Speaker 1: Maybe. Wait, is that a light bright? Oh the light
Speaker 1: box toy where you make shapes with plastic pegs. No,
Speaker 1: though I'm flattered you think I can afford a light
Speaker 1: bright Okay, then what is it? Well? I was reading
Speaker 1: about our famous figures for today, Nicola Tesla and George
Speaker 1: Washington Carver, and I was inspired by Tesla's work with
Speaker 1: electricity and by the fact that Carver was a celebrated painter.
Speaker 1: So don't tell me you made your own kind of
Speaker 1: light bright thing called a blight. Yeah, I just combined
Speaker 1: B and light blight. You may want to rethink that name.
Speaker 1: But beat, do you have any experience with electronics or
Speaker 1: wiring or no? But hey, even Tesla had to start somewhere.
Speaker 1: So here, put the sunglasses on. I'm going to flip
Speaker 1: the switch. I'm not sure there is Oh wow, it's
Speaker 1: a peanut. It's so bright and getting brighter. Huh, Well,
Speaker 1: I guess now it's a roasted peanut. I'll get the
Speaker 1: fire extinguisher. Eric, please play us in here we go.
Speaker 1: What do you think you know about the rates from
Speaker 1: this study? The game is on. To get some energy
Speaker 1: and buckle up your brain, because it's time to play
Speaker 1: the podcast, because it's time to play. Live from Tom
Speaker 1: Bland or so called SoCal, Los Angeles. Welcome to Who Was,
Speaker 1: the history quiz show that gives contestants the chance to
Speaker 1: win mega prizes and podcast glory. I'm your announcer, be
Speaker 1: and I'm all announcer hardly knewer. And now here's your host,
Speaker 1: a man who was born wearing socks. It's Elliot Galin.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Be Yes, it's true. It was
Speaker 1: a medical miracle. And welcome everyone. So the Who Was? Podcast?
Speaker 1: This show it's like Jeopardy, only with surprise guests, silly games,
Speaker 1: and more explosions. Thank you. Our contestants were sent Who
Speaker 1: Was books about two great figures from history. Now they're
Speaker 1: here to show off their knowledge in the hopes of
Speaker 1: winning fantastic proses. Today we're talking about the engineer and
Speaker 1: physicist Nicola Tesla and the scientist George Washington Carver, two
Speaker 1: inventors whose work is probably hanging out in your kitchen
Speaker 1: right now, unless you have a peanut allergy or are
Speaker 1: a raw foodist, which is fine now, it's fine, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's there's no problem with that. Let's go meet our contestants,
Speaker 1: all right. First, up, we have Ellie. Ellie, please introduced yourself. Hi.
Speaker 1: I'm Ellie and I'm ten years old. I didn't thanks
Speaker 1: off bost since I was three years old. Wait, since
Speaker 1: you were three years old. I don't even think I
Speaker 1: could walk when I was three years old. That's amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let alone walk the basis. So um, Ellie, have you
Speaker 1: ever hit a home run? Yes? Will you tell us?
Speaker 1: But that felt like it felt really good? Did you
Speaker 1: really make the most of it? Like you walked the
Speaker 1: vases and you were waving to everybody and you were
Speaker 1: like blowing kisses to people and doing cart wheels and
Speaker 1: really showing off and like maybe dancing from third to home.
Speaker 1: Did you do it that way? I so just job
Speaker 1: because I'd be a little bit disrespectful. But then after
Speaker 1: I got into the dug out sided dancing and okay,
Speaker 1: I really I really like that you were respecting the
Speaker 1: other team that was really good at you. Yeah. Not
Speaker 1: only is she a winner, she does it gracefully. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much, Ellie. And also with us today we
Speaker 1: have Kinsley. Kinsley, please introduce yourself. Hi, my name is
Speaker 1: Kinsley and I'm ten years old and I've been doing
Speaker 1: gymnastics since I was five years old. Oh okay, And
Speaker 1: what is your favorite events when it comes to gymnastics.
