Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren Zim coming to you from the
Speaker 1: home office in Austin, Texas. Hey, everybody, uh so excited
Speaker 1: to be back and talking to you today after what
Speaker 1: was a busy separated weekend from each other. Babe.
Speaker 2: I'm worried about you saying that because after we did
Speaker 2: the episodes with the divorce coach and Laura Wasserman divorce attorney,
Speaker 2: I had several people DM me and be like, but
Speaker 2: this doesn't mean you guys are getting a divorce, right,
Speaker 2: I feel like, so not have done?
Speaker 1: Ryan? What have we done? A Ryan interested?
Speaker 2: No, like said things to confuse people. No, you're not
Speaker 2: as poetic as Ryan.
Speaker 1: That's true, That's very true.
Speaker 2: But no, we're good just because we just always welcome
Speaker 2: all relationship discussions. So, no, we are not divorcing. And
Speaker 2: after you said busy separated weekend, no, no, no, we
Speaker 2: are not separating either.
Speaker 1: I also did a great episode coming up with a
Speaker 1: gut health doctor. Everything's fine there too, colonoscopy, all of it.
Speaker 1: I seriously go back and listen that. We had some
Speaker 1: great interviews and we kind of we did get on
Speaker 1: a tangent there. But one thing led to another when
Speaker 1: we had never heard about a divorce coach, and we
Speaker 1: dove into that, and then we had this amazing probably
Speaker 1: the foremost divorce lawyer on to talk about divorce. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you had if it was negative though, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: It was actually very positive. No.
Speaker 2: You know, I'd actually never talked to Laura Wasserman before,
Speaker 2: despite covering her celebrity divorce cases many times for Entertainment Tonight,
Speaker 2: and she has this reputation of being fierce in the courtroom,
Speaker 2: so I was so surprised by how chill and very
Speaker 2: positive about relationships. She was not jaded at all, just
Speaker 2: very empathetic about it all. And so I thought, well,
Speaker 2: that must be why she gets so much business, because
Speaker 2: she's going to be kind of this pitbull on your side,
Speaker 2: but also be really human about the process. And if
Speaker 2: you haven't listen to that episode, go give it a
Speaker 2: listen because you are getting a lot of free, very
Speaker 2: good divorce lawyer advice in that episode. I had people
Speaker 2: from et DM me and say, oh, wow, you guys
Speaker 2: had Laura Walser on, like she's a big deal.
Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, give those a listen, but no, these
Speaker 1: were very positive trips. But the reason I was bringing
Speaker 1: them up, we couldn't have had more different weekends. We
Speaker 1: did a one to eighty. You were on a girl's trip.
Speaker 2: That's what you mean by separated. We just literally weren't together.
Speaker 1: We weren't together because you had your annual girls trip,
Speaker 1: which is a rite of passage, and it is this
Speaker 1: amazing thing that you and your amazing group of women
Speaker 1: do your friends from college and I went on a
Speaker 1: very very boys trip.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know if i'd call it a write
Speaker 2: of passage, but it's a pact that we've made to
Speaker 2: every year together. And I've said this before, so I'm
Speaker 2: sorry if you're hearing me repeat myself. But I also
Speaker 2: can't say it enough. I think in this day and
Speaker 2: age of cell phones and social media, we all feel connected,
Speaker 2: but there is nothing like in person connection to fill
Speaker 2: your soul, to fill your emotional cup, to make unforgettable memories.
Speaker 2: And what my girlfriends and I did my sorority sisters.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Cap Alpha Theta for changing my life forever.
Speaker 2: We made an agreement. Right after college. We kind of
Speaker 2: had a lot of weddings and bachelorette parties that kept
Speaker 2: us all hanging out, and we still have those on occasion,
Speaker 2: but we made an agreement to every single year we
Speaker 2: were going to do a trip together, and every year
Speaker 2: we would change the location and nobody misses that trip,
Speaker 2: and nobody wants to miss that trip unless they're too
Speaker 2: pregnant or have just said a baby or sick or something.
Speaker 2: And so we do it every year, and we just
Speaker 2: we make more memories and laugh more and cry more
Speaker 2: in those two days then I do in a lot
Speaker 2: of other weeks of my year. We all look forward
Speaker 2: to it so much, and it just like brings us
Speaker 2: back to life in a lot of ways in times
Speaker 2: when like work and kids and stuff can make you
Speaker 2: very busy, and there's nothing like hanging out with your friends. Now,
Speaker 2: you on this weekend that I just finished. I loved
Speaker 2: that you decided to do this. You said, I'm going
Speaker 2: to have a boys trip, and you got together with
Speaker 2: our son Josh, with your nephews Hank and Sam, and
Speaker 2: with your brother Glenn, and you guys also cried a lot, right,
Speaker 2: we did it all.
Speaker 1: We shot guns. Okay, I went to by the way,
Speaker 1: If you're ever around Nacadoch's, Texas, which is where we were,
Speaker 1: East Texas. The best gun range in Texas, meadow Ridge
Speaker 1: gun Range and out it's meadow Ridge Outdoors. Not just guns,
Speaker 1: but it is awesome. Asked for my man Sam and
Speaker 1: Kimberly Harrison, but my godson and they put on a
Speaker 1: great show for us. Went to meadow Ridge. We shot guns.
Speaker 1: We got up the next morning and went bass fishing.
Speaker 1: My other godson, Hank Harrison. If you're ever in that area,
Speaker 1: double h look him up. He's a great guide. He's
Speaker 1: a bass fishing guide. He put us on the fish.
Speaker 1: We went bass fishing. So shotguns, bass fishing. We then
Speaker 1: went to like a pool hall honky Tnk. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Benita the honky Tonk there. Then the next morning
Speaker 1: we got up and played golf.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the core for you. Hunted, you fished,
Speaker 2: you honky tonked, and you golf.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So and it was a spectacular weekend.
Speaker 2: And again, how much did you share emotionally and cry?
Speaker 2: This is what's funny, talk about your fears and your stresses.
Speaker 1: And Laurne and I were sending each other videos as
Speaker 1: we often do when we're texting back and forth, how
Speaker 1: is your weekend, How is your weekend? What's going on?
Speaker 1: I would send videos of us shooting guns. You sent
Speaker 1: videos back of these different pods of women all in
Speaker 1: one room, twenty women all talking at the same time,
Speaker 1: having incredibly intense conversations. And she did a revolving little
Speaker 1: three sixty video of the room and it was just
Speaker 1: white wine and conversation.
Speaker 2: The activity is talking in What would our core for be.
Speaker 2: I guess our core forwardould be what we call tots
Speaker 2: and tench, which is totally intentional deep conversations. So tots
Speaker 2: and tench crying, laughing, and how many times did you
Speaker 2: cry this weekend? Like three? Really, it was all one
Speaker 2: conversation though honestly, everybody asked me about experience camps because
Speaker 2: it's coming up on me volunteering and experience camps again
Speaker 2: next week, and so I was just like talking about
Speaker 2: some of the kids that I volunteer that are in
Speaker 2: my bunk, and so that brought me to tears very quickly.
Speaker 2: But like you know, we're now at the life place
Speaker 2: where other member I was the first one of my
Speaker 2: friends to lose a parent, but now two more of
Speaker 2: my friends have and so it's like good for us
Speaker 2: to share on that. So I could cry talking about
Speaker 2: it now, but yeah, so I wanted to. I almost
Speaker 2: said the last of our core four would be drinking.
Speaker 2: Oh this makes us sense terrible.
Speaker 1: So Siue, you know you're sitting around, there was a
Speaker 1: fireplace going, and you have some good wine. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: all good.
Speaker 2: I mean actually, honestly on this trip we didn't do
Speaker 2: that much drinking. I think we were just like in
Speaker 2: the past, we've done like Cabo. We did last year,
Speaker 2: and Cabo lends itself more to like tequila shots. And
Speaker 2: this year we did upstate New York at a lake cabin, and.
Speaker 1: I like that y'all moving around geographically it's good.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, it's very enriching to always be
Speaker 2: in a new place because it kind of creates new
Speaker 2: situations to make memories out of. So we've made that
Speaker 2: part of the pact. But the lake cabin vibe was
Speaker 2: more like glass of wine by the fire and so
Speaker 2: it was just a bit more chill. We did like
Speaker 2: some you know, paddle boarding and boat stuff, and actually
Speaker 2: that was a really great reminder I think to all
Speaker 2: of us that you know, we when you surround yourself
Speaker 2: with the right friends. And I'm not like poopooing drinking.
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys know, I love a glass of
Speaker 2: wine as of late, very into Montrachet white bergishes. If
Speaker 2: you hadn't tried those yet, it's my new chardonnay is
Speaker 2: a mantrache. But it's a good sign when you're with
Speaker 2: friends that like you don't need the alcohol to have fun,
Speaker 2: you know, like I think part of the reason, and
Speaker 2: I advise our kids on this when you're choosing your
Speaker 2: friends in college, when you're choosing your friends at any time,
Speaker 2: pick people who make you better. Pick dynamic individuals. When
Speaker 2: I look around the room at that group of women,
Speaker 2: there are doctors, lawyers, moms, you know, moms of four,
Speaker 2: stay at home moms, working moms, teachers, pharmacists, like people
Speaker 2: in marketing. There are It's such a dynamic, intelligent, successful,
Speaker 2: empathetic group of women that, like, it was a nice
Speaker 2: reminder that you know, we didn't need to like really
Speaker 2: drink that much to like laugh and have a great
Speaker 2: time and be silly and stupid with each other. And
Speaker 2: also as we're having these deep talks, you know, we're
Speaker 2: listening to each other challenging each other to think differently.
