WEBVTT - Part Two: Julius Streicher: The Other Hitler 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:06.120 Jake, are you a you a morning person? Hew? Do 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:08.719 you handle waking up starting the day good? 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:11.680 I really, I really think it's like real important to 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:14.000 get up early, But I hate it all the time. 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:15.800 You know, it's a real bottle for me, To be 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:16.200 honest with. 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:19.959 You, I'm exactly the opposite. I hate getting up, Like 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:22.279 twelve forty five is kind of a normal time for 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.040 me to wake up, Like, oh oh, I love that shit. 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:26.520 Then I just get to stay. 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:28.360 I'm depressed if I get up late. 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:31.160 I don't know why. Well, I am always depressed, so 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:33.159 that might be something to that. 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:38.199 I'm opening it this long times people like ask me 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:40.159 something to ask Robert. I'm like, he will not be 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:42.600 awake for at least four hours. I don't know. You 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.400 for me, like you will not be you would late? 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:48.120 Right? Uh? Huh? I did. I woke up at eight 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.879 am this morning actually recording, and then I was like, 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:54.240 why would I do this? Horrible? And then I went 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.959 to sleep until right before this recording started and woke 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:57.760 up feeling like. 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:01.320 Shit, that sounds like just your life voices. 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:05.800 Yeah it sure was. Uh, Sophie, why did you make 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:08.000 me get up this early? Huh uh? 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.000 Jake, doesn't live in our time zone, and it seems 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.319 fokay okay to make somebody record a podcast in the 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:16.000 middle of the night. 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:20.759 You know, we're talking about conspiracy theorists today. It seems 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:22.960 like kind of a conspiracy to suggest that the time 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:26.200 might be different just because you're in another country. Sophie, 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:27.199 you're son. 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:32.520 You should stick through, like you guys should follow real 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:33.880 time British time. 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.000 But yeah, isn't it? Isn't it Greenwich meantime? Is that 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:38.080 what you guys use? Right? 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.560 We just call it real time, just real time, just 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:44.000 the actual the time, as opposed to fight American time. 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:47.240 Yeah. Oh, our time zones are fucking nonsense. You know. 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:51.360 It's like I don't know using inches? But wait, do 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.080 you guys use inches? Are you? I always forget how 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:54.480 it works? 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.520 Do you know what we use everything? It's weird. Use 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.360 all of them, right, depending on what you're talking about. 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.000 Yeah, Like, like people give America shit because we like 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:04.760 picked the one thing that no one else basically uses. 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.240 But you guys picked like both of them, which is 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:08.760 also kind of nonsense. 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:12.600 Yeah, I love it, love it. Were a stupid place, 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:16.280 really everyone is. This is behind the bastards A podcast 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:18.600 about the stupid place that is the world and the 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:24.280 terrible people who make it worse. I guess Jake ready 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:29.240 to get back to talking about Julius Striker. Yeah, yeah, 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.200 So again as we left off, he is he's kind 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.680 of one of the guys alongside Hitler that a lot 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:37.760 of people in the German writer like, maybe this guy's 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.359 are Messiah, you know, maybe he's the dude who's gonna 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:43.560 bring us back to greatness and then convince us to 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:48.160 invade Russia in an inopportune time and get several million 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:49.280 of our young men killed again. 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:52.280 Whatever. That's what That's what people are saying about Striker 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.239 and about Hitler, and Striker is part of this kind 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:59.079 of like anti Semitic, you know, u in or Ober 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:03.280 organ whereas Hitler's, you know, part of the German Workers Party, 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.120 which is in the process of merging with the German 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.720 Socialist Party to form the National Socialist German Workers Party 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:16.359 aka de Nazis so win, Striker joins this organization run 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.720 by his buddy Dikele. He takes the newspaper that he 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.480 had started using the funding from the German Socialist Party 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:25.519 and he brings it with him because he's the guy 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:29.079 who owns it. He changes its name to Deutscher Volkesville, 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.880 which I think just means German people's will. And he 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.840 kind of ups the violence in his rhetoric, particularly the 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.320 anti Semitic violence by a couple of Jats. When he 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.600 does this, not only does he start devoting more time 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:45.080 to laying out conspiracy theories, but he starts accusing Jewish 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:50.000 citizens in Germany, often by name of specific criminal acts, 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:52.200 generally in Nuremberg. So he's not just doing the sort 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:55.160 of general it's the Jews that causes to lose World 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.640 War One, YadA, YadA. He's saying like there is a 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.200 specific Jewish person or a specific group of ju Wish 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.880 people who carry it out the specific crime in Nuremberg. 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:03.160 Right. 