1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Doesn't it seem like that game with Buffalo 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: and the Colts was two weeks ago? It was the 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: first game on Saturday. And I kept thinking back this morning, like, wow, 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: that was such a long time ago. And then you 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: had the game last night where it starts out and 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: it's twenty eight to nothing, and I go, I don't 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: know if there's anything else to see here other than 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: let me see what Ben Roethlisberger does. Is this the 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: last game of Ben Roethlisberger's career. This is a team 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: that went one in five down the stretch. I thought 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: if Kevin Stefanski, their head coach, was on the sidelines 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: last night, they were going to win this game. Now, 14 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: they didn't need him, but they were prepped. And I 15 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: go back to what Dan Orlovsky The Mothership said last week. 16 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: He said Stefanski plans out scripts out the first fifteen plays, 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: and he said they need to jump out on top early. 18 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: If they do, then they can win this game. If 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: they don't, then they won't win this game. Well, you 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: jump out twenty eight to nothing, you're going to win. 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: And now you look at this team and you say 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: how good is Cleveland? Because the Browns have had a 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: lot of bad history with the Steelers, and last night 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: it seemed like they were trying to make up for 25 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: all of that in just one game and did a 26 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: pretty good job. They jumped out to a twenty eighth 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: nothing league first quarter and they never looked back. And 28 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: you have to think about it. And I have a 29 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: lot of relatives who were Browns fans and heard from 30 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: a lot of them last night, early and often they 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: were exercising all those demons. The Steelers were thirty five, 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: seven and one against the Browns. Since the Browns came 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: back to Cleveland in nineteen ninety nine, they'd lost only 34 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: once in Pittsburgh that was back in two thousand and three. 35 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: The Steelers have Lombardi Trophies. The Browns have heartbreak. They 36 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: lead the league in heartbreak. The Browns didn't have their 37 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: head coach. He's at home with COVID, but they look 38 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: like they were the blue blood franchise, poised, confident, swagger. 39 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: I'll go back to a theme that I keep reminding 40 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: you of the last couple of weeks. It feels like 41 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: Cleveland knows who they are and as strange as that 42 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: may sound, you can see some of these teams in 43 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: the playoffs, certainly in the regular season. I don't know 44 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: if Pittsburgh knew who they were the last two months 45 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: of the season. Certain teams find their identity. I don't 46 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: know if New Orleans who knows who they are, but 47 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: they looked pretty good against the Chicago Bears, at least 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: good enough. I think Tampa is sort of finding itself. 49 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: You watch for these teams at the end of the year, 50 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: the last two or three games, and then I do 51 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: wonder Pittsburgh rested their starters in that final regular season 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: game against Cleveland, and it looked like they were rusty 53 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: when they all came back out on to the field. 54 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if Cleveland is a serious threat to 55 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: come out of the afcing, but I said a couple 56 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: of weeks ago that they have a team, they have 57 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: a style, They have talent that travels, and that means 58 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: they can play defense and they can run the football. 59 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: If Baker Mayfield doesn't make mistakes, force things, try to 60 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: act like Brett Farve, then this is a team that 61 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: will keep it close with Kansas City, in my opinion, 62 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: and Kansas City has allowed teams to stay in games. 63 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: Now you can say they do, they sort of toy 64 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: with you, but then they win these games, which is true. 65 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: But as I've pointed out before, at some point you 66 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: think you can let a team sort of hang around 67 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you realize you're in trouble. 68 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: But Kansas City against the Cleveland Browns. As much as 69 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: we look at that and say Kansas City should win, 70 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: that keep factoring in the lack of a home field advantage. 71 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: I truly believe if Pittsburgh had a packed house last night, 72 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen that you're down twenty eight to nothing. 73 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they're winning the game. Seattle packed house. 74 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 1: Are they losing that game to them? Maybe they still do. 75 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: I thought the Rams were the better team. But this 76 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: lack of home field advantage is going to help somebody 77 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: that you probably wouldn't expect it would help, or it 78 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: might hurt a team that relies on that that energy, 79 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: and it is something that is tangible when you talk 80 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: to players. When you go to certain places like New Orleans, 81 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: like Kansas City, like Seattle, like Pittsburgh, like Green Bay, 82 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: you have that home field advantage and you rely on it. 83 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: That is your twelfth man is what Seattle has eight 84 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: seven seven three d P Show email address Dpadan Patrick 85 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: dot com, twitter handle at DP show. Will come up 86 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: with a pole question, play of the day, some interesting 87 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: stats of the day as well. So Bills over the Colts, 88 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: Rams beat the Seahawks, Bucks over Washington, Ravens over the Titans, 89 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: Saints over the Bears, and Browns over the Steelers. And 90 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: tonight Ohio State versus Alabama in the National Title Game. 91 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: Chris sims on loan from prof A Ball Talk, will 92 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: join us. Coming up in a little bit. Here have 93 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: we seen the last of Ben Roethlisberger. Here's Baker Mayfield 94 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: talking about nobody gave the Browns a chance to beat 95 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers. They wasn't about that specifically. Yeah, it's the 96 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: same quote. But we believe in the people in this 97 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: room no matter what's going on. As soon as the 98 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: COVID news came out that we were missing some key guys, 99 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: obviously are starting with our head coach. We knew that 100 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: everybody is counting South, and we knew what mentality we 101 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: were going to have, and it's just to cut it 102 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: loose and go out there and give it everything we had, 103 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: but there was no added pressure, there was no extra anything. 104 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: It was just for us to go out and do 105 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: our job because no one believed in us besides us. Yeah, 106 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: as long as they keep this identity, don't get overly confident, 107 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: don't change who you are. Go into Kansas City and 108 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: be businesslike, knowing this is who we are, this is 109 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: what we do, and then you take your chances. You 110 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: don't need to do anything crazy here. You have the 111 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: talent to keep this close, and you have the talent 112 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: to win this game. But if if Kansas City all 113 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: of a sudden says, you know what, let's see who 114 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: these Browns are. Let's let Baker try to win this game. 115 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: We've seen that before that it doesn't end well. But 116 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: if Cleveland stays with a game plan that they've had 117 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, Cleveland could win this game. 118 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: As strange as that's going to sound. You know, Tampa's 119 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: got the Saints again. And as much as we think 120 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: you can't beat somebody three times in the row, I 121 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: think the numbers are around sixty seven sixty eight percent 122 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: of the time, the team that won the first two 123 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: is going to win the third and it's back in 124 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: New Orleans. You know, how good are the Bills? The 125 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: Bills against the Ravens. I give credit to the Colts, 126 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: you know, I thought the Colts were the better team 127 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: for most of that game, but a couple of questionable 128 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: decisions by Frank Wright came back to haunt him. Back 129 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: to questionable decisions. Mike Tomlin down twelve, fourth quarter, fourth 130 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: and one. If not now, then when are you going 131 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: to go for this? First play? Fourth quarter, fourth and one. 132 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: You've got some momentum, you're down twelve. Here's Ben Roethlisberger 133 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: after the game, talk about my family, discussions, decisions, and 134 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, I still a year left of my contract. 