1 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to bokay f Daily with 2 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks, 3 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: I come to you today with a supersized episode with 4 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: my friend and our friend, Glenn Kirshner, host of Justice 5 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: Matters and MSNBC Legal Analyst. We're recording this show on 6 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: the actual day, January six, twenty twenty three, the two 7 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: year anniversary of the insurrection, and Folks, I have to 8 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: tell you that when I woke up today, I had 9 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: a really the word is sad? Is grief struck? Just 10 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: demoralize feeling in my soul that as we are watching 11 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: the dysfunction continue need to play out on the House 12 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: floor at the hands of Republican insurrectionists and anti democratic figures. 13 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 1: All of this, all of this could have been stopped 14 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: if the Department of Justice, led by Merritt Garland had 15 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: done its fucking job over the last two years, had 16 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: held any of the architects of the insurrection accountable, had 17 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: pulled out the Republican members of Congress who provided recognisance 18 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: tours to the insurrectionists and actually pointed out the offices 19 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: of their colleague so that harm could come to them. 20 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: If this Department of Justice had done its job, we 21 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't be in this current shit show that we are witnessing, 22 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: which is in large amount, folks, the unraveling of our democracy. Sure, 23 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: folks want to pop popcorns and send memes because you know, 24 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: we need to assuage our anxiety and fear that. You 25 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: know what, the insurrection still continues two years later because 26 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: we have a dysfunctional, fucking Department of Justice that is 27 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: too chicken shit to do its job. And so today, 28 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: on this day that should be covered wall to wall, 29 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: should be on every cable news station, every news station, 30 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 1: on the front of every goddamn paper in this country, 31 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: we are watching them rewrite and derace history and to 32 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: make us believe that this day never happened. Well, I 33 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: for one will use whatever microphone I am in front 34 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: of whatever platform I am on from now until the 35 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: end of fucking time to mark this day because it 36 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: is one that should go down in infamy in our history. 37 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: If we have the ability after twenty two years of 38 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: the horrific nine to eleven attack on this country by 39 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: foreign terrorists, you tell me why we can't commemorate and 40 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 1: lift up and acknowledge the attack on our democracy by 41 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: white domestic terrorists. So I, for one, choose never to 42 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: forget and to honor those that defended our capital building, 43 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: that defended all of the members inside, and our right 44 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: to vote and our democracy every year on this day 45 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: until justice is served. Coming up next, my conversation with 46 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: our dear friend Glenn Kirshner. Friends, I am always very excited, 47 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: particularly as we start this new year. Glenn, I cannot 48 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: believe that it has been almost three years since we 49 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: have been in conversation, talking about so many things over 50 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: the course of the last three years. But as we 51 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: enter twenty twenty three, wishing you and your family a 52 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: happy new year, I am filled today. Folks. You'll listen 53 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: to this on Monday, but Glenn and I are recording 54 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: this on the actual anniversary of the insurrection, the two 55 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: year anniversary of January sixth, and Glenn, I know before 56 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: we delve in deeply into conversation, how are you feeling today? 57 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on how you feel 58 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: waking up on this anniversary two years later. So on 59 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: the one hand, I want to make sure we honor 60 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: the heroes of January sixth and not only on that 61 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: sort of everything surrounding Donald Trump's efforts to end our 62 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: democracy and the people who stood up against it. I 63 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: am thrilled that President Biden is giving a Presidential Citizens 64 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: Medal not only to Capitol Police officers like Harry Dunn 65 00:04:55,120 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: and Aquilino Gonnell, Metropolitan Police Department officer Mike fin Own, 66 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 1: and importantly Georgia's state election workers Shay Moss and Ruby 67 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: Freeman and others. I think we need to make sure 68 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: that every year we honor their sacrifice what they did 69 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: on and around January sixth. But I'm pretty disgusted that 70 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: there has been not one minute of accountability for Donald 71 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: Trump and his criminal associates and his co conspirators who 72 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: committed crimes that would be easily proved in a court 73 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: of law, and yet nothing has been done to hold 74 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: them accountable. That I will never understand how we've gotten 75 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: to this place where a Department of Justice that was 76 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: my professional home for decades has failed in its responsibility 77 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: to protect our nation and its people. You know, so 78 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: I don't want to be all gloom and doom on 79 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: the anniversary of January sixth, but you know, it doesn't 80 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: really feel like much of an anniversary because I have 81 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: yet to see any public display of the acknowledgement of 82 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: the attack on our democracy