Speaker 1: My favorite event and gymnastics is floor okay. And if
Speaker 1: you have a routine, like, what's your dream song for
Speaker 1: your floor routine? Um? Probably rewrite the Stars, Rewrite the Stars.
Speaker 1: I don't know that song. It's from the Greatest Showman.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, now we get it. That's great gymnastics music
Speaker 1: and the Greatest Showman. Yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: You know, I knew someone once named Jim Nastics and
Speaker 1: he was very clumsy. All right. I went to high
Speaker 1: school with the gymnastics. Thank you Ellie, thank you Kinsley,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. And thank you also to Eric,
Speaker 1: our musician, for providing that lovely live Meet the Contestants music.
Speaker 1: You know, today's episode is especially exciting because Ellie and
Speaker 1: Kinsley have the same teacher, Mr Bruno. Mr Bruno is
Speaker 1: here with us right now. Mr Bruno, what words of
Speaker 1: encouragement do you have for these two star students. They're
Speaker 1: they're definitely stars, and uh, just good luck to you.
Speaker 1: I think you're doing a great job. Okay, and Mr Bruno,
Speaker 1: if you were a gambling be I mean a gambling man.
Speaker 1: Which contestant would you tell your bookie to pit fifty
Speaker 1: on and let it ride large? You know, hypothetically speaking,
Speaker 1: Mr Bruno, I'm gonna I'm gonna jump in here and say,
Speaker 1: our lawyers have requested that I ask you to not
Speaker 1: tell us which child you would gamble on in this scenario.
Speaker 1: We yeah, that is a very small our decision. So
Speaker 1: that's who is. Now, Let's find out who was George
Speaker 1: Washington Carver with four fast facts Prospects. George Washington Carver
Speaker 1: lived from eighteen sixty four to nineteen forty three. He
Speaker 1: was an accomplished painter and showed paintings at the World's Fair.
Speaker 1: Carver's book on How to Grow the Peanut and On
Speaker 1: Five Ways of Preparing It for Human Consumption revolutionized the
Speaker 1: peanut and the peanut industry. He was the first Black
Speaker 1: American to have a national park named after him. Prospects,
Speaker 1: and how's that for working for peanuts? I feel I
Speaker 1: need to smooth something out and let people know that
Speaker 1: George Washington Carver did not create peanut butter, but he
Speaker 1: did help popularize it. Okay, well, it sounds like you're
Speaker 1: advocating for smooth peanut butter. There, I'm a crunchy gal myself.
Speaker 1: Why I'm not surprised You've always seemed kind of crunchy
Speaker 1: to me. Ellie, what's your stance on peanut butter? Do
Speaker 1: you like it smooth crunchy? What's or none? What's your preferred? Uh?
Speaker 1: Smith is definitely smooth, Kinsley, What about you? Do you
Speaker 1: prefer smooth peanut butter or crunch of peanut butter or
Speaker 1: no peanut butter or I guess those are all the options. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't really care, but I would prefer smooth peanut butter.
Speaker 1: We've got to smooth smooth criminals here, smooth operators to
Speaker 1: smooth peanut butter criminals. Now that we're all buttered up,
Speaker 1: it's time to move on to our first game. True
Speaker 1: or false? True, false? It is false? Is a false?
Speaker 1: Or is a true? It's a true that it is false?
Speaker 1: It was true or true? True or false? Thank you
Speaker 1: Eric for this game. The will read a statement. You
Speaker 1: will then let us know if the statement is true
Speaker 1: or false, just like the title of the game. Now,
Speaker 1: this is our first game, so each question is worth
Speaker 1: one point each. The first question goes to Ellie. Take
Speaker 1: it away, being though we know him as George Washington Carver.
Speaker 1: For most of his early life, George went by the
Speaker 1: name Carver's George. Is this true or false? True? That's right.
Speaker 1: It's true. He was born to parents who had been
Speaker 1: enslaved by Moses and Susan Carver and did not have
Speaker 1: the last name of his own, whose slavery was abolished
Speaker 1: when he was a baby. He still went by Carver's
Speaker 1: George until about the age of thirteen, when he, like
Speaker 1: many formerly enslaved people, took the surname of his former owners.
