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Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Chris Harrison and Lauren Zim coming to you from the

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Speaker 1: home office in Austin, Texas. Hey, everybody, uh so excited

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Speaker 1: to be back and talking to you today after what

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Speaker 1: was a busy separated weekend from each other. Babe.

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Speaker 2: I'm worried about you saying that because after we did

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Speaker 2: the episodes with the divorce coach and Laura Wasserman divorce attorney,

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Speaker 2: I had several people DM me and be like, but

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Speaker 2: this doesn't mean you guys are getting a divorce, right,

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Speaker 2: I feel like, so not have done?

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Speaker 1: Ryan? What have we done? A Ryan interested?

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Speaker 2: No, like said things to confuse people. No, you're not

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Speaker 2: as poetic as Ryan.

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Speaker 1: That's true, That's very true.

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Speaker 2: But no, we're good just because we just always welcome

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Speaker 2: all relationship discussions. So, no, we are not divorcing. And

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Speaker 2: after you said busy separated weekend, no, no, no, we

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Speaker 2: are not separating either.

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Speaker 1: I also did a great episode coming up with a

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Speaker 1: gut health doctor. Everything's fine there too, colonoscopy, all of it.

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Speaker 1: I seriously go back and listen that. We had some

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Speaker 1: great interviews and we kind of we did get on

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Speaker 1: a tangent there. But one thing led to another when

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Speaker 1: we had never heard about a divorce coach, and we

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Speaker 1: dove into that, and then we had this amazing probably

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Speaker 1: the foremost divorce lawyer on to talk about divorce. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you had if it was negative though, that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: It was actually very positive. No.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'd actually never talked to Laura Wasserman before,

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Speaker 2: despite covering her celebrity divorce cases many times for Entertainment Tonight,

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Speaker 2: and she has this reputation of being fierce in the courtroom,

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Speaker 2: so I was so surprised by how chill and very

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Speaker 2: positive about relationships. She was not jaded at all, just

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Speaker 2: very empathetic about it all. And so I thought, well,

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Speaker 2: that must be why she gets so much business, because

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Speaker 2: she's going to be kind of this pitbull on your side,

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Speaker 2: but also be really human about the process. And if

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Speaker 2: you haven't listen to that episode, go give it a

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Speaker 2: listen because you are getting a lot of free, very

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Speaker 2: good divorce lawyer advice in that episode. I had people

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Speaker 2: from et DM me and say, oh, wow, you guys

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Speaker 2: had Laura Walser on, like she's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, give those a listen, but no, these

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Speaker 1: were very positive trips. But the reason I was bringing

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Speaker 1: them up, we couldn't have had more different weekends. We

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Speaker 1: did a one to eighty. You were on a girl's trip.

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Speaker 2: That's what you mean by separated. We just literally weren't together.

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Speaker 1: We weren't together because you had your annual girls trip,

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Speaker 1: which is a rite of passage, and it is this

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Speaker 1: amazing thing that you and your amazing group of women

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Speaker 1: do your friends from college and I went on a

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Speaker 1: very very boys trip.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know if i'd call it a write

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Speaker 2: of passage, but it's a pact that we've made to

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Speaker 2: every year together. And I've said this before, so I'm

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Speaker 2: sorry if you're hearing me repeat myself. But I also

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Speaker 2: can't say it enough. I think in this day and

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Speaker 2: age of cell phones and social media, we all feel connected,

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Speaker 2: but there is nothing like in person connection to fill

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Speaker 2: your soul, to fill your emotional cup, to make unforgettable memories.

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Speaker 2: And what my girlfriends and I did my sorority sisters.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Cap Alpha Theta for changing my life forever.

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Speaker 2: We made an agreement. Right after college. We kind of

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Speaker 2: but we made an agreement to every single year we

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Speaker 2: And so we do it every year, and we just

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Speaker 2: of other weeks of my year. We all look forward

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Speaker 2: to it so much, and it just like brings us

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Speaker 2: we did it all.

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Speaker 1: We shot guns. Okay, I went to by the way,

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Speaker 1: East Texas. The best gun range in Texas, meadow Ridge

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Speaker 1: gun Range and out it's meadow Ridge Outdoors. Not just guns,

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the core for you. Hunted, you fished,

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Speaker 2: you honky tonked, and you golf.

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Speaker 1: So and it was a spectacular weekend.

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Speaker 2: And again, how much did you share emotionally and cry?

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Speaker 2: This is what's funny, talk about your fears and your stresses.

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Speaker 1: And Laurne and I were sending each other videos as

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Speaker 1: we often do when we're texting back and forth, how

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Speaker 1: is your weekend, How is your weekend? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: I would send videos of us shooting guns. You sent

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Speaker 1: So Siue, you know you're sitting around, there was a

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Speaker 2: I mean actually, honestly on this trip we didn't do

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, it's very enriching to always be

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Speaker 1: I think our version of that, the guys version, whether

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Speaker 2: I mean in my family we don't have like, we

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Speaker 2: assumed god parents were like chosen friends, not family members.

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Speaker 1: It could be anything, it can be totally.

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Speaker 2: But I also would assume you would say nephews before

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Speaker 2: you'd say god sons. God sons first.

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Speaker 1: They're both, They're are all those things biological family.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you know, maybe it is a geographical thing

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Speaker 2: So you knew that I was just getting my nature

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Speaker 2: My friends know me very well and they were all saying, zeems,

434
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Speaker 2: this is a pretty naturry location. How are you going

435
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Speaker 2: to do here? It was a little buggy, but hey,

436
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Speaker 2: you know, I handled it. I like an adventure. I

437
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 2: will say that if we ever, if anyone ever suggests camping,

438
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Speaker 2: I don't think I want to do that one. But

439
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Speaker 2: it was cabminding. All right, We're going to be back

440
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Speaker 2: with some headlines, okay, everyone from our personal headlines too,

441
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 2: headlines all over the place. We wanted to talk about

442
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Speaker 2: a few things in our world, the entertainment world going on.

443
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Speaker 2: First of all, this headline from Sabrina Carpenter. I wanted

444
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Speaker 2: to bring this up to you, babe, because you were

445
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 2: in the industry for such a long time. I'm Sabrina

446
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 2: Carpenter's having a real moment right now. Lots of hit

447
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 2: songs opened for Taylor Swift, like killing It, and she

448
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 2: revealed in a new interview with Variety that maybe her

449
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Speaker 2: biggest hit of the past few months the song Espresso

450
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Speaker 2: and you know it that higher ups, she said didn't

451
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Speaker 2: want to release the song, that she had to convince them,

452
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 2: and wow, did her sticking to her, you know, her

453
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Speaker 2: standing her ground pay off because it was such a

454
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Speaker 2: massive hit. And you see that a lot in our industry,

455
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Speaker 2: especially now when decisions are made with algorithms and AI

456
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Speaker 2: and tech people at the top making these decisions instead

457
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Speaker 2: of creative people. Were you ever in a moment like

458
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Speaker 2: that with any of the shows you did where you

459
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Speaker 2: like pushed for something creatively and maybe you got your

460
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Speaker 2: way or didn't.