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.880 Often these crimes are complete Generally these crimes are completely 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.760 made up. He's basically always making up like who was 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.120 the culprit behind them. A lot of it is like 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:16.760 accusing rabbis of ritually murdering Christian children and stuff. It 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:20.719 doesn't matter that like kids aren't going missing, or sometimes 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:22.400 like a kid will die just the way. You know, 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.880 it's fucking nineteen twenty one. You know, kids trip and 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.960 fall and cut their arms and get infections and shit 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:32.679 exactly right, Like, yeah, so anytimes something like that happens, 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:34.359 find a way to blame it on the Jews, you know, 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:39.039 put this shit out. Now it's not legal to just 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:42.599 like accuse random people of child abduction and murder, right, Like, 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:44.600 you can get in trouble for that even back then. 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.320 And he actually he goes so far in this stuff. 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:52.200 The Bavarian courts are pretty right wing, they're not like 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.440 naturally inclined to prosecute a guy like Striker, but he 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:59.520 goes so far in like accusing random Jewish people of 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:03.640 crimes that he gets charged and convicted of slander. Getting 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:07.719 convicted of slander as a right wing politico in nineteen 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:13.680 twenty one Bavaria pretty hard, but Julius does it. Yeah. 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.880 This tiny amount of pressure from the government, though, winds 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:19.040 up really helping him, like the fact that he's been 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:22.360 convicted and charged, because now he's able to play the victim, right. 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.880 Not only is he he's like, I'm being prosecuted, persecuted, 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.640 you're trying to stop me from talking to you, and 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.400 so it brings this helps to bring him more followers, 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.440 bring more subscribers to his newsletter bring more members to 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.320 the organization that Dickle founded, that he's kind of the 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.960 figure four, and Striker gets more famous. On April fourth, 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:47.520 nineteen twenty two, several thousand Nurembergers, Nurembergians, whatever, show up 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.880 to Burgers is good. Several thousand burger Now I'm hungry. 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.480 Several thousand Burgers show up to listen to Striker give 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.120 a speech in which he explains that in August of 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.800 nineteen fourteen he had gone to war believing himself a 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:02.760 soldier of Germany, only to find out that he was 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.320 a pawn in this grand Jewish game for global control 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.360 and also the French you're involved. And a huge amount 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:12.400 of his rhetoric is focused upon kind of taking advantage 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.279 of and stoking the anxieties of young German men in 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:18.240 this time who they've just lost a war. Like young 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:21.960 men don't like losing wars, and they're kind of emasculated 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.960 right by defeat and this sense of inferiority that it brings. 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:28.279 And that's a big part of what Striker is going 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:29.720 to take advantage of. I'm going to read you a 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.240 quote that he gave in this speech. Here stand in 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.839 front of a hotel and see who takes the arms 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:38.000 of the German girl, not the German worker. We know 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:41.840 they sometimes give themselves to the Orientals. When a Negro 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:45.039 or a black soldier on the Rhine misuses a German girl, 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.320 she is lost to the race, and he is when 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:51.400 he's bringing up like black soldiers going out with German girls. 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.080 What he's talking about is that the Rhine, which is 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:55.960 kind of or the Ruer actually I think it is, 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.080 which is the industrial It's all along the Rhine, though, 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.760 which is the industrial heartland of Germany. It's where they've 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.440 done a lot of their arms production for World War One. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:07.479 That's occupied under the Treaty of Versailles by French troops 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.840 for a significant chunk of the Weimar period, and the 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:18.600 French often send over like colonial soldiers, including like African soldiers. 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:23.320 Exactly exactly everywhere you have soldiers stationed in a foreign country, 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.520 this shit will happen. Some number of them will do 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:30.000 bad things. And whenever something like that happens with these 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:34.440 French occupation troops, it is this huge deal on the right, 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.920 you know, because there's this race panic issued towards it too. 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.280 You know, they're angry just period at the fact that 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.960 they lost the war. So that's what Striker is kind 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.640 of He's not only sort of like, you know, look, 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.360 they've got these like black soldiers on our soil, but 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:53.600 more broadly speaking, he's like, German women are being taken 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:57.280 from German men because we've been emasculated by defeat, and 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.960 this is part of a Jewish plot to like water 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.440 down our blood. Right, that's the thing that Striker's doing. Yeah, 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:08.240 you know, well, yes, of course, yeah, that do be 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:12.680 the Nazis. So his time with the German Working Group 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:15.120 was short. One of his rallies was broken up by 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.640 a giant street fight with Communists, which Dickle's organization apparently 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:22.640 considered his fault. He left in the subsequent disagreement, unable 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.760 as ever to handle anyone criticizing him, and this leaves 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.720 Julius in a bit of a pickle. He needs an organization, right, 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.600 He's not anything without sort of like he's got like 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.280 a degree of celebrity, but like he wants to be 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:37.480 a part of a party, right. He wants to be 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.600 working towards taking power, and his paper at this point 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.080 is still too small to be profitable on its own 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.200 without kind of the guaranteed regular sales that came with 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:50.280 being the paper of a political organization. And he's so 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:52.400 we sort of like fishing around who's going to take me? 