135 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: Though I hope the Steelers won't be back if if 136 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: that's the way we go, and there'll be a lot 137 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: of discussions. But but now it's not the time for that. Yeah. 138 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: I know Ben wants to come back. It's the right 139 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: thing to say. But if you were Pittsburgh, this is 140 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: where you have that conversation with him and is it 141 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: best for both parties. Ben came back through four touchdowns, 142 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: through four interceptions, through five hundred yards. But this is 143 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: a team that I don't know if they knew who 144 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: they were on offense after you know, they start out 145 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: what eleven and oh then they went one in five. 146 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: I mean they forgot who they were, or at least 147 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: they weren't comfortable with who they were. Mclove and what 148 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: do you have for me today? Okay, we got two 149 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: debates over here. First off, which fan base should be 150 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: most upset today? Most disappointed? Seattle obviously, Pittsburgh obviously. I 151 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: don't think Washington falls into that. No, No, Washington should 152 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: be very proud of what they did. Given everything that happened. 153 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: You know, they had no Alex Smith, Tyler Henneke, Heineke 154 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: played extremely well. I thought that they they held their 155 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: own with Tampa Bay. They didn't get embarrassed against Tampa Bay. 156 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: You had Ron Rivera battling cancer, Alex Smith coming back, 157 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: they got rid of Dwayne Haskins, They survived all the 158 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: nonsense off the field with their owner, and I would 159 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: feel pretty good going into next season. They may not 160 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: have their starting quarterback, but they got a really good 161 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: defensive line. They got some skill position players and this 162 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: might be one of those. Put in a good quarterback, 163 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: maybe bordering on a very good quarterback, and you might 164 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: see some magic there with Washington again next season. Do 165 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: the Bears belong on the most disappointed fan base? No, 166 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: I would be happy with what you accomplished. You went 167 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: to the playoffs in two of the last three years. 168 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: You know what, we say goodbye to Mitchell Trubisky. Some 169 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: nice parting gifts, and I think they did the best 170 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: with what they had. The problem is where they got. 171 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: You know, how they got there is not how you 172 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: would want to design this that you passed up on 173 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: Mahomes and Deshaun Watson. Mitchell Trubisky got you ish to 174 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs. He won the Nickelodeon Award, so there's some 175 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: solace in that. By the way, I enjoyed the Nickelodeon. 176 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: I enjoyed what Nickelodeon did. I had no issues turning 177 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 1: away from Jim Nanson Tony Romo and settling on Nickelodeon. 178 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: That was a dreadfully boring game and Nickelodeon I thought 179 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: they did a great job. I thought it was fun, 180 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: it was different. I don't know if it if we 181 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: get too much of a good thing or it's too 182 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: much of a good thing. Nate Burlson was very enjoyable, 183 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: but I thought They did a pretty good job with that. 184 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: What else? Wait, one complaint? They had to slime Noah 185 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Eeagle in the last moment. If it gets so nobody 186 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: the announces got slimed. They threatened too, but they didn't. 187 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: And Noah was doing the play by play Iron Eagles, 188 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: the son who does the Clippers games. Oh, the disappointed 189 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: fan base. We didn't talk about the two AFC South teams, 190 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: the Colts and the Titans. Would they belong on the poll? 191 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: The Titans, I'd be disappointed. If I'm a Titans fan. 192 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: We're at home, you're up ten nothing, and you're not 193 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: doing anything with Derrick Henry. You would contain Lamar Jackson. Yes, 194 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: so I would be disappointed. The Colts. I thought the Colts. 195 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been surprised if the Colts won that game. 196 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: And I can't at this at the feet of Philip Rivers. 197 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: I thought Philip Rivers had a better season than I've 198 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: been giving him credit for. They ran the football, the 199 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: defense is pretty good. There at times I thought they 200 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: were the better team, but they were on the road. 201 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: Tennessee was at home Tennessee and Pittsburgh. That's where you 202 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: got to be pretty bummed out. If you're Pittsburgh, you've 203 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: got to be devastated because you got embarrassed, and you 204 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: got embarrassed by the Cleveland Browns. Yeah, I'm a club. Yeah. 205 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: The other big pole question I think we'll do it 206 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: two for Tuesday today is which quarterback is most likely 207 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: to retire out of those rivers you just mentioned Big Band, 208 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: then Breeze and Brady as well. Well, Brady's not Brady's 209 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: not retiring. I know that for a fact. Drew Brees, 210 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get information. I'm trying to get somebody 211 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: to confirm what I found out yesterday. And he's got 212 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: a big job with him and then you know at NBC, 213 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: it's just waiting there for him. You're going to be 214 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: a studio guy and then he'll do some Notre Dame football, 215 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: it looks like. But I got to get it confirmed 216 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: of what I was told last night about Breeze. If 217 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: something happens in the next round or they get you know, 218 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of I don't think it's cut and dried, 219 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: as much as I feel like it probably should be that. 220 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: But you know, Drew probably says I can make all 221 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: these throws. I mean, give me Michael Thomas back, give 222 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: me Kamara. I can make these throws. I can be 223 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: right there on par And the fact that he's going 224 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: to go against Brady in this next round. If he 225 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: beats Brady, he's probably thinking, well, Brady's coming back next year, 226 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: and he's a couple of years older than me. I 227 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: don't know if it's as cut and dried as everybody's 228 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: making this out to be. Ben. I never want to 229 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: tell somebody to retire. I never want to and wouldn't 230 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: do this. Do I think Ben Ben wants to come back. 231 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: Do I think the Steelers want him back? I think 232 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: that's the king. I think you have to act like 233 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: you wanting back because and you can't say anything now. 234 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: And Frank Reich has said he wants Philip Rivers back, 235 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: Well what else is he gonna say? No, I don't 236 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: want him back. That's you say the right thing publicly here. 237 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: But if I'm Philip Rivers, I still want to play 238 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: another season. He completed sixty eight percent of his passes. 239 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: It's a solid team, it's a really good offensive line. 240 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: I got a running attack there. Ben would be the 241 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: one I Ben, probably because I just I think he's 242 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: he's gone through an awful lot and he's banged up, 243 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: not healthy. I don't know if we'll ever be completely healthy. 244 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: Breeze is probably gonna go. If I beat Brady, why 245 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 1: would I retire? Yeah, Paully, you imagine Philip Rivers at 246 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: home with twenty three kids next year, going, what am 247 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: I doing? They're out there throwing the ball or out 248 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 1: there in the playoffs. I'm at home with twentieth I've kids. Yeah, 249 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: twenty three and me has a whole different meaning to 250 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers that it does to most other people. Yeah, 251 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: looking for their family tree, twenty three and me the 252 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers story with his kids. You ask me club, 253 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm getty ahead of myself. But if you don't have Ben, 254 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: then who like that's the uh, you know, if you 255 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: don't have Rivers, then who? Well, in Chicago it's anything 256 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: but bisky. Yeah, but even that is that cam is that? Okay? 257 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: Let's say the Jets take Justin Fields and you can 258 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: get Sam Darnold. I keep coming back to Sam Darnold. 