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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison and Lauren Zim coming to you from the

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<v Speaker 1>home office in Austin, Texas. Hey, everybody, uh so excited

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<v Speaker 1>to be back and talking to you today after what

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<v Speaker 1>was a busy separated weekend from each other. Babe.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm worried about you saying that because after we did

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<v Speaker 2>the episodes with the divorce coach and Laura Wasserman divorce attorney,

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<v Speaker 2>I had several people DM me and be like, but

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<v Speaker 2>this doesn't mean you guys are getting a divorce, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, so not have done?

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan? What have we done? A Ryan interested?

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<v Speaker 2>No, like said things to confuse people. No, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>as poetic as Ryan.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true, That's very true.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, we're good just because we just always welcome

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<v Speaker 2>all relationship discussions. So, no, we are not divorcing. And

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<v Speaker 2>after you said busy separated weekend, no, no, no, we

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<v Speaker 2>are not separating either.

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<v Speaker 1>I also did a great episode coming up with a

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<v Speaker 1>gut health doctor. Everything's fine there too, colonoscopy, all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I seriously go back and listen that. We had some

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<v Speaker 1>great interviews and we kind of we did get on

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<v Speaker 1>a tangent there. But one thing led to another when

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<v Speaker 1>we had never heard about a divorce coach, and we

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<v Speaker 1>dove into that, and then we had this amazing probably

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<v Speaker 1>the foremost divorce lawyer on to talk about divorce. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had if it was negative though, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was actually very positive. No.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'd actually never talked to Laura Wasserman before,

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<v Speaker 2>despite covering her celebrity divorce cases many times for Entertainment Tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>and she has this reputation of being fierce in the courtroom,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was so surprised by how chill and very

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<v Speaker 2>positive about relationships. She was not jaded at all, just

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<v Speaker 2>very empathetic about it all. And so I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that must be why she gets so much business, because

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<v Speaker 2>she's going to be kind of this pitbull on your side,

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<v Speaker 2>but also be really human about the process. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you haven't listen to that episode, go give it a

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<v Speaker 2>listen because you are getting a lot of free, very

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<v Speaker 2>good divorce lawyer advice in that episode. I had people

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<v Speaker 2>from et DM me and say, oh, wow, you guys

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<v Speaker 2>had Laura Walser on, like she's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, yeah, give those a listen, but no, these

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<v Speaker 1>were very positive trips. But the reason I was bringing

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<v Speaker 1>them up, we couldn't have had more different weekends. We

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<v Speaker 1>did a one to eighty. You were on a girl's trip.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you mean by separated. We just literally weren't together.

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<v Speaker 1>We weren't together because you had your annual girls trip,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a rite of passage, and it is this

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<v Speaker 1>amazing thing that you and your amazing group of women

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<v Speaker 1>do your friends from college and I went on a

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<v Speaker 1>very very boys trip.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I don't know if i'd call it a write

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<v Speaker 2>of passage, but it's a pact that we've made to

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<v Speaker 2>every year together. And I've said this before, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sorry if you're hearing me repeat myself. But I also

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<v Speaker 2>can't say it enough. I think in this day and

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<v Speaker 2>age of cell phones and social media, we all feel connected,

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<v Speaker 2>but there is nothing like in person connection to fill

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<v Speaker 2>your soul, to fill your emotional cup, to make unforgettable memories.

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<v Speaker 2>And what my girlfriends and I did my sorority sisters.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Cap Alpha Theta for changing my life forever.

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<v Speaker 2>We made an agreement. Right after college. We kind of

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of weddings and bachelorette parties that kept

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<v Speaker 2>us all hanging out, and we still have those on occasion,

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<v Speaker 2>but we made an agreement to every single year we

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<v Speaker 2>were going to do a trip together, and every year

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<v Speaker 2>we would change the location and nobody misses that trip,

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<v Speaker 2>and nobody wants to miss that trip unless they're too

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<v Speaker 2>pregnant or have just said a baby or sick or something.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we do it every year, and we just

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<v Speaker 2>we make more memories and laugh more and cry more

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<v Speaker 2>in those two days then I do in a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of other weeks of my year. We all look forward

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<v Speaker 2>to it so much, and it just like brings us

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<v Speaker 2>back to life in a lot of ways in times

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<v Speaker 2>when like work and kids and stuff can make you

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<v Speaker 2>very busy, and there's nothing like hanging out with your friends. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>you on this weekend that I just finished. I loved

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<v Speaker 2>that you decided to do this. You said, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to have a boys trip, and you got together with

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<v Speaker 2>our son Josh, with your nephews Hank and Sam, and

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<v Speaker 2>with your brother Glenn, and you guys also cried a lot, right,

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<v Speaker 2>we did it all.

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<v Speaker 1>We shot guns. Okay, I went to by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>If you're ever around Nacadoch's, Texas, which is where we were,

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<v Speaker 1>East Texas. The best gun range in Texas, meadow Ridge

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<v Speaker 1>gun Range and out it's meadow Ridge Outdoors. Not just guns,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is awesome. Asked for my man Sam and

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<v Speaker 1>Kimberly Harrison, but my godson and they put on a

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<v Speaker 1>great show for us. Went to meadow Ridge. We shot guns.

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<v Speaker 1>We got up the next morning and went bass fishing.

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<v Speaker 1>My other godson, Hank Harrison. If you're ever in that area,

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<v Speaker 1>double h look him up. He's a great guide. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a bass fishing guide. He put us on the fish.

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<v Speaker 1>We went bass fishing. So shotguns, bass fishing. We then

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<v Speaker 1>went to like a pool hall honky Tnk. Shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to Benita the honky Tonk there. Then the next morning

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<v Speaker 1>we got up and played golf.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that's the core for you. Hunted, you fished,

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<v Speaker 2>you honky tonked, and you golf.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So and it was a spectacular weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, how much did you share emotionally and cry?

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<v Speaker 2>This is what's funny, talk about your fears and your stresses.

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<v Speaker 1>And Laurne and I were sending each other videos as

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<v Speaker 1>we often do when we're texting back and forth, how

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<v Speaker 1>is your weekend, How is your weekend? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>I would send videos of us shooting guns. You sent

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<v Speaker 1>videos back of these different pods of women all in

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<v Speaker 1>one room, twenty women all talking at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>having incredibly intense conversations. And she did a revolving little

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<v Speaker 1>three sixty video of the room and it was just

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<v Speaker 1>white wine and conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>The activity is talking in What would our core for be.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess our core forwardould be what we call tots

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<v Speaker 2>and tench, which is totally intentional deep conversations. So tots

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<v Speaker 2>and tench crying, laughing, and how many times did you

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<v Speaker 2>cry this weekend? Like three? Really, it was all one

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<v Speaker 2>conversation though honestly, everybody asked me about experience camps because

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<v Speaker 2>it's coming up on me volunteering and experience camps again

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<v Speaker 2>next week, and so I was just like talking about

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<v Speaker 2>some of the kids that I volunteer that are in

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<v Speaker 2>my bunk, and so that brought me to tears very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>But like you know, we're now at the life place

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<v Speaker 2>where other member I was the first one of my

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<v Speaker 2>friends to lose a parent, but now two more of

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<v Speaker 2>my friends have and so it's like good for us

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<v Speaker 2>to share on that. So I could cry talking about

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<v Speaker 2>it now, but yeah, so I wanted to. I almost

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<v Speaker 2>said the last of our core four would be drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh this makes us sense terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>So Siue, you know you're sitting around, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>fireplace going, and you have some good wine. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all good.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean actually, honestly on this trip we didn't do

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<v Speaker 2>that much drinking. I think we were just like in

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<v Speaker 2>the past, we've done like Cabo. We did last year,

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<v Speaker 2>and Cabo lends itself more to like tequila shots. And

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<v Speaker 2>this year we did upstate New York at a lake cabin, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that y'all moving around geographically it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what, it's very enriching to always be

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<v Speaker 2>in a new place because it kind of creates new

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<v Speaker 2>situations to make memories out of. So we've made that

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<v Speaker 2>part of the pact. But the lake cabin vibe was

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<v Speaker 2>more like glass of wine by the fire and so

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<v Speaker 2>it was just a bit more chill. We did like

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<v Speaker 2>some you know, paddle boarding and boat stuff, and actually

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<v Speaker 2>that was a really great reminder I think to all

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<v Speaker 2>of us that you know, we when you surround yourself

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<v Speaker 2>with the right friends. And I'm not like poopooing drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you guys know, I love a glass of

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<v Speaker 2>wine as of late, very into Montrachet white bergishes. If

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<v Speaker 2>you hadn't tried those yet, it's my new chardonnay is

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<v Speaker 2>a mantrache. But it's a good sign when you're with

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<v Speaker 2>friends that like you don't need the alcohol to have fun,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like I think part of the reason, and

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<v Speaker 2>I advise our kids on this when you're choosing your

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<v Speaker 2>friends in college, when you're choosing your friends at any time,

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<v Speaker 2>pick people who make you better. Pick dynamic individuals. When

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<v Speaker 2>I look around the room at that group of women,

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<v Speaker 2>there are doctors, lawyers, moms, you know, moms of four,

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<v Speaker 2>stay at home moms, working moms, teachers, pharmacists, like people

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<v Speaker 2>in marketing. There are It's such a dynamic, intelligent, successful,

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<v Speaker 2>empathetic group of women that, like, it was a nice

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<v Speaker 2>reminder that you know, we didn't need to like really

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<v Speaker 2>drink that much to like laugh and have a great

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<v Speaker 2>time and be silly and stupid with each other. And

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<v Speaker 2>also as we're having these deep talks, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>listening to each other challenging each other to think differently.

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<v Speaker 2>So again you just leave with your cup really full.