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Speaker 1: All the time, Yeah, it happens all the time, and

462
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Speaker 1: it's that and you're right. It is this intersection of

463
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Speaker 1: corporate executives and many executives who get to the level

464
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Speaker 1: of at all these networks or streamers or whatever, and

465
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Speaker 1: they've never actually created anything. They've never produced right, they're

466
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Speaker 1: not producers. They who knows where they came from. And

467
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Speaker 1: that's not to knock on them, because they have gone risen,

468
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Speaker 1: you know, on the ladder their way, and clearly they

469
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Speaker 1: were good at what they did, but they will get

470
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Speaker 1: to a point where they got to cross over and

471
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Speaker 1: instead of maybe leaning on someone creative, they are thinking, well,

472
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Speaker 1: I've been good at this, so I'm good at everything,

473
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Speaker 1: and you have to fight like the Dickens. And I

474
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Speaker 1: think the best lesson I will learn is figure out

475
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Speaker 1: whichhill you want to die on. And for her it

476
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Speaker 1: a Sabrina Carpenter. I'm guessing she's like, this is the

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Speaker 1: hill I'm going to die on. This single needs to

478
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Speaker 1: be out in the world. I want this launched. And

479
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Speaker 1: you win some of these fights, and you lose some

480
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Speaker 1: of these fights, and they're probably good at what they do,

481
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Speaker 1: but they're not good at everything, and they have blind

482
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Speaker 1: spots too, and it's okay to point out these blind

483
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Speaker 1: spots and to fight for what you believe in creatively.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is, at the end of the day,

485
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Speaker 1: if you're not the executive producer, if you're not the boss,

486
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Speaker 1: you're not going to have the final say and sometimes

487
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Speaker 1: you have to eat it and you got to swallow

488
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Speaker 1: your pride and you got to go do the show

489
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Speaker 1: that you don't think was probably very good.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything specific that comes to mind for you,

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Speaker 2: a time when you fought and you made it and

492
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Speaker 2: it worked so well, or a time when you thought, man,

493
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Speaker 2: they really should have listened to me on that one.

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Speaker 1: There was a we're in the middle of an election.

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Speaker 1: The last two elections ago, this would have been Trump

496
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Speaker 1: and Hillary. And the thing about The Bachelor is it's

497
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Speaker 1: never been political. I don't think people tune in to

498
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Speaker 1: The Bachelor because they're on the left of the right

499
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Speaker 1: or whatever. I don't care, and we've never cared. The

500
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Speaker 1: point is you want to escape. That's what I thought

501
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Speaker 1: the show was about. And one of our creators, one

502
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Speaker 1: of the bosses, was just a hardcore lefty, big Democrat,

503
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Speaker 1: and he wanted me to make And this is in

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Speaker 1: the middle of a tape show, as women.

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Speaker 2: Tell all, was it live?

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Speaker 1: No, it wasn't live, So we're taping it. And in

507
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Speaker 1: the middle of the show, they would get my ear

508
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Speaker 1: They often do that. They would get my air and

509
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Speaker 1: say literally an earpiece and say, hey, they want you

510
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Speaker 1: to say this. They want you to say that. Ask

511
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Speaker 1: this question. Most of the time, very productive, very good.

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Speaker 1: This one time, in the middle of this, he wanted

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Speaker 1: me to make a Trump joke and say something positive

514
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Speaker 1: about Hill, and it was just we I've never done that.

515
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Speaker 1: In the twenty years I've been on the show. We've

516
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Speaker 1: never made a political joke, never made an innu window

517
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Speaker 1: of any sort of politics. And so I looked at

518
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Speaker 1: my direct camera because they I wasn't on camera, but

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Speaker 1: they could see me, and I just shook my head no,

520
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Speaker 1: and he got my air and said it again. They

521
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Speaker 1: want you to say this. He said no, and then

522
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Speaker 1: they got back and said, you know where this is

523
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Speaker 1: coming from. You know who's asking. They want you to

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Speaker 1: say this, And I again shook my head no. Go

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Speaker 1: to commercial break, stop, Chris. They want you up in

526
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Speaker 1: the control room. They called me up to the control

527
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Speaker 1: room and I got absolutely verbally assaulted, screaming at me.

528
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Speaker 1: There's thirty people in the room, and you know it's funny.

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Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. Remember who's the woman that runs

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Speaker 1: It's Kelly. They were there because the Dallas Cowboy Chiliders

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Speaker 1: were in an Oxnard for training camp. And I invited

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Speaker 1: them and they were all there. They were in the

533
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Speaker 1: next room, and they heard it. He was screaming at

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Speaker 1: me of like, this is how this works. I tell

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Speaker 1: you what to say, and you say it. And so

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Speaker 1: I stood my ground and I didn't make a political joke.

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Speaker 1: And so that's one where I'm glad I stood make

538
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Speaker 1: ground because that's what we never stood for that. We

539
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: never wanted to fight that battle or that's not what

540
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: the show's about. It's about you escaping. And so that

541
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Speaker 1: was one that really stood out where I got absolutely

542
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Speaker 1: verbally abused in front of everybody, just got absolutely undressed.

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Speaker 1: And then I went back down and I said, all right,

544
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Speaker 1: well you know I agree to disagree. I'm going to

545
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Speaker 1: go do the show I was going to do. And

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Speaker 1: I left and never did it.

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Speaker 2: You were glad you sucked to your Well, yeah, it's

548
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 2: no place for that on the show. I think people

549
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,360
Speaker 2: would be surprised by how many times you were in

550
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: situations like that when you were kind of having to

551
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Speaker 2: fight what should be said or shouldn't be said behind

552
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Speaker 2: the scenes, because you and I both shared this difficulty.

553
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Speaker 2: You're working for a big brand and company and multiple

554
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Speaker 2: companies behind the scenes, but it's your name the TV

555
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: and it's you who's speaking with the words coming out

556
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: of your mouth. Like that's a big difference to me

557
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: between hosting and acting. When you're an actor, you're beholden

558
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: to a lot of companies, sure, and you have bosses,

559
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 2: but you're playing a character. When you're a host, you're

560
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: beholden to all these people, but it's like, you got

561
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: to say this stuff. There were definitely times at ET

562
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Speaker 2: when I creatively disagreed with questions they wanted me to

563
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Speaker 2: ask the ways that they wanted me to ask things,

564
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Speaker 2: but I had to do it at certain times. And

565
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Speaker 2: when I look back, and I think it's a lesson

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Speaker 2: for anybody in your work environment, Like, sure, you have

567
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 2: to do things sometimes at your job that you don't

568
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: want to do. But when I look back, the thing

569
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Speaker 2: that I'm proudest of at ET was Roses and Rose

570
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 2: and that was creatively pretty much completely me. And I

571
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Speaker 2: think that's in part why I'm so proud of it,

572
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Speaker 2: because I got to do this like weird, quirky show

573
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Speaker 2: the way that I wanted to do it, and I'm

574
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Speaker 2: really grateful for my boss, Shana, who green lit it

575
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Speaker 2: in the first place, because in the beginning you could

576
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Speaker 2: have looked at it and said, like, what is this

577
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Speaker 2: and it wasn't really like the et vibe. But I

578
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: guess I'll toot my own horn and say, I think

579
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Speaker 2: that's what happens when people allow creatives to do their thing.

