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Speaker 3: I learned a couple of things. I learned the discipline

434
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 3: of time. I learned also she need playing when she

435
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 3: says something. But as I was, and I have nothing

436
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 3: to do with this coming out, I have this pad

437
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 3: caller remarkable. I learned that unlike when we type, when

438
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 3: we go back to writing, there is something that connects

439
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 3: our brain to our arm, to our hand, and it

440
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 3: becomes goal setting. And as a five year old who

441
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 3: didn't have a coach or a professional skill necessarily who

442
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 3: wrote I'm going to be an NBA player, most likely

443
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 3: you're a person who when you were writing about active faith,

444
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna take three hours of this.

445
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 3: I want to go to discourse. I'm gonna go to

446
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: discourse something this shot. You know, a lot of people

447
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 3: don't realize the power of goal setting. Now by the

448
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 3: way everybody shows they know it can work against you. Lanny,

449
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 3: I don't even have to ask you about how many

450
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 3: of the people that we hope to protect us as

451
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 3: we were growing up told us we'd be dinner in

452
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 3: jail by twenty one and told most of our community that,

453
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,959
Speaker 3: and that goal was set in their mind because they

454
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 3: heard it all the time. We've seen people go, yo,

455
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 3: you know we out here in these streets and you

456
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: know we don't give it. Why don't you give that

457
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 3: because somebody told you you shouldn't care right and you

458
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 3: mentally programming, or somebody I'm going to be an abusive relationship,

459
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: or I'm not good enough. So this is a powerful moment.

460
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 3: But I think the writing aspect is something I never

461
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: brought up on other podcasts. I think because I didn't

462
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 3: think about it until that moment last night, and then

463
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 3: you reinforced that moment right there.

464
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: Wow, wow, and something else that you just said that

465
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: it's also very powerful, and it's so much ingrained into

466
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: the brand of actively black. Is you see the tagline

467
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: is there's greatness in our DNA. That's the tagline for

468
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 1: actively Black. And so when I tell people this isn't

469
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: really even about the clothes, they laugh at me because

470
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: they're like, what do you mean, Like the time that

471
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: you take, the to the the attention to detail, the quality. Yes,

472
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: all of that, all of that is dope, right, But

473
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: I want to leave something imprinted in the minds of

474
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 1: of the supporters, of the tribe, of the people who

475
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: encounter the brand. There's greatness in our DNA because once

476
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: you change the way you start thinking, then that changes

477
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: the way that you act in everything that you do.

478
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: So then if you know, man, there's greatness inside of me,

479
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: There's there's greatness in the people who came before me,

480
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: and there's and I can and I can pass on

481
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: greatness to those who come after me. You start acting different,

482
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: you start doing things differently, you know what I mean,

483
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,719
Speaker 1: because you're you're you're you're you're acting out of greatness.

484
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 2: You're not acting out of the lack. You're not acting

485
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: out of what has been done to you.

486
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: You're not acting out of you know, what has been

487
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 1: told to you that may have been been negative and and.

488
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 2: So that's the power of.

489
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: Actively black that I believe is, Yeah, I got all

490
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: these people that are wearing the clothes, but then also

491
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: subconsciously they're being fed with this message there's greatness in

492
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: their DNA.

493
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 3: So yeah, let me ask you something else. Because I

494
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 3: was a very famous person that a lot of us know.

495
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 3: I was. I was outside someplace and I was wearing

496
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 3: the brand and he you know, yo, hey, damn it

497
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 3: happened to be He's not black? Could I wear that brand?

498
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: And I said, well, why not? I wear? I wear

499
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 3: Louis Vuitton, I wear brands from Italy and various the thing.

500
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 3: He said, I know, but that's not a country and

501
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, well, don't's think about it. I don't

502
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: know what country I came from. M I said, so

503
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,959
Speaker 3: I can't necessarily say there's fifty countries in Africa. Are

504
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 3: varius of the things. I don't know. What do you

505
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 3: want me to wear? Ghana? I don't know if I

506
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 3: came from there. I don't know where we can from. However,

507
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: I know the country is black, and I know a

508
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: lot of people who are not black wear it the

509
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: same word. You know, they because they feel they're supporting something,

510
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 3: and it's not that you know, people love to know

511
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 3: when you're supporting something of whatever you are. I love

512
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: to walk into a beautiful Italian restaurant. It could be

513
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 3: a hole in the wall. I want to hear Frank Sinatra.

514
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 3: I want to see all the beautiful you know, you

515
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 3: know everything. I want to be there. Yes, it got

516
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: nothing to do with me saying how dare you be Italian?

