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Speaker 3: Oh history will repeat in one NFL city. That's coming

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Speaker 3: right up. Good morning, everybody. This is Fox Sports Sunday

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Speaker 3: He is my guy, Bucky Brooks. What happened with the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl? Tell me, Bucky Brooks, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well? What's going on? Andy? It was great? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was you're talking about what went on? I mean

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Speaker 2: super Bowl was great.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think you saw a case of two

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Speaker 4: really good teams where you saw the better team, the

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Speaker 4: more talented team, ended up winning the game.

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Speaker 3: Why are people telling me all day long, all week

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Speaker 3: long that the Super Bowl was boring? First of all,

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Speaker 3: football is not boring. You know, it was a bit

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Speaker 3: of a you know, a blowout, but still start a

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Speaker 3: boring situation. It's not boring. It's football. How good football?

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Speaker 3: You can't use those words together football boring, it doesn't

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Speaker 3: work out, It's stupid.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think maybe there was some fatigue right

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Speaker 2: Kansas City. Kansa City has been there five out the

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Speaker 2: last six years.

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Speaker 4: So every story that you would get on media Night

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Speaker 4: is the same the fel there for Eagles were just

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Speaker 4: there two years ago, so a lot of the stories

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Speaker 4: carry over. You didn't have the buzz and the excitement

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Speaker 4: of a new team like Detroit. If Detroit is there

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Speaker 4: is a this team, the loveable Losers are finally in

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Speaker 4: the super Bowl. We just didn't have that storyline, which

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Speaker 4: is maybe why some people felt like it was a

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Speaker 4: boring week.

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Speaker 3: You know, we do have to welcome our new executive producer,

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Speaker 3: Patrick Sweeka. Do you know that? Patrick's yes, right now?

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Speaker 1: What's up, guys?

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Speaker 3: How you doing? I don't know why everybody is bailed

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Speaker 3: out from us, but we love having you here.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm an early morning guy. What can I say?

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Speaker 3: Let's go Patrick on PS. I hope you're here for

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Speaker 3: the long haul. I really do.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it will, Maybe it will. Let's let's let's get goes,

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Speaker 5: Let's have some fun.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it right now. Okay, now, The story swirling

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Speaker 3: around the Super Bowl was Joe Burrow of the Cincinnti Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Why do I bring that up? Because Joe Burrow, at

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Speaker 3: least in my mind and to some others, is that

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Speaker 3: he's putting a lot of pressure on the Cincinni Bengals

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Speaker 3: ownership want to make the team better. He wants to

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Speaker 3: to sign t Higgins, Jamar Chase, and Trey Hendrickson. I

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Speaker 3: get it, okay, first off, and tell me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 3: I got a problem with someone telling someone else how

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Speaker 3: to spend their money. I don't care what business it's in.

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Speaker 3: I just don't think he should go public that way.

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Speaker 3: I guess he's trying to do it so the media

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Speaker 3: would pick up on it and the fans will pick

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Speaker 3: a corner. He can't do that. Don't do that to

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Speaker 3: Mike Brown and the Cincinnti Bengals. But he ain't gonna listen. Really,

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Speaker 3: I think it's a wrong move. I think it's a

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Speaker 3: I just think it's wrong.

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Speaker 2: See and I disagree.

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Speaker 4: I think he's right because Joe Burrow is the one

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Speaker 4: And he is looking at a team in the Philadelphia

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Speaker 4: So when the Bengals say, oh, we don't know how

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Speaker 4: We can pay these people if we want to. There's

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Speaker 4: Why are we resistant to paying players? And I'll tell

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Speaker 4: they don't have outside business ventures. That created money. Their

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Speaker 4: money comes from the football team, and to pay the salaries,

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Speaker 4: like the big contracts, to guarantees, you have to have

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Speaker 3: But they have the money and they could sign those

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Speaker 3: They needs gonna have to shell out this year for

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Speaker 3: But look, they're not the only team that has football

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Speaker 3: two right, those are two teams that just have the

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Speaker 3: I guess inherently with the Cincinnati Bengals, where they just

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Speaker 3: don't do that. But I'm going to go one step further,

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Speaker 3: and if you think I'm crazy, tell me more than that.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they shoul even sign these guys because

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Speaker 3: a great defensive line. All right, they had a great quarterback.

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Speaker 3: they did. But it was the defensive line that got

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, like, I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: They also go to those guys early in their careers

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Speaker 4: give them a big contract, but it pales in comparison

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Speaker 4: we talked about Jamar Chase. They could have paid him

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Speaker 2: Have playmakers to win in this game.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's gonna be really interesting. And the sad

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Speaker 3: thing is if you're a Cincinnati Bengals fan, you know

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean yeah, like they do have press. They

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Speaker 4: What do you prioritize? Because if you prioritize the offense,

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's go back to square one when I said

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Speaker 3: I really wasn't happy that Joe Burrow is kind of

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Speaker 3: He could easily do that. And he did say basically

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Speaker 3: that he may, you know, maybe change his contract and

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Speaker 3: maybe release the contract, and is really to alter his deal.

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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, he was on the part

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to ask if you're going to restructure

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Speaker 2: Restructuring a deal? Can you explain it to us, like

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Speaker 2: Okay. Then you can also just take less money. And

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Speaker 3: Okay. So now, so now this situation is out there

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well that contract is done now, so like his

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Speaker 2: This is the situation where we are now.

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Speaker 4: He outlined those three options that the Bengals have where

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Speaker 2: You have to pay market value for top players.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean it sounds pretty easy.

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Speaker 4: He said, If we signed these two wide receivers, we'll

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Speaker 2: It's not hard. Like the Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: They got to spend the money.

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Speaker 3: I would say this, you know, if they don't spend

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati has that reputation of like, well, you know, maybe

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's something to that, like they won't

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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna say this, and I know that's just

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Speaker 3: It's amazing, and I'm sure the word is around the

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Speaker 2: But I don't know if it's that easy.

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Speaker 4: The Bengles do operate on the shoe stream budget when

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Speaker 2: A long time.

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Speaker 4: You know, at some point though in this business, you

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Speaker 3: No doubt about that. Do you remember the Carson Palmer situation,

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Speaker 2: It's hard to find those guys.

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Speaker 4: And so if you got a special guy, you're trying

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Speaker 4: I think he has enough skins on the wall to

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Speaker 2: Maybe we can.

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe because I live in the region, maybe

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Speaker 3: That's what he's got right now. But he was never

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Speaker 3: he coached the Jets prior and then he came to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Was a vice versa I forget, but not really a

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Speaker 3: head coach. David Schuler, that was death. He was recorded.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what Keaton that you know what his record

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Speaker 3: was in Cincinnati nineteen and fifty two, nineteen and fifty two,

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Speaker 3: I mean, and that was a I guess a good

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Speaker 3: old boy network situation was sure. Mike Brown was good

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Speaker 3: friends with David's father. Okay, mister Schult, Don Shult the man, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Sam Weisch was a coach in Indiana. He came here.

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Speaker 3: Forrest Greig was a legit. Forrest greg was legit, That's

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Speaker 3: basically it. And they won when Forrest was here, they won, okay,

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Speaker 3: and he had a winning record. He was thirty two

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Speaker 3: and twenty five. So I think there's a lot to

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Speaker 3: be said about having a coach who had some sort

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Speaker 3: of a record, a track record as a head coach

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Speaker 3: in the National Football League or at least maybe a coordinator.

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Speaker 3: Do you agree, Well.

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Speaker 4: The reason why they had all those inexperienced coach is

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Speaker 4: because they're cheaper. When you take a quarterback coach and

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Speaker 4: get him a head coach and responsibilities, you can pay

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Speaker 4: him probably sixty percent of what you have to pay

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Speaker 4: an experienced coach.

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Speaker 2: That's part of what they were able to do. The

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Speaker 2: other thing is they don't like to pay for guys

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Speaker 2: that aren't working for them.

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Speaker 4: So the reason David Shula and some of those guys

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Speaker 4: stayed for a long time is they stayed the lint

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Speaker 4: of their contract right because they don't want to have

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Speaker 4: to pay him, you know, his contract. Were also paying

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Speaker 4: a new coach that replaces him, So that's why. And

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Speaker 4: if you know that You're going to Cincinnati knowing a

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Speaker 4: they may be chief on some things, but I get

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Speaker 4: a fool. I get the opportunity to fully implement my

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Speaker 4: plan because they don't bail early on coaches.

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Speaker 2: So that's a positive.

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Speaker 4: It's just a matter of, you know, having the right

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Speaker 4: things in place to win. So it's not only the

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Speaker 4: right coach, it's the right players, it's the right environment.

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Speaker 4: All things have to be right for your team to

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Speaker 4: play at a high level.

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Speaker 3: You're exactly right, all right. He is Bucky Brooks. I'm

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Speaker 3: Andy Furman. Get us on X, get us on Twitter,

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Speaker 3: Patrick's got the phones today, will take some phone calls

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Speaker 3: if you want to get on board, if you got

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Speaker 3: the guts, if you got the guts to call really,

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Speaker 3: because it's a big stage here, and I know a

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Speaker 3: lot of people will cave under the pressure. Eight seven

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Speaker 3: Of course we got asked Bucky in this hour and

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Speaker 3: now our number two. We'll have the results and crown

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Speaker 3: you know what I watched last night? Take a guess.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know what you are.

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Speaker 3: I watched that hockey game between Canada and the US

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Speaker 3: of A. I did. I would flick a back and

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Speaker 3: forth little college basketball. I can't believe seat in Halley, Connecticut.

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Speaker 3: And then I saw a little bit of the three

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Speaker 3: point shooting contest for the NBA All Star Deal. And

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Speaker 3: then you know, my wife is Canadian, so she's got

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Speaker 3: like a rooting interest anyway. But we saw like three

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Speaker 3: fights in the first nine seconds, and I said, you

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Speaker 3: know what, this isn't too bad. I just felt watching

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Speaker 3: these hockey players, to me, it seemed like they were

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Speaker 3: giving a little more effort than I watched other athletes play.

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Speaker 3: Not in the Super Bowl, not in the NFL, but

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Speaker 3: like maybe the NBA. These guys are really really out

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Speaker 3: there playing and they really want them to win. Plus

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Speaker 3: when they played the national anthem, not the Canadian national anthem,

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Speaker 3: but the US national anthem, they were booed in Canada.

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to get political, but you know why.

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Speaker 3: They probably booing us. So they were booing that. But

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Speaker 3: I did watch the hockey game last night and usnabel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look at that. Nice.

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Speaker 3: Are you a hockey fan?

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Speaker 2: I like playoff hockey, so if that counts yes, All.

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Speaker 3: Right, okay, now we talk about this Hall of Famer

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Speaker 3: looking for work. Did you see this statement that the

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Speaker 3: Jets released on their breakup with Aaron Rodgers. I'm going

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Speaker 3: to quote it. Our intention. Our intention was to move

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Speaker 3: in a different direction to quarterback. You know, since I

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Speaker 3: guess they moved in a different direction. That was what

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Speaker 3: coused Aaron Rodgers. One of his two seasons in that

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Speaker 3: Jets uniform, he shredded his achille tending where the four

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Speaker 3: players in there was Jets debut of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: three season, and all the hopes, all the hopes rolled

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Speaker 3: off on a cart and it was at the end

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Speaker 3: of the chance to end that longest playoff drought in

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Speaker 3: the NFL. I was a little shot that the Jets cut.

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Speaker 4: Him an you, no, not at all. The experiment was

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Speaker 4: not great, It wasn't productive. It was a lot of headaches,

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Speaker 4: I would say, in terms of trying to run a

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Speaker 4: team when you have a player who doesn't really buy

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Speaker 4: into the culture. That's hard and I don't see it changing.

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Speaker 4: I didn't see it changing. So I understood why they

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Speaker 4: had to move on. And so Aaron Glenn comes in

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Speaker 4: with a new plan. Look, I plawed him for make

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Speaker 4: cutting bait right away because it was gonna work. It

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Speaker 4: wasn't it can't be Aaron Rodgers' program and the rest

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Speaker 4: of the team. So to me, it made a lot

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Speaker 4: of sense for them to go ahead and make the

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Speaker 4: move happen right away.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now before we get involved, like what happens Darren Rodne,

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Speaker 3: I mean, what do the Jets do? How do they rebuild?

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Speaker 3: They need a quarterback? And there are like five teams

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Speaker 3: out there, really and truly looking for a quarterback for

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Speaker 3: next year. I mean, the Jets are one of them,

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Speaker 3: but I think the Raiders is going to be one

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Speaker 3: of them. The Giants have to be a team looking

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Speaker 3: for a quarterback, the Browns right now their quarterbacks shredded,

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Speaker 3: and probably the Tennessee Titans. So all these guys, all

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Speaker 3: these five teams have a pick in the top seven

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Speaker 3: of the draft, but there's really only two quarterbacks out

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Speaker 3: there to be had. I think it's going to be

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Speaker 3: sh Duart, Sanders and cam Ward. So what could the

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Speaker 3: Jets possibly do at quarterback unless maybe a free agent

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Speaker 3: or trade for a backup.

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Speaker 4: I mean a few different things they can do. It

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Speaker 4: depends on how they view this quarterback class. Just because

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Speaker 4: we on the outside believe they may only be two

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Speaker 4: Sudor Sanders and cam Ward, they may have a different opinion.

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Speaker 4: And the reason why I say that is just remember

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Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn worked for a long time with Sean Payton.

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Speaker 4: Sean Payton took bow Knicks when no one there wasn't

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Speaker 4: a person.

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Speaker 2: That thought bow Knicks was first round caliber.

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Speaker 4: No one thought that he could be a franchise player,

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Speaker 4: and jokes on us because Sean Payton took Bothennick and

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Speaker 4: Botennicks played pretty well for the Broncos. So maybe Aaron

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Speaker 4: Glenn enters this not afraid of the uncertainty at the

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Speaker 4: position because he believes that they can identify and find one,

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Speaker 4: whether it's a veteran or a young guy to come

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Speaker 4: and do it. He probably is more focused on building

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Speaker 4: the rest of the team until they have an opportunity

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Speaker 4: to get a legitimate quarterback to take them to the

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Speaker 4: next level.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So let's stick with Amon Rodgers for a second.

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Speaker 3: Where could he possibly end up as a backup, perhaps

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Speaker 3: maybe like a band aid to crossover a bridge until

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Speaker 3: the team gets a younger, possibly futuristic quarterback. Well, maybe

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Speaker 3: he's out of work. Is it possible that he's not

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Speaker 3: going to play at all next year?

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Speaker 4: So I wrote about this on Fox Fox Digital. You

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Speaker 4: can see it up on the website.

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Speaker 3: Miss NFL dot com for you this week. Nuts.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm on both all the time.

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Speaker 4: So on Fox I talked about Aaron Rodgerson where he's at,

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Speaker 4: and I said, the three teams that would make sense Tennessee,

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Speaker 4: Indianapolis and the Las Vegas Raiders. Tennessee because they have

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Speaker 4: the number one overall pick. If they were able to

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Speaker 4: get Aaron Rodgers, that would allow them to rebuild the

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Speaker 4: team differently. They could get up to a carter, continue

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Speaker 4: to build up the rest of the squad. You have

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Speaker 4: a veteran in place to play with some of the

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Speaker 4: playmakers that they have already in Calvin Ridley and the others.

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Speaker 4: If you go to the Indianapolis coach, you have a

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Speaker 4: team with a playoff ready roster. You have a young

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Speaker 4: quarterback who's struggling in Anthony Richardson, but Shane Stykeen and Chris.

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Speaker 2: Ballert are in win now mode.

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Speaker 4: That allows them to maybe take on the risk of

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers. Because it's one and done for everybody. Everybody's

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Speaker 4: operating on a one year contract. There may not be

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Speaker 4: any other years if we don't win that year, So

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Speaker 4: that urgency, that pressure may be appealing to the front

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Speaker 4: office to go and get Aaron Rodgers, and this roster

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Speaker 4: might be appealed for Aaron Rodgers to get it done.

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Speaker 4: And then the Las Vegas Raiders Pete Carroll, Tom Brady.

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Speaker 4: Pete Carroll havn't competed against Aaron Rodgers during this time

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Speaker 4: at Cal certainly probably has a lot of respect for him.

