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Speaker 1: with Joshua P. Warren. Welcome to our podcast. Please be

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Speaker 1: research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hello, it's

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Speaker 1: the Wizard of Weird Joshua P. Warren, and I'm going

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Speaker 1: to be out of the recording studio for a little

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Speaker 1: while to conduct some wild experiments in the field. But

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Speaker 1: and breaking news you will love so for right now,

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Speaker 1: please enjoy this best of episode and I'll be back

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Speaker 1: with new goodies for you soon. I promise. Get ready

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Speaker 1: to be amazing. Find a Wizard of Weird. This is

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Speaker 1: Strange Things with Joshua Warren. I am Joshua BE Warren,

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Speaker 1: and each week on this show, I'll be bringing you

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Speaker 1: brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises and weird experiments

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Speaker 1: you can do at home, and a lot more on

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Speaker 1: this edition of the program. An amazing new ghost photo

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Speaker 1: has been captured, and I am breaking it right here

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Speaker 1: on this podcast exclusively. I've been doing a lot of

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Speaker 1: that lately. I recently broke some amazing UFO footage and

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Speaker 1: now I have this picture I'm going to tell you

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Speaker 1: all about plus plus we're gonna get into who is

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Speaker 1: the Devil. That's quite a topic, and I want to

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Speaker 1: little bit later that really freaks some people out. So

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Speaker 1: I know. I talk a lot about inspirational, warm and

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Speaker 1: fuzzy stuff, but this is this is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: creepy one for some of you that said, let's jump

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Speaker 1: into this new ghost photo. Of course, I live here

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Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, Nevada, and I produced the Vegas Ghosts

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Speaker 1: and UFO show that we do almost every weekend at

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Speaker 1: the Millennium Fandom Bar in Downtown Vegas, very popular cosplay bar.

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Speaker 1: The show was hosted by Nick Weird. It's a big

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Speaker 1: party all the time, but especially on the weekends there

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Speaker 1: and the manager is a lady named Linda Beamonte who

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Speaker 1: is also a psychic medium. In fact, if you remember

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Speaker 1: the podcast that I did where I went to the

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Speaker 1: Haunted Pioneer Saloon and Good Springs, Nevada, I brought a

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Speaker 1: So Linda contacted me recently and she said, there is

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Speaker 1: this woman who lives in Vegas. She came into the bar.

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Speaker 1: Her name is Teresa Marie, and she took a photograph

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Speaker 1: I'll be happy to take a look at it. Linda

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Speaker 1: here's the situation. Theresa Marie she studied photography professionally for

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Speaker 1: on December twenty nine of two thousand and fifteen, she

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Speaker 1: And of course, as you know, the Church of Notre

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Speaker 1: She was by herself. She was like on a backpacking

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Speaker 1: there are two apparitional nuns, like very solid looking nuns

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Speaker 1: It helps lend credibility to hear from the photographer about

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Speaker 1: If you want to see this picture, though, for now

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Speaker 1: dot com. Click the link to the Curiosity Shop and

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Speaker 1: if you scroll down, you'll just see her name somewhere

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Speaker 1: near the bottom of the page, Theresa Marie. And if

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Speaker 1: the story Teresa of how you captured this photo, and

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Speaker 1: here's what she said. UM. So I was in France

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Speaker 1: in I was back back in solo, UM, trying to

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Speaker 1: so now have you captured something ghostly like that before? No? UM.

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Speaker 1: where every day is golden and every night is silver.