517
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 3: What's wrong with you? Right? You know? So what do

518
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: you say? Tell us about the people that you found

519
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: that said I'm so happy that that's what you're doing

520
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 3: for you and us in general, meaning yes, the country

521
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 3: of the world.

522
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: Yes.

523
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: The serendipity on this podcast is absolutely credible. At the

524
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: end of our New York Fashion Week show, I literally

525
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: got on the mic to speak to this point exactly,

526
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 1: and the fact that you brought up an Italian restaurant

527
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: when I've seen a clip. You're gonna trip out because

528
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: I said, I can't think of a time where we

529
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: have ever stopped in front of a Mexican restaurant or

530
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: an Italian restaurant and said I'm not Mexican, I can't

531
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: eat there, or I'm not Italian, i can't eat there. Right,

532
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: that never crosses anybody's mind. You go there and they're

533
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: purposely embracing their culture, their food, and you're going to

534
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: enjoy somebody else's culture and their food and there's never

535
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: issue with it. So why is there an issue here

536
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: for me? Every Like I said, everybody is welcome to

537
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: wear actively Black. If you support the fact that we

538
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: are uplifting and reinvesting back into the black community, you're welcome.

539
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: And you don't have to be black to support that initiative.

540
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: And we have actively black customers that are white, Asian, Hispanic.

541
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: The amount of people that I've seen weren't actively black

542
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: that are not black. It's really really dope to me,

543
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: and it gives me hope because it means even though

544
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: that you know, we're in a time that there's so

545
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: much division happening, there are still people who have enough

546
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: love in their heart, have enough care in their heart,

547
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: have enough empathy in their heart that they're like, you

548
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: know what, I want to support this, this this mission,

549
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: this message, this initiative, even though I'm not Black, and

550
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: so yeah, I never understood why when it comes to

551
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: our culture, there's a caveat there when.

552
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 3: We well, let me, let me let me ask let

553
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: me ask you a difficult question that maybe I may

554
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 3: get beat up or because what I found is why

555
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 3: I launched, so whin It's a big world, a lot

556
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: of people, so they cold fool or whatever it is, right,

557
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: it was forth bias is a black culture. But do

558
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: you find that because this is what happened to me.

559
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: I think it was a Christmas for a holiday. Gave

560
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: everybody for who would take we had launched with the kids,

561
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 3: everybody from my office. I gave it to them, my office,

562
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: the United Nations, and I had a lot of people

563
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: who are not African American come back and say I

564
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: got to give it back to because my children harassed

565
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: in school. Now they were harassed in school by African

566
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: Americans who felt that the brand was only theirs and

567
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 3: that this person didn't belong. Now I can say that

568
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: at that time it wasn't social media.

569
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: Yep.

570
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: I had the Burial Boys, I used to dress MC shirts,

571
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 3: I dressed the BC Boys, A dressed everybody. But with

572
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: the limited yeah, with the limited yeah, limited information, maybe

573
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 3: they thought that it was only that. And then there

574
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 3: was just also this pride to hey man, stop wearing it,

575
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: that's ours. I can see that too happening. Yeah, do

576
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: you think sometimes do you think sometimes people feel uncomfortable

577
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: even though they want to support it because maybe we

578
00:29:54,680 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 3: are like we don't have much and our being overprotective

579
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: about it doesn't realize that some of us are hurting

580
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 3: the brand by loving it so much that we feel

581
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 3: that it's not somebody else's right, it's to me.

582
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: It's a trauma response, right, It's a trauma response because

583
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: if we look at the reality of society of the world,

584
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: colonialism has happened. It did happen, you know, I mean

585
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: it has happened. When you're you know, our culture, Native

586
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: American culture. There are different cultures that have literally been

587
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: robbed of their lands, their their music, their customs. It

588
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: has happened, right, So I understand that, I understand the

589
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: trauma and why when we do have something that's finally

590
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: our own, we grasp onto it.

591
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: I understand why. I understand why. I understand why.

592
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: But you said something earlier that I've had to tell

593
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: some of our black supporters who have been upset about

594
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: other people wearing our stuff.

595
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: It's like the CEO of LVMH is now the wealthiest.

596
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: Man in the world, right, when I think about how

597
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: many Black people by Louis Vautan, by Gucci, by all

598
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: of these brands that are not owned by us, right,

599
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: we are contributing to the wealth of other people. Fashion Ova,

600
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: that founder just bought one hundred and fifty million dollar

601
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: house here in la you know what I mean. And

602
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: I have to think that hip hop culture, black culture,

603
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: black consumerism helps add to his to his network in

604
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: his wealth. So why is it that we've been okay

605
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: with buying other people's stuff and making their founders and

606
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: their CEOs wealthy, but now we've got a problem with

607
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: other people buying our stuff. Because here's the thing, that

608
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: money that they spend helps increase how we can give

609
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: back to the Black community. So regardless of who it

610
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: comes from, our mission is still the same. My mission

611
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: never changes to uplift and reinvest back into the Black community.