Speaker 2: So again you just leave with your cup really full.
Speaker 1: I think our version of that, the guys version, whether
Speaker 1: I'm on a guy's trip like with my buddies or
Speaker 1: this trip which was my son and two god kids,
Speaker 1: you know, my son's cousins and my brother was there
Speaker 1: the two why the two wives were also in and
Speaker 1: out of dinners and stuff, so we saw them as well.
Speaker 1: But it's just being silly and laughing. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: kind of cracking on each other, giving each other a
Speaker 1: hard time. Watching the kids bond. All the kids are
Speaker 1: pretty close in age, within two three years of each other,
Speaker 1: so they're all kind of in the same life place
Speaker 1: and just watching them reconnect, bond, be silly, be stupid,
Speaker 1: make jokes, but then also seeing you know, Sam there
Speaker 1: at meadow Ridge outdoors doing his thing, and then you know,
Speaker 1: Hank is also, among other things, as a guide. Shout
Speaker 1: out to double H percision precision fishing. If you are
Speaker 1: in the Nacadochus area and want to just crush the fish,
Speaker 1: Sam Rayburn all those lakes over there in East Texas,
Speaker 1: look them up. But watching them do what they do,
Speaker 1: watching and seeing them thrive and all that. My brother
Speaker 1: and I just got to kind of sit back and
Speaker 1: be proud parents. And it's fun obviously to be with
Speaker 1: my brother as well, who's two and a half years
Speaker 1: older than me, so it was great.
Speaker 2: It's always interesting to me that you prioritize saying god
Speaker 2: sons over nephews. Is that like both? I know, but
Speaker 2: you say god sons first, and I would just I'm not, like,
Speaker 2: is it just a different Is that a Texas thing? Maybe?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean in my family we don't have like, we
Speaker 2: don't really have godparents period. But I think I always
Speaker 2: assumed god parents were like chosen friends, not family members.
Speaker 1: It could be anything, it can be totally.
Speaker 2: But I also would assume you would say nephews before
Speaker 2: you'd say god sons. God sons first.
Speaker 1: They're both, They're are all those things biological family.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and you know, maybe it is a geographical thing
Speaker 1: for either way. I grew up when I was younger
Speaker 1: and having kids and all that, it's like they are.
Speaker 1: It was also kind of a spiritual and a religious
Speaker 1: guide to someone who will have your back and be
Speaker 1: a mentor and watch over you and you know, lead
Speaker 1: you hopefully down the right path.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting. I just always thought it was like, if
Speaker 2: your parents die, these people will take you.
Speaker 1: And traditionally I guess it's someone also who if something.
Speaker 2: Thinking it was also like if your parents died, and
Speaker 2: like if no family, then these people would take you.
Speaker 2: That's just you're picking the same people.
Speaker 1: That's a legal document. That's really weird. That's a really
Speaker 1: interesting conversation to have, by the way, that is.
Speaker 2: It's going to take your kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, something we don't talk about on the show as much,
Speaker 1: but it was a real conversation when you have children, like,
Speaker 1: for example, your sister is pregnant and she's gonna have
Speaker 1: a baby. Her and her husband will have to.
Speaker 2: Have this discuss thing you hate thinking about.
Speaker 1: I know, but it's like, you know, it's irresponsible to
Speaker 1: not have those conversations. And it's really interesting because here's
Speaker 1: what's funny. It's very rare and this could be us.
Speaker 1: It's very rare that there's two people you really want
Speaker 1: to have the kids. What you really want is to
Speaker 1: split people up, so it'd be like, okay, how about
Speaker 1: your sister, my brother. You know, you really want to
Speaker 1: put together this perfect couple. It's rarely like that. You
Speaker 1: have one couple where you love both of them so much.
Speaker 2: But well, for some people they might have friends, the
Speaker 2: friends who they'd want to take the kids over family,
Speaker 2: you know not and everybody's close with family.
Speaker 1: And that's something you have to stipulate, you know, in
Speaker 1: your will. And it is a real conversation you have
Speaker 1: to have, like a phone.
Speaker 2: Tree, who's at the top of the phone tree and
Speaker 2: if they're not available, okay the next time no.
Speaker 1: And it's only something you have to worry about for
Speaker 1: two decades, you know.
Speaker 2: Well. And one more thing on the on the trips,
Speaker 2: I think being present is so important. One thing that
Speaker 2: I really love about these trips I take with my
Speaker 2: girlfriends is like everybody has a job, right, everybody has kids,
Speaker 2: but we've really come to know how important they these
Speaker 2: moments are. And like you mentioned, you and I send
Speaker 2: each other a couple of funny videos, which we did,
Speaker 2: but beyond like maybe a daily five minute phone call
Speaker 2: or a quick text to check in with family, we
Speaker 2: really are dialed into each other. It's like no one's
Speaker 2: on their phone or facetiming a bunch with their you
Speaker 2: know kids, and being like it's come here and be present,
Speaker 2: and that makes a big, big difference.
Speaker 1: Don't be the annoying friend who's constantly on their phone,
Speaker 1: especially face timing back home.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to be judgmental on that for
Speaker 2: a minute, but tell me, as I was never a
Speaker 2: parent of young children, Is it again a two minute FaceTime? Okay?
Speaker 2: But my parents would go away on trips.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And one thing I really admired about my parents is
Speaker 2: that they very much prioritize their marriage. And I feel
Speaker 2: like from everything I've read that that actually leads to
Speaker 2: a very successful household where you make sure your marriage
Speaker 2: is a priority, like outside of your kids, that it's
Speaker 2: not just all about the kids and we're sacrificing our relationship.
Speaker 2: So my parents would go away on little weekends together,
Speaker 2: one night away together and leave us with our grandparents.
Speaker 2: And obviously back then you didn't really have cell phones,
Speaker 2: but like, we never missed them checking in. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I guess I just I think it made us better
Speaker 2: at being a little more independent and not like, is
Speaker 2: it a good thing to be doing the face times
Speaker 2: with the kids when you're away.
Speaker 1: No, First of all, it doesn't help.
Speaker 2: I'm asking you in part as well, because you had
Speaker 2: long chunks away from the kids when you were working
Speaker 2: on the show.
Speaker 1: And you know what's funny, the so when it all started,
Speaker 1: there was no face time and it was difficult to
Speaker 1: even call at times. You had to get the right
Speaker 1: plan for long distance and all that. Things obviously moved
Speaker 1: along with being able to text worldwide, and then obviously
Speaker 1: FaceTime came about or zoom or whatever you want to
Speaker 1: do face to face. I think that hurt. I think
Speaker 1: it makes it worse. I felt even just as the parent,
Speaker 1: I felt more lonely and more disconnected because I would
Speaker 1: jump into their lives real quick. Sometimes I would get
Speaker 1: up in the morning. I was around the world, so
Speaker 1: you know, it'd be in the middle of the night
Speaker 1: for me, and it would be seven in the morning
Speaker 1: for them. They were getting ready for school. And sometimes
Speaker 1: they would just prop me up and I would sit
Speaker 1: there while they eat breakfast and we would talk. And
Speaker 1: then you turn off the phone and boom, you're in
Speaker 1: South Africa. You're an Iceland, period and it's yeah, it's
Speaker 1: very painful, and I don't think it helps the kids.
Speaker 1: With that said, you do not need to talk to
Speaker 1: your kids or check in more than once today period
Speaker 1: period that's it. Everybody's healthy, everybody's good. There is zero
Speaker 1: reason you need to check in more than once today
Speaker 1: and again if your son's playing in a championship game
Speaker 1: or something you want to. I know there's little things
Speaker 1: here and there, but I'm just saying on an average day,
Speaker 1: we know people will go on vacation and they will
Speaker 1: face time with their kids five, six, eight times a
Speaker 1: day in the middle of dinner. Your kids need to
Speaker 1: know what you just said. Your time is important, your
Speaker 1: time away is important. They need to know that your
Speaker 1: mental health, your emotional wellbeing is good and they are
Speaker 1: fine not talking to you twenty four to seven. And
Speaker 1: if that is the case, you got to cut the
Speaker 1: cord man, because that is insane and it's not healthy.
Speaker 1: It's not healthy for you, and it's one hundred percent
Speaker 1: not healthy for your kids to talk to you five
Speaker 1: or six times a day. And the reason I say
Speaker 1: Munchhause and syndrome, you are abling and actually you're enabling
Speaker 1: your kids to exist on their own and know that
Speaker 1: they are fine and that you were fine. You are
Speaker 1: creating them.
Speaker 2: See you feel like this is like making the kids, yeah,
Speaker 2: and making sickness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're wanting to make them sick. You need them to,
Speaker 1: you need them to need you, and they don't. They
Speaker 1: don't need you. They're fine. Kids are resilient. Humans are resilient.
Speaker 1: They're going to make it twelve well.