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Speaker 4: Tom Brady knows quarterback play probably revers Aaron Rodgers in

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Speaker 4: terms of the length of his career, the success that

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Speaker 4: he's had. Maybe they can find a common ground. It

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Speaker 4: would be weird because his best friend DeVante Adams worked

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Speaker 4: his way out of Las Vegas, but it could be

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Speaker 4: a situation where they give him an opportunity to bring

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Speaker 4: back a look a historic franchise.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go here now, you got Tennessee with

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Speaker 3: the first pick. And if I'm not mistaken, Tennessee has

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Speaker 3: a new general manager that hired him from the Kansas

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Speaker 3: City Chiefs. I think his name is Borgonzi, Bargonzia, whatever

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Speaker 3: his name, okay, And he built the Chiefs through the draft,

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Speaker 3: that's what he basically did. So I think he wants

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Speaker 3: a long term kind of guy, and I can't see

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Speaker 3: that Rodgers is not going to be the long term guy.

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Speaker 3: And honestly, even if he was the long term guy,

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Speaker 3: the money is a fact, that the age is a factor.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna be the number one pick, They're going to

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Speaker 3: get cam Ward to shoot Door Sanders. So I don't

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Speaker 3: think there's any chance at all that Aaron just goes

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Speaker 3: to Tennessee. I'm gonna throw in Pittsburgh. I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh because they made the playoffs last year with

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Speaker 3: another veteran in Russell Wilson, Okay, and I don't think

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Speaker 3: they were all happy with him, and look justin Fields,

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Speaker 3: he's a free agent. I think there's a possibility. However, However,

653
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Speaker 3: I don't think Mike Tomlin is gonna stand for Aaron

654
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: Rodgers going on the pat McAfee show every week. I

655
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: just don't think Mike Tomlin's gonna want that. You know,

656
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: he's gonna turn the TV on and see Aaron Rodgers

657
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: ripping his teammates with Pat McAfee. That ain't happening. Mike

658
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: Thomas not gonna stand for that. So even if there

659
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: was a possibility, I think that Mike Tomas gonna say,

660
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: uh uh, I don't want him. Here are you with

661
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: me on that?

662
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: Well?

663
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's much better than the quarterback

664
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 4: play that they had last year, Like so if you're

665
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 4: not upgrading position, then why you just pushing it along?

666
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: And the headache that comes with him, particularly.

667
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 4: With all the I won't say outland but outlandish media

668
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,239
Speaker 4: takes and that stuff just a lot to deal with.

669
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Speaker 4: So I'd just be very careful if I'm Mike Tomlin

670
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 4: and the Pittsburgh still is kind of getting into that

671
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers lane those other spots that were mentioned. It's

672
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 4: more a desperation why it potentially could work there. It's

673
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 4: not out of hey man, let's make this work. He's

674
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 4: still playing at the top of his game. I don't

675
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 4: think you can put the genie back in the bottle.

676
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 4: When it comes to his game, You're trying to find

677
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Speaker 4: someone that can manage thing from a mental standpoint to

678
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Speaker 4: help your team win and win at high level.

679
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk about the Raiders for a second. I

680
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: think that with Tom Brady being a minority partner over there,

681
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Speaker 3: I think he's got some He's got some juice, I

682
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 3: really do. I think that he was very vocal behind

683
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 3: the scenes because I didn't hear anything about it, and

684
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Speaker 3: hiring Pete Carroll now the oldest coach in NFL history,

685
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 3: So I don't think he would be afraid to bring

686
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Speaker 3: in a guy like Aaron Rodgers. And why do I

687
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 3: say that because Gardner, Minshew and Aid not O'Connell. Then

688
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: I got to get you to the playoffs. We knew

689
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 3: that in August that there was there was a problem

690
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 3: there with the Vegas quarterback situation. But the good news

691
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 3: is for them there's top quarterbacks in Sanders and uh

692
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: and the kid from Miami cam Ward kim Ward. I

693
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: think that they may still be available for the Raiders.

694
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: So if that's the possibility they're there. I think Aaron

695
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 3: Rodgers is finished.

696
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, I don't think he's the right, Uh,

697
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 4: he's not. He's an acquired taste, that's the best. And

698
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 4: so we'll have to see who wants to kind of

699
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 4: get into that lane and kind of deal with what

700
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Speaker 4: you have to deal with when you when you.

701
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Speaker 2: Take him on.

702
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 4: Look, he has some value, maybe some winning pedigree, qualities

703
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 4: those things, but you got to understand everything that comes

704
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 4: with him personality wise and all that. To me, it's

705
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 4: not an easy situation to step into and deal with.

706
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 3: Now, I got to ask you a personal question. You

707
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 3: got your nose to the ground. In the National Football League.

708
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 3: You know players, and you have to mention names. I

709
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: won't do that to you, but have you talked to

710
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 3: players in the league that have been teammates of Aaron

711
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: Rodgers and what's the consensus of the kind of guy

712
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: he is and kind of teammate he is.

713
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 4: Well, I can't say that I talked to anybody lately

714
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 4: that's been his teammates.

715
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: But the people that have played with him, they love them.

716
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 4: I mean really so outside perception is one thing, but

717
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 4: the guys that have played with them they absolutely adore

718
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: you know, they love them to go to back for him, all.

719
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: Those other things.

720
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 4: But I just know that the things that are done,

721
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 4: how he can go against he can underman minor coach

722
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 4: with his words, with his actions, and those things. You

723
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 4: just got to make sure he buys into the plan,

724
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 4: fully buys into the plan.

725
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: That's the main thing.

726
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 3: Let me throw one other team out there, and maybe

727
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: it's a possibility. I know they got a lot of

728
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: money committed to Deshaun Watson, But what about the Cleveland Browns.

729
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: Is there a possibility that Browns will go after Aaron

730
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: Rodgers because they were in the playoffs a year ago

731
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Speaker 3: with another old guy by the name of Joe Flacco.

732
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Speaker 4: I can't I can't imagine that that would be an

733
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 4: option for the Browns. Given the turmoil that they've dealt

734
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 4: with with Deshaun Watson. I think they would just prefer

735
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 4: to have just like a clean break from all of

736
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 4: the headaches in silliness that goes along with like diva quarterbacks.

737
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Speaker 2: I would look for them to have someone that is

738
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 2: polar opposite.

739
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna give a storyline and this will probably

740
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: never happen, but you know, it's good father for me.

741
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Speaker 2: Okay.

742
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: Back in the year twenty oh five, the number one pick,

743
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: the San Francisco forty nine is drafted Alex Smith over

744
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. Could they bring Aaron Rodgers back now?

745
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I just don't know. I don't know why.

746
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 4: Like, so you're gonna get rid of brock Preide for

747
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 4: one year rental and Aaron Rodgers from a team building standpoint,

748
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 4: doesn't make any sense.

749
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: You're talking about one maybe two years max right for.

750
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, whereas you got Purty in his prime for

751
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 4: a long time.

752
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I wouldn't make that move. I would.

753
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, But you do think he'll be playing next year?

754
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 4: I think egotistically, yeah, he wants to play. I think

755
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 4: he wants to continue to play, So, yeah, he's gonna play.

756
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 3: I would say this. I hope he does playing. Not

757
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 3: that I'm a big fan of Aaron Rodgers because if

758
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: he doesn't play, some network's gonna gobble him up as

759
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: an and I don't want to hear him on TV.

760
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 3: That's why I hope he plays. I don't want to

761
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: turn on the TV and listen to him.

762
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not even comment that he wants to go

763
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 4: in the TV like that, but maybe.

764
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Speaker 3: I will see hiight. I watched Bucky Brooks was doing

765
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 3: those games on Sunday but then I wouldn't be able

766
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: to work with you. I mean, is there a possibility,

767
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: I mean, the network's gotta hire you. I mean, honestly,

768
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Speaker 3: I'm good at I love it. That sounds great. He

769
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Speaker 3: is Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Freman. We are Fox Sports Sunday.

770
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Speaker 3: At Fox Sports. It was time for all the answers.

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775
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Speaker 3: right up by eleven minutes time before the top of

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Speaker 3: the hour. This is Fox Sports Sunday and Foxbusrata. He

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Speaker 3: is Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Farman and went live from

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Speaker 3: the Ti Rock dot Com studios. Right now, It's time

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Speaker 3: for as Bucky. Let's get it done now. Let's go

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00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 3: back a week ago to the Super Bowl the halftime

781
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 3: show Kendrick Lamar and this performance for Kendrick Lamar came

782
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 3: a week after Lamar earned five more Grammy Awards than

783
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Speaker 3: most of any artist at the twenty twenty five ceremony.

784
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: It increased his career total to twenty two However, the

785
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 3: entertainment on the big stage for Kendrick, was it revenge

786
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 3: against Drake or was it truly entertainment? I got to

787
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 3: ask you.

788
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 4: I would say that ahead little to do about Drake

789
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 4: and Moore, do about a political statement regarding the country

790
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 4: and the plight of black Americans in the country. And

791
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 4: so I think if you understand Kendrick Lamar and who

792
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 4: he is, he's a poet first, and so this was

793
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 4: a visual display of his art work playing at in

794
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 4: real time. And I think it might have gone over

795
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 4: the heads of some people who couldn't understand how all

796
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 4: the visual clues matched up. But to me, it was

797
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 4: more about making a statement and less about like the

798
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 4: music and playing the hits that are.

799
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Speaker 2: Synonymous with who he is and what he is as

800
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 2: an artist.

801
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the choreography was great, and obviously Samuel L. Jackson

802
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: was a clear like in his uncle Sam outit the

803
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 3: top hat. Maybe he was a moderator or maybe he

804
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 3: was Lamar's brain telling people what to do. I mean,

805
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 3: you're right, I mean I think it was more about

806
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: that than the music. And again, the choreography was unbelievable.

807
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 3: I mean, Serena Williams even showed up. So we move on,

808
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: all right? Do the United Soccer League the USL, they

809
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 3: intend to have twelve or fourteen team first division leagues

810
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: up and running in twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight.

811
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 3: That would operate as a separate and competing D one

812
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 3: entry from Major League Soccer. So Major League Soccer is

813
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 3: gonna have some competition. Your thoughts about that.

814
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 8: Anytime you have an opportunity to have more jobs in

815
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 8: the pro level four not knowing the landscape, well when

816
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 8: it comes to soccer, you know, I don't know if

817
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 8: there's an appetite for it in terms of being able

818
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 8: to make it a functional deal where people will pay

819
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 8: money and go see them.

820
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 2: But for the athletes, man, I love.

821
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 4: I love just extending the opportunity beyond high school and

822
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 4: college to be able to kind of pursue a passion.

823
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: It's interesting because the MLS is going to go on

824
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 3: Sunday night going against the NFL Football, so perhaps to

825
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 3: new chance se it has no chance.

826
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: Why I would do that, that's suicide.

827
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 3: So the NBA did on Christmas Day. They couldn't. They

828
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 3: have no chance, so they soccer will have no chance.

829
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: Now we move on, the Trump administration is giving schools

830
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 3: permission to ignore the rules requiring equitable treatment of female athletes,

831
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 3: telling them it's okay to funnel the nil millions of

832
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 3: dollars to footballermen's basketball players while throwing women athletes just

833
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: a couple of pennies. What is going on?

834
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Speaker 4: I mean, what's going on is exactly what they said

835
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 4: and promised when they talked about getting rid of diversity, equity,

836
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Speaker 4: and inclusion.

837
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Speaker 2: Women fall up under that.

838
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 4: And so it's not a surprise to see them have

839
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 4: these attacks on Title nine and any other things. They've

840
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 4: made it a point, they ran on a platform to

841
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 4: eliminate those things, and they're carrying out what their voters,

842
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 4: in constition, we want.

843
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: So I'm not surprised by it. Am I disappointed by it?

844
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's when Trump won the presidency.

845
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: This is part of the plan, and this is part

846
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 2: of the approach.

847
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: And I'll say it sucks. How's that? All right? Speaking

848
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 3: of women, Autumn Lockwood she made history and Super fifty seven,

849
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: how she became the first black woman to coach in

850
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. Now, I won't know why isn't she

851
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: getting more exposure? She is, in fact the Rosa parks

852
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 3: of football.

853
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 4: Well, we're at a time we're just coming off to

854
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 4: the last conversation diversity, equity, inclusion.

855
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: We're not celebrating things that are.

856
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 4: Tied to affinity groups, if you will, So no Black

857
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 4: History Months celebrations, We're not acknowledging those things.

858
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: That's just kind of where we're at. And so despite

859
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 2: the great feat and.

860
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 4: Accomplishment, we are at a point where people are scared

861
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 4: to acknowledge those things, particularly.

862
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: When it's tied to race. And so it's a great

863
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: accomplishment for her.

864
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 4: It's unfortunate that it flies under radar, but that's kind

865
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 4: of where we are at. That's the state of the

866
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 4: country right now.

867
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: I will acknowledge it, and Buck, I will tell you

868
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 3: right now, I would love to get her on this show,

869
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: but I don't know if I want to wake her

870
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Speaker 3: up at that at a weird hour of the morning. Okay,

871
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 3: see if I could squeeze this one here. Travis Kelsey

872
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 3: said he won't make a swift decision on his playing future.

873
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: Why should Travis Kelce retire.

874
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 4: I mean, like, look, it's every player like you want

875
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 4: to play as long as you can. I would say

876
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 4: he's a declining diminishing player. But if they want to

877
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 4: continue to pay him and let him play, then he

878
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 4: should play as long as he wants.

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Speaker 3: There we go. Okay, he said it was a locker

880
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Speaker 3: for losers. That has so much more right here on

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Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks, how are you? How are you? Post Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: Man?

891
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 4: I can't complain. I'm excited that we're turning the page.

892
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 4: We're done with the twenty twenty four campaign and our

893
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 4: are on twenty twenty five, the draft and all the

894
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 4: things that are going to be great about watching teams

895
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 4: put together new squads.

896
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Speaker 3: Does it get tougher for you in this postseason, post

897
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: football Super Bowl because you kind of do these mock draft?

898
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: How many mock drafts do you do and the work

899
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: that you have to do to uncover who's going to

900
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: go wear and what players are going to be drafted.

901
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like anytime you start looking at the

902
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 4: next year's class, I mean it becomes a challenge. The

903
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 4: mock draft stuff is for entertainment value, right. It's everyone

904
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 4: in their mom does a mock draft and putting in

905
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 4: the dogs.

906
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: It's not so how many people do how many do you?

907
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, like four or five that they have

908
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: me do or whatever.

909
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 4: But I care less about the mock draft and more

910
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 4: about the list where you have top fives in those

911
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 4: things because to me, that's when my opinion really comes out.

912
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 4: Like the mock drafts are what I think people are

913
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 4: gonna do, not necessarily what I would do. When I'm

914
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 4: ranking someone one to five, one to ten, that's how

915
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 4: I really feel about those players.

916
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Speaker 3: Well, while you're doing the mock I'll be watching basketball

917
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: because this is you know, march Manness time. And I

918
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: do want to give a shout out because I love

919
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 3: Kelvin Sampson. I love the fact that he came back

920
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: to college basketball and he's dominating. I mean, first year

921
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: in the Big Twelve. I mean, this guy is dominating

922
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: the Big twelve last year and this year. He really

923
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Speaker 3: it's amazing to me. I mean, I look at University

924
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Speaker 3: of Cincinnati. They came in, they can't get a five

925
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: hundred record in the Big twelve. I don't know what

926
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Speaker 3: he does. He must be one hell of a coach.

927
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Speaker 3: And I watched that game yesterday against Arizona and they

928
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 3: beat Arizona and they really beat him up physically, and

929
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 3: they were back and forth until like the last seven

930
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 3: eight minutes of that ballgame and then they took control.

931
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Speaker 3: He's one hell of a coach, he really is. I

932
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 3: remember when he coached in Indiana and they read some problems

933
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: there with the NCAA. Then he went to the Milwaukee

934
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Speaker 3: Bucks as an assistant, and now he's in Houston and

935
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Speaker 3: really he's turned that program around. I'll get some kudos

936
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Speaker 3: to Kelvin Sampson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now they're tough squad.

938
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Speaker 4: And watching that game it was on right before Carolina played,

939
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 4: I had a chance to watch, you know, Houston play and.

940
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: They're tough to scrappy. They really are.

941
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 4: Defensive minded team. But against Arizona, they were hitting three pointers.

942
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 4: They were hitting shots early, and Arizona's a good team.

943
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 4: Arizona's kind of remade themselves in terms of the image

944
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Speaker 4: from being an offensive team to being more scrappy and

945
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Speaker 4: gritty on defense.

946
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Speaker 2: Really good game.

947
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Speaker 4: But you can't say enough about the job that Kevin

948
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Speaker 4: Sampson has done in Houston.

949
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Speaker 2: I want to say the.

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Speaker 4: Record is twenty seven and four, twenty eight and four,

951
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Speaker 4: something like that.

952
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: That conference ridiculous that.