259 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: I think Sam Darnold is somebody. If I'm Pittsburgh, or 260 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: if something happened with Jimmy Garoppolo, Matt Ryan, I don't 261 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if Matt Ryan's going to be back. 262 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: And look at the draft. I got four or five 263 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are going drafted in the first round and then 264 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: you got Matthew Stafford in there. Like there's there's a 265 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: lot of movement there. Could Cam go to Washington. I 266 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: just think this is it's a game of musical chairs 267 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: here in the off season at that position. Yes, the 268 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: cap hit on Ben by Way if he stays with 269 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: forty forty or forty one, and if he leaves like 270 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: twenty oh man, Yeah, I would be surprised if he's 271 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: their starting quarterback next year. If I'm Pittsburgh and I'm 272 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: going to have that young defense again, they had all 273 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: those injuries. And by the way, Juju Smith Schuster have 274 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: been I've been critical of but he played well yesterday. 275 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: They target him nineteen times yesterday. But I you know, 276 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: he has to decide do you want to be a star, 277 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: like a not a social influencer, but a star because 278 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: you can be because Antonio Brown. And by the way, 279 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is a big difference maker for Tampa. Now, 280 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: I had a touchdown yesterday, Chris Godwin hang on some footballs. 281 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: Man oh Man, But yeah, I think if Juju Smith Schuster, 282 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: if they're you know, satisfied with James Connor. But that 283 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: defense is really good. But I don't know about Ben 284 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: as you move forward, it feels like that's a transitional 285 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: period right now for him. Yes, they really can't run 286 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: the ball anymore. That's weird. They the broadcaster said, like, 287 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: this is not the Steelers. We know they throw the 288 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: ball sixty times a game. They knew and I said 289 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: at the time, when they were undefeated or maybe had 290 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: one loss, I said, you can't throw the ball fifty 291 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: times if you're the Steelers didn't win games, and they 292 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: proved that. Yeah, poem, I think I'd be really frustrated 293 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: if I were a Seahawks fan, because the first half 294 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: of the season, you look like you're going to the 295 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Your offense looks unstoppable. They couldn't pass yesterday, 296 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: which has never been their problem. They did run the 297 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: ball a little bit, the defense was averaged. I mean, 298 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: they had Jared Golf with one thumb and they couldn't win. 299 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: And they got manhandled even when Aaron Donald was out 300 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: of the game. The Rams are kicking them around Yeah, 301 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey worth the trade. Yeah, you know Rams stole that, 302 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: but good for them. Yeah. If I'm Seattle, I wonder 303 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: has Seattle recovered from the Malcolm Butler interception in the 304 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I mean, I really wonder if you're just like, hey, 305 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: this is still haunting this franchise for some reason. And 306 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: I thought that their defense was going to be better. 307 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: But give credit to the Rams because they made Russell 308 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: Wilson look uncomfortable and that doesn't happen very often, but 309 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: they hit him ten times. You saw Russell Wilson play 310 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: in a way that I haven't seen him play very 311 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: often in his career, and you know, the Rams went 312 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: at him. You know, when Jamal Adams knocks Wolford out, 313 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: Paulie goes, I wonder if they'll blame Jamal Adams for 314 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: losing this game? And I went why and he goes 315 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: because now golf comes in. What if golf leads them 316 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: to victory. Now, granted, Jared Goff didn't play great, but 317 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams knocks Wolford out and then golf comes in 318 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: and sort of managed a game. Acres was great, but 319 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: it was that defense. I never thought Seattle was threatening 320 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: in that game. Yeah, Paul, I think you said this 321 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: about a month ago, three weeks about Aaron Donald and 322 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: the Rams. If you don't give him Defensive Player of 323 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: the Year, you're picking someone else, just to pick someone else. Yes, 324 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: that's how good he is. It really is. It is 325 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: kind of silly to not give it to him. You 326 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: have to just say, well, he got his, so it's 327 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: a new person. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 328 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 329 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: morning nine to noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific 330 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The 331 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or 332 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by 333 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: searching f s R, or stream us live on the 334 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: Peacock app. Chris Sims the former NFL quarterback who joins 335 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 1: us on the program. Chris, thanks for joining us. Let 336 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: me start with the quarterback we are most likely to 337 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: not see next season. Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, Drew Brees. Okay, 338 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,239 Speaker 1: the one we're most likely not to see. I mean, 339 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: I think it's really up in the air for all 340 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: three of them. I'll say I don't see Big Ben. 341 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: I think Big Ben's gonna try to give it one 342 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: more year, all right, So I'm gonna say that. And 343 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: I think for what he's done for the Pittsburgh organization, 344 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: if he says he wants to come back one more year, 345 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: they'll probably let him. But Drew Brees, Philip Rivers one, 346 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think Philip Rivers is probably the guy 347 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: I would say is the most likely we won't see again. 348 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, I think it's a little bit like Ben Roethlisberger. 349 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: If he says he wants to come back, they're gonna 350 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: bring him back. But I do get a feel or 351 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: a sense just by some of the comments Sean Payton 352 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: made during the year that they'd like to move on 353 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. But I think Rivers would probably be 354 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: the leader in the clubhouse on that one. Who deserves 355 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: the heat for the Steelers lost last night, well, you know, overall, 356 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: just the whole offensive unit, the approach, everything they did, 357 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, towards the end of the year. You know, 358 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: I think I came out a few weeks ago. It's 359 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: one thing to be predictable. It's one thing to be 360 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: predictable within your predictability. I mean, okay, we're gonna we're 361 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: gonna throw the ball, and now you know we're gonna 362 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: throw the ball, so they're predictably predictable, right, that's a 363 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: better way to say it. See me and me in 364 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: English aren't always all that good, but that's the way 365 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: to say. That's why they pay you. Then pretty yeah, yeah, 366 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: me talk pretty right, Me play football? Me blonde, I mean, 367 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: not that smart. So but but that's like, I think 368 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: that's it though, when when you talk about it, it's 369 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: we know they're gonna throw the ball, okay, and then 370 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: to compound it, we know they're gonna throw the ball 371 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: five yards down the field, you know, over the middle 372 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: of the middle of the ball, middle of the field, 373 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: that area. And I think that's really the issue. I mean, 374 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: come on, snap over the head, that interception over the 375 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: running back's head in a formation and a play set 376 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 1: that they usually don't do, play action one man route, 377 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: you know. Then they get into the next drive and 378 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: it's a third and one and they can't even run 379 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: the ball for a yard if they really want to, 380 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: because that's not what they are. So it's really overall 381 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: just the offense in general, and of course Big Ben's 382 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: a big part of that. By the way, we're focusing 383 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: on the teams that lost over the weekend right now, 384 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: and then we'll talk about, you know, moving forward. So 385 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: just so you know, the Rams and the Seahawks. You know, 386 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised at what happened. I'm surprised at how 387 