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Speaker 1: The Church of Notre Dame, well, they started building it

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Speaker 1: in the year eleven sixty three. Notre Dame de Paris

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Speaker 1: means our Lady of Paris. And I have been a

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Speaker 1: professional paranormal investigator for around thirty years. And I don't

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Speaker 1: And I want to really think Teresa Marie for sending

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Speaker 1: when you look at this picture, and again if you

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Speaker 1: want to see it, go to Joshua Pee Warren dot com,

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Speaker 1: click the link to the Curiosity Shop scrolled down and

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Speaker 1: just click the link to her name, Teresa Marie. Here

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Speaker 1: But looking over Teresa Marie's shoulder are these two figures

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Speaker 1: And again I hated that there was a light in

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Speaker 1: Eric summarizes by saying, anyway, I cannot come up with

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Speaker 1: well that I can't help. But thinking about the possibility

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Speaker 1: in all my years of doing paranormal research, I've never

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Speaker 1: who is the devil? I mean, if you were to

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's a little more nuanced than you would expect.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you encounter the devil all the time. I'm Joshua

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Speaker 1: a normal podcast network. I'm your host, Joshua P. Warren,

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Speaker 1: And this is the show where the unusual becomes usual.

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Speaker 1: If indeed the minions, the minions of the devil, are

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Speaker 1: that could not just be a hell of an acting job,

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Speaker 1: if you want to get right down to it. I've

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Speaker 1: never seen somebody levitate or create some you know, poltergeist

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Speaker 1: phenomenon in the room where I've never seen that. But

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Speaker 1: you know, there is something to this phenomenon, and we

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Speaker 1: have to ask ourselves, all right, well, what's the source

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Speaker 1: of all this? Who is this character called the devil

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Speaker 1: that is supposedly behind all this? And if you just

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Speaker 1: go and you basically start reading about the devil, just

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Speaker 1: to the Wikipedia page, it says the devil is the

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Speaker 1: personification of evil as it is conceived in various cultures

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Speaker 1: and various traditions. It is seen as the objectification of

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Speaker 1: a hostile and destructive force. It's important to understand that

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Speaker 1: the devil is a figure in many any different religions

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Speaker 1: all around the world, and of course many we have

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Speaker 1: many different names Satan, Lucifer, Bills above, Mephisophlees, etcetera. But

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Speaker 1: as far as the meaning of the word in modern English,

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Speaker 1: the word devil comes from the Middle English word de

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Speaker 1: vel and, which comes from the Old English word death

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Speaker 1: all and that in turn represents an early Germanic borrowing

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Speaker 1: of the Latin word the obelis and ultimately it means slanderer,

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Speaker 1: a slanderer, so slandering things is devilish. And if we

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Speaker 1: you know, considering that this is an American podcast and

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Speaker 1: Christianity is the top religion in the world. It says

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Speaker 1: in Christianity in particular, that evil is incarnate in the

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Speaker 1: devil or Satan, a fallen angel who is the primary

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Speaker 1: opponent of God. So he was once an angel, and

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Speaker 1: he got mad at God and betrayed him. And this

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Speaker 1: fallen angel now comes down here terrorizing the world through evil.

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Speaker 1: And he is the one who's in charge of this realm.

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Speaker 1: He's the prince of this particular realm right now. And

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Speaker 1: as far as how he looks, the Bible is always

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Speaker 1: very vague about this, as Satan is traditionally identified as

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Speaker 1: the serpent who convinced Eve to eat the forbidden fruit.

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Speaker 1: Thus he has often been depicted as a serpent, as

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Speaker 1: a serpent um. And it on the other hand, it says,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the Bible, the devil is identified with

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Speaker 1: the dragon and the old serpent seen in the Book

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Speaker 1: of Revelation again, the prince of this world and the

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Speaker 1: spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience disobedience.

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Speaker 1: So so basically, you know, even though he's he's called

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Speaker 1: a serpent, you know, if you read the Book of Genesis,

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Speaker 1: it says that, well, he's talking to Eve and you know,

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Speaker 1: we know that I've we've not seen a talking snake.

