they're going 602 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: to test the Cowboys to see if they have made 603 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: the necessary corrections to slow them down. What has to happen, 604 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, Laden vander Eshe they have to be in 605 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: the gaps upfront, Neville Gallimore and Antoine Woods and Alden 606 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: Smith and the markets. They have to be able to 607 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: control the line of scrimmage and stay in their gaps. 608 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: If they freelance, if they lose any of their discipline, 609 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook is going to gut him and he's going 610 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: to run for a seventy yard touchdown. It is as 611 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: simple as that. This will be the longest and toughest 612 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: test of discipline that we will see from the Cowboys 613 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: in this game, over a sixty minute game. Can they 614 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,719 Speaker 1: do what they're asked to do over and over and 615 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: over again without freelancing? And they've done it of late, 616 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: but they haven't been tested by a team that is 617 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: going to run it and run the same place over 618 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: and over again. Are they up to the challenge? That's 619 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: really what we see. Because if they're able to do 620 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: it this week, I'm very optimistic that they'll be fine 621 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: the rest of the season against these run heavy teams. 622 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: But if they can't do it against Minnesota, they're gonna 623 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: have a tough time doing it against Baltimore, San Francisco, 624 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: Philadelphia and some of these other run heavy teams that 625 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: are on the schedule. Yeah, you mentioned that being the 626 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: longest and toughest tests that they're gonna have. As you 627 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: saw it last night and that or that night before last, 628 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: in that game, they were getting nothing, nothing out of 629 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: the running game, but they kept with it. I don't 630 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: know if I've seen a team be that discipline where 631 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: they were like, we're going to run the ball. You 632 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: may stop us, but we're gonna keep running the ball. 633 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: And as you notice there at the end of the game, 634 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: when a team Hicks goes out of the game, they 635 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: started getting a few more creases there and opportunities to 636 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: be able to get some yards out of it. But 637 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see how the Cowboys can 638 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: do over a full sixty minute game. But I want 639 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: to take you back earlier. You mentioned you were talking 640 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: to I think it was a question that Amber asked 641 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: and talking about the receivers matching up with the Cowboys secondary. 642 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: My question for you, it's a two part question. One, 643 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: do you think Keeto a Woozier and Anthony Brown can 644 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: cover these receivers one on one if the Cowboys out 645 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: to bring that safety down into the box. But in 646 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: addition to that, if you were Mike Nolan, what would 647 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: be your strategy. Would you bring that extra guy down 648 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: in the box and risk on the outside letting those 649 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: guys get free, or would you say, hey, we gotta 650 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: stay true to what we do, which is you know, 651 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: rally and tackle, and that may mean that we can't 652 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: bring that extra guy down. We absolutely have to make 653 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: stopping to run the priority. It has to be number one. 654 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook is the guy. It has to be all 655 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: hands on deck to slow down Dalvin Cook. Because the 656 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: one thing that we know if they run the ball, 657 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: they were running for three hundred yards and they will 658 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: absolutely dominate the game. You have to take your chances in. 659 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: You almost have to go to Anthony Brown and Wuzia 660 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: and say, hey, you gotta put your big board pads 661 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: on this week. We cannot help you. We can't put 662 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: people over the top. You have to hold up in 663 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: your matchup and you just have to see if they 664 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,239 Speaker 1: can do it. Now, there will be some down, some 665 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: advantageous downs where if you get third and long year, 666 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: but to dictate terms, where maybe you can double up 667 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: a roll coverage. But for the most part, those guys 668 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: in a quarter system, you're going to have to hold 669 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: up and win your individual battle against Justin Jefferson and 670 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: Adam Feeland. That is the only way that they're going 671 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: to be able to defend the running game. And so 672 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: it's a challenge. But I think of the lesser evils, 673 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,719 Speaker 1: the passing game is the lesser evil because the one 674 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: thing about that I can talk about Justin Jefferson and 675 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: Adam Feeling getting open, but it is Kirk Cousin going 676 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: to be on his game, and so you just don't 677 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: know if he's gonna be on his game. So I'm 678 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: gonna roll the dice and say, Kirk Cousins, if you 679 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: have a three hundred yard day, we'll tip our head 680 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: and we'll go on. But we cannot allow Dalvin Cook 681 