on January sixth, and the 83 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: fact that this is the two year anniversary. You know, 84 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: maybe it's early in the day and we'll see something 85 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: later today, but you know, the the attack on our 86 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: nation on January sixth, I believe was far more damaging 87 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: to the health of our republic than the attack on 88 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: nine to eleven. I mean, there's no two ways about it. 89 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: And yet we still seem to be in denial. And 90 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: I hope as time progresses, you know, we move beyond that. 91 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: You know, I woke up this morning in kind of thought, 92 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: in deep thought about the way in which we have 93 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: commemorated and honored the victims of nine to eleven, the 94 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: heroes of nine to eleven, for the last what now 95 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: it will be twenty two years. And we have no 96 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: problem in this country rallying together and pointing fingers when 97 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: those those that perpetrate violence against us are foreign, right, 98 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,119 Speaker 1: we have had no problem. We had no problem after 99 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: nine to eleven rounding up Muslim Americans, right and making 100 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: them register because of the acts of a few. But 101 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: when it pertains to holding white Americans accountable for their violence, 102 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: their anti democratic ideology. We seem not only Glenn, do 103 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: we not have any laws. We don't really even have 104 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: any conviction in terms of how we discuss and how 105 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: we name this day. The Washington Post and I don't 106 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: know if you saw it, but the Washington Post put 107 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: out a piece and I couldn't believe it that the 108 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: US Capital Visitor Center, which I'm sure you've been to, 109 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: I've been through many times, has no plaque, no remembrance, 110 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: no nothing as it pertains to January sixth. The tour 111 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: guides that provide the tours around the Capitol Building to 112 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: mark and denote all the history that is there are 113 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: told to stay silent about January sixth because it's too 114 00:08:53,640 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: quote unquote political. So I'm just wondering, you know, as 115 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: as somebody who lives in the DMV area, as somebody 116 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: like myself who has worked inside of government and believes 117 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: in its structures and believes in history and the constitution, 118 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: what does it say that we are, in real time 119 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: watching the whitewashing and erasure and the rewrite of this 120 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: monumental day. You know, it says that we are a 121 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: nation in decline. That's what it says, Danielle, Because not 122 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: only are we whitewashing it, not only are we failing 123 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: to acknowledge it, but we are also in the process 124 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: of reinstalling in Congress insurrectionists, the very people who aided 125 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: and embedded and gave aid and comfort to and some 126 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 1: who engaged in insurrection. If and when the Congress can, ever, 127 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: the House of Representatives, can ever elect a speaker, those 128 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: insurrectionists will be sworn into Congress. Again, let me just 129 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: read twenty five or thirty words from the fourteenth Amendment 130 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: to the Constitution, because they're unequivocal, and if there's anybody 131 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: that loves them some strict construction of the Constitution, it's 132 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: the Republicans. Yeah, So let's let's read what the Constitution 133 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: says about the members of Congress or the members elect 134 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: who are about to be sworn in, who engaged in insurrection. 135 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: No person shall be a representative in Congress who, having 136 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the 137 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: United States, shall have engaged in insurrection. That is not 138 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: may might can, that is shall, Danielle. The Constitution prohibits 139 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 1: insurrectionists from being sworn in to Congress. What what is 140 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: our government going to do about that? Are they going 141 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: to passively let you know, members of Congress who were 142 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: elected after having engaged in insurrection be sworn in so 143 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: they can continue to destroy us from the inside. That 144 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: is so far beyond us refusing to acknowledge in capital 145 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: tours that the insurrection even happened. That is us, the 146 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: people who are not doing anything about it, basically continuing 147 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: to give aid and comfort to the insurrection. I don't 148 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: understand any of this. I don't understand any of it. 149 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: You know, I couldn't help too, but think to myself, 150 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: because not only are these insurrectionists being sworn in, these 151 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: are people there, And I want folks to remember this 152 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: is not just These are not just people that stood 153 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: up on a dais and repeated Donald Trump's treason as 154 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: talking points. These are people that gave recognisance tours inside 155 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: of the Capitol Building to point out the offices and 156 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: the spaces that their colleagues held so that harm would 157 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: be brought to them. That's what I want people to remember. 