612
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: So if all of these white people, Asian people and

613
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: Spanis people, if they want to buy actively black, I

614
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: welcome them, because, you know what, that further empowers our

615
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: mission and our goal and what we're trying to do.

616
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: It doesn't change who we are.

617
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: And I think that's just part of the part of

618
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: the education that we have to do for our own

619
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,239
Speaker 1: people to help them understand that. I don't think that

620
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: it comes from a malicious place. I think it just

621
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: does come from a place of it's so very rare

622
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: that we have something to call our own that when

623
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: we finally do have our own, it's like, no, this

624
00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: is ours, you know.

625
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: And I think that's our job today to tell our

626
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: other people who are very very pro pro black but

627
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: never anti anything else, to be very intentional to share

628
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: that message you because if I look at two brands

629
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: and one I may get criticism for, then why right,

630
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go over here, right, and I'm gonna be celebrated.

631
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: Oh man, look at that and you Gucci right, you know.

632
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: So I think it's like, now, I do want to

633
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: touch on another moment, how did you move and pivot?

634
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 3: Because ten million dollars in business is still a good

635
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: business depending or you operate it. And I'm just trying

636
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 3: to figure out how did you move over? Because that's

637
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: a leap too, because a guy like you who's super focused,

638
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: You didn't say I'm going to be a basketball player

639
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 3: that don't work out, I'm going to then be a

640
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 3: soccer player, and then I'm going to play the spoons

641
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: on the corner somewhere or the harmonica. You are very focused,

642
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 3: knee deep like any of us are. Now you're really

643
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: focusing actively faith in all and then you start to

644
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 3: move over here what happened?

645
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, first and foremost active faith and actively black

646
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: are two separate entities, completely separatesities. So I actually still

647
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: own active faith and I have actively black. The reason

648
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: why I knew this was a God dream that was

649
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: placed in me and something that was purposeful because I

650
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: wasn't looking to do anything else other than active faith.

651
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: Like you said, I was laser focused. This is active faith.

652
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: This is what we're buildings from building. There were these

653
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: different moments that continue to happen throughout that journey that

654
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: I think planet seeds that ended up growing into me

655
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: launching actively black one.

656
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, you know, racism.

657
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: Still does exist in our society, and with active faith,

658
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: I would say close to sixty percent of my customers

659
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: with active faith are Evangelical Christian are you know, are white?

660
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

661
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 1: And at the time, you know, my personal social media

662
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: I had private you know, it wasn't a public account.

663
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: I was actually intentionally hiding myself from public.

664
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: View of Active Faith.

665
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: So if you went to the website, the Active Faith website,

666
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: you didn't see founded by Lanny Smith. If you went

667
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: to the Active Faith Instagram, you didn't see founded by

668
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: Lanny Smith.

669
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 2: Like it was.

670
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: People thought this was Steph Curry's company. And I was

671
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: cool with him, thinking this is Steph Curry's company, you

672
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like it wasn't something that I

673
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: was out in front of the way that I've been

674
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: with Actively Black. And so I would see these moments

675
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: where the same people who were buying Active Faith and

676
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: would be on social media praising Active Faith, and then

677
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: I would see them post the most racist things possible

678
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: about my people, and it would really bother me. You know,

679
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: entrepreneur in the beginning, you're wearing all the hats. I

680
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: would do customer service. I would be on the phone,

681
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: and multiple times this happened.

682
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: You know.

683
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: I remember this one guy who's like, you sound like

684
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: you're black on the phone. I was like, well, I

685
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: am immediately asked for a refund. Even had had a

686
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: couple of people who were interested in investing in Active Faith,

687
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: going back and forth over email. We set up an

688
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: in person meeting when I actually had the in person

689
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: meeting and I walked through that door. I saw it

690
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: in their faces. They were shocked that, oh, wait a minute,

691
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: this is the guy, and all of a sudden, all

692
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden, they weren't interested in investing anymore, you

693
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

694
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 2: And so.

695
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: Those moments they caused a lot of internal struggling because

696
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: my mother raised me to be proud of my heritage,

697
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: proud of who I am.

698
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: And I sat back and.