Speaker 1: The next question is for Kinsley Highland College, where George
Speaker 1: was accepted after completing high school, was the first educational
Speaker 1: institute that turned him away because he was black? Is
Speaker 1: this true or false? False? That's right, it's false. As
Speaker 1: a young child, George was also turned away from his
Speaker 1: local school because it was for white children only. He
Speaker 1: had to travel many miles to a neighboring town to
Speaker 1: attend the school that was for black students. George would
Speaker 1: end up doing this several more times over the course
Speaker 1: of his early life. He never let it get in
Speaker 1: the way though, of his thirst for education and knowledge.
Speaker 1: The next question is for Ellie. The Tuskegee Institute, a
Speaker 1: historically black college and vocational center in Alabama where George Todd,
Speaker 1: was established by another famous Black American whose initials are
Speaker 1: the same as the acronym for by the way bt
Speaker 1: W or BT dubs false. I'm sorry, that's true. The
Speaker 1: B t W is Booker T. Washington, a leader in
Speaker 1: the black community, later advised several presidents. George decided to
Speaker 1: leave his life in Iowa to go teach at the
Speaker 1: new Tuskeee Institute because it felt it could do the
Speaker 1: most good for his community there. The next question, this
Speaker 1: is the last one for the round, goes to Kinsley.
Speaker 1: George is best remembered for his work as being the
Speaker 1: patron Saint of peanuts, but another name he could have
Speaker 1: earned was Sir Sweet Potato, because of his work encouraging
Speaker 1: farmers to grow sweet potatoes. Is that true or false?
Speaker 1: I think it's false. I'm sorry that was true. George
Speaker 1: wanted to help southern farmers improve their soil and their incomes,
Speaker 1: encouraged them to stop focusing on cotton and instead grows
Speaker 1: sweet potatoes, cowpeas, sweet beats, rice, soybeans, and alfalfa. And
Speaker 1: those are the ingredients for a great salad, which we
Speaker 1: can now eat because it's the end of the round
Speaker 1: salad time, everybody, true, true, true, great rounds and thank
Speaker 1: you all. You're both doing fantastic. Let's touch base now
Speaker 1: with our producer Jane for the scorers, Jane Wary right now, Oh, Elliott,
Speaker 1: funny should ask we are tied up at one a piece.
Speaker 1: Ellie and Kinsley both have one. Thank you, Jane. Close game.
Speaker 1: It's a tie game already. That's contratty, but it's it's
Speaker 1: still anyone's game because there's a lot more game to
Speaker 1: get to. Well, Elliott, technically could not be my game
Speaker 1: or your game, but it could go to Ellie or Kinsley.
Speaker 1: That's true. I guess there's billions of people all over
Speaker 1: the world who this game could not go to. So
Speaker 1: really it's not anybody's game. It's either Ellie or Kinsley's game.
Speaker 1: Will be more precisely my wording, thank you specially. I'll
Speaker 1: keep that mind as we come back after this short break,
Speaker 1: Eric play us some nut music if you would. Th
Speaker 1: nuts are not nuts? M H. Welcome back to the
Speaker 1: Who Was Podcast. Today we're learning all about who was
Speaker 1: George Washington Harbor and who was Nicola Tesla? And now
Speaker 1: back to your host, Elliott Calein in thank you be.
Speaker 1: Our scores as we enter this next round are Ellie
Speaker 1: one and Kinsley one. They both got one. These are
Speaker 1: fierce competitors, so let's get right to finding out more
Speaker 1: about Nicola Tesla, the man who inspired an electric car
Speaker 1: brand with four fast facts. Tesla was a Serbian born
Speaker 1: in Croatia and lived from eighteen fifty six to ninety three.
Speaker 1: He improved electricity by engineering the alternating current, the way
Speaker 1: we still get power in our homes to this very day.