953
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 4: You know he's been able to accomplish as a tough

954
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 4: minded team much like the coach, no.

955
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Speaker 3: Doubt about that. I want to move into a little

956
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: bit of football situation. What's happened over the last several days,

957
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: and it was the great Lincoln Kennedy. And I say

958
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 3: Lincoln Kennedy is great. I love him to death. I

959
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 3: love him, maybe almost as much as I love you, really,

960
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 3: but I love Lincoln Kennedy. He was my former Foxbuts

961
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 3: radio partner. We used to work on Sundays and he

962
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 3: told me the worst thing you could ever call an athlete,

963
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: any athlete in any sport, is the word soft. And

964
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: I remember I mentioned that, and you even agree with

965
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 3: me on that. Correct, We just don't say that, all right,

966
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: But the next thing must be the words loser. And

967
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 3: that's what former Carolina quarterback Cam Newton called the Carolina

968
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 3: Panthers locker room a locker room of losers. I don't

969
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: know why he did it, but let's take a listen

970
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: to Cam Newton. He was with the Fourth and One

971
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: Cam Newton Podcast. This is what he said.

972
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Speaker 9: When I was the first pick, I went into a

973
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 9: locker room of losers.

974
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: How did you end the pressure of being the top pick.

975
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 2: Let's put it in perspective.

976
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 10: You're the top pick because what no, no, no, no

977
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 10: that you're looking at it from a personal situation. I'm

978
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 10: talking about from the professional situation. You're the top pick

979
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 10: because that was the worst team in the NFL the

980
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 10: year before.

981
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 9: For me, I wanted to be the number one pick.

982
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: You could potentially be.

983
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 9: The first pick, but bro, you have no way of

984
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 9: impacting the game like a quarterback.

985
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 2: Down.

986
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 9: You can lock down the number one receiver, you can

987
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 9: make impact plays on offense all you want, but it's

988
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 9: still not like a quarterback. My issue is when I

989
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 9: was the first pick, I went into a locker room

990
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 9: of losers. Guys in how to win, guys who know

991
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 9: how to prepare it. It was a culture shock for me.

992
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 9: The games don't mean a lot to a lot of

993
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 9: people in the league like you would expect.

994
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: It's just money. Not everybody has capabilities to be impact players.

995
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: They're just players.

996
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 3: Wow. Cam Newton on the fourth and one podcast with

997
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: Cam Newton saying when he went to Carolina, it was

998
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: a locker room full of losers. And my first question

999
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 3: when I'm hearing this is like why, why, now, why

1000
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 3: are you doing And I guess the answer would be

1001
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 3: in this day and age, and I'm going GoF on

1002
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 3: a tangent a little bit, you do it for clicks.

1003
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 3: You know, we're in a life now, We're in an

1004
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 3: area where athletes and people in sports sports media are

1005
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: into sports takes. Takes in sports not so much that

1006
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 3: one who says it believes what he says. But they

1007
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: said for sensationalism, for podcast clicks, to get your name

1008
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: out there. And that's my take. That's why Cam Newton

1009
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: did it. There is no reason whatsoever for him to

1010
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: attack the team that wrote checks to him, and he

1011
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 3: did well with them. I mean he did. He was

1012
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: an MVP in the Super Bowl. Right now, I mean,

1013
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: no one really cares what the Carolina Panthers. So all

1014
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,479
Speaker 3: of a sudden, he goes off and says, a locker

1015
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: room full of losers, I don't get it. Maybe you

1016
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 3: have the answer why he would say that, I don't.

1017
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: Because it was true.

1018
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 4: The team was one in fifteen before he got there,

1019
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 4: and he was trying to tell Travis Hunter because Travis

1020
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 4: Hunter wants to be the number one pick. He was saying, Man,

1021
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 4: if you're the number one overall pick, you're putting yourself

1022
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 4: in a no win situation because you can't impact the

1023
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 4: game like a quarterback. So if the team is one

1024
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 4: in fifteen, one to sixteen this year.

1025
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 2: Then they sucked.

1026
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 4: Next year, they gonna look to you as a non

1027
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 4: impactful player or in addition to the team, whereas if

1028
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 4: you were a quarterback, the quarterback touches the ball every play.

1029
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 4: Everyone acknowledges that the quarterback has the most influence and

1030
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 4: impact on the game. That is why those guys go

1031
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: number one for Cam. Though, I think people on to

1032
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 4: the comments that he said loser and those things, you

1033
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 4: got to remember Cam Newton at the time was coming

1034
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 4: off of winning a national championship at Auburn. He only

1035
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 4: had one pro with him on that that was Nick Farley.

1036
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 4: No one else on that team was a pro of significance.

1037
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 4: It was Cam newtonick Farley leading Auburn to a national title.

1038
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 4: So in his mind, he's like, yes, I'm a winner,

1039
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 4: I'm coming from a winning program, I have winning petigree.

1040
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 4: I Am going to use that influence to help these

1041
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 4: guys learn how to win in those things. And by

1042
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 4: and large, that is what he did in Carolina. I

1043
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 4: think people like people in the public are funny because

1044
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 4: it depends on who utters it right. Because there's a

1045
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 4: disdain for Cam Newton because he was a polarizing player,

1046
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 4: not only as a collegiate but as a professional. People

1047
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 4: always kind of latch on to see the negativity and

1048
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 4: what he says. But what he's saying has been said.

1049
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 4: I've said in front office meetings where they talk about

1050
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 4: we need to bring in players from winning organizations, who

1051
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 4: were captains, who were leaders, so that they can infuse

1052
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 4: the locker room with positivity, optimism, and professionalism to allow

1053
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 4: us to win. What Cam is saying is right because

1054
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 4: that's how most people within the league think. When you're

1055
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 4: at the top, you're picking at the top of the draft,

1056
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 4: your team was not great and so that's a truthful statement.

1057
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny because I found Cam Newton to

1058
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 3: be rather engaging. Back when they had the Super Bowl

1059
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: in Indianapolis, I was on Radio Row and I chatted

1060
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: with Cam Newton and I even asked him about social

1061
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 3: media at the time, and he says he doesn't do that,

1062
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 3: so he's changed. I guess, you know, you change with

1063
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 3: the times because there's money to be made with social media,

1064
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 3: and maybe that's why he did it. But Steve Smith

1065
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 3: Senior took exception to what Sam said with Cam said,

1066
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 3: and I guess that's exactly what Cam want in a response.

1067
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 3: You say something, but you know, you want to make

1068
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 3: sure someone's listen. You got a response. So what happened

1069
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 3: was Cam Newton says, I'm not specifically talking about the guys.

1070
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the culture that was there prior to

1071
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 3: me coming to the locker room that was a loser's mentality. Well,

1072
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 3: it is the guys they're in the locker room, isn't it.

1073
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 3: I mean just just say, if you played with Cam

1074
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 3: Newton and you heard this, will you be a little

1075
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 3: p oed?

1076
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess, like having not played there, I

1077
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 4: don't know what the terms was. But I'm gonna say, man,

1078
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 4: when you lose that amount of games, the culture is

1079
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 4: not right, Like there's something that's missing within the culture

1080
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 4: when you lose, when you lose a significant amount of games,

1081
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 4: there's something that's eating away, Like, yeah, you can be

1082
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 4: a developmental squad and those things, but there's still some

1083
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 4: people on that team that don't fully buy into what

1084
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 4: it is that you're selling as a coach, as an organization.

1085
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 4: I think he's acknowledging that that is a loser's mentality,

1086
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 4: and that loses mentality develops quickly if you're not careful,

1087
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 4: and so you do have to eradicate it. You got

1088
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 4: to get it out of there. You got to figure

1089
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 4: out a way for us to win. You got to

1090
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 4: flip the mindset.

1091
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 2: And it takes new blood, new energy.

1092
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 4: People coming in from winning programs to be able to

1093
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 4: do that, because when you're a professional, you can get

1094
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 4: paid regardless of whether the team wins or loses, and

1095
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 4: so it becomes a very much a me centric endeavor.

1096
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah I'm on the team, but as long as I

1097
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 4: get mine, I'm gonna be okay.

1098
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 2: So you begin to think.

1099
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 4: About yourself as opposed to lifting up the team. I'm

1100
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 4: sure he's talking about some of that too. When you

1101
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 4: walk into a locker room like that, you do have

1102
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 4: people that are playing for themselves and not playing for

1103
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 4: the entire team.

1104
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 3: You brought up a word that I keep on hearing

1105
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 3: over and over again, and maybe you could dissect it

1106
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 3: from me because and even Cam Newton said this, I'm

1107
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 3: not specifically talking about the guys. I'm talking about the

1108
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 3: culture that was there prior to him coming to that

1109
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 3: locker room. It was to lose his mentality. I want

1110
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 3: to know when and if this word culture came into

1111
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 3: to play in the world of sports. What is culture

1112
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 3: to me? You've got a coach that knows how to win.

1113
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: You get players, you coach them up, you get winning players,

1114
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 3: and that's it and you win. You know, culture is

1115
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 3: not a long term effect. You know, you got the

1116
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine ers has had a winning culture,

1117
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 3: did have one last year, right the Cincinnati Bengals for

1118
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 3: the longest time out of losing culture, They've got Joe Burrow,

1119
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 3: they go to the Super Bowl. Now they're back to

1120
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 3: where they were again. So the culture cannot be long

1121
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 3: term And basically, what is it and how do you

1122
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 3: form culture on a team.

1123
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 4: Well, here's what I'll say, because I think the word

1124
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 4: has been hijacked. Above word because you have a lot

1125
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 4: of different people, whether it's from business or whatever, that

1126
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 4: have jumped into team sports. They look to team sports

1127
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 4: and they want to take bits and pieces or whatever.

1128
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 4: Culture is basically a group of people that share the

1129
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 4: same vision and values when it comes to being successful.

1130
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 4: They're able to be committed, accountable, and trustworthy to one another.

1131
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 4: They're willing to put the interests of the team or

1132
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 4: company ahead of their own individual interests, and it's important

1133
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 4: for them that everybody that is on the team has

1134
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 4: the same kind of mentality. People don't like to use

1135
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 4: the word culture because everyone talks.

1136
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: About it and they're like, oh, it's annoying. Every team

1137
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: has culture.

1138
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 4: No culture allows you to sustain success. They're teams that

1139
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 4: can have a good year, but teams with great cultures

1140
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 4: sustain their success time and time again. And those traits

1141
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,959
Speaker 4: and values I passed down from older.

1142
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 2: Players to younger players.

1143
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 4: And so if you think about traditions, it is part

1144
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 4: of that. Traditions and a belief system and rules and

1145
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 4: standards and all of that that's passed down from one

1146
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 4: generation to the next. So when you step into the

1147
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 4: locker room, there's an expectation.

1148
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: A for us, this is how we get down here.

1149
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 4: Don't know how it was at other places, but for us,

1150
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 4: this is what the expectations are. It is clearly communicated,

1151
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 4: it's acted upon, and if you fall short of the line,

1152
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 4: they quickly correct you and bring you back into the fold,

1153
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 4: or they get rid of you.

1154
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 3: I hate to put you on the spot, but I'm

1155
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 3: going to do it anyway. I'm going to throw a

1156
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 3: couple of teams out there, and you tell me what

1157
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 3: happened to the culture? You know, when the New England

1158
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 3: Patriots are winning Super Bowls and Bill Belichick was the coach,

1159
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 3: I guess people said they had great culture. Great, he's gone. Now,

1160
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,959
Speaker 3: I mean, where's the tradition. There's no culture there now.

1161
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 3: They were terrible last year. They were of the worst

1162
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 3: teams in the National Football League. So it's culture. An

1163
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 3: individual that brings the culture. I mean, does it stay

1164
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 3: with the team, How does it work? I mean, I

1165
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 3: hear it all the time and people just throw the

1166
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 3: term out there behind the microphone. They have no idea

1167
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 3: what it means. I want to know what it means.

1168
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: And Bucky Brooks, you played the game, so you know

1169
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 3: what it means. You played on teams that maybe may

1170
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 3: effect quote bad culture. Now, the New England Patriots had

1171
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 3: great culture until Bill Belichick left and Tom.

1172
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 4: Brady and to remember, everyone run him out because he

1173
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 4: had some losings.

1174
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 2: But if you go you're looking at.

1175
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 3: I think we lost my partner.

1176
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: It was the tight games and he's less salent and

1177
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 2: so everyone.

1178
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 4: Was like, oh, I gotta get him out. He's Tom Brady.

1179
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 4: Tom Brady's everything this and that. No, but when you

1180
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 4: remove the leader and.

1181
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 2: The gatekeeper of the culture, the culture changed.

1182
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 4: And also what the Patriots wanted, and this was by

1183
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 4: Robert Kraft, the different type culture. They wanted it more peaceful,

1184
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 4: let's go along and get along culture. So drop Mayo

1185
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 4: and these other guys, and they tried to do everything

1186
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 4: drastically different than it was done under the twenty years

1187
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 4: with Bill Belichick. And we saw what it looked like terrible.

1188
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 2: So what did they go?

1189
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 4: And do they go and get Mike Rabel who has

1190
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 4: a culture that is very similar to the one that

1191
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick operates, whereas Hard knows it's gritty.

1192
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: It's tough, it's a lot of work, a lot of.

1193
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 4: Demands, but out of those demands come great results because

1194
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 4: everyone is held accountable to meeting the standard. So yeah,

1195
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 4: like I'm not surprised to see it happen in New England.

1196
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,720
Speaker 4: Once they let that go, you can't bring it back.

1197
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 4: If you allow it to slip, it's hard to bring

1198
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 4: it back. And so that's why you have to have gatekeepers.

1199
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick was the gatekeeper and they had a lot

1200
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 4: of players who believed.

1201
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: And listening to Teddy.

1202
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 4: Bruski talk on TV about the culture that they had,

1203
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 4: I worked with.

1204
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 2: Willim McGinnis, William McGinnis.

1205
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 4: We're talking about the expectations and how players held each

1206
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 4: other to a high standard.

1207
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: It is those things.

1208
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 4: It's not just the coach telling you, but it's players

1209
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 4: taking the baton from the coach and saying.

1210
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: Coach, we got it.

1211
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 4: We're going to make sure that everyone here upholds the

1212
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 4: standards and the expectations.

1213
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 3: Oh this so now I'm hearing. I mean, the coach

1214
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 3: is a vital part of the so called culture, and

1215
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 3: I think I'd rather have a coach that could bring

1216
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 3: that culture to a locker room that knows culture, not

1217
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 3: a handler couture more so than maybe extras and o's. Right,

1218
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 3: look at the One More team. Let's look at the

1219
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 3: Raiders for the longest time, Al Davis. He had a

1220
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 3: hell of a culture out there and went down the crapper,

1221
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 3: it really did. So you got to get a coach

1222
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 3: who could mold a team into that culture, that a

1223
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 3: winning attitude. And I'd rather have that kind of a

1224
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 3: guy more so than a guy who was an expert

1225
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 3: with extras and o's and stays up till two in

1226
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 3: the morning watching film.

1227
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 4: Really, I would say it's a few different things, because

1228
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 4: some what you're saying is correct, but it extends beyond that.

1229
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 4: A great culture is more than just what the coach does.

1230
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 4: A great culture is created when ownership establishes a here's

1231
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 4: some of the things that we believe in. When we

1232
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 4: see our team or anyone that goes into the organization,

1233
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 4: they need to have these characteristics when.

1234
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: It comes to their core values.

1235
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 4: Tough, hardworking, smart, detailed this and that. So it's not

1236
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 4: only the coach bringing it is the owner for the

1237
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 4: hero expectations for our employees. And then a coach takes

1238
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 4: his cue. Yeah, m hmm, this is what.

1239
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 2: We believe in.

1240
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 4: People hate it, but look, I'm a big fan of

1241
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 4: the Miami Heat, right he all those other things, and

1242
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 4: people think it's like that.

1243
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: When we walked to.

1244
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 4: The building, people that play there, that worked there, talking

1245
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 4: about it is very expectations. Are you for us? They're clearly,

1246
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 4: it's clearly communicated. You're you're held accountable, meaning those things.

1247
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 4: Coach bring some things, but without the support of ownership,

1248
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 4: it doesn't work. Let's look at Detroit and Dan Campbell

1249
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 4: because he wasn't an X and OS guy, but.

1250
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 2: He talked at that first presser about how they.

1251
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 4: Were going to be and it came off like wearding punky,

1252
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 4: like well, you're gonna bite kneecaps, whatever, but you're talking

1253
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 4: about the grit and the feistiness.

1254
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 2: Ownership was in lockstep with him.