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Speaker 1: And and the story basically goes that God was so

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Speaker 1: angry that uh he had that that the devil had

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Speaker 1: interfered with Adam and Eve, that he cursed his form

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Speaker 1: to slither on his belly forever. And so you get

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Speaker 1: the idea that the devil took on a form that

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Speaker 1: was not like we think of as the modern day serpent. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So that said, there is one moment in the Bible

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Speaker 1: and that is when the devil sits down and has

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Speaker 1: direct conversations with Jesus. So, if you believe in the

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Speaker 1: stories of the Bible, and you believe that Jesus was

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Speaker 1: a divine incarnation, perhaps I mean, you know, some say

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Speaker 1: Jesus was basically God and the devil has decided to

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Speaker 1: come and talk to him. Now that's an interesting conversation,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. And let's go back and look at just

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Speaker 1: what the devil actually says to Jesus. According to the Bible,

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Speaker 1: in the Book of Matthew, it says that Jesus was

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Speaker 1: led by spirit. Okay, this is something like the Holy Spirit,

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Speaker 1: I guess to go into the wilderness and too fast

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Speaker 1: for forty days and forty nights. Well, he was obviously

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Speaker 1: a man, and he was hungry. Okay, so I'm paraphrasing

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Speaker 1: a little bit here. But then it's says the tempter

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Speaker 1: came to him. Now we're talking about the devil appears.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't say how he appeared, doesn't saybody looks like and

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Speaker 1: the tempter comes to him and says. He doesn't say like,

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Speaker 1: let's let's do battle like Darth Vader and Obi wan Kenobi. No,

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Speaker 1: he just says, you're hungry, right, yeah, yeah, Jesus, So

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Speaker 1: he says, well, if you're the son of God, you know,

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Speaker 1: just tell these stones to become bread. So what is

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Speaker 1: the Okay, what's the message here? The message is that

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Speaker 1: the devil is trying to undermine Jesus's confidence in himself, like, well,

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Speaker 1: if you're so special, you know you don't have to

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Speaker 1: go through this. Use your special magical power and make

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Speaker 1: make these stones turn into bread so you're not hungry anymore.

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Speaker 1: And Jesus response in a very interesting way, he says,

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Speaker 1: man shall not live on bread alone, but on every

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Speaker 1: word that comes from the mouth of God. That's a

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Speaker 1: very interesting point, isn't it. Man shall not live by

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Speaker 1: bread alone, because if you do that, well, you're just

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Speaker 1: like an animal. The humans are beyond that. We're we're spiritual.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, let's talk about the other two

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Speaker 1: things that the devil said to Jesus and what is

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Speaker 1: he getting at? What's his message? What can we learn

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Speaker 1: by the moral the morals of these stories? And also

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Speaker 1: can you bind up the devil? I think I may

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Speaker 1: have some ideas on that for you. I'm Joshua P. Warren.

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Speaker 1: And think about the devil telling Jesus, you know, if

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Speaker 1: you're so great, do that he's trying to make him

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Speaker 1: maybe abuse his power. Jesus says, man shall not live

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Speaker 1: on bread alone, that's true. Then the devil took him

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Speaker 1: to the Holy City and had him stand on the

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Speaker 1: highest point of the temple and said, if you are

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Speaker 1: the son of God, throw yourself down. He says, he

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Speaker 1: will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift

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Speaker 1: you up in their hands so that you will not

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Speaker 1: strike your foot against a stone. So now the devil's

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Speaker 1: tempting him with a side. Oh really, well, you don't

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Speaker 1: want to demonstrate your power. Okay, Well here's another version.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you just kill yourself and let's see if

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Speaker 1: how how much that God really loves you, how much

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Speaker 1: he's going to protect you. And Jesus answers him, and

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Speaker 1: he says, do not put the Lord your God to

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Speaker 1: the test. Do not put your Lord to God to

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Speaker 1: the test. So then the devil takes him to a

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Speaker 1: very high mountain and shows him all the kingdoms of

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Speaker 1: the world. It's like the devil's teleporting Jesus around here,

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Speaker 1: shows him all the kingdoms of the world and they're splendor,

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Speaker 1: and decides, well, I guess this is my last chance

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Speaker 1: to win this guy over. And he says, all of

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Speaker 1: this I will give you if you'll just bow down

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Speaker 1: and worship me, and Jesus said, away from me, Satan,

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Speaker 1: for it is written, worship the Lord your god, and

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Speaker 1: serve him only. And that is when the devil gave

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Speaker 1: up and left, and then angels appeared and attended to Jesus.