Speaker 1: One of his early jobs, digging ditches, led him to
Speaker 1: find backers for his research. Only after his death did
Speaker 1: he get credit for his pioneering work with radio waves,
Speaker 1: which paved the way for television and the Internet. You know,
Speaker 1: when you really start digging into his work, no pun intended,
Speaker 1: because he dug ditches, at one point you really realize
Speaker 1: how many things we still use today that we're all
Speaker 1: started by Nicola Tesla. Yeah. I mean, if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for him, I wouldn't have all these unanswered emails and
Speaker 1: text messages and group chats that I'm like sixty responses behind. On.
Speaker 1: So thanks a lot, Tesla. Yeah, thanks Tesla for get
Speaker 1: everything nice we said about him. But let's move on
Speaker 1: to our next game, something we call invention or deception.
Speaker 1: In this game, we list an invention that Tesla made
Speaker 1: and gave a reason as to why he invented it.
Speaker 1: If the reason is correct, the contestant will say invention.
Speaker 1: If the reason we give is incorrect, the contestant says deception.
Speaker 1: And this this is our second game. Each question is
Speaker 1: worth two points. Kinsley her up first. Nikola Tesla made
Speaker 1: his own candles when he was just a little boy
Speaker 1: so he could stay up as late as he wanted
Speaker 1: to and read invention. That's right, invention. He was always
Speaker 1: an ingenious person who would cover up his keyhole and
Speaker 1: shove sheets under the door. Snow light would escape and
Speaker 1: he could read until the wee hours of the morning. Luckily,
Speaker 1: his whole life he didn't need very much sleep. He
Speaker 1: only slept for a couple of hours a night. We
Speaker 1: assume he was spending that time reading who was books?
Speaker 1: Perhaps this next question is for Eli. Tesla designed the
Speaker 1: Tesla Coil because originally he wanted to compete with Slinky
Speaker 1: and find a toy that could go downstairs and get
Speaker 1: its own theme song, like everyone knows it's Tesla deception.
Speaker 1: That's right, deception. He invented the Tesla coil as a
Speaker 1: way to turn low voltage into high voltage, which was
Speaker 1: then released as a spark. The next question goes to Kinsley.
Speaker 1: Tesla pioneered controlling a toy boat with radio way so
Speaker 1: his friend, a mouse named Stuart Little, could have joy
Speaker 1: rides through the ponds of New York City. Deception. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's right, deception. He did use the boats as a
Speaker 1: way to demonstrate how radio waves worked by traveling through
Speaker 1: the air. Stuart Little is, of course a fictional character,
Speaker 1: so it would be hard for him to beat friends
Speaker 1: with him, but you never know, maybe he was. I could.
Speaker 1: I would love to be friends with a fictional mouse anyway,
Speaker 1: or a real life mouse. Mice. If you're out there listening,
Speaker 1: take the cheese. I'm friendly. Yeah. If there're any mice
Speaker 1: listening to this and you're in bees house, go for it.
Speaker 1: She's just trying to be friends. She's not trying to
Speaker 1: trap here. Now. The patent for radio technology first went
Speaker 1: to Tesla's rival Google O Marconi, but the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: overturned those patents shortly after Tesla's death. Oh so close,
Speaker 1: too late for Tesla to make any money off it.
Speaker 1: The next question goes to Ellie Nicola built the warden
Speaker 1: Cliff Tower, named after the town of warden Cliff, Long Island,
Speaker 1: where he hoped to send power and signals wirelessly to
Speaker 1: the citizens or wardens of Wardencliffe and the world beyond invention. Yes,
Speaker 1: you're right, invention. Sadly this plan didn't work out for
Speaker 1: Tesla and get to shut down warden Cliffe, a tragedy
Speaker 1: for the people of Long Island. This was somewhat the
Speaker 1: beginning of the end for Tesla. He spent much of
Speaker 1: the rest of his life feeding pigeons around New York City,
Speaker 1: even bringing them back to live with him in hotels, which,
Speaker 1: now that I know he was friends with the pigeons,
Speaker 1: it makes it much more likely he could have been
Speaker 1: friends with a mouse. And that was invention or deception.