1255
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 4: So when he started back, because he started out terrible

1256
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 4: there three and thirteen, they were one and six the

1257
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 4: next year, and then it flipped. They believed in this visit,

1258
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 4: they wanted that and anybody what the city of Detroit

1259
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 4: was also.

1260
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 3: About sounds great, all right, I got it. I understand now.

1261
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 3: And there's a couple of other things I want to

1262
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 3: get to with you. That involves one of the teams

1263
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 3: you're working with, so we'll get to that as well.

1264
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 3: He is Bucky Brooks. Get him on Twitter, Get him

1265
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 3: on ex at Bucket Brooks had Andy Furman FSR. Get

1266
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 3: us on the phone. Yes, we'll chat with you if

1267
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 3: you want to chat with us. Eight seven seven ninety

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Speaker 3: three sixty nine. We're gonna have the bottom barrel betting

1270
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 3: final results on Crown the Champion. I think we know

1271
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 3: who that might be, and then we'll have the Blame

1272
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 3: game and our number three. But we'll have yay and

1273
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 3: ay in this hour, all coming up next right here

1274
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 3: on Fox. It's never too early for surprises. That's coming

1275
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 3: right up all right. He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman.

1276
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,120
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1277
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1281
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1288
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 3: Now we have ya or nay and the final bottom

1289
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 3: barrel betting results in about ten to twelve minutes from now. However,

1290
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 3: there's a bigger story, and the biggest story I think

1291
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 3: may involve Bucky Brooks because you're involved to some extent,

1292
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 3: I know with the Jacksonville Jaguars, right, and there's a

1293
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 3: trade I guess the jack jack talking about a possible

1294
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 3: trade maybe with the Steelers for quarterback Trevor Lawrence to

1295
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 3: the Steelers. What are you hearing on this?

1296
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 4: That it was nothing, there's nothing to it, that the

1297
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 4: conversation was nothing. That summers seeing that the conversation never happened.

1298
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 4: I can't imagine the Jaguars being willing to trade Trevor

1299
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 4: Lawrence given the commitment to him, given the fact that

1300
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 4: they hired a head coach with him specifically in mind.

1301
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't think there was anything to it.

1302
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 4: And also you have to remember the jacksman Jaguars are

1303
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 4: operating without a true general manager. Ethan Wall right now

1304
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 4: is the interim general manager, but I can't imagine Sha

1305
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 4: Khan signing off on any major deals right now to

1306
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 4: the new general manager is in place. So to me,

1307
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 4: it was a lot about nothing good.

1308
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 3: And they said there was report that circulated. I think

1309
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 3: it was this past Thursday, after the Steelers asked the

1310
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 3: Jaguars about Lawrence and it was on the Big ten network.

1311
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 3: I think it was reported there. And then all of

1312
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 3: a sudden, I think the Jaguars disputed the report. You know,

1313
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 3: I never understood that it's not true, and you tell

1314
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 3: me it's not true, and you would know you got

1315
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 3: some inside information. Why dispute it? Just ignore it? I mean,

1316
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 3: why go out there and dispute it, because you can

1317
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 3: only look foolish. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong about that,

1318
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 3: but the Jags disputed it. Maybe you got to dispute

1319
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 3: that because people get up in arms and fans go crazies.

1320
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why they did that. But I wouldn't dispute it.

1321
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 3: Just ignore it, you know.

1322
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: Just igno.

1323
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, the ignoring thing doesn't work like as much as

1324
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,439
Speaker 4: we say, because then a lack of acknowledge is viewed

1325
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 4: as an omission of guilt. So if they didn't do it,

1326
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 4: they need to come out and say, oh no, we

1327
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 4: weren't involved in this.

1328
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 2: This is a leak from the other side, not from outside.

1329
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 4: We love Trevor this and that because the player, regardless

1330
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 4: of whether it's real or not.

1331
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 2: The player, now.

1332
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 4: Here's the rumors and he thinks that it's true unless

1333
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 4: you come out an issue of flat denial. So you

1334
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 4: have to do it to protect a relationship with the player.

1335
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 2: Good point.

1336
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't know that, and that's why you're here,

1337
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 3: because you set me straight. You got I detour off

1338
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 3: the high a little bit, and you pushed me right

1339
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 3: back on my lane. That's good. Now, let's talk about

1340
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence. For a second number one overall pick in

1341
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 3: the draft of twenty twenty one, he threw for over

1342
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 3: two thousand yards, eleven touchdown seven. It tis last year.

1343
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 3: He was injured a little bit, completed almost sixty one

1344
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 3: percent of his passes, signed a five year, two enty

1345
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 3: seventy five million contract. All right, here's my question. Eagles

1346
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl. Do the Eagles win the Super

1347
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 3: Bowl with Trevor Lawrence's quarterback.

1348
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think so.

1349
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 4: I think Jalen Hurst is the right guy for that team,

1350
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 4: not only because of what he does on the field,

1351
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 4: with his athleticism, his arm, his legs. I think he's

1352
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 4: a common influence that allows his team to be at

1353
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 4: his best. When your coach is emotional, like Nick sirianni is,

1354
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 4: you need a grown up in the room, a mature

1355
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 4: leader to can handle everything and balance it all out.

1356
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 4: That's what Jalen Hurst is. I love Trevor Lawrence, but

1357
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence is different in terms of that capacity. Like,

1358
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 4: I don't think you can just simply swap him in

1359
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 4: and say older are going to Super Bowl.

1360
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 2: And Nigga do the same things.

1361
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 4: I think that's being dismissive and disrespectful of Jalen Hurst's

1362
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 4: talents and his contributions.

1363
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,919
Speaker 3: How was she viewed in Jacksonville? You would know better

1364
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 3: than most. I mean not only with the media, but

1365
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 3: with the fans, because I know Joe Burrow could do

1366
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 3: no wrong. He walks on water here in Cincinnati.

1367
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 4: I mean, look, Trevor's favorably viewed. I think people feel

1368
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 4: like Trevor's gotten a raw deal in Jacksonville. You think

1369
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 4: about the constant turnover and coaches. He's already working on

1370
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 4: his third head coach, several different offensive coordinators, never necessarily

1371
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 4: had the front line in front of him to protect him,

1372
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 4: and then some of it is on him, you know,

1373
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 4: unfairly for Trevor. He was hailed as a generational talent

1374
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 4: from the time he stepped on the field high school

1375
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 4: in college, and so everyone just continues to repeat those words,

1376
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 4: generational talent, generational.

1377
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 2: Talent, he was the next Alway, etc. Etc.

1378
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence has potentially be a top five quarterback in

1379
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 4: this league, but he has to grow on the field.

1380
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 2: His game has to go up a notch.

1381
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 4: But he's a really good player and he does a

1382
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 4: lot of good stuff. It's just that it hasn't translated

1383
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 4: into wins, and the last couple of years he's been

1384
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 4: beat up. But I would say his Q rating is

1385
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 4: pretty positive in Jacksonville.

1386
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 2: Now it's about not only loving who he is as.

1387
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 4: A person, but now making sure that that player the

1388
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 4: impact is felt where people not only love him as

1389
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 4: a person, but they love him as a playmaker.

1390
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 3: All right, good here, Now, now you mentioned the fact

1391
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 3: that you're excited about looking forward to draft or your

1392
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 3: mock drafts, and what's going on right now. You know,

1393
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 3: let's take a peek at the future right now. I

1394
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 3: don't think it's too early. We talk about some of

1395
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 3: the surprise. Let the Commanders and Vikings big surprises this

1396
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 3: past season. Okay, well, no, who's going to be the

1397
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 3: big surprise next year? I don't think it's too early.

1398
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 3: I'm looking at a couple of teams and one of

1399
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 3: them is the La Charger. The people are gonna say, well,

1400
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 3: they were a surprise this year. They went from five

1401
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 3: wins to eleven. I just think that, you know, Jim

1402
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 3: Holbar is not finished. I mean, he's got a lot

1403
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 3: of money in the cap space. I just think that

1404
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 3: this could be a real big surprise next year. You

1405
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 3: get another wide out guy for Justin Harbitt, and you

1406
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 3: don't know how far this team the Charges can go.

1407
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 2: I'm with you, I mean, I think the Charges are

1408
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: right there. You're one of Jim Harbor.

1409
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 4: Era was very successful in terms of implementing the plan,

1410
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 4: revamping the culture, getting the right type guys in the

1411
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 4: locker room. Now it's about upgrading the roster with playmakers.

1412
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 4: We talked about lat mcconcky, immediate impact player on a

1413
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 4: thousand yards as a rookie, but they need someone on

1414
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 4: the other side that can alleviate some of the burden

1415
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 4: on him to carry the load. I'll say a running

1416
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 4: game running back JK. Dobbins is a free agent. They

1417
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 4: were able to get away with him, and I guess

1418
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 4: that was in those things. But man, a Marquie running

1419
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 4: back changes everything when it comes to it.

1420
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 2: So there's some things that the Charges can do.

1421
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 4: They gotta make decisions on the pass Rusus Khalil Mack

1422
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 4: and Joey Bosa, but they should be right there, and

1423
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 4: they should be right there for the foreseeable future.

1424
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask a big ee now, Okay. I love

1425
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 3: Jim Howbaugh. I think he's a marvelous Oh. You're a

1426
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 3: great motivator, no doubt about that. And you talk about

1427
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 3: the term culture. He's changed cultures basically at University of

1428
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 3: Michigan and now he's doing it in LA with the Charges.

1429
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 3: And I want to know what kind of a difference

1430
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 3: a coach makes. If Jim Harbaugh would coach the Cincinnati Bengals,

1431
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 3: would they have more success.

1432
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 4: If they fully gave him the autonomy to coach a

1433
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 4: team his way. Yes, because he's an old school coach

1434
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 4: who believes in certain things.

1435
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 2: They're gonna be a tough.

1436
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 4: Team, they're gonna be a smart team when it comes

1437
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 4: to situations. They have a clear identity and they're gonna.

1438
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 2: Play to that at all times.

1439
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 4: So they're eventually going to be a better team because

1440
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 4: everyone is going to know exactly what's expected. You're gonna

1441
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 4: know what we're gonna run, what our brand is, like,

1442
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 4: how we're gonna play. And I'll say this, like they

1443
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 4: play a style of ball that everyone's not built to play.

1444
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 4: When you run right at people and you're physical and

1445
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 4: you're subtly creative with your past concepts that manage you

1446
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 4: run stuff you're hard to deal with, harder to defin.

1447
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 4: So not he's going to build when or wherever he goes.

1448
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 4: I've seen it up close and personal. University of San Diego, Din, Stanford,

1449
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 4: Den San Francisco, Michigan, and now the Chargers.

1450
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 2: Why would it ever change there?

1451
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 3: You go, Okay, so we got the charge, we put

1452
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 3: a check marks. I think I'm gonna throw in the

1453
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks. And you're gonna say, well, why is that?

1454
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 3: Because I know they only moved from nine wins to

1455
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 3: ten wins this past year, but their defense made a

1456
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 3: big jump on the Mike McDonald as a new head coach,

1457
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 3: and it was his first season. I think they went

1458
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 3: like from twenty ninth in points allowed to like fourth

1459
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 3: or fifth in the league. And he's a pretty good,

1460
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 3: real good defensive coach. But I think the problem with

1461
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 3: Seattle right now has to be the offense. What is

1462
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 3: going to be the future with Gino Smith? Is it

1463
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 3: time to get another quarterback, maybe a franchise quarterback on

1464
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 3: the wings getting him developed. What's the story with their

1465
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 3: quarterback situation in Seattle?

1466
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I think they would have continue to

1467
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 4: look for young quarterbacks. I mean that's always going to

1468
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 4: be part of what they do. But Sam Howell is

1469
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 4: on the roster. He had started some games in Washed

1470
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 4: and he's young ish, you know, twenty five, twenty six

1471
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 4: steel enough growth potential that you can worry about. And Gino,

1472
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 4: for all the things that people hate about him, man,

1473
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 4: Gino is really good when he's put in an offense

1474
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 4: that plays to his strengths as a rhythm passer. The

1475
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 4: ball has to come out quickly, but you gotta have

1476
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 4: guys that can get open quickly, and you got to

1477
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,839
Speaker 4: create concepts that allow them to get open quickly.

1478
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,799
Speaker 2: That's part of the reason why Clint.

1479
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 4: Kubiak could be involved, is because they want to go

1480
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 4: to a run play.

1481
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 2: Action system that marries together.

1482
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 4: So the shots that Gino takes is look an excellent

1483
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 4: deep all thrower. You're scoring touchdowns as supposed to just

1484
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 4: getting first downs.

1485
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to throw in. One of the teams

1486
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 3: that'll be a surprise next year is a San Francisco

1487
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 3: forty nine. Is the people are gonna gasp, don't hold

1488
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 3: your breath through. I know, I know they were six

1489
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 3: and eleven. I'm not writing that team off. They got

1490
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 3: a hell of a culture. And I'm using that term

1491
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 3: because I'm learning it from you. They've been the two

1492
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 3: Super Bowls in the last six years and had too

1493
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 3: many injuries right now to write them off six and eleven,

1494
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 3: and they got a new defensive coordinator. I know he

1495
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 3: couldn't make it as a head coach in New York

1496
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 3: with the Jets, Robert Saylor, but I think Sala is

1497
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 3: going to do a heck of a job defensively, and

1498
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 3: they did a decent job defensively, but look what they missed.

1499
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 3: You know, Auk, Brandon, Auk towards ACL Christian mccaffreys missed

1500
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 3: a lot of the games last year. I just think

1501
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 3: that Nick Boser missed a couple of games, right, Troy Williams,

1502
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 3: he missed a lot of games. So there's just too

1503
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 3: many guys missing too many games. I think the forty

1504
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 3: nine ers will surprise and they'll be back.

1505
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 4: I think they take him a couple of years to

1506
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 4: get back, because the thing that helped San Francisco forty

1507
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 4: nine is get to the top is the thing that

1508
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 4: you saw play out in the Super Bowl.

1509
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,799
Speaker 2: They were dominant in the trenches, particularly on the defensive line.

1510
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 4: They're no longer that team, you know, they no longer

1511
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 4: have all those first round picks committed to the line

1512
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 4: of scrimmage. And what you're saying is you're not getting

1513
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 4: the same kind of impact that you used to get

1514
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:51,759
Speaker 4: from that pastorst that front.

1515
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 2: They have to go back to who they are. Remembered.

1516
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:58,879
Speaker 4: The main ingredients of the championship recipe was defensive line.

1517
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 4: Talent driven defensive line six seven, eight bodies that you

1518
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 4: could throw in and have success. Until they get back

1519
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 4: to that, it doesn't matter. We're talking about a bunch

1520
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 4: of different things. Until they get back to playing the

1521
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 4: right way, they won't win.

1522
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 3: Interesting Okay, And look, Deebo Samuel, I mean they may

1523
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 3: be getting rid of him. He may be gone. That's

1524
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 3: a loss.

1525
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, like, look, he's not a route runner.

1526
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 4: He's a playmaker. And as teams are figuring out how

1527
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 4: to crack the code, they're playing more man demand.

1528
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 2: He can't get open.

1529
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 4: He's rendered useless in an offense because he's not a

1530
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 4: premier route runner against tight, sticky coverage.

1531
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 2: So you have to figure out a way how do

1532
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 2: you get him involved.

1533
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 4: He didn't want to do the running back thing anymore

1534
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 4: because he said that right after he sounded his big contract.

1535
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 4: Like so so now you got to figure it out.

1536
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 4: That's a lot, you know, a lot. There's a lot

1537
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 4: of pressure. It's a lot to deal with. And uh,

1538
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 4: I think as this team gets older, you have to

1539
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 4: make hard decisions. And I say the hard decisions need

1540
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 4: to meet made a year two soon rather than a

1541
01:10:59,240 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 4: year two late.

1542
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 2: Because they can cripple your franchise and.

1543
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 3: That's what the Patriots used to do all the time,

1544
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 3: get rid of the guy before before the year too soon.

1545
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 3: And look, I will say this, you're not putting a

1546
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 3: CHECKMNK next to the forty nine ers. You don't think

1547
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 3: they may be in the playoffs next year.

1548
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 4: No, I'm not putting it. I'm not putting it in

1549
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 4: there because they have put a lot of question marks.

1550
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know who their wide receiver is

1551
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 4: going to be.

1552
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 2: Brandon A.

1553
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 4: You trade away Deebo saying your brand Nayuck is coming

1554
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 4: off an ACL injury. It may take him a year

1555
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 4: and a half, two years to come back and be

1556
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 4: the guy that we once saw.

1557
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of uncertainty.