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<v Speaker 1>I think our version of that, the guys version, whether

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on a guy's trip like with my buddies or

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<v Speaker 1>this trip which was my son and two god kids,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my son's cousins and my brother was there

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<v Speaker 1>the two why the two wives were also in and

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<v Speaker 1>out of dinners and stuff, so we saw them as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just being silly and laughing. Yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cracking on each other, giving each other a

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<v Speaker 1>hard time. Watching the kids bond. All the kids are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty close in age, within two three years of each other,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're all kind of in the same life place

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<v Speaker 1>and just watching them reconnect, bond, be silly, be stupid,

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<v Speaker 1>make jokes, but then also seeing you know, Sam there

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<v Speaker 1>at meadow Ridge outdoors doing his thing, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Hank is also, among other things, as a guide. Shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to double H percision precision fishing. If you are

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<v Speaker 1>in the Nacadochus area and want to just crush the fish,

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Rayburn all those lakes over there in East Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>look them up. But watching them do what they do,

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<v Speaker 1>watching and seeing them thrive and all that. My brother

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<v Speaker 1>and I just got to kind of sit back and

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<v Speaker 1>be proud parents. And it's fun obviously to be with

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<v Speaker 1>my brother as well, who's two and a half years

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<v Speaker 1>older than me, so it was great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always interesting to me that you prioritize saying god

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<v Speaker 2>sons over nephews. Is that like both? I know, but

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<v Speaker 2>you say god sons first, and I would just I'm not, like,

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<v Speaker 2>is it just a different Is that a Texas thing? Maybe?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean in my family we don't have like, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't really have godparents period. But I think I always

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<v Speaker 2>assumed god parents were like chosen friends, not family members.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be anything, it can be totally.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also would assume you would say nephews before

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<v Speaker 2>you'd say god sons. God sons first.

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<v Speaker 1>They're both, They're are all those things biological family.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and you know, maybe it is a geographical thing

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<v Speaker 1>for either way. I grew up when I was younger

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<v Speaker 1>and having kids and all that, it's like they are.

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<v Speaker 1>It was also kind of a spiritual and a religious

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<v Speaker 1>guide to someone who will have your back and be

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<v Speaker 1>a mentor and watch over you and you know, lead

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<v Speaker 1>you hopefully down the right path.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh interesting. I just always thought it was like, if

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<v Speaker 2>your parents die, these people will take you.

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<v Speaker 1>And traditionally I guess it's someone also who if something.

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<v Speaker 2>Thinking it was also like if your parents died, and

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<v Speaker 2>like if no family, then these people would take you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just you're picking the same people.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a legal document. That's really weird. That's a really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting conversation to have, by the way, that is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to take your kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, something we don't talk about on the show as much,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was a real conversation when you have children, like,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, your sister is pregnant and she's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a baby. Her and her husband will have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Have this discuss thing you hate thinking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but it's like, you know, it's irresponsible to

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<v Speaker 1>not have those conversations. And it's really interesting because here's

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<v Speaker 1>what's funny. It's very rare and this could be us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very rare that there's two people you really want

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<v Speaker 1>to have the kids. What you really want is to

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<v Speaker 1>split people up, so it'd be like, okay, how about

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<v Speaker 1>your sister, my brother. You know, you really want to

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<v Speaker 1>put together this perfect couple. It's rarely like that. You

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<v Speaker 1>have one couple where you love both of them so much.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, for some people they might have friends, the

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<v Speaker 2>friends who they'd want to take the kids over family,

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<v Speaker 2>you know not and everybody's close with family.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's something you have to stipulate, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>your will. And it is a real conversation you have

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<v Speaker 1>to have, like a phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Tree, who's at the top of the phone tree and

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<v Speaker 2>if they're not available, okay the next time no.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's only something you have to worry about for

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<v Speaker 1>two decades, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. And one more thing on the on the trips,

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<v Speaker 2>I think being present is so important. One thing that

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<v Speaker 2>I really love about these trips I take with my

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriends is like everybody has a job, right, everybody has kids,

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<v Speaker 2>but we've really come to know how important they these

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<v Speaker 2>moments are. And like you mentioned, you and I send

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<v Speaker 2>each other a couple of funny videos, which we did,

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<v Speaker 2>but beyond like maybe a daily five minute phone call

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<v Speaker 2>or a quick text to check in with family, we

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<v Speaker 2>really are dialed into each other. It's like no one's

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<v Speaker 2>on their phone or facetiming a bunch with their you

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<v Speaker 2>know kids, and being like it's come here and be present,

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<v Speaker 2>and that makes a big, big difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be the annoying friend who's constantly on their phone,

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<v Speaker 1>especially face timing back home.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm going to be judgmental on that for

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, but tell me, as I was never a

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<v Speaker 2>parent of young children, Is it again a two minute FaceTime? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>But my parents would go away on trips.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And one thing I really admired about my parents is

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<v Speaker 2>that they very much prioritize their marriage. And I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like from everything I've read that that actually leads to

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<v Speaker 2>a very successful household where you make sure your marriage

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<v Speaker 2>is a priority, like outside of your kids, that it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just all about the kids and we're sacrificing our relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>So my parents would go away on little weekends together,

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<v Speaker 2>one night away together and leave us with our grandparents.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously back then you didn't really have cell phones,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, we never missed them checking in. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I just I think it made us better

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<v Speaker 2>at being a little more independent and not like, is

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<v Speaker 2>it a good thing to be doing the face times

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<v Speaker 2>with the kids when you're away.

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<v Speaker 1>No, First of all, it doesn't help.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm asking you in part as well, because you had

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<v Speaker 2>long chunks away from the kids when you were working

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<v Speaker 2>on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what's funny, the so when it all started,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no face time and it was difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>even call at times. You had to get the right

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<v Speaker 1>plan for long distance and all that. Things obviously moved

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<v Speaker 1>along with being able to text worldwide, and then obviously

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<v Speaker 1>FaceTime came about or zoom or whatever you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do face to face. I think that hurt. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it makes it worse. I felt even just as the parent,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt more lonely and more disconnected because I would

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<v Speaker 1>jump into their lives real quick. Sometimes I would get

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<v Speaker 1>up in the morning. I was around the world, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it'd be in the middle of the night

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<v Speaker 1>for me, and it would be seven in the morning

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<v Speaker 1>for them. They were getting ready for school. And sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they would just prop me up and I would sit

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<v Speaker 1>there while they eat breakfast and we would talk. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you turn off the phone and boom, you're in

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<v Speaker 1>South Africa. You're an Iceland, period and it's yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very painful, and I don't think it helps the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>With that said, you do not need to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>your kids or check in more than once today period

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<v Speaker 1>period that's it. Everybody's healthy, everybody's good. There is zero

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<v Speaker 1>reason you need to check in more than once today

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<v Speaker 1>and again if your son's playing in a championship game

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<v Speaker 1>or something you want to. I know there's little things

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<v Speaker 1>here and there, but I'm just saying on an average day,

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<v Speaker 1>we know people will go on vacation and they will

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<v Speaker 1>face time with their kids five, six, eight times a

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<v Speaker 1>day in the middle of dinner. Your kids need to

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<v Speaker 1>know what you just said. Your time is important, your

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<v Speaker 1>time away is important. They need to know that your

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<v Speaker 1>mental health, your emotional wellbeing is good and they are

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<v Speaker 1>fine not talking to you twenty four to seven. And

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<v Speaker 1>if that is the case, you got to cut the

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<v Speaker 1>cord man, because that is insane and it's not healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not healthy for you, and it's one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>not healthy for your kids to talk to you five

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<v Speaker 1>or six times a day. And the reason I say

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<v Speaker 1>Munchhause and syndrome, you are abling and actually you're enabling

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<v Speaker 1>your kids to exist on their own and know that

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<v Speaker 1>they are fine and that you were fine. You are

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<v Speaker 1>creating them.

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<v Speaker 2>See you feel like this is like making the kids, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and making sickness.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're wanting to make them sick. You need them to,

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<v Speaker 1>you need them to need you, and they don't. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't need you. They're fine. Kids are resilient. Humans are resilient.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to make it twelve well.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a very new thing, right. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>see now with my friends, and I think what's hard

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes is that all of these things, social media, cell phones,

0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.360
<v Speaker 2>technology is both good and bad, and so that's why

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<v Speaker 2>it's really hard to like help make people see the

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<v Speaker 2>bad sometimes. Like for example, now they have like these

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<v Speaker 2>baby monitors where you can like watch your kid twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four to seven on app through the monitor, like watch

0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.000
<v Speaker 2>them in their crib. You could like literally turn it

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<v Speaker 2>on and watch them sleep all night if you're away

0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.399
<v Speaker 2>through an app on your phone. On the one hand,

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<v Speaker 2>that's great. It's probably really convenient if you're downstairs, you

0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:14.359
<v Speaker 2>can real quick look on your phone and see your

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<v Speaker 2>kid upstairs without even walking up the stairs. On the

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<v Speaker 2>other hand, I have been around friends before who like

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<v Speaker 2>new moms, and I'm not. I don't know what it's

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<v Speaker 2>like to be a new mom. But we're at dinner

0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.800
<v Speaker 2>and they keep checking the monitor and I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>But people didn't used to have this. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>very new thing and I don't think we need that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I you know, back in the day, how how

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<v Speaker 2>did you keep in touch with your kids when they

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<v Speaker 2>went away to college. They wrote you a letter once

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<v Speaker 2>a week, you know, were they.

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<v Speaker 1>Made a long distance phone call once a week.

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<v Speaker 2>It's why getting back to camp. Actually, I think that

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<v Speaker 2>going to summer camp is really good for the kids

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<v Speaker 2>of today because they are technology free for weeks, if

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<v Speaker 2>not months, They write letters to their parents. They get

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<v Speaker 2>a sense of independence from that. I see a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of benefits now that I'm kind of more in the

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<v Speaker 2>camp world. There's a lot of good that comes out

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<v Speaker 2>of being on their own, being around other kids, and

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<v Speaker 2>being unplugged from technology.