Speaker 2: And it's a very new thing, right. I mean, I
Speaker 2: see now with my friends, and I think what's hard
Speaker 2: sometimes is that all of these things, social media, cell phones,
Speaker 2: technology is both good and bad, and so that's why
Speaker 2: it's really hard to like help make people see the
Speaker 2: bad sometimes. Like for example, now they have like these
Speaker 2: baby monitors where you can like watch your kid twenty
Speaker 2: four to seven on app through the monitor, like watch
Speaker 2: them in their crib. You could like literally turn it
Speaker 2: on and watch them sleep all night if you're away
Speaker 2: through an app on your phone. On the one hand,
Speaker 2: that's great. It's probably really convenient if you're downstairs, you
Speaker 2: can real quick look on your phone and see your
Speaker 2: kid upstairs without even walking up the stairs. On the
Speaker 2: other hand, I have been around friends before who like
Speaker 2: new moms, and I'm not. I don't know what it's
Speaker 2: like to be a new mom. But we're at dinner
Speaker 2: and they keep checking the monitor and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: But people didn't used to have this. This is a
Speaker 2: very new thing and I don't think we need that.
Speaker 2: And I you know, back in the day, how how
Speaker 2: did you keep in touch with your kids when they
Speaker 2: went away to college. They wrote you a letter once
Speaker 2: a week, you know, were they.
Speaker 1: Made a long distance phone call once a week.
Speaker 2: It's why getting back to camp. Actually, I think that
Speaker 2: going to summer camp is really good for the kids
Speaker 2: of today because they are technology free for weeks, if
Speaker 2: not months, They write letters to their parents. They get
Speaker 2: a sense of independence from that. I see a lot
Speaker 2: of benefits now that I'm kind of more in the
Speaker 2: camp world. There's a lot of good that comes out
Speaker 2: of being on their own, being around other kids, and
Speaker 2: being unplugged from technology.
Speaker 1: I try to give my kids days and days of
Speaker 1: no contact with them being at college, with them being
Speaker 1: in college, and even now Josh has graduated. But I
Speaker 1: try to go as as long as I can. You know,
Speaker 1: it won't be more than a week, for sure, but
Speaker 1: I'll check back in. But when I do have a
Speaker 1: conversation with them, it's a download and it's as serious
Speaker 1: as you say, more meaningful, and we are intentional about it.
Speaker 1: Like today, Taylor called me and we talked for forty
Speaker 1: five minutes and we really got into it and she
Speaker 1: asked me what I was up to, and vice versa.
Speaker 1: I don't need to talk to her ever, and I
Speaker 1: know some people do talk every day and all that,
Speaker 1: and I just I think it emboldens them to create
Speaker 1: their own lives, deal with their own problems. That's a
Speaker 1: huge thing. They need to have enough rope to live
Speaker 1: their life and make mistakes and fix those mistakes and
Speaker 1: not come running to you every time something happens. I
Speaker 1: just that is I don't know if that's a hot
Speaker 1: take or not, but I just I see more and
Speaker 1: more of that with parents of when you're with them, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they act like that's that it's a viable excuse
Speaker 1: to step away from from the dinner table five or
Speaker 1: six times too, And it's not nothing's wrong. It's just, oh,
Speaker 1: Billy wants to talk real quick, and it's so cute
Speaker 1: and they think that all think it's cute, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's dependable.
Speaker 2: It's like we're at dinner with you, Like I know,
Speaker 2: I kind of we've been in that situation before. I
Speaker 2: sort of feel like, but we took the time to
Speaker 2: come to dinner with you, like if it's obviously, if
Speaker 2: it's an emergency, it's a different situation. But like, I'm
Speaker 2: not leaving dinner to go take a work call three
Speaker 2: times during the dinner. I would find that root if
Speaker 2: someone did that. And I do think it applies to
Speaker 2: the kid thing too, Like I'm here with you, I'm
Speaker 2: your friend. I wanted to have We're only here for
Speaker 2: an hour and a half. I wanted to have this
Speaker 2: dinner with you being present.
Speaker 1: And it's very simple, Billy, you're fine, We're at dinner
Speaker 1: with friends. I need you to respect our time. We'll
Speaker 1: be home in an hour and we'll talk about all.
Speaker 2: It's hard because it had they have the ability. I
Speaker 2: mean when I was a kid, I couldn't if my
Speaker 2: parents went out to dinner, I couldn't call them. How
Speaker 2: could you? You couldn't, so like.
Speaker 1: You have to call the olive gardener, red lobster.
Speaker 2: And did not Gosh, wow, Should we spend less time
Speaker 2: in total contact with each other?
Speaker 1: No, No, it doesn't go for us. But I will
Speaker 1: say when we're apart though, like we were this weekend,
Speaker 1: if I heard from you, great. I mean there were
Speaker 1: there was days where maybe you'd send me a text
Speaker 1: and that's about it. And then you'd take a night
Speaker 1: and I would I knew where you were and I
Speaker 1: knew what you were doing, and that was important.
Speaker 2: So you knew that I was just getting my nature
Speaker 2: on in those.
Speaker 1: And I didn't want to break into that emotional wall. Man,
Speaker 1: you don't want any part of that, right, What Like
Speaker 1: I'm at a gun range and you're doing that. Like
Speaker 1: we were polar opposites emotionally. I was not.
Speaker 2: I mean it was I say that, but it was funny.
Speaker 2: My friends know me very well and they were all saying, zeems,
Speaker 2: this is a pretty naturry location. How are you going
Speaker 2: to do here? It was a little buggy, but hey,
Speaker 2: you know, I handled it. I like an adventure. I
Speaker 2: will say that if we ever, if anyone ever suggests camping,
Speaker 2: I don't think I want to do that one. But
Speaker 2: it was cabminding. All right, We're going to be back
Speaker 2: with some headlines, okay, everyone from our personal headlines too,
Speaker 2: headlines all over the place. We wanted to talk about
Speaker 2: a few things in our world, the entertainment world going on.
Speaker 2: First of all, this headline from Sabrina Carpenter. I wanted
Speaker 2: to bring this up to you, babe, because you were
Speaker 2: in the industry for such a long time. I'm Sabrina
Speaker 2: Carpenter's having a real moment right now. Lots of hit
Speaker 2: songs opened for Taylor Swift, like killing It, and she
Speaker 2: revealed in a new interview with Variety that maybe her
Speaker 2: biggest hit of the past few months the song Espresso
Speaker 2: and you know it that higher ups, she said didn't
Speaker 2: want to release the song, that she had to convince them,
Speaker 2: and wow, did her sticking to her, you know, her
Speaker 2: standing her ground pay off because it was such a
Speaker 2: massive hit. And you see that a lot in our industry,
Speaker 2: especially now when decisions are made with algorithms and AI
Speaker 2: and tech people at the top making these decisions instead
Speaker 2: of creative people. Were you ever in a moment like
Speaker 2: that with any of the shows you did where you
Speaker 2: like pushed for something creatively and maybe you got your
Speaker 2: way or didn't.
Speaker 1: All the time, Yeah, it happens all the time, and
Speaker 1: it's that and you're right. It is this intersection of
Speaker 1: corporate executives and many executives who get to the level
Speaker 1: of at all these networks or streamers or whatever, and
Speaker 1: they've never actually created anything. They've never produced right, they're
Speaker 1: not producers. They who knows where they came from. And
Speaker 1: that's not to knock on them, because they have gone risen,
Speaker 1: you know, on the ladder their way, and clearly they
Speaker 1: were good at what they did, but they will get
Speaker 1: to a point where they got to cross over and
Speaker 1: instead of maybe leaning on someone creative, they are thinking, well,
Speaker 1: I've been good at this, so I'm good at everything,
Speaker 1: and you have to fight like the Dickens. And I
Speaker 1: think the best lesson I will learn is figure out
Speaker 1: whichhill you want to die on. And for her it
Speaker 1: a Sabrina Carpenter. I'm guessing she's like, this is the
Speaker 1: hill I'm going to die on. This single needs to
Speaker 1: be out in the world. I want this launched. And
Speaker 1: you win some of these fights, and you lose some
Speaker 1: of these fights, and they're probably good at what they do,
Speaker 1: but they're not good at everything, and they have blind
Speaker 1: spots too, and it's okay to point out these blind
Speaker 1: spots and to fight for what you believe in creatively.
Speaker 1: The other thing is, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: if you're not the executive producer, if you're not the boss,
Speaker 1: you're not going to have the final say and sometimes
Speaker 1: you have to eat it and you got to swallow
Speaker 1: your pride and you got to go do the show
Speaker 1: that you don't think was probably very good.
Speaker 2: Is there anything specific that comes to mind for you,
Speaker 2: a time when you fought and you made it and
Speaker 2: it worked so well, or a time when you thought, man,
Speaker 2: they really should have listened to me on that one.
Speaker 1: There was a we're in the middle of an election.
Speaker 1: The last two elections ago, this would have been Trump
Speaker 1: and Hillary. And the thing about The Bachelor is it's
Speaker 1: never been political. I don't think people tune in to
Speaker 1: The Bachelor because they're on the left of the right
Speaker 1: or whatever. I don't care, and we've never cared. The
Speaker 1: point is you want to escape. That's what I thought
Speaker 1: the show was about. And one of our creators, one
Speaker 1: of the bosses, was just a hardcore lefty, big Democrat,
Speaker 1: and he wanted me to make And this is in
Speaker 1: the middle of a tape show, as women.
Speaker 2: Tell all, was it live?
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't live, So we're taping it. And in
Speaker 1: the middle of the show, they would get my ear
Speaker 1: They often do that. They would get my air and
Speaker 1: say literally an earpiece and say, hey, they want you
Speaker 1: to say this. They want you to say that. Ask
Speaker 1: this question. Most of the time, very productive, very good.