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.920 Who wants Julius, you know, who's who's willing to have 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:58.200 me be on their side? And the only party in 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:02.120 Germany who's kind of rat enough to take someone like him, 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:05.800 who's got the reputation he has is the new Nazi Party. 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.160 Now they're still in the process of doing this merger 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.800 at the time, and the guys who had been sort 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.320 of running the Democratic Socialist Party and had worked with 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:18.079 Striker earlier don't want him in the Nazi Party and 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:20.280 the dudes who had sort of been fighting with Hitler 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:24.440 within the German Workers Party also don't necessarily want Striker. 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.920 And so when he starts reaching out to Hitler because 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.120 like Hitler's the guy he likes, basically sends a letter 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:32.960 to being like, hey, I think I'd be willing to 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.720 like work with you. Guys, they send Hitler a letter 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.760 filled with like dirt on Julius, trying to basically like 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.040 convince Hitler not to work with him, be like, ah, 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.480 here's all this shit about like Julius Striker all this 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:47.040 bad stuff you know about like why this guy's not trustworthy. 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:52.319 But then this is really interesting. Striker doesn't get along 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.800 with most people who are in charge of him, and 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.800 Hitler not a great guy at sharing the stage, but 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:01.520 for whatever reason, the two of them kind of get along. 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.360 And when Hitler gets this letter filled with dirt on Striker, 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.640 he's like, I think this is bullshit. I think I 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:08.679 like this guy and I want to work with him. 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:12.680 And we don't really know why. But in addition to 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:18.040 Hitler kind of liking Striker and wanting to work with him, Striker, 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.640 this guy who cannot take direction, who doesn't like to 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:23.840 listen to people, who has a conflict with everyone who 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:27.040 puts themselves above him, kind of decides at this moment, 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.600 you know what, I'm willing to, like take a back 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:34.520 seat and back Hitler as the fewer Like maybe I 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.640 could do that, but I'm willing to like back him. 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.120 I'm willing to give him, you know, my full faith 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:42.640 and support. We don't fully know why he makes this call, 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.720 but in May of nineteen twenty two, he publishes an 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.960 article on his newspaper called the Longing of a Strong Hand, 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.920 echoing Subotandorf's work. He begged German Anti Simites to a 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.240 knite behind a single leader who could give direction to 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.480 the quarrel some right wing and he kind of ends 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:59.720 with him like being like, you know, I think Hitler's 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:04.040 problem probably a guy to watch for this one possibility 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.480 here as that striker. At this point, he's been in 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.480 politics a while. He's had a couple of big failures. 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:13.200 You know, he's tried to basically build two parties around 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.840 him and failed two times. So he may have just 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:18.480 like he's not a humble guy, but he may have 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:22.320 actually just kind of recognized his limitations and been like, clearly, 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:24.880 I can't do this and Hitler can, so I'm going 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:28.720 to support the guy who's doing it. You know. The 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.920 other possibility, which I think, you know, both of these 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.360 things are possible, is that he kind of just falls 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:37.000 in love with Hitler, Like this seems to be genuine 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:40.520 from him, like that he is like genuinely loyal and 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:45.679 genuinely believes in Hitler as the fucking right wing messiah 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:49.079 type dude. We don't actually know when the two first met, 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.560 probably at some point in nineteen twenty two years later, 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.680 when he's on trial at Nuremberg. Julius is going to 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:59.719 like give his sort of like explanation of how they too, 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.440 how they met, And this is a lie. Obviously, we 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.560 are talking about like a Nazi leader on trial for 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.040 war crimes against humanity. He's not giving you the truth 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.040 of whatever their meeting was. But I still think it's interesting. 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.360 What he's later going to claim is like how the 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.920 two of them like meet. So he says, you know, 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.040 he shows up at the speech that Hitler's giving. He's 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.000 kind of curious about this guy that's sort of been 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:23.760 billed as, you know, maybe his rival, and he's immediately 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.679 taken in by Hitler's supernatural charisma. He's overwhelmed by the 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.360 chanting of the crowd, and he he like has almost 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.120 this vision of Hitler as a messenger from heaven. That's 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.200 how he described it, quote clothed with the beauty of 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:40.840 inspired language. And Stryker claims that he's so overwhelmed with 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.080 the raw godly force of Hitler's charisma that he like 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.320 walks up to him right after the speech and swears fealty. 