158 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: That I think is just entirely glossed over. They knowingly 159 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: gave tours well aware of what was coming the following day. 160 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: Because of all of the chatter that had been happening 161 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: in their own feeds on these social media sites, in 162 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: their chat groups, they knew what kind of harm and 163 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: damage could be brought. And these are the people that 164 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: right now, Glenn have But I don't know who voted, 165 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: and I don't know who gave the direction to remove 166 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: metal detectors all around the house floor that we're put 167 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: there after the insurrection in order to keep members, all 168 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: members safe. I don't trust any of these people to 169 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: not do what happened to Harvey Milk so many decades 170 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,479 Speaker 1: ago and be shot dead by one of your colleagues. 171 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: It's you know, I think that because we are not 172 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: talking about this, because we are not naming this, because 173 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: we're not embedding it as a part of our history. 174 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: My feeling, Glenn, is that what we saw on January six, 175 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: two years ago, was indeed address rehearsal, and that I 176 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: don't know if it is, you know, as had said, 177 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: a lack of imagination on the part of the Department 178 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: of Justice, the FBI and whomember else, or if it 179 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: is just going along for the get along because they 180 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: too want to see the demise of our democracy. You've 181 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: worked inside of this the Department of Justice for three decades, 182 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: and I have been told on so many occasions that 183 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: we need to just be patient. Tell me, has the 184 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: patients run out yet? Oh? It ran out for me 185 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: a long time ago. You know, once you have probable 186 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: cause to believe someone has committed a crime. Now, mind you, 187 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: we have that back during the Mullah Report and even 188 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: before for things like campaign finance crimes that Donald Trump committed. 189 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: Once you have probable cause, you have a responsibility. You 190 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: have a responsibility to assess each and every day whether 191 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: you need to make an arrest because there is a danger, 192 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: there's a da you're in leaving folk out in the 193 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: community like Donald Trump after you know, he tried to 194 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: kill our democracy, and yet they've left him out in 195 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: the community month after month, year after year, and you 196 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: see the result. He continues to tweet lies about you know, 197 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: those two women down in Georgia who were simply trying 198 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: to serve as election workers and were doing their honest best, 199 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: and he put their names out there and their lives 200 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: were threatened. And just when you think Danielle It had 201 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: calmed down, he re ups what he knows to be 202 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: lies about those women, puts them back in harm's way 203 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: in the Department of Justice has failed has failed to 204 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: protect them. By holding Donald Trump accountable for his crimes, 205 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: they are enabling the very crimes Donald Trump continues to commit. Danielle, 206 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: It would be no different if the Department of Justice 207 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: said we're done prosecuting bank robbers. What would that do? 208 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: It would inspire all kinds of people to jump into 209 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: the bank robbery game. When they refuse to prosecute ruling 210 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: class criminals for trying to kill our democracy, they're sending 211 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: the signal to the round the santisis of the world 212 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: a sport. You get to do it all over again 213 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: to unlawfully retain power because we ain't holding Donald Trump 214 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: and company accountable for it, so we're giving you permission 215 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: to do it. This is not rocket science. This is 216 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: law enforcement and good government. One oh one. I don't 217 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: understand how our country has fallen so far, so fast. 218 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: I mean it, really, it is really shocking. When we 219 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: think about two hundred and forty plus years of this 220 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: country's independence and you think about the rot that has 221 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: has been born out of the last seven it is 222 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: really shocking to think just how fragile our democracy is. 223 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: And you know, Glenn, before the holiday, before the break, 224 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: and before the new year, the January sixth Committee had 225 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: to wrap up, and because of the razor thin margin 226 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: that the Republicans won, that they clearly as of right now, 227 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: as of this taping, have had eleven votes for Speaker 228 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: and eleven failures on the part of Kevin McCarthy, eleven 229 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: failures on the part of the Republican Party, and eleven 230 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: failures towards keeping our country safe. And we just continue 231 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: to go on. They release their final report, which laid 232 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: out their reasoning, their evidence behind the four criminal referrals 233 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: that they have provided to the Department of Justice. I 234 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: know that you haven't read the entirety of this voluminous report, 235 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: but I wanted to give you space to offer some 236 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: of the highlights because I know that right before the 237 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: break and during the break, you were speaking about the 238 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: report it's importance and the importance of these referrals. That again, 239 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: seven years prior to Donald Trump, this would have been 240 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: wall to wall coverage news day in and day out. 241 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: But we know in the current climate, Nixon would have 242 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: gotten off and probably lived out a second term so 243 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: tell us some of the highlights that you have seen 244 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: and read from the report. Yeah, so let me hit 245 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: three things, Danielle. First of all, we're forever conditioned to 246 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: look for the smoking gun, the blockbuster piece of evidence. Right, 247 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: That's why we watch Law and Order, forever read crime 248 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: fiction novels. I'm a crime fiction junkie. It's kind of fun. 249 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: The reality is, in my thirty years prosecuting cases, I 250 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: rarely had a smoking gun or a blockbuster piece of evidence. 