Speaker 1: This one time, in the middle of this, he wanted
Speaker 1: me to make a Trump joke and say something positive
Speaker 1: about Hill, and it was just we I've never done that.
Speaker 1: In the twenty years I've been on the show. We've
Speaker 1: never made a political joke, never made an innu window
Speaker 1: of any sort of politics. And so I looked at
Speaker 1: my direct camera because they I wasn't on camera, but
Speaker 1: they could see me, and I just shook my head no,
Speaker 1: and he got my air and said it again. They
Speaker 1: want you to say this. He said no, and then
Speaker 1: they got back and said, you know where this is
Speaker 1: coming from. You know who's asking. They want you to
Speaker 1: say this, And I again shook my head no. Go
Speaker 1: to commercial break, stop, Chris. They want you up in
Speaker 1: the control room. They called me up to the control
Speaker 1: room and I got absolutely verbally assaulted, screaming at me.
Speaker 1: There's thirty people in the room, and you know it's funny.
Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. Remember who's the woman that runs
Speaker 1: It's Kelly. They were there because the Dallas Cowboy Chiliders
Speaker 1: were in an Oxnard for training camp. And I invited
Speaker 1: them and they were all there. They were in the
Speaker 1: next room, and they heard it. He was screaming at
Speaker 1: me of like, this is how this works. I tell
Speaker 1: you what to say, and you say it. And so
Speaker 1: I stood my ground and I didn't make a political joke.
Speaker 1: And so that's one where I'm glad I stood make
Speaker 1: ground because that's what we never stood for that. We
Speaker 1: never wanted to fight that battle or that's not what
Speaker 1: the show's about. It's about you escaping. And so that
Speaker 1: was one that really stood out where I got absolutely
Speaker 1: verbally abused in front of everybody, just got absolutely undressed.
Speaker 1: And then I went back down and I said, all right,
Speaker 1: well you know I agree to disagree. I'm going to
Speaker 1: go do the show I was going to do. And
Speaker 1: I left and never did it.
Speaker 2: You were glad you sucked to your Well, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: no place for that on the show. I think people
Speaker 2: would be surprised by how many times you were in
Speaker 2: situations like that when you were kind of having to
Speaker 2: fight what should be said or shouldn't be said behind
Speaker 2: the scenes, because you and I both shared this difficulty.
Speaker 2: You're working for a big brand and company and multiple
Speaker 2: companies behind the scenes, but it's your name the TV
Speaker 2: and it's you who's speaking with the words coming out
Speaker 2: of your mouth. Like that's a big difference to me
Speaker 2: between hosting and acting. When you're an actor, you're beholden
Speaker 2: to a lot of companies, sure, and you have bosses,
Speaker 2: but you're playing a character. When you're a host, you're
Speaker 2: beholden to all these people, but it's like, you got
Speaker 2: to say this stuff. There were definitely times at ET
Speaker 2: when I creatively disagreed with questions they wanted me to
Speaker 2: ask the ways that they wanted me to ask things,
Speaker 2: but I had to do it at certain times. And
Speaker 2: when I look back, and I think it's a lesson
Speaker 2: for anybody in your work environment, Like, sure, you have
Speaker 2: to do things sometimes at your job that you don't
Speaker 2: want to do. But when I look back, the thing
Speaker 2: that I'm proudest of at ET was Roses and Rose
Speaker 2: and that was creatively pretty much completely me. And I
Speaker 2: think that's in part why I'm so proud of it,
Speaker 2: because I got to do this like weird, quirky show
Speaker 2: the way that I wanted to do it, and I'm
Speaker 2: really grateful for my boss, Shana, who green lit it
Speaker 2: in the first place, because in the beginning you could
Speaker 2: have looked at it and said, like, what is this
Speaker 2: and it wasn't really like the et vibe. But I
Speaker 2: guess I'll toot my own horn and say, I think
Speaker 2: that's what happens when people allow creatives to do their thing.
Speaker 2: That became CBS's number one original digital show. And if
Speaker 2: you're worried, a piece of advice I would give if
Speaker 2: you're trying to figure out how to do your own
Speaker 2: thing at work is like tell them, like, start with
Speaker 2: small resources, because that is more likely to get you
Speaker 2: a green light. Like when I started doing Roses and Rose,
Speaker 2: I said I just need me and like one editor,
Speaker 2: that's all that I need. And that, truly, by the way,
Speaker 2: was pretty much what it was up until the end.
Speaker 2: We eventually had two camera guys and I had a
Speaker 2: producer who helped me a little bit with pulling footage show.
Speaker 2: So the team did eventually grow, But in the beginning
Speaker 2: that was kind of how I got it green lit.
Speaker 2: And you know, then when you proven the success of something,
Speaker 2: then you get more re sources for it. I do
Speaker 2: think sometimes people today, everybody's like, well, this is my idea,
Speaker 2: and they want like don't put the cart before the horse,
Speaker 2: you know, get the product and then get the budget
Speaker 2: after that. But I wanted to give a shout out
Speaker 2: to Sabrina Carpenter for sticking her guns on that and
Speaker 2: it worked.
Speaker 1: And that kind of leads into another, like very interesting
Speaker 1: interview we just saw.
Speaker 2: So Vince Vaughan was on Hot Ones, which if you
Speaker 2: haven't ever heard of it is ever do that you won't.
Speaker 2: It's the show where you eat you progressively eat spicier
Speaker 2: and spicier hot sauce on wings are all being interviewed.
Speaker 1: If he started with mayonnaise and went to catch.
Speaker 2: Up, Oh yeah, because you can't have I well.
Speaker 1: The show, but I mean I can't do paste Peccani sauce.
Speaker 1: I mean that show would I would, I would be
Speaker 1: in the hospital.
Speaker 2: I don't know what sauce you just mentioned, but so
Speaker 2: I guess I'll give another point of reference for people
Speaker 2: about how wimpy Chris is about spice. If there is
Speaker 2: a jalapeno, a single slice of jalapeno to be found
Speaker 2: on his sandwich, in his drink, like we are not
Speaker 2: going for at spicy margarita with this man, And every
Speaker 2: time he eats or drinks anything that like he didn't
Speaker 2: know was even a little bit spicy. His eyes start
Speaker 2: to water and he goes, it's gotta look kick to it,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my god, it sure does not.
Speaker 1: That was teen or if I ever went on the show,
Speaker 1: I would just always answer honestly, because you don't have
Speaker 1: to eat if you answer correctly.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's not part of the premise.
Speaker 2: The premise is just you keep eating and they keep answering.
Speaker 2: It's not like an either or When people do that show,
Speaker 2: they're just signing up for the comedy of their own pain.
Speaker 1: I just I couldn't do it. I really, I honestly
Speaker 1: physically couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: You would throw up for sure, that could be.
Speaker 1: But I love the show and Vince Bond was on
Speaker 1: and he was fantastic.
Speaker 2: So he spoke about and I was a little frustrated
Speaker 2: because his quotes were very you know, it's part of
Speaker 2: the reason why I'm a little I've pulled back from
Speaker 2: my own industry of the media, but they were taken
Speaker 2: out of context by a lot of people. He gave
Speaker 2: this really thoughtful answer to why his the thing that
Speaker 2: kind of made him famous. Our rated movies like that
Speaker 2: aren't made anymore.
Speaker 1: Wedding crashers, old School.
Speaker 2: Just Dodgeball, Yeah, great movies, movies that we all love
Speaker 2: un quote. So he gave an answer about like you know,
Speaker 2: the people green lighting the movies, like maybe you know,
Speaker 2: they don't exactly know what works or not. But he
Speaker 2: also pointed out that a big issue has been this
Speaker 2: need for IP intellectual property over the past ten years
Speaker 2: or so, and we all see it. If you know it,
Speaker 2: go see any movies you see it. It's like things
Speaker 2: like Battleship the movie got made, and he points out,
Speaker 2: like why was the game Battleship? Why did that? There
Speaker 2: was no storytelling in that movie. But people just executives
Speaker 2: just think we need IP to make something because they're
Speaker 2: pulling from well, the Marvel movies were successful and and
Speaker 2: that's all this known IP. And he made the point like, well,
Speaker 2: what do we consider IP, Like he brought up John Hughes.
Speaker 2: He said, the IP of the brilliance of John Hughes'
Speaker 2: movies is like sixteen Candles was the known IP of
Speaker 2: what it's like for a girl to turn sixteen, or
Speaker 2: Ferris Bueller's Day Off was the IP of you know,
Speaker 2: kids skipping a day of school.
Speaker 1: Twenty half of age stories first love that that too
Speaker 1: is incredible intellectual property and.
Speaker 2: That has been lost. And I think he was so right.
Speaker 2: You know, he mentioned old school. The idea there is
Speaker 2: what if you could go back to your college days
Speaker 2: and now? And I just wanted to talk about it
Speaker 2: a minute because I saw, like the Hollywood Reporter posted
Speaker 2: on Instagram just one of the quotes he said where
Speaker 2: he kind of said, do people you know, people want
Speaker 2: to laugh and people want to be funny, and that
Speaker 2: kind of was construed into people in the comments. He
Speaker 2: was saying, people want to laugh and we just have
Speaker 2: to give them better material. So I thought his answer
Speaker 2: was brilliant. You said you'd separately seen this clip. What
Speaker 2: did you think?