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<v Speaker 1>I try to give my kids days and days of

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<v Speaker 1>no contact with them being at college, with them being

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<v Speaker 1>in college, and even now Josh has graduated. But I

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<v Speaker 1>try to go as as long as I can. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it won't be more than a week, for sure, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'll check back in. But when I do have a

0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.680
<v Speaker 1>conversation with them, it's a download and it's as serious

0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:33.399
<v Speaker 1>as you say, more meaningful, and we are intentional about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like today, Taylor called me and we talked for forty

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes and we really got into it and she

0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:40.480
<v Speaker 1>asked me what I was up to, and vice versa.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to talk to her ever, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know some people do talk every day and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just I think it emboldens them to create

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<v Speaker 1>their own lives, deal with their own problems. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge thing. They need to have enough rope to live

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<v Speaker 1>their life and make mistakes and fix those mistakes and

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<v Speaker 1>not come running to you every time something happens. I

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<v Speaker 1>just that is I don't know if that's a hot

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<v Speaker 1>take or not, but I just I see more and

0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:09.680
<v Speaker 1>more of that with parents of when you're with them, Yeah,

0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and they act like that's that it's a viable excuse

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<v Speaker 1>to step away from from the dinner table five or

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<v Speaker 1>six times too, And it's not nothing's wrong. It's just, oh,

0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Billy wants to talk real quick, and it's so cute

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<v Speaker 1>and they think that all think it's cute, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's dependable.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like we're at dinner with you, Like I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of we've been in that situation before. I

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<v Speaker 2>sort of feel like, but we took the time to

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<v Speaker 2>come to dinner with you, like if it's obviously, if

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<v Speaker 2>it's an emergency, it's a different situation. But like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not leaving dinner to go take a work call three

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<v Speaker 2>times during the dinner. I would find that root if

0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.399
<v Speaker 2>someone did that. And I do think it applies to

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<v Speaker 2>the kid thing too, Like I'm here with you, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>your friend. I wanted to have We're only here for

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<v Speaker 2>an hour and a half. I wanted to have this

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<v Speaker 2>dinner with you being present.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's very simple, Billy, you're fine, We're at dinner

0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:53.920
<v Speaker 1>with friends. I need you to respect our time. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be home in an hour and we'll talk about all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard because it had they have the ability. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean when I was a kid, I couldn't if my

0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:02.680
<v Speaker 2>parents went out to dinner, I couldn't call them. How

0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:04.000
<v Speaker 2>could you? You couldn't, so like.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to call the olive gardener, red lobster.

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<v Speaker 2>And did not Gosh, wow, Should we spend less time

0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:12.480
<v Speaker 2>in total contact with each other?

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, it doesn't go for us. But I will

0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:19.080
<v Speaker 1>say when we're apart though, like we were this weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>if I heard from you, great. I mean there were

0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:23.480
<v Speaker 1>there was days where maybe you'd send me a text

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<v Speaker 1>and that's about it. And then you'd take a night

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<v Speaker 1>and I would I knew where you were and I

0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:29.280
<v Speaker 1>knew what you were doing, and that was important.

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<v Speaker 2>So you knew that I was just getting my nature

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<v Speaker 2>on in those.

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't want to break into that emotional wall. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want any part of that, right, What Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at a gun range and you're doing that. Like

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<v Speaker 1>we were polar opposites emotionally. I was not.

0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was I say that, but it was funny.

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<v Speaker 2>My friends know me very well and they were all saying, zeems,

0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:51.639
<v Speaker 2>this is a pretty naturry location. How are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to do here? It was a little buggy, but hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I handled it. I like an adventure. I

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<v Speaker 2>will say that if we ever, if anyone ever suggests camping,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I want to do that one. But

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<v Speaker 2>it was cabminding. All right, We're going to be back

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<v Speaker 2>with some headlines, okay, everyone from our personal headlines too,

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<v Speaker 2>headlines all over the place. We wanted to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>a few things in our world, the entertainment world going on.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, this headline from Sabrina Carpenter. I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to bring this up to you, babe, because you were

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<v Speaker 2>in the industry for such a long time. I'm Sabrina

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<v Speaker 2>Carpenter's having a real moment right now. Lots of hit

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<v Speaker 2>songs opened for Taylor Swift, like killing It, and she

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<v Speaker 2>revealed in a new interview with Variety that maybe her

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<v Speaker 2>biggest hit of the past few months the song Espresso

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<v Speaker 2>and you know it that higher ups, she said didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to release the song, that she had to convince them,

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<v Speaker 2>and wow, did her sticking to her, you know, her

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<v Speaker 2>standing her ground pay off because it was such a

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<v Speaker 2>massive hit. And you see that a lot in our industry,

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<v Speaker 2>especially now when decisions are made with algorithms and AI

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<v Speaker 2>and tech people at the top making these decisions instead

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<v Speaker 2>of creative people. Were you ever in a moment like

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<v Speaker 2>that with any of the shows you did where you

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<v Speaker 2>like pushed for something creatively and maybe you got your

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<v Speaker 2>way or didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>All the time, Yeah, it happens all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's that and you're right. It is this intersection of

0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:40.680
<v Speaker 1>corporate executives and many executives who get to the level

0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:44.879
<v Speaker 1>of at all these networks or streamers or whatever, and

0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:47.880
<v Speaker 1>they've never actually created anything. They've never produced right, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not producers. They who knows where they came from. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's not to knock on them, because they have gone risen,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on the ladder their way, and clearly they

0:22:56.520 --> 0:22:57.960
<v Speaker 1>were good at what they did, but they will get

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<v Speaker 1>to a point where they got to cross over and

0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:03.920
<v Speaker 1>instead of maybe leaning on someone creative, they are thinking, well,

0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:06.760
<v Speaker 1>I've been good at this, so I'm good at everything,

0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:12.159
<v Speaker 1>and you have to fight like the Dickens. And I

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>think the best lesson I will learn is figure out

0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:17.000
<v Speaker 1>whichhill you want to die on. And for her it

0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:19.000
<v Speaker 1>a Sabrina Carpenter. I'm guessing she's like, this is the

0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:21.399
<v Speaker 1>hill I'm going to die on. This single needs to

0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:24.560
<v Speaker 1>be out in the world. I want this launched. And

0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:26.399
<v Speaker 1>you win some of these fights, and you lose some

0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:28.760
<v Speaker 1>of these fights, and they're probably good at what they do,

0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:31.200
<v Speaker 1>but they're not good at everything, and they have blind

0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 1>spots too, and it's okay to point out these blind

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:37.080
<v Speaker 1>spots and to fight for what you believe in creatively.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing is, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not the executive producer, if you're not the boss,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to have the final say and sometimes

0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:45.639
<v Speaker 1>you have to eat it and you got to swallow

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:47.680
<v Speaker 1>your pride and you got to go do the show

0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:49.800
<v Speaker 1>that you don't think was probably very good.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything specific that comes to mind for you,

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 2>a time when you fought and you made it and

0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:55.200
<v Speaker 2>it worked so well, or a time when you thought, man,

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<v Speaker 2>they really should have listened to me on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a we're in the middle of an election.

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<v Speaker 1>The last two elections ago, this would have been Trump

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 1>and Hillary. And the thing about The Bachelor is it's

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:16.960
<v Speaker 1>never been political. I don't think people tune in to

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:19.160
<v Speaker 1>The Bachelor because they're on the left of the right

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:22.199
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. I don't care, and we've never cared. The

0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 1>point is you want to escape. That's what I thought

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 1>the show was about. And one of our creators, one

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:32.680
<v Speaker 1>of the bosses, was just a hardcore lefty, big Democrat,

0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:35.680
<v Speaker 1>and he wanted me to make And this is in

0:24:35.920 --> 0:24:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the middle of a tape show, as women.

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Tell all, was it live?

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:42.240
<v Speaker 1>No, it wasn't live, So we're taping it. And in

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the show, they would get my ear

0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:45.359
<v Speaker 1>They often do that. They would get my air and

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:48.720
<v Speaker 1>say literally an earpiece and say, hey, they want you

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:50.240
<v Speaker 1>to say this. They want you to say that. Ask

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 1>this question. Most of the time, very productive, very good.

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:56.879
<v Speaker 1>This one time, in the middle of this, he wanted

0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 1>me to make a Trump joke and say something positive

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:03.159
<v Speaker 1>about Hill, and it was just we I've never done that.

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 1>In the twenty years I've been on the show. We've

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 1>never made a political joke, never made an innu window

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:12.200
<v Speaker 1>of any sort of politics. And so I looked at

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>my direct camera because they I wasn't on camera, but

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 1>they could see me, and I just shook my head no,

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:19.760
<v Speaker 1>and he got my air and said it again. They

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 1>want you to say this. He said no, and then

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:24.280
<v Speaker 1>they got back and said, you know where this is

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:26.919
<v Speaker 1>coming from. You know who's asking. They want you to

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:30.679
<v Speaker 1>say this, And I again shook my head no. Go

0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:33.919
<v Speaker 1>to commercial break, stop, Chris. They want you up in

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the control room. They called me up to the control

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 1>room and I got absolutely verbally assaulted, screaming at me.

0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:46.440
<v Speaker 1>There's thirty people in the room, and you know it's funny.

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 1>The Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. Remember who's the woman that runs

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:51.879
<v Speaker 1>It's Kelly. They were there because the Dallas Cowboy Chiliders

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 1>were in an Oxnard for training camp. And I invited

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 1>them and they were all there. They were in the

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:58.360
<v Speaker 1>next room, and they heard it. He was screaming at

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 1>me of like, this is how this works. I tell

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:03.119
<v Speaker 1>you what to say, and you say it. And so

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I stood my ground and I didn't make a political joke.

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 1>And so that's one where I'm glad I stood make

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:10.679
<v Speaker 1>ground because that's what we never stood for that. We

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>never wanted to fight that battle or that's not what

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the show's about. It's about you escaping. And so that

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 1>was one that really stood out where I got absolutely

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 1>verbally abused in front of everybody, just got absolutely undressed.

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:25.199
<v Speaker 1>And then I went back down and I said, all right,

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:26.720
<v Speaker 1>well you know I agree to disagree. I'm going to

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 1>go do the show I was going to do. And

0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 1>I left and never did it.

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 2>You were glad you sucked to your Well, yeah, it's

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:34.680
<v Speaker 2>no place for that on the show. I think people

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:38.360
<v Speaker 2>would be surprised by how many times you were in

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:42.159
<v Speaker 2>situations like that when you were kind of having to

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 2>fight what should be said or shouldn't be said behind

0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 2>the scenes, because you and I both shared this difficulty.