Speaker 1: That was a great game, everybody. Okay, let's go to
Speaker 1: Jane with the scores. I can't wait to find him out.
Speaker 1: Oh well yet and be You're not gonna believe this,
Speaker 1: but we are tied yet again, each contestant having five points.
Speaker 1: You know, be h. Both Nicola Tesla and George Washington
Speaker 1: Carver they were so focused on their work that they
Speaker 1: lived alone most of their adult lives. I wonder if
Speaker 1: they ever got lonely. Yeah, I mean personally. I know
Speaker 1: no amount of pigeons can replace human interaction. I do,
Speaker 1: I know that personally. And Nicola did tell a newspaper
Speaker 1: that he never married because having a partner would take
Speaker 1: away too much attention from his work, but that it
Speaker 1: was a pity for sometimes we feel so lonely. And
Speaker 1: George Washington Carver talked about feeling lonely after his brother died.
Speaker 1: If only George Washington Carver and Tesla could have helped
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Speaker 1: wast podcast. When we last left up, Ellie had five
Speaker 1: points and Kinsley had five points. Now back to your host,
Speaker 1: Elliott Galin, Thank you be. It's been a great game
Speaker 1: today and it's going to continue to be a great
Speaker 1: game as we go onto our last game. Which will
Speaker 1: also be great. It's called converge of greatness. In this
Speaker 1: multiple choice game, we'll explore how inventors George and Nicola connect, overlap,
Speaker 1: or converge. And because we're in the third round, each
Speaker 1: question is worth three points. Big points on these questions. Ready, Ellie, Ready, Kinsley, Okay, great.
Speaker 1: The first question goes to Ellie be take it away,
Speaker 1: all right, Ellie. Both George Washington Carver and Nikola Tesla
Speaker 1: suffered from childhood illnesses that affected the course of their lives.
Speaker 1: While George had about a whooping cough, Nicola caught which
Speaker 1: of the following illnesses after completing high school A polio, B,
Speaker 1: cooties or see cholera see color. That's right. The answer
Speaker 1: to ce cholera. He had to stay in bed for
Speaker 1: nine months after catching cholera. When we returned home, his
Speaker 1: parents feared he would not survive. That's obviously different from cooties,
Speaker 1: which everyone knows at the time required at least twelve
Speaker 1: months of bed rest. They had yet to invent the
Speaker 1: cooty shot, which luckily science now knows is just circle,
Speaker 1: circle dot dot. Kinsley, This next question is for you.
Speaker 1: Both Nicola and George were raised with religion as a
Speaker 1: big part of their lives. George felt spiritually connected to
Speaker 1: a higher power through plants and nature, but Tesla felt differently,
Speaker 1: even though he had this role at his church. Was
Speaker 1: it a bell ringer be orthodox priest? Or see an
Speaker 1: usher a bell ringer? That's right, he was the ringer
Speaker 1: of the bells there. Tesla rang the bells at church
Speaker 1: as a young boy, but he wasn't necessarily a spiritual person.
Speaker 1: His father wanted it to become a priest. But once
Speaker 1: when Tesla was very sick, he told his dad the
Speaker 1: only way he would get better is if he could
Speaker 1: go to school to become an engineer, and his father said, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll allow it. Drama, drama, drama at the Tesla household. Okay.
Speaker 1: The next question is for Ellie. Both Nicola Tesla and
Speaker 1: George Washington Carver were invited to work with famous inventor
Speaker 1: Thomas Edison, but only Tesla ended up working with Edison.