699
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: I thought, I'm like, I built a multi million dollar

700
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: brand out of my mother's house, and I'm hiding myself

701
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: from my brand because I'm afraid of if they find

702
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: out I'm black? What is that going to do to

703
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: the business. And that internal conflict was just really messing

704
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: with me. And in twenty eighteen, the movie Black Panther

705
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: came out. Excuse me, and I'll never forget. And this

706
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: is the power of representation. Seeing Chadwick boseman portrayal of

707
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: T'Challa on the big screen had such a profound effect

708
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: on me to see a superhero, this positive black figure

709
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: with skin like mine, with hair like mine. And I

710
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: walked out of that theater like with my chest puffed

711
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: out and it was just this sense of pride that

712
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: I had, and I saw the way the rest of

713
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: the Black community and the diaspora was responding to it,

714
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, yo, I want to create a

715
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,959
Speaker 1: brand that makes my people feel the way I felt

716
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: walking out of this movie. And it just wouldn't leave

717
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: me alone. I was putting the idea on the shelf.

718
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm too busy with active Faith. There's

719
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: no way I can do this other brand. I kept

720
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: putting the idea on the shelf. I put the idea

721
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: on the shelf again. I moved to Los Angeles six

722
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: months before the pandemic hitting. The whole city shut down,

723
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: and when it shut down, I said to myself, I'm

724
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: not gonna let this time pass without burthing something new.

725
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 2: I didn't know what it was gonna be. At the time.

726
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: We witnessed the murder George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, the aftermath

727
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: that happened after that, and I saw all of these brands,

728
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: and this is no diss to these brands. This is

729
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: just what I observed. I saw the Nikes, the Adidas,

730
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: all of these brands come up with these declarations about

731
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: what they wanted to do for the black community. And

732
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: it didn't sit right with me, because you take the

733
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: pandemic away, the events of twenty twenty are not new

734
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: to the black community. These things have been happening for decades,

735
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: for centuries, And I'm like, yeah, they've just been filmed, yeah,

736
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: right right, and they're happening.

737
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: Right now as we speak.

738
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: We know that, you know, I mean, and in the

739
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: incident that you talked about Rodney King, it's not like

740
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: even though there wasn't social media, it's not like that

741
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: the whole thing was.

742
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 2: Filmed, you know what I'm saying. We we we got

743
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: to see it.

744
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: So and it happened, and it happened in Watts before that,

745
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 3: right yeah, all right, Well.

746
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this don't sit right with me. This

747
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: feels like, this feels very performative. This now feels like

748
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: this is now part of these brands new marketing strategies.

749
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: And it is because my thing black from today right

750
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 3: now where we give away money and all the brands

751
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: all around us now our core brands are stuck by us,

752
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 3: thank god, you know, the one who want to be

753
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 3: on the market with us. But guess what everybody else

754
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 3: is all of a sudden I don't know yet. I

755
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: don't know anymore, but thank god I've chase to the

756
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: general Shopify lows and stuff by us. But yeah, a

757
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: lot of the other brands are like, oh, we're cutting

758
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 3: back this year and stuff like that really really weird

759
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: until all of a sudden, you know what's.

760
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: Going to happen, right right, And so that was I

761
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: think that was the moment that made me say, you

762
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to stop putting this idea on

763
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: the shelf. I'm taking this idea off the shelf and

764
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to do this. And to me, the power

765
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: was we've been asking, We've been asking these brands to

766
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 1: do these different things. We've been asking, we've been asking

767
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: me asking, And I'm like, you know what, let's stop

768
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: asking for a seat at the table and let's just

769
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: build our own table. Because if you build your own table,

770
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: then you can feed whoever you want to feed. Now

771
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: I can feed my people and we ain't got to

772
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 1: ask for it because this is something that we own.

773
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: And there's so many brands that have literally become multi

774
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: billion dollar brands that have utilized black culture, black talent,

775
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: black consumerism and haven't adequately reinvested back into the black

776
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: communities that they have profited from. And so I was like,

777
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: you know what, I want to do something about it.

778
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: There was a lot of you know, there was a

779
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: lot of keyboard warriors, especially around that time, you know,

780
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: posting the Black Squares and Black Lives Matter, and they

781
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: was posting about it, posting about it, talking about it,

782
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, let me, what can I

783
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: do about it? You know what, I mean, what can

784
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: I actually do about it? And in my lane, this

785
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: was something I felt like I could do about it.

786
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: So well, and I'm glad you did, because you know,

787
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: I want to make sure that we're very clear about stuff.

788
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 3: You know, it is it is disheartening to hear that

789
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 3: you come out with something about faith and where you've grown.