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: it happened. It really felt like the Rams that was 388 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: a varsity in Seattle was a junior varsity. How did 389 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: that happen at home to Seattle? Yeah, well, the Rams 390 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: defense is special. That's the first thing and the one 391 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: thing I say when I really break down Rams Seahawks matchups. Two, 392 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: you got to remember the Rams were built to beat 393 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. You know, when Sean McVeigh took over Seahawks 394 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: for King of the World. You know, so you're gonna 395 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: build your team to wait, how are we gonna win 396 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: our division? And that was, you know, priority number one. 397 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: So really on the field, player for player, they match 398 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: up well with them. And then the defense for the Rams, 399 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: you know, just what a due to the Seahawks. They 400 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: got a front four that can contain Russell Wilson. They 401 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: got a DK Metcalfe Racer and Jalen Ramsey, And I 402 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: think the big thing is just to focus on the Seahawks, 403 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 1: like you're saying they need another idea guy on the 404 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. I like Brian Schottenheimer, but 405 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: it's like maybe, like I would say with Greg Roman 406 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, it might be one of those things where 407 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: you go, we need to bring a passing game coordinator 408 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: in here to just infuse a few more ideas and 409 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: things into our offense, because as you see, it's very 410 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: stale and teams really caught onto it the last four 411 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: or five weeks of the year. How should Washington fans 412 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: feel today that their organizations going in the right direction. 413 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: There's a lot to be excited about. I don't think 414 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: kaylor Heineke is going to be the future of the franchise, 415 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: But either way, that was amazing with what the hell 416 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: we saw the other night, I mean, right, I don't know. 417 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: I just kept going, all right, here comes the blowout. 418 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: What he did? Whoa unbelievable right, here comes the blow out, 419 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: and then he'd pull out another unbelievable football play. But 420 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 1: between that defense, you know, some of the guys they 421 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: got all over there, you know, even in the secondary. 422 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: They got a good offensive line, they got a star 423 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: receiver and Terry McLaurin and Tonio Gibson, who was playing 424 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: hurt here at the end of the year, is a 425 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: really damn good running back. Dan They're a team I 426 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: would say, like they get this quarterback situation figured out. 427 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: Watch out for Washington. In twenty twenty one, what happened 428 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 1: to the Titans. The Titans ran into a healthy Baltimore 429 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: Ravens defense. The first time they played. There was no 430 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: Brandon Williams or Calais Campbell. They dominated the line of scrimmage, 431 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: the Ravens defensive line, Brandon Williams, Klais Campbell, Matt Judon. 432 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: They kicked butt. And I think the rookie linebackers they 433 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: have in Patrick Queen and Malie Harrison too. You know, 434 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: the fact that they got to see Tennessee earlier I 435 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: think helped them how to defend the run game and 436 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: what to do properly. There was really a big thing. 437 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: And then those two corners in the back end, the 438 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: fact that you can rely on them and go, wait, 439 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: we gotta stop Derrick Henry and then we gotta put 440 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: you guys on an island versus A. J. Brown and 441 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: Corey Davis. No, that's that's a special defensive unit. And 442 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,479 Speaker 1: of course you know that offense for the Baltimore Ravens 443 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: and their physicality and Lamar Dan. If they just throw 444 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: it just enough like we saw yesterday with Hollywood Brown 445 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: outside the numbers and just attack that part of the 446 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: field to where defenses have to defend it, it's gonna 447 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: help their offense out big time. It's gonna open up 448 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: the running lanes and everything like that. I thought that 449 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: was one of the underrated aspects of the game yesterday. 450 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: I guess I should mention the Bears to be professional. Sure, 451 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: I guess the one question I have is, you know, 452 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: what do you do with Mitchell Trubisky. I feel like 453 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna bring them back to a one or two 454 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: year deal and go, Okay, we're gonna play the style 455 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: of football we played here the last five or six 456 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: weeks of the year. But now we're gonna grow that 457 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: as far as the Rolodex plays that can come off 458 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: all of attacks. Stop trying to be the Kansas City 459 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: Chiefs in the in Patrick Mahomes. That's not gonna happen 460 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: in Chicago. That's not who you are. So yeah, they 461 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: gotta go all in on this offensive approach. But I 462 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm one that I look at it and 463 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: just go the Bears are closer to the top than 464 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: the bottom, and if they can guarantee me they're gonna 465 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: get some awesome slam dunk franchise quarterback, then okay, you 466 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: make the move. But if we're gonna go with like, oh, 467 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna bringing Nick Foles in and maybe he can 468 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: beat the guy, then don't waste your time. Go with 469 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: Mitchell Rubisky. If Matthew Stafford's available, okay, then maybe you 470 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: do think about that, But I would expect to set 471 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: Rbisky Back's Chris Simms on loan from NBC Sports. If 472 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: you were going to recede right now, is anything changed 473 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: in the NFC and AFC for you heading into the 474 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: next round of the play? Oh that's a good question. 475 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: Let me see here. As I just look at that, 476 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think this is what I would 477 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: probably look at right now. I don't think anything's changed 478 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: for me in the NFC. I think that I would 479 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: probably say, yeah, I think I would go Green Bay, 480 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: the Saints, the Bucks right there on the edge of 481 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: those guys and the Rams right there and a close 482 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: one as well. But in the AFC, you know, Kansas 483 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: City's the king. But that Bills Baltimore Ravens for number 484 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: two seed or number two spot in the AFC hierarchy 485 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: right now. I think that's very close. I think that's 486 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: a scary matchup for Buffalo for this week. You know, 487 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: we saw what that Colts offensive line did to that 488 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: Bill's defense. The Colts outplayed the Buffalo Bills. The Bills 489 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: just had the best player on the field and Josh Allen, 490 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: and that's why they overcame it. But I would be 491 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: worried about that running tack in Lamar Jackson first Buffalo 492 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: this week. We've talked about this before. I applaud Cleveland 493 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: for finally understanding who they are, and I said, if 494 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: Stefanski was on the sidelines, I would have picked them 495 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: to beat Pittsburgh. Well, as it turned out, they didn't 496 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: need him on the sidelines. The identity that they have, 497 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: can that identity beat Kansas City. In Kansas City, I 498 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: think it can give them a tough time. I don't 499 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: know if their defense is good enough to pull through 500 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: against Kansas City. I do think that their offense could 501 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: be good enough to where they can maybe do what 502 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: we saw the Colts due to the Buffalo Bills the 503 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: other day. Run the ball, keep their offense on the field, 504 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: run out the clock, keep Mahomes next to the gatorade 505 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: bottles and everything like that, and you got a chance 506 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: to make the game interesting, certainly. But I think it 507 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: would worry me is more that Brown's defense, and I 508 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: know they're going to be healthy with some guys being back, 509 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: but it's not a very good unit, and a week 510 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: off with Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes, I think that 511 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: could be scary. What would you do with Deshaun Watson 512 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: if you were the GM of the Tech Well, I 513 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 1: would never give the DeShawn Watson away for less than anything. 