Speaker 1: Why did Tesla eventually stop working for Thomas Edison? Was
Speaker 1: it a Edison refused to give Tesla a bonus he
Speaker 1: was promised b Tesla bought Edison's company or see Edison
Speaker 1: stopped inventing and took up blind dancing. Hey, that's right,
Speaker 1: the answers a Edison refused to give Tesla the bonus
Speaker 1: that he promised them. Edison said he would pay Tesla
Speaker 1: a fifty thou dollar bonus to redesign his generators. So
Speaker 1: Tesla worked nineteen hours a day every day for a year,
Speaker 1: but after a successfully updated the generators, Edison was all
Speaker 1: that was a joke. That bonus was a joke. Likes like,
Speaker 1: so thankfully Edison was an inventor, not a stand up comedian,
Speaker 1: because it's not a very good joke. It feels like
Speaker 1: more of a prank than a joke. It was part
Speaker 1: of Thomas Edison's prank show light Bulb, which was it
Speaker 1: was a lot of light bulb based pranks and just
Speaker 1: surprising people with light bulbs in different places. It was
Speaker 1: and there was no TV at the time, so no
Speaker 1: one could watch it. So I really don't know why
Speaker 1: he was doing it. Okay, the next question is for Kinsley,
Speaker 1: All right, Kinsley Nicola Tesla was known for holding big
Speaker 1: parties full of celebrities and giving grand speeches about his work.
Speaker 1: George Washington Carver famously gave a speech that was only
Speaker 1: supposed to last ten minutes but ended up going on
Speaker 1: for hours. It wasn't at a dinner party. But who
Speaker 1: was he talking to? Was it a congress b his
Speaker 1: plants or see the Royal Society of Arts in London.
Speaker 1: I believe it's a congress. That's right, it's a He
Speaker 1: gave a riveting talk to Congress that helped him pass
Speaker 1: legislation to help the peanut industry. George was honored by
Speaker 1: the Royal Society of Arts in London though, And if
Speaker 1: he didn't talk to his plants, he was most definitely
Speaker 1: what you would call a plant whisperer. And that's stirring
Speaker 1: heavenly music means it's the end of the game, which
Speaker 1: means it's almost the end of the show. Before we
Speaker 1: get to the very very very end of the show,
Speaker 1: James gonna tell you the points. And while she's doing that,
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from our contestants. What's something that
Speaker 1: you were really surprised to learn about Tesla or Carver,
Speaker 1: or something that really stuck with you that you thought
Speaker 1: was really cool, Ellie, was there something that stuck out
Speaker 1: to you about either one? So Nico Tesla knew about
Speaker 1: like Internet. He already had that like in his head
Speaker 1: that it's going to happen in the future. And I
Speaker 1: thought that was really cool because it had it already happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's that amazing. It was like the nineteen thirties and forties,
Speaker 1: and he was telling people someday you're gonna have a
Speaker 1: machine in your pocket that you can look up any
Speaker 1: information on the world or talk to anybody through and
Speaker 1: nobody and what did they do that? They were they like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, Tesla, that's going to happen. Yeah, they laughed
Speaker 1: at him, right, but they were wrong. And now Tesla
Speaker 1: is the one doing the laughing. That's right. Pigeons, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and his pigeon buds are just laughing at the rest
Speaker 1: of us. Yeah, that was really cool. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: that also speaks to the way that they talked about
Speaker 1: Nicola's sort of like mind and the way that it
Speaker 1: worked that he could just see things so clearly in
Speaker 1: a way that other people couldn't. Yeah, that he could
Speaker 1: invent machines in his mind and test them in his
Speaker 1: mind because he could visualize them so clearly. Kimsley, was
Speaker 1: there anything about either Nicola, Tesla or George Washington Carver
Speaker 1: that really jumped out of it, that made you really go, oh,
Speaker 1: that's amazing. It's that he like already had the picture
Speaker 1: in his mind and like he just knew how to
Speaker 1: build it already. He was just like, oh, I can