790
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 3: And some is extreme miss in every religion. There is

791
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: extremes in every thing, all right, whether it's any genre

792
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 3: and some yeah, and you know what, and it's always

793
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 3: ten percent, maybe twenty percent, and they usually create eighty

794
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 3: percent of the noise, right, you know, it's challenging, but

795
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: it's great to know that you got to that point.

796
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 3: But I want to think about the counter side of that, right,

797
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 3: you know, you look at black Panther, and I want

798
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 3: to keep you know, because this is people just like

799
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: either these days, they eat it so far left, so

800
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: far right. Black Panther one of the biggest grossing movies ever.

801
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 3: We only make up ten percent of the country, and

802
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 3: out of the ten percent of us, there are a

803
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 3: lot of African Americans who are now out of the

804
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 3: buying public a Black Panther. If you look at African Americans, right,

805
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: how many are you know under the age of whatever,

806
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: they you know, they don't have a lot of resource,

807
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: a lot of money. So Black Father became big because

808
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: it was just big to everyone. Yes, And I want

809
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 3: to always show the side of the landing who came

810
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: out with actively faith and people of all colors supported

811
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 3: and predominantly one one religious genre, and a small portion

812
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 3: of them m you know, the one who then flipped

813
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 3: it over actively black and so many other people are

814
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: supporting you, you know, and all these things because a

815
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 3: lot of and I think you brought up just a

816
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: really good point. We don't get mad as somebody to

817
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 3: be to be you know, kissing me I'm Irish right,

818
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: or or Italian restaurant or or the Japanese man. I

819
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: want to be a samurai, you know what I mean.

820
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 3: I got nothing against any of those things. So it

821
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 3: was those moments that you you've tapped into people and

822
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: it issue whatever you were whoever listening to. You can

823
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 3: be LGBT, cou plus, you could be a woman, you

824
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: could be white, you can be wealthy, you can be poor,

825
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 3: you can be whatever the case is. When people see

826
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 3: that you love what you're doing, we love to see

827
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: that you love if it's not offending anybody, and it's

828
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: not hurting anybody, right, right, we love to see that. Right.

829
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 3: We love to root for you, you know what I mean. Like,

830
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: you know, Kevin O. Leary is always going to be

831
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: Kevin Leary, but he's Kevin Learry. We love rooting for

832
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 3: his little guy. You know, Kevin Zileiary's the only guy

833
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: on TV who can curse you out with a twinkle

834
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: in his eye. He'll make fun of you and make

835
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 3: fun of himself. And you still kind of root with

836
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 3: Kevin in some ways or another, you know. But listen,

837
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: lending man, I really appreciate what you've been doing and

838
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: what you have done, and I think that there's so

839
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: many people that can learn from you from various different ways.

840
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 3: I started off doing this and I really had a

841
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: passion ever since I was a kid. I'm a goal setter.

842
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: And then I use that goal setting a physical writing.

843
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 3: Please don't feel like you're outdated when you're like, oh,

844
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 3: I still use a pen and paper. There's nothing to

845
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: be ashamed of. That is something that I think is

846
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 3: going to be a craft that's going to take you

847
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 3: way further about lining your brain. Right. So from that aspect,

848
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: I think then to come across that challenge and then

849
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: show people that you didn't have any money. So whoever's like,

850
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: oh that guy was an athlete, No no, no, no no.

851
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: I got busted his ass and learned with the access

852
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: and use the resources he had now and that was

853
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 3: a phone, right, and then switching and moving into something

854
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 3: else where you're so passionate. One was faith and one

855
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: is still faith in your community and giving back and

856
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: then being able to get globally recognized brands Mohama Ali

857
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 3: and Black Panther. I mean you dealt with Marvel, you

858
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like global that shows Marvel is

859
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: like we like you man. I know you don't have

860
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: the money that the big people have. It doesn't matter.

861
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 3: And I know this is one of the biggest brands

862
00:44:54,280 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: in history. Here you go, a president, here you go.

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Speaker 3: Anybody right now listening can take exactly what they're passionate

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Speaker 3: about and turn it into something that can be recognized

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Speaker 3: and enjoyed by everybody and fulfill what they have and

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Speaker 3: fulfill their community. So thank you, ma'am for spending this

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Speaker 3: moment with me. I think we touched on a lot.

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Speaker 3: I mean everything from Kevin Plank to writing to all

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Speaker 3: these weird moments that we're having. That means active faith.

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Speaker 3: It's for everybody. It's still alive, man, and your proof

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Speaker 3: of it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, thank you, thanks for having me man, Thank

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Speaker 2: you all right.

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