251 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: I built cases on a thousand points of circumstantial evidence 252 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: that I had to pull together for the jury into 253 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: one cohesive picture. It's a picture of guilt beyond a 254 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: reasonable doubt. So first of all, Donald Trump and his 255 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: criminal associates understand the value of flooding the zone because 256 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: when everything is criminal, then nothing, no one thing persuades people. 257 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: Right that, because there is the missing smoking gun. The 258 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: reality is all of the evidence in there is smoking guns. 259 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Donald Trump is shrouded in gun smoke and 260 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: will always be shrouded in gun smoke. But first of all, 261 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: the one overarching observation about the report is it is 262 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: like what we call a case impression memo, a prosecution report, 263 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: because all of the evidence that you need to convict 264 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and his co conspirators are right there in 265 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: black and white in the report. The only impediment to 266 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: a Trump conviction right now is a Trump indictment. All 267 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: we need is an indictment. We walk into court, we 268 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: firmly plant our feet in the well, and we argue 269 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: to twelve citizens in a jury box sitting as the 270 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: conscience of the community, and they will vote guilty. They 271 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: will vote guilty as long as we can impanel a 272 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: fair and impartial jury, and I believe we can for 273 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. Here are some of that. So 274 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: that's the overarching observation about the report. Let me use 275 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: two pieces of the report to compare and contrast two 276 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: things that we learned from two people inside Trump world. 277 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: One is Hope Picks and one is Cassidy Hutchinson. Let 278 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: me start with Hope Picks. Hope Hicks, who was a 279 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: long time Donald Trump loyalist, a member of his inner circle, 280 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: who knew she could be so compelling because in just 281 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: a couple of text messages that she sent on January, 282 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: as is revealed in the report, she tells us everything 283 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: we need to know about the Trump administration and the insurrection. 284 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: She on January sixth, while the attack on the Capitol 285 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: was ongoing, she said, Oh my god, now everybody is 286 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: going to look at us like domestic terrorists. Check. That's 287 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: because the Trump administration launched the attack on our democracy, 288 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: and they are domestic terrorists. So what she announced, number 289 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: one is that everybody on the inside Trump's in her 290 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: circle knew Trump was responsible for the insurrection too. She said, 291 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: the only people that will have us now for speaking 292 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: engagements are the Proud Boys. So she announced who Donald 293 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: Trump's allies were in the insurrection, A white supremacist nationalist group, 294 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: the Proud Boys. Check. And then she said something that 295 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: is in some ways even more disturbing than those first 296 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: two things, because we already knew those first two things. 297 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: She said, while police officers were being attacked, while they 298 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: were looking to hang Mike Pence, while they were hunting 299 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: for Nancy Pelosi and our other lawmakers, Hope Hicks said, man, 300 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: I am never going to be able to get a 301 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: job again in the future. She was more concerned about 302 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: her own job prospects than she cared about the people 303 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: putting their lives on the line at the US Capitol. 304 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: So what that shows us is that Trump and his 305 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: inner circle were never there to serve the public. They 306 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: wanted to know how the public can serve them and 307 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: their interests financial and otherwise. That's the takeaway from Hope 308 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: Hicks text messages on January sixth. Let's go to Cassidy 309 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: Hutchinson because she was also part of Trump World. She 310 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: was Mark Meadows right hand, you know, Gal Friday, and 311 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: she saw a lot of what was going on in 312 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: the Oval Office and in the area surrounding the Oval Office. 313 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: And first of all, Trump World forced a lawyer on her, 314 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: the guy named Yestefahn Passantino get this for Irony, a 315 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: White House ethics counsel, and she kept asking him, Stefan, 316 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: who the hell's paying for you? Because you're my lawyer, 317 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: but I'm not paying for you. He wouldn't tell her. 318 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: He wouldn't tell her that it was a Trump pack, 319 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: a Trump affiliated organization that was paying for him. He 320 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: did tell her at one point, listen, we are here 321 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: to focus on protecting the president, do you know That's 322 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: what her lawyer said to her, not that we are 323 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: here to protect you and make sure you don't go 324 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: to jail, but we're here to protect the president. Focusing 325 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: on protecting the president, do you know what a legal 326 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: transgression that is for a lawyer to represent the interests 327 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: of somebody other than his client. I mean, that's an 328 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,719 Speaker 1: instantly desborable offense. But setting that aside because he's got 329 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: criminal exposure, in my opinion, He then was urging her. 330 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: You know, you can say you don't recall things. She's like, 331 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: but I do recall things. And her first few appearances 332 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: in front of the J six Committee, she was on 333 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: the Trump train, being represented by a Trump loyalist, and 334 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: she was all about, I don't remember, I don't recall. 