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 2>You're working for a big brand and company and multiple

0:26:56.000 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 2>companies behind the scenes, but it's your name the TV

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 2>and it's you who's speaking with the words coming out

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 2>of your mouth. Like that's a big difference to me

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 2>between hosting and acting. When you're an actor, you're beholden

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 2>to a lot of companies, sure, and you have bosses,

0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.879
<v Speaker 2>but you're playing a character. When you're a host, you're

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 2>beholden to all these people, but it's like, you got

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 2>to say this stuff. There were definitely times at ET

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 2>when I creatively disagreed with questions they wanted me to

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:28.120
<v Speaker 2>ask the ways that they wanted me to ask things,

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:32.120
<v Speaker 2>but I had to do it at certain times. And

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 2>when I look back, and I think it's a lesson

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 2>for anybody in your work environment, Like, sure, you have

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:40.920
<v Speaker 2>to do things sometimes at your job that you don't

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 2>want to do. But when I look back, the thing

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 2>that I'm proudest of at ET was Roses and Rose

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 2>and that was creatively pretty much completely me. And I

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.399
<v Speaker 2>think that's in part why I'm so proud of it,

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 2>because I got to do this like weird, quirky show

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 2>the way that I wanted to do it, and I'm

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 2>really grateful for my boss, Shana, who green lit it

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 2>in the first place, because in the beginning you could

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:08.160
<v Speaker 2>have looked at it and said, like, what is this

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't really like the et vibe. But I

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 2>guess I'll toot my own horn and say, I think

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 2>that's what happens when people allow creatives to do their thing.

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 2>That became CBS's number one original digital show. And if

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:23.919
<v Speaker 2>you're worried, a piece of advice I would give if

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to figure out how to do your own

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 2>thing at work is like tell them, like, start with

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.639
<v Speaker 2>small resources, because that is more likely to get you

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 2>a green light. Like when I started doing Roses and Rose,

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 2>I said I just need me and like one editor,

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 2>that's all that I need. And that, truly, by the way,

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 2>was pretty much what it was up until the end.

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 2>We eventually had two camera guys and I had a

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 2>producer who helped me a little bit with pulling footage show.

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 2>So the team did eventually grow, But in the beginning

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 2>that was kind of how I got it green lit.

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 2>And you know, then when you proven the success of something,

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 2>then you get more re sources for it. I do

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 2>think sometimes people today, everybody's like, well, this is my idea,

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 2>and they want like don't put the cart before the horse,

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, get the product and then get the budget

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 2>after that. But I wanted to give a shout out

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 2>to Sabrina Carpenter for sticking her guns on that and

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 2>it worked.

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 1>And that kind of leads into another, like very interesting

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>interview we just saw.

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 2>So Vince Vaughan was on Hot Ones, which if you

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 2>haven't ever heard of it is ever do that you won't.

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 2>It's the show where you eat you progressively eat spicier

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 2>and spicier hot sauce on wings are all being interviewed.

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 1>If he started with mayonnaise and went to catch.

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Up, Oh yeah, because you can't have I well.

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>The show, but I mean I can't do paste Peccani sauce.

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean that show would I would, I would be

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 1>in the hospital.

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what sauce you just mentioned, but so

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 2>I guess I'll give another point of reference for people

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 2>about how wimpy Chris is about spice. If there is

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 2>a jalapeno, a single slice of jalapeno to be found

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 2>on his sandwich, in his drink, like we are not

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 2>going for at spicy margarita with this man, And every

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 2>time he eats or drinks anything that like he didn't

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 2>know was even a little bit spicy. His eyes start

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 2>to water and he goes, it's gotta look kick to it,

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, oh my god, it sure does not.

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 1>That was teen or if I ever went on the show,

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I would just always answer honestly, because you don't have

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>to eat if you answer correctly.

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think that's not part of the premise.

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 2>The premise is just you keep eating and they keep answering.

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not like an either or When people do that show,

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 2>they're just signing up for the comedy of their own pain.

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I just I couldn't do it. I really, I honestly

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>physically couldn't do it.

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 2>You would throw up for sure, that could be.

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 1>But I love the show and Vince Bond was on

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>and he was fantastic.

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 2>So he spoke about and I was a little frustrated

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 2>because his quotes were very you know, it's part of

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 2>the reason why I'm a little I've pulled back from

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 2>my own industry of the media, but they were taken

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 2>out of context by a lot of people. He gave

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 2>this really thoughtful answer to why his the thing that

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of made him famous. Our rated movies like that

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 2>aren't made anymore.

0:30:57.920 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Wedding crashers, old School.

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Just Dodgeball, Yeah, great movies, movies that we all love

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 2>un quote. So he gave an answer about like you know,

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 2>the people green lighting the movies, like maybe you know,

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 2>they don't exactly know what works or not. But he

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:16.440
<v Speaker 2>also pointed out that a big issue has been this

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 2>need for IP intellectual property over the past ten years

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 2>or so, and we all see it. If you know it,

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.400
<v Speaker 2>go see any movies you see it. It's like things

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 2>like Battleship the movie got made, and he points out,

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 2>like why was the game Battleship? Why did that? There

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 2>was no storytelling in that movie. But people just executives

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 2>just think we need IP to make something because they're

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 2>pulling from well, the Marvel movies were successful and and

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 2>that's all this known IP. And he made the point like, well,

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 2>what do we consider IP, Like he brought up John Hughes.

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 2>He said, the IP of the brilliance of John Hughes'

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 2>movies is like sixteen Candles was the known IP of

0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 2>what it's like for a girl to turn sixteen, or

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Ferris Bueller's Day Off was the IP of you know,

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 2>kids skipping a day of school.

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Twenty half of age stories first love that that too

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>is incredible intellectual property and.

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 2>That has been lost. And I think he was so right.

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, he mentioned old school. The idea there is

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 2>what if you could go back to your college days

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 2>and now? And I just wanted to talk about it

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 2>a minute because I saw, like the Hollywood Reporter posted

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 2>on Instagram just one of the quotes he said where

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 2>he kind of said, do people you know, people want

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 2>to laugh and people want to be funny, and that

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of was construed into people in the comments. He

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 2>was saying, people want to laugh and we just have

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 2>to give them better material. So I thought his answer

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 2>was brilliant. You said you'd separately seen this clip. What

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 2>did you think?

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Well, And to further your point, what he said about

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the intellectual property is that the executives making the decisions

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 1>on movies are searching and seeking out intellectual property because

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 1>they're hiding behind it. They are just protecting their jobs

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 1>because then they can say, well, look, battleship failed. It

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>was a colossal failure at the box office, but we

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>had the intellectual property, you know, we used it. So

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>it is basically them playing it safe. Executives playing it

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>safe so they protect their jobs and they're not taking

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>risks like old school, like Ferris Bueller's day Off, like

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>all those.

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 2>All and he's signed with empathy. He said, I understand

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 2>it people, you know, they don't want to lose their job.

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 2>But I think that's totally true. If you say, well, yeah,

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 2>the movie was a failure, but like I followed the

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 2>intellectual property model, then you're going to be okay. The

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 2>problem there is that overall the company goes into decline

0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 2>and the industry goes into decline. But I saw it

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 2>at CBS too. It's people like just wanting to get

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 2>to their retirement, like standing on the deck of the

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 2>ship as it is sinking and hoping that they can

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 2>just make it to shore before it does, and it

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 2>ultimately hurts so many more people.

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I think you have this idea again that the people

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>above you are in it to win it just like

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 1>you are, like to be creative and to be innovative,

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>to really push the envelope, and they're not.

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 2>They're not. They're not. Most of That's what I meant

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 2>by falling up earlier. It is the rare executive that

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 2>has gotten there because they are a creative visionary. But

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 2>that rare standout of a person makes people think that

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.680
<v Speaker 2>that human is in every job, and they're not. So

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 2>many of those people have just fallen up. We're just

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 2>made the decisions, like Ben Swannes is saying, of like

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:22.240
<v Speaker 2>not ruffled too many feathers, and so they keep getting promoted.

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:28.839
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, recent history is showing probably what he's kind of

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>revolting against, and that is Barbie did incredibly well. Heavy Ip, Deadpool,

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Wolverine are rated R. These are rated R movies.

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:41.320
<v Speaker 2>By the way, Twisters it was a kind of a sequel.

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's like, man, it's like, but there's got

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 1>to be room in the Jennifer Lawrence and Glenn pal

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 1>also had some movies come out that were kind of independent.

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 1>They weren't intellectual property, and they were good comedies.

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 2>The Fall, Hard Feelings and Anyone but.

0:34:56.520 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 1>You the Fall Guy intellectual property. So you know, I

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 1>don't know if there's a rhyme or reason, but what

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 1>he's saying is the reason they're choosing. If we have

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:08.239
<v Speaker 1>two great scripts, two great ideas, we're going to choose

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 1>intellectual property because we can hide behind that. We're not

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:15.280
<v Speaker 1>going to take a flyer on this. And we're hearing

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:17.239
<v Speaker 1>more and more of these stories about you know, a

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>jet Appatau show or Ben Still or whatever, and these

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 1>shows are not getting greenlit and not getting picked up.

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 1>These executives are not taking it for me.

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Like what I would have added to what Vince said

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:30.360
<v Speaker 2>is is what you just said. I think the issue

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 2>is a lack of risk taking, and that lack of

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 2>risk taking is coming from people being afraid to lose

0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 2>their jobs. But like Barbie, yes there was IP there,

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 2>but it was written in such an unexpected way he

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:48.319
<v Speaker 2>did with it, so yeah. Or Oppenheimer, well there's that

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:51.399
<v Speaker 2>he's a known person. But like the way Christopher Nolan

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 2>made that movie anyone but you. The Glenn Powell Sidney

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Sweeney movie is loosely based on Shakespeare's Much Ado about Nothing,

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 2>So like all these things actually did have what you

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 2>might call IP, but they did it in a new

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:06.959
<v Speaker 2>and fun way. And that's the thing is I think

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 2>that it's like, Okay, do it based on IP, but

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 2>be risk taking with it, like I think Deadpool has

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 2>done so well because Ryan Reynolds just so leaned into

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:18.800
<v Speaker 2>like this is actually going to be the most intense

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 2>rated R movie, like it's not a superhero movie for

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 2>the family, and so I wish the risks were taken more.

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 2>But both vincevonn and Sabrina Carpenter are talking about the

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 2>same thing, which is we need to get back to

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:33.799
<v Speaker 2>risk taking and creativity. Because what I can tell you

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 2>is that every movie and every song that's like ever

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 2>touched anybody came from people. It came from something that

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 2>people like connected to in their hearts. It didn't come

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 2>from like, oh, I played the ship Battleship or I

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:51.359
<v Speaker 2>played the game Battleship as a kid. It didn't come

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 2>from like like Barbie wasn't big because it was like,

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 2>oh I played with a Barbie as a kid. It

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 2>was big because of the statements that made about women

0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 2>and how women related to the moments and the movie

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:03.279
<v Speaker 2>like The Bachelor. I don't know. I guess you could

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 2>argue the ip there is everybody wants to find love,

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:06.279
<v Speaker 2>everybody wants to get married.