Speaker 1: Well, And to further your point, what he said about
Speaker 1: the intellectual property is that the executives making the decisions
Speaker 1: on movies are searching and seeking out intellectual property because
Speaker 1: they're hiding behind it. They are just protecting their jobs
Speaker 1: because then they can say, well, look, battleship failed. It
Speaker 1: was a colossal failure at the box office, but we
Speaker 1: had the intellectual property, you know, we used it. So
Speaker 1: it is basically them playing it safe. Executives playing it
Speaker 1: safe so they protect their jobs and they're not taking
Speaker 1: risks like old school, like Ferris Bueller's day Off, like
Speaker 1: all those.
Speaker 2: All and he's signed with empathy. He said, I understand
Speaker 2: it people, you know, they don't want to lose their job.
Speaker 2: But I think that's totally true. If you say, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: the movie was a failure, but like I followed the
Speaker 2: intellectual property model, then you're going to be okay. The
Speaker 2: problem there is that overall the company goes into decline
Speaker 2: and the industry goes into decline. But I saw it
Speaker 2: at CBS too. It's people like just wanting to get
Speaker 2: to their retirement, like standing on the deck of the
Speaker 2: ship as it is sinking and hoping that they can
Speaker 2: just make it to shore before it does, and it
Speaker 2: ultimately hurts so many more people.
Speaker 1: I think you have this idea again that the people
Speaker 1: above you are in it to win it just like
Speaker 1: you are, like to be creative and to be innovative,
Speaker 1: to really push the envelope, and they're not.
Speaker 2: They're not. They're not. Most of That's what I meant
Speaker 2: by falling up earlier. It is the rare executive that
Speaker 2: has gotten there because they are a creative visionary. But
Speaker 2: that rare standout of a person makes people think that
Speaker 2: that human is in every job, and they're not. So
Speaker 2: many of those people have just fallen up. We're just
Speaker 2: made the decisions, like Ben Swannes is saying, of like
Speaker 2: not ruffled too many feathers, and so they keep getting promoted.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, recent history is showing probably what he's kind of
Speaker 1: revolting against, and that is Barbie did incredibly well. Heavy Ip, Deadpool,
Speaker 1: Wolverine are rated R. These are rated R movies.
Speaker 2: By the way, Twisters it was a kind of a sequel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like, man, it's like, but there's got
Speaker 1: to be room in the Jennifer Lawrence and Glenn pal
Speaker 1: also had some movies come out that were kind of independent.
Speaker 1: They weren't intellectual property, and they were good comedies.
Speaker 2: The Fall, Hard Feelings and Anyone but.
Speaker 1: You the Fall Guy intellectual property. So you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's a rhyme or reason, but what
Speaker 1: he's saying is the reason they're choosing. If we have
Speaker 1: two great scripts, two great ideas, we're going to choose
Speaker 1: intellectual property because we can hide behind that. We're not
Speaker 1: going to take a flyer on this. And we're hearing
Speaker 1: more and more of these stories about you know, a
Speaker 1: jet Appatau show or Ben Still or whatever, and these
Speaker 1: shows are not getting greenlit and not getting picked up.
Speaker 1: These executives are not taking it for me.
Speaker 2: Like what I would have added to what Vince said
Speaker 2: is is what you just said. I think the issue
Speaker 2: is a lack of risk taking, and that lack of
Speaker 2: risk taking is coming from people being afraid to lose
Speaker 2: their jobs. But like Barbie, yes there was IP there,
Speaker 2: but it was written in such an unexpected way he
Speaker 2: did with it, so yeah. Or Oppenheimer, well there's that
Speaker 2: he's a known person. But like the way Christopher Nolan
Speaker 2: made that movie anyone but you. The Glenn Powell Sidney
Speaker 2: Sweeney movie is loosely based on Shakespeare's Much Ado about Nothing,
Speaker 2: So like all these things actually did have what you
Speaker 2: might call IP, but they did it in a new
Speaker 2: and fun way. And that's the thing is I think
Speaker 2: that it's like, Okay, do it based on IP, but
Speaker 2: be risk taking with it, like I think Deadpool has
Speaker 2: done so well because Ryan Reynolds just so leaned into
Speaker 2: like this is actually going to be the most intense
Speaker 2: rated R movie, like it's not a superhero movie for
Speaker 2: the family, and so I wish the risks were taken more.
Speaker 2: But both vincevonn and Sabrina Carpenter are talking about the
Speaker 2: same thing, which is we need to get back to
Speaker 2: risk taking and creativity. Because what I can tell you
Speaker 2: is that every movie and every song that's like ever
Speaker 2: touched anybody came from people. It came from something that
Speaker 2: people like connected to in their hearts. It didn't come
Speaker 2: from like, oh, I played the ship Battleship or I
Speaker 2: played the game Battleship as a kid. It didn't come
Speaker 2: from like like Barbie wasn't big because it was like,
Speaker 2: oh I played with a Barbie as a kid. It
Speaker 2: was big because of the statements that made about women
Speaker 2: and how women related to the moments and the movie
Speaker 2: like The Bachelor. I don't know. I guess you could
Speaker 2: argue the ip there is everybody wants to find love,
Speaker 2: everybody wants to get married.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the oldest story in the book. We all
Speaker 1: want love, we all want to belong, we all want
Speaker 1: to be a part of something special and watch it.
Speaker 2: But people connected to the shower and I think The
Speaker 2: problem I'm saying is soulless movies are being made. It's
Speaker 2: not really about where you get the idea. It's like,
Speaker 2: is the movie a good movie or is it just
Speaker 2: a soulless movie that somebody made because they thought, well,
Speaker 2: we have this intellectual property, and if we just check
Speaker 2: these boxes and just bam out a script and throw
Speaker 2: a lot of money at the action sequences, well then
Speaker 2: it's going to be a box officer.
Speaker 1: You know. It's funny and you mentioned television, and there's
Speaker 1: so many stories of great art that nobody wanted to do.
Speaker 1: Survivor No one wanted to touch that. With a thousand
Speaker 1: foot poll, it's the longest running, most successful reality show
Speaker 1: on TV bar none. It was on a year or
Speaker 1: so before The Bachelor. It went around over and over
Speaker 1: and over and Barnette finding was.
Speaker 2: Like he was pitching it and no one wanted to
Speaker 2: really I want.
Speaker 1: To touch it. Mark Burnette's finally like, fine, I'm just
Speaker 1: going to buy the I'm on CBS, and they did.
Speaker 1: The Bachelor was passed around, you know, all over town,
Speaker 1: dancing with the stars. I remember being in the in
Speaker 1: the in the control room when they were talking about
Speaker 1: this dancing show. Nobody wanted it. It went around to every network,
Speaker 1: everybody passed. It's that is a story oldest time. But
Speaker 1: great art often is kind of misunderstood and then it's
Speaker 1: hard to find. But I think art is suffering right now.
Speaker 1: It really is with whether it's the music industry, whether
Speaker 1: it's movies, whether it's television. Everybody's looking for a correction
Speaker 1: and nobody's found it yet. No one's kind of figured
Speaker 1: out the way. I think the strike obviously hurt us.
Speaker 1: And there's finally we went to the movies, and we
Speaker 1: went to Deadpool the other night, and we finally saw
Speaker 1: several very interesting movies coming up and like Wicked intellectual Property,
Speaker 1: Yeah that's coming up, Beetlejuice, intellectual property, that's coming up.
Speaker 2: Although Vince Vaughn did say he was like, I think
Speaker 2: we're heading towards a turn and feels like I agree,
Speaker 2: it feels like it. I feel hopeful. I think that
Speaker 2: because I think actually what's helped is that Deadpool, aside
Speaker 2: the past couple Marvel movies have not hit that number
Speaker 2: in the same way. Now, granted they just pulled Robert
Speaker 2: Downey Junior to now play Doctor Doom, so they're still
Speaker 2: trying to like kind of reinvent the Marvel movie thing
Speaker 2: and reinvigorate it because it's such a cash cow. But
Speaker 2: I do think that those signs of audience fatigue will
Speaker 2: hopefully bring like some of you know, it's like everything
Speaker 2: old becomes new again. Try the rom com again. You know,
Speaker 2: we all want to see a rom com, so we'll see.
Speaker 2: But I just thought Vince Vaughn probably put it better
Speaker 2: than anybody I've heard.
Speaker 1: Saying eliquent by the way, I was kind of bombed
Speaker 1: a that anybody gave him grief for that. Like, go
Speaker 1: listen to the interview, which nobody does anymore, but go
Speaker 1: listen to what he said. He was very articulate, very eloquent.
Speaker 1: I've never heard Vince Vaughn actually speak from the heart
Speaker 1: like that, and I really enjoyed his insight. It was
Speaker 1: really fantastic to listen to speaking of success and intellectual
Speaker 1: property the Olympics.
Speaker 2: What's the intellectual property of the Olympics.
Speaker 1: Those rings, No, the Olympic IOC, the International Olympic Committee. There,
Speaker 1: it's killing it. I was I was very interested. I
Speaker 1: was looking up the ratings. The ratings are soaring, they
Speaker 1: are smashing records. And I was wondering how well this
Speaker 1: would do because I used to dislike the Olympics when
Speaker 1: they were overseas because you would just go to NBC
Speaker 1: at night and they would do their primetime coverage and
Speaker 1: you would only get what they got. So it's like
Speaker 1: this slow trickle. There's a thousand sports going on and
Speaker 1: you just got what they wanted you to see. Well,
Speaker 1: now we're kind of in this new modern era where
Speaker 1: we're really drinking from a fire hydrant. It's almost too much,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking, is it too broad? We're on USA,
Speaker 1: we're on TNT, we're on Peacock, we're on NBC, We're
Speaker 1: on CNBC and MSNBC. There's sports everywhere. You turn on
Speaker 1: YouTube TV and there's like that. It's just so much.