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Speaker 1: Now isn't that interesting that Again, it's not like the

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Speaker 1: devil appeared and wanted to do vicious battle like something

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Speaker 1: out of a sci fi movie. No, he tried to

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Speaker 1: come and persuade Jesus and convince Jesus to doubt his

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Speaker 1: beliefs and his truths, and to doubt him himself and

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Speaker 1: his faith and what is good and what is powerful,

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Speaker 1: and to ultimately win him over with the superficial and

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Speaker 1: temporary things of this world. Because this is the devil's world,

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Speaker 1: it says, this is he's the prince of this world.

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Speaker 1: Right now. Do you think when you look at the

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Speaker 1: world today, that the demons have been let loose and

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Speaker 1: that there is a lot of this type of realistic

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Speaker 1: activity going on, that we're not looking at little monsters

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Speaker 1: with horns and forked tongues and tails running around. No,

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Speaker 1: it's persuasion of one kind or another, and you have

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Speaker 1: to to be steadfast there. That's I think what the

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Speaker 1: devil really is, but you can come up with your

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Speaker 1: own opinion. You know that you can bind the devil

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Speaker 1: symbolically or devilish things. Uh, you know. I have my

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Speaker 1: device on my website called the Bad Buster, and the

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Speaker 1: holidays are coming up, and I created a product which

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Speaker 1: I call the Crumpus Buster. It's the anti Crumpas Doll.

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Speaker 1: And I'll talk more about this a little later, I'm sure,

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Speaker 1: but Crumpus is this demonic, monstrous figure that is the

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Speaker 1: opposite of Santa Claus. Santa Claus is old St. Nicholas.

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Speaker 1: He's supposed to show up and give you gifts if

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Speaker 1: you're good. Crumpus instead shows up and he drags you

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Speaker 1: off intoes terrible things to you if you're bad. And

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Speaker 1: I created this is an original creation, a special Crumpas

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Speaker 1: doll that you ritualistically bind up and you put away

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Speaker 1: as the holidays are approaching. So you bind up dark,

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Speaker 1: negative spirits around the holidays. Seriously, I don't have many

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Speaker 1: of these, but I'll give right now. You're getting your

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Speaker 1: heads up before I send out an you knows letter

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Speaker 1: about this. You'll get a big discount if you go

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Speaker 1: and look at this and you can get one of these.

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Speaker 1: Go to crumpus buster dot com k R A M

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Speaker 1: at this thing and look at how cool and interesting

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Speaker 1: it is. Then I'll be talking more about the Crumpus

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Speaker 1: on a future show. So I'm giving you a little

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Speaker 1: heads up before everybody else jumps on it. Crumpus buster

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, let's see if I can squeeze in

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Speaker 1: an email here from Jennifer in Howell, Michigan. This is

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Speaker 1: something that happened, she said, summer of two thousand seven.

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Speaker 1: I was sleeping over at my boyfriend Billy's house. When

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Speaker 1: we would go to bed, he'd always sleep by the

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Speaker 1: wall and I'd sleep on the outside. I awoke at

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Speaker 1: the door creaking as it opened. I laid there looking

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Speaker 1: at a very tall, dark figure standing in the doorway.

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Speaker 1: Billy started tapping me with his finger. The dark figure

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Speaker 1: entered the room and gazed at us for a moment.

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Speaker 1: Suddenly it crouched down on all fours and started to

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Speaker 1: running around the bed back and forth, growling and snarling.