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: to have one hundred and fifty yards on the ground 682 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: because that is an absolute recipe for disaster Bucky. My 683 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: next question isn't about the Vikings, but about the Cowboys 684 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: and this bye week. I know that the bite week 685 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: was very necessary because of injuries and all that, But 686 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: from your own experience, I mean, do you when you 687 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: talk about momentum and seeing the fact that the Cowboys 688 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: against the Steelers were able to start creating some good 689 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: things that we haven't seen all throughout the season, do 690 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: you do you feel that maybe having a week off 691 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: effects that kind of momentum or do you just don't 692 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: think that has anything to do with what they can 693 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: do this upcoming week? Well, I mean, I think you 694 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: go into the bye week feeling positive and optimistic. You 695 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: lost to the Pittsburgh Steelers, but defensively if you started 696 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: to stack together two positive games so now, but the 697 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: bye week has afforded you as an opportunity to clean 698 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: up all the other stuff and to continue to get better. Now, 699 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: the lockdown in the COVID situation prevented them from fully 700 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: getting on the field and doing what they want to 701 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: do in terms of continuing to progress, But I think 702 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: you continue to rep what you repped, you continue to 703 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: build upon what you've displayed the last couple of weeks, 704 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: you try and make sure that Randy Gregory and Neville 705 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: Gallimore and some of the other young players that are 706 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: planing have a complete and clear understanding of what they're 707 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 1: being asked to do. And you just continue to hone 708 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: into the scheme and make sure everyone understands exactly what's expected. 709 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: And then I think for Mike Nolan and also for 710 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy and Kellen Moore, it's the self scout because 711 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: as much as we talk about the defense, we got 712 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 1: to talk about complimentary football and make sure that everyone 713 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 1: is on the same page. So the bye week should 714 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: be an opportunity for everyone to have a clear picture 715 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: of this is who we are, this is how we 716 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: have to play going forward. Now, let's make sure we 717 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: put our players in the best position to make plays 718 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: playing the style that we have to play. Bucky in 719 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: your five Bucks column today, he said that Andy Dalton 720 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a superhero, but the guys around 721 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: him certainly certainly do. And you mentioned a lot of 722 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: guys on defense there. Can you talk about how what 723 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: you've seen out of DeMarcus Lawrence here lately. I mean, 724 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: I know you mentioned him a minute ago, but it 725 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: seems like he is a different player than what we 726 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: saw earlier in the season. Yeah. Now, without being privy 727 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: too like the injuries and stuff like that, he certainly 728 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: looks like the Marcus Lawrence of old. And in the column, 729 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 1: what I said is stars have to be stars because 730 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: right now, as we were saying as players, this is 731 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: the dash for the cash. They have seen that. The 732 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys look up and they're one game away from being 733 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: right back in the mix in the division. They saw 734 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: Philadelphia lose, they're sitting there and so and so the 735 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: way that it has to happen is your stars have 736 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: to take their game up a notch. You cannot depend 737 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: on the role players to elevate this team in the 738 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: playoff contention. So on defense, that's to Marcus Lawrence, that's 739 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: Alden Smith, that's Jayless Smith, that's Lvee. Those guys have 740 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: to play like the blue chip players that we thought 741 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 1: they were coming into the year. And so, if you're 742 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: Mike Nolan, if you're Mike mccarthur, you have to have 743 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: very open and honest and frank discussions about a The 744 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: time is now we got to pick up our play 745 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: and we will be led by the stars. The stars 746 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: will ultimately determine whether the Cowboys go to the playoffs 747 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: or not. I don't want to act like Justin Jefferson 748 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: in some crazy sleeper rookie because he was the twenty 749 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 1: second overall pick in the draft. It's obviously a good player, 750 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: but he was the fifth receive her taken. I guess 751 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: I'm mainly asking this to take a shot at Philadelphia 752 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: basically because they drafted Jalen Rager over him. Is it 753 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: too soon to say that you know that this was 754 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: a drastic draft mistake by several teams, that this guy 755 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: I mean to be the fifth receiver taken even in 756 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 1: such a top heavy class. Or is Justin Jefferson's success 757 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 1: more about the talent around him than him being as 758 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: transcendent as he has looked. I guess, well, I tell 759 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: you this because of your LSU touch. Obviously I might 760 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: be a phone calls, No I got. I got texting 761 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: phone calls from Jerry Sullivan, who had spent time at 762 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,479 Speaker 1: LSU two seasons ago working with Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase. 763 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 1: And he texts me because he saw me put Justin 764 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: Jefferson not at the top of the board, and he said, 765 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, this guy will be the 766 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: best player in the class. He is outstanding, he's a dog. 767 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 1: He's a better player than Jamar Chase will be when 768 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 1: he enters the league. And he said that he has everything. 