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the oldest story in the book. We all

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>want love, we all want to belong, we all want

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 1>to be a part of something special and watch it.

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 2>But people connected to the shower and I think The

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:19.359
<v Speaker 2>problem I'm saying is soulless movies are being made. It's

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 2>not really about where you get the idea. It's like,

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 2>is the movie a good movie or is it just

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:26.319
<v Speaker 2>a soulless movie that somebody made because they thought, well,

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 2>we have this intellectual property, and if we just check

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:30.359
<v Speaker 2>these boxes and just bam out a script and throw

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot of money at the action sequences, well then

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a box officer.

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:36.720
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's funny and you mentioned television, and there's

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:40.239
<v Speaker 1>so many stories of great art that nobody wanted to do.

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Survivor No one wanted to touch that. With a thousand

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:47.399
<v Speaker 1>foot poll, it's the longest running, most successful reality show

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 1>on TV bar none. It was on a year or

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 1>so before The Bachelor. It went around over and over

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and over and Barnette finding was.

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Like he was pitching it and no one wanted to

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:57.800
<v Speaker 2>really I want.

0:37:57.640 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 1>To touch it. Mark Burnette's finally like, fine, I'm just

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:01.600
<v Speaker 1>going to buy the I'm on CBS, and they did.

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.959
<v Speaker 1>The Bachelor was passed around, you know, all over town,

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.400
<v Speaker 1>dancing with the stars. I remember being in the in

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the in the control room when they were talking about

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:13.840
<v Speaker 1>this dancing show. Nobody wanted it. It went around to every network,

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 1>everybody passed. It's that is a story oldest time. But

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 1>great art often is kind of misunderstood and then it's

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 1>hard to find. But I think art is suffering right now.

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 1>It really is with whether it's the music industry, whether

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 1>it's movies, whether it's television. Everybody's looking for a correction

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>and nobody's found it yet. No one's kind of figured

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 1>out the way. I think the strike obviously hurt us.

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 1>And there's finally we went to the movies, and we

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 1>went to Deadpool the other night, and we finally saw

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 1>several very interesting movies coming up and like Wicked intellectual Property,

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's coming up, Beetlejuice, intellectual property, that's coming up.

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:53.399
<v Speaker 2>Although Vince Vaughn did say he was like, I think

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:56.440
<v Speaker 2>we're heading towards a turn and feels like I agree,

0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 2>it feels like it. I feel hopeful. I think that

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:02.920
<v Speaker 2>because I think actually what's helped is that Deadpool, aside

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:07.280
<v Speaker 2>the past couple Marvel movies have not hit that number

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:09.799
<v Speaker 2>in the same way. Now, granted they just pulled Robert

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Downey Junior to now play Doctor Doom, so they're still

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 2>trying to like kind of reinvent the Marvel movie thing

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 2>and reinvigorate it because it's such a cash cow. But

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:19.879
<v Speaker 2>I do think that those signs of audience fatigue will

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 2>hopefully bring like some of you know, it's like everything

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 2>old becomes new again. Try the rom com again. You know,

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 2>we all want to see a rom com, so we'll see.

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 2>But I just thought Vince Vaughn probably put it better

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 2>than anybody I've heard.

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Saying eliquent by the way, I was kind of bombed

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 1>a that anybody gave him grief for that. Like, go

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 1>listen to the interview, which nobody does anymore, but go

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 1>listen to what he said. He was very articulate, very eloquent.

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I've never heard Vince Vaughn actually speak from the heart

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:50.360
<v Speaker 1>like that, and I really enjoyed his insight. It was

0:39:50.480 --> 0:40:06.839
<v Speaker 1>really fantastic to listen to speaking of success and intellectual

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>property the Olympics.

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 2>What's the intellectual property of the Olympics.

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Those rings, No, the Olympic IOC, the International Olympic Committee. There,

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 1>it's killing it. I was I was very interested. I

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 1>was looking up the ratings. The ratings are soaring, they

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:27.400
<v Speaker 1>are smashing records. And I was wondering how well this

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 1>would do because I used to dislike the Olympics when

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 1>they were overseas because you would just go to NBC

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:38.320
<v Speaker 1>at night and they would do their primetime coverage and

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:40.319
<v Speaker 1>you would only get what they got. So it's like

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:43.319
<v Speaker 1>this slow trickle. There's a thousand sports going on and

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>you just got what they wanted you to see. Well,

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 1>now we're kind of in this new modern era where

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 1>we're really drinking from a fire hydrant. It's almost too much,

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 1>and I was thinking, is it too broad? We're on USA,

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:57.839
<v Speaker 1>we're on TNT, we're on Peacock, we're on NBC, We're

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>on CNBC and MSNBC. There's sports everywhere. You turn on

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.840
<v Speaker 1>YouTube TV and there's like that. It's just so much.

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:07.319
<v Speaker 1>It's an assault on the census. So I thought, are

0:41:07.360 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 1>we so scattered? And then Mike Tarico, who is phenomenal,

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 1>he's a legend, and he is hosting for NBC this

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 1>year and a great choice to host the primetime coverage,

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and he's really doing a good job. And NBC's still

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 1>they're still They've done a brilliant job of somehow making

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>it fresh at night even though all the sports are

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.200
<v Speaker 1>taking place during the day here in America.

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 2>What about Mike Trica? What do you like?

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:31.440
<v Speaker 1>You they've just done it. They just do a good

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 1>job of I've watched a lot of this stuff during

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:35.879
<v Speaker 1>the day because that's the other thing is, so back

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 1>in the day, you would never see what's going on

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the day in France, you know,

0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:43.440
<v Speaker 1>primetime there, so we wouldn't know. Like maybe you could

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>see it eventually on the computer and stuff as things

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 1>were coming out, but you didn't get to see it

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 1>till at night. So say Carl Lewis won the one

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 1>hundred meter dash, he's the fastest man in the world,

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 1>or maybe the long jump, you would see that at

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>seven o'clock tonight when NBC decided to show it. Same

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 1>thing with you know some owe Biles and our gymnastics team.

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I watch them during the day, but somehow they repackaged

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 1>it and made it fresh at night as well.

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 2>They do. You just think they're doing a good job.

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I know, I think they've done a fabulous job.

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 2>I haven't been watching it as intently as you because sports.

0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 2>But what I do love is when sports get emotional

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 2>and the Olympics. That's the Olympics. I mean, when you

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 2>see someone who's been working so long, the fact that

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 2>it's every four years they've come here to like make

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:33.800
<v Speaker 2>their dreams come true. When it is you know, typically

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people you've never heard of before and

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:38.680
<v Speaker 2>then this is their moment, you know their lives are

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 2>going to change. And the fact that we can come

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:44.879
<v Speaker 2>together and even though to be honest, I've i haven't

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:49.280
<v Speaker 2>felt as much unity as I've wanted, but like support

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:51.919
<v Speaker 2>each other as a country. I think the controversy around

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:54.719
<v Speaker 2>the opening ceremonies put a bit of a stain on

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 2>like the unity feeling of it. But still it's like

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 2>we're coming together pride in America, like we need this

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 2>right now. I mean, I love America. I'm so grateful

0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:08.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm from America and to see people champions hoist up

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 2>the flag and be proud is definitely something that we

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:16.440
<v Speaker 2>need right now. I think just today, as we're recording this,

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 2>we had just watched Gabby Thomas, our fellow Austin resident

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 2>graduate of UT I know she's originally from Atlanta, but

0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:25.839
<v Speaker 2>she lives here in Texas. Now just kill it in

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 2>am I getting this right babe. The two hundred meter dash. Yeah, absolutely.

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what event I'm watching, but I do

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:33.279
<v Speaker 2>know that I love seeing her pull ahead of the

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:36.359
<v Speaker 2>pack and then like cry and be joyful and see

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 2>her family and hold up the flag and.

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Boss Harvard grad.

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, she's gorgeous, smart athletic. Like I just

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 2>tope her career skyrockets from here. And I know she's

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:51.000
<v Speaker 2>already doing very well, but what an achiever, what an

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:52.560
<v Speaker 2>all star. Congrats to Gabby.

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I love watching her and she's she's been the darling

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:56.759
<v Speaker 1>of our tracting. We're you know they It's one of

0:43:56.800 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>those things we there is. The thing about sports is

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.560
<v Speaker 1>interesting is there's the expectations and in track and field

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:05.360
<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about the one hundred meter dash and

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:07.719
<v Speaker 1>if y'all watch it the other night, the American one

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 1>and I mean Jerry Seinfeld actually has a good bit

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:15.400
<v Speaker 1>that's resurfaced where he's like the difference at the Olympics

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:19.360
<v Speaker 1>where you're Mount Rushmore immortalized, your a legend and he

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of like there's a nose, right, he sticks this

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:24.799
<v Speaker 1>legend and he pulls his head back forgotten never heard

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:29.640
<v Speaker 1>of meaning milliseconds can separate someone from the greatest achievement

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 1>in the history of sports and someone who's obsolete. It's

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:37.279
<v Speaker 1>like that that amount, that razor thin edge is fascinating

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:37.760
<v Speaker 1>to watch.

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Well. The level of competition I've also seen going around

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 2>on like Instagram and stuff the past couple days, people

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 2>comparing footage from decades ago versus now, Like how much

0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:51.280
<v Speaker 2>more athletic people are now, how much more they're doing

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 2>in their sport is just wild. The level of achievement

0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 2>and the level of competition.

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 1>When they have the side by side swimming from like

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, the thirties or whatever to work.

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:03.799
<v Speaker 2>The gymnastics basically decades ago, they're just kind of like

0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:06.640
<v Speaker 2>doing a flip and now you look at Simone Biles

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:08.200
<v Speaker 2>is doing seventeen flips.

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:10.520
<v Speaker 1>If you saw what Nadia comany Each did or even

0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Mary lou Rettin was at ninety four Olympics in La

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 1>it just doesn't compare to what Simone Bials and those

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:17.279
<v Speaker 1>ladies did.