514 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: Just absolutely jaw dropping, unbelievable. I can't say no to 515 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: that trade offer. Dan. The biggest, like perplexing thing to me. 516 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson, no doubt, one of the five best quarterbacks 517 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: in the game. You told him going into this process 518 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 1: you were gonna let him have a say or at 519 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: least be in the conversation. And then we get to 520 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: this moment and the guy that he kind of vouched 521 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: for and Eric b Enemy, you don't even interview him. 522 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say to Houston other 523 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: than that you're just you're stupid. I don't know what 524 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: you interview the guy just to say to your quarterback, 525 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: who's the star or your team, Hey, we interviewed the 526 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: guy you talked about. Hey it didn't work out, we know, 527 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, blah blah blah. But you do that 528 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: for just that element alone. And that's what I don't understand. 529 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: And they're in a weird spot down there right now. 530 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: Would you trade him to Miami for two and let's 531 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: say you get a couple of first round draft picks, 532 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: um it would have to be a lot of first 533 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: round draft picks, it would be. And I don't know 534 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: if I would do that right now. I don't know 535 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: because to me this it's still up in the air. 536 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: For what Tuah is. You know, I'm not sold on 537 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: Tua is definitely a franchise, Like we got our guy 538 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: for ten years. I'm not sure about that yet. I 539 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: don't mean disrespect to him. I'm rooting for him, but 540 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: I think we all saw the same thing at the 541 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: end of the year as a little concerning and I'm 542 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: not sure I'm ready to stamp it and just go 543 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: I like what I saw and he's the guy for 544 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: the future. Thank you, Chris. As always, we appreciate your time. 545 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: We love that you wrap up the weekend and your 546 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: own style there. Thanks for joining us. Tell Florio we 547 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: said alone, I will said say hi to the guys. 548 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: Be good Dan. That's Chris Sims. He is one of 549 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: the stars of Pro Football Talk Live on Peacock. Be 550 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: sure to catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick 551 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: Show week days at nine am Eastern six am sip 552 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: it on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeart Radio app. 553 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: I was reading Ed Bouchett's column in the he covers 554 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: the Steelers. He's been covering the Steelers since nineteen eighty five, 555 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: I believe, and his column with the Athletic summing up 556 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: last night. Here is the last line of his column. 557 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: It was more than the end of a season. It 558 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: might be the end of an era, Ed Bouchette joins us, 559 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: Ed was at the end of an era for Ben 560 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger and the Steelers. Well, we're gonna probably find out 561 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: rather quickly, Dan. He's due a fifteen million roster bonus 562 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: in the middle of March, and they're going to have 563 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: to decide whether to pay that, whether to wrap it 564 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: into an extension, if you will somehow, or if he retires. 565 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: I don't think you'll see him play anywhere else. He 566 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: doesn't want to. But they have a massive problem with 567 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 1: the salary cap. They only have thirty four players under contracts, 568 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: some of their better guys or free agents. This does 569 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: not look like a team that's going to contend this 570 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: next season. And if you're Ben Roethlisberger, why would you 571 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: want to play if you can't contend? What happened after 572 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: going eleven? And oh you know, I still haven't gotten 573 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: a straight answer why they went to this short passing game, 574 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: But it was working. He got rid of the ball, 575 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: everybody knows, faster than anybody in the league, after spending 576 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 1: most of his career holding on to it longer than 577 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: anyone in the league. And then defense is caught up 578 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: to him. They started ganging around the line of scrimmage. 579 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, their running game was ineffective. They 580 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: were batting down Ben's passes at the line because they 581 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: knew they couldn't get to them in a sack, and 582 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they did not adjust to throwing it 583 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: deeper until late late late When did you know that 584 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: the Steelers were in trouble last night? How about the 585 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: first snap of the game that was bad, But you 586 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: know they have the kind of firepower to overcome that, 587 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: and we saw that in the second half. And then 588 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: Ben just did not look good at all for most 589 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: of that first half. He was not only throwing three interceptions, 590 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: he was throwing overthrowing guys, throwing wide behind them on 591 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: slants that were open. I mean, he had some receivers open, 592 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: he just didn't hit him. And why there was such 593 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: a difference in the second half with his accuracy, I 594 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: don't know. But we've seen a lot of that this 595 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: year Dan, where he's had a terrible half one or 596 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: the other and then a big Ben half the next one. 597 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: The Brown's going to be in the market for a 598 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: high end quarterback, are they are? They are your Steelers? 599 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: I should say, are they going to be going into 600 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: this draft or are they going to go into the 601 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: offseason thinking, you know, can we kick the tires on 602 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford or maybe one of the younger quarterbacks, Sam 603 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: Darnold if he would be available, or somebody in the draft. 604 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: What do you think the philosophy is going to be. 605 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: I think it would be if Ben retires, I think 606 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: they would just go with Mason Rudolph. And if there 607 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: would be a quarterback available in the first round in 608 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: the twenties where they're going to be drafting that they like, 609 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: they could take them. But I don't see that happening, Dan, 610 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: I think you're looking at twenty twenty two before they 611 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: get another quarterback. They're not going to trade for one 612 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: of those guys. First of all, they need the draft 613 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,479 Speaker 1: capital to rebuild their team. And why would you bring 614 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: a guy like Darnold in who's going to be on 615 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: the last year of his contract anyway. So, and they're 616 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: not going to sign a free agent. They don't have 617 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: the money. They're gonna be twenty million right now. They're 618 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: projected to be twenty million over the cap with only 619 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: thirty four players under contract. Assess the Cleveland Browns with 620 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: what you saw last night that maybe what you didn't 621 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: or did see earlier in the season with the Cleveland Browns, Well, 622 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: I saw some toughness, some moxie. They were facing all 623 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: kinds of dilemmas without their head coach, without both line coaches, 624 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: and then they're losing offensive lineman. They didn't have their 625 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: best cornerback, they didn't have their number three cornerback, and 626 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: they came in here and just cleaned up the Dan. 627 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 1: They showed me a lot, and so did the quarterback. Yeah, 628 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: and I talked about this a couple of times already today, 629 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: of finding your identity, like knowing who you are. Cleveland 630 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: knew and knows who they are. I don't think Pittsburgh 631 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: knows or knew who they were last night. They've been 632 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: two different teams Dan. They were eleven and old team, 633 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: and then they finished one in five and they barely 634 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: beat some of those teams that they won eleven and 635 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: Old Dallas Cowboys. That was a terrible game for them, 636 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: the ravage Baltimore Ravens, you know, missing them half their team, 637 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: They barely beat them. They had to come back to 638 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 1: beat the Colts their only victory in our last six games, 639 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: and a big comeback from seventeen down. I think that 640 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: game actually gave them hope. But they have some really 641 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: tough decisions, and I don't know