1558
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 3: Okay, I am putting a check mark next to the

1559
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers, and don't say what I know. They were

1560
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 3: five and twelve. However, they have their franchise quarterback I

1561
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 3: believe it in Bryce Young, and they went four and

1562
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 3: five the last nine games. Twenty touchdowns, eight turnovers. Okay,

1563
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 3: since he was benched, and maybe the benching was a

1564
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 3: good thing. I don't know, but he certainly turned it

1565
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 3: around in the final three games. I look this up,

1566
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 3: Bryce Young, ten touchdowns, no turnovers. It's unbelievable. They got

1567
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 3: something going on now with Bryce Young the Carolina Panthers.

1568
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 3: I know the defense force the league. I know that,

1569
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 3: but I still think they got a shot here.

1570
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 4: Yeah they got a shot, but I'm not willing to

1571
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 4: go all in like you're willing to go in. But

1572
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 4: now they definitely have a shot to be one of

1573
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 4: those teams, this last team standing. But they're gonna have

1574
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 4: to upgrade some things. They still need more firepower, more weaponry.

1575
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 4: Like you can't beat a Bryce Young show just from

1576
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,839
Speaker 4: the pocket. That's not how he operates at his best.

1577
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 4: They got to balance out the sothfense with the playmakers

1578
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 4: so they can do it.

1579
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I dig it. I understand.

1580
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 3: Well. One of the reasons I'm saying that because the

1581
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 3: NFC South is really not that good of a division,

1582
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 3: so I think they got a chance to move up.

1583
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 3: That's a key too.

1584
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 2: I mean that is key.

1585
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 4: I mean, like everyone not being great certainly helps, but

1586
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,759
Speaker 4: injuries are a big part of everything, and they've been injured.

1587
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 4: It really beat up team. Can you win with a

1588
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 4: beat up team? Ter year after year we didn't even

1589
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 4: talk about Chritian McCaffrey and his injury, and all these

1590
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 4: guys are inch and over thirty, and at thirty, some

1591
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 4: guys can just their games will fall off a cliff.

1592
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 4: That's why I'm worried about the Niners. They have some

1593
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 4: older guys that are sett in prominent roles. George Kittle,

1594
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 4: You know, I mean you just have you just got

1595
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 4: to be careful because when it goes, it goes quickly.

1596
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, how old were you when you left the league

1597
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 3: twenty eight? Really was it going?

1598
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 2: Then?

1599
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 3: You feel you felt it going down a little bit?

1600
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 4: Then uh, yeah, you can feel it slipping. I wasn't

1601
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 4: am I Brian. But you look and it's different for

1602
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 4: the guys we were talking about the stars. I'm a journeyman,

1603
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 4: special contribute or whatever you are.

1604
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 2: But but but it's different.

1605
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 4: But the stars, you can see it because here's the

1606
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 4: difference between role players and stars and crucial moments. The

1607
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 4: stars is expected to deliver every time their number is

1608
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 4: called upon. Role Players don't don't get that pressure, nor

1609
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 4: that a claim. So there's a lot to being a

1610
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 4: star in this league. And their stars are older, and

1611
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 4: you worry can they get back to being healthy and

1612
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 4: being available when you have those big games.

1613
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 3: That's why Travis Kelsey should retire Starr and he's not

1614
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 3: getting it.

1615
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 4: I never tell them, man, if they're gonna give you

1616
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 4: fourteen million dollars and let you run around and do

1617
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 4: whatever like, you don't stop playing until they stop paying,

1618
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 4: and so you keep continue to keep it and then

1619
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 4: figure it out as you go.

1620
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 3: Okay, another surprise, the last one less surprise him. And

1621
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 3: you mentioned it that the coach is gonna change now

1622
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 3: because Mike Rabel's the new coach of the New England Patriots.

1623
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 3: There are four and thirteen, maybe the worst team in

1624
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 3: the league last year, and maybe that's why Girard Mao's gone.

1625
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 3: But I think they could turn it around. And I'm

1626
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 3: not saying a playoff team. I just think they'll be

1627
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 3: a surprise. I think they could be very close. So

1628
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 3: maybe even five hundred next year. And Drake may you

1629
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 3: a guy for North Carolina franchise quarterback in the making?

1630
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. He just needs time. He needs more seasoning.

1631
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 4: And the only way he can did he's got to

1632
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 4: go out there and go through the rough patches and

1633
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 4: everyone has to be patient and wait for it to develop.

1634
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 2: But the pop corn Coronals efencly gonna pop.

1635
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 3: So you like that, you think they can be five

1636
01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 3: hundred next year.

1637
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 4: It depends on how they're able to manipulate the draft.

1638
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 4: I mean it depends on.

1639
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,799
Speaker 3: All Right, are there any teams that we didn't discuss

1640
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 3: that you want to throw in the mix that may

1641
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 3: be a surprise next year?

1642
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,560
Speaker 4: Washing I would say the Washington Commanders, but everyone is

1643
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 4: gonna say that because of Jayden. I'm gonna say the

1644
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 4: Green Bay Packers because their draft and developed movement is real.

1645
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 4: You see the young players that are playing and contributing

1646
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 4: for them. They're playing it like Pro Bowl or like

1647
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 4: Pro Bowl or all pro levels. You love that part

1648
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,719
Speaker 4: of it. So, uh, the Commanders have won, the Packers,

1649
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 4: the youth and development movement, all those guys, the lines

1650
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 4: will be there. Then it's usual suspects. I think it's

1651
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 4: hard to predict which teams can come out of nowhere

1652
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,560
Speaker 4: until you see how the off season unfolds, like with

1653
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 4: free agency and cat movement and those things. But uh,

1654
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 4: there's always one thing.

1655
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 2: We know.

1656
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,600
Speaker 4: There's always a team that's in the bottom rung that

1657
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 4: shoots and vaults to the top of the thing.

1658
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 3: So we'll see there we go, Bucky Brooks, Andy Furman,

1659
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Ready, and I was

1660
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 3: time for a change. We call it yay or nay

1661
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 3: and it's freaking next. It's time for yay ornay. Yes,

1662
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 3: this is Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Ready were

1663
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 3: life at thet iraq dot Com studios. He's Bucky Brooks,

1664
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 3: I'm Andy Furman. Right now, let's play yay h nay.

1665
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 7: Okay, let's beget rock those brains, gentlemen, these stories needed us.

1666
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 2: I think we need a ruling on this yay or nay.

1667
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 3: Okay. Here's our main man, our executive producer, Patrick Sweeka.

1668
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 3: You're gonna take control here of yay r na. So

1669
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 3: get it going, my.

1670
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:40,679
Speaker 1: Man, all right, let's get it going.

1671
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 5: Bucky and Andy Well, I'm gonna start us off with

1672
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 5: our first yea or nae.

1673
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 3: So wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute,

1674
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 3: what happened with Bonna Barow? Ben?

1675
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 1: Oh? With bottom barrel?

1676
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 5: Ben? Well, I'm gonna tell you this. I was left

1677
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 5: out a little hanging, but I'm gonna say this. I

1678
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 5: think I already know who the winner is, just based

1679
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 5: off of just the collective last couple of months. Your

1680
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 5: winner and final results of bottom barrel betting is with

1681
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 5: a runaway Bucky Brooks.

1682
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: Congratulations.

1683
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 3: First of all, I want to congratulate Bucket, but I

1684
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 3: don't think it was a runaway he won. I mean, congratulations.

1685
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 3: Now we're not keeping score for the No, you're not. Okay,

1686
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 3: let's get.

1687
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 5: It going, all right, let's get it going. So, guys,

1688
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 5: we have the NBA All Star Game today. Yeah, we

1689
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 5: have another new format. So the twenty four All Stars

1690
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 5: are divided into three teams of eight.

1691
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 1: We have the Rising Stars.

1692
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 5: Championship team will comprise of another squad in a four

1693
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 5: team mini tournament. Winner of the semi finals will play

1694
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 5: in the final. First team to hit forty points is

1695
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 5: the winner of each game. So yay or nay?

1696
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: And he starts off.

1697
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 3: Let me tell you some Adam Silva. You need like

1698
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,759
Speaker 3: a computer to figure out how to play this. Leave

1699
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 3: the freaking game alone. You gotta be a genius to

1700
01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 3: figure this out. The NBA All Star Game. I know

1701
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 3: they scored over to a points one team last year.

1702
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 3: It's okay. I mean what was it last year? Something

1703
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 3: like one sixty three or one fifty seven and one

1704
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 3: fifty five. I don't know what it was, but still

1705
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 3: at all it's fun. If people want to see scoring.

1706
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 3: They have no idea how to figure this out, get

1707
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 3: it together, figure it out, because you to your league

1708
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 3: is sinking it is geez.

1709
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 4: I'm actually a yay on it, like I'm with it,

1710
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 4: Like just change it up.

1711
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.

1712
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 4: Like the game that you saw last year, two hundred

1713
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 4: points is not really whatever. It's not great entertainment for

1714
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 4: me anyway. But it's very similar to the Pro Bowl.

1715
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 4: No one is going to play as hard as you

1716
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 4: want them to play in the All Star Game. It's

1717
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 4: not a real game. It's an exhibition. No one wants

1718
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 4: to get hurt and those things. So they're all going

1719
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 4: to do their individual moves and do that. So I'd

1720
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 4: rather see them break it up like they're talking about

1721
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 4: doing and the pickup style.

1722
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 2: Let them play. Let's see if that shows.

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01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 4: And produces more competitive games and we see better energy

1724
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 4: and effort from the players.

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01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 5: All right, guys, well we're not going to move off

1726
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 5: the NBA All Star wee can white yet. Well so

1727
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 5: this week or this year, actually, there was no Steph

1728
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 5: Curry versus Sabrina Ionescu rematch that we had like last

1729
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 5: last year at the events. It was one of the highlights. Actually, Indy,

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01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 5: yay or nay, Bucky you get to go first this time.

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01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 2: Just repeat the thing, Just repeat the.

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Speaker 5: So that Sabrina versus Steph was like the highlight of

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01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 5: last year's All Star Break. But there was no none

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Speaker 5: of it this and this year yeay or nay on that.

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01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 4: I would I would love to see it because the

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01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 4: w NBA, NBA, like cn that cross competitiveess. I think

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01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 4: basketball is one of sports where gender it can be

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01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,480
Speaker 4: gender neutral when it comes to competing skills. So I'm disappointed,

1739
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 4: like so yes and no. For me, it's I'm I'm

1740
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 4: mad at when I seeing it.

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01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 3: I don't know whether they say yay or a. I

1742
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 3: guess yay that I'm disappointed right or ay that it's

1743
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 3: not happening. Whatever it is, I would have loved to

1744
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 3: see in it because I think it was exciting, something

1745
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 3: different than I think they missed out on that. So

1746
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 3: I miss it, I really do. All right?

1747
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 2: Next? All right?

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01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 1: Next one final?

1749
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,680
Speaker 5: Well, we got the fourth Nation's face Off promoted by

1750
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 5: the NHL has team USA, Canada, Sweden, and Finland competing.

1751
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 5: Yeah your nay, Andy, final, saying say nay.

1752
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 3: Stop with the in tournament games and me with any

1753
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 3: MLS has in NBA has. I don't want it. I

1754
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 3: don't want to see it.

1755
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'MU say you know too, I give it a no.

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01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 3: All right. Bucky has the best and more on Fox

1757
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Speaker 3: Sports Sunday next, Oh, the best of the newcomers. We'll

1758
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 3: get to that in just about a minute. Good morning, everybody.

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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports already. He's

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Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman, and we are broadcasting live

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Speaker 3: whatever it may be. He's the man, all one package together.

1767
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Speaker 3: His name is Bucky Brooks. Hello, Buck, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good? What's going on? Andy?

1769
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 3: Everything is good? Everything is wonderful. I mean there's no

1770
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 3: more football, but that's okay. You know what we could

1771
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 3: put our minds, hearts and souls and other things. I

1772
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 3: watched a little hockey last night, and basketball is here

1773
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 3: right now to stay. NBA All Star Game today, March Madness,

1774
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 3: and a couple of Sundays. We have the selection Sunday.

1775
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 3: So everything is good. But right now we're gonna get

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01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 3: our new executive producer, Patrick Sweeker. Patty, you got something

1777
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 3: for us, picked us. We were doing y olie list.

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01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 3: You got another ya o, nay?

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Speaker 1: I do, I do? I got one final one for you.

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Speaker 5: It's a it's a good one here, guys. So now

1781
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 5: let me go with this. So this guy, it's Matt

1782
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 5: Patricia here. He hasn't coached at the collegiate level since

1783
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 5: three and that's two thousand and three by the way,

1784
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 5: when he was a graduate assistant at Syracuse. But Ohio

1785
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:54,480
Speaker 5: State now has hired Matt Patricia as its new defensive coordinator.

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01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 5: Final yay or nay? Mister Andy Furman, start us off.

1787
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Speaker 5: What do you feel in that?

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Speaker 3: You know, I would say this, he knows the game

1789
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 3: of football, I'm sure, but I think perception is reality.

1790
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 3: I say nay, because I think he's got a negative perception,

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01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 3: especially when they made him an offensive core it which

1792
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 3: he knew nothing about, you know, in New England, because

1793
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 3: he's a defensive guy. He may very well be a

1794
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 3: great defensive coach. He may really do a great job

1795
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 3: at Ohio State. But I just think the perception is

1796
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 3: bad with this guy. For some reason. He's gotten some

1797
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 3: support from some former players, but the last time he

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01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 3: was working in college when he was a graduate assistant

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01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 3: in Syracuse, I don't know. I say a nay on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually gonna say yay on it.

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Speaker 4: And we've seen other college NFL coaches go down to

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01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 4: the collegiate level and has success. Look no further than

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01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 4: the team up north Wink Martindale goes down and has

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01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 4: success with Michigan. I think Matt Patricia certainly has to

1805
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 4: learn a different game because college football is vastly different

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01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 4: than the pros.

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01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:58,839
Speaker 2: But he's smart.

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Speaker 4: He hasn't really sounds He's going to do it in

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01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 4: a very detailed fashion. To me, those things tend to

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01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 4: lead to success. I expect them to be successful in

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01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 4: his run as a college coach.

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Speaker 3: Well, and there's a good chance he will be successful

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01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:14,679
Speaker 3: because Ohio State usually against the cream of the crop. Really,

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01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 3: and speaking of that, I'm going to ask you, this

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01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 3: is normally the time of the year coaches are running

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01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 3: around the country, maybe looking in living rooms with the

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01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 3: mom and dad looking at them and trying to get

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Speaker 3: their kid to come there. I'm not so certain that's

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01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 3: happening right now. I think right now the coaches are

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01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 3: running around to the boosters saying, get your check books ready,

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Speaker 3: I need you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's always some of that. Now they always

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Speaker 2: the boosters.

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Speaker 4: The money is different, and NIL has certainly changed to

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01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 4: pay for play model, has made it where you're not

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01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 4: running around recruiting, you're just kind of showing them the money.

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Speaker 4: It's not necessarily what we like, but that's what it is.

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Speaker 4: And that's that's the situation that we have right now.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're involved, I mean you're a graduate of North

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Speaker 3: Carolina and involved with the program with Bill Belichick's the

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01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 3: head coach right now. He's gotta learn what's happening right now.

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Speaker 3: For example, Bill goes to a kid in Florida, got great,

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01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 3: great high school footall in Florida. Goes down to the kid. Kid,

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Speaker 3: he says, I want you to come here. Kid says

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Speaker 3: to Belichick, I want three hundred thousand dollars. I mean,

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01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 3: that's not out of the realm of possibility, right, and

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01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 3: so Belichick says, I'll get back to you in a

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01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 3: day or so. All right, Belichick close a couple of boosters.

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01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 3: So I got the money, kid says, you know what,

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Speaker 3: you know, it sounds great, Coach. I really want to

1841
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 3: play for you. But you know Texas offered me five

1842
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 3: hundred thousand. So what does Belichick do? Say go or

1843
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 3: say hold on, let me call back see if I

1844
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 3: get you more. How does that work?

1845
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I'm sure you use in negotiation. It's

1846
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 4: no different than free agency. In those things, you have

1847
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 4: a bottom line number that you have in your mind.

1848
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 4: You start significantly lower than that, and once you get

1849
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 4: to the number, you make a decision on whether you

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01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 4: go above it or you just walk away. And many

1851
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 4: times you end up walking away and just being okay

1852
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 4: with it.

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Speaker 3: Now you're close to the situation, I mean, what close

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01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 3: than I am. How does it work? Does a kid

1855
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,839
Speaker 3: get paid after every game at the end of the season.