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00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: That became CBS's number one original digital show. And if

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Speaker 2: you're worried, a piece of advice I would give if

582
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: you're trying to figure out how to do your own

583
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: thing at work is like tell them, like, start with

584
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 2: small resources, because that is more likely to get you

585
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Speaker 2: a green light. Like when I started doing Roses and Rose,

586
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: I said I just need me and like one editor,

587
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: that's all that I need. And that, truly, by the way,

588
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: was pretty much what it was up until the end.

589
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: We eventually had two camera guys and I had a

590
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Speaker 2: producer who helped me a little bit with pulling footage show.

591
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: So the team did eventually grow, But in the beginning

592
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Speaker 2: that was kind of how I got it green lit.

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Speaker 2: And you know, then when you proven the success of something,

594
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Speaker 2: then you get more re sources for it. I do

595
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Speaker 2: think sometimes people today, everybody's like, well, this is my idea,

596
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: and they want like don't put the cart before the horse,

597
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: you know, get the product and then get the budget

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Speaker 2: after that. But I wanted to give a shout out

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Speaker 2: to Sabrina Carpenter for sticking her guns on that and

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Speaker 2: it worked.

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Speaker 1: And that kind of leads into another, like very interesting

602
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Speaker 1: interview we just saw.

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Speaker 2: So Vince Vaughan was on Hot Ones, which if you

604
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: haven't ever heard of it is ever do that you won't.

605
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: It's the show where you eat you progressively eat spicier

606
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: and spicier hot sauce on wings are all being interviewed.

607
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Speaker 1: If he started with mayonnaise and went to catch.

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00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: Up, Oh yeah, because you can't have I well.

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Speaker 1: The show, but I mean I can't do paste Peccani sauce.

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Speaker 1: I mean that show would I would, I would be

611
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Speaker 1: in the hospital.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what sauce you just mentioned, but so

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Speaker 2: I guess I'll give another point of reference for people

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Speaker 2: about how wimpy Chris is about spice. If there is

615
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Speaker 2: a jalapeno, a single slice of jalapeno to be found

616
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Speaker 2: on his sandwich, in his drink, like we are not

617
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Speaker 2: going for at spicy margarita with this man, And every

618
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Speaker 2: time he eats or drinks anything that like he didn't

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Speaker 2: know was even a little bit spicy. His eyes start

620
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Speaker 2: to water and he goes, it's gotta look kick to it,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my god, it sure does not.

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Speaker 1: That was teen or if I ever went on the show,

623
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Speaker 1: I would just always answer honestly, because you don't have

624
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Speaker 1: to eat if you answer correctly.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's not part of the premise.

626
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: The premise is just you keep eating and they keep answering.

627
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Speaker 2: It's not like an either or When people do that show,

628
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Speaker 2: they're just signing up for the comedy of their own pain.

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Speaker 1: I just I couldn't do it. I really, I honestly

630
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Speaker 1: physically couldn't do it.

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Speaker 2: You would throw up for sure, that could be.

632
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Speaker 1: But I love the show and Vince Bond was on

633
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: and he was fantastic.

634
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Speaker 2: So he spoke about and I was a little frustrated

635
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: because his quotes were very you know, it's part of

636
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: the reason why I'm a little I've pulled back from

637
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: my own industry of the media, but they were taken

638
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: out of context by a lot of people. He gave

639
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: this really thoughtful answer to why his the thing that

640
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: kind of made him famous. Our rated movies like that

641
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: aren't made anymore.

642
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: Wedding crashers, old School.

643
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: Just Dodgeball, Yeah, great movies, movies that we all love

644
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: un quote. So he gave an answer about like you know,

645
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: the people green lighting the movies, like maybe you know,

646
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: they don't exactly know what works or not. But he

647
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Speaker 2: also pointed out that a big issue has been this

648
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Speaker 2: need for IP intellectual property over the past ten years

649
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: or so, and we all see it. If you know it,

650
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: go see any movies you see it. It's like things

651
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: like Battleship the movie got made, and he points out,

652
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: like why was the game Battleship? Why did that? There

653
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: was no storytelling in that movie. But people just executives

654
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: just think we need IP to make something because they're

655
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: pulling from well, the Marvel movies were successful and and

656
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: that's all this known IP. And he made the point like, well,

657
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: what do we consider IP, Like he brought up John Hughes.

658
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: He said, the IP of the brilliance of John Hughes'

659
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: movies is like sixteen Candles was the known IP of

660
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: what it's like for a girl to turn sixteen, or

661
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: Ferris Bueller's Day Off was the IP of you know,

662
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: kids skipping a day of school.

663
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: Twenty half of age stories first love that that too

664
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: is incredible intellectual property and.

665
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: That has been lost. And I think he was so right.

666
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: You know, he mentioned old school. The idea there is

667
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: what if you could go back to your college days

668
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: and now? And I just wanted to talk about it

669
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: a minute because I saw, like the Hollywood Reporter posted

670
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 2: on Instagram just one of the quotes he said where

671
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: he kind of said, do people you know, people want

672
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: to laugh and people want to be funny, and that

673
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: kind of was construed into people in the comments. He

674
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: was saying, people want to laugh and we just have

675
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: to give them better material. So I thought his answer

676
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: was brilliant. You said you'd separately seen this clip. What

677
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: did you think?

678
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: Well, And to further your point, what he said about

679
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: the intellectual property is that the executives making the decisions

680
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: on movies are searching and seeking out intellectual property because

681
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: they're hiding behind it. They are just protecting their jobs

682
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: because then they can say, well, look, battleship failed. It

683
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: was a colossal failure at the box office, but we

684
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: had the intellectual property, you know, we used it. So

685
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: it is basically them playing it safe. Executives playing it

686
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: safe so they protect their jobs and they're not taking

687
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: risks like old school, like Ferris Bueller's day Off, like

688
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: all those.

689
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: All and he's signed with empathy. He said, I understand

690
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: it people, you know, they don't want to lose their job.

691
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: But I think that's totally true. If you say, well, yeah,

692
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: the movie was a failure, but like I followed the

693
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: intellectual property model, then you're going to be okay. The

694
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: problem there is that overall the company goes into decline

695
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: and the industry goes into decline. But I saw it

696
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: at CBS too. It's people like just wanting to get

697
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: to their retirement, like standing on the deck of the

698
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: ship as it is sinking and hoping that they can

699
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: just make it to shore before it does, and it

700
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: ultimately hurts so many more people.