Speaker 1: It's an assault on the census. So I thought, are
Speaker 1: we so scattered? And then Mike Tarico, who is phenomenal,
Speaker 1: he's a legend, and he is hosting for NBC this
Speaker 1: year and a great choice to host the primetime coverage,
Speaker 1: and he's really doing a good job. And NBC's still
Speaker 1: they're still They've done a brilliant job of somehow making
Speaker 1: it fresh at night even though all the sports are
Speaker 1: taking place during the day here in America.
Speaker 2: What about Mike Trica? What do you like?
Speaker 1: You they've just done it. They just do a good
Speaker 1: job of I've watched a lot of this stuff during
Speaker 1: the day because that's the other thing is, so back
Speaker 1: in the day, you would never see what's going on
Speaker 1: in the middle of the day in France, you know,
Speaker 1: primetime there, so we wouldn't know. Like maybe you could
Speaker 1: see it eventually on the computer and stuff as things
Speaker 1: were coming out, but you didn't get to see it
Speaker 1: till at night. So say Carl Lewis won the one
Speaker 1: hundred meter dash, he's the fastest man in the world,
Speaker 1: or maybe the long jump, you would see that at
Speaker 1: seven o'clock tonight when NBC decided to show it. Same
Speaker 1: thing with you know some owe Biles and our gymnastics team.
Speaker 1: I watch them during the day, but somehow they repackaged
Speaker 1: it and made it fresh at night as well.
Speaker 2: They do. You just think they're doing a good job.
Speaker 1: I know, I think they've done a fabulous job.
Speaker 2: I haven't been watching it as intently as you because sports.
Speaker 2: But what I do love is when sports get emotional
Speaker 2: and the Olympics. That's the Olympics. I mean, when you
Speaker 2: see someone who's been working so long, the fact that
Speaker 2: it's every four years they've come here to like make
Speaker 2: their dreams come true. When it is you know, typically
Speaker 2: a lot of people you've never heard of before and
Speaker 2: then this is their moment, you know their lives are
Speaker 2: going to change. And the fact that we can come
Speaker 2: together and even though to be honest, I've i haven't
Speaker 2: felt as much unity as I've wanted, but like support
Speaker 2: each other as a country. I think the controversy around
Speaker 2: the opening ceremonies put a bit of a stain on
Speaker 2: like the unity feeling of it. But still it's like
Speaker 2: we're coming together pride in America, like we need this
Speaker 2: right now. I mean, I love America. I'm so grateful
Speaker 2: I'm from America and to see people champions hoist up
Speaker 2: the flag and be proud is definitely something that we
Speaker 2: need right now. I think just today, as we're recording this,
Speaker 2: we had just watched Gabby Thomas, our fellow Austin resident
Speaker 2: graduate of UT I know she's originally from Atlanta, but
Speaker 2: she lives here in Texas. Now just kill it in
Speaker 2: am I getting this right babe. The two hundred meter dash. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2: I don't know what event I'm watching, but I do
Speaker 2: know that I love seeing her pull ahead of the
Speaker 2: pack and then like cry and be joyful and see
Speaker 2: her family and hold up the flag and.
Speaker 1: Boss Harvard grad.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, she's gorgeous, smart athletic. Like I just
Speaker 2: tope her career skyrockets from here. And I know she's
Speaker 2: already doing very well, but what an achiever, what an
Speaker 2: all star. Congrats to Gabby.
Speaker 1: I love watching her and she's she's been the darling
Speaker 1: of our tracting. We're you know they It's one of
Speaker 1: those things we there is. The thing about sports is
Speaker 1: interesting is there's the expectations and in track and field
Speaker 1: when you're talking about the one hundred meter dash and
Speaker 1: if y'all watch it the other night, the American one
Speaker 1: and I mean Jerry Seinfeld actually has a good bit
Speaker 1: that's resurfaced where he's like the difference at the Olympics
Speaker 1: where you're Mount Rushmore immortalized, your a legend and he
Speaker 1: kind of like there's a nose, right, he sticks this
Speaker 1: legend and he pulls his head back forgotten never heard
Speaker 1: of meaning milliseconds can separate someone from the greatest achievement
Speaker 1: in the history of sports and someone who's obsolete. It's
Speaker 1: like that that amount, that razor thin edge is fascinating
Speaker 1: to watch.
Speaker 2: Well. The level of competition I've also seen going around
Speaker 2: on like Instagram and stuff the past couple days, people
Speaker 2: comparing footage from decades ago versus now, Like how much
Speaker 2: more athletic people are now, how much more they're doing
Speaker 2: in their sport is just wild. The level of achievement
Speaker 2: and the level of competition.
Speaker 1: When they have the side by side swimming from like
Speaker 1: you know, the thirties or whatever to work.
Speaker 2: The gymnastics basically decades ago, they're just kind of like
Speaker 2: doing a flip and now you look at Simone Biles
Speaker 2: is doing seventeen flips.
Speaker 1: If you saw what Nadia comany Each did or even
Speaker 1: Mary lou Rettin was at ninety four Olympics in La
Speaker 1: it just doesn't compare to what Simone Bials and those
Speaker 1: ladies did.
Speaker 2: Can I say something that's a little bit sad, but well,
Speaker 2: one thing that's put in perspective for me is how
Speaker 2: trash our healthcare system and like the food that we
Speaker 2: get for normal people are not is now because when
Speaker 2: you see these Olympians, you realize how fit we all
Speaker 2: could be. Like, the reason they're in such great shape
Speaker 2: now is the advance of research and science and technology
Speaker 2: and awareness of what does well for the human body. Right,
Speaker 2: But like, the average American is so much less healthy
Speaker 2: than they were all those decades ago. Yea, Like our
Speaker 2: Olympians are in better shape, but our average American is
Speaker 2: in worse shape. So anyway, that's just like literally kind
Speaker 2: of a side depressing note and a reminder to eat
Speaker 2: naturally and get out and walk outside, every buddy.
Speaker 1: The stories. A couple of stories that stood out to
Speaker 1: me that aren't that we're kind of off the front
Speaker 1: pages are women's rugby team I've fallen in love with.
Speaker 1: I started watching the seven on seven rugby, which is
Speaker 1: so fun to watch, but we won a gold medal
Speaker 1: and it was they are They were so fun and
Speaker 1: I've been following a couple of them on social media
Speaker 1: and they are just cracking me up. Speaking of Harvard grads,
Speaker 1: this thirty one year old Harvard grad who won the
Speaker 1: gold medal in US in open road cycling. Her name
Speaker 1: is Kristin Faulkner, who didn't grow up cycling. She moved
Speaker 1: to New York and she grew up in the outdoors
Speaker 1: and just wanted to pick it up. So she was
Speaker 1: cycling around Central Park. Wasn't even like meant to be
Speaker 1: in this, but whoever was going to ride for us
Speaker 1: backed out. She got in and destroyed the competition, made
Speaker 1: this late move at the end and just took off
Speaker 1: from the most heralded cyclists in the world, you know,
Speaker 1: the Dutch, the French, the Italians, the people that are
Speaker 1: known for cycling. And this American woman absolutely pulled away
Speaker 1: in the gutsiest performance and just destroyed the field. And
Speaker 1: she is what a crazy story. She grew up in
Speaker 1: like Alaska, then went and then she moved to San
Speaker 1: Francisco because she was in a financial district and working
Speaker 1: as a financial analyst. Just a wild story.
Speaker 2: Well again, that's what's cool about the Olympics, right is
Speaker 2: anybody do something else? I know? And it is I
Speaker 2: have loved the NBC has done some incredible little like
Speaker 2: mini bio like mini biography videos. Yes on them. And
Speaker 2: you see you know a guy who's like literally working
Speaker 2: a day job and he like a remote I don't know,
Speaker 2: he's a job in marketing, or something, and he's like,
Speaker 2: and then I train at night for the Olympics.
Speaker 1: It's so impressive what these people are sponsored by other people.
Speaker 2: So okay, if you if it was like Chris, you
Speaker 2: need to pick a sport tomorrow to try to become
Speaker 2: an Olympian in what do you think you have the
Speaker 2: best chance at.
Speaker 1: I'm the best chance at soccer?
Speaker 2: Are there soccer Olympics?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Are they part of this?
Speaker 1: The men got knocked out, Yeah, the US men got
Speaker 1: knocked out. The women the women, uh just moved on today.
Speaker 1: We're taping this on Tuesday, and the women just advanced
Speaker 1: big running Germany.
Speaker 2: Overall. Are our gals doing better from America? I've heard
Speaker 2: more about obviously our women's gymnastics team. Congrats to them
Speaker 2: killing it ladies. And then like in the pool DECKI yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's that one. No, No, I'm trying to think I've
Speaker 2: heard a lot more. Well, I mean with the pommel
Speaker 2: horse guy, he crushed it.
Speaker 1: His life is said. I love the people whose lives
Speaker 1: are literally changing as you see.