Speaker 1: build this because he had a good picture. It's mine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I even I have trouble thinking of like what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wear during the day in my mind, and
Speaker 1: he could to put together an entire machine just in
Speaker 1: his head. Mr Burna, what about you, Is there anything
Speaker 1: about either of these historical figures that really stuck out
Speaker 1: to you? Yeah? Read Tesla got his big break digging
Speaker 1: ditches and the foreman heard I'm talking about some motors,
Speaker 1: and so he's out there digging ditches and they got
Speaker 1: a job. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You always got to be
Speaker 1: very verbal about your passions and dreams. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: The Tesla was really not one to hide his light
Speaker 1: under a bushel. He would talk to anybody and everybody
Speaker 1: about what he was interested in doing, and Carver was
Speaker 1: the same way too. They were both excited about sharing
Speaker 1: what they were interested in and it brought their lives
Speaker 1: toward Let's go to the big moment. Jane, can you
Speaker 1: please announce our winner for today? Oh? Yeah, I wish
Speaker 1: I could, but we don't have a winner. We have
Speaker 1: two winners. Kelly and Kinsley have tied to the Love
Speaker 1: Come Teach Well Fantastic fantastic. It's a super tie. Okay,
Speaker 1: great playing both of you. Since you're both the winners
Speaker 1: of each of you is gonna get ten seconds to
Speaker 1: kind of give shoutouts and thank whever you want to thank. Kinsley,
Speaker 1: do you want to go first? Who would you like
Speaker 1: to thank for your shared victory today? Um? I would
Speaker 1: like to take my mom, my dad, and one of
Speaker 1: my friends named Eva, who's going to be on another
Speaker 1: podcast that spetastic Ellie. Who would you like to shout out?
Speaker 1: Probably my mom and my dad and Kinsley because she
Speaker 1: also helped me. Um, we like quizzed each other on
Speaker 1: the books and stuff. You know what, Now I feel
Speaker 1: now I feel like there are even more than two
Speaker 1: winners because that's the greatest thing I've ever heard, So
Speaker 1: I feel like a winner now. The real winner today
Speaker 1: was friendship. That's my fantastic. Well, our winners and their
Speaker 1: library of choice are going to receive a selection of
Speaker 1: who was books, and I'm going to give a shout
Speaker 1: out here at the end of the show to intern Zach,
Speaker 1: to Jane, to Eric, to Joshua, John Baptises for being
Speaker 1: our George Washington Carver and Zach for being article the tesla,
Speaker 1: Zach Kimpson and to be And a big thank you
Speaker 1: to both of our contestants who play a fantastic game today.
Speaker 1: Thank you at home for listening. And next week come
Speaker 1: back to us. We're gonna find out about two more fantastic,
Speaker 1: fascinating figures from history. Until then, this is Elliott, Sir,
Speaker 1: Sweet Potato Calin saying we're history. Thanks everybody, goodbye. Got
Speaker 1: a question for any of our famous figures, Send us
Speaker 1: a voice memo at the Who Was Podcast at gmail
Speaker 1: dot com. It might just stand up on the show.
Speaker 1: The Who Was Podcast is produced by Radio Point, I
Speaker 1: Heart Media and Penguin Workshop, based on the best selling
Speaker 1: Who h Q series published by Penguin, Hosted by Elliott
Speaker 1: Calin with co host Megan O'Neill as b also starring
Speaker 1: Jane Baker as Producer, Jane, Eric Shackney as Eric, Joshua
Speaker 1: Jean Baptiste as George Washington Carver, and Zach Timpson as
Speaker 1: Nicola Tesla. Executive producers are Richard Gorson, Alex Bach, Elliott Calin,
Speaker 1: Megan O'Neil, Daniel Powell, and Houston Snyder. Executive producer for
Speaker 1: Penguin Workshop is Francesco Sadita. Executive producer for iHeart Media
Speaker 1: is Lindsay Hoffman. Written by Megan O'Neil, Elliott Calin, Kennie
Speaker 1: Mobley and Jane Baker. Produced by Bernie Kaminski. Talent producer
Speaker 1: is Jane Baker. Theme song and music composed and performed
Speaker 1: by Eric Shackney, Edited and mixed by Kate Moldenhower, Recorded
Speaker 1: by Joanna Samuels and special thanks to Zach Timpson, Charlotte Dianda,
Speaker 1: Daniel Goodman, and Michael Lewis Howard, who was podcast was
Speaker 1: recorded at the iHeart Studios in Los Angeles, California. Sound
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