701
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: I think you have this idea again that the people

702
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: above you are in it to win it just like

703
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: you are, like to be creative and to be innovative,

704
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: to really push the envelope, and they're not.

705
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: They're not. They're not. Most of That's what I meant

706
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: by falling up earlier. It is the rare executive that

707
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: has gotten there because they are a creative visionary. But

708
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 2: that rare standout of a person makes people think that

709
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: that human is in every job, and they're not. So

710
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: many of those people have just fallen up. We're just

711
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: made the decisions, like Ben Swannes is saying, of like

712
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 2: not ruffled too many feathers, and so they keep getting promoted.

713
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, recent history is showing probably what he's kind of

714
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: revolting against, and that is Barbie did incredibly well. Heavy Ip, Deadpool,

715
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: Wolverine are rated R. These are rated R movies.

716
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 2: By the way, Twisters it was a kind of a sequel.

717
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like, man, it's like, but there's got

718
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: to be room in the Jennifer Lawrence and Glenn pal

719
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: also had some movies come out that were kind of independent.

720
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: They weren't intellectual property, and they were good comedies.

721
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: The Fall, Hard Feelings and Anyone but.

722
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: You the Fall Guy intellectual property. So you know, I

723
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: don't know if there's a rhyme or reason, but what

724
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: he's saying is the reason they're choosing. If we have

725
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: two great scripts, two great ideas, we're going to choose

726
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: intellectual property because we can hide behind that. We're not

727
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 1: going to take a flyer on this. And we're hearing

728
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: more and more of these stories about you know, a

729
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: jet Appatau show or Ben Still or whatever, and these

730
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: shows are not getting greenlit and not getting picked up.

731
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: These executives are not taking it for me.

732
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: Like what I would have added to what Vince said

733
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 2: is is what you just said. I think the issue

734
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: is a lack of risk taking, and that lack of

735
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: risk taking is coming from people being afraid to lose

736
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: their jobs. But like Barbie, yes there was IP there,

737
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: but it was written in such an unexpected way he

738
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 2: did with it, so yeah. Or Oppenheimer, well there's that

739
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 2: he's a known person. But like the way Christopher Nolan

740
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: made that movie anyone but you. The Glenn Powell Sidney

741
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: Sweeney movie is loosely based on Shakespeare's Much Ado about Nothing,

742
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: So like all these things actually did have what you

743
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: might call IP, but they did it in a new

744
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,959
Speaker 2: and fun way. And that's the thing is I think

745
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: that it's like, Okay, do it based on IP, but

746
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: be risk taking with it, like I think Deadpool has

747
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: done so well because Ryan Reynolds just so leaned into

748
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 2: like this is actually going to be the most intense

749
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: rated R movie, like it's not a superhero movie for

750
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: the family, and so I wish the risks were taken more.

751
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: But both vincevonn and Sabrina Carpenter are talking about the

752
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: same thing, which is we need to get back to

753
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: risk taking and creativity. Because what I can tell you

754
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: is that every movie and every song that's like ever

755
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: touched anybody came from people. It came from something that

756
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: people like connected to in their hearts. It didn't come

757
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: from like, oh, I played the ship Battleship or I

758
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 2: played the game Battleship as a kid. It didn't come

759
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: from like like Barbie wasn't big because it was like,

760
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: oh I played with a Barbie as a kid. It

761
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: was big because of the statements that made about women

762
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: and how women related to the moments and the movie

763
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: like The Bachelor. I don't know. I guess you could

764
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: argue the ip there is everybody wants to find love,

765
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 2: everybody wants to get married.

766
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the oldest story in the book. We all

767
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: want love, we all want to belong, we all want

768
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: to be a part of something special and watch it.

769
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: But people connected to the shower and I think The

770
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 2: problem I'm saying is soulless movies are being made. It's

771
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: not really about where you get the idea. It's like,

772
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 2: is the movie a good movie or is it just

773
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 2: a soulless movie that somebody made because they thought, well,

774
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: we have this intellectual property, and if we just check

775
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 2: these boxes and just bam out a script and throw

776
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: a lot of money at the action sequences, well then

777
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: it's going to be a box officer.

778
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 1: You know. It's funny and you mentioned television, and there's

779
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: so many stories of great art that nobody wanted to do.

780
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: Survivor No one wanted to touch that. With a thousand

781
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: foot poll, it's the longest running, most successful reality show

782
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: on TV bar none. It was on a year or

783
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: so before The Bachelor. It went around over and over

784
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: and over and Barnette finding was.

785
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: Like he was pitching it and no one wanted to

786
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: really I want.

787
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: To touch it. Mark Burnette's finally like, fine, I'm just

788
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: going to buy the I'm on CBS, and they did.

789
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,959
Speaker 1: The Bachelor was passed around, you know, all over town,

790
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: dancing with the stars. I remember being in the in

791
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: the in the control room when they were talking about

792
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: this dancing show. Nobody wanted it. It went around to every network,

793
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: everybody passed. It's that is a story oldest time. But

794
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: great art often is kind of misunderstood and then it's

795
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: hard to find. But I think art is suffering right now.

796
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: It really is with whether it's the music industry, whether

797
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: it's movies, whether it's television. Everybody's looking for a correction

798
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: and nobody's found it yet. No one's kind of figured

799
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: out the way. I think the strike obviously hurt us.

800
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: And there's finally we went to the movies, and we

801
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: went to Deadpool the other night, and we finally saw

802
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: several very interesting movies coming up and like Wicked intellectual Property,

803
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: Yeah that's coming up, Beetlejuice, intellectual property, that's coming up.

804
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 2: Although Vince Vaughn did say he was like, I think

805
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: we're heading towards a turn and feels like I agree,

806
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 2: it feels like it. I feel hopeful. I think that

807
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: because I think actually what's helped is that Deadpool, aside

808
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 2: the past couple Marvel movies have not hit that number

809
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 2: in the same way. Now, granted they just pulled Robert

810
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: Downey Junior to now play Doctor Doom, so they're still

811
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: trying to like kind of reinvent the Marvel movie thing

812
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: and reinvigorate it because it's such a cash cow. But

813
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 2: I do think that those signs of audience fatigue will

814
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: hopefully bring like some of you know, it's like everything

815
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: old becomes new again. Try the rom com again. You know,

816
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: we all want to see a rom com, so we'll see.

817
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: But I just thought Vince Vaughn probably put it better

818
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: than anybody I've heard.

819
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: Saying eliquent by the way, I was kind of bombed

820
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: a that anybody gave him grief for that. Like, go

821
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: listen to the interview, which nobody does anymore, but go

822
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: listen to what he said. He was very articulate, very eloquent.

823
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: I've never heard Vince Vaughn actually speak from the heart

824
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: like that, and I really enjoyed his insight. It was

825
00:39:50,480 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: really fantastic to listen to speaking of success and intellectual

826
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: property the Olympics.

827
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: What's the intellectual property of the Olympics.