Speaker 2: Yes. Well, and that's a beautiful thing about social media
Speaker 2: is that you know, in years past, the few and
Speaker 2: far between Olympians would get like a Wheaties box cover
Speaker 2: and they make some money. But social media has made
Speaker 2: it so that these Olympians can get true careers on
Speaker 2: Instagram or whatever out of working so hard for this achievement.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I've definitely can think of more like female
Speaker 2: stories out of the Olympics and Mail well, I.
Speaker 1: Mean one of the biggest stories in the pool of
Speaker 1: the Alma Shan. But you know what's interesting is a
Speaker 1: lot of these French, a lot of these people though
Speaker 1: we're talking about our American well, they basically are American.
Speaker 2: Uh Like he went to school in the Arizona right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he went to Arizona State and he trained with
Speaker 1: Michael Phelps and Bowman, the kid who.
Speaker 2: Are eltally surprising myself with my amount of not right now.
Speaker 2: I think it's just because of social media.
Speaker 1: You watched pole vaul lesson by the way, did you
Speaker 1: see the gentleman Unfortunately, and we know he's a gentleman
Speaker 1: that lost the pole vault because his manhood.
Speaker 2: I think we can say penis. The headlines said his
Speaker 2: man tackle. That that's a redneck word for penis. His
Speaker 2: penis knocked him out. He lost literally he knocked Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: well that you know if you're going to go out,
Speaker 2: at least didn't just fall into face. That's that's the
Speaker 2: way that's going to get people talking in a good way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's going to get lost. He'll get
Speaker 1: some interesting endorsements after this is over. But the young
Speaker 1: man who.
Speaker 2: Won, there's always stories about the hookups.
Speaker 1: And he broke his own world record. Armand du plantis Swedish.
Speaker 1: He won for Sweden last night. His parents are the
Speaker 1: coaches at LSU, ran track at LSU. He's at LSU,
Speaker 1: and he went over and did an interview. He sounds
Speaker 1: more redneck and American than I do. And a lot
Speaker 1: of what's cool is you see a lot of these women,
Speaker 1: like we were watching track today, they all race against
Speaker 1: each other at American colleges. You know, most of them
Speaker 1: are at American universities, and it's which is really cool.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of Austin ut swimmers, runners from the
Speaker 1: University of Texas and the Olympics, so it's kind of
Speaker 1: fun to keep up with where everybody's from. But over all,
Speaker 1: the Olympics, I think, you know, look, I know the
Speaker 1: opening ceremonies were politically a disaster and they really missed
Speaker 1: the mark. But they're French. What do you expect?
Speaker 2: I mean, the French are a little more naked than
Speaker 2: the rest of By the way, I'm not like defending it.
Speaker 1: I know it was silly and it missed the mark,
Speaker 1: and I think.
Speaker 2: It missed the mark. And I've talked to my friends
Speaker 2: about it. We'd actually came up on the girls trip,
Speaker 2: and some people were offended by it, and someoneed and
Speaker 2: some people were very offended by it. I just think, ultimately,
Speaker 2: like the French push the envelope more, and maybe this
Speaker 2: wasn't the time to push the envelope, but like that's
Speaker 2: their culture.
Speaker 1: I just I guess my final question why why?
Speaker 2: Because they're French, I.
Speaker 1: Know, but that's the thing. It's like, did you need it? Like?
Speaker 2: Why? All right? I think overall, when you're on that
Speaker 2: big literally on a world stage, it's better to just
Speaker 2: keep it more neutral.
Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see what we do in four years,
Speaker 1: because it's coming to Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: I know they've been claiming to be redoing LAX for
Speaker 2: I don't even know how Tommy Cruz. Guess what, guys,
Speaker 2: lax looks no different.
Speaker 1: Little Tommy Cruise is going to do some kind of
Speaker 1: a stunt in the closing ceremonies for France. Yeah, for
Speaker 1: in France because it's kind of the there's always that
Speaker 1: traditional hand off to Los Ange, hand off to the
Speaker 1: next site of it.
Speaker 2: Is that why Tom Cruise is doing it. So Tom
Speaker 2: Cruise is going to catapult into America doing the Olympics.
Speaker 1: There's always a traditional handing over of the flame, handing
Speaker 1: over something where they will dim the flame in Paris
Speaker 1: and it will move to Los Angeles and I'll be honestly, what.
Speaker 2: I thought this was was I thought that it was
Speaker 2: some kind of promo for Mission Impossible, for the Mission
Speaker 2: Impossible that was supposed to come out this summer, but
Speaker 2: that has ultimately been delayed. But I thought that Tom
Speaker 2: was just like, I'll just do this stuff.
Speaker 1: We're tying this into Hollywood. This is a welcome to America.
Speaker 1: Hollywood is next this.
Speaker 2: Well, that's cool. I love when sports and entertainment cross.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it'll be cool. They hopefully they will not
Speaker 1: miss the mark, especially since Tom Cruise is doing some
Speaker 1: kind of crazy stunt right Oh, I can't wait to
Speaker 1: see what he does. But overall, take away the opening
Speaker 1: ceremonies very successful Olympic Games. It's been fun to watch,
Speaker 1: fun to dive in, fun to just cheer for these
Speaker 1: people from all walks of life, from all corners of
Speaker 1: our great country.
Speaker 2: Now, of course, there have been the headlines about the
Speaker 2: hookups in the Olympic village. Yes, people were joking, like,
Speaker 2: are the cardboard beds they had made gonna like hold
Speaker 2: up for the hookups. I saw some of the athletes
Speaker 2: jumping on the beds to test them. I think it
Speaker 2: was the women's rugby team. The beds seemed very solid.
Speaker 1: The Paraguayan swimmer got sent home because she's I guess
Speaker 1: been a little too active. Yes, and the Paraguayan contingent
Speaker 1: they sent her home. It wasn't the Olympic committee Paraguay there.
Speaker 1: Their Olympic committee sent her home. She's quite pretty, very
Speaker 1: beautiful model.
Speaker 2: And oh my gosh, I'm reading the headline kicked out
Speaker 2: of Olympic village first inappropriate behavior. Yes, the twenty year
Speaker 2: old athlete who retired from the sport after she had
Speaker 2: failed to advance out of her heat was asked to
Speaker 2: leave for creating an inappropriate environment.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't these people be hooking up?
Speaker 2: These are the best I fully support it.
Speaker 1: These are the most beautiful athletic They are in peak performance,
Speaker 1: the peak time of their lives. Let them procreate.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay. A separate report, The Daily Mail said
Speaker 2: she was deemed a distraction for wearing skimpy clothing and
Speaker 2: socializing with other athletes. Well, first of all, some of
Speaker 2: the uniforms are skimpy. So what do you mean was
Speaker 2: she just in her uniform? Like I mean, if you
Speaker 2: walked around in your beach volleyball custome, if you're in
Speaker 2: your men's speedo, aren't you in skimpy clothing? And I
Speaker 2: agree with you. These are beautiful, incredibly fit people, probably
Speaker 2: a lot of them single, and this is their work.
Speaker 2: Where do you expect them to meet people? They could
Speaker 2: find marriages out of this.
Speaker 1: I would love to see statistics as people leave and
Speaker 1: hear some stories. Are there any Olympic babies coming out
Speaker 1: of the village.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if there ever have been before. But
Speaker 2: this is nothing new. There's always been hookups in the
Speaker 2: Olympic village.
Speaker 1: They started providing condoms in the village at one of
Speaker 1: the Olympics and these look, these people have got it.
Speaker 2: Relax.
Speaker 1: These people are sent up and as soon as they're done,
Speaker 1: it's like time to party. One other baller guy who
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to become famous because I
Speaker 1: think he's probably in hiding now. The Turkish pistol shooters,
Speaker 1: Oh yes, oh my god.
Speaker 2: The joke was is this just a hip man they
Speaker 2: pulled off the street. That was a joke.
Speaker 1: It's like low key. They were like, good job finishing second,
Speaker 1: getting the silver because they didn't want to bring too
Speaker 1: much attention to the guy. So when you're shooting pistols,
Speaker 1: you are usually you have all these contraptions and glasses
Speaker 1: and sights and optics and so you can shoot. He
Speaker 1: walked in nothing as you would call it, as the
Speaker 1: kids would call it, raw dog. He raw dogged the Olympics,
Speaker 1: just held his pistol one hand. No, he had glasses on,
Speaker 1: but they were just for his eyesight. They weren't special
Speaker 1: and just was a champ.
Speaker 2: I saw on Instagram that he's a cat and someone said,
Speaker 2: nobody better ever hurt this cat, or we're gonna have
Speaker 2: a Turkish John Wick on our hands. Seriously, these are
Speaker 2: the fun stories that we love. And speaking of hooking
Speaker 2: up with your fellow athletes, our last headline of this episode.
Speaker 2: So CBS does an article about how the new place
Speaker 2: to meet people like they're dubbing it a new trend
Speaker 2: is inn' run clubs, and Chris and I were just
Speaker 2: honestly kind of laughing about this. On the one hand,
Speaker 2: I'm glad this is happening. In the article they say that,
Speaker 2: you know it's a new trend why more single people
Speaker 2: are ditching online dating and turning to running clubs. Tired
Speaker 2: of spending their days swiping on dating apps, single people
Speaker 2: across the country are now hitting the pavement and joining
Speaker 2: run clubs as a fresh way to meet others. On
Speaker 2: the one hand, so glad this is happening. I think
Speaker 2: dating apps have had their moment, and they've proven that
Speaker 2: they are not very good. Like all the studies that
Speaker 2: I see are like, people are more miserable than ever
Speaker 2: with dating. Dating apps are not good. They encourage like
Speaker 2: It means that if one little thing goes wrong in
Speaker 2: a relationship, at the touch of a swipe, you can
Speaker 2: see what else is out there. People aren't forced to
Speaker 2: work at things. It's depressing. It's all about judging a
Speaker 2: book by its cover. I'm not a dating app fan.