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Can I say something that's a little bit sad, but well,

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 2>one thing that's put in perspective for me is how

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:26.880
<v Speaker 2>trash our healthcare system and like the food that we

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:30.799
<v Speaker 2>get for normal people are not is now because when

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 2>you see these Olympians, you realize how fit we all

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:37.360
<v Speaker 2>could be. Like, the reason they're in such great shape

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 2>now is the advance of research and science and technology

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 2>and awareness of what does well for the human body. Right,

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 2>But like, the average American is so much less healthy

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:48.160
<v Speaker 2>than they were all those decades ago. Yea, Like our

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Olympians are in better shape, but our average American is

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 2>in worse shape. So anyway, that's just like literally kind

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:57.080
<v Speaker 2>of a side depressing note and a reminder to eat

0:45:57.200 --> 0:46:00.320
<v Speaker 2>naturally and get out and walk outside, every buddy.

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:03.320
<v Speaker 1>The stories. A couple of stories that stood out to

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 1>me that aren't that we're kind of off the front

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:10.680
<v Speaker 1>pages are women's rugby team I've fallen in love with.

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I started watching the seven on seven rugby, which is

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 1>so fun to watch, but we won a gold medal

0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:18.759
<v Speaker 1>and it was they are They were so fun and

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I've been following a couple of them on social media

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and they are just cracking me up. Speaking of Harvard grads,

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 1>this thirty one year old Harvard grad who won the

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:33.960
<v Speaker 1>gold medal in US in open road cycling. Her name

0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:39.879
<v Speaker 1>is Kristin Faulkner, who didn't grow up cycling. She moved

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:41.880
<v Speaker 1>to New York and she grew up in the outdoors

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and just wanted to pick it up. So she was

0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 1>cycling around Central Park. Wasn't even like meant to be

0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:49.920
<v Speaker 1>in this, but whoever was going to ride for us

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:56.239
<v Speaker 1>backed out. She got in and destroyed the competition, made

0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:58.799
<v Speaker 1>this late move at the end and just took off

0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:03.279
<v Speaker 1>from the most heralded cyclists in the world, you know,

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:05.839
<v Speaker 1>the Dutch, the French, the Italians, the people that are

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:09.960
<v Speaker 1>known for cycling. And this American woman absolutely pulled away

0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 1>in the gutsiest performance and just destroyed the field. And

0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:16.880
<v Speaker 1>she is what a crazy story. She grew up in

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:19.839
<v Speaker 1>like Alaska, then went and then she moved to San

0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Francisco because she was in a financial district and working

0:47:23.640 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 1>as a financial analyst. Just a wild story.

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:27.799
<v Speaker 2>Well again, that's what's cool about the Olympics, right is

0:47:27.960 --> 0:47:30.600
<v Speaker 2>anybody do something else? I know? And it is I

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 2>have loved the NBC has done some incredible little like

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:38.799
<v Speaker 2>mini bio like mini biography videos. Yes on them. And

0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:41.880
<v Speaker 2>you see you know a guy who's like literally working

0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:44.360
<v Speaker 2>a day job and he like a remote I don't know,

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 2>he's a job in marketing, or something, and he's like,

0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:47.799
<v Speaker 2>and then I train at night for the Olympics.

0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:51.800
<v Speaker 1>It's so impressive what these people are sponsored by other people.

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 2>So okay, if you if it was like Chris, you

0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:57.680
<v Speaker 2>need to pick a sport tomorrow to try to become

0:47:57.719 --> 0:47:59.040
<v Speaker 2>an Olympian in what do you think you have the

0:47:59.040 --> 0:47:59.719
<v Speaker 2>best chance at.

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm the best chance at soccer?

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Are there soccer Olympics?

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Are they part of this?

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:06.680
<v Speaker 1>The men got knocked out, Yeah, the US men got

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 1>knocked out. The women the women, uh just moved on today.

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:12.440
<v Speaker 1>We're taping this on Tuesday, and the women just advanced

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:13.760
<v Speaker 1>big running Germany.

0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Overall. Are our gals doing better from America? I've heard

0:48:17.239 --> 0:48:20.560
<v Speaker 2>more about obviously our women's gymnastics team. Congrats to them

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:25.279
<v Speaker 2>killing it ladies. And then like in the pool DECKI yeah, yeah,

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 2>there's that one. No, No, I'm trying to think I've

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:29.880
<v Speaker 2>heard a lot more. Well, I mean with the pommel

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:30.920
<v Speaker 2>horse guy, he crushed it.

0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:34.080
<v Speaker 1>His life is said. I love the people whose lives

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:35.959
<v Speaker 1>are literally changing as you see.

0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes. Well, and that's a beautiful thing about social media

0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 2>is that you know, in years past, the few and

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:45.319
<v Speaker 2>far between Olympians would get like a Wheaties box cover

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:47.879
<v Speaker 2>and they make some money. But social media has made

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:51.440
<v Speaker 2>it so that these Olympians can get true careers on

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:55.799
<v Speaker 2>Instagram or whatever out of working so hard for this achievement.

0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:59.400
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I've definitely can think of more like female

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 2>stories out of the Olympics and Mail well, I.

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Mean one of the biggest stories in the pool of

0:49:03.400 --> 0:49:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the Alma Shan. But you know what's interesting is a

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:07.359
<v Speaker 1>lot of these French, a lot of these people though

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about our American well, they basically are American.

0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:12.879
<v Speaker 2>Uh Like he went to school in the Arizona right.

0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he went to Arizona State and he trained with

0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Michael Phelps and Bowman, the kid who.

0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Are eltally surprising myself with my amount of not right now.

0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:22.040
<v Speaker 2>I think it's just because of social media.

0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:23.799
<v Speaker 1>You watched pole vaul lesson by the way, did you

0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:27.000
<v Speaker 1>see the gentleman Unfortunately, and we know he's a gentleman

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 1>that lost the pole vault because his manhood.

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 2>I think we can say penis. The headlines said his

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:38.400
<v Speaker 2>man tackle. That that's a redneck word for penis. His

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:42.760
<v Speaker 2>penis knocked him out. He lost literally he knocked Yeah, yeah,

0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:44.799
<v Speaker 2>well that you know if you're going to go out,

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:46.880
<v Speaker 2>at least didn't just fall into face. That's that's the

0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:48.440
<v Speaker 2>way that's going to get people talking in a good way.

0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think he's going to get lost. He'll get

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:52.919
<v Speaker 1>some interesting endorsements after this is over. But the young

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:53.319
<v Speaker 1>man who.

0:49:53.280 --> 0:49:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Won, there's always stories about the hookups.

0:49:55.160 --> 0:49:59.120
<v Speaker 1>And he broke his own world record. Armand du plantis Swedish.

0:49:59.200 --> 0:50:01.759
<v Speaker 1>He won for Sweden last night. His parents are the

0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:05.760
<v Speaker 1>coaches at LSU, ran track at LSU. He's at LSU,

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 1>and he went over and did an interview. He sounds

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:10.759
<v Speaker 1>more redneck and American than I do. And a lot

0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:13.320
<v Speaker 1>of what's cool is you see a lot of these women,

0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:16.040
<v Speaker 1>like we were watching track today, they all race against

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:18.359
<v Speaker 1>each other at American colleges. You know, most of them

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:20.919
<v Speaker 1>are at American universities, and it's which is really cool.

0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:25.360
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of Austin ut swimmers, runners from the

0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:27.719
<v Speaker 1>University of Texas and the Olympics, so it's kind of

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.960
<v Speaker 1>fun to keep up with where everybody's from. But over all,

0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:33.800
<v Speaker 1>the Olympics, I think, you know, look, I know the

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:38.359
<v Speaker 1>opening ceremonies were politically a disaster and they really missed

0:50:38.400 --> 0:50:40.680
<v Speaker 1>the mark. But they're French. What do you expect?

0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the French are a little more naked than

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:44.960
<v Speaker 2>the rest of By the way, I'm not like defending it.

0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I know it was silly and it missed the mark,

0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:48.400
<v Speaker 1>and I think.

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:51.600
<v Speaker 2>It missed the mark. And I've talked to my friends

0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:53.359
<v Speaker 2>about it. We'd actually came up on the girls trip,

0:50:53.680 --> 0:50:55.600
<v Speaker 2>and some people were offended by it, and someoneed and

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:58.880
<v Speaker 2>some people were very offended by it. I just think, ultimately,

0:50:59.680 --> 0:51:01.759
<v Speaker 2>like the French push the envelope more, and maybe this

0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:04.960
<v Speaker 2>wasn't the time to push the envelope, but like that's

0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 2>their culture.

0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I just I guess my final question why why?

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:10.839
<v Speaker 2>Because they're French, I.

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Know, but that's the thing. It's like, did you need it? Like?

0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Why? All right? I think overall, when you're on that

0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:20.040
<v Speaker 2>big literally on a world stage, it's better to just

0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:22.000
<v Speaker 2>keep it more neutral.

0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:24.799
<v Speaker 1>I'll be interested to see what we do in four years,

0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:26.239
<v Speaker 1>because it's coming to Los Angeles.

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I know they've been claiming to be redoing LAX for

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know how Tommy Cruz. Guess what, guys,

0:51:31.080 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 2>lax looks no different.

0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Little Tommy Cruise is going to do some kind of

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:36.560
<v Speaker 1>a stunt in the closing ceremonies for France. Yeah, for

0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:39.319
<v Speaker 1>in France because it's kind of the there's always that

0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:42.239
<v Speaker 1>traditional hand off to Los Ange, hand off to the

0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 1>next site of it.

0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 2>Is that why Tom Cruise is doing it. So Tom

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Cruise is going to catapult into America doing the Olympics.

0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:52.560
<v Speaker 1>There's always a traditional handing over of the flame, handing

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:55.600
<v Speaker 1>over something where they will dim the flame in Paris

0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:58.719
<v Speaker 1>and it will move to Los Angeles and I'll be honestly, what.

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I thought this was was I thought that it was

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:03.800
<v Speaker 2>some kind of promo for Mission Impossible, for the Mission

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:05.799
<v Speaker 2>Impossible that was supposed to come out this summer, but

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:07.799
<v Speaker 2>that has ultimately been delayed. But I thought that Tom

0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:09.160
<v Speaker 2>was just like, I'll just do this stuff.

0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:12.280
<v Speaker 1>We're tying this into Hollywood. This is a welcome to America.

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood is next this.