828
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: Those rings, No, the Olympic IOC, the International Olympic Committee. There,

829
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: it's killing it. I was I was very interested. I

830
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: was looking up the ratings. The ratings are soaring, they

831
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: are smashing records. And I was wondering how well this

832
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: would do because I used to dislike the Olympics when

833
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: they were overseas because you would just go to NBC

834
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: at night and they would do their primetime coverage and

835
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: you would only get what they got. So it's like

836
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: this slow trickle. There's a thousand sports going on and

837
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: you just got what they wanted you to see. Well,

838
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: now we're kind of in this new modern era where

839
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: we're really drinking from a fire hydrant. It's almost too much,

840
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: and I was thinking, is it too broad? We're on USA,

841
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: we're on TNT, we're on Peacock, we're on NBC, We're

842
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: on CNBC and MSNBC. There's sports everywhere. You turn on

843
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: YouTube TV and there's like that. It's just so much.

844
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: It's an assault on the census. So I thought, are

845
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: we so scattered? And then Mike Tarico, who is phenomenal,

846
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: he's a legend, and he is hosting for NBC this

847
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: year and a great choice to host the primetime coverage,

848
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: and he's really doing a good job. And NBC's still

849
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: they're still They've done a brilliant job of somehow making

850
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: it fresh at night even though all the sports are

851
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: taking place during the day here in America.

852
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 2: What about Mike Trica? What do you like?

853
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: You they've just done it. They just do a good

854
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: job of I've watched a lot of this stuff during

855
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: the day because that's the other thing is, so back

856
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: in the day, you would never see what's going on

857
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: in the middle of the day in France, you know,

858
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: primetime there, so we wouldn't know. Like maybe you could

859
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: see it eventually on the computer and stuff as things

860
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: were coming out, but you didn't get to see it

861
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: till at night. So say Carl Lewis won the one

862
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: hundred meter dash, he's the fastest man in the world,

863
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: or maybe the long jump, you would see that at

864
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: seven o'clock tonight when NBC decided to show it. Same

865
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: thing with you know some owe Biles and our gymnastics team.

866
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: I watch them during the day, but somehow they repackaged

867
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: it and made it fresh at night as well.

868
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: They do. You just think they're doing a good job.

869
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: I know, I think they've done a fabulous job.

870
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: I haven't been watching it as intently as you because sports.

871
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: But what I do love is when sports get emotional

872
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: and the Olympics. That's the Olympics. I mean, when you

873
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: see someone who's been working so long, the fact that

874
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: it's every four years they've come here to like make

875
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 2: their dreams come true. When it is you know, typically

876
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: a lot of people you've never heard of before and

877
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: then this is their moment, you know their lives are

878
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: going to change. And the fact that we can come

879
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 2: together and even though to be honest, I've i haven't

880
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 2: felt as much unity as I've wanted, but like support

881
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 2: each other as a country. I think the controversy around

882
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: the opening ceremonies put a bit of a stain on

883
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: like the unity feeling of it. But still it's like

884
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: we're coming together pride in America, like we need this

885
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: right now. I mean, I love America. I'm so grateful

886
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 2: I'm from America and to see people champions hoist up

887
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: the flag and be proud is definitely something that we

888
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: need right now. I think just today, as we're recording this,

889
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: we had just watched Gabby Thomas, our fellow Austin resident

890
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: graduate of UT I know she's originally from Atlanta, but

891
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 2: she lives here in Texas. Now just kill it in

892
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: am I getting this right babe. The two hundred meter dash. Yeah, absolutely.

893
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what event I'm watching, but I do

894
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: know that I love seeing her pull ahead of the

895
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 2: pack and then like cry and be joyful and see

896
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: her family and hold up the flag and.

897
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 1: Boss Harvard grad.

898
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, she's gorgeous, smart athletic. Like I just

899
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: tope her career skyrockets from here. And I know she's

900
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: already doing very well, but what an achiever, what an

901
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: all star. Congrats to Gabby.

902
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: I love watching her and she's she's been the darling

903
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: of our tracting. We're you know they It's one of

904
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: those things we there is. The thing about sports is

905
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: interesting is there's the expectations and in track and field

906
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: when you're talking about the one hundred meter dash and

907
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: if y'all watch it the other night, the American one

908
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: and I mean Jerry Seinfeld actually has a good bit

909
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: that's resurfaced where he's like the difference at the Olympics

910
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: where you're Mount Rushmore immortalized, your a legend and he

911
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: kind of like there's a nose, right, he sticks this

912
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: legend and he pulls his head back forgotten never heard

913
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: of meaning milliseconds can separate someone from the greatest achievement

914
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: in the history of sports and someone who's obsolete. It's

915
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: like that that amount, that razor thin edge is fascinating

916
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 1: to watch.

917
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: Well. The level of competition I've also seen going around

918
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: on like Instagram and stuff the past couple days, people

919
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: comparing footage from decades ago versus now, Like how much

920
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 2: more athletic people are now, how much more they're doing

921
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: in their sport is just wild. The level of achievement

922
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: and the level of competition.

923
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: When they have the side by side swimming from like

924
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: you know, the thirties or whatever to work.

925
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: The gymnastics basically decades ago, they're just kind of like

926
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: doing a flip and now you look at Simone Biles

927
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: is doing seventeen flips.

928
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: If you saw what Nadia comany Each did or even

929
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: Mary lou Rettin was at ninety four Olympics in La

930
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: it just doesn't compare to what Simone Bials and those

931
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: ladies did.

932
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: Can I say something that's a little bit sad, but well,

933
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: one thing that's put in perspective for me is how

934
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: trash our healthcare system and like the food that we

935
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: get for normal people are not is now because when

936
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: you see these Olympians, you realize how fit we all

937
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 2: could be. Like, the reason they're in such great shape

938
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: now is the advance of research and science and technology

939
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: and awareness of what does well for the human body. Right,

940
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: But like, the average American is so much less healthy

941
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: than they were all those decades ago. Yea, Like our

942
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 2: Olympians are in better shape, but our average American is

943
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: in worse shape. So anyway, that's just like literally kind

944
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: of a side depressing note and a reminder to eat

945
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 2: naturally and get out and walk outside, every buddy.

946
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: The stories. A couple of stories that stood out to

947
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: me that aren't that we're kind of off the front

948
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: pages are women's rugby team I've fallen in love with.

949
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: I started watching the seven on seven rugby, which is

950
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: so fun to watch, but we won a gold medal

951
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: and it was they are They were so fun and

952
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: I've been following a couple of them on social media

953
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: and they are just cracking me up. Speaking of Harvard grads,

954
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: this thirty one year old Harvard grad who won the

955
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: gold medal in US in open road cycling. Her name

956
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: is Kristin Faulkner, who didn't grow up cycling. She moved

957
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: to New York and she grew up in the outdoors

958
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: and just wanted to pick it up. So she was

959
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: cycling around Central Park. Wasn't even like meant to be

960
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: in this, but whoever was going to ride for us

961
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: backed out. She got in and destroyed the competition, made

962
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: this late move at the end and just took off

963
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: from the most heralded cyclists in the world, you know,

964
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: the Dutch, the French, the Italians, the people that are

965
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: known for cycling. And this American woman absolutely pulled away

966
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: in the gutsiest performance and just destroyed the field. And

967
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: she is what a crazy story. She grew up in

968
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: like Alaska, then went and then she moved to San

969
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: Francisco because she was in a financial district and working

970
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: as a financial analyst. Just a wild story.