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01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 3: How does that work? And who pays him? Is it

1857
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 3: a check written by the booster or is it written

1858
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Speaker 3: by the university?

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Speaker 4: That I don't know, having not been involved in not

1860
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Speaker 4: having any kids that have been directly tied to it.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how they go about the payments and

1862
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 4: sign the contracts and all those things. Like to me,

1863
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 4: it's still kind of weird and foreign when you think

1864
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 4: about the amount of money that's being in exchange. But

1865
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 4: I would assume did they sign a contract and they

1866
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 4: have a payment schedule and all those other things.

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Speaker 2: You have to have a contract because.

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Speaker 4: How else can you promise to give someone this amount

1869
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 4: of money over this period without it being down on paper.

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Speaker 3: And it happened, I think Miami and Florida. One of

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01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 3: the players did not get his money, so that was

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01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 3: ugly too. I mean, it happened. He was promised the money,

1873
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 3: he never got the money. But you never ceased to

1874
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 3: amaze me as an NFL player, the writer, the scout,

1875
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 3: the coach, the TV personality, radio star, and with NFL

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Speaker 3: dot Com you picked the top position groups coming into

1877
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:01,600
Speaker 3: the NFL this coming season next year. How tough was

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01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 3: it for you to do something like that? And I

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01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 3: want to know, I'm curious, really, how long does something

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Speaker 3: like this take?

1881
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:06,640
Speaker 4: Was?

1882
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 3: Really and truly it looks like a lot of work.

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01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 2: I mean it is. I mean it's a lot of work.

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01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 4: Like you start working on you started looking at rosters

1885
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 4: and cap situations in those things and trying to put

1886
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 4: it together in terms of what you think this team is,

1887
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 4: how they can fill the gaps and do you anticipate

1888
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 4: them filling those knees. But I mean it's a bit

1889
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 4: of a guessing game with some analysis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, obviously you say it's worked, but I

1891
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 3: know for you it's a labor of love, so it's

1892
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 3: not really work. You enjoy doing it. But you started

1893
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 3: with the quarterback group, and that's okay, But you not

1894
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 3: only pit the quarterbacks. You rank them one to five

1895
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 3: in each position group as opposed to as what their

1896
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 3: strengths or how you think they'll do in the NFL.

1897
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 3: What are the one to five rankings mean?

1898
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 4: Just how I view them, like as who are the

1899
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 4: best prospects and so like, it's a you tally up

1900
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,640
Speaker 4: all the things to trace the leadership ability, how you

1901
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 4: expect them to play at the next level, giving their

1902
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 4: tool set, and you kind of put them together one

1903
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 4: to five.

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01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get into it right now, because you say

1905
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 3: this quarterback group lacks a lot of the pizazz unless

1906
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 3: you didn't have something like eight or nine quarterbacks drafted

1907
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:16,759
Speaker 3: in the first round.

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01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 4: I mean this year they ys six taken within the

1909
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 4: first twelve picks, with bow Nicks being the last one

1910
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 4: taken in the first round. This year, you don't have

1911
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 4: that same pizzazz, but I don't. It doesn't mean that

1912
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 4: it can't have the same effect on us. We saw

1913
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels not be the first one taken but have

1914
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 4: maybe the biggest impact. We saw both Knicks help his team.

1915
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 4: A lot of these guys are impactful. It's just a

1916
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 4: matter of creating opportunities for him going to the right

1917
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:44,719
Speaker 4: spot and then trusting that what you saw on tape

1918
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 4: is what they're going to deliver in the pros.

1919
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Speaker 3: Right And you've always told me this that you know

1920
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,440
Speaker 3: a guy like a Jackson Dart, the senior from Mississippi,

1921
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 3: he can become a great quarterback in the NFL if

1922
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 3: he goes to the right team with the right system.

1923
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 3: Is a possibility. So let's go. Let's start with number one.

1924
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 3: And obviously you said number one should do a stand this.

1925
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 3: What's his strength, what's the best team for him to

1926
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 3: go through. It looks like Tennessee will probably draft him,

1927
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,680
Speaker 3: but is that the right place for him to be successful?

1928
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 4: His strengths would be he is a polished pocket quarterback.

1929
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 4: From the pocket. He plays the game like he has

1930
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Speaker 4: been played for the last forty to fifty years in

1931
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,679
Speaker 4: the pocket. Rhythm, touch, timing, he has all those things.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't have what I would call it like elite

1933
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 4: arm talent, but it's good enough in the system to

1934
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 4: really dominate in a ball control system where they throw

1935
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 4: ten to fifteen yards. Used that box and window to operate.

1936
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,679
Speaker 4: He has a tendency to hold onto the ball waiting

1937
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 4: for the long play to develop because he's a big

1938
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 4: play hunter. If he curbs that, you're talking about a really,

1939
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 4: really good quarterback. And so the ranges of comparisons people

1940
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 4: will say is like from Gino Smith to Joe Burrow

1941
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 4: in terms of how.

1942
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 2: He plays where he fits.

1943
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 4: Look, he can play in Tennessee for Brian Callahan, he

1944
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:04,680
Speaker 4: would fit in a system in Cleveland under Kevin Stefanski.

1945
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 4: He would work with Brian Daboll. He can fit anywhere

1946
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 4: at the top of the board. He's a really good player.

1947
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,759
Speaker 4: He turned around two programs, Jackson State and Colorado.

1948
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 3: Okay, Jackson State though, I mean I get it, and

1949
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 3: he did. But let's talk about competition. How important is

1950
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 3: it for one to be successful at the next level

1951
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 3: playing against maybe subpark competition. And you know what comes

1952
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 3: to mind is what happened in Buffalo. Didn't he play?

1953
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 3: Didn't he played Wyoming, which is not the greatest competition,

1954
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 3: the greatest conference in the country. I mean, think about

1955
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:39,839
Speaker 3: that for a second. I mean, does it make a difference.

1956
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 2: I would say not all the way.

1957
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 4: I said, like, so the thing is now because there's

1958
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 4: so many transfers and all those things, Like players are

1959
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 4: gonna play at various levels.

1960
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 2: He went from Jackson State where he.

1961
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 4: Dominated as he should, to Colorado being a dominant player.

1962
01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 4: So if his success translates, it's not an issue.

1963
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 2: Cam Ward played at three schools.

1964
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 4: He played at Incarnate Word, played at Washington State, then

1965
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:09,839
Speaker 4: he played at Miami. Incarnate Word is a lesser division

1966
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 4: than Jackson State, but it hasn't been talked about, Like

1967
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 4: those are part of things, like a scout has to

1968
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 4: evaluate the player. Yet if they're playing against lesser competition,

1969
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 4: they should dominate. And then when they play against competition

1970
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 4: that is equal, if they dominated that, then you don't

1971
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 4: worry about the level of competition that they may have

1972
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 4: played in previously.

1973
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 3: You would know about this more than the average guy

1974
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 3: in the street. Was there any question mark or doubts

1975
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 3: of drafting Josh Allen when he came out Quesse? In fact,

1976
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 3: he did play at Wyoming.

1977
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 4: I mean it was a conversation like they talked about

1978
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 4: at Waoming. He played by himself and that's why his

1979
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 4: completion percentage might have been lower. That's why he ran

1980
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 4: around like a gun slink in those things because he

1981
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 4: didn't have competent or high quality players around him. That

1982
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:57,639
Speaker 4: was the narrative coming out. I would say that, look, man,

1983
01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 4: the thing that you worried about with Josh Allen Sam

1984
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 4: you worried about Lamar could he become a guy that

1985
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 4: could be refined from the pocket. And it took him

1986
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:08,639
Speaker 4: a while to become refined from the pocket. And even

1987
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 4: now he still is at his best when he's running

1988
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 4: in doing all those other things. So a lot of

1989
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 4: it is about fit in scheme, and the Buffalo Bills

1990
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 4: made it an intentional hire to make sure they put

1991
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 4: him in a scheme that fit him well.

1992
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying, and know the good news

1993
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 3: is as far as the five quarterbacks that you mentioned,

1994
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 3: they're all seniors. And we've talked about this agnauseum, the

1995
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:34,599
Speaker 3: fact that guys coming into the NFL with lack of

1996
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:39,719
Speaker 3: snaps on the college level have a tough time getting involved,

1997
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 3: like what Anthony Richardson perhaps in Indianapolis, have a tough

1998
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 3: time adapting to the National Football League. So you got

1999
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:48,880
Speaker 3: a guy like Sanders who's a senior, cam Ward's a senior,

2000
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 3: and kim Ward you say has great arm strength. I

2001
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 3: think cam Ward could be a dominant quarterback of the

2002
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 3: next level.

2003
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 2: With your thoughts on that, I mean, you could be

2004
01:31:58,960 --> 01:31:59,759
Speaker 2: a dominant quarterback.

2005
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 4: I mean he has talent and tools and those things,

2006
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 4: but he's also a bit of a gun slinger, and

2007
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:07,679
Speaker 4: the same things that have made him special at Ancarnate Word,

2008
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 4: Ancarnate Word, Washington State and Miami are the same things

2009
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 4: that could be as fatal flaws as a pro.

2010
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 2: This is an alpha dog personnelity. He's going to push

2011
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:17,799
Speaker 2: the envelope.

2012
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,719
Speaker 4: He has tremendous confidence and belief in his own talents

2013
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:22,759
Speaker 4: and sometimes it's gonna lead to turnovers.

2014
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:24,480
Speaker 2: And what you hope is to curb.

2015
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 4: Some of the bad decisions and I'll teach him how

2016
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 4: to manage the game and then insert him game and

2017
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 4: as a playmaker when he needs to. But he's super talented.

2018
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 4: I mean, he has all the things that you look for.

2019
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know much about Jackson Dark Form Mississippi.

2020
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 3: Jalen Milroe. I know he played for Alabama and Kyle

2021
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 3: McCord from Syracuse. So maybe you could fill me in

2022
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 3: on three, four and five. Those quarterbacks right there, What

2023
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 3: do we know about them? What do you think they'll

2024
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 3: do in the next level? Which then I'm gonna want

2025
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 3: to get to the running backs.

2026
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 4: So when you think about the next guy, so Jackson Dart,

2027
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 4: cal McCord, Jaalen Milroe like three talented guys. Jackson Dart

2028
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 4: system player played at old Mess. You worry about the

2029
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 4: system translating to success at the next level, has the

2030
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 4: tools and the talent to get it done. Jalen Millroe

2031
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 4: is the physical specimen of the group.

2032
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:21,120
Speaker 2: He's big, fast, physical, strong arm. He is a dynamic runner.

2033
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 4: He punishes very similar to the way Jalen Hurts runs

2034
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,600
Speaker 4: at the next level, but not nearly as polished or

2035
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:28,759
Speaker 4: as fundamental from the pocket.

2036
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 2: Has to work on that part of his game, but

2037
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 2: he is a really, really good deep ball thrower as well.

2038
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 4: Cal McCord is kind of the wild card of the

2039
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 4: group because transfer from Ohio State goes to Syracuse but

2040
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 4: lights it up at Syracuse. Some people will always remember

2041
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 4: the bad and what they saw from cal McCord at

2042
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:47,600
Speaker 4: Ohio State. I'll choose to look at the guy to

2043
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 4: show tremendous growth at Syracuse who is kind of coming

2044
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:55,679
Speaker 4: to his own has shown some big playmox and leadership ability.

2045
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 4: But he's someone who's intriguing. I think he's a top

2046
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 4: one hundred player. I think he doesn't get out the

2047
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 4: third round.

2048
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 3: All right, here, we just saying you mentioned Ohio State.

2049
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 3: You got five running backs listed one through five. Two

2050
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 3: of the five are in fact from Ohio State. I

2051
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 3: mean that's amazing to me. I mean, how did that

2052
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:19,679
Speaker 3: come about? You got the trevi on Anderson, Henderson and Judkins,

2053
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 3: Cushawn Jenkinsinshawn.

2054
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 4: Jenkins because Ohio State was pained. People say they operated

2055
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:28,600
Speaker 4: with a twenty million dollars payroll. I mean, if you

2056
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 4: do that, you can get the best of the best,

2057
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 4: and they were able to get some of the best

2058
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:33,719
Speaker 4: of the best players to come up there and play

2059
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:36,440
Speaker 4: for him. Now it's about how good are you individually?

2060
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 4: Which one do you separate? Because they split the load

2061
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 4: and disc many carrier, you don't really know which one

2062
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 4: can separate himself. And you hope in workouts, in those

2063
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 4: things you can figure out which one has the best

2064
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 4: chance to stand it out as a pro.

2065
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 3: You know, and you bring up something where I know,

2066
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:51,920
Speaker 3: you say, got a twenty million dollars payroll, whatever it

2067
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 3: may be, and the kid's got to go there. He

2068
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 3: sees the money, he goes crazy. But if you're a runner,

2069
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:59,360
Speaker 3: if you're an outstanding runner, a five star runner in

2070
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 3: high school, when you prefer going through a school that

2071
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 3: runs the football, like a school like Iowa. You know,

2072
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 3: they run the football and Caleb Johnson's on your list

2073
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 3: as a number three running back. I mean that's what

2074
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:12,679
Speaker 3: I was. If you're a linebacker, there's a good chance

2075
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 3: you may want to kind of look at maybe not

2076
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 3: go there, but at least look at Penn State. They're

2077
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 3: known as linebacker, you correct. I mean, so if you

2078
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 3: are running back, you would probably want to go through

2079
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 3: a school that runs the football and that really airs

2080
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 3: it out.

2081
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 4: Maybe and maybe you want to go air it out

2082
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:30,680
Speaker 4: because you want to learn the passing game because the

2083
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 4: play running back and the pros, you got to be

2084
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:36,719
Speaker 4: really good at both areas, running in, passing, running routes,

2085
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 4: and the more you can do the better. It sets

2086
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 4: you up for success as a workhorse running back. So

2087
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:44,799
Speaker 4: maybe you want to challenge yourself in that regard. Also,

2088
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:47,639
Speaker 4: some of these guys are already thinking about the number

2089
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 4: of carries that they have, because sometimes that can work

2090
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 4: against you when it comes time to the pros. We

2091
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 4: talk about how many miles are on the edometer? How

2092
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 4: many carries did he have over the course of a

2093
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 4: three or four year career in college?

2094
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 2: Dinificant?

2095
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 4: You wonder when does the other shoe drop? How long

2096
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 4: can he play at a high level before father time

2097
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 4: kicks in and slows all of it down.

2098
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,719
Speaker 3: Well, and that brings me to this question of because

2099
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 3: you're talking about Ashton jent D that you're running back,

2100
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 3: the junior running back up Boise State. I mean, he

2101
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:19,639
Speaker 3: did a lot of running. You know. Again, I'll say,

2102
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 3: maybe the competition was not that tough against the Boise State,

2103
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:24,720
Speaker 3: But I will tell you this much, I watched him

2104
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 3: play on TV several times. To me, he looks like

2105
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 3: a Derek Henry clone. Really, you can't bring the guy down.

2106
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 3: He may be one of the tough for guys to tackle.

2107
01:36:34,479 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 2: He's a tough guy.

2108
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 4: He's not quite as big as Derrick Henry's probably more

2109
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:40,599
Speaker 4: like Josh Jacobs size and a very similar playing style,

2110
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 4: but rough rugged has great speed and explosiveness to the

2111
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 4: second level. Caster ball out of the backfield in the

2112
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:49,600
Speaker 4: screen game is a problem if he gets one on

2113
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:54,160
Speaker 4: one opportunities in space. He is someone that is just

2114
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 4: kind of the reliable, dependable playmaker that you can count on.

2115
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 4: He's been compared to I told you Josh Jacob. Some

2116
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:04,559
Speaker 4: people have said, like M Smith, I would say what

2117
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 4: he is is whatever he needs to be on that

2118
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 4: given day. He is a true workhorse, I meaning he

2119
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 4: can be the monster that's testing it every time where

2120
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 4: he can be out in space making things happen.

2121
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 3: There was a time when running backs are drafted in

2122
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 3: the first round. Didn't happen last year Sa Kwon Barkley

2123
01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:21,920
Speaker 3: was the first round that know doub about that. Well,

2124
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:25,680
Speaker 3: we see running backs now maybe taken perhaps maybe Well,

2125
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 3: I guess this year we'll be in the first round.

2126
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 3: Because the quarterback situation is not as you say, It's

2127
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:32,719
Speaker 3: not a Pizazz group, so we may see it running

2128
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 3: back drafted. This kid genty may be drafted in the

2129
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 3: first round because the use of the running back has

2130
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 3: come back in the vogue again.