Speaker 2: I think they've had their chance and have proven to
Speaker 2: not be very great. I know a few people who
Speaker 2: have met mostly on Hinge for some reason shout out
Speaker 2: to Hinge, but overall I know more disaster stories than dream.
Speaker 1: Stories or just hook up stories. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I just think this is funny though, because they're
Speaker 2: acting like it's new, right, Like did.
Speaker 1: You just invent meeting people in person? Idiot reminds me,
Speaker 1: you know what it's giving. It's giving The girl who
Speaker 1: during the pandemic said she invented a drink where you
Speaker 1: put vodka and soda together with limes.
Speaker 2: She called it a video. She called it blackout water,
Speaker 2: and it was someone's like, you invented.
Speaker 1: A vodcast, So you these people have invented meeting.
Speaker 2: Just dating, but just literally dating.
Speaker 1: So but while I just I really do believe in this,
Speaker 1: and I really do believe this is a wonderful trend
Speaker 1: that we are getting out of our phones and getting
Speaker 1: back to real life and meeting people. And instead of
Speaker 1: meeting someone at a bar where you are drinking blackout
Speaker 1: water and it's dark and you're drinking, and I love
Speaker 1: the positive daytime and meeting where you're seeing people being athletic,
Speaker 1: being sober being. I love that and it's a very
Speaker 1: safe space because and I was down in downtown Austin
Speaker 1: at a meeting one night and I happen to be
Speaker 1: at this place called the me Night Cat, and apparently
Speaker 1: that's where they meet to go on this running club.
Speaker 2: They meet at a bar.
Speaker 1: I love that because what they do is they run,
Speaker 1: then they end up back at the bar on the
Speaker 1: a beer. So it's kind of both. It's kind of
Speaker 1: cocktail hour and there's different levels of they Because the
Speaker 1: lake is right there, Ladybird Lake that goes kind of
Speaker 1: through downtown Austin. You can run and there's different there's
Speaker 1: different mileages, so you can just run for a mile,
Speaker 1: you can run for the three mile. There's like a
Speaker 1: six mile loop for the more serious. And this is
Speaker 1: kind of this kind of goes along with all the
Speaker 1: walks and all these things. But there were hundreds of
Speaker 1: people at this run, and I was sitting there watching it.
Speaker 1: I quit caring about why I was there and started
Speaker 1: watching this, fascinated at these really attractive young men and
Speaker 1: women getting off work and coming to run together and
Speaker 1: all chatting and talking. And they went and ran, and
Speaker 1: they all came back and settled in and had a
Speaker 1: cold beer, and I'm like, what a wonderful creator.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, no, completely, look there, I'm on board. An
Speaker 2: episode of Sex and the City comes to mind. Keep
Speaker 2: in mind Sex and the City was in the early
Speaker 2: two thousands. There's literally an episode where Miranda meets a
Speaker 2: guy through her run club. Like that. This isn't new,
Speaker 2: it's not new, But again you agree, I'm glad it's happening.
Speaker 1: It's really trending, which I'm happy about.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like how podcasts reinvented radios. I mean,
Speaker 2: I saw a tweet not too long ago where someone
Speaker 2: said I wish there was a live podcast where I
Speaker 2: could get the news really quickly. And someone replied and said,
Speaker 2: that is the radio. It already exists.
Speaker 1: It's called local news.
Speaker 2: But everything old becomes new again, And I agree, I'm glad.
Speaker 2: I think we are in a moment like between us
Speaker 2: kind of like getting to this time now where we're
Speaker 2: seeing how unhealthy it's been for people to grow up
Speaker 2: with social media and for little kids to have screens
Speaker 2: in their hands. You know, people are craving community, they're
Speaker 2: craving things that we all loved years ago. Original movie
Speaker 2: ideas going to do things together in person, not being
Speaker 2: on a screen all the time. And absolutely it is
Speaker 2: better to meet someone in this way. I mean, if
Speaker 2: you can find love on a dating app, find love
Speaker 2: however you can. Everybody has a different story. But do
Speaker 2: I think it's more successful, more statistically likely for you
Speaker 2: to find a good relationship through a communal activity. Absolutely
Speaker 2: I do. And we've lost a lot of those communities,
Speaker 2: like people have their online groups now, but I think
Speaker 2: about my grandparents. They had such a community of people
Speaker 2: through church, you know, through church, through like hanging out
Speaker 2: with their friends were through church or like YMCAs used
Speaker 2: to be a great place for people to go and meet.
Speaker 2: I find especially because we know so many college age
Speaker 2: kids through the kids. Like they have asked us before,
Speaker 2: like how do you make friends after college? And the
Speaker 2: advice I always give them is find an in person
Speaker 2: activity and go do it consistently and wherever you move
Speaker 2: to for your job, like you're going to make friends
Speaker 2: through work, but also join a local run club, join
Speaker 2: something where and go to it consistently, because you might
Speaker 2: not make friends on the first time, but when you
Speaker 2: start to become regular, that's how you meet people.
Speaker 1: The toughest thing in meeting anybody is the icebreaker. What
Speaker 1: is the commonality? What gets the conversation started. If you're
Speaker 1: at a run club and you're just jogging, oh hey,
Speaker 1: well you've been here, you already have a shared injus
Speaker 1: you already have You already have the conversation starter, and
Speaker 1: then if it's interesting, you can move on from that.
Speaker 1: If you're in a bowling league, softball, community, theater, whatever
Speaker 1: it is, there's ways to turn your passion and your
Speaker 1: interests into a way to meet people. If you are lonely,
Speaker 1: if you are looking to meet somebody or whatever. It
Speaker 1: is a great way to when you move and to
Speaker 1: make friends. It didn't have to be a lover, right,
Speaker 1: You can make friends that way. If you're a guy
Speaker 1: and you just moved to Austin and you want to
Speaker 1: meet other dudes, well go meet other dudes that do
Speaker 1: what you do. There's paddle boarding, there's there's all.
Speaker 2: These things I do, like a men's you know, baseball
Speaker 2: team or something like that.
Speaker 1: Get involved. You know.
Speaker 2: The toughest thing they today you are.
Speaker 1: But the toughest thing is the icebreaker. And that is
Speaker 1: such a huge part of it. And that alleviates that,
Speaker 1: and that's one thing that apps our phones cannot overcome.
Speaker 2: And I think don't be discouraged if on the first
Speaker 2: time you don't make a friend, or if, like you know,
Speaker 2: if some activity you try doesn't work out. I think
Speaker 2: when I first moved to la I went to like
Speaker 2: Missoo alumni events, and I just didn't really connect with
Speaker 2: anybody at any of those. I don't probably honestly because
Speaker 2: I think what they always did was meet up to
Speaker 2: watch football games. And I was like, we have the
Speaker 2: shared experience that we went to Miszoo, but we don't
Speaker 2: have the shared experience that I want to be here
Speaker 2: watching this football game. So that didn't work out for me.
Speaker 2: But you know, like I went to the same yoga
Speaker 2: classes over and over again, and I kind of like
Speaker 2: found friends that way. Definitely met people through work, but
Speaker 2: I didn't get along with great with everybody at work.
Speaker 2: So right all, you also have to know that, like,
Speaker 2: not every relationship you pursue is going to be successful.
Speaker 2: Keep trying anyway.
Speaker 1: You got to put yourself out there. As Lauren said,
Speaker 1: not only do you have to go more than once
Speaker 1: showing up once just standing in the corner and no
Speaker 1: one talked to me. You also have to put yourself
Speaker 1: out there, you know, walk around the club and like
Speaker 1: again you have the ice breaker, just bea like, hey,
Speaker 1: it's my first time anything I need to know on
Speaker 1: this run? How many times have you been here? Like boom,
Speaker 1: you're in a conversation. It's very easy because everybody's kind
Speaker 1: of disarmed because they're there for the same run.
Speaker 2: Yeah. There's a great group in Austin if you're here
Speaker 2: for women called No Girl Walks Alone. You and I
Speaker 2: went and kind of surprised them at an event last year.
Speaker 2: They meet every Wednesday at six thirty and it's just
Speaker 2: a walking club and they go and walk and like
Speaker 2: chat and Hot Girl walks. Yeah, started out as a
Speaker 2: trend called Hot Girl Walks. It's now called No Girl
Speaker 2: Walks Alone. If you are here and want to check
Speaker 2: it out, shout out to them. But yeah, I uh,
Speaker 2: what things should what old things should become new again?
Speaker 2: Anything come to mind to you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we've reinvented local news in.
Speaker 2: Radio, walking, running people and media people as humans coming
Speaker 2: together in a human way.
Speaker 1: And I think we also covered movies need to come back,
Speaker 1: like so school.
Speaker 2: Movies, everything old It's time for you to become new again.
Speaker 2: We are ready to come together as a country and
Speaker 2: be unified and hang out together in person and be
Speaker 2: proud to be from America and go see a great
Speaker 2: movie and watch sports and I love it all.
Speaker 1: Oh what a great way to end on that.
Speaker 2: What an incredibly all encompassing way to I'm listen. So
Speaker 2: let's go.
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