971
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 2: Well again, that's what's cool about the Olympics, right is

972
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: anybody do something else? I know? And it is I

973
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: have loved the NBC has done some incredible little like

974
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: mini bio like mini biography videos. Yes on them. And

975
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: you see you know a guy who's like literally working

976
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: a day job and he like a remote I don't know,

977
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: he's a job in marketing, or something, and he's like,

978
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 2: and then I train at night for the Olympics.

979
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: It's so impressive what these people are sponsored by other people.

980
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: So okay, if you if it was like Chris, you

981
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: need to pick a sport tomorrow to try to become

982
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: an Olympian in what do you think you have the

983
00:47:59,040 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: best chance at.

984
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm the best chance at soccer?

985
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 2: Are there soccer Olympics?

986
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: Yes?

987
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 2: Are they part of this?

988
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: The men got knocked out, Yeah, the US men got

989
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: knocked out. The women the women, uh just moved on today.

990
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: We're taping this on Tuesday, and the women just advanced

991
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 1: big running Germany.

992
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 2: Overall. Are our gals doing better from America? I've heard

993
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: more about obviously our women's gymnastics team. Congrats to them

994
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: killing it ladies. And then like in the pool DECKI yeah, yeah,

995
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: there's that one. No, No, I'm trying to think I've

996
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 2: heard a lot more. Well, I mean with the pommel

997
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: horse guy, he crushed it.

998
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: His life is said. I love the people whose lives

999
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,959
Speaker 1: are literally changing as you see.

1000
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: Yes. Well, and that's a beautiful thing about social media

1001
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: is that you know, in years past, the few and

1002
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: far between Olympians would get like a Wheaties box cover

1003
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 2: and they make some money. But social media has made

1004
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: it so that these Olympians can get true careers on

1005
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: Instagram or whatever out of working so hard for this achievement.

1006
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, I've definitely can think of more like female

1007
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: stories out of the Olympics and Mail well, I.

1008
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: Mean one of the biggest stories in the pool of

1009
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: the Alma Shan. But you know what's interesting is a

1010
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: lot of these French, a lot of these people though

1011
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: we're talking about our American well, they basically are American.

1012
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 2: Uh Like he went to school in the Arizona right.

1013
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, he went to Arizona State and he trained with

1014
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: Michael Phelps and Bowman, the kid who.

1015
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 2: Are eltally surprising myself with my amount of not right now.

1016
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: I think it's just because of social media.

1017
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: You watched pole vaul lesson by the way, did you

1018
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: see the gentleman Unfortunately, and we know he's a gentleman

1019
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: that lost the pole vault because his manhood.

1020
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: I think we can say penis. The headlines said his

1021
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: man tackle. That that's a redneck word for penis. His

1022
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 2: penis knocked him out. He lost literally he knocked Yeah, yeah,

1023
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 2: well that you know if you're going to go out,

1024
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 2: at least didn't just fall into face. That's that's the

1025
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 2: way that's going to get people talking in a good way.

1026
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's going to get lost. He'll get

1027
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 1: some interesting endorsements after this is over. But the young

1028
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: man who.

1029
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 2: Won, there's always stories about the hookups.

1030
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: And he broke his own world record. Armand du plantis Swedish.

1031
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: He won for Sweden last night. His parents are the

1032
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: coaches at LSU, ran track at LSU. He's at LSU,

1033
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: and he went over and did an interview. He sounds

1034
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: more redneck and American than I do. And a lot

1035
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: of what's cool is you see a lot of these women,

1036
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: like we were watching track today, they all race against

1037
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: each other at American colleges. You know, most of them

1038
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 1: are at American universities, and it's which is really cool.

1039
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: There's a lot of Austin ut swimmers, runners from the

1040
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: University of Texas and the Olympics, so it's kind of

1041
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: fun to keep up with where everybody's from. But over all,

1042
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: the Olympics, I think, you know, look, I know the

1043
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: opening ceremonies were politically a disaster and they really missed

1044
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: the mark. But they're French. What do you expect?

1045
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: I mean, the French are a little more naked than

1046
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 2: the rest of By the way, I'm not like defending it.

1047
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: I know it was silly and it missed the mark,

1048
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: and I think.

1049
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: It missed the mark. And I've talked to my friends

1050
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 2: about it. We'd actually came up on the girls trip,

1051
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: and some people were offended by it, and someoneed and

1052
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 2: some people were very offended by it. I just think, ultimately,

1053
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 2: like the French push the envelope more, and maybe this

1054
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: wasn't the time to push the envelope, but like that's

1055
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: their culture.

1056
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: I just I guess my final question why why?

1057
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 2: Because they're French, I.

1058
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: Know, but that's the thing. It's like, did you need it? Like?

1059
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: Why? All right? I think overall, when you're on that

1060
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: big literally on a world stage, it's better to just

1061
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: keep it more neutral.

1062
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see what we do in four years,

1063
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: because it's coming to Los Angeles.

1064
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: I know they've been claiming to be redoing LAX for

1065
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: I don't even know how Tommy Cruz. Guess what, guys,

1066
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: lax looks no different.

1067
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: Little Tommy Cruise is going to do some kind of

1068
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: a stunt in the closing ceremonies for France. Yeah, for

1069
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: in France because it's kind of the there's always that

1070
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: traditional hand off to Los Ange, hand off to the

1071
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: next site of it.

1072
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: Is that why Tom Cruise is doing it. So Tom

1073
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: Cruise is going to catapult into America doing the Olympics.

1074
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: There's always a traditional handing over of the flame, handing

1075
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: over something where they will dim the flame in Paris

1076
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: and it will move to Los Angeles and I'll be honestly, what.

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Speaker 2: I thought this was was I thought that it was

1078
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 2: some kind of promo for Mission Impossible, for the Mission

1079
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 2: Impossible that was supposed to come out this summer, but

1080
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 2: that has ultimately been delayed. But I thought that Tom

1081
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: was just like, I'll just do this stuff.

1082
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: We're tying this into Hollywood. This is a welcome to America.

1083
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: Hollywood is next this.

1084
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: Well, that's cool. I love when sports and entertainment cross.

1085
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it'll be cool. They hopefully they will not

1086
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: miss the mark, especially since Tom Cruise is doing some

1087
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: kind of crazy stunt right Oh, I can't wait to

1088
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: see what he does. But overall, take away the opening

1089
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 1: ceremonies very successful Olympic Games. It's been fun to watch,

1090
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: fun to dive in, fun to just cheer for these

1091
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: people from all walks of life, from all corners of

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00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: our great country.