2131
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say regardssive like the use of the

2132
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 4: running back. I would say his talent Marrison being a

2133
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 4: top ten pick. Will he get picked the top ten?

2134
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:51,760
Speaker 4: Probably doubtful, But he's that kind of player. He is

2135
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 4: special with the ball in his hands. He has tremendous

2136
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 4: balance and body control, great vision, gets to the cutback

2137
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 4: lamp every time.

2138
01:37:58,479 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 2: He's terrific.

2139
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,679
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna say this, Mario Hampton from North Carolina

2140
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 4: is also good and he should.

2141
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 3: Bring North Carolina guy in.

2142
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:09,600
Speaker 4: I knew he like everyone should should pay attention to

2143
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 4: him because he has the physicality to recognis the game,

2144
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 4: all of that to be a special playmaker. Like he

2145
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 4: is right there not saying their net connect, but he

2146
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 4: certainly isn't on the screen. He's he's in the conversation

2147
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 4: in terms of being one of the top players in

2148
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 4: the draft.

2149
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Speaker 3: What's his size?

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01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:30,839
Speaker 2: You know, I think he's five eleven two fifteen to twenty.

2151
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 3: Is he a senior?

2152
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 2: It might be a junior junior.

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01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:38,559
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, there you go. So as you got

2154
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 3: for enough, let's do a couple of wide receivers here, okay,

2155
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:44,560
Speaker 3: because basically people love the stars. They're running back the

2156
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 3: receivers in the quarterback right. So we got a kid

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Speaker 3: from Arizona, Missouri, another Ohio state, and Mississippi. Okay, and

2158
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 3: then I think he got a Texas kid, Isaiah Bond

2159
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:58,719
Speaker 3: from Texas. Give me, give me the best wide receiver

2160
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 3: in your group? And why who is he?

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01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 2: T Mac? Yeah?

2162
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 4: T mac is what they call him is Tedritoria McMillan

2163
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:11,680
Speaker 4: from Arizona. This dude is special. He's long, he was

2164
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 4: a big time volleyball player in high school.

2165
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 2: He's like six three.

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01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 4: Six ' four, smooth athlete, great leaper jump ball specialists,

2167
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 4: can dominate down the boundary and in the red zone.

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01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,320
Speaker 4: He is what I would call it a classic number

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01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 4: one receiver in terms of being that. Now, this wide

2170
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:32,719
Speaker 4: receiver class is different because they don't have those sure

2171
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 4: for I can't miss this like others.

2172
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 2: But he is he is nice.

2173
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 4: Luther Burden is a catch and run specialist, meaning he

2174
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:42,680
Speaker 4: is a guy that is ideally suited to play in

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01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 4: the slot.

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01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 2: You want to get this guy the ball in a

2177
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:46,680
Speaker 2: variety of ways.

2178
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 4: Crossing routes, option routes you wanted to touch it on, FLA,

2179
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 4: sweeps and reverses. His best traits all happen after the

2180
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 4: ball is in his hands. He is great, exceptional with

2181
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 4: the ball in this in space, he makes it nightmares

2182
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 4: to get to the ground. And then Amika Abuka from

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01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 4: Ohio State is just another long line of Buckeyes that

2184
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:15,599
Speaker 4: goes to the pros. Body beautiful, just smooth, rhythmic. Has

2185
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:17,840
Speaker 4: all those things been well schooled and well talked.

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01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 2: Brian Hartline and those guys do a great job. You

2187
01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 2: have to hear it. Ohio State.

2188
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 4: He's a guy that's gonna be a day one starter.

2189
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:25,680
Speaker 4: I mean he's gonna be plug and play, ready to go.

2190
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 4: He's gonna do his job and he's gonna do it

2191
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 4: with little fanfare.

2192
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Speaker 3: You got Trey Harris and Trey Harris from Mississippi.

2193
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:35,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, Trey Harris from Old miss Like just a really

2194
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:38,920
Speaker 4: good player can make it happen in space, like you'll

2195
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:42,200
Speaker 4: see the clips of him making terrific catches, great in

2196
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:44,479
Speaker 4: the open field with vision. And then Isaiah Bond is

2197
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 4: more so your possession receiver, chain mover consistently productive, just

2198
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 4: moves it down the field. Steve Sarkisian does a really

2199
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:57,360
Speaker 4: good job of creating one on one opportunities for guys,

2200
01:40:57,360 --> 01:40:58,639
Speaker 4: and he wins his one on ones.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny you talk about ball controlling what

2202
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:04,360
Speaker 3: they do after the catch, but I didn't hear you

2203
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 3: use the term speed in any one of them. I mean,

2204
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 3: really and truly, speed's important, but maybe it's not as

2205
01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:11,760
Speaker 3: important as I think it is as being a receiver, right.

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01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:16,919
Speaker 4: I mean, it's important, but it's not the most important

2207
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:19,679
Speaker 4: part of it. It's more how they play, the tempo

2208
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:22,759
Speaker 4: at which they play at, how quickly they get.

2209
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Speaker 2: In and out of routes.

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Speaker 4: How do they impact the game with the ball in

2211
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 4: their hands. Are they a guy that can take flas

2212
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 4: sweeps and do the Deebo Samuel type thing, or they

2213
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 4: strictly a wide receivers. You'll notice is the guys that

2214
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 4: typically run really fast as the combine rarely have a

2215
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 4: great impact as a wide receiver pros because there's so

2216
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 4: much skill that's involved at it neutralizeses some of the

2217
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 4: speed factor in the mix.

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Speaker 3: I'll be watching that. Thank you so much. Thank you

2219
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Speaker 3: for all the work you do on that. It's really great.

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Speaker 3: sixty three sixty nine. The Blame Game at the end

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Speaker 3: of this album. Right now, we got some bad news.

2230
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Speaker 3: We got some bad news for these teams. That's next,

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Speaker 3: about a minute. And of course we have the Blame

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four in the surprise of the NFL. The

2245
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:03,560
Speaker 3: Kings won fourteen games, the Commander's made the conference championship

2246
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 3: game for the first time, and maybe they overachieved. I

2247
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:08,679
Speaker 3: don't know, but we got a list here, at least

2248
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:11,840
Speaker 3: I do. Maybe you disagree. I don't know, but these

2249
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 3: teams may be due for a fall coming next year.

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Speaker 3: I know it's eerly. I know you got to wait

2251
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 3: for free agency in the draft, but I got a

2252
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:22,679
Speaker 3: couple of teams that got maybe three four five teams

2253
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,680
Speaker 3: that may be looking for a fall. And look the

2254
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:28,559
Speaker 3: Vikings at fourteen and three with the biggest surprise last year.

2255
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 3: I think they're primeing for a dropoff. Okay, they need

2256
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 3: to figure out the quarterback situation. Sam Donald's a free agent.

2257
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:37,200
Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy. He's winning in the wings as the first

2258
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:39,920
Speaker 3: round pick from a year ago, he was hurt. Look

2259
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 3: the Vikings probably going McCarthy. Look could he win fourteen games.

2260
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:45,760
Speaker 3: I don't know coming off with Tom Maniscus, So I

2261
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 3: think the Vikings will do for a little bit of

2262
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:48,439
Speaker 3: a falloff next year.

2263
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 2: I mean, like the market correction could come.

2264
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:54,960
Speaker 4: It depends on who the quarterback is with JJ or

2265
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:58,120
Speaker 4: someone else, Like how quick he can koc.

2266
01:43:57,920 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 2: Get them up to speed. He did a really good

2267
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 2: job with Sam Donald.

2268
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 4: Sam Donald don't want to say he had twelve games

2269
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 4: with a passer ring over one hundred, played the best

2270
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 4: football of his career. Can they do that same thing

2271
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 4: and repeated with somebody else? Doesn't mean you know the question.

2272
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:14,200
Speaker 4: But that's how the Dominos are will fall ill.

2273
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 3: They got a great coach, and look, they got some

2274
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:20,880
Speaker 3: good talent on that Minnesota team. But here's the problem

2275
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 3: that I have over there. That NFL North is strong,

2276
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 3: got some strong maybe the best conference in football. So

2277
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 3: I think they'll be due for another fall off. I

2278
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 3: really do. So we'll see Washington Commanders. I mean, you're

2279
01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 3: gonna laugh when I said this. They were twelve and five.

2280
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 3: You're one of the Jayden Daniels was better than anything

2281
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 3: than anybody anywhere anticipated with the Commanders. They won twelve

2282
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 3: games in his first year. The only team to beat

2283
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl champion of Philadelphia Eagles since October began.

2284
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 3: Then they won the consecutive playoff games on the road,

2285
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:52,240
Speaker 3: they reached the NFC Championship game. Look, they could be

2286
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:55,080
Speaker 3: a title contender, and I don't know. They still have

2287
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:57,559
Speaker 3: to play Eagles twice. They got to play the Detroit

2288
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:00,160
Speaker 3: Lions on the schedule. They gotta play five teams that

2289
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 3: won double digit games on the road next year. So

2290
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 3: even if Daniels plays well again, I think it's pretty

2291
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 3: hard to win twelve games and go to the conference

2292
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 3: championship game. That's all I'm saying.

2293
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean it looked.

2294
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 4: It's definitely tougher because where they crept up on people

2295
01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:20,400
Speaker 4: this year, they won't get everyone's full attention, and that'll

2296
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:23,360
Speaker 4: lead to tighter games, more intense games, and they have

2297
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:25,759
Speaker 4: to be ready to deal with all comers.

2298
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:27,759
Speaker 2: I have a feeling that dan Quinn.

2299
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 4: Having ready, He loves kind of leaning into the military stuff,

2300
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 4: and he'll have them ready to go. But from a

2301
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 4: talent perspective, they have ninety one million dollars in cap

2302
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 4: space to improve their team.

2303
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 2: I expect them to improve and improve significantly.

2304
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 3: All Right, I hate putting this team on the list

2305
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 3: that's going to look like they're gonna have a little

2306
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 3: bit of a fall off. The Pittsburgh steals with ten

2307
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 3: and seventy. And why I say that, I hate betting

2308
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 3: against Mike Tomlin. This guy's never had a losing year,

2309
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 3: and everybody says, ah, you know they're not going to

2310
01:45:57,160 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 3: do anything this year. It's funny. Steelers were one of

2311
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 3: the worst teams in the league to close out the season.

2312
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 3: Last year, they did make the playoffs. I just don't

2313
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 3: feel good about them. They were the first ten wing

2314
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 3: with the first team to win ten games in the

2315
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:15,680
Speaker 3: NFL and NFL history to end the season on a

2316
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 3: losing streak of five plus games, which includes that wildcard

2317
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 3: playoff loss to the Baltimore Ravens. I just I got

2318
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 3: a hard time. I just don't know what they could do.

2319
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 3: They averaged fourteen points a game and they allowed twenty

2320
01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:30,640
Speaker 3: four points a game over their last five games. They

2321
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 3: got some major problems there, and I don't know whether

2322
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 3: it's going to be Russell Wilson in the center or

2323
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 3: justin fields. They just they don't have a big time

2324
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:40,680
Speaker 3: answer a quarterback. And that's the key.

2325
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:46,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, when I look at the Steelers, I do wonder

2326
01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 4: about the quarterback situation. But they can go with Russell,

2327
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:52,640
Speaker 4: they can go with justin Fields, or maybe there's X

2328
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:56,080
Speaker 4: quarterback behind door number three that they can look to.

2329
01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 2: I would say that.

2330
01:46:57,080 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 4: The problem that they have is without a quarterback really

2331
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:02,559
Speaker 4: get to what they want to be on offense, which

2332
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:05,400
Speaker 4: is a run first team that takes shots down the

2333
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 4: field in the passing game because of George Pickens and others.

2334
01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 2: That's it.

2335
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:12,519
Speaker 4: They were surprised this year the fact that they got

2336
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 4: the ten wins. They were in the mix and in

2337
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 4: the conversation up until the last week. That's the testament

2338
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:22,880
Speaker 4: to his coach. But at some point, just effort without

2339
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 4: execution means nothing. Like the efforts are great that they're

2340
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 4: able to get into the postseason, but they're not executing

2341
01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:28,920
Speaker 4: in the postseason.

2342
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:31,719
Speaker 2: At some points people aren't ask.

2343
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 4: And say, hey, you got to get over the hump,

2344
01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 4: because right now it has almost like a Marvin Lewis

2345
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 4: feel to it, despite what we say about both those guys,

2346
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:40,840
Speaker 4: like it has that feel to it where you go

2347
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:42,799
Speaker 4: to the postseason, Lobbich don't get it done.

2348
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:46,080
Speaker 3: I will say this, and I threw this out earlier today.

2349
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 3: I think that makes Aaron Rodgers a possibility going to

2350
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:53,200
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh or an interest for Aaron Rodgers. Looks the rumor

2351
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:55,759
Speaker 3: came out with the Trevor Lawrence thing, and that's killed

2352
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:58,120
Speaker 3: and you killed and everybody else killed it. But I

2353
01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:01,280
Speaker 3: still think Aaron Rodgers is a possibility. But again, I

2354
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 3: don't think Mike Tomlin wants to put up with the

2355
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 3: garbage they off the field, garbage that he has being

2356
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:09,640
Speaker 3: on a Pat McAfee show and talking about stuff internally,

2357
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 3: so I think to control the guy as the problem quarterbacking,

2358
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,240
Speaker 3: he's got it. I mean, he played well down the

2359
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:19,519
Speaker 3: stretch Aaron Rodgers did on a bad team. So there

2360
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:22,040
Speaker 3: is I think a possibility. The light is still the

2361
01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:24,760
Speaker 3: door is still open that I think Aaron Rodgers could

2362
01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:26,800
Speaker 3: play quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers next year.

2363
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:32,760
Speaker 4: Yeah you're optimistic on that stuff. Yeah, I'm not as

2364
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 4: optimistic when it comes to that, but I get it

2365
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 4: that he can go there. I just think he wrecks

2366
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 4: the locker room. I think he just would wreck the lork.

2367
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 4: I think that would be hard to manage and police internally.

2368
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:46,720
Speaker 4: I just don't see that as a great fit for

2369
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:47,479
Speaker 4: both parties.

2370
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 3: All right, what you're saying, But I think Pittsburgh needs

2371
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:54,240
Speaker 3: a quarterback and we both agree on that. Let's move

2372
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 3: over now to Denver and the Denver Broncos with ten

2373
01:48:57,200 --> 01:48:58,640
Speaker 3: and seven last year, I got to give him a

2374
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 3: lot of credit a bon Nix developing that rookie quarterback

2375
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 3: bon Nix. I think they did well, and I don't

2376
01:49:05,240 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 3: know if they're gonna win ten games again next year.

2377
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 3: But they had a tremendous, tremendous pass rush. They had

2378
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:15,000
Speaker 3: like five players who had five plus sacks last year,

2379
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:17,719
Speaker 3: you know, and they finished with something like sixty sixty

2380
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:20,320
Speaker 3: three sacks. I don't see that happening again next year.

2381
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 3: I mean sometimes you got like on the Bengals, they

2382
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:25,160
Speaker 3: had Trey Hendrickson, who led the league in sacks. I

2383
01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:27,439
Speaker 3: don't see him leaving the league sacks next year. Maybe

2384
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 3: I'm crazy. I think it's a very hard thing to do.

2385
01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:32,599
Speaker 3: Repeating anything is very hard to do. Except sometimes if

2386
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 3: you have a bad meal, you can repeat that in

2387
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:36,559
Speaker 3: the toilet. That's what you can repeat. Other than that,

2388
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:37,759
Speaker 3: it's hard to repeat things.

2389
01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 2: It is hard to repeat things.

2390
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:43,880
Speaker 4: And you're right when it comes to it, and what

2391
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 4: you do you just bank on they continue to put

2392
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:48,000
Speaker 4: into work. I mean, you talk with all those other

2393
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 4: guys that have tried to do it and tried to

2394
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:50,640
Speaker 4: repeat it.

2395
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:51,719
Speaker 2: Whatever is hard.

2396
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:53,559
Speaker 4: But what you want is the same kind of production,

2397
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:56,559
Speaker 4: not the same production, the same impact. Production might not

2398
01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 4: be there, but the impact can be the same because

2399
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 4: if you're able to impact the game positively, then you

2400
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:06,080
Speaker 4: can get away with not having the same production. But yeah,

2401
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 4: there's a target on your back when you're a leader

2402
01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:09,920
Speaker 4: like that, and you have to be able to step

2403
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:11,840
Speaker 4: up in rise de occasion. That's why we talked about

2404
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:15,280
Speaker 4: the levels, different levels of superstardom and National Football League.