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:51.360 Quote never before had I heard that song sung so imploringly, 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.480 so filled with faith and hope, and never before had 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.240 the singing of Deutsch lenduber ales moved me as deeply 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:57.959 as it did in that mass meeting where I first 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.560 saw Adolf Hitler and heard him speak. I felt it 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.520 in this moment destiny calls to me a second time. 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:06.320 I hurried through the jubilant masses to the podium, stood 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.200 before him and said, I am Julius Striker. At this moment, 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.200 I know I can only be a follower, but you 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.760 are a leader. I give you the popular movement which 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:16.880 I have built in Franconia, which is the German state 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:17.760 that Nuremberg's in. 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.760 So I was like, he was giving Hitler the DICKU 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:21.280 you know what I'm saying. 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.480 Yeah, he's given. He's definitely like boot licking here. Pretty, 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:26.520 He's like deep throating that boot. He's got it up 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:26.800 to the he. 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:33.679 I'd just been trying to work you out. 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:37.640 Yeah, proud of you my head, Yeah, just churning along 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:42.120 like a cement mixer, just like white. Yeah. Now this 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:44.319 is what I just related to you. Again. I think 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:46.240 it's worth having because this is like the claim that 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.959 he makes, it's absolutely a lie. And Randall bite Work, 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:53.439 who is Striker's biographer, he kind of provides what I 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.240 think is a much more realistic theory as to how 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:59.199 these two guys get together, which is basically that like Striker, 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.200 he he's a man without a party, but he's got 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:04.679 a shitload of followers who just like him because they 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.200 like listening to him. He's got this paper and he 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.520 sits down with Hitler in the Nazis and they have 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.560 this like negotiation, like this kind of hard nosed negotiation 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.559 in which you know, he's like, Hey, I need money 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.480 from you guys to help me deal with the debts 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.320 that I've accumulated. You know, in exchange, I'll bring you 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.360 these followers I'll like back Hitler. It is very much 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.920 a rational political decision. While there's definitely hit like Striker 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.000 will be loyal to Hitler, like there is a degree 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.320 of legitimate affection between the two men, this is also 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.440 just a very practical call for him. It's a business 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:43.440 decision as well as a political one. So yeah, interesting stuff. Julius, 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:45.840 for his part, seems to be one of the few 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:50.760 men Hitler respected. It's notable. You'll every time you read 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:54.240 anything about the two, you will see it noted that 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.640 Striker was one of a very small number of Nazis 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:01.200 who are allowed to use the pronoun do to refer 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:01.760 to Hitler. 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:02.080 Do you. 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:06.400 I'm not a German speaker, I barely speak English, but 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.440 but do is like an intimate pronoun, like you only 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:13.320 use it with somebody that you're like close with, right right, 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:16.360 Like you're your actual friend, like your actual friends, actual 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:20.480 like almost people you. Yeah. And obviously this is I 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.320 think on Hitler's part, letting Striker do this is more 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:27.160 of a it's a it's a it's a kind of 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.520 a political move, but it's also based on his respect 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:34.200 for the man's loyalty because Hitler does not personally like Striker. 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:37.080 The two are not friends, they don't hang out together. 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.680 Hitler will actually kind of avoid him when he's in 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:41.840 power and like big meetings and stuff like we'll try 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:45.560 not say. But Hitler will also defend him against other 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.720 Nazis who hate him because he has so much respect 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.920 for Striker's skill as a propagandist, right, which is an 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:53.720 interesting sort of relationship for them to have. 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.480 It just sounds like that guy whay, he's like, oh fuck, 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:58.160 it's him again, you. 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.320 Know it's him again, but also a man, and that 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:01.800 he's fucking good at what he does. 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:03.600 He's good. Yeah, we need him around, but I don't 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:04.400 want him around me. 