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00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 2: Now, of course, there have been the headlines about the

1094
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: hookups in the Olympic village. Yes, people were joking, like,

1095
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: are the cardboard beds they had made gonna like hold

1096
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: up for the hookups. I saw some of the athletes

1097
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: jumping on the beds to test them. I think it

1098
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: was the women's rugby team. The beds seemed very solid.

1099
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: The Paraguayan swimmer got sent home because she's I guess

1100
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: been a little too active. Yes, and the Paraguayan contingent

1101
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: they sent her home. It wasn't the Olympic committee Paraguay there.

1102
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: Their Olympic committee sent her home. She's quite pretty, very

1103
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: beautiful model.

1104
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 2: And oh my gosh, I'm reading the headline kicked out

1105
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 2: of Olympic village first inappropriate behavior. Yes, the twenty year

1106
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 2: old athlete who retired from the sport after she had

1107
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 2: failed to advance out of her heat was asked to

1108
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 2: leave for creating an inappropriate environment.

1109
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: Shouldn't these people be hooking up?

1110
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: These are the best I fully support it.

1111
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: These are the most beautiful athletic They are in peak performance,

1112
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 1: the peak time of their lives. Let them procreate.

1113
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay. A separate report, The Daily Mail said

1114
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 2: she was deemed a distraction for wearing skimpy clothing and

1115
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 2: socializing with other athletes. Well, first of all, some of

1116
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: the uniforms are skimpy. So what do you mean was

1117
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: she just in her uniform? Like I mean, if you

1118
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: walked around in your beach volleyball custome, if you're in

1119
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 2: your men's speedo, aren't you in skimpy clothing? And I

1120
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 2: agree with you. These are beautiful, incredibly fit people, probably

1121
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 2: a lot of them single, and this is their work.

1122
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 2: Where do you expect them to meet people? They could

1123
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 2: find marriages out of this.

1124
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: I would love to see statistics as people leave and

1125
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: hear some stories. Are there any Olympic babies coming out

1126
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: of the village.

1127
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if there ever have been before. But

1128
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 2: this is nothing new. There's always been hookups in the

1129
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 2: Olympic village.

1130
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: They started providing condoms in the village at one of

1131
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: the Olympics and these look, these people have got it.

1132
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: Relax.

1133
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,919
Speaker 1: These people are sent up and as soon as they're done,

1134
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 1: it's like time to party. One other baller guy who

1135
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to become famous because I

1136
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 1: think he's probably in hiding now. The Turkish pistol shooters,

1137
00:54:58,320 --> 00:54:59,959
Speaker 1: Oh yes, oh my god.

1138
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 2: The joke was is this just a hip man they

1139
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 2: pulled off the street. That was a joke.

1140
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: It's like low key. They were like, good job finishing second,

1141
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: getting the silver because they didn't want to bring too

1142
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: much attention to the guy. So when you're shooting pistols,

1143
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: you are usually you have all these contraptions and glasses

1144
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: and sights and optics and so you can shoot. He

1145
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: walked in nothing as you would call it, as the

1146
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: kids would call it, raw dog. He raw dogged the Olympics,

1147
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: just held his pistol one hand. No, he had glasses on,

1148
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: but they were just for his eyesight. They weren't special

1149
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 1: and just was a champ.

1150
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: I saw on Instagram that he's a cat and someone said,

1151
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: nobody better ever hurt this cat, or we're gonna have

1152
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 2: a Turkish John Wick on our hands. Seriously, these are

1153
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 2: the fun stories that we love. And speaking of hooking

1154
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: up with your fellow athletes, our last headline of this episode.

1155
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 2: So CBS does an article about how the new place

1156
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: to meet people like they're dubbing it a new trend

1157
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 2: is inn' run clubs, and Chris and I were just

1158
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: honestly kind of laughing about this. On the one hand,

1159
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 2: I'm glad this is happening. In the article they say that,

1160
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: you know it's a new trend why more single people

1161
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 2: are ditching online dating and turning to running clubs. Tired

1162
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 2: of spending their days swiping on dating apps, single people

1163
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: across the country are now hitting the pavement and joining

1164
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: run clubs as a fresh way to meet others. On

1165
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 2: the one hand, so glad this is happening. I think

1166
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: dating apps have had their moment, and they've proven that

1167
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: they are not very good. Like all the studies that

1168
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 2: I see are like, people are more miserable than ever

1169
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: with dating. Dating apps are not good. They encourage like

1170
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 2: It means that if one little thing goes wrong in

1171
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: a relationship, at the touch of a swipe, you can

1172
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 2: see what else is out there. People aren't forced to

1173
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 2: work at things. It's depressing. It's all about judging a

1174
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: book by its cover. I'm not a dating app fan.

1175
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: I think they've had their chance and have proven to

1176
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 2: not be very great. I know a few people who

1177
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 2: have met mostly on Hinge for some reason shout out

1178
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 2: to Hinge, but overall I know more disaster stories than dream.

1179
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: Stories or just hook up stories. Yeah.

1180
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 2: So I just think this is funny though, because they're

1181
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: acting like it's new, right, Like did.

1182
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: You just invent meeting people in person? Idiot reminds me,

1183
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: you know what it's giving. It's giving The girl who

1184
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: during the pandemic said she invented a drink where you

1185
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: put vodka and soda together with limes.

1186
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: She called it a video. She called it blackout water,

1187
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 2: and it was someone's like, you invented.

1188
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: A vodcast, So you these people have invented meeting.

1189
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 2: Just dating, but just literally dating.

1190
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: So but while I just I really do believe in this,

1191
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: and I really do believe this is a wonderful trend

1192
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: that we are getting out of our phones and getting

1193
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: back to real life and meeting people. And instead of

1194
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: meeting someone at a bar where you are drinking blackout

1195
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: water and it's dark and you're drinking, and I love

1196
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: the positive daytime and meeting where you're seeing people being athletic,

1197
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: being sober being. I love that and it's a very

1198
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: safe space because and I was down in downtown Austin

1199
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: at a meeting one night and I happen to be

1200
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: at this place called the me Night Cat, and apparently

1201
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: that's where they meet to go on this running club.

1202
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 2: They meet at a bar.

1203
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: I love that because what they do is they run,

1204
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: then they end up back at the bar on the

1205
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: a beer. So it's kind of both. It's kind of

1206
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: cocktail hour and there's different levels of they Because the

1207
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: lake is right there, Ladybird Lake that goes kind of

1208
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,919
Speaker 1: through downtown Austin. You can run and there's different there's

1209
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: different mileages, so you can just run for a mile,

1210
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: you can run for the three mile. There's like a

1211
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: six mile loop for the more serious. And this is

1212
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: kind of this kind of goes along with all the

1213
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: walks and all these things. But there were hundreds of

1214
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: people at this run, and I was sitting there watching it.