0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's cool. I love when sports and entertainment cross.

0:52:16.680 --> 0:52:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it'll be cool. They hopefully they will not

0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:22.239
<v Speaker 1>miss the mark, especially since Tom Cruise is doing some

0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:24.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of crazy stunt right Oh, I can't wait to

0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:28.160
<v Speaker 1>see what he does. But overall, take away the opening

0:52:28.320 --> 0:52:32.240
<v Speaker 1>ceremonies very successful Olympic Games. It's been fun to watch,

0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:35.520
<v Speaker 1>fun to dive in, fun to just cheer for these

0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:37.960
<v Speaker 1>people from all walks of life, from all corners of

0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:46.360
<v Speaker 1>our great country.

0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Now, of course, there have been the headlines about the

0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:55.040
<v Speaker 2>hookups in the Olympic village. Yes, people were joking, like,

0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:57.600
<v Speaker 2>are the cardboard beds they had made gonna like hold

0:52:57.680 --> 0:53:01.600
<v Speaker 2>up for the hookups. I saw some of the athletes

0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:03.560
<v Speaker 2>jumping on the beds to test them. I think it

0:53:03.600 --> 0:53:05.960
<v Speaker 2>was the women's rugby team. The beds seemed very solid.

0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:11.560
<v Speaker 1>The Paraguayan swimmer got sent home because she's I guess

0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:18.360
<v Speaker 1>been a little too active. Yes, and the Paraguayan contingent

0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:22.359
<v Speaker 1>they sent her home. It wasn't the Olympic committee Paraguay there.

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Their Olympic committee sent her home. She's quite pretty, very

0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:28.000
<v Speaker 1>beautiful model.

0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:31.399
<v Speaker 2>And oh my gosh, I'm reading the headline kicked out

0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:35.759
<v Speaker 2>of Olympic village first inappropriate behavior. Yes, the twenty year

0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:38.759
<v Speaker 2>old athlete who retired from the sport after she had

0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:41.400
<v Speaker 2>failed to advance out of her heat was asked to

0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:44.799
<v Speaker 2>leave for creating an inappropriate environment.

0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Shouldn't these people be hooking up?

0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:50.680
<v Speaker 2>These are the best I fully support it.

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:55.040
<v Speaker 1>These are the most beautiful athletic They are in peak performance,

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the peak time of their lives. Let them procreate.

0:53:57.800 --> 0:53:59.919
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, okay. A separate report, The Daily Mail said

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:04.360
<v Speaker 2>she was deemed a distraction for wearing skimpy clothing and

0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:07.239
<v Speaker 2>socializing with other athletes. Well, first of all, some of

0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:09.480
<v Speaker 2>the uniforms are skimpy. So what do you mean was

0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:11.640
<v Speaker 2>she just in her uniform? Like I mean, if you

0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:14.520
<v Speaker 2>walked around in your beach volleyball custome, if you're in

0:54:14.560 --> 0:54:17.840
<v Speaker 2>your men's speedo, aren't you in skimpy clothing? And I

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:22.280
<v Speaker 2>agree with you. These are beautiful, incredibly fit people, probably

0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:24.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot of them single, and this is their work.

0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:27.120
<v Speaker 2>Where do you expect them to meet people? They could

0:54:27.120 --> 0:54:28.239
<v Speaker 2>find marriages out of this.

0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I would love to see statistics as people leave and

0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:34.400
<v Speaker 1>hear some stories. Are there any Olympic babies coming out

0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 1>of the village.

0:54:35.360 --> 0:54:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if there ever have been before. But

0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:38.840
<v Speaker 2>this is nothing new. There's always been hookups in the

0:54:38.840 --> 0:54:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Olympic village.

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:41.800
<v Speaker 1>They started providing condoms in the village at one of

0:54:41.800 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the Olympics and these look, these people have got it.

0:54:44.719 --> 0:54:45.120
<v Speaker 2>Relax.

0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:47.919
<v Speaker 1>These people are sent up and as soon as they're done,

0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:51.919
<v Speaker 1>it's like time to party. One other baller guy who

0:54:52.080 --> 0:54:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's going to become famous because I

0:54:54.400 --> 0:54:58.240
<v Speaker 1>think he's probably in hiding now. The Turkish pistol shooters,

0:54:58.320 --> 0:54:59.959
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>The joke was is this just a hip man they

0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:03.200
<v Speaker 2>pulled off the street. That was a joke.

0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:05.880
<v Speaker 1>It's like low key. They were like, good job finishing second,

0:55:05.960 --> 0:55:08.080
<v Speaker 1>getting the silver because they didn't want to bring too

0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:11.040
<v Speaker 1>much attention to the guy. So when you're shooting pistols,

0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:14.840
<v Speaker 1>you are usually you have all these contraptions and glasses

0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and sights and optics and so you can shoot. He

0:55:18.600 --> 0:55:22.120
<v Speaker 1>walked in nothing as you would call it, as the

0:55:22.200 --> 0:55:24.960
<v Speaker 1>kids would call it, raw dog. He raw dogged the Olympics,

0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:28.480
<v Speaker 1>just held his pistol one hand. No, he had glasses on,

0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:30.320
<v Speaker 1>but they were just for his eyesight. They weren't special

0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:32.760
<v Speaker 1>and just was a champ.

0:55:33.320 --> 0:55:35.600
<v Speaker 2>I saw on Instagram that he's a cat and someone said,

0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:38.239
<v Speaker 2>nobody better ever hurt this cat, or we're gonna have

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:41.839
<v Speaker 2>a Turkish John Wick on our hands. Seriously, these are

0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:45.600
<v Speaker 2>the fun stories that we love. And speaking of hooking

0:55:45.680 --> 0:55:49.680
<v Speaker 2>up with your fellow athletes, our last headline of this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>So CBS does an article about how the new place

0:55:55.920 --> 0:55:58.880
<v Speaker 2>to meet people like they're dubbing it a new trend

0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:02.839
<v Speaker 2>is inn' run clubs, and Chris and I were just

0:56:02.880 --> 0:56:05.440
<v Speaker 2>honestly kind of laughing about this. On the one hand,

0:56:05.560 --> 0:56:10.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad this is happening. In the article they say that,

0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:14.480
<v Speaker 2>you know it's a new trend why more single people

0:56:14.560 --> 0:56:19.880
<v Speaker 2>are ditching online dating and turning to running clubs. Tired

0:56:19.920 --> 0:56:22.760
<v Speaker 2>of spending their days swiping on dating apps, single people

0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:25.600
<v Speaker 2>across the country are now hitting the pavement and joining

0:56:25.719 --> 0:56:30.000
<v Speaker 2>run clubs as a fresh way to meet others. On

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:32.719
<v Speaker 2>the one hand, so glad this is happening. I think

0:56:32.840 --> 0:56:35.520
<v Speaker 2>dating apps have had their moment, and they've proven that

0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:38.080
<v Speaker 2>they are not very good. Like all the studies that

0:56:38.120 --> 0:56:41.000
<v Speaker 2>I see are like, people are more miserable than ever

0:56:41.040 --> 0:56:45.200
<v Speaker 2>with dating. Dating apps are not good. They encourage like

0:56:45.840 --> 0:56:47.719
<v Speaker 2>It means that if one little thing goes wrong in

0:56:47.719 --> 0:56:50.040
<v Speaker 2>a relationship, at the touch of a swipe, you can

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:52.279
<v Speaker 2>see what else is out there. People aren't forced to

0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:55.920
<v Speaker 2>work at things. It's depressing. It's all about judging a

0:56:55.960 --> 0:56:58.000
<v Speaker 2>book by its cover. I'm not a dating app fan.

0:56:58.360 --> 0:57:00.680
<v Speaker 2>I think they've had their chance and have proven to

0:57:00.719 --> 0:57:02.879
<v Speaker 2>not be very great. I know a few people who

0:57:02.880 --> 0:57:05.640
<v Speaker 2>have met mostly on Hinge for some reason shout out

0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:10.320
<v Speaker 2>to Hinge, but overall I know more disaster stories than dream.

0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Stories or just hook up stories. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just think this is funny though, because they're

0:57:16.800 --> 0:57:19.800
<v Speaker 2>acting like it's new, right, Like did.

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<v Speaker 1>You just invent meeting people in person? Idiot reminds me,

0:57:24.560 --> 0:57:26.320
<v Speaker 1>you know what it's giving. It's giving The girl who

0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:29.920
<v Speaker 1>during the pandemic said she invented a drink where you

0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:32.200
<v Speaker 1>put vodka and soda together with limes.

0:57:32.280 --> 0:57:35.680
<v Speaker 2>She called it a video. She called it blackout water,

0:57:35.720 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 2>and it was someone's like, you invented.

0:57:37.400 --> 0:57:41.800
<v Speaker 1>A vodcast, So you these people have invented meeting.

0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Just dating, but just literally dating.

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<v Speaker 1>So but while I just I really do believe in this,

0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:49.640
<v Speaker 1>and I really do believe this is a wonderful trend

0:57:49.680 --> 0:57:51.440
<v Speaker 1>that we are getting out of our phones and getting

0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:53.840
<v Speaker 1>back to real life and meeting people. And instead of

0:57:53.880 --> 0:57:56.440
<v Speaker 1>meeting someone at a bar where you are drinking blackout

0:57:56.440 --> 0:58:00.320
<v Speaker 1>water and it's dark and you're drinking, and I love

0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the positive daytime and meeting where you're seeing people being athletic,

0:58:06.440 --> 0:58:10.240
<v Speaker 1>being sober being. I love that and it's a very

0:58:10.280 --> 0:58:13.840
<v Speaker 1>safe space because and I was down in downtown Austin

0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:16.160
<v Speaker 1>at a meeting one night and I happen to be

0:58:16.200 --> 0:58:19.040
<v Speaker 1>at this place called the me Night Cat, and apparently

0:58:19.080 --> 0:58:22.280
<v Speaker 1>that's where they meet to go on this running club.

0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:22.920
<v Speaker 2>They meet at a bar.