that they're going to 642 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: be very many good ones coming up. I know it's 643 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: always a delicate situation when you're dealing with Hall of famers, 644 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: and you know, like Drew Brees with the Saints, you know, 645 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: Sean Payton really want him back or I kind of 646 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: publicly want him back. How did the Steelers, if they 647 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: want to give the message to Ben, deliver that message 648 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: in a professional, polite, respectable way that they don't want 649 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: him back. You know, they couldn't do that with Troy 650 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 1: Paul a model that was that was getting kind of ugly. 651 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: He almost left to go to another team, but he 652 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: finally retired. Ben I think will realize it on his own. 653 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: And I think what they'll do is tell them way 654 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: out the rebuilding they're going to have to go through, 655 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: and do you want to go through this with us? 656 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: How do you think? Why would he want to? I mean, 657 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: he he's made enough money. He's not coming back to 658 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: He has nineteen million on the table extra to be made. 659 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: He's a forty one million cap hit. He would be 660 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: twenty two million if he retired cap hit, but he 661 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: has nineteen million he could make. I don't think that's 662 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: his motivation. He wants to win. He desperately wanted to 663 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: win another super Bowl and it doesn't look like that's 664 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: going to happen. And I don't see him going anywhere else. 665 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: Then football is going to be on TVs in Pittsburgh 666 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: this weekend. You know, in the past, once the season 667 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: ended abruptly in the playoffs, people lose interest. But this 668 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: is a football town. I think you'll see them. I 669 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: think you'll see a lot of ratings coming out of 670 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh for the NFL. Is there a more painful game 671 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: in your history of covering the Steelers than Oh? Yeah, Dan, 672 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned I've been for a long time. I remember 673 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: the ninety four AFC title game when they were like 674 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 1: ten point favorites to beat San Diego and go to 675 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and they were. They lost. That was 676 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: the worst. That was absolutely the worst. And their most 677 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: recent loss before this one of twenty seventeen at home 678 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville after they went thirteen and three, and by 679 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: the way, that game was forty five to forty two. 680 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: They've given up a lot of points in these last 681 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: two playoff games, both at home. Ed, thanks for getting up. 682 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: We appreciate it and enjoy the offseason, all right, Dan, 683 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: thank you. That's Ed Bouchett. He's been covering the team, 684 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: as I mentioned, and he did. He's been covering them 685 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: for a long time nineteen eighty five. He covers the 686 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: Steelers for The Athletic. Thanks for listening to The Dan 687 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every 688 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 1: weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific 689 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on 690 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on 691 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: the Peacock app spring In. The Former NFL quarterback star 692 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: from Notre Dame, Brady Quinn works for Fox Sports or 693 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 1: college football analyst. How did you celebrate the Cleveland Browns 694 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: win last night? Brady? Well, it's pretty late. I've got 695 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: three little girls, so usually we're exhausted by it, but 696 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: I was excited about it. I actually think my wife's 697 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: smut at me this morning. I kept her up, made 698 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: sure she understood the historical significance of the Browns winning 699 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: that playoff game, and I've been in the dog house 700 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: ever since she woke up this morning. Okay, but explain 701 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: that to people, your former first round pick with this franchise. 702 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: It feels like once you're a Brown, you're always going 703 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 1: to be a Cleveland Brown the rest of your life, 704 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 1: no matter if you play for another team. Well, and 705 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: part of it too for me is I grew up 706 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: in a northwest suburb of Columbus, and so I rooted 707 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: for all the Cleveland teams growing up, and so getting 708 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: drafted there was a dream come true. But even afterwards, 709 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: you know, things didn't work out the way I wanted 710 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: to or wish they could have. But I've still remained 711 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: a fan of the team, and obviously I can relate 712 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: to that fan base. I think the struggle when the 713 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: team left and moved to Baltimore and then came back 714 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: for a lot of fans, You know, a lot of 715 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: people in Cleveland, it's not the same team as far 716 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: as what left. And so now we've finally gotten to 717 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: a position where I feel like from an organizational standpoint, 718 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: they're at a different point. They found a head coach 719 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: that I know it's only one year, but I think 720 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 1: anyone would be it'd be hard to argue that this 721 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: team isn't heading in the right direction. Obviously, Baker's playing 722 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,919 Speaker 1: some of his best football, and really the team's playing 723 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 1: inspired and that's just something that you know, you didn't 724 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: see consistently over the course of really the last two decades. 725 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: How do the Browns beat the Chiefs? Well, I think 726 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: the biggest thing you've got to do, especially with an 727 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 1: offense that can score the way they do, is you've 728 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: got to find a way of one playing really good 729 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: red zone defense. You gotta figure out what you can't 730 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: just give up the big play for a touchdown. You 731 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: got to go to that short and condensed portion of 732 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: the field and figure out a way of getting off 733 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: forcing field goals. If you can do that, and then 734 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: on the other side, you know, I think you can 735 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: make the case that, yeah, you can try to eat 736 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: up the clock and win the time of possession. We 737 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,919 Speaker 1: saw the Colts try to do that this past week 738 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 1: and versus the Bills, but in the end it's not 739 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: gonna win because if the Bills have the ball last, 740 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: they're gonna end up winning the football game or often 741 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: not be able to put up enough points once they 742 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: do find the rhythm. So I think you almost have 743 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: to look at what the Raiders did this year when 744 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 1: they beat the Chiefs. You've got to be able to 745 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: go toe for toe, blow for blow with them, and 746 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: you've got to be able to stretch the field, run 747 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: the football, make all those big plays too, and not 748 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: be scared offensively to take some chances. So to me, 749 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: it just comes down to eliminated big plays, red zone defense, 750 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 1: and offensively, you know, taking some risks, taking some chances, 751 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: trying to throw all you can at the cancer. The 752 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: Chiefs defense, which has improved this year compared to what 753 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: they were last year. We'll talk about the National Title 754 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 1: game here a moment. I'm curious because you've got Breeze 755 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: and Brady, and you've got Rogers, you got Roethlisberger. I 756 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: don't know if a team is more apt to make 757 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: a decision one year early than one year late when 758 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: it comes to these older quarterbacks, because everybody wants to 759 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: have their Mahomes or Deshaun Watson or Josh Allen, Joe 760 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: Burrow justin Herbert, Like, there's so many of these great 761 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: talented young players coming out that I don't know if 762 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm Indie that I go, let me have Philip Rivers 763 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: again or Pittsburgh and let me have been Breeze in 764 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 1: New Orleans. Brady obviously will be back if he wants 765 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: to be back. But can you see that philosophy in 766 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: the NFL? Well, yeah, I could see the philosophy. I mean, 767 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: I think from an economical standpoint, especially as you're look 768 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: into next year not necessarily knowing what the cap is 769 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: going to be. I mean, the floor we know is 770 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: what one hundred and seventy five million. It could be 771 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: a little bit higher than that. We'll have to wait 772 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: and see. But from an economical standpoint, you can understand 773 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: why they maybe want to get younger and cheaper. But 774 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 1: there's a big risk in that, right I mean, is 775 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: your fan base going to be okay with having to 776 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 1: go through a rebuilding process potentially and being patient with 777 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: that quarterback position. I do think the one thing though 778 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: that you look at now with quarterbacks coming into the league, 779 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: and it was pretty apparent that Tampa Bay Bucks Washington 780 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: football team game is the ability for a quarterback with 781 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 1: mobility to impact a game. I mean that is now 782 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: becoming a must for and requirement for any quarterback coming 783 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: into the NFL right now. Is the ability to keep 784 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: the football and run a pick a few up a 785 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: few first downs and challenge the defense to have to situationally, 786 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: at a minimum, put someone out there who is responsible 787 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: for them. And we saw Taylor Henke be able to 788 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: kind of keep with the Washington football team in that 789 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: game in part because of his athleticism. So when you're 790 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: talking about the Rivers, the Roethlisbergers, the Pradies, the Prize 791 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: none of these are those are the older age drop 792 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 1: back put a typical you know, drop back quarterbacks. You 793 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 1: don't see that so much anymore coming in the NFL. 794 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 1: So I think if you're gonna make that change, yes, 795 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: part of it's economical, but the other thing is a 796 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: little bit schematic too, with the type of players that 797 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,399 Speaker 1: are now coming into the NFL. E's Brady Quinn working 798 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: for Fox Sports, their college football analyst. Tonight's national title 799 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: game will come down too. Well, it's gonna come down 800 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: to whether or not Ohio State can limit the amount 801 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: of big plays that this Alabama offense can create. And 802 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: we saw that throughout the course of the season, but 803 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: in particular in the semifinal game vers SMI Alma Mater. 804 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: And then on the flip side, I think Justin Fields 805 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: has to have a similar game to what he had 806 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: in the semi final game, which was his best game 807 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: as a college quarterback. So if he can go toe 808 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: for toe or a blow for blow like I mentioned earlier, 809 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: in the NFL games, but if he can do that 810 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: versus this Alabama offense. I think they stand a chance. 811 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 1: But the biggest question mark right now, Dan is you know, 812 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 1: how big of an impact COVID will have potentially on 813 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: the D line and how healthy Justin Fields is going 814 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: to be with that rib injury that he's dealing with. 815 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: What is Alabama's weakness? To me, I think it's their defense, 816 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: you know, I think we saw glimpses of that this year, 817 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: and you've even heard their head coach Nick Saban admitted 818 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: that this is not, you know, a game anymore that's 819 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: dominated by you know, great defense being able to stop 820 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: great offenses. You know, at times they can, and I 821 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: think they've even had to kind of adapt to you know, 822 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: bend but don't break at times, you know, philosophy and 823 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: how they're playing defensively. I mean, Pat Surtan's going to 824 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: take away one wide receiver for Ohio State, but there's 825 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: plays to be made on the other side of the 826 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: field versus the secondary. For Alabama, I don't think they 827 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: have you know, as good of an edge rusher either. 828 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: So to me, if you're looking at you know the 829 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: biggest difference right now, I think for Obama it's it's 830 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: that their defense isn't what we're accustomed to seeing. And 831 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: maybe you want to say that's a product of their 832 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: offense being so explosive, but for me, I think it's 833 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 1: just more of the changing of times with college football. 834 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: The offense has the advantage. Eventually the defense will adjust, 835 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: but we just haven't seen that of late. Which running 836 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: back has to have the bigger game? Naji Harris or 837 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: trace sermon, Tray sermon. I trace sermon just just because 838 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 1: I think you look at what again, not knowing the 839 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 1: injury to fields, but you look at how important it 840 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: is for the Io State offense to have balance. That 841 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 1: to me is crucial in this game because I do 842 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: think Certan can take away Chris o'lave which basically leaves 843 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: Garret Wilson and some other targets too. But it's a 844 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on Gary Wilson to be able to 845 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: carry that. And Olavey missed the Big Ten championship game 846 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 1: versus Northwestern and how it fields playing that one. So 847 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 1: that's a concern for me. I mean, this Pat sur 848 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 1: Tan kid, he doesn't get enough credit. You know that 849 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: this is gonna be one of the top prospects taking 850 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: the next year's draft and talking to the Notre game 851 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: coaching staff before the semi final game, they're like, if 852 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: we throw with this kid, it's a mistake. Okay, Like 853 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: but Ian Book made a mistake if they throw his way, 854 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: and they did once and it would have been interception 855 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: if Curtang got his foot in bounds, but he didn't. 856 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: So I think you've got to have that balance. You've 857 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: got to have the ability to run the football and 858 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 1: also to potentially give their defense a bit of a 859 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 1: break and not have to have them out on the 860 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 1: field all the time trying to cover. You know, the 861 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner in Smith and if Waddle plays, but 862 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: all the other playmakers they had with Naja Harris too 863 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 1: in the backfield. Isn't it amazing that Waddle was considered 864 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,919 Speaker 1: the better prospect coming into this season. DeVante Smith wins 865 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 1: the Heisman? Yeah, I mean, and give him credit for 866 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: the way he steps up when when Waddle went down. 867 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: You know a lot of guys sometimes maybe fade in 868 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: that or that they can't handle the fact that they're 869 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: seeing the best cornerback they're seeing maybe more cloud coverage 870 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 1: or bracket coverage at times. Begin going back that semifinal game, 871 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: versus Notre Dame. Talking as some of the coaches with 872 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 1: that staff, you know, one of the things that was 873 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: mentioned to me was you don't realize how fast he 874 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: is until you get out there on the field because 875 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: he's this smooth, long strider and you think you've got 876 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: a good angle on him, and next thing you know, 877 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: he slides up the sidelines or he's running across the 878 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: field and you end up missing a tackle or you 879 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: end up not even be able to get a hand 880 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: on him. So that's gonna be the challenge for Ohio State. 881 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: And look, they've got talented wide receivers who have speed, 882 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,399 Speaker 1: but they don't move the same way as that slim 883 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 1: repress they call him, and DeVante Smith and the way 884 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: he kind of slides around and smoothly gets yards after 885 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 1: the catch. So you know, and that's the thing for 886 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: Ohio States defense. You know, Dan, when you're watching the 887 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: film from the Clemson game, I thought they missed Tony 888 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 1: Elliott a lot because there was times when they had 889 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,359 Speaker 1: the ten or twenty yard range completion all game long. 890 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: Ohio State was willing to concede that, but whether it 891 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: was Brennan Street or Dabo Sweeney, they didn't want to 892 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,959 Speaker 1: adapt or change that game plan to allow Trevor Lawrence 893 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: just to pick them apart on the sidelines to the outside. 