335 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: I don't Oh jeez, I don't know. I can't. And 336 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: then she had to look herself in the mirror, she said, 337 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: and she reached out the family, and that's a whole 338 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: other story and a very sad story. And she finally said, 339 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: I can't do this anymore. She fired Stefan. She hired 340 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: an actual lawyer who had her interests at heart. She 341 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: went back into the J six committee and she corrected 342 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: the record and started telling the truth. And one there 343 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: was one moment when she said, you know, when I 344 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: was on the Trump train. I came out and I 345 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: said to Stefan, oh, my effing god, I just committed 346 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: perjury because I said I didn't recall something that I 347 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: do recall, and he said, I can't quote it, verbade him, 348 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: but he basically said, yeah, but they you know what 349 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: they don't know what you recall and what you don't, 350 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: so don't worry about it. And then he said something 351 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: that I want to finish with because this comes back 352 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: to the Department of Justice and its failure to hold 353 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: folk accountable. He said, at one point to Cassidy Hutchinson, 354 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: while he was still her attorney, why don't you just 355 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: start defy the congressional subpoena because you've already appeared a 356 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: couple of times. Basically, she'd been towing the I don't 357 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: know party line. Why don't you just defy the subpoena? 358 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: You know why, Cassidy, Because Mark Meadows and Dan Scovino 359 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: defied congressional subpoenas and the Department of Justice did nothing 360 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: to them. What does that doesn't that kind of go 361 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: back to the whole If you stop prosecuting bank robbery, 362 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: everybody's going to jump into the bank robbery game. That 363 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: highlights Danielle and I can't be more emphatic about it. 364 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: That highlights the danger of the Department of Justice refusing 365 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: to enforce the law against the ruling class criminals like 366 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: Mark Meadows and Dan Scovino, because it inspires others to say, oh, 367 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: they didn't get punished for defying congressional subpoenas, for hiding 368 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: the evidence of Donald Trump's crimes, for refusing to testify. 369 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to do that too. That's why the Department 370 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: of Justice has to enforce the damned law against the 371 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: ruling class criminals more importantly than frankly, the purse snatchers 372 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: or the car thieves, right, because the ruling class criminals 373 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: are the ones who do large swaths of damage to 374 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: our democracy. So, you know, Cassidy Hutchinson, thank goodness, came 375 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: around and told the truth, and as a result, I 376 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: absolutely believe you will see Jack Smith drop indictments for 377 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: conspiracy to tamper with witnesses like Cassidy Hutchinson. And I 378 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: was thrilled to see in the J six report that 379 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: they didn't just refer Donald Trump for prosecution for the insurrection, 380 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: which he did. They didn't just refer him for conspiracy 381 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: to defraud the United States, which he did, and they 382 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: didn't just refer him for obstruction of official proceedings trying 383 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: to stop the certification of Joe Biden's win, which they did. 384 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: They also referred him and this was the sleeper charge 385 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: for conspiracy to tamper with witnesses, more specifically, conspiracy to 386 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 1: make a false statement. That is the conspiracy he seems 387 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: to have been in with, at a minimum Stefan Passantino 388 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: to try to shut up Cassidy Hutchinson. He's going to 389 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: be indicted for that. I mean, Glenn, last question for you, 390 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: and I appreciate so much you laying out these highlights 391 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: that the fact that you know, oftentimes there isn't a 392 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: smoking gun. But I don't know how much more smoke 393 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice is looking for. I really don't. 394 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: It's like a fucking bonfire at this point. Jack Smith 395 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: was appointed at the end of last year to be 396 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 1: the special counsel when we knew that the Department of 397 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: Justice didn't need a special counsel. We have been told 398 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: time and time again. Oh, he's come back to the 399 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: United States from the Hague. He's prosecuted war criminals, and 400 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: mobsters and all of these things, and he's not afraid 401 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: to lose. I mean, I am running out of faith 402 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: right as I know that you are, because I remember, 403 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: I remember you telling all of us be patient. This 404 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: is going to take time. We want to get this right, 405 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: all of these things. And here we sit two years later, 406 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty three, Glenn. Are we saying that this 407 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: is going to be the year? And if it's not, 408 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to assume then it will never be because 409 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four is the presidential election. Yeah, we have 410 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: hero fatigue, Danielle. I think both you and I have 411 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: hero fatigue. I don't have a lot of heroes. I 412 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: am exactly one picture on my desk in a frame. 