0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I love that because what they do is they run,

0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:27.160
<v Speaker 1>then they end up back at the bar on the

0:58:27.360 --> 0:58:28.960
<v Speaker 1>a beer. So it's kind of both. It's kind of

0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:33.000
<v Speaker 1>cocktail hour and there's different levels of they Because the

0:58:33.080 --> 0:58:35.280
<v Speaker 1>lake is right there, Ladybird Lake that goes kind of

0:58:35.280 --> 0:58:38.919
<v Speaker 1>through downtown Austin. You can run and there's different there's

0:58:38.920 --> 0:58:41.000
<v Speaker 1>different mileages, so you can just run for a mile,

0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:42.680
<v Speaker 1>you can run for the three mile. There's like a

0:58:42.720 --> 0:58:45.120
<v Speaker 1>six mile loop for the more serious. And this is

0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:47.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of this kind of goes along with all the

0:58:47.440 --> 0:58:51.120
<v Speaker 1>walks and all these things. But there were hundreds of

0:58:51.320 --> 0:58:55.400
<v Speaker 1>people at this run, and I was sitting there watching it.

0:58:55.440 --> 0:58:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I quit caring about why I was there and started

0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 1>watching this, fascinated at these really attractive young men and

0:59:01.920 --> 0:59:05.400
<v Speaker 1>women getting off work and coming to run together and

0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:07.760
<v Speaker 1>all chatting and talking. And they went and ran, and

0:59:07.760 --> 0:59:09.360
<v Speaker 1>they all came back and settled in and had a

0:59:09.360 --> 0:59:12.200
<v Speaker 1>cold beer, and I'm like, what a wonderful creator.

0:59:14.640 --> 0:59:18.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, no, completely, look there, I'm on board. An

0:59:18.760 --> 0:59:21.120
<v Speaker 2>episode of Sex and the City comes to mind. Keep

0:59:21.120 --> 0:59:22.680
<v Speaker 2>in mind Sex and the City was in the early

0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:25.800
<v Speaker 2>two thousands. There's literally an episode where Miranda meets a

0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:28.680
<v Speaker 2>guy through her run club. Like that. This isn't new,

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:31.720
<v Speaker 2>it's not new, But again you agree, I'm glad it's happening.

0:59:31.760 --> 0:59:34.080
<v Speaker 1>It's really trending, which I'm happy about.

0:59:34.760 --> 0:59:37.480
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like how podcasts reinvented radios. I mean,

0:59:37.520 --> 0:59:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I saw a tweet not too long ago where someone

0:59:40.280 --> 0:59:44.360
<v Speaker 2>said I wish there was a live podcast where I

0:59:44.360 --> 0:59:47.000
<v Speaker 2>could get the news really quickly. And someone replied and said,

0:59:47.200 --> 0:59:50.000
<v Speaker 2>that is the radio. It already exists.

0:59:50.000 --> 0:59:52.600
<v Speaker 1>It's called local news.

0:59:52.840 --> 0:59:56.280
<v Speaker 2>But everything old becomes new again, And I agree, I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we are in a moment like between us

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like getting to this time now where we're

1:00:01.720 --> 1:00:04.880
<v Speaker 2>seeing how unhealthy it's been for people to grow up

1:00:04.920 --> 1:00:07.640
<v Speaker 2>with social media and for little kids to have screens

1:00:07.640 --> 1:00:11.919
<v Speaker 2>in their hands. You know, people are craving community, they're

1:00:11.960 --> 1:00:15.160
<v Speaker 2>craving things that we all loved years ago. Original movie

1:00:15.200 --> 1:00:17.960
<v Speaker 2>ideas going to do things together in person, not being

1:00:18.040 --> 1:00:21.560
<v Speaker 2>on a screen all the time. And absolutely it is

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<v Speaker 2>better to meet someone in this way. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>you can find love on a dating app, find love

1:00:26.560 --> 1:00:28.880
<v Speaker 2>however you can. Everybody has a different story. But do

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's more successful, more statistically likely for you

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<v Speaker 2>to find a good relationship through a communal activity. Absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>I do. And we've lost a lot of those communities,

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<v Speaker 2>like people have their online groups now, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>about my grandparents. They had such a community of people

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<v Speaker 2>through church, you know, through church, through like hanging out

1:00:51.760 --> 1:00:55.600
<v Speaker 2>with their friends were through church or like YMCAs used

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<v Speaker 2>to be a great place for people to go and meet.

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<v Speaker 2>I find especially because we know so many college age

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<v Speaker 2>kids through the kids. Like they have asked us before,

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<v Speaker 2>like how do you make friends after college? And the

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<v Speaker 2>advice I always give them is find an in person

1:01:09.520 --> 1:01:12.920
<v Speaker 2>activity and go do it consistently and wherever you move

1:01:12.960 --> 1:01:14.560
<v Speaker 2>to for your job, like you're going to make friends

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<v Speaker 2>through work, but also join a local run club, join

1:01:18.240 --> 1:01:21.919
<v Speaker 2>something where and go to it consistently, because you might

1:01:21.920 --> 1:01:23.600
<v Speaker 2>not make friends on the first time, but when you

1:01:23.600 --> 1:01:25.959
<v Speaker 2>start to become regular, that's how you meet people.

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<v Speaker 1>The toughest thing in meeting anybody is the icebreaker. What

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<v Speaker 1>is the commonality? What gets the conversation started. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>at a run club and you're just jogging, oh hey,

1:01:35.520 --> 1:01:37.200
<v Speaker 1>well you've been here, you already have a shared injus

1:01:37.360 --> 1:01:40.080
<v Speaker 1>you already have You already have the conversation starter, and

1:01:40.120 --> 1:01:42.120
<v Speaker 1>then if it's interesting, you can move on from that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're in a bowling league, softball, community, theater, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is, there's ways to turn your passion and your

1:01:50.560 --> 1:01:53.800
<v Speaker 1>interests into a way to meet people. If you are lonely,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are looking to meet somebody or whatever. It

1:01:57.320 --> 1:02:00.240
<v Speaker 1>is a great way to when you move and to

1:02:00.280 --> 1:02:02.280
<v Speaker 1>make friends. It didn't have to be a lover, right,

1:02:02.320 --> 1:02:04.720
<v Speaker 1>You can make friends that way. If you're a guy

1:02:04.800 --> 1:02:07.320
<v Speaker 1>and you just moved to Austin and you want to

1:02:07.320 --> 1:02:09.640
<v Speaker 1>meet other dudes, well go meet other dudes that do

1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:12.080
<v Speaker 1>what you do. There's paddle boarding, there's there's all.

1:02:11.960 --> 1:02:14.800
<v Speaker 2>These things I do, like a men's you know, baseball

1:02:14.840 --> 1:02:15.920
<v Speaker 2>team or something like that.

1:02:16.000 --> 1:02:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Get involved. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>The toughest thing they today you are.

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<v Speaker 1>But the toughest thing is the icebreaker. And that is

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<v Speaker 1>such a huge part of it. And that alleviates that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's one thing that apps our phones cannot overcome.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think don't be discouraged if on the first

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<v Speaker 2>time you don't make a friend, or if, like you know,

1:02:38.680 --> 1:02:40.880
<v Speaker 2>if some activity you try doesn't work out. I think

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<v Speaker 2>when I first moved to la I went to like

1:02:42.480 --> 1:02:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Missoo alumni events, and I just didn't really connect with

1:02:46.160 --> 1:02:49.120
<v Speaker 2>anybody at any of those. I don't probably honestly because

1:02:49.480 --> 1:02:50.800
<v Speaker 2>I think what they always did was meet up to

1:02:50.800 --> 1:02:52.800
<v Speaker 2>watch football games. And I was like, we have the

1:02:52.800 --> 1:02:55.520
<v Speaker 2>shared experience that we went to Miszoo, but we don't

1:02:55.520 --> 1:02:57.040
<v Speaker 2>have the shared experience that I want to be here

1:02:57.040 --> 1:03:00.560
<v Speaker 2>watching this football game. So that didn't work out for me.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, like I went to the same yoga

1:03:03.600 --> 1:03:05.400
<v Speaker 2>classes over and over again, and I kind of like

1:03:05.440 --> 1:03:08.200
<v Speaker 2>found friends that way. Definitely met people through work, but

1:03:08.240 --> 1:03:10.160
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get along with great with everybody at work.

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<v Speaker 2>So right all, you also have to know that, like,

1:03:12.680 --> 1:03:15.400
<v Speaker 2>not every relationship you pursue is going to be successful.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep trying anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to put yourself out there. As Lauren said,

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<v Speaker 1>not only do you have to go more than once

1:03:20.520 --> 1:03:22.600
<v Speaker 1>showing up once just standing in the corner and no

1:03:22.600 --> 1:03:24.640
<v Speaker 1>one talked to me. You also have to put yourself

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<v Speaker 1>out there, you know, walk around the club and like

1:03:27.600 --> 1:03:29.200
<v Speaker 1>again you have the ice breaker, just bea like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's my first time anything I need to know on

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<v Speaker 1>this run? How many times have you been here? Like boom,

1:03:33.520 --> 1:03:37.200
<v Speaker 1>you're in a conversation. It's very easy because everybody's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of disarmed because they're there for the same run.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. There's a great group in Austin if you're here

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<v Speaker 2>for women called No Girl Walks Alone. You and I

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<v Speaker 2>went and kind of surprised them at an event last year.

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<v Speaker 2>They meet every Wednesday at six thirty and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a walking club and they go and walk and like

1:03:52.560 --> 1:03:55.360
<v Speaker 2>chat and Hot Girl walks. Yeah, started out as a

1:03:55.360 --> 1:03:57.360
<v Speaker 2>trend called Hot Girl Walks. It's now called No Girl

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<v Speaker 2>Walks Alone. If you are here and want to check

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<v Speaker 2>it out, shout out to them. But yeah, I uh,

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<v Speaker 2>what things should what old things should become new again?

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<v Speaker 2>Anything come to mind to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean we've reinvented local news in.

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<v Speaker 2>Radio, walking, running people and media people as humans coming

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<v Speaker 2>together in a human way.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we also covered movies need to come back,

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<v Speaker 1>like so school.

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<v Speaker 2>Movies, everything old It's time for you to become new again.

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<v Speaker 2>We are ready to come together as a country and

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<v Speaker 2>be unified and hang out together in person and be

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<v Speaker 2>proud to be from America and go see a great

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<v Speaker 2>movie and watch sports and I love it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what a great way to end on that.

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<v Speaker 2>What an incredibly all encompassing way to I'm listen. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys for listening, and we will do it

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<v Speaker 1>again next time because we have a lot more to

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