894 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: That kind of plays the Mac Jones wheelhouse. And this 895 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: is the worst past defense we've ever seen in the 896 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: National Championship game in the college football playoff. Air give 897 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 1: him about two hundred and eighty plus yards a game, 898 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be tough with this Buckeye secondary is 899 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,800 Speaker 1: to stop Alabama's passing a sack. I remind people a 900 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: lot of times that Usain Bolt might be the fastest 901 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 1: man in the history of mankind, but he didn't have 902 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 1: top end speed for the first sixty yards. For sixty meters, 903 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:19,320 Speaker 1: DeVante Smith, DeVante Smith would probably beat Usain Bolt in 904 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: a sixty yard dash in my opinion, like the ability 905 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 1: to get to a top end speed, because Bolt, once 906 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 1: he got to sixty, if you weren't ahead of him, 907 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: then you weren't going to beat him. And I know 908 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 1: that that's you know Joey Galloway, you know an Ohio Stagg. 909 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 1: There's certain guys who have top end speed like Tyreek Hill, right, 910 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, to me, if he's with Usain Bolt would 911 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: beat him. For the first sixty meters. He wouldn't beat 912 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: him for a hundred, but he beat him for sixty. 913 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: There these receivers who get you look at me like 914 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm crazy. You think you just said you Satan Bolt, 915 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: who may be the fastest human being in my lifetime. 916 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: And I don't know if I'm gonna go signe with that. 917 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: I understand where you're saying. He's a taller, longer strider, 918 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,000 Speaker 1: you know Waddle for example. One of the reasons why 919 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: he's you know, a better prospect if you will, is 920 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 1: because he gets zero to one hundred. How about this, 921 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: DeVante Smith is a better receiver than you seen Bolt. 922 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,919 Speaker 1: Would you agree with me on this? Yeah, but you've 923 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,359 Speaker 1: been around guys who have great speed, but they're guys 924 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 1: who have quick like they get to their top gear 925 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 1: quicker than the other guy does. And DeVante Smith that's 926 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: the difference. Like when he gets it out on the 927 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 1: side and you go, okay, you got him, and then 928 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: he has that next gear that very few players have 929 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: in all the sports. Well, and that's why I'm always 930 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, wondering, especially like Sean Wade for example, who's 931 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: the best cornerback at Ohio State? And you didn't see 932 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,399 Speaker 1: them do this much in the semifinal game, and they've 933 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,760 Speaker 1: kind of limited how much press man to man coverage 934 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 1: they play. But usually when you've got a guy who's 935 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,720 Speaker 1: like a longer sider like you're talking about, and doesn't 936 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: get zero to a one hundred, you know in a 937 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: few steps, you'd like to get some hands on him 938 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage, just for up the timing 939 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 1: and see if you can stop him before you ever 940 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 1: get started, right, And you don't see that quite as much. 941 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: And again, go back to the semifinal game. Watch something 942 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 1: that's eight. You'll see them playing eight ten yards off 943 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 1: and willing to concede some of those passes in front 944 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 1: of them as long as they don't give up a 945 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 1: big play. I don't know that that's a recipe for 946 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,800 Speaker 1: success versus Alabama and DeVante Smith, because once he gets going, 947 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 1: it's not only the fact that he's got that second gear. 948 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: He's so smooth in and out of his cuts. You know, 949 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: when he wants to set up a double move, he 950 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: can really sell it because of just the way he's 951 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,839 Speaker 1: able to cut while still having that long stride that gate, 952 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: but then get back up the full speed or kicking 953 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: in that second gear. As you're talking about, did Ohio 954 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: State off for your scholarship? They did? Okay, yeah, but 955 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 1: why'd you pass? Oh geez, There's there's a number of reasons. 956 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: You know, I thought Notre Dame and when Michigan's other 957 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: school I was looking at, you know, Notre Dame is 958 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: the best fit for me. One thing that always kind 959 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: of lead it in the back of my mind in 960 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: looking at all three schools, was, you know, who was 961 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 1: the best NFL quarterback to have come from each school? 962 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: And obviously Michigan's got a rich history, arguably the greatest 963 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: of all time. And Tom Brady and there's a lot 964 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 1: of others. Notre Dame you can throw that into that 965 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: category with Joe Montana and thisman and Meyern, so many 966 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: others Ohio State. You know, I would probably say arch Sleister. 967 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure who else you're throw into 968 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 1: that category. But that was something that was always going 969 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 1: on in the back of my mind, outside of the 970 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: fact that you know, it was a smaller school academically 971 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: at fit Moore. What I was looking to get out 972 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 1: of the education? Could you have taken the heat though 973 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:34,359 Speaker 1: Brady coming from Columbus, Ohio going to Michigan. Well, Bo 974 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 1: Schembeckler asked me that question. I was with my dad 975 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,839 Speaker 1: on a recruiting visit and the first thing he said, 976 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: when I think it was on me, Tom Herman was 977 00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: it was a linebacker coach at the time. He was 978 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,800 Speaker 1: my error recruiter. He introduced my father and I and 979 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,359 Speaker 1: he said the at least from Columbus, Ohio, and he's 980 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: looking to come into Michigan. And Bo Schembecker looks at 981 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,919 Speaker 1: me and says, are you ready to go in there 982 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 1: and kick those Buckey's ass? And my dad My dad 983 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: was done. He was like, you're on the Michigan and 984 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, let's hold on for a second. 985 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,959 Speaker 1: So that was one of the core stories and moments 986 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: I got to share with my dad along those recruiting visits. 987 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: But Notre Dame gave you a nicer car. She ended 988 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 1: up at South Bend. I wish that was the case. 989 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 1: You know, you hear about that stuff all the time. 990 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: Did you were you offered and let me will take 991 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 1: away any school names? Yeah, what was the best thing 992 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 1: you were offered? I wasn't. I wasn't offered anything. You know, 993 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,360 Speaker 1: I don't know that I look like the type of 994 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 1: guy that you know and based on my family, you know, 995 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 1: a hard working middle class fan like I don't know 996 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 1: if they were walking into our household saying like, hey, 997 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 1: what do you need? And plus like my parents would 998 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 1: have never accepted that, you know, I was. I was 999 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,360 Speaker 1: someone who had a job throughout the course of my 1000 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,799 Speaker 1: time and Notre Dame. I worked at the Cadom Center 1001 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: there on campus and the Office of News and Information 1002 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,799 Speaker 1: in the Golden Dome. Just to have a little extra 1003 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 1: grocery money, gas money, and and just a little money 1004 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 1: to get around. I used to take the lineman to 1005 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 1: this Italian restaurant that and all you can eat buffet 1006 00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: on the south side of town, and I think it 1007 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: was like eight bucks up and we have basically on 1008 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: Thursday nights go watch football and see you can eat 1009 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 1: the most chicken parm colors. Oh, they lost money on 1010 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: you guys when you guys came in All you could 1011 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: eat for eight dollars of pop. I was out eating 1012 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 1: Ryan Harris. You can ask Ryan Harris. He used to 1013 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: call me a snake for basically waiting all day to 1014 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:23,320 Speaker 1: eat dinner. Just to outheat him that night. Great to 1015 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,839 Speaker 1: talk to you, have fun tonight. We appreciate your time. 1016 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,359 Speaker 1: It's always Brady, always a pleasure. Guys, have a great day. 1017 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 1: That's Brady Quinn, former Cleveland Brown's quarterback. Fox Sports Radio 1018 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,319 Speaker 1: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch 1019 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 1: all of our shows at foxsports Radio dot com and 1020 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: within the iHeartRadio app search f SR to listen live.