413 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: And to the extent I have any heroes, I mean, 414 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: this is maybe the guy Abe Lincoln. That's it. So yes, 415 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: I worked for Bob Muller. I looked up to Bob Muller. 416 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: I learned from Bob Muller, and I had high hopes 417 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: for Bob Muller's report. I think when you read the report, 418 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: let's never forget that he documented several felony crimes committed 419 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: by Donald Trump of obstruction of justice. And he handed 420 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: it to Bill Barr, and Bill Barr lied about it 421 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: and basically killed any opportunity for Trump to be held 422 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: accountable by his lies. That's one of the reasons the 423 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: Republicans in the Senate killed all of the other opportunities 424 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: to hold Trump accountable politically in the impeachment trial. So, 425 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: I you know, Bob Muller, I don't believe let the 426 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: country down the way some people now come to argue 427 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: he did, because he gave and don't forget he said. 428 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, Trump could be indicted the 429 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: day he leaves office, and nobody has done that. That's 430 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: not Bob Muller's sport fault. I'm not here arguing that 431 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: he did the perfect job. I'm arguing this is why 432 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: I have hero fatigue. I thought Mueller would bring it home. 433 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: I think he was prevented from bringing it home. I 434 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: thought Merrick Garland, given his history, given his backstory, given 435 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: his work as a prosecutor and his twenty four years 436 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: as a judge, and the fact that both Obama and 437 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: Biden credited this man as the right man for first 438 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court and then the Department of Justice, how 439 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: can that not give you confidence. How can it not 440 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: give you confidence? If it was Mitch McConnell and Donald 441 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: Trump and Lindsey Graham saying Merrick Garland's the right man 442 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: from the job, I would say, everybody run in the 443 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: other direction away from Merrick Garland, because you know he 444 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: can't be trusted and we were let down. Yep, we've 445 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: been let down. I'm not prepared to say, Jack Smith, 446 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: here we go. Third times a charm? How many times 447 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna fool us? Right? However, if anybody has the 448 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: actual bona fide days in recent history, not ancient history, 449 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: like Merrick Garland twenty five years before four he was 450 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: nominated to be ag you know, the guy is not 451 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: only a war crimes prosecutor, but he goes after political criminals, 452 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: criminal politicians, and he has prosecuted them over and over 453 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: and over again. Left, right and center, right, Bob Menendez, 454 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: Bob McDonald, John Edwards, that Arizona Republican representative who he 455 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: convicted of bribery, CIA officer for compromising classified materials, over 456 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: and over and over and over. I mean you can 457 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: look at his body of work and say it's there, 458 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: it is verifiable. And I love that he's lost some 459 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: cases and won some cases because he's not afraid to 460 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: take politically charged cases that are really difficult to prove. 461 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: Give me a prosecutor who is fearless, a real without 462 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: fear or favor guy or gal. That's who I want 463 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: to be in the prosecutorial trenches with fighting shoulder to shoulder. 464 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: But I agree with you, Danielle. If twenty twenty three 465 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: isn't the year, and if Jack Smith isn't the guy, 466 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: then our republic is limping toward extinction, and better republics 467 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: than us have fallen. We can fall to if we 468 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: don't take seriously the responsibility to hold the ruling class 469 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: criminals accountable. At least Jack Smith has shown he has 470 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: tried to hold ruling class criminals accountable, including senators who 471 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: are running for president of the United States like Bob Edwards. 472 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: So he's our last best shot. Yeah, Glenn, you know, 473 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: I tell you that I really appreciate your insight, and 474 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: I actually and I really appreciate you today Again, folks 475 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: who were recording this on the anniversary of January sixth 476 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: to two year anniversary, because frankly, I don't know if 477 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: anyone else is going to have an in depth conversation 478 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: about the real danger that this country remains in today, 479 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: which is going to be a tragedy. So Glenn, thank 480 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: you as always for joining Woke app and sharing your 481 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: analysis and your passion for the law and for justice. 482 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: We really appreciate you. Thanks, Danielle, I'll see you next week. 483 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 1: That is it for me today, dear friends on Woke App. 484 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: As always, power to the people and to all the people. Power, 485 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: get woke and stay woke as fuck.