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.360 Yeah, I don't want to like have dinner with him, 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:08.600 but like will, I will back him to the hilt 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:13.880 as long as he stays away. So Striker never quarreled 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.240 with Hitler, but he did get into regular conflict with 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.960 other Nazis, and he has a particular early issue with 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.560 the leader of the Nuremberg essay, you know, the storm 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.720 the Nazi street fighting organization. They're proud boys, so to speak, 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:29.840 because he winds up taking control of the city's Nazi Party. Like, 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.160 this struggle kind of goes on and he winds up 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.920 winning it. And in nineteen twenty three, Julius is sort 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:38.920 of running the Nazi Party branch in Nuremberg, and as 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.680 a result of like taking over, he decides to launch 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.880 a new newspaper. And this is a publication that he's 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.800 going to use for the specific goal of not just 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.800 bringing people to the Nazi Party, but to inspire regular 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:54.520 Germans to embrace his war on Judaism. He names it 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:59.760 dear Sturmer. Now that means like the Stormer, right, like 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.760 in terms of like a storm trooper, right like that's 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.760 how that term is used. He's very much calling up 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.439 sort of people's memories of World War One. He's very 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:10.680 much sort of making you a point of the fact 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.880 that that's what he did in the war. He will 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.159 later claim that his inspiration was that he wanted to 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.400 use this paper to storm the red fortress of left 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:23.760 wing politics in Germany, and initially in dere Stormer articles 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:27.200 are kind of split between three major topics. He's one 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:30.199 of the major topics is him just going on rants 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.840 against people who made fun of him. The other is 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:36.679 attacking the Jews, and the last is going after the 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:40.600 mayor of Nuremberg, Herman Lupa. Like half of his early 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:43.520 articles are just attacking the mayor. He fucking hates this guy. 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.840 He is not the guy that did him for Tolkien bad. 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.440 Yeah, he had a major role in that. That's a 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.840 big part I think where it starts and Lupa, to 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.960 his credit, he's not a left wing radical. I'm not 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:56.879 saying that's too script, but just to describe him, he's 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:59.240 not a left wing radical. He's kind of politically he's 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:03.800 like a brid between moderate centrist liberals and democratic socialists 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.120 who are sort of like the moderate leftists of their day, 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:09.200 you know, and obviously the kind of centrist Libs don't 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:11.520 get along with the Democratic Socialists, don't get along with 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.879 the communists. Lupa's not, you know, really in with the communists, 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:16.879 but he is a bridge between like the Centrists and 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:21.480 the Democratic Socialists, and he is profoundly an anti Nazi, 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.000 and he does the best that he knows to try 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:28.000 to go after Striker. Obviously it doesn't work, and you 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.760 feel for the guy. He gets persecuted under the Nazis. 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:34.200 He winds up dying as a real bummer. He makes 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:37.000 it through most of the war as like a persecuted 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.639 political enemy of the Nazis, and then dies in an 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:43.000 air raid in forty five, which is a fucking bummer, 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:48.520 but you know, he tried. Yeah, Striker spends most of 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:52.200 his first four issues attacking the mayor with publishing alongside, 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:56.360 you know, ancillary articles accusing local Jewish people or organizations 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:59.520 of crimes. And it was this latter brand of content, 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.480 you know, the these articles sort of making explicit allegations 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.600 against Jewish citizens. That's going to lead to Striker's first 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:07.880 period of time in jail. And I'm going to quote 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:11.760 from Calvin University's German Propaganda archive here and one of 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:13.800 these meetings held in nineteen twenty two in the town 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:17.720 of Schenengen in Franconia. Striker pointed out that sixteen newspapers 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.399 had recently reported on the disappearance of over one hundred 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:24.240 German children before the Jewish Passover season of nineteen nineteen. 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.400 Since none of the boys was ever located, Striker concluded 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.199 that they must have become victims of Jewish ritual murder. 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.040 He explained that his reasoning was based on teachings contained 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.320 in the Talmud, which allegedly instructed Jews to kill Christians, 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.719 especially children, and drink their blood during the Jewish Easter season. 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.280 Striker was sued on the ground of defaming the Jewish 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:45.240 religion and sentenced to fourteen days in prison. He appealed 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:47.000 and the sentence was reduced to a fine of two 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:52.760 thousand marks plus court costs. And first off, it's interesting, 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:55.200 you know, you and I before this call were kind 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:58.479 of talking about our episodes a week or so ago 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:02.560 on bTB about this kidnapping panic that's that's going everywhere 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.800 you see, the same thing is going on in Vymar Germany, 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.760 right this, You know, in America, the statistically here quoted 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.440 is like half a million children go missing every year 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:14.280 in the United States, which is a lie. That would 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:16.439 be one out of seven children born every year in 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:17.960 the United States get subducted. 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:19.040 Right. 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.000 What it is is that, Yeah, there's like four or 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:22.200 five hundred thousand every year. 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:24.119 Report. 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:28.120 Well, it's not it's reports of kids going missing, which 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:32.399