769 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: And so I kind of text back and was like, 770 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: I hear you, Like he's nice. I like the route running, 771 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: but I don't know, like these other guys are really good. 772 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: And then Lauren behold you look at the tape and 773 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 1: you're like, darn it, Like I underestimated how good he is. 774 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: And I think the common theme when it comes to 775 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: these receivers that have immediate success in the league, all 776 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: of the guys are artists when it comes to route running. 777 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: So much of what we get caught up in the 778 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: free draft run is hey, how fast are they can 779 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: they do these things? And really it's the skill. And 780 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: when I look at Justin Jefferson, Justin Jefferson is an artist. 781 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 1: He's Picasso. He is painting masterpieces out there, creating separation 782 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: and getting open. And because of that, he can get 783 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: open against guys who are high end corners. And so 784 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: his success is not a product of the system. It's 785 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: a product of him being a very talented and skilled 786 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: route runner, and the Minnesota Vikings put him in a 787 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: position where he's able to use his tools. All right, 788 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: Bucky Man, we appreciate you joining us. I know we 789 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: ran a little bit long today. We'll appreciate you giving 790 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: us some good insight into this Minnesota Vikings offense. Tomorrow 791 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: we'll have you back. We'll talk about the Vikings defense. 792 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: We're gonna go and take our final break and we 793 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: come back. We'll have a couple of questions before we 794 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,919 Speaker 1: wrap up the show. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 795 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: We're back in a tasty treat that's sweeping airwaves and 796 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: taste buds. It's new Doctor Pepper and Cream Soda. Let's 797 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: take a listen Doctor Pepper and Cream Soda. Is he 798 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: a new Combonelet's music to my ears? 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It honestly feels way 835 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,439 Speaker 1: nicer to be able to like interact with somebody, see 836 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: each other and have a conversation then freezing, see if 837 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: somebody's about to talk. Yeah, and when you freeze, like 838 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: we just get these weird looks on your face and 839 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: it's just stuck there and I have to look out 840 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: my face anyway. For the most part, Oh, I wish 841 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 1: people could go back and watch the show from yesterday 842 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 1: and just see the faces Dave was making as Nick 843 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: was talking towards the end of the show. Is pretty funny. 844 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: I liked I try to communicate with the audience wordlessly 845 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: sometimes like if something crazy happening, I just kind of 846 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: like Jim from the Office, I just like to stare 847 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: at my webcam like it's the reason why if you 848 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: don't watch this show, you probably should rather than just 849 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,879 Speaker 1: listen in. And before we end the show today, let's 850 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,959 Speaker 1: go and get one fan question, what do we have? Well, 851 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: I got a lot of people really interested in Bradley 852 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 1: and I and Reggie Robinson, so I got a lot 853 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: of questions of them, wanting to know if do you 854 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: guys expect to see more of them in this second 855 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: half of the season. HM. That has been That's been 856 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: a thing all season, and it's one of those it's 857 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,720 Speaker 1: a situation where you know, week one, Week two, week three, 858 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: people are like where a Reggie and a nine and 859 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: it's like, well, they're rookies and there's much better players 860 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: in front of them, Like chill out. But now you 861 00:42:55,320 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: know the record's bad. Season's not over, but it's slipping away. 862 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 1: And so now I'm with you where I'm like, Okay, 863 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: what do you have to lose by getting these guys 864 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: more snaps? Like Bradley and I hasn't had He's I 865 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,760 Speaker 1: don't he definitely hasn't had more than five defensive snaps 866 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 1: all year, and Reggie hasn't been active yet. And you know, 867 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll see that this week, but 868 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: if the playoffs get further and further out of reach, 869 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: then I would absolutely hope that those guys get thrown 870 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: into the action because at that point, what do you 871 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: have to lose? So, while the division is still technically 872 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,959 Speaker 1: up for grabs, I don't know, but hopefully, at least 873 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: in December, hopefully we'll see some more of them. Yeah, 874 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, the interesting thing is actually shaking his head 875 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 1: with a big no no. Well, they practice, I mean, 876 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: and so the Cowboys the see of them in practice, 877 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: they know Reggie Robinson what he can do and probably 878 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: what he can't do. And so, like I said yesterday, 879 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 1: if they're pulling out Stephen Parker and guys like that 880 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 1: to play, I think Reggie Robinson has been an option. 