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Speaker 1: It had shifted into something like a dog. This thing

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Speaker 1: looked blacker than the darkest shadows in the bedroom. I

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Speaker 1: could not believe what I was seeing, and my boyfriend

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Speaker 1: was tapping me faster. Now I was paralyzed with fear,

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Speaker 1: so all I could do was watched the creature on

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Speaker 1: the floor. It stopped at the foot of the bed,

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Speaker 1: jumped up and clamped its jaws on Billy's foot and

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Speaker 1: yanked him halfway off the bed. Billy sat up as

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Speaker 1: the creature backed into the darkest corner of the room

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Speaker 1: and then disappeared. Billy and I spoke about what had happened,

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Speaker 1: and he told me he could not move or talk

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Speaker 1: when the creature touched him. He said he was trying

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Speaker 1: to call out to me, but no sound would come out.

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Speaker 1: We tried to sleep, and the next day we saw

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Speaker 1: that there were bruises around Billy's ankle. This incident baffles

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Speaker 1: us to this day. Billy thinks the creature was trying

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Speaker 1: to steal his soul and jump into his body. Billy's

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Speaker 1: mom thinks it was a demon, the same demon that

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Speaker 1: had taken over her father when she was young. Her

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Speaker 1: father was a very evil man who had beaten the

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Speaker 1: family and mistreated the children. When she was a little girl.

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Speaker 1: Her father was locked in the house as it burned

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Speaker 1: to the ground. I don't know what to make of this,

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Speaker 1: as I've had shadow figure encounters, but nothing violent like this.

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Speaker 1: I do know this thing was after something. Oh boy,

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Speaker 1: I can understand why it's something like that happens. You

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Speaker 1: would say, uh, yeah, this is some kind of a

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Speaker 1: soul steeler. This is something like this is a demonic

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Speaker 1: monster of some kind that is an incarnate creature here

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Speaker 1: that has come to wreak havoc. I can understand that. Um,

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Speaker 1: but maybe that's something different than a than an actual

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Speaker 1: demon that is there to sort of ultimately persuade you mentally.

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Speaker 1: We just don't know. I don't have the answer to everything,

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Speaker 1: and that's what I tell people from time to time.

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Speaker 1: People ask me questions and I say, I'm an expert

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Speaker 1: on what we don't know. But I do know that

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Speaker 1: I believe in forces of good and evil and right

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Speaker 1: and wrong. And anybody who watches the Serial Killer and

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Speaker 1: true crime shows ought to know that. And that's why

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Speaker 1: it's important after you listen to this sort of dark content,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, you know, you have to face it

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Speaker 1: sometimes it's it's it's interesting. You have to know what

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Speaker 1: the problem is before you can solve it. That's why

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Speaker 1: it's important for you to increase your defenses and to

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Speaker 1: have positivity and to fill your mind with good things

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Speaker 1: and optimistic thoughts to combat a lot of a lot

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Speaker 1: of the darkness, and and don't take substances that can

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Speaker 1: can weaken you um and make you sick and make

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Speaker 1: you vulnerable. And in fact, a lot of people take

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Speaker 1: a glass of water when I I'm gonna play the

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Speaker 1: good Fortune tone here for you. You I think you

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Speaker 1: definitely needed after this. They take that glass of water

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Speaker 1: they play the good Fortune tone at last twenty seconds,

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Speaker 1: and then later they drink that glass of water and

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Speaker 1: say that they feel refreshed and re energized and positive

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Speaker 1: and strong, and that it really does something great for them.

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Speaker 1: So maybe you should try it. If if not, that's fine,

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Speaker 1: just kick back, relax, take a deep breath, and listen

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Speaker 1: to it. And I hope you've enjoyed this spooky show.

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Speaker 1: But now it's time to cleanse everything. So here you

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Speaker 1: go enjoy the good Fortune tone. That's it for this

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