2405
01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 3: And Sean Payne did a great job, and there's no

2406
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:18,679
Speaker 3: doubt in my mind. I don't think he got enough

2407
01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 3: credit on that, but he did a heck of a

2408
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 3: job there. But look at the Broncos. I look at

2409
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 3: their schedule next year. They played Houston Texans, they played

2410
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 3: the Eagles, and they played the Commanders. All those games

2411
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:30,519
Speaker 3: are on the road. They also play Kansas City and

2412
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:33,320
Speaker 3: the Chargers because they're in the division. That's tough. I

2413
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:35,320
Speaker 3: mean it's tough to come out of that winning ten games.

2414
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying, we'll see ye.

2415
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2416
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 4: I mean they're gonna fall off there, fall off dramatically.

2417
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 4: It's hard to sustain that level of run. They need

2418
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:49,639
Speaker 4: to kind of step back in reset. And I think

2419
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 4: with their reset comes of reworking, a retooling of who

2420
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:56,720
Speaker 4: they are offensively, and not so much on defense, but.

2421
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:57,679
Speaker 2: On offense for sure.

2422
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:02,160
Speaker 4: Freshen it up, get some playmakers in there and see

2423
01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:03,719
Speaker 4: if they can get kind of back on track.

2424
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 3: And Kansas City I should have put on that list,

2425
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 3: put the Indianapolis Colts in there, because I think the

2426
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:12,800
Speaker 3: Coats right now have no idea what they're doing. They

2427
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:17,080
Speaker 3: benched Anthony Richardson, which is second season. They're looking at

2428
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:20,840
Speaker 3: Joe Flock always forty years old. I I just think

2429
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:23,599
Speaker 3: they have no direction. I mean they fired their defensive

2430
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:26,920
Speaker 3: coordinator and they hired lou Anarumo. I don't know if

2431
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:28,920
Speaker 3: Gus Bradley did a good job or a bad job.

2432
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 3: It was just a bad team. You know, they got

2433
01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 3: some talent, but they got to do better. They really can.

2434
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:37,519
Speaker 3: They had a lot of one score games last year.

2435
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 3: They played in thirteen one score games. That tells me

2436
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 3: they can't finish. That was that the old Charges before

2437
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:46,280
Speaker 3: Harbaugh got there, lost a lot of those games down

2438
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:48,880
Speaker 3: the stretch, one score games. I don't know what that means.

2439
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:50,840
Speaker 3: That means is that a bad culture. I don't know.

2440
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 3: You just can't get it done down the stretch. But

2441
01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:55,200
Speaker 3: you got to get an improving Anthony Richardson. I don't

2442
01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:55,880
Speaker 3: know if they could do it.

2443
01:51:57,280 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 2: Well.

2444
01:51:57,600 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 4: We can talk about culture, and I know that we're

2445
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 4: you're not a fan of, but I would say coach

2446
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:02,800
Speaker 4: and Indy came up.

2447
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 2: I saw Pat McAfee go toe to.

2448
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 4: Toe with some of their players and fans about what

2449
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:09,960
Speaker 4: he perceived to be a bad culture. And look, man,

2450
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:12,640
Speaker 4: there are people that are saying, how many finds the

2451
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:16,519
Speaker 4: young quarterback may have received for missing late, for being

2452
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:20,800
Speaker 4: laid and missing certain obligations that he had to fulfill,

2453
01:52:21,240 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 4: meaning rehab or training sessions or those things. And so

2454
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:26,559
Speaker 4: if you have that and it gets to the number

2455
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:29,559
Speaker 4: where it's well over fifty k or anything like that, well,

2456
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:31,479
Speaker 4: someone hasn't pulled him to decide to.

2457
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:33,120
Speaker 2: Be like, hey man, this is how we operate here.

2458
01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 4: So whenever we point to losing programs, there's something that's

2459
01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 4: wrong with the culture and the play of the player

2460
01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:44,680
Speaker 4: of communication and standards. That's what you're seeing and it

2461
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 4: plays out in real time.

2462
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 3: All right, Well, we're talking about teams that may have

2463
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 3: a fall off next year. We mentioned the Vikings, Commander, Steelers, Broncos,

2464
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 3: and Colts. We also kind of hinted the Kansas City

2465
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:56,920
Speaker 3: they have a bit of a fall off perhaps. What

2466
01:52:57,000 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 3: about the Philadelphia Eagles? Did they have like that super

2467
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 3: bold days after you win the Super Bowl? Is there

2468
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:04,720
Speaker 3: a like do you want to come back and do

2469
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:07,280
Speaker 3: it again? Or you know, we've been there, done that?

2470
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 3: Where the Kings of the Hill, I mean, how does

2471
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:12,639
Speaker 3: that work? Well? You see a fall off in Philadelphia? Perhaps?

2472
01:53:14,200 --> 01:53:15,680
Speaker 4: No, I don't think you see them fall up to

2473
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:19,360
Speaker 4: too talented, too good, and they have a good sense

2474
01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 4: of how everyone is going to attack them going forward.

2475
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 4: They are going to continue to build and climb and

2476
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:32,040
Speaker 4: grow and invest in the trench Warriors.

2477
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 2: And those things.

2478
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:34,680
Speaker 4: But they'll lose some people and those people that have

2479
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:38,519
Speaker 4: been red shirting and developing in the shadows never have

2480
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:39,719
Speaker 4: an opportunity to play.

2481
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:42,200
Speaker 2: And if they did it right, they won't skip a beat.

2482
01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 2: So we'll see early how.

2483
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:46,639
Speaker 4: Good, how well they've done when it comes to putting,

2484
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:48,120
Speaker 4: their guys in position to make place.

2485
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 3: Okay, and speaking of the Eagles, Okay, that had the

2486
01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:54,639
Speaker 3: big Super Bowl parade the other day, Some like two

2487
01:53:54,640 --> 01:53:58,479
Speaker 3: million people were there. The executive vice president general manager

2488
01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:00,599
Speaker 3: of the Eagles, Howie Roseman, got hit what have beer can?

2489
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:03,760
Speaker 3: And two people got shot? I mean, and this is

2490
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:06,720
Speaker 3: the second year in a row people have been shot

2491
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 3: at Super Bowl parades. Why. I don't know. I think eventually,

2492
01:54:11,320 --> 01:54:14,960
Speaker 3: because of these screwballs, those things will be banned. I

2493
01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:18,240
Speaker 3: really think it's gonna happen. I mean, Kansas City last

2494
01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:21,160
Speaker 3: year a couple of people got shot. This year, a

2495
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 3: guy got into an argument. I understand. I read the report,

2496
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:27,840
Speaker 3: and he was punching and shoving, and he took out

2497
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 3: a gun and shot two women. I mean, why, tell me, why?

2498
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:34,840
Speaker 3: Why does this happen? Bucky Brooks? Why? It's ugly? It's ugly?

2499
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:36,280
Speaker 3: Get it?

2500
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, I don't know. It's such a weird phenomenon.

2501
01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 2: I don't know why people look to mess up other

2502
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:43,680
Speaker 2: people's joy. It's problematic.

2503
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 4: But look, man, the Eagles may have another parade, or

2504
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 4: they may have another ceremony because the team that is

2505
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:53,360
Speaker 4: set to come back. It's an even better version of

2506
01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 4: the team that we saw in Super Bowl fifty nine,

2507
01:54:56,320 --> 01:54:58,080
Speaker 4: Like they're gonna be good as a matter?

2508
01:54:58,120 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 2: Can they say focused?

2509
01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 4: The disease of me can creep in where everyone feels

2510
01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 4: like they're more responsible for the success of the team

2511
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:07,960
Speaker 4: than the others, and so EGO can play a part

2512
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:09,720
Speaker 4: in them not being able to maximize. But otherwise they

2513
01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 4: should be in the mix.

2514
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 3: All right, sounds good to me. He's Bucket Brooks and

2515
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 3: Andy Furman. It's Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Buts Radio,

2516
01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:19,240
Speaker 3: and it's now time to point fingers. The blame game

2517
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 3: is freaking next. All right, the blame game coming right up.

2518
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:24,440
Speaker 3: It's about eleven minutes before the top of the hour.

2519
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:27,080
Speaker 3: He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Ferman. We are Fox Sports

2520
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:29,200
Speaker 3: Sunday on Fox Bots ready, and we'll live from the

2521
01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 3: Ti rock dot Com studios. And by the way, Brian No,

2522
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 3: Jeff Schwartz, Bill Krachenberger will join you right here at

2523
01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 3: the top of the album. Right now, it is time

2524
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 3: for the blame game.

2525
01:55:39,400 --> 01:55:40,320
Speaker 2: You ruin me.

2526
01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 3: It's all your fault, it's your fault.

2527
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 1: What is all your fault?

2528
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:52,680
Speaker 7: Maybe it's everyone's fault. See the liar that's why there's

2529
01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:53,440
Speaker 7: the blame game.

2530
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:56,640
Speaker 3: The blame game. Let's figure out who to blame. Yeah,

2531
01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 3: he's a liar, all right, Patty Sweet to take care

2532
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 3: of the blame game for us.

2533
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 5: Well yet, all right, well I'm not a liar, so

2534
01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 5: I'd start us out here. While exiting the floor, ucon

2535
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 5: basketball coach Dan Hurley reminded the Creighton fans of his

2536
01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:13,200
Speaker 5: two championship rings after a seventy to sixty six win

2537
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:14,400
Speaker 5: over the Blue Jays.

2538
01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:17,320
Speaker 1: A bragging move on the road. Was it called for?

2539
01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:18,560
Speaker 1: Who do you blame?

2540
01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:21,160
Speaker 3: Many? You know what I want to say. He's a

2541
01:56:21,160 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 3: great coach. Dan Hurley is the greatest. He really is.

2542
01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:25,640
Speaker 3: He comes from a great line of coaches. His daddy

2543
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:27,440
Speaker 3: was a great coach in high school in New Jersey.

2544
01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:30,640
Speaker 3: But you gotta control yourself, and maybe the athletic director

2545
01:56:30,760 --> 01:56:33,400
Speaker 3: or the school president got to control them because it's

2546
01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:35,600
Speaker 3: not a good look. It is not a good look.

2547
01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:39,320
Speaker 3: I blame the school for not putting the reins on

2548
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:40,000
Speaker 3: Dan Hurley.

2549
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 1: All right, all right, we'll leave the school.

2550
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:45,040
Speaker 2: I will say this.

2551
01:56:45,160 --> 01:56:47,400
Speaker 4: I would say Dan Hurley is to blame because Dan

2552
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:51,680
Speaker 4: Hurley is off the hook. Dan Hurley's ego, his personality,

2553
01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:54,000
Speaker 4: all of those things shows up each and every week.

2554
01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:56,680
Speaker 4: Yell net officials, yell net fans. He can't engage man,

2555
01:56:56,680 --> 01:56:58,880
Speaker 4: You're a two time champ. There's no need to engage

2556
01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:02,640
Speaker 4: in the fans love banted like everything, but keep it classy, Dan.

2557
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:04,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if he has that in him.

2558
01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:08,720
Speaker 5: All right, sweet Well, the Toronto Raptors guys coach Darko

2559
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 5: Radjakovic rips calvs Tristan Thompson for a disrespectful dunk.

2560
01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:17,280
Speaker 1: In his in his words and eyes. Who do you

2561
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 1: blame here? Bucky? He gets to go first with this.

2562
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean, you can't have your team pressing down

2563
01:57:23,680 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 4: thirty and not expect people to take advantage of the

2564
01:57:26,080 --> 01:57:29,200
Speaker 4: fast break opportunities. If you want everyone to just kind

2565
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:32,200
Speaker 4: of like run the clock out and sit back and

2566
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:34,600
Speaker 4: just play it out. But if your team is playing hard,

2567
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:36,800
Speaker 4: I can't blame Tristan Thompson for boom and one.

2568
01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Looke, his job is not to worry about

2569
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 2: your team. You need to coach your team. You can't

2570
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 2: coach the other team.

2571
01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:46,240
Speaker 3: Hey, coach, stay in your lane. You know why, because

2572
01:57:46,280 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 3: as long as it's gonna be highlights on TV. There's

2573
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:50,720
Speaker 3: gonna be great dunks and that's what the fans like,

2574
01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 3: So suck it up.

2575
01:57:54,280 --> 01:57:56,600
Speaker 1: All right? Well, well I got one more for you guys.

2576
01:57:56,880 --> 01:58:01,280
Speaker 5: Former Ohio State star tailback Maurice Clarett hell super freshman

2577
01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:06,000
Speaker 5: receiver Jeremiah Smith quote, don't be in a rush for

2578
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 5: the NFL. Why not if he's ready and many think

2579
01:58:09,480 --> 01:58:12,160
Speaker 5: he is ready to go, who's the blame here?

2580
01:58:12,240 --> 01:58:12,560
Speaker 7: Andy?

2581
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:16,160
Speaker 3: First of all, Maurice Klerett, you know you're giving him advice.

2582
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:18,800
Speaker 3: Everybody at Ohio State probably hates you for this advice,

2583
01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:22,400
Speaker 3: But honestly, he should go. He should go because you know,

2584
01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:24,800
Speaker 3: we see these players sitting out of Bowl games right

2585
01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:26,720
Speaker 3: now for fear of injury. You know, it's all about

2586
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:28,680
Speaker 3: big money, and there's real big money out there. So

2587
01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:31,400
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, if in fact, Jeremiah can make the

2588
01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:34,080
Speaker 3: big money either by transferring an NIL or go to

2589
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:39,600
Speaker 3: the NFL, go baby, go. Yeah.

2590
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:41,440
Speaker 2: No, I'm not with that, man.

2591
01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:44,040
Speaker 4: I think there's something to stand with the brand, like

2592
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 4: depending on like if all things that he equal, like,

2593
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:47,080
Speaker 4: why would he leave?

2594
01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:47,880
Speaker 2: Ohio State is.

2595
01:58:47,840 --> 01:58:50,120
Speaker 4: A great university, is a great program. He's the number

2596
01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:52,520
Speaker 4: one receiver in that program. They can continue to feed him.

2597
01:58:52,680 --> 01:58:54,600
Speaker 4: I don't understand why you bounce around and do all

2598
01:58:54,640 --> 01:58:55,880
Speaker 4: the other stuff regardless.

2599
01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 3: Of because money talks.

2600
01:58:57,000 --> 01:59:00,400
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, I mean I hear money talk, fucking, but

2601
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:02,960
Speaker 4: like there's only so many stuff that you can spend up,

2602
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:05,240
Speaker 4: you know, like at some point you want to settle

2603
01:59:05,240 --> 01:59:06,400
Speaker 4: in and be settled.

2604
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:08,400
Speaker 2: You can't just keep chasing being a mercenary.

2605
01:59:09,000 --> 01:59:12,000
Speaker 5: All right, Well, final one for the blame game. Tonight, guys,

2606
01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:16,680
Speaker 5: six former East Mississippi Community College football players who appeared

2607
01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 5: in the docuseries Last Chance You have sued the school, Netflix,

2608
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 5: the National Junior College Athletic Association, and the programs director

2609
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 5: over there at portrayals.

2610
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:30,360
Speaker 1: They are apparently.

2611
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:35,200
Speaker 5: Seeking thirty mili in damages after receiving no compensation for

2612
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:36,839
Speaker 5: their contribution to the project.

2613
01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:39,320
Speaker 1: Bucky, who do you blame?

2614
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:44,440
Speaker 2: I mean this a little later. I mean that Last

2615
01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:46,560
Speaker 2: Chance you. I mean that was eons ago.

2616
01:59:47,160 --> 01:59:50,360
Speaker 4: Like that said, Look, it's unfair that they didn't get

2617
01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:52,760
Speaker 4: any conversation. I don't think thirty million is gonna beat

2618
01:59:52,760 --> 01:59:55,640
Speaker 4: what it is. Look, I blame the producers and those

2619
01:59:55,640 --> 01:59:57,440
Speaker 4: people for not taking care of the people that they

2620
01:59:57,480 --> 01:59:59,880
Speaker 4: certainly made money off of. But those are the things

2621
01:59:59,880 --> 02:00:02,680
Speaker 4: that happen in documentaries. You never know how it's gonna pop.

2622
02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:04,640
Speaker 4: So look, I blame the producers.

2623
02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:08,120
Speaker 3: I blame those six idiots. You're gonna be on TV,

2624
02:00:08,440 --> 02:00:10,960
Speaker 3: you're gonna do a documentary, you're gonna take my time.

2625
02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:13,440
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Give me a contract and that's

2626
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:16,800
Speaker 3: what I want. Sign the contract, baby, that's it, all right,

2627
02:00:17,320 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 3: all right, stay with us,