881 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: It just hasn't been a good one. But I agree 882 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: with what Dave said. I mean, Jerry said that on 883 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: the radio the other day. I want to play young guys. 884 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't say it like this, but I'm 885 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,359 Speaker 1: just gonna paraphrase. He said, you want to play young 886 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: guys if they don't suck, I mean, if they're gonna suck, 887 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: and that's the whole thing up, you don't want to 888 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: play him. I mean, it's pretty much what he said. 889 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 1: I mean, it was like it's very valuable for them 890 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: to play, but they better not bring the you know, 891 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: bring the whole thing down. So right now, while it's 892 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, they're fighting for it, I think I think 893 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,720 Speaker 1: it's you know, I don't see why Ridge Robinson couldn't 894 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: play some special teams. But I guess I don't really 895 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: know who you would take off the field right now, 896 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: So you know, I bet Pep'll see them at some point. Though. Yeah, 897 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: my thought was, and again I may have not really 898 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 1: understood the full scope of it, but when he came in, 899 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: when the Cowboys drafted him, my thought was, he's going 900 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: to be a guy that they're gonna have to to develop 901 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: a little bit and and so he wasn't gonna be 902 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 1: a guy that was gonna be immediately a guy they 903 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: would just throw out there. So this doesn't surprise me, 904 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 1: I will say. My counter to that is the other 905 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: thing was everybody raved about his special teams a bit 906 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 1: right now, Like he blocked three or four kicks in college. 907 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: He can do this, that and the other. So it's 908 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 1: definitely not surprised to me that he's not getting snaps 909 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: on the secondary. The fact that he hasn't been in 910 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: uniform yet this season as a fourth round pick, it's 911 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 1: a little surprising. And he had a rough training camp, 912 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 1: there's no way around that. But again I'm not asking 913 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: him to start at safety. I just at this point 914 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: I would have guessed that you'd see him on special 915 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: teams or at least getting a jersey. Yeah, And to 916 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 1: be honest with I don't think like like like Nick said, 917 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: I don't know that there are guys right now on 918 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: special teams. You're like, you gotta get that guy out 919 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 1: there and make room for Reggie Robinson, especially if he's 920 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 1: not giving you anything as as a cornerback. So again, 921 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: this doesn't shock me just yet. Now, if you get 922 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: into next season, he's still not active. Now, we got 923 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: some problems. But for me, a guy like that that 924 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: didn't have an off season, didn't have training camp, or 925 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 1: didn't have a normal training camp, I'm not as shocked 926 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: by that, and it seems like it's it's kind of 927 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: par for the course. It does. I know, we gotta go, 928 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 1: But it reminds me of Donovan Wilson a little bit, 929 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: and it's it's different because Reggie didn't have a preseason, 930 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: but Donovan Wilson looked amazing in the preseason, didn't really 931 00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,399 Speaker 1: get a ton of time. The fans were pissed off 932 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: about it, and we were saying the same thing, like, well, 933 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: the coaches seem more than we do and they don't 934 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: think he's ready. And to be fair, he had another 935 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 1: offseason to progress and do this, that and the other. 936 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: But he's looked pretty good once he's gotten the opportunity. 937 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: So maybe you should give guys a chance a little 938 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 1: bit more often. We'll see, we'll see. I'm sure I 939 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: would guess at down the stretch here he might get 940 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 1: some opportunities. But by no means am I writing him off. 941 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 1: I think right now it's just one of those things 942 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: where he's developing and they're developing, and we'll see what 943 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: he turns out to be next year and years after that. 944 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 1: All right, appreciate you, guys, Jonas. We'll be back tomorrow. 945 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna get into this Vikings defense against the Cowboys. 946 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: Often still then for Nick even Dave Helm and Amber Garcia. 947 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: I am Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live 948 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 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