1215
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: I quit caring about why I was there and started

1216
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: watching this, fascinated at these really attractive young men and

1217
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: women getting off work and coming to run together and

1218
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: all chatting and talking. And they went and ran, and

1219
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: they all came back and settled in and had a

1220
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: cold beer, and I'm like, what a wonderful creator.

1221
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, no, completely, look there, I'm on board. An

1222
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: episode of Sex and the City comes to mind. Keep

1223
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 2: in mind Sex and the City was in the early

1224
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 2: two thousands. There's literally an episode where Miranda meets a

1225
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 2: guy through her run club. Like that. This isn't new,

1226
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: it's not new, But again you agree, I'm glad it's happening.

1227
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: It's really trending, which I'm happy about.

1228
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: It's kind of like how podcasts reinvented radios. I mean,

1229
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 2: I saw a tweet not too long ago where someone

1230
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 2: said I wish there was a live podcast where I

1231
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 2: could get the news really quickly. And someone replied and said,

1232
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 2: that is the radio. It already exists.

1233
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: It's called local news.

1234
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: But everything old becomes new again, And I agree, I'm glad.

1235
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 2: I think we are in a moment like between us

1236
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 2: kind of like getting to this time now where we're

1237
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 2: seeing how unhealthy it's been for people to grow up

1238
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: with social media and for little kids to have screens

1239
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 2: in their hands. You know, people are craving community, they're

1240
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 2: craving things that we all loved years ago. Original movie

1241
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 2: ideas going to do things together in person, not being

1242
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 2: on a screen all the time. And absolutely it is

1243
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: better to meet someone in this way. I mean, if

1244
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 2: you can find love on a dating app, find love

1245
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 2: however you can. Everybody has a different story. But do

1246
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: I think it's more successful, more statistically likely for you

1247
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: to find a good relationship through a communal activity. Absolutely

1248
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 2: I do. And we've lost a lot of those communities,

1249
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: like people have their online groups now, but I think

1250
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 2: about my grandparents. They had such a community of people

1251
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 2: through church, you know, through church, through like hanging out

1252
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 2: with their friends were through church or like YMCAs used

1253
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: to be a great place for people to go and meet.

1254
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: I find especially because we know so many college age

1255
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 2: kids through the kids. Like they have asked us before,

1256
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 2: like how do you make friends after college? And the

1257
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 2: advice I always give them is find an in person

1258
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 2: activity and go do it consistently and wherever you move

1259
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 2: to for your job, like you're going to make friends

1260
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 2: through work, but also join a local run club, join

1261
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,919
Speaker 2: something where and go to it consistently, because you might

1262
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: not make friends on the first time, but when you

1263
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,959
Speaker 2: start to become regular, that's how you meet people.

1264
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: The toughest thing in meeting anybody is the icebreaker. What

1265
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: is the commonality? What gets the conversation started. If you're

1266
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: at a run club and you're just jogging, oh hey,

1267
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: well you've been here, you already have a shared injus

1268
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: you already have You already have the conversation starter, and

1269
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: then if it's interesting, you can move on from that.

1270
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: If you're in a bowling league, softball, community, theater, whatever

1271
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: it is, there's ways to turn your passion and your

1272
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: interests into a way to meet people. If you are lonely,

1273
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: if you are looking to meet somebody or whatever. It

1274
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: is a great way to when you move and to

1275
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: make friends. It didn't have to be a lover, right,

1276
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 1: You can make friends that way. If you're a guy

1277
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: and you just moved to Austin and you want to

1278
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: meet other dudes, well go meet other dudes that do

1279
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: what you do. There's paddle boarding, there's there's all.

1280
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 2: These things I do, like a men's you know, baseball

1281
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 2: team or something like that.

1282
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: Get involved. You know.

1283
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: The toughest thing they today you are.

1284
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: But the toughest thing is the icebreaker. And that is

1285
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: such a huge part of it. And that alleviates that,

1286
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: and that's one thing that apps our phones cannot overcome.

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Speaker 2: And I think don't be discouraged if on the first

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Speaker 2: time you don't make a friend, or if, like you know,

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Speaker 2: if some activity you try doesn't work out. I think

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Speaker 2: when I first moved to la I went to like

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Speaker 2: Missoo alumni events, and I just didn't really connect with

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Speaker 2: anybody at any of those. I don't probably honestly because

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Speaker 2: I think what they always did was meet up to

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Speaker 2: watch football games. And I was like, we have the

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Speaker 2: shared experience that we went to Miszoo, but we don't

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Speaker 2: have the shared experience that I want to be here

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Speaker 2: watching this football game. So that didn't work out for me.

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Speaker 2: But you know, like I went to the same yoga

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Speaker 2: classes over and over again, and I kind of like

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Speaker 2: found friends that way. Definitely met people through work, but

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Speaker 2: I didn't get along with great with everybody at work.

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Speaker 2: So right all, you also have to know that, like,

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Speaker 2: not every relationship you pursue is going to be successful.

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Speaker 2: Keep trying anyway.

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Speaker 1: You got to put yourself out there. As Lauren said,

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Speaker 1: not only do you have to go more than once

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Speaker 1: showing up once just standing in the corner and no

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Speaker 1: one talked to me. You also have to put yourself

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Speaker 1: out there, you know, walk around the club and like

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Speaker 1: again you have the ice breaker, just bea like, hey,

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Speaker 1: it's my first time anything I need to know on

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Speaker 1: this run? How many times have you been here? Like boom,

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Speaker 1: you're in a conversation. It's very easy because everybody's kind

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Speaker 1: of disarmed because they're there for the same run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. There's a great group in Austin if you're here

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Speaker 2: for women called No Girl Walks Alone. You and I

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Speaker 2: went and kind of surprised them at an event last year.

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Speaker 2: They meet every Wednesday at six thirty and it's just

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Speaker 2: a walking club and they go and walk and like

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Speaker 2: chat and Hot Girl walks. Yeah, started out as a

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Speaker 2: trend called Hot Girl Walks. It's now called No Girl

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Speaker 2: Walks Alone. If you are here and want to check

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Speaker 2: it out, shout out to them. But yeah, I uh,

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Speaker 2: what things should what old things should become new again?

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Speaker 2: Anything come to mind to you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we've reinvented local news in.

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Speaker 2: Radio, walking, running people and media people as humans coming

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Speaker 2: together in a human way.

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Speaker 1: And I think we also covered movies need to come back,

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Speaker 1: like so school.

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Speaker 2: Movies, everything old It's time for you to become new again.

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Speaker 2: We are ready to come together as a country and

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Speaker 2: be unified and hang out together in person and be

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Speaker 2: proud to be from America and go see a great

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Speaker 2: movie and watch sports and I love it all.

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Speaker 1: Oh what a great way to end on that.

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Speaker 2: What an incredibly all encompassing way to I'm listen. So

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Speaker 2: let's go.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening, and we will do it

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Speaker 1: again next time because we have a lot more to

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Speaker 1: talk about. Thanks for listening. Follow us on Instagram at

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